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Country`s Top Couple Criticizes Bush; Dennis Quaid Reveals Struggles with Eating Disorder; Star Salaries Revealed; Ozzy Shares Thoughts on Hall of Fame Induction

Aired March 10, 2006 - 19:00   ET

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A.J. HAMMER, CO-HOST: I`m A.J. Hammer in New York.
BROOKE ANDERSON, CO-HOST: I`m Brooke Anderson in Hollywood. TV`s only live entertainment news show starts right now.

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HAMMER (voice-over): On SHOWBIZ TONIGHT, country stars who fear for the country. Tonight, two of music`s biggest stars blast President Bush and the Hurricane Katrina cleanup.

FAITH HILL, COUNTRY MUSIC SINGER: It`s a huge, huge problem. And it`s embarrassing.

HAMMER: Tonight, SHOWBIZ TONIGHT asks the tough question, has President Bush lost the country, if he`s lost the country music?

Plus, pom-poms and passion. Tonight, the inside story of the super competitive world of cheerleading, all caught on tape. The drama.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You never say -- you never say that.

HAMMER: The pressure.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I am freaking out.

HAMMER: The heartache, and the mother and daughter living through it all. Life in the interview you`ll see only on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT.

Also, they`re in the money. Tonight, the surprising salaries of the rich and famous. "Desperate Housewives`" Teri Hatcher, Angelina Jolie, Oscar winner Reese Witherspoon and many more. SHOWBIZ TONIGHT with the secrets of the paycheck.

DONALD TRUMP, REAL ESTATE MOGUL: Hi, I`m Donald Trump. If it happened today, it`s on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT. Enjoy it!

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HAMMER: Hello, and welcome to a Friday night. I am A.J. Hammer live in New York City.

ANDERSON: Hi there, I`m Brooke Anderson live in Hollywood. And tonight, as if President Bush doesn`t have enough critics breathing down his neck, A.J., guess who he has to deal with now? Two of the biggest and most beloved stars in country music.

HAMMER: Yes, that`s right, Brooke. Married country music stars. That is a serious one-two punch. We are, of course, talking about Tim McGraw and Faith Hill, who are absolutely furious about how the government is still handling the Hurricane Katrina mess, and we do mean furious. Listen for yourself.

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HILL: It is a huge, huge problem and it`s embarrassing.

HAMMER (voice-over): The hottest super couple in country music, Tim McGraw and Faith Hill, are not singing a happy tune about President Bush. The shocking words from an angry and emotional ABC News radio interview obtained by SHOWBIZ TONIGHT. The super couple blasted Hurricane Katrina cleanup efforts and McGraw aimed his fire squarely at the commander-in- chief.

TIM MCGRAW, COUNTRY MUSIC STAR: There`s no reason somebody can`t go down there who`s supposed to be the leader of the free world and step a foot in that town and say, "I`m not leaving here. And you`re held accountable. You`re held accountable. And you`re held accountable. This is what I`ve given you to do, and if it`s not done by the time I get back on my plane, then you`re fired and somebody else will be in your place."

To me, there`s a lot of politics being played and a lot of people trying to put people in bad positions in order to further their agendas.

HAMMER: But it doesn`t end there. Faith Hill was equally angry.

HILL: I fear for our country if we can`t handle our people during a natural disaster. And I can`t stand to see it. It doesn`t take a brain surgeon to figure out, you know, point A to point B. And that`s where, if they can`t even skip from point A to point B.

HAMMER: The subject of Katrina is near and dear to this couple`s heart. McGraw from Louisiana, and Hill is from Mississippi. Ironically, the very day they blasted the president, he was visiting both states to inspect the cleanup efforts.

GEORGE W. BUSH, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: I fully understand, I hope our country understands the pain and agony of the people of New Orleans, Louisiana, and the parishes surrounding New Orleans went through.

HAMMER: But with McGraw and Hill`s angry comments, President Bush faced stinging criticism from the biggest stars in country music, a genre whose fans tend to vote Republican. SHOWBIZ TONIGHT getting some context from CNN`s senior political correspondent, Bill Schneider.

BILL SCHNEIDER, CNN POLITICAL ANALYST: Country music is a red state culture and something that comes out of places like Louisiana and Mississippi where McGraw and Hill are from.

HAMMER: Country music has become a signifier in American politics. If you`re a country music fan, it signifies that you are populist, that you have conservative social values. A lot of these people vote Republican.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The president of the United States, President George W. Bush.

HAMMER: President Bush`s recent visit to the Grand Ole Opry in Nashville, the Mecca of country music, showed just how strongly he identifies with country fans. In fact, many of country`s biggest stars are Bush supporters, including Toby Keith, Darryl Worley and Brooks & Dunn.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I pledge allegiance to the flag...

HAMMER: And a lot of country fans don`t like Bush bashing, a lesson the Dixie Chicks learned the hard way. Back in 2003, that popular group criticized President Bush a few days before the Iraq war. The backlash was immediate and stinging.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I wouldn`t listen to them for nothing now, and I wouldn`t listen to a station that plays them.

MELINDA NEWMAN, "BILLBOARD" MAGAZINE: A number of radio stations, in fact, some radio station chains, pulled Dixie Chicks signals and there was a backlash amongst some radio stations.

But wait a minute. What`s changed between now and the time the Dixie Chicks suffered for their anti-Bush comments?

MILES O`BRIEN, CNN ANCHOR: The president`s poll numbers are very low.

HAMMER: In other words, attacking a popular wartime president is one thing. But when the same president`s approval rating drops to the 30 percent range, as has happened with President Bush, criticizing him becomes a lot safer.

SCHNEIDER: More recently in the polls, there`s more and more Americans across the country turning against this president. And if country music fans are turning against him, then it`s gotten very serious.

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HAMMER: Well, SHOWBIZ TONIGHT tried to contact the White House for a response, but they did not get back to us in time for our show tonight.

Meanwhile, we mentioned the Dixie Chicks. Well, they`ve announced that they are releasing a new studio album in May. Now, this is going to be the first one since they criticized the president back in 2003. We don`t yet know if it`s going to be political. But the first track is called "Not Ready to Make Nice."

Tonight, Dennis Quaid is revealing a shocking secret. He struggled with an eating disorder, anorexia. The 52-year-old actor tells "Best Life" (ph) magazine that after preparing for a role in the 1994 film Wyatt Earp he developed, quote, "manorexia."

Quaid said, "My arms were so skinny that I couldn`t pull myself out of a pool. I wasn`t bulimic, but I could understand what people go through with that. I`d look in the mirror and still three a 180-pound guy, even though I was 138 pounds."

Quaid said that after making the movie, for years he was obsessed what when he was eating, counting every signal calorie.

So how common is it for men to have anorexia? Live from New York, Lynn Grefe, CEO of the National Eating Disorders Association.

Lynn, welcome.

LYNN GREFE, CEO, NATIONAL EATING DISORDERS ASSOCIATION: Thank you.

ANDERSON: OK. Here is a man, Lynn, a big movie star in his 40s who says he suffered from anorexia or manorexia, as he calls it. I was surprised when I read this, but should we be surprised?

GREFE: No, we really shouldn`t be surprised. There are more and more men that are being identified as having anorexia or bulimia, and as he calls it manorexia. I get concerned about that title, because we`re having a hard enough time getting insurance coverage for anorexia right now. But there are many men and young boys are getting anorexia.

ANDERSON: Lynn, is there a common thread among anorexics, whether you`re a kid, a teenager, a 65-year-old woman, a man in his 40s, as Dennis was, a 20-year-old? Jamie-Lynn Sigler of "The Sopranos" said that she has struggled with an eating disorder in the past. Is there something common that triggers anorexia?

GREFE: Well, it`s a mental illness, and we find that people have a genetic vulnerability to this, and studies have shown that some children that develop anxiety disorder also then develop an eating disorder if they`re prone to this. So a common thread is that it`s a mental illness and it`s highly treatable. But it`s also very dangerous and potentially lethal.

ANDERSON: Do you ever really beat anorexia or do you just control it? Because Dennis even had said that presently he does a lot of exercising. He runs a lot. He can do 700 sit-ups at a time. He lifts weight. Do you just control it?

GREFE: Well, the recovery can be four to seven years if the case if really bad. But absolutely, it`s treatable, and people do recover from anorexia and bulimia. That`s why it`s so important. The sooner we get help to these people, the sooner they can get well.

ANDERSON: What can you say to people who are out there watching right now who are struggling with some form of eating disorder to encourage them, give them strength and encourage them to get help?

GREFE: Well, the first thing is to admit that they have a problem, that they have an illness and to get rid of the stigma. I mean, I`m really sorry that this terrific actor had an eating disorder. But once again, it shows that people can develop eating disorders. And they need to get the help. And it`s out there.

It`s harder for men, however. There are fewer treatment facilities that serve young men or men of all ages. So we have to work on that. We have to find facilities for everyone, because this is a serious illness. And we just want to steer people to help and get rid of the stigma and the shame. It`s an illness and it`s treatable.

ANDERSON: All right. Lynn Grefe, thank you for sharing your perspective with us. We appreciate it.

GREFE: Thank you.

ANDERSON: Lynn Grefe of the National Eating Disorders Association. And for more information on resources, for eating disorders, if you struggle from that, and you want help, you can check out that NEDA web site at NationalEatingDisorders.org.

Tonight Michael Jackson`s famous -- or perhaps we should say infamous Neverland Ranch is shut down because of labor violations. Employees at the ranch, which is in Santa Barbara, California, have been told to stop working. Jackson has been fined nearly $170,000, because his staff hasn`t been paid since December.

Now, the Neverland Ranch is part amusement park and part zoo. Jackson hasn`t lived there in awhile. He headed to Bahrain in the Middle East just after being acquitted of child molestation charges back in June.

That leads us to our SHOWBIZ TONIGHT question of the day. Neverland shut down. Do you feel sorry for Michael Jackson? Let us know what you think. Get on line to vote at ShowbizTonight.com. You can also e-mail us your thoughts at ShowbizTonight@CNN.com. We`ll share some of what you had to say later in the show.

ANDERSON: Coming up, Teri Hatcher, "Da Vinci Code" author Dan Brown, child star Dakota Fanning. Who makes the most? Star salaries revealed.

Plus, we`ve also got this...

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OZZY OSBOURNE, ROCK STAR: We`re saying that every penny we made of "The Osbournes," we ended up getting sued and we`ve lost everything.

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HAMMER: The prince of darkness loses his princely sum. The stunning story of what happened to Ozzy Osbourne after his hit reality show went off the air. You can see it only on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT.

ANDERSON: And two, four, six eight, we`ve got a story you`ll really appreciate. Tonight, the painstaking practice, the down and dirty drama, the no-holds barred competitiveness of cheerleading, caught on tape. The mother/daughter team living through it all, live in a bit.

HAMMER: First, tonight`s "`Entertainment Weekly` Great American Pop Culture Quiz." Which original "Love Boat" star went on to serve as a congressman? Was it Ted Lange, Bernie Kopell, Fred Grandy, or Gavin MacLeod? We`re coming right back with the answer.

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HAMMER: Once again, tonight`s "`Entertainment Weekly` Great American Pop Culture Quiz." We`re asking the question, which original "Love Boat" star went on to serve as a congressman? Was it Ted Lange, Bernie Kopell, Fred Grandy, or Gavin MacLeod? It was Gopher, Fred Grandy. He served four terms as a representative from Iowa. So the answer is C. And of course, that music, there`s no escaping it. The Jack Jones theme song from the show. Turn it up for a second? Feel free to sing along.

ANDERSON: Welcome back to SHOWBIZ TONIGHT. I`m Brooke Anderson in Hollywood, and you are watching TV`s only live entertainment news show.

Tonight, we are talking money. Secret star salaries revealed. SHOWBIZ TONIGHT knows what your favorite celebrities made in 2005. And we bet you are going to be pretty shocked at what we found out.

HAMMER: Fascinating. This is all part of "Parade" magazine`s annual "What People Earn" issue. The issue doesn`t come out until Sunday, but in your newspaper on Sunday, this is what you`re going to see. I`ve got it for you right here right now.

ANDERSON: That`s right, A.J. Let`s kick it off with Jennifer Aniston.

HAMMER: Why don`t you do it?

ANDERSON: $18.5 million last year. No surprise. She`s been a busy woman. She put out, what, two movies last year, "Derailed" and "Rumor Has It." She`s got a couple coming out this year, as well, "Friends with Money" and "The Breakup." So she`ll have a big salary in 2006, too.

HAMMER: And this has nothing to do with any settlement from the divorce.

Reese Witherspoon, $30 million last year. And this is before she won her best actress Oscar last Sunday. And she`s, you know, going to be earning that a picture after this.

ANDERSON: Can you believe that? OK, Angelina Jolie, $30 million. How does the woman have time between that humanitarian work, adopting kids, her new beau, Brad Pitt? What a multitasker.

HAMMER: And Dakota fanning, $15 million. She`s only 12 years old.

ANDERSON: She will have no problem paying for college.

And we will have more of your favorite stars, like "Desperate Housewives" star Teri Hatcher and Jon Stewart, and what they make, coming up a bit later in the show.

HAMMER: It is time now for a "SHOWBIZ Sitdown," however, with Ozzy Osbourne. And Ozzy is being inducted into the Rock `n` Roll Hall of Fame on Monday, along with his band Black Sabbath.

Ozzy dropped by our studio this afternoon. Guess what he revealed to me? He no longer has any of that money that he made from his hit MTV reality show, "The Osbournes."

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HAMMER: How`s Sharon? She`s not with you. The first time I`ve seen you without her.

OSBOURNE: No, we`re in New York, and she`s got my credit card. She`s shopping.

HAMMER: What is she buying right now?

OSBOURNE: Anything, anything.

HAMMER: How are the kids?

OSBOURNE: Great.

HAMMER: Because we`ve seen -- we`ve seen more so Jack showing up in the magazines. It looks like he`s got his act together and he`s doing OK.

OSBOURNE: Well, Jack, I`ve told him actually, he`s everything that I ever wanted to be. I mean, he`s just 20. He was -- he had a problem with drugs and alcohol. Went into rehab. He`s done a recovery program. He goes around schools and does things to other kids to give back. You know, he`s a really good kid.

HAMMER: And he`s staying with the program, it seems?

OSBOURNE: Absolutely. I mean, he was a really -- you know?

HAMMER: Well, look at you, Monday night you`re being inducted into the Rock `N` Roll Hall of Fame.

If I`ve done the math correctly, Ozzie, you`ve been eligible for about 11 years, because you have to have released something at least 25 years past.

OSBOURNE: Yes.

HAMMER: So Black Sabbath was eligible about 11 years ago. You`ve been passed over seven years.

OSBOURNE: Well, what happened, we`d get in, throw in the hat, and then nothing would happen. And after that, we were just, don`t worry about it. And I got kind of annoyed. And I sent him a letter, saying, you know, don`t get into that thing, you know you`re not going to do this. It caused a stir. What I realized, I don`t have the right to do that.

HAMMER: It`s the whole band.

OSBOURNE: It`s Black Sabbath. So I`ve changed a lot. I`ve mellowed out a lot. I should say, I`m not crazy. But I`m there with the boys, Metallica, and they`re inducting us. I just hope everyone has a great time.

HAMMER: So it`s a real selfless act on your part. You`re doing it for the guys.

OSBOURNE: and me.

HAMMER: You`re excited about it?

OSBOURNE: Sure.

HAMMER: Well, obviously, you`re known to the whole new generation of fans who`ve picked up on you through your wildly successful show at MTV, "The Osbournes." That`s behind you now, and the camera`s no longer following you around. Is life a lot easier without those cameras?

OSBOURNE: Well, I never watch the shows. It`s kind of like -- it`s kind of like a bar that you used to go in. You had some good nights, some bad nights. Some hilarious nights. And some -- I mean, having the camera crew in my house, there was always something going on, not on purpose.

HAMMER: Right.

OSBOURNE: But then you go back to the bar, and people have changed. And the whole thing has changed. And you stop going anymore. I`m saying that, every penny that we made of "The Osbournes," we ended up getting sued. And we lost everything.

HAMMER: What`s the deal? So you lost all of that money?

OSBOURNE: Yes.

HAMMER: Who came after you?

OSBOURNE: People are saying that they -- they wrote -- it was their idea that they got the opening called "the Osbournes", which was absolutely not true.

HAMMER: And why are you getting sued and not MTV, who produced the show?

OSBOURNE: You better talk to my lawyer.

HAMMER: Of course, the legal fees just run through the roof.

OSBOURNE: Certainly...

HAMMER: But it is behind you now?

OSBOURNE: There`s another one just popped up.

HAMMER: Are you running into financial difficulties? I mean...

OSBOURNE: I`m on the road in this world and the next.

HAMMER: You are. You`re doing Ozfest once again this summer. You`re doing ten dates on the show. Is that partially so you can make some cash?

OSBOURNE: No. No.

HAMMER: You`re doing OK. We want to know that you`re...

OSBOURNE: We`re doing OK.

HAMMER: Sharon`s got the credit card, remember?

OSBOURNE: Yes, but I`ve got the real black one.

HAMMER: That`s the important one.

OSBOURNE: I`m doing fine. It`s just apart -- I mean, I have to say that it was meant to be that way. I mean, we didn`t go out of our way to make people unhappy.

HAMMER: Do you have regrets?

OSBOURNE: No, no, no.

HAMMER: So even if you knew...

OSBOURNE: It`s a part my journey. I mean, it changed my world because I was Ozzy from Black Sabbath, Ozzy the madman, the head biting loon. So now I`m getting people saying you`re a great father. Where did that come from?

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HAMMER: I could actually understand everything he said. In addition to being inducted into the Rock `N` Roll Hall of Fame on Monday, Ozzy`s also going to be headlining Ozfest 2006, kicking off July 1 in San Francisco. The festival, now in its 11th year, will hit 21 cities.

ANDERSON: Reviews of Matthew McConaughey and Sarah Jessica Parker`s movie, "Failure to Launch," plus Tim Allen`s "The Shaggy Dog" and Salma Hayek and Colin Farrell`s "Ask the Dust" in the "SHOWBIZ Guide" next.

HAMMER: Also, Donald Trump one-on-one. We asked "The Apprentice" star if he`s still fighting with Martha Stewart and whether he`s actually going to run for president. Donald Trump in the interview you`ll see only on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT.

Plus, we`ve got this.

ANDERSON: You`re not imagining things, Bart, Homer, Marge, Maggie and Lisa have come to life. The Simpson family like you`ve never seen them before. That`s coming up. Stay with SHOWBIZ TONIGHT.

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HAMMER: It is time to see how you can get the biggest bang for your entertainment buck this weekend with the "SHOWBIZ Guide." Tonight in "People`s Picks and Pans," we`re talking about new movies from Matthew McConaughey with "Failure to Launch", Tim Allen "The Shaggy Dog" and Selma Hayek in "Ask the Dust".

And joining me here in New York, "People" magazine film critic, Leah Rozen.

Excellent to see you. Oscars behind us. Let`s see if we have any Oscar contenders this weekend.

LEAH ROZEN, CRITIC, "PEOPLE" MAGAZINE: Let`s just say, no, we don`t.

HAMMER: Right off the top, "Failure to Launch," obviously getting an awful lot of publicity with Matthew McConaughey and Sarah Jessica Parker. And a naked football great in this film.

ROZEN: If you ever wanted to see Terry Bradshaw naked as a jaybird, this is your chance. And may I say politely, gravity takes its toll, even on elite athletes.

"Failure to Launch", if you`re a sucker for romantic comedies, if you kind of like any romantic comedy, it is better than the ads and the trailers would make it. That is not to say it`s a masterpiece. It`s OK.

The premise is so contrived. Matthew McConaughey, 35 years old, still lives with his parents. They hire Sarah Jessica Parker to romance him and get him out of the house. Works for awhile and then it can`t overcome that contrived premise.

HAMMER: A perfectly likable film, however.

ROZEN: A likable film in a modest way.

HAMMER: OK. Let`s move on to "The Shaggy Dog." Tim Allen is back. Is this classic family fare or what?

ROZEN: This is a remake of a Fred McMurray movie that he Disney back in, I think, `59. Now they`ve updated it with Tim Allen, who`s a man who sort of turns into a dog. Cute.

It has a sort of complicated opening premise. My 6-year-old nephew turned to me and goes, "What`s happening?" At the beginning. But once they get past the set up, it`s a lot of fun. Tim Allen does everything, you know, but actually pick out fleas to get a laugh.

HAMMER: You don`t want to confuse the kids right off the bat, it would seem to me.

Let`s move on to "Ask the Dust", a film that`s really been off the radar. I haven`t seen it get a lot of attention. Selma Hayek and Colin Farrell. So a really nice cast.

ROZEN: Yes. And the question, with Selma Hayek and Colin Farrell in the same movie, is who`s more beautiful?

This one is written and directed by Robert Towne. Last time he did a period piece set in L.A. He wrote "Chinatown", one of the greatest movies ever. History isn`t repeating itself twice.

"Ask the Dust", you wish it well, but it is just one of those languorous, convoluted love stories that you just sort of want to yell to the screen, "Make love already and let the rest of us get out of here."

HAMMER: And I should point out, with an "R" rating.

Leah Rozen, thank you very much.

ROZEN: Sure.

HAMMER: And as always, for more "Picks and Pans," grab your copy of "People" magazine on newsstands now.

ANDERSON: Tonight, new controversy surrounding "The Da Vinci Code" movie. That`s next.

Plus, we`ve also got this.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We`re going for our third national championship in a row. If we`re not perfect, we don`t have a chance to win.

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HAMMER: To cheerleaders, winning is everything to them. Tonight, you`ll meet the mother and daughter team living through the daily drama of trying to be No. 1 in the country. And it`s all caught on tape. That`s next.

ANDERSON: Plus, the Donald dishes. I sit down with Donald Trump and talk about his feud with Martha Stewart, and I ask him, point blank, will he run for president? You won`t want to miss this interview. See it only on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT. That`s coming up next. Stay with us.

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HAMMER: Welcome back to SHOWBIZ TONIGHT. It`s 31 minutes past the hour as we get into the weekend. I`m A.J. Hammer in New York.

ANDERSON: And I`m Brooke Anderson in Hollywood. You`re watching TV`s only live entertainment news show.

A.J., Donald Trump stopped by the studio here last night. We talked about his feud with Martha Stewart, if they are on speaking terms now. And he also told me whether he plans to run for president. That`s coming up in just a few minutes.

HAMMER: I want to know. I want to know am I going to have to pull a lever for Donald or at least think about it.

Also, we`ve heard about how competitive cheerleading can be. But now, we`re going to get to see it on a new reality show. I have the stars of that show, the coach who is also a mom and a daughter who is a cheerleader, telling us all about it and just how cutthroat it all is in just a few minutes.

ANDERSON: It`s intense.

HAMMER: It is intense.

But first, we`re going to get to tonight`s hot headlines. The battle over "The Da Vinci Code." Catholic bishops are charging blasphemy over the movie version of the blockbuster novel. The Tom Hanks film doesn`t hit theaters for two more months, but there`s a Web site already up and running by the Conference of Catholic Bishops. They`re running to knock down author Dan Brown`s story. They`re especially outraged about the part that has Jesus and Mary Magdalene married with children.

Breaking family bonds. Get a load of this. Osama bin Laden`s niece will be the star of her own reality show. Saffah Dufour bin Laden made her mark posing in a spicy photo spread for "G.Q." magazine. Well, now, she`s shedding that notorious last name, that law degree too, and is going to star in a show about her quest for stardom.

A shocking admission tonight from former "Home Alone" star Macaulay Culkin. On an interview with Barbara Walters, he admits that he has had a less than perfect life, saying he is still estranged from his father and he admits that he used drugs.

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BARBARA WALTERS, ABC HOST: Do you do drugs? Do you smoke grass?

MACAULAY CULKIN, ACTOR: I have on occasion. It`s nothing that I make a habit out of or anything like that.

And I had to talk to a counselor. I had to pee in a cup to show them this is not a lifestyle it`s more out of character, really.

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HAMMER: Culkin also talks about his friendship with Michael Jackson in that interview, which will air tonight on "20/20."

And Michael Jackson is in trouble. California officials have ordered his Neverland Ranch shut down. The animals have been taken away. And this brought us to ask our SHOWBIZ TONIGHT question of the day. Neverland shut down. Do you feel sorry for Michael Jackson? Please keep voting at cnn.com/showbiztonight. You can also send us more of your thoughts at showbiztonight@cnn.com. Your emails on the way a bit later in the show.

ANDERSON: A.J., Donald Trump, a on one-man primetime soap. A billionaire mogul with two ex-wives, in a nasty public feud with another mogul and he`s going to be a father again. The "Apprentice" star stopped by our studios here in Hollywood for a revealing SHOWBIZ sit down. I asked him point blank, is he still fighting with Martha Stewart, is he planning to run for president and will he be changing diapers soon?

But we started by chatting about the ratings for the latest edition of "The Apprentice" which isn`t doing so well.

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DONALD TRUMP, REAL ESTATE AND TV CELEBRITY: I think one of the things is that a lot of people don`t really know yet that it`s on Monday because we switched over to Monday.

ANDERSON: A new night, yeah.

TRUMP: So we have a new night and despite that we`re doing very well. And "The Apprentice" has always sort of started a little bit slow at the beginning. And it just goes and builds and builds. As you know, for a lot of time, it`s been the number one show on television. So it`s been a great ratings success.

ANDERSON: And I have to ask the recent war of words with Martha Stewart. Do you still have correspondence with her? Are you guys in touch?

TRUMP: Well, not really. Look. Martha is a terrific woman. And frankly, I didn`t like being blamed for her failure. She failed with "The Apprentice." It didn`t work. It didn`t have what it needed to have like the original "Apprentice" has. And I just didn`t like having Mark Burnett and myself blamed for it.

ANDERSON: Is it safe to say .

TRUMP: Hey, you know, everybody wants to blame somebody, why not blame us?

ANDERSON: You guys were long-time friends, is safe to say now that people shouldn`t invite you to the same parties?

TRUMP: No. Not at all. I have a lot of respect for Martha. And I hope she does very well.

ANDERSON: All right.

Your kids are showing up on "The Apprentice" now. Ivanka in five episodes, in fact. How is she doing?

TRUMP: She`s doing great. She`s really a very smart person. She`s a beautiful girl. She was a top model. And now she went to the Wharton School of Finance and she graduated recently and it just came with me.

And she`s been terrific on "The Apprentice" and she`s gotten great critical reviews. People like the job she does. So it`s good.

And she`s on more and more. She gets on more and more. And she talks -- as we go along, I guess she`s gaining more and more confidence because she`s just going wild. And she`s having a good time doing it but she really is -- she`s done an amazing job.

ANDERSON: Well, please tell her I said congratulations.

TRUMP: Good. Thank you.

ANDERSON: And you`ve conquered the real estate business. You`ve done the TV thing. You`re a smashing success. What`s next? People think you might run for president?

TRUMP: That`s very nice. It`s very nice that you bring it up. You have to be the first to know.

I just had a great time, the fact is I really love the real estate business. That`s always going to be my first love. Interestingly, though, just in terms of your showbiz stuff, every network wants me to do something on their network. They want me to be on some kind of a show. But I`m having a lot of fun with "The Apprentice," and as long as it continues to do well in the ratings, it`s my loyalty.

ANDERSON: So, no political aspirations?

TRUMP: No, no I don`t. I see the world as not doing very well, but the answer is no, certainly not at this time.

ANDERSON: New baby coming up on the way very soon, your fifth child. How is Melania doing?

TRUMP: She`s doing great. She says hello, by the way.

ANDERSON: Ah. Please tell her I said hi.

TRUMP: She`s doing great and it`s about another three weeks and we look forward to it.

ANDERSON: Oh, wow. Diaper duty for you? Or do you have .

TRUMP: I don`t think so. You know what`s interesting, Melania really will handle that. And not because I want her to but it`s just her thing. She`ll be a great mother. She`ll do very beautifully and I probably won`t have to bother her very much.

ANDERSON: She is beautiful -- She seems to be beautiful inside and out.

TRUMP: That`s true.

ANDERSON: Congratulations to you on all of your successes.

TRUMP: Thank you.

ANDERSON: Donald Trump, I appreciate it.

TRUMP: A great honor.

ANDERSON: Great to see you again.

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ANDERSON: But will this baby be his last baby? Not so fast, Trump has said publicly he and Melania are going to try for more. Trump, of course, has four kids already, three with first wife Ivana and one with ex Marla Maples. This new baby due in several weeks will make Trump father of five.

HAMMER: I can`t believe you let him off so easy on the diaper duty thing. Shame on him.

Well, we can only guess how much money Donald Trump makes in a year, but if you`re wondering about the salaries of some of your favorite stars, we actually have the inside scoop for you. "Parade Magazine`s" annual "What People Earn" issue is going to come out on Sunday. It will be in the newspaper. But SHOWBIZ TONIGHT has the lowdown right now. We`re going to go through some of these celeb salaries.

Let`s start with the first one.

ANDERSON: What do you have?

HAMMER: Well, I got Teri Hatcher up first. Her career, a few years ago, before "Desperate Housewives," she said, it all but dead. Now making $1.25 million a year. Not bad.

ANDERSON: She has come a long way.

Jon Stewart, his guy makes more than Teri Hatcher made last year. $1.5 million. A.J., those jokes are not cheap, huh?

HAMMER: And a handful of years ago, we knew Jon Stewart`s name, we knew Terri Hatcher`s name, but we didn`t know Kelly Clarkson`s name.

ANDERSON: No, we didn`t.

HAMMER: Kelly Clarkson last year, $3 million.

ANDERSON: Well, that voice. Well done for Kelly.

Sean "Diddy" Combs. Get this, $36 million. This guy a true entrepreneur. He raps, he produces, he`s got his own reality show, has a restaurant chain, a clothing line, a fragrance. Really impressive here.

HAMMER: And before he had his own clothing line, I know he used to wear a lot of the Tommy Hilfiger clothing. Well, Tommy Hilfiger, the designer, $14.6 million. And you would think with his branding, with his name out there everywhere, it would actually be a bigger number than that, wouldn`t you?

ANDERSON: But I think that`s pretty darn good.

HAMMER: I don`t think anybody would complain about that.

ANDERSON: But you`re right. You`re right. And it just shows the huge disparity between what we regular folks make and what the celebrities make. It`s .

HAMMER: Teachers, too.

ANDERSON: . simply incredible.

All right. You can read more about what stars and every day non- celebrities make in "Parade Magazine" in your newspaper this Sunday.

HAMMER: Coming up, going to a high school event this weekend, if you think that cheerleaders have it easy, you are wrong.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Now we`re going for the third national championships in a row. If we`re not perfect, we don`t have a chance to win.

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HAMMER: Behind the smiles, a new reality TV series takes you inside the cutthroat world of competitive cheerleading. You`re not going to believe how far some children and parents are willing to go to reach the top.

ANDERSON: And millions of people are surfing the Web to catch the real live version of Bart Simpson and his crew. The amazing video you won`t believe -- next.

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HAMMER: Welcome back to SHOWBIZ TONIGHT. I`m A.J. Hammer in New York, and you are watching TV`s only live entertainment news show. Now, you might be shocked to learn that one of the most cutthroat sports out there is high school cheerleading. That`s right, cheerleading. In a new Lifetime series viewers will see just how competitive it gets and how demanding the parents of those cheerleaders become.

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HAMMER (voice-over): "Cheerleader Nation" is a new Lifetime series that promises to be one roller coaster ride of emotions between teenage girls and their mothers.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: She chose cheerleading because I chose cheerleading for her.

HAMMER: Dunbar High School in Lexington, Kentucky. It`s here the school`s cheerleading squad, with their parents alongside, go through their trying tryouts and their ultra-competitive competitions. Leading the hurdling heroines is Coach Donna Martin. She`s a tough-as-nails coach who doesn`t accept "I can`t" from any of her girls.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You`ve got to be serious.

HAMMER: And coach Donna is serious about something else -- winning what could be their third straight national championship.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: One, two.

HAMMER: Add one family connection to the mix, her daughter Ryan, and the tone can become downright critical.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Get focused.

HAMMER: Ryan has been cheering since the age of 3, and if you think mom isn`t one tough cookie, get a load of this exchange.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Oh, come on. I got all As and one B.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It`s all right.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It`s not all right. It`s fantastic. You should be praising me.

HAMMER: Add some melodrama involving boys and, well, more boys, and you`ve got one new TV series that may just be a teenage girls` dream come true.

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HAMMER: And joining us live tonight, Coach Donna Martin and her daughter, cheerleader Ryan Martin. I appreciate you both being here. It is tough. It is tough out there. A lot of really extreme demands being made on you. Your schedule gets very intense. You got a lot of pressure. Where`s it mostly the toughest? Is it the pressure you`re putting on yourselves?

RYAN MARTIN, CHEERLEADER: I think the girls, especially me, put a lot of pressure on ourselves. Not only do I have pressure from my mom, but I`m probably harder on myself than she is just to be perfect.

HAMMER: But it`s true a lot of pressure comes from the parents and you`re also the coach. And we`ve seen where the parents can get crazy competitive out there. The looks in their eyes. So some people who are watching this right now, Donna, who may see the show may say, what are you doing as a mother here? This is a little too hard. We`re only doing cheerleading. What do you say to that?

DONNA MARTIN, COACH: First of all, I think cheerleading has really changed. It`s probably one of the fastest growing activities out there right now, competitive cheerleading is, at least in Kentucky. As far as being too hard on her, I just expect a lot out of her in everything she does. Not only cheerleading, it`s tennis, it`s her academics. Whatever, I just want her to aim for the highest and be her best.

HAMMER: That`s all good. But we did see you guys going over the grades, all As and one B, and she says that`s not good enough, essentially. Do you feel your mom or some of the parents can be too demanding at times, the expectations be too high?

R. MARTIN: Maybe some expectations are too high but the reason why they`re hard on us is not only because they want it, but because we want it, too, know that we want it. Want to win, want to do good, want to succeed, so they`re pushing us and helping us do that.

HAMMER: But have you an even harder situation than most of the kids that you`re on the squad with because not only is your mom there for the practice, but she`s there because she`s the coach. Not everybody loves the coach. It`s usually the truth. So do you have to put up with hearing some of the things said about mom?

R. MARTIN: Actually, I have heard maybe a few. But most of the girls love her. They think she`s funny. I think sometimes, embarrassing. You`re embarrassing to me.

HAMMER: Do you ever bring stuff back to mom and say, hey, this is what they`re saying about you, these are the names they`re calling you?

R. MARTIN: No, the girls really don`t call her names. They really do love her and they think she`s a lot of fun and they`re like, if she wasn`t your mom, you`d think she was awesome. You know. It`s really funny.

HAMMER: So you`re tough on them, but there`s respect going on it sounds like?

D. MARTIN: Oh, yeah. I love them. I mean, we`re like a family. They know I love them. So when I`m hard on them, I`m also there to give them the hugs and all of that, too.

HAMMER: But you`ve been doing this since you were three years old, right? My guess is, when you were three, you didn`t say, mom, I want to be a cheerleader. My guess is they said, why don`t you give this a shot. You have been doing it ever since and I know you have other things in your life, but this has been the primary focus. Have you ever said to mom, hey, you know, I`d really like to try something else?

R. MARTIN: I don`t think I ever wanted to do anything else besides cheerleading. I remember going to practices when I was really young. The Dunbar practices. And I knew that I wanted to be involved in cheerleading in some way. So, it was not like I was forced to do it. I really do love it.

HAMMER: All right. Well, we`re looking forward to see how it all unfolds this season. I want to thank you both, Ryan and Donna Martin for joining us here on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT. And you can check out their new show making its debut shortly.

Well, tonight we`re asking our SHOWBIZ TONIGHT question of the day, Neverland shut down -- what are we doing? Tell me what we`re doing.

ANDERSON: OK!

HAMMER: Brooke, take it over to you.

ANDERSON: I will take it right here, A.J., we want to show you something now that you`ve got to see to believe. It is a live recreation of the opening of the "Simpsons." This is the hottest thing around on the Internet. Everyone is sending to each other. But to really appreciate it, this is what we`re going to do. We`re going to show you the animated opening of the "Simpsons," and then we`ll show you what it`s like if the Simpsons were real human beings and not cartoon characters.

So, hold on. Let`s first take a look at the Simpsons we know and love.

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HAMMER: OK, so that`s the real life version that we know. That`s the one we`ve been seeing all the years. But there`s a British television network that brought these characters to life. It`s hard to believe but they did this unbelievable job. It`s Sky TV and they used real actors to re-create the show`s famous opening. You got to see it to believe it. Check it out.

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HAMMER: That is absolutely unbelievable. I`ve been watching that show since it came on the air. I can`t even believe what they were able to pull off.

ANDERSON: That was on the mark, right?

HAMMER: Totally on the mark.

All right. We`ve been asking you to vote online tonight on our SHOWBIZ TONIGHT question of the day. Neverland shut down. Do you feel sorry for Michael Jackson? Not a lot of love for Michael tonight. The vote so far, you`re looking at it. Six percent of you say, yes, you do feel sorry for him, 94 percent of you say no, you do not.

We got an email from Laura in Hawaii, she writes - "Why should we feel bad for Michael Jackson? Would I feel bad if my employer was shut down for not paying me?"

We also heard from Jennifer in Maine who says, "I feel bad that he hasn`t figured out how to be an adult and to live a `normal` life like the rest of us."

If you want to keep voting, hop online at cnn.com/showbiztonight. We will be right back.

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ANDERSON: Welcome back to SHOWBIZ TONIGHT. It`s time for the "Entertainment Weekly" must list. Here are five things "E.W." says you have to check out this week.

First, see Bruce Willis in "16 Blocks" as he plays a New York City cop who battles with some inner demons, booze and some other problems. Next, "E.W." says to check out L.L. Cool J`s new song, "Control Myself" featuring J-Lo. It`s a thrilling dance floor hit that is sure to keep you shaking all night.

Then, pick up a copy of the groundbreaking book "Wild Seed" by Octavia E. Butler, who passed away last month. It`s a tale of slavery, sexism and power. "E.W." also says to check out the anniversary edition of "Lady and the Tramp" now on DVD. And finally, Dave Chappelle is back, but this time in his quirky new documentary "Block Party" that chronicles a free comedy- rock concert.

For more on the must list, pick up your copy of "Entertainment Weekly." It is on newsstands now.

HAMMER: And Brooke, earlier in the program, we were talking about star salaries that coming out in this, the "Parade Magazine" that is going to be in your newspaper on Sunday. A fascinating read, what do you think author Dan Brown, author of "The Da Vinci Code" earned back in 2005?

ANDERSON: I would say tens of millions. He`s got 25 million copies of that book in print worldwide.

HAMMER: Listen to this number, $76.5 million for Dan Brown. Of course, the movie of "The Da Vinci Code" will be coming out in May.

ANDERSON: Starring Tom Hanks.

HAMMER: Well, it`s time to see what`s coming up on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT on Monday. Here comes your SHOWBIZ marquee.

And on Monday, Paris is burning! It`s been a tough stretch for Paris Hilton. Blacklisted at the Oscars, she has been ordered around by a judge. We`re going to tell you why the party girl`s 15 minutes of fame may be going up in flames.

And is she naughty or is she nice? "Supernanny" Jo Frost lets loose when I talk to her about her latest crop of little rascals. Let`s see what miss prim and proper is really like behind those heavy glasses. That will all happen on Monday on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT.

And that is it for SHOWBIZ TONIGHT. Thank you so much for watching. Have a nice weekend. I`m A.J. Hammer in New York.

ANDERSON: And I`m Brooke Anderson in Hollywood. Please stay tuned for the latest from CNN Headline News. Have a nice weekend, everyone.

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