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Showbiz Tonight
Showbiz Weight Watch; McCartney-Mills Divorce; More Anna Nicole Smith Questions; James Bond Controversy
Aired November 06, 2006 - 23:00 ET
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BROOKE ANDERSON, CNN CO-HOST: Is there a truce in the nasty, ugly Paul McCartney-Heather Mills divorce?
I`m Brooke Anderson in New York.
SIBILA VARGAS, CNN CO-HOST: And the shocking, eerie prediction of Keith Urban entering rehab from the country star, himself.
I`m Sibila Vargas in Hollywood. TV`s most provocative entertainment news show starts right now.
ANDERSON: On SHOWBIZ TONIGHT, two huge "Showbiz Weight Watch" stories.
First, tonight, a star`s stunning weight loss and she is taking her clothes off to show it off.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You go, girl!
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ANDERSON: But is Kirstie Alley shedding the pounds sending the right message? The amazing story about Kirstie Alley did it.
Plus the scary, skinny controversy on the runway. Who really is to blame for deciding curvy is kaput and dangerously thin models is in?
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It`s really Hollywood that is killing supermodels.
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ANDERSON: SHOWBIZ TONIGHT investigates whatever happened to the sultry supermodel?
More startling, Anna Nicole Smith questions. Could her son Daniel actually have been murdered? Will she ever get a paternity test to prove who is the father of her daughter? And will Anna Nicole ever come back to the United States?
Tonight, the SHOWBIZ TONIGHT truth squad is on the case.
VARGAS: Hello, everybody, I`m Sibila Vargas in Hollywood.
ANDERSON: Hi there, everyone. I`m Brooke Anderson in New York. A.J. Hammer has the night off.
And you are not going to believe your eyes. Wait until you get a load of Kirstie Alley, the once fat actress is fat no more. We are on the "Showbiz Weight Watch" tonight because today, Kirstie slipped on a bikini, went on "Oprah," and showed the world what she is made of now.
VARGAS: It really has been an incredible year for Kirstie, who not only revealed her new body today, but also revealed how she did it.
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OPRAH WINFREY, HOST, "OPRAH": Come on out!
VARGAS (voice-over): From fat actress to fab actress. With the song "Brick House" blasting, Kirstie Alley strutted on to the Oprah Winfrey stage to show off the brand new bod she earned after dramatic weight loss. It`s a culmination of a promise she made last year on the show.
KIRSTIE ALLEY, ACTRESS: Maybe before summer I do a Jenny Craig bikini commercial.
VARGAS: But before the Jenny Craig spokeswoman showed off her svelte new frame in a new commercial, she wanted to bear all on "Oprah."
Yes, the woman who just last year poked fun at her Hollywood weight issues in the show "Fat Actress," and whose ballooning weight has been a hot tabloid topic for years now, was looking pretty hot on "Oprah."
SUSAN POCHARSKI, "LIFE" MAGAZINE: She lost 75 pounds. She went from 220 to about 145 pounds.
VARGAS: SHOWBIZ TONIGHT brings you the latest on Kirstie Alley`s staggering weight loss. What made her do it and the inspirational message for women everywhere that she shared on the Oprah Winfrey show.
ALLEY: I think women -- we are -- I don`t think we ever feel like we`re good enough. We don`t feel like we`re thin enough or pretty enough or smart enough or work hard enough. And we are good enough.
America`s fat. We`re fat.
VARGAS: Kirstie Alley`s battle with weight was a far cry from her time as a young Hollywood newcomer in the 80s. She went from Emmy award winning actress on the sitcom "Cheers"...
ALLEY: You know, I would rather see you eaten alive by carpenter ants.
VARGAS: ... to a too large to handle tabloid headline. "Life" magazine talked to Kirstie about her struggle with weight. Articles Editor Susan Pocharski tells SHOWBIZ TONIGHT you`re not going to believe what Kirstie was eating at the time.
POCHARSKI: Instead of one piece of French bread, she`d eat a half a loaf, steak, burritos -- I mean, it was pretty wild.
VARGAS: All told, at her peak, Kirstie says she was putting away up to 8,000 calories a day, four times the norm for an average-size woman. The tabloids were all over her. And, ironically, Kirstie tells the "Oprah Winfrey Show" it was the tabloids that made her straighten up.
ALLEY: I didn`t know how fat I was. Thanks to the tabloids I went, damn, girl, you`re fat.
POCHARSKI: Not only did she stop eating tons and tons of food, but she also learned how to eat right, and basically she learned about portion control, which the key to her amazing waiting loss.
VARGAS: Kirstie`s gig as a spokesperson for Jenny Craig weight loss program no doubt was a big part of her desire to slim down. And in the nation where 60 million Americans are obese, Alley tells Oprah that her life change is something that everyone can emulate.
ALLEY: We can make a decision any step of the way and we can decide to change anything at any age, you know. And what I hope for all women is that they just, they feel good about themselves.
POCHARSKI: A lot of Americans struggle with weight problems, and here they have a heroine out there who has struggled severely and now has gotten it under control. And that`s an inspiration to a lot of people.
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VARGAS (on camera): And we`ve got much more tonight on the "Showbiz Weight Watch."
Lindsay Lohan, who has often been criticized for being too skinny, speaks out. Her emotional reaction to a new film about what goes on at an eating disorder clinic. That`s at 39 past the hour.
ANDERSON: OK, but here`s what we`re wondering, when celebrities lose so much weight, is it inspirational or irresponsible, creating false expectations for those of us trying to shed a few pounds?
Here in New York tonight is Dr. Ian Smith from VH1 "Celebrity Fit Club," and author of "The Fat Smash Diet."
And in San Francisco, Liz Perle from "Common Sense Media," a group that keeps an eye on the media for kids and families.
Welcome to you both. Thanks for being here.
DR. IAN SMITH, "CELEBRITY FIT CLUB": Good to be here.
LIZ PERLE, "COMMON SENSE MEDIA": It`s good to be here.
ANDERSON: All right, Dr. Ian, I`m going to begin with you. When we see the celebrities on "Celebrity Fit Club," many of them get positive, real results. And it`s fantastic. But these are people who have nutritionists, trainers, people motivating them, shouting at them, telling them put that candy down. Do you think in a way it sets unrealistic expectation?
SMITH: Well, I think celebrities, in general, when they go on these weight loss campaigns can set unrealistic expectations for the average person because there is a lot of extra assistance that these celebrities get.
But the idea on our show in particular and with my diet, the idea is we try to train them in the proper lifestyle behaviors that are necessary to make these changes to live regular.
Someone like Kirstie Alley, who is doing, obviously, a campaign in which she is being paid to lose weight, the unfortunate part of that is -- I`m happy she has lost the weight, I`m unhappy that we don`t see how she really did it. All we see is every few weeks her showing up saying I lost another 10 pounds, another 15 pounds. Great advertising for the company, but tell us what you did to get there. Did you have --
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ANDERSON: All that you did.
SMITH: Right, give us everything. I think that`s unfair.
ANDERSON: Yes, Liz, what do you think? When we see celebrities on "Celebrity Fit Club" -- and it`s not just Kirstie Alley going on "Oprah," but do you think that the outcome is -- that same outcome could be improbable for a lot of us when we don`t have the same resources?
PERLE: Oh, absolutely. And what we try and do is explain to families that what you see on the television set is not necessarily what exists. I mean, I know that if I had her cast of PR people and trainers in my kitchen when I woke up in the morning, I could look like that, too. But most kids who are in the middle of forming expectations look to celebrities to give them a sense of what`s possible and what`s dreamable, and this is not realistic.
ANDERSON: And there are a lot of celebrities endorsing weight loss products. It`s not just Kirstie Alley with Jenny Craig.
PERLE: You bet.
ANDERSON: You`ve got Anna Nicole did Trimspa. Also Sarah Ferguson with Weight Watchers. And you talked about this a little bit a minute ago, Dr. Ian, they are getting paid to lose weight. The whole world is watching them. They have a lot of pressure on them. The average person doesn`t have that same motivation, to say the least.
SMITH: No, not at all. And not only do the celebrities have the motivation, but the companies have the motivation because they have now invested in a celebrity weight loss in order to reap the benefits.
Listen, I`d like to see celebrities lose weight the right way, the healthy way, to exercise and eating right, and not advertise, and then show up on "Oprah" and say, I lost X number of pounds by doing it in a healthy manner. Why do you have to go the supporting of Trimspa or Jenny Craig or any program...
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ANDERSON: So full disclosure?
SMITH: Yes, do full disclosure. Let`s do it without the endorsements. Let`s just do it because it is important for your health.
ANDERSON: And you know, it`s not just about the weight loss programs. It`s also about the gastric bypass, the gastric band surgery. I`m talking Sharon Osbourne, Al Roker, Carnie Wilson.
Liz, does that put the notion out there that, hey, it`s a quick and easy fix, but are we forgetting it`s dangerous, too?
PERLE: Well, you know, good on Sharon Osbourne for at least coming clean and saying she was vomiting all the time from it because she couldn`t keep the diet that was necessary to do it.
I mean, these quick and easy fixes are part of this whole celebrity package that is easily conveyed in a one-minute commercial or a five-second spot, and this is really not realistic. It is a lifestyle change, and it`s about eating healthy for life.
But all through the media you see images of food, fast food, candy, this, that and the other thing, and it really -- we get so many mixed messages from the media about how to eat and how to be beautiful that it`s a wonder that people know what to do at all.
ANDERSON: I know, and very confusing at times.
And Dr. Ian, very quickly, we have about 30 seconds left. But Sharon Osbourne getting the band taken off, saying, hey, I like food, I want to eat. So is it more about portion control and not artificial means?
SMITH: Yes, well, I think one of the problems is, while these surgeries will be beneficial for a very small percentage of people, the problems that the media over-exaggerates its benefits and they hide the dark side of this. I mean, there are downsides which, thankfully Sharon Osbourne was going to talk about. But I think the important issue is this, that you have to realize that the best way for most people, not everyone, is to do the dieting and exercise and making the lifestyle changes.
Surgery still is not the answer. Carnie Wilson was on our show on VH1 "Celebrity Fit Club," and that`s because she had not cured her problems, which discipline, learning how to eat portion control and exercise, and so...
ANDERSON: Do it the right way.
SMITH: Right.
ANDERSON: And that`s why we at SHOWBIZ TONIGHT don`t want to hide anything. We want to talk all about it.
Dr. Ian Smith and Liz Perle, thank you both so much for being here and for your insight.
And Dr. Ian Smith`s book is "The Fat Smash Diet," by the way.
VARGAS: Now, we want to hear from you. It`s our SHOWBIZ TONIGHT "question of the day." Stars promoting weight loss: Do they create unrealistic expectations? Easy for me to say. Vote at cnn.com/showbiztonight, send us e-mail at showbiztonight@cnn.com.
ANDERSON: New startling Anna Nicole Smith questions. Could her son Daniel actually have been murdered? Will she ever get a paternity test to prove who`s the father of her daughter? The SHOWBIZ TONIGHT truth squad is on the case, next.
VARGAS: And could it be a possible truce in the ugly nasty divorce duel between Paul McCartney and Heather Mills?
Plus, we`ve also got this.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We grew up with those girls. They started as young girls and they developed in front of our eyes and became these huge personalities.
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ANDERSON: The scary skinny controversy on the runway. Who really is to blame for deciding dangerously thin models are in? More "Showbiz Weight Watch." What ever happened to the sultry supermodels?
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ANDERSON: Welcome back to SHOWBIZ TONIGHT, TV`s most provocative entertainment news show. I`m Brooke Anderson in New York.
Time now for a story that made us say...
UNIDENTIFIED MALES: That`s ridiculous!
ANDERSON: Whoa, that was the best one yet. Thanks, guys.
OK, watch out when you board a bus because there might be a baby bandit on the loose. A police officer in India was shocked to learn that one of the suspects he`s investigating in a bus robbery is a 3-month-old boy. Yes, apparently the bus driver has a personal grudge with the baby`s dad and reported him as taking part in the crime of stealing all of his spare money. Needless to say, the boy is no longer a suspect. The little baby bus robber? That`s ridiculous!
VARGAS: OK, so this Paul McCartney-Heather Mills divorce has been super nasty, ugly back and forth finger pointing. Well, tonight SHOWBIZ TONIGHT can tell you, it looks like Paul might be calling for a truce.
In an interview with BBC radio, the ex-Beetles star says he doesn`t hold a grudge against his estranged wife and would rather keep the details private.
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PAUL MCCARTNEY, DIVORCING HEATHER MILLS: I think when you are going through difficulties, I think the thing to do for the sake of all the people concerned is to keep a certain dignity and remember that it is a private affair and that that way you will probably get through it better. Life does go on. I don`t hold grudges against anyone. I don`t blame anyone for the sadnesses that have happened to me.
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ANDERSON: Tonight, breaking news in the mystery surrounding the death of Anna Nicole Smith`s son, Daniel.
Plus, more from SHOWBIZ TONIGHT, exclusive interviews with two key players in the whole saga, the pathologist hired by Anna Nicole to look into her son`s tragic death, and the attorney representing one of the men who claims he is the father of Anna Nicole`s baby.
The SHOWBIZ TONIGHT truth squad gets to work right now. And with us tonight in New York is "Court TV" Correspondent Michael Bryant.
Hi Michael.
MICHAEL BRYANT, "COURT TV" CORRESPONDENT: Hey, how are you doing?
ANDERSON: I`m doing well.
OK, we all know the story. Anna Nicole has a baby. Three days later, her son tragically dies in her hospital room. Now, the preliminary autopsy found that a combination of methadone and two antidepressants caused his death.
But, Michael, you found some startling new information about how much methadone was in his body. What did you discover?
BRYANT: Yes, it`s interesting that all of the public talk about methadone, methadone, methadone, has never really talked about how much methadone, because I think people were shocked in the first place to find methadone.
Well, I`ve learned today that the amount of methadone -- regardless of the other six drugs found in Daniel Smith`s body at the time he was pronounced dead, this drug was more than six or seven times the lethal dose of methadone. It was a massive dose. And what I`m hearing is if he had been squeaky clean otherwise, this drug would have killed him.
ANDERSON: Alone. That is just incredible. And this is going to fuel the conspiracy theories. As you know, Anna Nicole`s estranged mother has said she thinks Daniel was murdered.
Michael, Dr. Cyril Wecht, he`s the independent pathologist who investigated Daniel`s death, we asked him about the theory of murder in an exclusive interview. Let`s listen to what he said about that.
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CYRIL WECHT, FORENSIC PATHOLOGIST: There is no basis for murder. There are two people there. And that is -- are his mother and Howard Stern. If somebody wants to accuse his mother of having murdered him or having participated, even passively in the plot to kill her own son, then let them so state that, including the grandmother of Daniel.
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ANDERSON: You know, Dr. Wecht sounds very definitive there. But based on the information you have, there could be some doubts, or do you think in any way it could lead to a murder investigation?
BRYANT: Well, you know, anything is possible. I think all we know for sure, when we start talking about these drugs, the amounts of drugs and the possible cause of death and the likely cause of death -- and by cause, I mean legal cause, not medical cause. I think we have gone over that plenty of times.
But people have got to think, you know, it is either suicide or homicide. It is one of the cide`s, you know, it`s not an accident.
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ANDERSON: And do you`ve reported the investigation could focus on Anna Nicole Smith and Howard K. Stern, is that right?
BRYANT: Well, from what I`m understanding now, is the investigation has focused now, because of the finding of all this methadone, it has focused on Anna Nicole Smith and Howard K. Stern because they were in the hospital room when he died.
Remember, this drug is a quick acting drug. It creates kind of a sleepy high, experts have told me. And it peaks within about an hour of taking it, whether you take the liquid form or the tablet form, which is about the only two forms it`s available in.
ANDERSON: A very dangerous drug.
BRYANT: And if that`s true, that means he took the drug sometime the morning he died. Remember, he died give or take about 9:00 in the morning. So, who are you going to focus on? The folks in the room at the time.
ANDERSON: Right. Let`s get on to the other big part of this story very quickly, the paternity test. Howard K. Stern and Larry Birkhead both say they are the father. Anna Nicole won`t submit the baby to a paternity test. Birkhead`s lawyer, Debra Opri, told us in an exclusive interview, that`s going to change. Let`s listen to that.
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DEBRA OPRI, ATTORNEY FOR LARRY BIRKHEAD: We had the right to question her, and she said I`m not coming. She flagrantly said I have no respect for the law. She`s now flagrantly saying I have no respect for California jurisdiction. Come here.
I`m not going to do it. She`s going to come back to California because that`s where the child was conceived. That`s where she still resides. She still has a home. And that`s where my client resides. That baby will be found to be under the jurisdiction of California and I am firmly confident about that.
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ANDERSON: What do you think, Michael, very quickly?
BRYANT: Well, you know, the civil courts are full of victories that are hollow. This is a civil matter. Are they going to send some Gestapo over to the Bahamas to get Anna Nicole to comply with a court order? It`s not likely. You`d have to go over there and get the order imposed by a Bahamian court. I don`t know, maybe dog the bounty hunter is available. He can go over and help out. This is a civil matter. We`re not going to send cops over to get somebody to bring them back to this country to submit to this test.
ANDERSON: It is an outrageous unbelievable story. And our deepest sympathies to the family, no matter what happened. "Court TV`s" Michael Bryant, thanks, as always for your insight. We appreciate it.
Another burning question on a much lighter note, though. How is the new James Bond film starring a controversial new 007 Daniel Craig? I had the chance to chat with the blonde Brit just days before "Casino Royale" hit theaters.
After he was picked to replace Pierce Brosnan last year, a band of Bond fans called for a boycott. They said he couldn`t drive a stick shift car, couldn`t handle guns, and even dissed the color of his hair -- jeez. But Craig says, yes, he got through it.
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DANIEL CRAIG, ACTOR: The opinions go flying around and people have lots of -- you know, and that`s absolutely what it`s about. My only sort of defense of that -- and I certainly wouldn`t get -- I know, I would never want to get into a stand-up argument with people about the rights or wrongs of it -- was that I feel just as passionately about it. So, all I could do is just concentrate on what I was doing and just get it right and do the best job I could. And that`s -- and that`s my work.
ANDERSON: How hard was it not to let that distract you?
CRAIG: Well, it wasn`t hard. I had a couple of days, I suppose, letting it get to me a bit, and then I just felt, get on with it.
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ANDERSON: "Casino Royale," Sibila, hits theaters November 17th, coming up.
VARGAS: I can`t wait to see it. And Brooke, I did get your e-mail saying that he was dreamy in person.
ANDERSON: He was. Those beautiful blue eyes. He has such a presence. And you know, I did get to see the movie. It`s grittier and darker than the Bonds that we have seen before. It`s a more raw approach to Bond. But Daniel Craig stepped right in. He seems comfortable.
VARGAS: Fills the shoes?
ANDERSON: And he`s captivating -- yes, he fills the shoes, big shoes to fill, but he is very convincing. And listen to this, Sibila, even the sometimes prickly British press is raving about the movie, the "Daily Telegraph" says, "It`s a terrific debut. From the very start, he steps with full assuredness into Sean Connery`s old handmade shoes." At times "his main asset quickly becomes evident: he can act!"
VARGAS: Well, coming up on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT, Lindsay Lohan, who has been criticized for being too skinny, is speaking about a controversial documentary that goes inside eating disorder clinics. That`s coming up.
ANDERSON: Also Borat has a -- I`m going to try this -- very nice opening weekend. But not everybody is happy about it. SHOWBIZ TONIGHT is the only entertainment news show to head to Kazakhstan to separate movie films fact from fiction.
Plus we`ve got this.
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KEVIN FEDERLINE, HUSBAND OF BRITNEY SPEARS: It`s crazy. It`s something that I can`t explain because a lot of people look at her and they`re fans. You know, I look at her as my wife.
VARGAS: That`s Kevin Federline, K-Fed, Britney Spears` husband. Our very candid interview about what it`s been like to be married to one of the world`s most famous women. That`s coming up.
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VARGAS: Well, tonight, some startling words from Keith Urban, just before he entered rehab. In an interview with "Best Life" magazine, there are some eerie foreshadowing of what was about to happen to the country star. He says, "Everybody gets overwhelmed at points, but it`s when you think you can handle it yourself and you don`t reach out for help, that is when the end is near. Recognize that you are about to tire, that drowning is looming."
You can read more in the December-January issue of "Best Life" magazine, out November 17, or online now at bestlifeonline.com.
ANDERSON: Kevin Federline, K-Fed, Britney Spears` husband, our very candid interview on being married to one of the world`s most famous women.
VARGAS: Also, Lindsay Lohan, who has been criticized for being too skinny herself, is speaking out about a controversial documentary that goes inside eating disorder clinics.
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ANDERSON: Welcome back to SHOWBIZ TONIGHT. It is 30 minutes past the hour. I`m Brooke Anderson in New York.
VARGAS: And I`m Sibila Vargas in Hollywood. This is TV`s most provocative entertainment news show.
ANDERSON: Sibila, tonight, we`re going to hear from Kevin Federline, or K-Fed as many people know him. He stopped by the SHOWBIZ TONIGHT studios, and was surprisingly very open, very candid, about his life with Britney Spears and how they deal with all the negative press and all the harsh criticism that is aimed at them many times.
VARGAS: I`ve been hearing about your interview, so I can`t wait to hear it. I mean, I - I know, you got a lot of great things out of him.
ANDERSON: It was pretty interesting, yes.
VARGAS: Also, can you say Nas (ph)? Is a nas (ph)? It`s a nas (ph).
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VARGAS: "Borat." Of course, anyone who went to the - anyone who went to the movies this weekend knows about "Borat." I mean, it did exceptionally well, a smash hit. The comedy is - is just - just keeping in stitches.
But apparently, not everyone is in stitches, and not everybody`s laughing. We`ll tell you a little later.
ANDERSON: That`s right. I saw it. Raunchy, offensive, but hilarious at the same time, Sibila.
But first, remember the 90s? It was the decade of the supermodel: Cindy Crawford, Linda Evangelista, Naomi Campbell - they actually walked the same runways that today`s skinny models are walking down.
So how did we get from tall those sexy supermodels to super-skinny models who are only making headlines because they`re - well, just too skinny? Where have all the supermodels gone?
SHOWBIZ TONIGHT investigates the fall of the supermodel.
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ANDERSON (voice-over): In the 1990s, there was Cindy and Christie, Naomi and of course Linda. They were supermodels who everyone knew by their first name.
MARY ALICE STEPHENSON, CONTRIBUTING EDITOR, "HARPER`S BAZAAR": It was very exciting to see such personality on the runway during the supermodel era.
ANDERSON: And right before everyone`s eyes, they blossomed into sexy women.
STEPHENSON: We grew up with those girls. They started as young girls, and they developed in front of our eyes and became these huge personalities: curvy, glamorous and glorious.
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ANDERSON: In fact, so glamorous even George Michael shot a video using their famous faces for his 1990 song "Freedom."
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CATHY GOULD, ELITE MODEL MANAGEMENT: Everyone remembers the George Michael video, which blew everyone away. And those were exciting times.
ANDERSON: Exciting times indeed. But fast forward to 2006, and supermodels on the runway are a thing of the past.
STEPHENSON: What we`re seeing is, when you show clothes on the runway, it`s not about the personality in them. It`s about the clothes.
ANDERSON: Well, designers may want their runways to be all about the clothes. But SHOWBIZ TONIGHT can tell you it`s not the clothes getting all the attention.
It`s the super-skinny models wearing them.
A.J. HAMMER, CNN HEADLINE NEWS ANCHOR: Something truly amazing has happened, a major.
ANDERSON: SHOWBIZ TONIGHT was on top of this controversy when models who were too skinny were banned from runways in Spain. And when we were all over the controversy once again when this scary-skinny anorexic-looking model turned up on a runway at a major fashion show in France.
So what gives? What`s happened to the curvy supermodel?
SHOWBIZ TONIGHT went right to the experts to find out just who replaced all those glamazons of the 90s, and we found it`s not the skinny models` fault.
GOULD: We`re not looking to who is the next supermodel. Because Hollywood is basically kind of taken the carpet underneath us from that.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I like Chloe (ph). I like that person (ph).
ANDERSON: That`s right; blame it on Hollywood. The paparazzi-laden capital of the world has taken the spotlight off the runway and made celebrities the fashion goddess of the world.
STPEHENSON: Our Claudia Schiffer, our Cindy Crawford, are now Sandra Bullock, Mischa Barton, now Gwyneth Paltrow, Kate Hudson. Today it`s about the celebrities.
ANDERSON: Where before the fashion world looked to models on the runway to sell their clothes, now the action is happening off the runway, and the attention is on who`s wearing what on the red carpet.
And they come in all shapes and sizes.
STPEHENSON: Whether they`re curvy Jennifer Lopez, whether they`re a buxom Queen Latifah, whether they`re Size 2 to Size 14, those clothes are then made for the stars of today in all shapes and sizes.
ANDERSON: One of the reasons the fashion world may be looking to Hollywood to help bring attention to their clothes is because with the supermodels leaving the runways, people are not paying the kind of attention to fashion shows that they used to.
GOULD: The shows are becoming boring. And I think designers, if they`re smart, they`ll take a chance and go back to the days when these shows were exciting.
STEPHENSON: And remember, everything that is new was old and vice versa. So bring them back. Bring back the supermodels.
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ANDERSON: SHOWBIZ TONIGHT is happy to report there is at least one designer who is using one of those famous faces in 2006. Donatella Versace shot her 2006-2007 autumn-winter campaigns using the one and only Christie Turlington.
So the glitzy supermodel era may have come and gone, but how did we go from Cindy to sickly? Only SHOWBIZ TONIGHT brings you the continuing coverage of the "SHOWBIZ Weight Watch."
With me tonight in New York is Emme, who is supermodel and women`s advocate - a supermodel, pardon me.
Welcome, Emme. Good to see you.
EMME, SUPERMODEL AND WOMEN`S ADVOCATE: Thank you.
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ANDERSON: Let me ask you this: how did we get to this ridiculous point where we go from the supermodel era, where you have Cindy and Naomi and Christie, who are beautiful, curvier models, to this outrageous image of sickly, scary, skinny people?
EMME: There`s trends that happen in fashion. And there`s also a feeling that you`ve had the supermodels, they had a lot of attention, they had their own jobs, now they have their own business. They were looked at a little bit more than the clothes.
And then you go back to a whole other trend of going ultra thin; let`s just have the models be clothes hangers.
ANDERSON: And they went to an extreme.
EMME: Yes.
ANDERSON: Boy, did they. And - and here`s what I don`t get: there was this ban on the skinny models.
EMME: Yes.
ANDERSON: .in Madrid. A lot of people stood up and said: Hey, it`s about time.
EMME: Yes.
ANDERSON: But then - I want to show you a picture.
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EMME: There was no follow through.
ANDERSON: That`s right.
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ANDERSON: Now look at this: in France, a major designer basically thumbed his nose at the whole thing, and - and look at this girl, ribs protruding. We wanted to take her to a hospital.
What kind of message does this send?
EMME: That`s exactly what you should of - you know, what - what we as a nation and possibly the world needs to take a look at our own ideas of what - what is - what are - what messages are we trying to send here, to the young people, to the mothers, to the individuals that you want to sell your clothes to? Does she have to be thin to be considered appropriate for your line?
I - we have to really have a little bit more responsibility, a social responsibility.
When all this was happening in Spain, applaud Spain.
ANDERSON: Right.
EMME: .the government for standing up. However, I think that there was a missing piece in the plan. With all the publicity around that, there should have been a plan in place where therapists to the girls that were getting off the runway, being asked - you know, pulled off and said, You cannot do this any longer, because you`re way too thin; the image is wrong.
There should have been some kind of counseling, I think, as well as a nationwide, in Spain, polling: do you believe that this is right, this is correct? And I think that you guys, SHOWBIZ Today (sic), you really did a very, very good job with bringing up the issue. And the polling that you did with your readers.
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EMME: Everybody is feeling the same way. So get together in your home communities, get together with your - your local - your - your - your school.
ANDERSON: Right.
EMME: .and talk about what is going on in schools. Is there bullying going on? And grassroots, within home.
ANDERSON: The deeper issues.
EMME: The deep.
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ANDERSON: So maybe correct the problem - yes, and reverse the trend.
EMME: Yes.
ANDERSON: Well what do you think? Will the trend reverse? Will curvy make a comeback?
EMME: Yes, absolutely. However, that`s not exactly where we want to go. We want to be able to go and take a look at mass media, whether it`s magazines, whether it`s fashion shows, and see more of a diversity of the healthy images of beauty. Not just be bipolar here, but to have an inclusiveness, to be able to take a look at beauty in its all beauty forms, as well as in health.
ANDERSON: Right, a variety of.
EMME: Health.
ANDERSON: .all shapes and sizes. But healthy.
EMME: Healthy.
ANDERSON: .shapes and sizes.
EMME: Let there be thin women - healthy, thin images. Medium-sized women - healthy images.
ANDERSON: I couldn`t agree with you more.
EMME: Large-sized models - healthy images.
ANDERSON: You`re a fuller-figure model. That`s your career.
EMME: I`ve got curves.
ANDERSON: People love you. You`ve got curves, baby.
But people look at you and say, Thank you. You`re normal. You`re relatable.
EMME: I do get acknowledgement from women who are a Size 6, Size 2 and Size 22 for standing up and - and being at peace with my shape as well as my life.
ANDERSON: Yes.
EMME: .and not giving in.
ANDERSON: You`re beautiful on the outside as well as the inside.
EMME: Thanks, Brooke.
ANDERSON: Emme, always a real pleasure to talk to you. Thanks for your insight.
EMME: Thank you for bringing up the issue.
ANDERSON: Of course.
VARGAS: We`ll continue with the "SHOWBIZ Weight Watch."
Lindsay Lohan has some weighty issues on her mind. I caught up with Lindsay, who`s out promoting the movie "Bobby," and she just couldn`t stop talking about a new documentary that goes inside eating-disorder clinics. It really made an impression on her.
Take a look at this.
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LINDSAY LOHAN, ACTRESS: I saw this movie called "Thin." That was something Lauren Greenfield directed. It`s a documentary for HBO. And I - I - it`s an amazing movie about these girls that have anorexia nervosa and bulimia nervosa. And it`s - I mean, I would encourage everyone to see it. Because they`re - I mean, just - just, it`s a girl`s movie, too, aside from, you know, going to a negative topic of, you know, people hurting their bodies.
But it`s an amazing film. And I - I met with her, and I would love to do something with her for the film and, you know, make it into maybe an actual, you know, feature. Because I think it`s something important for people to know about.
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VARGAS: And later this week on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT, we`ll meet the woman behind the documentary that`s - that Lindsay was talking about. "Thin" producer Lauren Greenfield will be here on Thursday.
Well, why in the world are garden gnomes disappearing in France? We`re asking, what`s in a gnome? Next, in the story that made us say, "That`s Ridiculous!"
ANDERSON: "Borat" beats Santa at the box office. But how much of Borat`s shtick holds up to the SHOWBIZ TONIGHT Truth Squad? SHOWBIZ TONIGHT takes you all the way to Kazakhstan for a little fact-checking, coming up.
We`ll also have this:
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KEVEN FEDERLINE, ENTERTAINER: It`s crazy; it`s something that I can`t explain, because a lot of people look at her, and they`re fans. You know, I look up to her as my wife.
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VARGAS: Kevin Federline as you`ve never seen him before. K-Fed opens up about life with Britney, coming up in the interview you`ll see only on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT.
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ANDERSON: Welcome back to SHOWBIZ TONIGHT, TV`s most provocative entertainment news show.
Time now for another story that made us say.
CROWD: "That`s Ridiculous!"
ANDERSON: Sounds kind of evil, Bob (ph).
OK, we`ve all seen garden gnomes. But did you ever think they were pining for freedom? One group does. It`s called the Front for the Liberation of Garden Gnomes? Huh?
Well, anyway, they`ve struck again. About 80 stolen garden gnomes were found along a stream in France, along with a banner that said, "Gnome Mistreated, Gnome Liberated." This group has about 100 active members in five countries - and we think a little too much time on their hands.
Gnome liberation? Now "That`s Ridiculous!"
VARGAS: Well, "Borat" is bigger than Santa. Sorry, kids; it`s true. The bawdy comedy starring Sasha Baron Cohen as a journalist from Kazakhstan was the No. 1 movie at the weekend box office. "Borat" made $26 million, even though it was showing at fewer than 900 theaters. The No. 2 movie, "The Santa Clause 3," was showing in four times as many theaters.
"Borat" himself showed up on the "Today" show this morning to react to the news.
Take a look at this.
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SASHA BARON COHEN, "BORAT": I want to celebrate tonight. Matt, can you recommend any good prostitutes? They tell me you are the one to ask.
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(LAUGHTER)
MATT LAUER, "TODAY" SHOW: O`Reilly, help me out here.
(SHOUTING)
(END VIDEO CLIP)
VARGAS: Some very funny stuff.
But not everyone is laughing at "Borat," especially residents of Kazakhstan. In the movie, Borat (ph) makes outrageous claims about the life in his home country. So tonight, SHOWBIZ TONIGHT is the only entertainment news show that will take you right there. That`s right; the SHOWBIZ Truth Squad is going all the way to Kazakhstan to separate fact from comedy fiction.
Here tonight, CNN`s Inigo Gilmore for SHOWBIZ TONIGHT.
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INIGO GILMORE, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): A proud people with a proud culture. Yet a nation ridiculed around the world by Borat.
COHEN: My name a Borat. I like you.
GILMORE: But here on Kazakhstan`s National Day, signs that they`re prepared to fight back. "Borat" has cast Kazakhstan as a primitive, Jew- hating nation, where horses are better treated than women, and goat punching is a traditional sport. And they`re not too happy about it.
COHEN: This is Natalia (ph). She is my sister. She is No. 4 prostitute in all of Kazakhstan.
GILMORE: This man recognized the comedian, and praises his moustache. But he says facial hair is where the comparison with Kazakhs begins and ends.
"There`s 150 ethnic groups, but no one looks like Borat," he says dismissively. "And we don`t cage up our women, I promise."
The Kazakhs I met denied they were anti-Semitic. But they`re certainly anti-Borat.
(on camera): If he came here, what would happen to him?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I think they would kill him.
GILMORE: They would kill him?
(voice-over): One of Borat`s jokes is that Kazakh women are working en masse as prostitutes. We did find some, but Kazakhs claim it`s no different from any major city in the West.
There`s no denying, however, that the local cuisine is - well, unique.
(on camera): Among many other things, Borat has insulted Kazakhs with some outlandish claims about what they eat and drink. No horse urine on the menu here, but there is this: fermented horse milk. And it is pretty unusual, to say the least.
And this is the national dish: wild horse and (INAUDIBLE) camel.
But it`s other perceived insults that have really upset Kazakhs. So much so, some seem prepared to boil him up (ph) themselves.
(voice-over): Out in the rural areas, plenty of goats. But as for punching them, no hard evidence.
Borat may not get off so lightly.
"What he`s saying is just a load of old rubbish, and gravely insulting to us. He should be careful."
On this basis it seems maybe Kazakhs do have the right to feel rather bruised.
Then again, we did meet this man on his horse. "I have two horses. I love them very much. And yes, I treat them better than my woman," he says."
(LAUGHTER)
COHEN: Nice!
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VARGAS: That was CNN`s Inigo Gilmore for SHOWBIZ TONIGHT in Kazakhstan.
ANDERSON: Tonight, Kevin Federline, Britney Spears` better half like you`ve never heard him before.
I`m sure you`ve all seen the bad press this guy has gotten over the last couple of years. Well, Kevin, who up until this point hasn`t really done interviews, is finally opening up. He`s got to; his first album, called "Playing With Fire," hit stores last week.
I spoke with K-Fed, and asked him all about his very public marriage, and how he`s handling all the nasty media attention.
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ANDERSON: Do you think that the public has a grossly distorted perception of you?
FEDERLINE: You know, I don`t think completely. I think, like - I think people really know - you know, like, they sit back and they can look at me and they see these interviews like this - I think they get a good concept of what type of person I am.
But I think, at the same time, it`s been, like, their favorite pastime to make fun of and poke at, you know, my situation and stuff like that. So.
ANDERSON: Does that anger you?
FEDERLINE: It`s - it`s.
ANDERSON: Does it frustrate you?
FEDERLINE: No, it`s - it` s all right. It`s all right. It`s - it`s my life, you know? It`s what`s happened to me. I mean, I`m thankful for - for what I have. So if I got to go through that to be with the love of my life and - and have wonderful children, then so be it.
ANDERSON: You know what you were signing up for, huh?
FEDERLINE: Not completely. But.
(LAUGHTER)
ANDERSON: Because to the world, you are marrying an international superstar. But to you, it wasn`t like that, was it?
FEDERLINE: Not at all. Not at all.
I - you know, she`s - she`s another person to me. You know, she`s a talented person. And - and she`s - I love her to death, you know? It`s - it`s - it`s crazy. It`s something that I can`t explain, because a lot of people look at her, and they`re fans. You know, and they - they look up to her as that artist, and they look - you know, I look up to her as my wife and, like, a real, genuine person.
I`m - I`m like her biggest fan as - as a husband.
(END VIDEOTAPE)
ANDERSON: Tomorrow, my full interview with Kevin: how he and Britney are raising their two small kids, what he makes of those rumors that he`s a freeloader, and whether he and Brit would re-do that reality show of theirs if they had the chance. That`s tomorrow.
VARGAS: Well, just when you thought you`d seen it all on "Desperate Housewives," a big shocker last night: two of the characters were killed. Carolyn Bigsby shot Norah Huffington right in the supermarket.
But one person still alive and well is Ricardo Antonio Chavira, who plays the husband of Gabrielle, played by Eva Longoria. Chavira had to get adjusted to being in the spotlight rather quickly after "Desperate Housewives" became a hit.
He spoke with our own A.J. Hammer, who said fame`s not something he has let go to his head.
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HAMMER: You know, fame came pretty fast and furious for you, obviously, with - with "Desperate Housewives" taking off. Obviously, you had been working before, and then - but that but you on the map in - in a very global way.
How did you handle it when it first happened? Because the onslaught was serious.
RICARDO CHAVIRA, ACTOR: You know, I - the way I handled it was - you know, the show`s "Desperate Housewives," so everything is going to focus on the women on our show. And I actually like that. Because it`s, like, you know, they - if we`re doing red carpet or any kind of event or something, I can be walking down doing an interview - the minute those women show up, you know, they could care less about me.
HAMMER: Well let - let me ask you this then: having seen what you`ve seen, particularly with - whether it`s your costars, or what you`ve gone through yourself, did - did you get a handle on why some people get really screwed up by it, when it comes on so quickly? Were you able to get a glimpse into that, even though it didn`t happen to you?
CHAVIRA: I - I think it`s - I think it`s because they start believing what everyone`s telling them. And I think people are just - you know, it`s - it`s - you know, having that group of yes-men around you.
HAMMER: Yes.
CHAVIRA: .that are constantly going to make you feel good and - and - and make you - you know, kind of give you a definition of your self-worth or self-importance. And the thing is, is you can`t allow that to come from someone else. That has to come from you.
You know, you - you are what defines you. Your actions are what defines you. And - and when you`re allowing other people to try and give definition yourself, especially when it comes to, like, publicity within - within a set industry - man, if you start buying into that stuff, you know, and - I just - I can`t. I - I can`t, and I won`t.
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VARGAS: Good advice.
And of course, you can catch Ricardo Chavira in "Desperate Housewives" Sundays on ABC.
ANDERSON: On Friday, we asked you to vote on our SHOWBIZ TONIGHT "Question of the Day": "Anna Nicole Smith: Do you feel sorry for her?"
The vote is split down the middle": 50 percent of you say yes; 50 percent of you say no.
Here`s some of the e-mails we received:
Braeden from Texas writes, "I can`t believe that anyone would not feel sorry for Anna Nicole. She just lost a child."
Brooke from Wisconsin says, "She may be a little odd, but she is a mother and a person, just like the rest of us."
We appreciate your thoughts. SHOWBIZ TONIGHT coming right back.
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ANDERSON: It`s time to see what`s coming up on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT in the "SHOWBIZ Marquee." Give it to us, Charles (ph).
Tomorrow, star pre-nup. These stars had all their I`s dotted and their T`s crossed before they said "I do." And it turned out that came in awfully handy. SHOWBIZ TONIGHT with the best star pre-nups ever. That`s tomorrow.
Also tomorrow, my interview with Kevin Federline. It`s K-Fed like you`ve never seen him before. Kevin opens up about life with Britney and the kids. All that tomorrow in the interview you will see only right here on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT.
And that is it for SHOWBIZ TONIGHT. I`m Brooke Anderson in New York. A.J. Hammer has the night off. Thanks for watching, everybody.
VARGAS: And I`m Sibila Vargas in Hollywood. Good night, everyone, and I`ll see you tomorrow.
Glenn Beck is next, right after the head - the latest headlines from CNN Headline News.
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