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Britney and Kevin`s Finances; Prisoners of Fame
Aired November 02, 2007 - 23:00 ET
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A.J. HAMMER, CO-HOST: An arrest in the Oprah Winfrey Africa school abuse shocker. I`m A.J. Hammer in New York.
BROOKE ANDERSON, CO-HOST: And you won`t believe what Britney Spears spent each month. A revealing look at her and Kevin Federline private finances. I`m Brooke Anderson in Hollywood. TV`s most provocative entertainment news show starts right now.
HAMMER: On SHOWBIZ TONIGHT, inside Hayden`s dolphin disaster. Tonight, the real story behind "Heroes" star Hayden Panettiere`s heartbreaking attempt to save dolphins from being brutally massacred.
Tonight, SHOWBIZ TONIGHT with an emotional one on one with Hayden. Why did she put her own life in danger? SHOWBIZ TONIGHT with the day of the dolphins Hayden will never forget.
Tonight, a shocking Dog Chapman racial rant twist. SHOWBIZ TONIGHT with the startling claims of who sold an explosive tape with Dog, The Bounty Hunter going off on a disgusting racial rant.
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DUANE "THE DOG" CHAPMAN, BOUNTY HUNTER: It`s not just because she`s black. It`s because we use the word (EXPLETIVE DELETED) sometimes here.
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HAMMER: Tonight, did Dog`s own son rat out his father? And if so, why in the world would he do such a thing? Tonight, SHOWBIZ TONIGHT investigates "Who Sold The Dog Out?"
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Hello. I`m A.J. Hammer broadcasting tonight and every night from New York City.
ANDERSON: Hi there, everyone. I`m Brooke Anderson coming to you from Hollywood. And there`s been a shocking and dramatic arrest in the abuse scandal that has rocked Oprah Winfrey`s school for girls. SHOWBIZ TONIGHT with a startling new development that`s straight ahead.
HAMMER: But first, what you are about to see and hear will amaze you. The dramatic and brave story of 18-year-old "Heroes" star Hayden Panettiere`s fight to save dolphins from being slaughtered, and you are going to hear it from Hayden herself.
HAMMER: You`re seeing Hayden in tears as she emerged from the waters in southwestern Japan after trying to stop the slaughter of dolphins there.
ANDERSON: It was a gruesome sight. Thousands of dolphins being killed. Hayden putting herself in harm`s way to stop it. And right now, we are going to hear Hayden tell us what happened.
Hayden Panettiere is with us on the phone tonight from Hollywood. Hayden was in Japan with Jeff Pantukhoff who is the founder of the Whaleman Foundation. Jeff is with us in Hollywood. Jeff, Hayden, welcome to you both.
Hayden, we just saw the heartbreaking video. You were breaking down after seeing these dolphins, specifically pilot whales, thousands of them in danger of being slaughtered. Take us back it that moment. What did you see that tore you up like that?
HAYDEN PANETTIERE, ACTRESS: That moment, about six of us had gone into the water. We had paddled out in attempt to get good footage of what they were doing in order to make people aware. And I can`t tell you exactly how many had already been slaughtered, but I can tell you that the water was about fire engine red, so much so that you probably could have stuck a paint brush in it and painted a picture with the blood of the pilot whales.
And we were going out there kind of to do a ceremony for them, which we had done the day before as well and pray for them. And kind of come in peace because we have realized, I think, over the years in trying to stop this that the only real way is to raise awareness and to educate the Japanese people as to the facts about whales and dolphins, which is that whale and dolphin meat is actually very contaminated. And by eating them, they are causing themselves harm. So by slaughtering these harmless creatures, it really is kind of pointless.
ANDERSON: Well, did you ever feel at any time that your life was in danger because we see in the video that the fishermen were using some sort of boat hook to intimidate you and seemed to physically want to push you away.
PANETTIERE: Yes. You know, I think we all got were - I think we all were driving down because it was about a four-hour drive down. And we had left at about 1:00 in the morning in Japan and were in the water around 6:45 in the morning. And I think we all went down there with the thought of the fact that we were going to be scared and we were very anxious.
But I can tell you that I hit the water and started paddling and getting out there. I was so beyond not - I was not afraid at all. Fear never crossed my mind, especially comparing it to the fear that those whales must have been feeling. And as soon as we got out there, the whales kind of slowed down and then started poking their heads up and really kind of vibed off of us.
So in a way, we went out there calmly enough so that the whales could kind of feed off our energy, because they really do that. And then they started - the fishermen came over and started using their propeller to scare us away with their boat and picked up - that stick was actually what they used to push down the nets when the boats trying to go over them. And it`s got kind of a V-shape at the end of it and they were hitting our surf boards. And another girl out there with us who was actually physically got hit. But at no point was I afraid at all for some reason. I just - that wasn`t a feeling I was feeling.
ANDERSON: That was very courageous of you. Jeff, you were there with Hayden shooting video for your organization, The Whaleman Foundation. As I said, they seemed to be attacking them with these poles. Were you shocked to see that?
JEFF PANTUKHOFF, FOUNDER OF THE WHALEMAN FOUNDATION: Yes, I actually was because the fishermen knew we had a lot of cameras down there on the action. And I was - definitely couldn`t believe that they were out there trying to knock people off the surf boards and actually stabbing at them with these poles.
ANDERSON: Well, the fishermen say that this is part of the Japanese culture, that these dolphins are killed for food. Hayden spoke a little bit about that as well. But what did you say to that?
PANTUKHOFF: Well, you know, they do - there`s a couple reasons why they herd these dolphins in. One is to slaughter them for food. We have been trying to get the message out, like in a lot of governments. The government gets out to the people what they want the people to hear.
I mean, over here, weapons of mass destruction, our government said they had them. Of course, Iraq didn`t have them. Over there in Japan, they are telling everybody that dolphin and whale meat is healthy, it`s fine for you. It`s good for you to eat. But the fact of the matter is it`s highly contaminated with PCBs, mercury, dioxins. Studies have showed it`s very toxic for people to ingest.
And another part of this thing - they get about $1,000 per dolphin that`s slain. Multimillion dollar business. But they also sometimes take live healthy animals and sell them to the captivity industry for hundreds of thousands of dollars.
ANDERSON: So vicious. So inhumane. Hayden if you had the chance to do it again, knowing, you know, what you saw, what you experienced, would you do it again? Do you have any more trips planned?
PANETTIERE: Absolutely. We continue to fight this every day and we are kind of asking people - it`s a difficult thing to do to stop something like this. But now, more than ever, it`s time for change, whether it`s culture or not.
As you can see, that doesn`t look like kind of a cultural thing to me. That looks more like an unnecessary slaughter. And, you know, I`m going to try for as long as I can not to buy Japanese products because the only way to really stop this is hit them in the pocket, I guess. And I continue to support it and I will definite go down there as much as I can and try to put a stop to it.
ANDERSON: And it`s very brave of all of you. Best of luck in your future efforts. Hayden Panettiere, Jeff Pantukhoff, thank you both.
PANTUKHOFF: Yes. Thank you very much.
HAMMER: It`s unbelievable that it continues in a modern society. Well, tonight, a dramatic and revealing look into the finances of Britney Spears and her ex, Kevin Federline. And if you have ever wondered how much it cost to be a pop train wreck or a pop train wreck`s ex-husband, well, now SHOWBIZ TONIGHT can tell you, brand new court documents are shining the light on Britney Spears` personal fortune, and Kevin Federline - well, he`s not such a fortune.
And what do these fascinating papers tell us? Well, let`s just say Brit may be better at singing than managing her money.
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(voice over): She may be a walking train wreck, but one thing to remember about Britney Spears - she is very, very rich.
KEN BAKER, "US WEEKLY" MAGAZINE: Rumors that Britney Spears is going broke are not true.
HAMMER: On the same week Britney`s new album "Blackout" is burning up the charts, SHOWBIZ TONIGHT has some new information on exactly how much Britney is making and how much she is saving. Well, here`s a hint. Someone had better get Brit a piggy bank for Christmas.
BAKER: She`s going to end up being the next M.C. Hammer and go bankrupt.
HAMMER: And do you ever wonder if Britney`s ex, Kevin Federline, really is rolling VIP as he raps in this commercial for Nationwide Annuity?
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HAMMER: Well, SHOWBIZ TONIGHT is looking inside his pocket too. So break out your calculators because SHOWBIZ TONIGHT has a peek at the lifestyles of the rich and shameless, Brit And K-Fed. New court papers in Britney and Federline`s custody battle over their two young sons show us how much the ex-couple made and spent in 2006.
Well, Britney may not need more money because SHOWBIZ TONIGHT can tell you, the pop starlet is pulling in $737,000 a month. Yes. That`s per month. Ken Baker of "Us Weekly" magazine tells SHOWBIZ TONIGHT, that`s mind blowing.
BAKER: She just drives around town. She goes to Starbucks. She spends a lot of money. She goofs off.
HAMMER: And goofing off is very expensive for Britney. Her entertainment price tag - $10,000 a month. Her monthly clothing spending spree - $16,000 a month. Kind of makes you appreciate her MTV Video Music Awards outfit a bit more, huh?
BAKER: Britney sends $15,000 in child support to Kevin but $16,000 on clothes. So she`s spending more on clothes than on her own kids.
HAMMER: And the most shocking thing in the documents is its listing for Britney`s savings and investments. Zero. Zip. Nada.
ALLISON KOZICK(ph), BUSINESS REPORTER FOR CNN: You don`t even have to be a business reporter or a rocket scientist to figure out that what she`s doing with her money is absolutely ridiculous.
HAMMER: It turns out Allison Kozick(ph) is a business reporter for CNN. And she tells SHOWBIZ TONIGHT, the fact Brit appears not to be saving or investing is a troubling sign.
KOZICK(ph): She really needs to break out of that really little dream bubble that she`s in, and realize she`s really putting herself in jeopardy financially.
HAMMER: And what about K-Fed, whose $20,000 a month spousal support from Britney is days from running out. Well, in 2006, he apparently earned almost half a million dollars.
Not so fast. Because minus business expenses, he had about $7,000 left.
BAKER: Kevin must have some great accountant.
HAMMER: And check out his monthly expenses. $5,000 in entertainment; $7500 in rent; $2,000 on clothes; $1500 for eating out; and $750 in phone bills. Each a fraction of what his ex is spending.
So it turns out that Britney, and not K-Fed, is the one who, in K- Fed`s words from the commercial -
KEVIN FEDERLINE, BRITNEY SPEARS` EX-HUSBAND: Rollin` VIP.
HAMMER: But if she keeps it up, Britney could be rolling towards financial disaster.
KOZICK(ph): Will her money really last forever? Probably not, especially if she`s just spending it.
HAMMER: So we can hope that Britney gets smarter about her money and doesn`t end up like Kevin does in his commercial.
UNIDENTIFIED ACTOR: Federline!
FEDERLINE: What?
UNIDENTIFIED ACTOR: Fries!
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HAMMER: Now, it turns out Britney may have to spend even more of her income on her legal fees. TMZ.com reporting that Los Angeles Police are investigating a traffic mishap last Friday when Brit allegedly ran over the foot of a sheriff`s deputy after her custody court date.
Well, there has been an arrest in the shocking Oprah Winfrey`s school abuse scandal and you are not going to believe the disgusting charges against the suspect, including soliciting underaged girls to perform indecent acts. Tonight, SHOWBIZ TONIGHT is heading right to Africa for the very latest.
ANDERSON: A.J., another scandal I can`t even comprehend, did Dog, The Bounty Hunter`s own son rat him out? That`s right. Did his own flesh and blood sell the stunning tape of his dad repeatedly using the "N" word. Tonight, SHOWBIZ TONIGHT investigates, "Who Sold The Dog Out?" Also this -
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PARIS HILTON: You guys (UNINTELLIGIBLE). Do you want me to call my lawyer and sue (EXPLETIVE DELETED) place?
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HAMMER: Well, just in case you can`t recognize that voice, yes, that`s Paris Hilton going ballistic, wearing a skeleton mask in a porn shop. Why is Paris extra angry in an x-rated store? If you love Paris or, better yet, if you can`t stand Paris, you will not want to miss this. It`s coming up. SHOWBIZ TONIGHT is coming right back.
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HAMMER: Welcome back to SHOWBIZ TONIGHT, TV`s most provocative entertainment news show. I`m A.J. Hammer in New York. Tonight, an absolutely startling new development in the alleged abuse scandal at Oprah Winfrey`s school for girls in Africa. SHOWBIZ TONIGHT can now tell you that a matron at the school has now been arrested on charges of abuse and sexual assault.
"Access Hollywood`s" Shaun Robinson is with us tonight from Oprah`s school in Henley-on-Klip in South Africa. Shaun, thanks for joining us.
SHAUN ROBINSON, CORRESPONDENT, "ACCESS HOLLYWOOD": Thank you, A.J.
HAMMER: So there are these terrible accusations of physical abuse and actually soliciting underaged girls to perform indecent acts. What have you actually heard from the law enforcement officials there?
ROBINSON: Well, actually, there are a number of charges, but this all started when there was a dorm matron here at Oprah Winfrey`s Leadership Academy for Girls, right behind me, was accused of sexually abusing one student at the school and then physically abusing several others. What happened right after that, Oprah Winfrey flew down from Chicago immediately when she found out about this with her own team of investigators.
What they did is they interviewed a number of the staff members here and the girls and put together a very detailed report, which they then turned over to South African authorities. They, in turn, found the person, the dorm matron, who had been relieved of her duties, called her on her cell phone, and told her that they wanted her to come in. Last night, she did so. Last night, there was an arrest made and right now she is in jail.
HAMMER: Well this has just been shattering for something that has been such a dream of Oprah Winfrey`s. I want to read to you a statement Oprah gave SHOWBIZ TONIGHT. She said, quote, "I`d like to thank the South African Police Services for bringing this investigation at my Academy to a timely resolution. I am grateful for their compassion and sensitivity to the girls during this difficult time. It means the world to me. It is my hope that the accused is brought to justice and that this serves as a reminder that any time a child has the courage to step forward, it is our duty as adults to listen and take immediate action." Shaun, Oprah is just devastated by what has happened here, isn`t she?
ROBINSON: She is - she certainly is. People who know her say this has rocked her to her core. She, of course, has been vocal in the past about being the victim of abuse when she was growing up. And so she wanted a safe haven for these young ladies.
And when I covered the opening of the girls` school back in January, you will find that this place is like a fortress. There is a number of levels of security that you have to go through to even get into the school. And what is ironic - a sad irony to this story is that the threat did not come from outside but inside those walls. But many people are commending Miss Winfrey for acting so quickly and wanting to bring this person to justice.
HAMMER: And her actions have been so dramatic to make sure that this never happens again. Shaun, I understand she`s given each of the girls their own cell phones, is that right?
ROBINSON: Yes. She certainly has. She has not only given them her telephone number and e-mail address, but she bought all of the students personal cell phones. Now, that idea may not fly in the States, but Oprah wants to make sure that these girl have a direct line to her.
Because here is the problem, A.J. There are people who are believed to have known about this abuse - alleged abuse - and did nothing about it, turned a blind eye to it. And hat`s why Oprah has done a house cleaning here at the school. Many of the people have been relieved of their duties.
All of the dorm matrons, not only the woman who was under arrest, but all of the dorm matrons have been relieved of their duties. So there are people who are believed to have known about this but did not say anything and that`s one of the reasons why Oprah wanted these girls to have a direct line to her in case anything else happened, God forbid, they would be able to contact her.
HAMMER: She definitely seems to have done the right thing. "Access Hollywood`s" Shaun Robinson, thank you so much for that firsthand account. I appreciate it.
ROBINSON: Thanks, A.J.
HAMMER: Well, another explosive story that just blows my mind, this Dog, The Bounty Hunter racial rant.
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CHAPMAN: I`m not going to take a chance ever in life of losing everything I`ve worked for, for 30 years because some (EXPLETIVE DELETED) heard us say (EXPLETIVE DELETED) and turned us in to the "Enquirer" magazine.
HAMMER: Just unbelievable what this guy said. And get this, did Dog`s own son rat him out? That`s right. Did his own flesh and blood sell the stunning tape of his dad repeatedly using the "N" word? Well, tonight, SHOWBIZ TONIGHT investigates, "Who Sold the Dog Out?"
ANDERSON: And, you know, a lot of stars complain that they can`t lead a normal life because they are so famous. Well, what do you think? Does it come with the territory?
Coming up, we`ve got my controversial showbiz special report, "Are Stars Prisoners of Their Fame?" You don`t want to miss that. And a huge new film for Tom Cruise. This could really make or break his career. Tom is really opening up about working with Robert Redford on his brand new political film "Lions for Lambs." I`ve got that coming up next. Stay with us.
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HAMMER: Monday - plastic surgery, not exactly a shocking new thing in Hollywood. But what`s really disturbing, younger and younger stars are doing it. What kind of message is this sending to their fans? And do these women really need to nip and tuck at such a young age? That`s Monday.
ANDERSON: SHOWBIZ TONIGHT was right there in Hollywood for the premiere of Tom Cruise`s new movie, "Lions for Lambs." Tom`s wife, Katie Holmes, was right there by his side. Big stars in this political drama. Meryl Streep, Robert Redford who also directs, you know. And, of course, we asked Tom what it was like to work with the legendary actor-director.
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TOM CRUISE, ACTOR: Anytime you work - but he`s Redford, you know. He`s Redford and to work with Redford, a guy who I grew up watching and even as when I - And the more I know about film and story telling, I just appreciate his work even that much more. Because he`s someone who has entertained us all for his whole career and, yet, he has also a very powerful intellect. And he`s a very dynamic filmmaker. And what he does with this kind of material is, you know - I don`t think anyone else could have done it the way he does it.
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ANDERSON: "Lions for Lambs" roars at the theaters November 9th.
HAMMER: Well, Brooke, she is Paris, hear her roar.
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HILTON: You guys (UNINTELLIGIBLE). Do you want me to call my lawyer and sue (EXPLETIVE DELETED) place?
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HAMMER: Yes. That`s Paris Hilton going absolutely nuts wearing a skeleton costume in a porn shop. Now, think about that for a second. If you love Paris, even if you can`t stand her, you`ve got to see this. It`s coming up.
ANDERSON: All I have to say is yuck, A.J. Now Paris is just one star who can`t go anywhere without a camera in her face, but you`re not going to see me shedding any tears for her. If you are famous, what do you think? Do you have to just deal with the attention? Coming up, my showbiz special report, "Are Stars Prisoners of Their Own Fame?"
HAMMER: Yes. Please don`t cry over Paris. And what Duane, "The Dog, Bounty Hunter" Chapman said is absolutely disgusting. But get this, did Dog`s own son rat him out? Did his own flesh and blood actually sell the stunning tape of his dad repeatedly using the "N" word? Tonight, I`m investigating, "Who Sold the Dog Out?"
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HAMMER: On SHOWBIZ TONIGHT, Dog, The Bounty Hunter, versus his own son.
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CHAPMAN: I`m not going to take a chance ever in life of losing everything I`ve worked for, for 30 years because some (EXPLETIVE DELETED) heard us say (EXPLETIVE DELETED) and turned us in to the "Enquirer" magazine.
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HAMMER: Tonight, brand new claims that Duane Chapman`s son sold him out by taping him using racial slurs and then allegedly selling it to a tabloid. Did the son do the right thing, or should this have stayed in the family? Tonight a passionate debate over Dog`s racial rants.
Also, Paris versus a porn shop. Paris waltzes into a porn store dressed like a skeleton and freaks out. What did she see that got her so mad, threatening to call her lawyer? Tonight, Paris flips out at a porn shop caught on tape.
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HAMMER: Welcome back to SHOWBIZ TONIGHT. It`s 30 minutes past the hour. I`m A.J. Hammer broadcasting tonight and every night from New York City.
ANDERSON: And I`m Brooke Anderson coming to you tonight from Hollywood. You are watching TV`s most provocative entertainment news show.
HAMMER: Tonight, startling new developments in the Dog Chapman racist rant controversy. Late today, SHOWBIZ TONIGHT learned that A & E is shelving "Dog, The Bounty Hunter" show one of its most popular, indefinitely. And Doug`s attorney is claiming Dog`s own son ratted him out.
Joining me tonight now from Washington, Matthew Felling. He is the editor for CBSNews.com`s "Public Eye." And from Philadelphia Temple University, Professor Marc Lamont Hill. Marc, Matthew, we appreciate you both being with us tonight.
We`ve now have heard that phone call between Dog and his son, Tucker. Dog going on this rant over his son`s black girlfriend, repeatedly using the "N" word. As he said, he didn`t want her on the set of his show. Let`s listen one more time.
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CHAPMAN: It`s not because she`s black. It`s because we use the word (EXPLETIVE DELETED) sometimes here. I`m not going to take a chance ever in life of losing everything I`ve worked for, for 30 years because some (EXPLETIVE DELETED) heard us say (EXPLETIVE DELETED) and turned us in to the "Enquirer" magazine. Our career is over. I`m not taking that chance at all.
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HAMMER: Well, it turns out that the tape was leaked to "The National Enquirer." As I mentioned, Dog`s attorney claimed that the tape came from Dog`s own son, Tucker. Marc, given that the tape was private, was it wrong for it to be released?
MARC LAMONT HILL, PROFESSOR, TEMPLE UNIVERSITY: Well, it`s kind of a mixed bag. In essence, I think that it was fine to do that. I do think though there are some ethical issues that come up with a family member, you know, snitches or rats out someone else. But in this case where he`s a public figure, the public had a right to know if there was a big disconnect between his private life and his public persona. And so he did it and I think it`s OK.
HAMMER: What do you think, Matthew, given that we don`t really know the true motivation of the son if he did, in fact, leak this tape out. The fact is dog is a public figure and now we have another side of him that we are seeing.
MATTHEW FELLING, EDITOR, CBSNEWS.COM`S "PUBLIC EYE": Yes. I think one of the problems with this debate is that we really can`t go into whether or not Chapman was wrong or right, because he was wrong, bar none. There is no debate there. But I think what this ends up being, and the professor alluded to it, is a balance between justice.
We want to see this guy get shamed for what he said. At the same time we are weighing how much justice versus how much privacy. The very fact this is done by his son, the very fact this was a personal voice mail between two people, the guy he put on this planet, it just makes it creepy.
And I think if he dropped the dime for $15,000 or whatever the reasons were, I think that - I might be an old fashioned guy, but I think this is something you can have a face to face and have it out an argument even without having to bring it into America. Because, I mean this guy put food on the kid`s table for so long. I just don`t understand the rationale unless things were a lot worse behind the scenes than we know already.
HAMMER: Which is very well likely. Go ahead, Marc.
HILL: Now, I`m inclined to think that they probably were. You know, in the church they have a saying that the devil may have brought it but God sent it. So there`s a sense that the son may have acted unethically.
He may have been selfish, spoiled, and just bitter and sent it for all the wrong reasons. It still turned out to be a public good, I think. I`m glad to see it happened even though I agree to some extent that this says something about the son as well.
HAMMER: And Matt, you call me a cynic, but a face to face conversation in this day and age of technology, TV and the Internet doesn`t happen so much.
FELLING: What bother mess is the fact that he said, "I wasn`t using this word about her race. I was using it about her character." And that actually is worse to me, the fact he has this stereotype about black people in general and the character of a certain class of people rather than just one person. He thought he was trying to do damage control, but actually could have made things worse.
HAMMER: Yes. And the fallout is being felt. I reported SHOWBIZ TONIGHT confirmed that A & E is shelving "Dog, The Bounty Hunter" for the foreseeable future. Marc, what do you think? Should they just take the show off the air permanently?
HILL: I would like to see it off the air permanently. I never liked the show anyway. But I think what they did was a perfect business move. They preemptively put the show on the shelf so that none of the civil rights activists - no one else could say they didn`t act responsibly. But they also kept certain other people at arm`s length by not cancelling the show, by just keeping it on the shelf. My guess is a whole bunch of dust is going to grow on that shelf before it ever sees the light of day again.
HAMMER: Yes, I would agree with you. Matt, do you think this was a good move on behalf of A & E? This is one of their most popular shows, so they are going to feel it in the pocket book there.
FELLING: Yes, the main pocketbook, absolutely. But still, there`s pocketbook issues versus image issues. The fact that A & E decided, "You know what? We are not going to take the PR Head of actually being blind to what this guy said." I think you`re actually - the market forces this in the case of things.
Because if they had kept it on, there would have been a big boy caught from the African-American community and correctly so. And it would have just kept this story prolonged in the public eye for even longer. This way, A & E gets to show that they are responsible and Dog gets some sense of justice in the immediate turn.
HAMMER: And, of course, Dog`s rant reminds of us what happened to Michael Richards, the "Seinfeld" star. I want to play for you very quickly what Jerry Seinfeld said to Larry King about whether or not Dog`s career could possibly recover from this. Let`s watch.
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JERRY SEINFELD, COMEDIAN: I don`t think - probably for that person, almost impossible. I think other people can forgive you. It`s harder to forgive yourself, I would say.
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HAMMER: Marc, I only have five seconds. But should we forgive and forget?
HILL: We should forgive but we will never forget this stuff.
HAMMER: No. We should never forget. And, you know, again, this opens up a dialogue that this country needs every day. This word is just never to be used. It should never be used. Marc Lamont Hill and Matthew Felling, thanks for being with us.
ANDERSON: You know that phrase, "Come on down. You are the next contestant on `The Price Is Right.`" Well, tonight, the host of the show, Drew Carey, is saying that in order for some to come on down, they should be able to get high.
He`s become an advocate for medical marijuana and is taking up that cause along with others in a new controversial political advocacy campaign. (BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)
DREW CAREY, GAME SHOW HOST AND COMEDIAN: Welcome to "The Price is Right," the happiest place on earth.
ANDERSON (voice over): Game show host and comedian, Drew Carey has built a career on making people smile. Now he`s hoping to make people sing about politics.
CAREY: There`s one thing we sell here in California that`s legal, that the federal government doesn`t want you to have.
ANDERSON: Carey is producing and starring in a series of issue-oriented web videos for "Reason.TV." In the latest, he defends the use of medical marijuana.
CAREY: Medical marijuana has been legal in California since Prop 215 passed in 1996 by a large margin. But the federal government doesn`t agree with the citizens of California, and uses the Controlled Substances Act to continue to conduct raids on the marijuana dispensaries with the support of local police.
ANDERSON: In another, he advocates privatizing L.A.`s freeway system to alleviate gridlock.
CAREY: Well, a private company can do it and they can charge people to ride on the way. You get a fast pass and pay five bucks.
DREW NOTT, PRESIDENT, REASON FOUNDATION: Drew Carey takes our ideas and he puts a recognizable face to them.
ANDERSON: David Nott is president of Reason Foundation, a libertarian non- profit behind "Reason.TV."
CAREY: OK. Here we go buddy.
ANDERSON: Carey has a long history with reason. A decade ago, the nonsmoker lit up with the group to protest the smoking ban in California restaurants and bars.
CAREY: Oh, my god. Send me to jail.
NOTT: He was protesting the lack of freedom and the intrusion of government.
CAREY: Medical marijuana.
ANDERSON: Carey plans at least 18 more libertarian-oriented web episodes in the future.
CAREY: Smell that smell. The smell of freedom.
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ANDERSON: And some of the issues Carey is tackling in the future include immigration, eminent domain and gambling. He`s not being paid for the effort. In fact, he recently became a trustee of Reason Foundation. And just so you know, 30 states now have some type of medical marijuana law but federal anti-drug laws trump state laws that allow the use of medical marijuana.
HAMMER: Paris Hilton in a porn shop, and I`m not just talking about her sex tape. I`m talking about the real Paris Hilton.
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HILTON: You guys (UNINTELLIGIBLE). Do you want me to call my lawyer and sue (EXPLETIVE DELETED) place?
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HAMMER: You know, I just can`t tell you how many times I`ve heard this story before. You go into a porn shop dressed like a skeleton and people just don`t take you seriously. What`s up with that? Coming up, why Paris lost it.
ANDERSON: Plus, big stars like Britney and Brad and Angelina can`t move a muscle without a swarm of paparazzi descending on them. Is it all part of the fame game and should they just quit complaining? That`s coming up, my showbiz special report, "Prisoners of Fame."
HAMMER: And the lovely and talented Hillary Swank is losing her hair. Don`t worry, it`s not a stress thing. She did it willingly. Coming up, why Hillary is losing her locks and Oprah Winfrey is doing the cutting.
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HAMMER: Welcome back to SHOWBIZ TONIGHT, TV`s most provocative entertainment news show. I`m A.J. Hammer in New York. All right. So Paris Hilton walks into a porn store wearing a skeleton mask and goes ballistic. This is not some work joke.
Paris actually went postal in an x-rated video shop. Check out this video courtesy of our friends over "TMZ." It`s surveillance video from a Toronto porn shop. Paris apparently sees some cardboard cutouts of herself, promoting her super selling x-rated video, "One Night In Paris." And then, she totally loses it, threatening to sue, sue, sue.
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HILTON: I really want those taken out because you guys can`t use my image in a store, a porn store. So you guys should take those down now. I really want them down. Because they are me and this is not right. I`m really serious. Take them down now or I`m calling the (EXPLETIVE DELETED) cops.
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HAMMER: Yes. Paris furious. I don`t know why she`s so upset. She made so much money off this sex tape.
ANDERSON: Oh, A.J. Well, Paris Hilton can`t make a move without a camera capturing every detail. And you know, she`s not alone. It`s our showbiz special report, "Prisoners Of Fame."
Angelina Jolie, Britney Spears, Lindsay Lohan are so, so famous they are practically prisoners of their own fame. Paparazzi surround them everywhere they go. But should we feel sorry for them or is this just the price they have to pay for superstar status? It`s our showbiz special report, "Prisoners Of Fame."
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WENTWORTH MILLER, ACTOR: We`ve got a problem.
ANDERSON: On Fox`s "Prison Break," Wentworth Miller`s character goes to extremes to free his wrongly convicted brother. Talk about drama. But SHOWBIZ TONIGHT can tell you, for some stars, there`s no escape from their own prison, a prison built on their own fame. Britney Spears. Lindsay Lohan. Angelina, and Brad.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE REPORTER: A couple of the guys were doing the stakeout at Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt`s House in Malibu.
MAGGIE GALLANT, PUBLIC RELATIONS GURU: What makes them prisoners of fame is they can`t go anywhere. Not a single move they make is not chronicled on camera.
ANDERSON: Public relations guru Maggie Gallant tells SHOWBIZ TONIGHT the jail doors in the prison of fame are getting tougher to breakout of.
GALLANT: We are seeing examples of extreme fame where celebrities become the prey. They are being hunted by the paparazzi. And when your children can`t leave a particular area when they can`t leave their school, when you can`t - are not free to grab a cup of coffee, you are a prisoner because the price for these photos is at an all-time high.
ANDERSON: Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt know all too well about being hunted. Wherever they travel around the world, and they do a lot of that, the paparazzi are always hot on their trail. Jolie tells SHOWBIZ TONIGHT the constant swarm of photographers made working on her film "A Mighty Heart" particularly tough.
ANGELINA JOLIE, ACTRESS: It was hardest for Brad. He was there with the kids and taking care of the kids. And they were very limited on where they could go. And it`s hard to be stuck in a tiny little place with three children and trying to entertain them for two months while mom is working. So it was difficult, and for that it made me sad when I`d see my kids kind of trapped. And I`ve been wanting them to just be able to go for walks and go meet people and do things. And it was impossible there.
JUSTIN TIMBERLAKE, POP STAR: If you live in Los Angeles and you are traveling around Hollywood, you can expect to have your picture taken at some point.
ANDERSON: Justin Timberlake is another star who knows what it`s like to be a prisoner of his own fame. Justin tells SHOWBIZ TONIGHT the paparazzi, who are almost like prison guards, sometimes go too far.
TIMBERLAKE: My thing is when things are muttered or yelled at or you feel like your space is encroached upon for the sake of getting a picture of you looking uncomfortable, that`s when I feel like it`s overstepped the lines.
ANDERSON: But SHOWBIZ TONIGHT can tell you that some feel the stars should just quit their belly aching. Radio talk show host and former child star Danny Bonaduce tells us stars who complain about the intense spotlight need to just shut up.
DANNY BONADUCE, FORMER CHILD STAR: Everybody has every right to any part of me, or them that they want, because I sold myself to you. I do it on purpose. If you want to come up on me and ask me anything, say anything you want, you have that right because I sold myself to you and you bought and I`m grateful.
ANDERSON: Bonaduce may be grateful, but what about stars like Lindsay Lohan who couldn`t even go to rehab without prying long lenses trying to get a glimpse of her. Or Britney Spears who can`t go anywhere without her paparazzi prison guards following her? But some stars actually get addicted to the prison they are in. Dr. Drew Pinsky has done extensive research on celebrities and fame.
DR. DREW PINSKY, HOST, VH1`S "CELEBRITY REHAB": It somehow rules them and runs out of control. I think it`s more of an issue of them being almost addicted to it. There`s people crawling into their lives, crawling into their personal lives, and it`s uncomfortable. It`s very uncomfortable for them. Yet, still, they tend to flirt with it and tend to miss it when it`s not there.
ANDERSON: Still, SHOWBIZ TONIGHT can tell you, stars like Britney could do a thing or two to escape their prison.
GALLANT: Celebrities can avoid by being a prisoners of fame by, number one, not going to hot spots where paparazzi are camped out every day. Number two, don`t do a reality show. Once you invite the cameras into your home to chronicle your every move, they are going to want to continue to do so. Number three, wear underwear.
PINSKY: There is no doubt in my mind that the superstars of this world could develop a normal life. But you, as the individual, must make that the priority. Not going around saving the world, not being bigger than life. Not flirting with the paparazzi but quietly living a normal, simple life.
ANDERSON: A normal, simple life, the key that could become their get out of jail free card.
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(on camera): Many huge stars are proof that it is possible to live a relatively normal life. Look at Julia Roberts, George Clooney and Denzel Washington, just to name a few. And in case you ever miss one of our showbiz special reports, we want you to know that you can also watch them on our web site. Just go to CNN.com/showbiztonight.
HAMMER: It`s time now for "Making it Work," where each week we take a look at celebrity couples who build strong relationships in Hollywood. Tonight, William Baldwin and Chynna Phillips. These two have been married for 12 years. That`s an eternity by Hollywood standards. And they have three children together. Billy Baldwin stopped by SHOWBIZ TONIGHT and I asked him how they make their marriage work. Watch this.
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WILLIAM BALDWIN, ACTOR: We are at an unfair advantage over most couples I think because and I think others have this. But we are at a special advantage because the moment I met my wife there was some sort of like chemical. And I don`t mean only like a physical sexual attraction that was a part of it. But when I first met her there was like this current traveling between the two of us.
And I remember we were together six months, a year, year and a half, I would like, you know, kiss her good night, and I give her a hug, and whisper in her ear, "Do you feel that? Do you feel that?" She`s like, "I feel it. I can still feel it." So we are playing with house money. I mean, you know, there`s something that goes on between us that makes it - perhaps makes it easier.
But still it`s a lot of work and it`s a marriage and there`s a lot of communication. And we go to therapy together and work out. And that`s like a safe haven for my life to like lay it all out on the table when there`s a referee there. Because otherwise she says quote, unquote I get all Massapequa on her. (CROSS TALK) I get all east coast on her, like, "What are you talking about." I would start gesticulating. Calm down, she says.
But lot of communication, a lot of honesty. And, you know, we both have similar like-minded principles and values. We now have a 7-year-old, a 6-year-old and a 2-year-old. It`s just going great.
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HAMMER: And you can catch William Baldwin as Patrick Darling in the great new hit TV show, "Dirty Sexy Money." All right. Hillary Swank is losing her hair. That`s right. Coming up next, why Hillary was willing to give up on her hair and on TV, no less, with none other than Oprah Winfrey wielding the scissors. SHOWBIZ TONIGHT is coming right back.
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HAMMER: Well, Hillary Swank has a new haircut, courtesy of Oprah. Hillary let Oprah cut nine inches off her hair. The Oscar-winning actress is donating her hair to Pantene Beautiful Length. They do great work. They work with the American cancer society providing free wigs to women with hair loss caused by their cancer treatments. And as it turns out, Oprah is actually pretty good with the scissors. Watch this.
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OPRAH WINFREY, HOST, "THE OPRAH WINFREY SHOW": Are you fine with this right here?
HILLARY SWANK, ACTRESS: I am.
WINFREY: OK, good. Here we go. Whoo!
SWANK: You just cut my hair. I could feel it.
WINFREY: Looks really good.
SWANK: Does it?
WINFREY: All right. Got lucky.
SWANK: Yay! Look, some woman is going to get that.
WINFREY: OK.
SWANK: Now, we`ve got to cut the other side. I want you to cut the other side and measure the other side. Should I scoot over a little?
WINFREY: No, no, no. I can do it.
SWANK: You guys should also know that, you know, you just shouldn`t have your hair bleached. You can have semi-permanent color in it. Your hair can be permed. It shouldn`t be more than 5 percent gray and that`s really it. It`s that simple, right?
WINFREY: This is nine. This is nine, right there.
SWANK: OK.
WINFREY: Here we go. Nine!
SWANK: Oh, thank you.
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HAMMER: Not bad. That`s some healthy looking hair right there. Hillary said she grew her hair for six months, took very good care of it knowing it was going to a woman in need.
ANDERSON: As we have been reporting, there has been an arrest in the scandal involving Oprah`s school for girls in South Africa. A former matron at the school has been arrested. Police say she has been accused of physical abuse against girls at the school, including soliciting them for indecent acts. The suspect will appear in court Monday.
Oprah issued a statement thanking the South African police for bringing the investigation to a timely resolution, and said she`s grateful for their compassion, sensitivity to the girls.
Yesterday, we asked you to vote on our SHOWBIZ TONIGHT question of the day. It was this - Oprah`s school scandal: Is she handling it the right way? Seventy-six percent of you say yes. Twenty-four percent of you say no. Here are some e-mails that we received.
Keith from Georgia writes, "I think Oprah is handling the crisis in the best way possible. She is taking full responsibility and not wasting any time."
Kim from Kansas writes, "If Oprah would focus on the underprivileged children in the United States, she could keep closer tabs on them."
HAMMER: Well, that is it for SHOWBIZ TONIGHT. Thanks a lot of watching. I`m A.J. Hammer in New York.
ANDERSON: And I`m Brooke Anderson in Hollywood. The latest from "CNN HEADLINE NEWS" is next. Take care.
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