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Christine O'Donnell Under Fire; Lady Gaga Fights Against Military Gay Ban

Aired September 20, 2010 - 20:00   ET

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RICK SANCHEZ, CNN ANCHOR: And we have got so much coming your way on this night, a lot of political news happening out there. We are going to be sharing it with you.

Here's what else is making the LIST.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

SANCHEZ (voice-over): It's prime time and here's what's making RICK'S LIST.

CHRISTINE O'DONNELL (R), DELAWARE SENATORIAL CANDIDATE: They call us wacky. They call us wing nuts.

SANCHEZ: Add witch to that list. But guess who called her that? She did. How's that playing in the GOP?

SANCHEZ: What's the truth, what Carla Bruni was quoted in saying in her book, or this?

CARLA BRUNI, FRENCH FIRST LADY: Of course Michelle Obama never said such a thing.

SANCHEZ: So, does Michelle Obama hate being first lady or not?

LADY GAGA, MUSICIAN: Defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic.

SANCHEZ: Gaga goes public with her politics.

A gator kill like no other that sends poachers to jail.

And who is on the list you don't want to be on tonight? Faking the power of the badge. I'm calling them out.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

SANCHEZ: Hello again, everybody. I'm Rick Sanchez. So glad that you're here with us.

We begin the show with more news about Christine O'Donnell and this. Which former commander in chief is now saying, no president, no president ever has been treated worse than President Obama? Who's saying that? But we are going to begin this political list with number five. The recession is over. It officially ended in June of last year. Did you know that? That is the official word from the National Bureau of Economic Research. And who is that, you ask, right?

Well, they're independent economists who have been making these measurements for all administrations, Republicans and Democrats, for decades. Their measurement indicates this recession was the worst since the 1940s. This should be good news for the administration, bad news for Republicans, who politically at least would prefer if the economic numbers kind of stayed down until November.

So, what's it really mean? Here's my colleague Ali Velshi with his economic take.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

ALI VELSHI, CNN CHIEF BUSINESS CORRESPONDENT: How do you account for that? That work is done by somebody. So you're increasing output, you're increasing sales, you're increasing economic activity, and yet you're not hiring the people --

(CROSSTALK)

LAKSHMAN ACHUTHAN, AUTHOR, "BEATING THE BUSINESS CYCLE": There's a whole -- each cycle is slightly different, but there are some general themes -- productivity gains, which --

VELSHI: Right. Which means we all work a little longer, we're all a little scared for our jobs. So when the boss says you work longer, you carry the BlackBerry around with you.

ACHUTHAN: Yes, the guy next to you or the lady next to you gets fired, and you work twice as hard. That's a productivity gain. That's what that is.

VELSHI: Right. Less money for more work.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

SANCHEZ: Two guys with no hair who think a lot talking economics.

We continue the political list with number four. So, what's the president have to say about the fact that we're officially out of a recession? Well, there's no surprise here. He says it was his policies that helped us not only get out of the recession. No, no, no. He goes a step further, folks. He's saying he helped America avoid a depression.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

QUESTION: I'm one of your middle-class Americans. And, quite frankly, I'm exhausted. I'm exhausted of defending you, defending your administration, defending the mantle of change that I voted for, and deeply disappointed with where we are right now. BARACK OBAMA, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: There are a whole host of things that we've put in place that do make your life better. But the bottom line is, if your 401(k) is still down substantially from where it was a while back, if you haven't seen a raise in a long time, if your home value went down...

QUESTION: Keep going.

(LAUGHTER)

OBAMA: ... depending on where you live, you know, all those things still make you feel like, "Gosh, I'm treading water."

(END VIDEO CLIP)

SANCHEZ: We continue the political list with number three.

So, what are Republicans saying? You are going to have to wait until Thursday to find out. That's when John Boehner and company will reveal their new platform containing about 20 items, we're told.

Speaking of the past, here's number two on our political list. It's former President Jimmy Carter. He's saying a lot these days. And perhaps no comment that he's made is more bold than this one. Asked by Larry king about President Obama's treatment in office, he says this.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP, "LARRY KING LIVE")

LARRY KING, HOST, "LARRY KING LIVE": What is your read on Obama?

JIMMY CARTER, FORMER PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: I think he's a good, solid, intelligent man who's suffering from perhaps the worst Washington environment of any president in history, and I would even include Abraham Lincoln as we led up to the war between the states.

No other president has ever faced such a polarized Congress, where he can hardly get one or two votes, you know, out of hundreds who are Republicans in the House and the Senate. So, he has had to overcome that. And I think he's had remarkable success in light of that handicap.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

SANCHEZ: You can catch all of Larry's interview with former President Carter. That's tonight right here right after RICK'S LIST.

All right, so what is the number-one political story in the news on this night? Did you catch this?

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CHRISTINE O'DONNELL (R), DELAWARE SENATORIAL CANDIDATE: How many of you didn't hang out with questionable folks in high school? But, no. (END VIDEO CLIP)

SANCHEZ: Beyond witchcraft -- what many of you don't know about candidate Christine O'Donnell that Karl Rove wants you to know about.

Also, the media loves reporting on the Mexican drug cartel. Ooh, scary stuff, they want you to think, right? Well, what happens when they get it wrong? Wait until you find out. I'm going to tell you what they got wrong right here on RICK'S LIST. Stay with us. More news. We don't tell you what to think. Less bloviating.

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SANCHEZ: Hey. Welcome back to your prime-time edition of the national conversation. This is RICK'S LIST. So glad you're there. We're back with the number-one story on our political list.

Tonight's top story is occupied by the bewitching Republican nominee for Senate in Delaware, Christine O'Donnell. That's right, bewitching. O'Donnell is well-known as a Catholic conservative who defends Christian values in ways that often have even shocked Christians, for example, coming up publicly against masturbation.

But it's the 1999 interview with Bill Maher on ABC's "Politically Incorrect" where she admits she once considered witchcraft. That has Christians and all other Americans shaking their collective heads.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP, "POLITICALLY INCORRECT")

O'DONNELL: I dabbled in witchcraft. I never joined a coven.

(CROSSTALK)

JAMIE KENNEDY, ACTOR: Wait a minute. You were a witch?

O'DONNELL: But I did -- I did...

BILL MAHER, HOST: Yes, she was a witch.

KENNEDY: You were a witch.

O'DONNELL: I didn't join a coven. I didn't join a coven. Let's get this straight.

(CROSSTALK)

KENNEDY: Wait a minute. I love this. You're a witch. You're going Halloween's bad.

"I was a witch." I mean, wait a minute.

O'DONNELL: Wait. But that's exactly why.

(LAUGHTER)

KENNEDY: How did you used to be a witch? O'DONNELL: Because I dabbled into witchcraft. I hung around people who were doing these things.

(END VIDEO CLIP) O'DONNELL: O'Donnell went on to describe a satanic altar with blood on it, her words.

What's Karl Rove have to say about this one? He says -- there's a quote -- it is direct -- "My view is that she can't simply ignore it. She's got to deal with it now and explain it and put it in its most sympathetic light."

So, here's what O'Donnell did.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

O'DONNELL: That witchcraft comment on "Bill Maher," I was in high school. How many of you didn't hang out with questionable folks in high school? But, no, there's been no witchcraft since.

If there was, Karl Rove would be a supporter now.

(LAUGHTER)

(END VIDEO CLIP)

SANCHEZ: Here's a list of what else she's now having to answer for: problems with the IRS on issues related to unpaid taxes.

She's never received a college degree until a month ago. She questioned the theory of evolution, telling CNN in 1996 there was just as much, if not more, evidence supporting creationism. And then there's the masturbation argument and the charge from critics that she was living off of money that was given to her that was supposed to be used for her campaign.

And that's not all. She's also got this tweet that she sent out earlier today. We have got it for you. To the Twitter board we go. And there it is. "I did comment that if I were a witch, Rove would be a supporter. I have turned him into a newt. I would have turned him into a newt, because Gingrich says we win."

There you go, the latest tweet from Christine O'Donnell.

Ahead, on our list of the most outlandish controversies in the country on this night, look at what police found in the back of a truck. You see those right there? Those are alligators. Now, let me tell you something about Florida. They don't take poaching lightly there. No matter how scared you are of gators, you're going to want to see that. Do you know who's joining me for this tonight? Jack Hanna will join me on the list to tackle this one.

Also, a husband accused of killing his wife uses the caffeine defense. He didn't mean to confess, he says. He just had too many soft drinks and too many caffeine and too many of those other things they sell at convenience stores these days that some health specialist say too many people are taking. I will take you through this one. Stay right there.

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SANCHEZ: Wow. Breaking news just now coming in to us. You are not going to believe this story that is coming to us out of Washington. Just got the information while we were in that commercial.

You remember Bethany Storro? Bethany Storro is the woman who threw acid on her face and ended up looking like this, then gave a news conference where she told everyone from the hospital that it was a terrible ordeal that she had gone through when this black woman came up and threw acid in her face, but she was willing now to forgive and forget all about the incident, and she would forgive the woman who attacked her, until police said, nobody attacked you. We have got witnesses, some homeless men who were in the area, who say you did this to yourself. There was no black woman.

This story has obviously affected, angered many people all over the country. And, tonight, there is a very significant update. We have just learned here at CNN and CNN can now confirm that prosecutors in Clark County are charging Bethany Storro. She is being charged with three counts.

Now, this is interesting because most people that we talk to in this case -- well, here she is talking now. You want to take that up a little bit while we're listening to her? All right. Let's just take -- well, then, you know what? Make sure you can't hear the sound or maybe put her on a box or something, Dee, so we're not both talking at the same time.

So, here's the news. They have charged her with three counts of theft. And a warrant has now been issued for her arrest. This is interesting, because most people, again, thought that she would be charged with filing a false police report, which could be classified as a misdemeanor.

Well, this is much more serious. These are three charges of theft -- three counts of theft and they have issued a warrant for her arrest, which I would presume is immediate. So obviously police in that area are taking that very seriously.

Now, let me explain to you why it is that police are charging her with theft. This is interesting. Police are saying they will charge her with theft for the following reasons. Yes. Let's come back to camera if we possibly can. It's starting to look like wallpaper. All right, here's the deal.

Police are charging her with theft because she was accepting donations from people to help deal with her injuries, et cetera, et cetera, injuries that she made on herself, as a matter of fact. Have you got that? Yes, bring that back over here, Craig. Let me read how this is coming across.

So again this is much more serious. Here's the actual report that's been filed by the police. I'm getting this just now, theft in second degree. And they go on to say that this exceeds -- which page should I look at? Seven. All righty. Page seven, detective's report.

Oh, this is interesting. They are also saying that she actually used drain cleaner. The acid that we had been talking about was drain cleaner. She poured drain cleaner on her own face. That's how she got the injuries. Then she went on television. She blamed it on an African-American woman. Then she said she would accept the American -- the African-American woman's apology, even though the African- American woman never did it. And then she accepted apparently -- according to this report, she accepted money for her injuries.

And in acceptance of that money, that's why police say that they are charging her with three counts of theft. There's some figures here, but I want to be careful about reading those. There are some -- Storro said she used some of the $3,000 she put into her account after her discharge from the hospital.

She said she spent about $1,500 of the money. She purchased dinners for her parents, a train ticket for her sister and stuff at Target -- quote -- "stuff at Target." So, apparently there was $3,000 that she raised from people who felt bad for her and had sent her money. Police say that that money was ill-got, and that's why they have charged her with three counts of theft, all that information just now coming in. Thank you for allowing me to take you through it.

Obviously, if we get any more information on that case -- a lot of folks have been following. It's really reverberated all over the country. We will bring you more information.

Meanwhile, other stories making our controversy list on this night. Can caffeine lead to a murder confession? The question is on the list of the biggest controversies making the news tonight.

And we begin with number four. Woody Smith of Kentucky faces life behind bars for the murder of his wife. Now, here's why. He is accused of strangling her with an extension cord at their home last year. His lawyers say, yes, he confessed, but the only reason he confessed is because he took too much stuff in it that had caffeine.

That's right. He was overcaffeinated. They saying soda, energy drinks, diet pills together left him so sleep-deprived that he talked to cops under a state of stress.

It's worth noting in this case, though, and I think important and you might find it interesting to note that Smith was worried that his wife was leaving him and taking their two children at the same time that he was caffeinated. Court records say the guy even asked his stepfather to put computer chips inside the kids as a way of tracking them.

Here now is number three. A freak accident on a baseball field when the Florida Marlins went up against the Chicago Cubs almost kills a player. All right. Take a look at this photo from Major League Baseball and FOX Sports. Watch it right there. Watch where the bat goes. It's on the top second with two men on base. Chicago Cubs' Welington Castillo cracks a line drive to left field so hard, his bat comes apart. Next, you can see -- well, you probably saw it before -- the teammate Tyler Colvin scoring a run. Colvin grabs his chest and bends over. And you can see him being helped off the field and over to the dugout.

This is a very bizarre play. Why is it a bizarre play? Well, because it's rare in baseball to have bats break up and then hit people this way, although there's controversies about the type of bat that's used. But they say that this injury actually could have punctured part of his chest, which could have led to some kind of horrible injury, even a fatality, as has happened in the past.

So that's the next controversy. Go up, prompter. Go ahead. Let's go to the next one, if we possibly can.

"El Diario" newspaper in Mexico decided to make an unprecedented move and publish an open letter asking the cartels to stop this killing. The reason, one of their own, Luis Carlos Santiago Orozco, he was shot at close range as he sat in a parked car outside of a mall in Juarez last week. He is the second journalist from the paper to be killed in the past two years.

Here's the only problem. Remember, I told you earlier that media oftentimes like to make a lot of big deals out of the cartels in Mexico? Well, the paper apparently got it wrong. A spokesman for the Chihuahua state attorney's office said today that Orozco didn't even die because of his work.

He said the shooting was a result of what they call now a personal problem, having nothing to do with the -- him being killed by the cartel.

So, what comes in at number one on the most controversial on this night? It involves poachers and a certain population in my home state of Florida that most people are afraid of. Yes, those are gators.

Ahead, Lady Gaga sheds the meat for a more traditional suit choice. There she is. And you ask, what is she wearing? Right? No. This is about what she has to say. She is coming out politically in public for the first time.

And we will be right back with your LIST.

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SANCHEZ: So the biggest controversy that is making news on this night comes from the Sunshine State. Sometimes, pictures just say it all. Take a look at that. Have you ever in your life seen anything like that? Those are 36 dead alligators, 36 dead alligators, laid out on the side of a road near Moore Haven, Florida.

Police officers pull over a pickup truck, right? Suddenly, they start noticing these guys have carcasses piled up on top of each other in the bed of the truck. And that's not all they found. Take a look at this. They also had some live gators, yes. Those are the baby gators. See those colors, those yellow streaks they get on them? That means they're little guys, right? Alive. We're told they're now back into the wild.

Police arrested these two men on charges of gator poaching. It is illegal to kill, hurt, or capture an American alligator. Only one of those gators was legally tagged. PETA's tweeting me tonight. They're upset about this as well.

Look. Let's Go to the Twitter board and see what they say. "Whether caught legally or poached, these alligators undoubtedly suffered tremendously," they say. And then they go on to go to their page, which I don't understand.

Come back to me. Now, here's what happens with these cases. And whether it's actually a bear in Montana or alligators in the Everglades, there are specific laws, federal laws, which relate to this, which is part of what is done in this country to keep people from doing this.

And Jack Hanna is joining us now to take us through this. He's director emeritus of the Columbus Zoo. And he's the host of "Jack Hanna's Into the Wild" TV show. Well, I don't even need to introduce this guy. Everybody knows who he is.

Jack, you see this story, and, look, people say, well, bears are killers and sharks are killers and alligators are killers, so why should people be punished who go out and kill these animals? What do you say to people who may think that?

JACK HANNA, DIRECTOR EMERITUS, COLUMBUS ZOO: Well, obviously, it's the wrong thing to do.

I had a little bear encounter here with a grizzly where I live in Montana part-time this summer. And I didn't want to go kill the bear. If, all of a sudden, we could all go out and kill these things, then we wouldn't have anything left.

But you must remember something. When I was a boy in the 19 -- late '50s, and early '60s, you couldn't see an alligator. They were almost totally extinct in the state of Florida, Louisiana, Georgia, down through that part of the country. Then they came back just incredible, thousands, tens of thousands of them.

And now, of course, the federal government has them listed as threatened and they have certain permits you can have for people that now can -- if they go out and have so many gators, they can now hunt them legally, like the deer season, whatever it might be, or they can be raising alligators, or they can have them private land management.

(CROSSTALK)

HANNA: You just can't go out and kill 36 alligators and put them in the back of your truck.

SANCHEZ: What should be the penalty for guys -- look, I know, whether it's -- and I know -- by the way, the folks who are most adamant about this are my friends who hunt.

The hunting community, whether it's ducks, you know, or deer or bears or gators or fish that you're not supposed to catch out of season, they're the ones who come down hardest on fellows like this. What should the laws be for someone who goes out and tries to take out animals like this in the wild?

HANNA: Well, I'm glad you said that because a lot of media will not say what you just said. And you said it just perfectly.

People who hunt, this is the worst -- good hunters are the best conservationists in the world. And what happens here, when you see this kind of stuff going, you wonder what in the world is going on. To me, what should be happening -- right now, there's no bond or no bail for these guys, which it should be.

You can't go here and take an animal that dates back until the beginning of time almost -- the alligator goes back to beyond the dinosaur era. You can't take creatures like this and go out there and just kill them by 36 or whatever it is, and you put 19 of them in a bag.

And of course now they sell them for the bones, the skin, the meat, the leather. I could go on and on and o. But that can all be done legally. And everybody has their permits. But you just can't go wiping out animals, like whether it be the gator, the grizzly, the wolf, whatever it is.

As you know, they are going to hunt the wolf again, by the way, up in Montana where I live. And someone said, my God, how could they ever do that? You know something? I couldn't hunt it.

But the point is that each state -- this is my opinion -- each state should be allowed an amount, the number the wolves. You know that a wolf has never killed anybody in history? However, if one of these wolves, which are becoming more habituated every year, kills a person or a child, I can tell you what will happen right now.

They will get rid of every wolf there is. And none of us will ever see a wolf again.

SANCHEZ: Wow.

(CROSSTALK)

HANNA: Same thing with the gators, you know?

SANCHEZ: Yes, I know.

Listen, I happen to be from South Florida, as you probably know. I know you're from Florida as well. And we treasure the fact that people come from all over the world to see the only place in the world where alligators and crocodiles cohabitate.

And that's down there in the very tip of the Florida Everglades. And it's important to the economy. It's important to the people who live there. It's important to the Seminole and the Miccosukee Indians. It's part of their culture. It's part of their culture.

HANNA: Exactly. And obviously, you know Florida very well from what you just said. And when my wife and I travel the world as you well know, and for me to go see the alligator of the wild, time and time again, we stop our cars. You won't believe this. We look at them saying, golly, look at this thing. Goes back to the dinosaur. Isn't this amazing?

Imagine if someone doesn't even know animals, what they think. It's very important to the state of Florida and Louisiana all the rest. We have to stand up our guns here and this raid is staging here for the state of Florida very well. We're not going to put up with it. There's going to be stiff fine and prison sentence. And that's it, to make an example.

SANCHEZ: Jack Hanna fired up. I like that about you. Thanks so much for taking the time and taking us through this.

Now, we're counting down some of the most interesting people who are making news on this night and at number four we got Paris Hilton.

She pled guilty today to two counts of related to drug bust. She could have gotten four years behind bars. So how much jail time did she actually get?

She got nothing. That's right, nothing. She did get one year probation. Hilton was arrested last month on a Vegas strip with cocaine in her purse and then she lied to police saying that it wasn't hers. As part of today's deal to drop a felony possession charge, here's a list that prosecutors gave Hilton: A, complete a substance abuse program. B, pay a $2,000 fine. C, 200 hours of community service. And D, of course, please, please, Paris Hilton, stay out of trouble.

Here's number three. Lady Gaga, the pop star, headlined a rally today at Portland, Maine today. She was there to preserve and pressure Maine's two moderate Republican senators, Olympia Snowe and Susan Collins, to join Democrats and repeal the military's "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy. It is her initiative. She's already getting support from some in Congress.

Today, Democratic senator from New York, Kirsten Gillibrand tweeted. "Just spoke with Lady Gaga. Thanked her for her advocacy. I asked her to keep pushing for "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" repeal. Join the fight."

Well, the Senate is expected to open debate tomorrow. Gaga is proposing, strange to say that, didn't it? Gaga is proposing a new policy. If you don't like it, go home. Lady Gaga, known for outrageous outfit, was dressed much more conservatively today. And maybe as I say that we should probably show you that picture.

Let's go back to that shot of Lady Gaga. She did make a reference to that raw meat dress that she wore at the MTV Awards saying equality is the prime rib of America. There you go. Here's number two. Sarah Shourd. The American who was released by Iran last week is pleading for the release of her two friends. All three were arrested last year after allegedly hiking over the Iranian border. Shourd said the whole thing was a misunderstanding.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

SARAH SHOURD, FREED AMERICAN HIKER: Shane and Josh do not deserve to be in prison one day longer than I was. We committed no crime. And we are not spies. We in no way intended any harm to the Iranian government or its people and believe a huge misunderstanding led to our detention and prolonged imprisonment.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

SANCHEZ: So what's Iran's president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, going to do with the other two? Larry King's going to ask him about that and a lot more right here on CNN. That's Wednesday night. All part of a King-side week of interviews. Kicking off tonight once again, let me let you know, Jimmy Carter, Barbara Walters, Ahmadinejad and then Jerry Seinfeld. Oh, and the cast of "Saturday Night Live" to boot. Stay right here for Larry.

Who comes in at number one on our "People" list tonight?

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CARLA BRUNI, FRENCH FIRST LADY: I do live in France. And France is a free country where anyone can, you know, fantasize and print it. So, of course, I could do something legal but first of all it gives a lot of publicity to all those books.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

SANCHEZ: The French first lady responds after accusations are made in an unauthorized book. Our very own Hala Gorani was the first to sit down and speak with her and you'll want to hear what else she has to say.

Also, an update on the Wisconsin district attorney caught sending disgusting text messages to an abuse victim that he was elected to protect. This is your list. We're going to be right back.

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SANCHEZ: Hey, welcome back. I'm Rick Sanchez. Let's get right to the most important person making news on this day. Here is number one.

France's first lady, Carla Bruni Sarkozy. She's no stranger to controversy. Most recently, she was at the center of a storm over comments that she reportedly made about U.S. First Lady Michelle Obama. Mrs. Obama was quoted in a new book as saying to Bruni that life in the White House was hell. Doesn't like her job.

Well, Bruni is back in the United States this week as part of a U.N. effort to fight poverty and AIDS. CNN international anchor Hala Gorani sat down with Bruni for an exclusive interview and she's good enough to join us now from New York.

And, you know, look, obviously, Americans who are fascinated by Carla Bruni are even more fascinated by the fact that Carla Bruni came out and said that the first lady hates being first lady and it's hell to be living in the White House as the first lady of the United States. So, did Carla Bruni say that or did she not say that?

HALA GORANI, CNN INTERNATIONAL: Well, I asked her that question. And you mentioned the media and worldwide fascination with Carla Bruni and it's important also to underline why she has reached that level of sort of -- of media interest and fascination around the world because for decades she was a supermodel. Then she became a pop star and, by the way, her music is not bad at all. I'm kind of a fan. And then she becomes the demure, third wife of the French president. And then, these tell-all books come out about her. One suggesting that she relayed a conversation which she had with Michelle Obama telling her life in the White House was hell. I asked her, is that true? This is how she answered.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

CARLA BRUNI, FRENCH FIRST LADY: Of course, Michelle Obama never said such a thing. I'm happy to tell you very frankly that this is not an authorized book. No one -- not only one book that came out about me was authorized. I never read the book. I never knew about the book but I do live in France and France is a free country where anyone can, you know, fantasize and print it. So, of course, I could do something legal. But first of all, it gives a lot of publicity to all those books. And second of all, it's not in my principle. You know, I'm a Democrat. I believe that everyone is allowed to say and write and say what they want. But I'm happy to disassociate myself --

GORANI: Disassociate?

BRUNI: Disassociate myself not only from that book, from all books and, of course, Mrs. Obama never said such a thing.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

SANCHEZ: Hmm. It does make you wonder though.

GORANI: You talked about meat -- yes.

SANCHEZ: You said, well, why would they make something like that up? You just -- and I don't know if you got a chance to ask her this. Did you have even a conversation that those guys may be privy to about the first lady, about your visit here? What did you say?

GORANI: That's actually a good question because she went into that off camera. She says, look, I had one conversation with these two journalists. They're quite famous journalists in France about the opening of the French government because it was a coalition government. They, indeed, in fact, have a socialist foreign minister who we hope to be speaking with this week. And she said that's just about it. And she doesn't understand how these two journalists based on that one conversation came up with this entire book and she said something even more interesting that in the future she is not going to be giving interviews to sort of print journalists because she doesn't trust how her words will be used and that she's more interested now in just speaking with television journalists because she knows that what she says will be broadcast exactly in the way she said it.

SANCHEZ: So this is not one of those cases where, you know, you say something then you wish you hadn't said it so you better deny it or you're going to be in a lot of trouble.

GORANI: Not according to her.

SANCHEZ: This looks like these guys--

GORANI: Yes. But the journalists absolutely stand by their story and their book. They say this is how we got our information, by speaking with Ms. Bruni Sarkozy. She granted interviews and this is the book out that came out of these interviews.

SANCHEZ: Wow.

GORANI: She says it's a lie. It's a lie. She used the word. So, you know, you have two versions of this story and she and her aides were telling me after the interview, this is a web of lies and of fabrication. And you heard her there say, look, I could take this to court but then I just basically be giving these guys a lot more publicity than I want.

But let me tell you, they're going to get publicity. She's going to get publicity. This is a huge departure for France. You remember Jacques Chirac and his wife, or (INAUDIBLE) and his wife. Here you have two young, one very attractive ex-supermodel, one much younger, brash French president. It's a new chapter for France and people are interested.

SANCHEZ: It sure is. Worldwide interest, by the way.

Hala, great job. I appreciate your sharing that great interview with us.

There's a guy I put on my list tonight who puts all of us in danger when he does what he does. You can probably say pulls a stunt is what he does. And then did you see that football player that just flashed across the screen there for just a moment? I want to tell you about that guy. This is a sad story and it's one that has a lot of folks in tears on this night. We'll be right back. Stay with us.

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SANCHEZ: I want to personally thank you for taking care of the shows today at 3:00 and 4:00.

BROOKE BALDWIN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: I did you proud.

SANCHEZ: You did a fantastic -- I'm reading these tweets. People love you.

BALDWIN: Oh.

SANCHEZ: Brooke Baldwin.

BALDWIN: Thank you.

SANCHEZ: Oh, it's nothing. What have you got? Tell us what people are talking about in America.

BALDWIN: Got a couple of stories. This one story is something we tackled earlier. It's a sad story out of Texas.

Reggie Garrett, he's a 17-year-old honor student, star quarterback in this tiny Texas town where, if you know anything about football, it is everything there. People have described him as humble, intelligent, mild-mannered. Reggie, his promising life ended just this past Friday night under the glare of the Friday night lights. In fact if you look in the spotlight, there he is.

It was the second quarter. He had just thrown his touchdown pass, second touchdown pass, mind you, of the night. He headed for the sidelines and collapsed and then died at the hospital. And I spoke with one of the nurses, the nurses, the doctors, they spent over an hour trying to revive him.

SANCHEZ: Oh.

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VOICE OF SUSAN COURTNEY, SUPERVISOR, BAPTIST HOSPITAL OF SOUTHWEST TEXAS: He was young and healthy and obviously had no physical or problems. And when, you know, we're yelling at him, come on, Reggie, fight, trying to get him, trying to save him and it was just a real tough scene. That's not something we see very often in our little E.R. His car the next morning was left in the parking lot. Someone -- a lot of the kids went out and put candles around it. There's flowers at the place where he fell. There's flowers on the fence.

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SANCHEZ: A lot of times they find out later on that these kids have like a heart murmur or something that was undiagnosed when --

BALDWIN: And they have no idea at the time. And the kid's playing football and he's practicing and, you know, the Texas heat.

SANCHEZ: Yes.

BALDWIN: And you just don't know. An autopsy is planned. We also found out that his memorial service scheduled for this Friday. Funeral is set for Saturday.

SANCHEZ: That's interesting. Well, you know, they test them. You know, when I played ball, everybody knows this but you have to take a physical. And when these kinds of stories started developing, they started checking for that heart murmur or whatever it is that --

BALDWIN: At the high school level?

SANCHEZ: Even at the high school level, yes. I mean, I don't know at this particular district.

BALDWIN: Right. Right.

SANCHEZ: I mentioned that because it's interesting as to whether or not the autopsy may find that.

BALDWIN: We'll find out. We'll find out.

Story number two, you like salmon?

SANCHEZ: I love salmon.

BALDWIN: I love some salmon. Good omega-3 fatty acids, right? Mr., I'm on a diet and watching my food.

SANCHEZ: Very good.

BALDWIN: Salmon, if you knew though your salmon that you're eating was genetically engineered, would you still eat it? Should you still eat it? Would it still be safe?

The FDA is holding these peer reviews right now considering all those questions. They're going to figure out whether their board should actually approve the eggs. A group is also looking at the environmental impact of production. I'm talking specifically about Atlantic salmon. The company behind this engineering, it's called Aqua Bounty Technologies, they say the salmon don't actually grow any larger than regular salmon but the deal is the fish actually matures twice in size as fast, so in half the time same size. The company also says that the hormone-injected fish is safe to eat and will help reduce the gap between supply and demand. A lot of people eating fish these days, but not everybody is sold.

Let's take a look at this tweet. This is from chef Rick Moonen. He's a big chef at the Mandalay Bay in Vegas. And he tweets, "Say no to genetically engineered salmon. Read my commentary on CNN."

So briefly, if you click on that link, his commentary just basically says, "This is just another way for big industry to make bigger, faster profits with no consideration for the impact it will have on our personal health and the health of our environment and ecosystem." The fate is TBD in the hands of the FDA.

SANCHEZ: Hmm.

BALDWIN: There you have it on the salmon.

SANCHEZ: And that according to most health experts is a problem.

BALDWIN: Hey, it might indeed be. Final note, Lindsay Lohan could be going back to jail. CNN has confirmed that a judge has revoked her probation and ordered her to appear in court this coming Friday. Keep in mind this follows her own admission she admitted via Twitter that she actually failed that drug test within the last couple of days. Take a look at what Lindsay Lohan is tweeting. Let me read you a series.

"Regrettably, I did, in fact, fail my most recent drug test and if I am asked I am prepared to appear before Judge Fox next week as a result." She goes on to say, "Substance abuse is a disease, which unfortunately does not go away overnight. I am working hard to overcome it and am taking positive steps forward every day. I am testing every single day and doing what I must do to prevent any mishaps in the future."

Final tweet. "This was certainly a setback for me but I am taking responsibility for my actions and I'm prepared to face the consequences."

We do have a quick picture of her leaving, guess what, an Alcoholics Anonymous meeting this weekend. Remember she was sentenced 90 days in jail and rehab. That was shortened both ways. We'll wait to see her fate this Friday.

SANCHEZ: Fascinating woman.

BALDWIN: People follow her story. They do.

SANCHEZ: Why?

BALDWIN: It's trending. They do.

SANCHEZ: Let me know when you find out why.

BALDWIN: We'll do.

SANCHEZ: Remember the prosecutor who sent sexually explicit text messages to a victim of domestic abuse during the case? I called him out last week on "The List U Don't Want 2 Be On." Well, tonight, another woman is coming forward with more scandalous accusations.

Ken Kratz is the district attorney in Wisconsin. There he is. He admits that he sent dozens of "sexts" to a woman while he prosecuted her boyfriend last year.

Well, today marks his first day on medical leave as he deals with his problems. Tonight, the state's governor reveals that another woman is now saying that Kratz invited her on a date to an autopsy. Yes, an autopsy. He allegedly told her that she needed to be his girlfriend and wear high heels and a skirt. To an autopsy. Kratz is now refusing to step down.

Stop smiling over there. I know it's weird. See this guy right here? All right. Let's show him if we possibly can.

All right. Yes. Yes. Is that Huckleberry Finn or not? BALDWIN: I don't know.

SANCHEZ: I don't know. Samuel Clemens, we need you right now. His upstream adventure makes "Fotos." And then a guy impersonating a federal agent pulls over a car. Wait until you hear who is inside. "The List U Don't Want 2 Be On," coming right back.

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SANCHEZ: Do you ever wonder whether a police officer pulling you over is really a police officer? This is a problem. Turns out objects in the mirror can be phonier than they appear. Time now for "The List U Don't Want 2 Be On."

This is Victor Alfaro-Marquez. He's a family man from Long Island who runs his own business. Police officers say he has an interesting hobby. He likes to impersonate police officers, specifically federal drug enforcement agents. I mean, he's even got the props.

Police officers find a badge, handcuffs, a pellet pistol and a hat and a shirt with the DEA logos on them. On top of all of that, he has flashing blue lights and a siren on top of the car.

How did they catch him? This is the part of the story that you're absolutely going to adore.

He pulls over somebody at 4:30 in the morning, right? It turns out that somebody, cop. Police officer in an unmarked car. So when the good cop tells the bad cop that he's a detective, the suspect just takes off running. Unfortunately, this isn't an isolated case of a wacko flashing a badge. According to police, in New York City, they arrest 100 people every year for impersonating a police officer. Sometimes hardened criminals. But the crime is apparently so common the department dedicates an entire group to just tracking these guys down.

Now, some of them target innocent people with sinister motives. Luckily, in this case, it seems this guy just liked dressing up.

Victor Alfaro-Marquez, he earns the top honors on "The List That U Don't Want 2 Be On."

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SANCHEZ: Welcome back. You're ready for this? You heard of couch surfing, right? This is ridiculous. Let's do "Fotos."

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Ah, dios mio.

SANCHEZ: Massachusetts is where we begin. This kid is on no couch potato. Check him out. Guy paddling his hand-carved wooden sofa down the Connecticut river. This weird woodsman even sported a Davy Crockett-style coonskin cap for this bizarre trip.

Big storms mean big waves and this kite surfer wasn't letting Hurricane Igor whip up without catching a ride. Great iReport from Jaymee Larrison in Bermuda. Check out that air. A category hurricane ripped through the island last night knocking out power to about 35,000 people. Good for him.

And finally, mascot madness. Ohio state's mascot "Brutus the Buckeye," he gets sacked by the Ohio University Bobcat as the players were taking the field on Saturday. That's right. I think they mean tackled. The buckeye's got even in the end winning the game 43-7. The Bobcat's coach summed it up this way. Obviously, we needed to tackle with the ball not the mascot.

That's "Fotos." And you can see it them for yourself on CNN.com/ricksanchez.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Ah, dios mio.

SANCHEZ: From dios mio to Larry King. Here we go. "LARRY KING LIVE."