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Marijuana in the Movies; Beyonce Ad Outrage; Bad Girls Gone Good; Is Miley Cyrus Growing Up Too Fast?; The Most Shocking Live TV Moments Ever; Matthew McConaughey on Being a Daddy
Aired August 08, 2008 - 23:00 ET
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BROOKE ANDERSON, HOST: Matthew McConaughey speaks out for the first time on camera since becoming a dad. And a major development in the alleged airport brawl involving "Hairspray" star, Nikki Blonsky. I`m Brooke Anderson in Hollywood. TV`s most provocative entertainment news show starts right now.
On SHOWBIZ TONIGHT, marijuana in the movies. "Pineapple Express" is the latest big screen comedy that`s all about smoking pot.
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MELISSA HENSON, PARENTS TELEVISION COUNCIL: I think there is a danger to making something that is still an illegal activity look acceptable.
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ANDERSON: Is Hollywood glorifying illegal drugs? Are these movies sending a terrible message? Tonight, SHOWBIZ TONIGHT is all over the outrage over marijuana in movies.
Where have all the bad girls gone? Paris Hilton getting accolades for her campaign spoof, Lindsay Lohan helping kids with cancer. It`s a far cry from DUIs and sex tapes. Are Hollywood bad girls taking the summer off? Tonight, SHOWBIZ TONIGHT investigates, "Bad Girls Gone Good."
And Miley Cyrus speaks out about being in love and having a serious relationship when she was 13. Tonight, is Miley growing up too fast?
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Hi, there, everyone. I`m Brooke Anderson, broadcasting tonight from Hollywood.
Tonight, Beyonce ad outrage. There`s no doubt that Beyonce is one of the most beautiful stars in the world. So why are people peeved over a photo she posed for in a L`Oreal hair color ad? Was the photo actually altered to make Beyonce`s skin look lighter and what does the cosmetic giant behind the ad have to say about this firestorm?
But first, Hollywood up in smoke? Outrage tonight over a rush of movies that seem to promote marijuana use. Critics say films like "Pineapple Express," in which pot is the main character, are sending a dangerous message. So is it true? Is Hollywood really pushing pot? And should parents be concerned? The 12-step debate making news right now.
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CHRISTIAN BALE, ACTOR: Batman has no limits.
ANDERSON (voice over): "The Dark Knight" has made a bat-load of money at theaters. But now, Batman is facing his biggest threat so far for the attention of moviegoers, something even more dangerous than The Joker.
HEATH LEDGER, ACTOR: Now, there`s the Batman.
ANDERSON: What is this new threat to "The Dark Knight`s" dominance? Marijuana?
SETH ROGEN, ACTOR: You have the easiest job on earth. You smoke all day.
ANDERSON: The new movie, "Pineapple Express," about a couple of potheads on the run aims to keep Batman from bogarting box office bucks. The stars tell SHOWBIZ TONIGHT this isn`t your normal pot movie.
JAMES FRANCO, ACTOR: They might make it more fun. But in a lot of stoner movies, I think it is a requirement that you be stoned.
ROGEN: Yes.
FRANCO: But this one, I don`t think so.
ANDERSON: SHOWBIZ TONIGHT can tell you from movies like "Pineapple Express" to TV shows like "Weeds" -
UNIDENTIFIED ACTOR: (UNINTELLIGIBLE) this stuff is primo.
ANDERSON: Characters are almost as likely to smoke weed as they are an old-fashioned tobacco cigarette. Some are high on this pot-fueled trend.
FRANCO: I think that it`s fine for people to have a laugh.
ANDERSON: Others find it a bit of a buzz kill.
HENSON: I think there`s a danger to making something that is still an illegal activity look acceptable.
ANDERSON: But no matter how you look at it, Hollywood is in the grips of a modern-day reefer madness. Ever since Cheech and Chong blazed up on screen in 1978`s "Up in Smoke" marijuana use has been an onscreen fixture. But nowadays, it`s everywhere. On HBO`s "Entourage," marijuana is the unofficial fifth member of the Hollywood crew.
UNIDENTIFIED ACTOR: Did you finish all my weed?
UNIDENTIFIED ACTOR: Not all of it.
ANDERSON: Marijuana plays a central role in the Harold and Kumar movies.
UNIDENTIFIED ACTOR: You mix a couple of gallons, an extra dose of this. People (UNINTELLIGIBLE).
ANDERSON: And pot is a frequent co-star of "Pineapple Express`" Seth Rogen who also got high in "Knocked Up." SHOWBIZ TONIGHT asked Rogen about blazing up on screen.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: How did you learn to do that?
ROGEN: Years and years and years of practice.
ANDERSON: In fact, earlier this year, Rogen and "Pineapple Express" co- star James Franco caused a bit of a stir at the MTV Movie Awards when they appeared to light up a joint on stage at the televised event.
DAN BERNATH, MARIJUANA POLICY PROJECT: 100 million Americans have tried marijuana. Most of them came out OK.
Dan Bernath of the pro-pot group, the Marijuana Policy Project, tells SHOWBIZ TONIGHT Hollywood is just reflecting reality.
BERNATH: Most people who use marijuana do so in a responsible way. That`s kind of what we`re seeing with the way it`s depicted in the media these days.
ANDERSON: And Bernath says this type of high jinx makes for a good laugh.
BERNATH: I thought "Pineapple Express" - I thought it was good.
HENSON: It`s not the kind of humor I enjoy.
ANDERSON: But Melissa Henson of the watchdog group, the Parents Television Council says there`s nothing funny about Hollywood`s pot proliferation.
HENSON: I think that`s a harmful message to be communicating to kids because it overlooks all the downsides of marijuana usage.
ANDERSON: Downside or not, Hollywood`s reefer madness has been very successful. "BoxOfficeMojo.com" reports that on its debut in theaters, "Pineapple Express" actually beat "The Dark Knight" at the box office. If this marijuana mania gets any bigger, Batman might have to adopt a new symbol.
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New stats from the World Health Organization show that the United States leads the world in marijuana use.
OK. New tonight, there is a firestorm brewing over a photo of Beyonce in an ad for L`Oreal hair color. Some are saying the makers of the ad actually lightened Beyonce`s skin just to make her appear more Caucasian. Check out this side-by-side comparison. So is there anything to this outrage?
In Hollywood, Jessica Weiner, self-esteem expert, author of "Do I Look Fat in This?" In New York, "VH1 News" host, Janelle Snowden.
Ladies, we all know that airbrushing is standard practice in advertising to make good-looking people look even more good-looking in photos. But I`ve got to say I was a little shocked when I saw Beyonce in this hair color ad. She always looks gorgeous, but her skin tone does appear a lot lighter to me than it usually does.
Janelle, what do you think is going on in this ad?
JANELLE SNOWDEN, HOST, "VH1" NEWS: Brooke, I have to tell you, I hope that I don`t get my black card revoked for saying this. But I honestly don`t get it. I don`t get what the fuss is about. Beyonce is a very fair- skinned woman. We all know this. And at times when she`s on the red carpet, she is covered in bronzers for an effect.
For this particular ad, she didn`t have on any bronzer. Her hair was lightened. And so naturally, she appears lighter. Plus, it`s shot with a white background. There`s so many different tricks that you can employ to make a person`s skin tone look different. But I don`t think that was the case in this particular ad. I think that it`s an ad for her hair color. It`s naturally lighter. And so when you put that picture next to something with her hair darker and with the bronzer on, she`s going to look darker and people might be outraged.
But in this case, I think it was more of like a blogger just kind of setting the tone for - just creating a domino effect. One blogger said, "Oh, my god, they made Beyonce white," and then the rest followed suit. I really don`t get it.
ANDERSON: You know, you`re right. It could have been lighting. It could have been lighter makeup. And I don`t think that your black card will be revoked, Janelle.
SNOWDEN: Thank you. Thank you.
ANDERSON: And L`Oreal, for their part, deny lightening Beyonce`s skin in this ad telling SHOWBIZ TONIGHT, quote, "Beyonce Knowles has been a spokesperson for the L`Oreal Paris Brand since 2001. We highly value our relationship with Ms. Knowles. It is categorically untrue that L`Oreal Paris altered Ms. Knowles` features or skin-tone in the campaign for Feria Hair Color."
Whether or not this photo was actually altered, some people have the impression that her skin is lighter. There are those online who are outraged, saying that she was whitened, she was unrecognizable. Some feel it`s sending a message that lighter is prettier somehow.
Jessica, is there something to the outrage? Do people who are upset have a point, or no?
JESSICA WEINER, SELF-ESTEEM EXPERT: Yes. No, we do have a point. I would lovingly disagree with my friend, Janelle here that the issue isn`t necessarily whether or not Beyonce was lightened in this ad. I think the issue that everybody is taking up right now is that airbrushing and retouching has become so common in ads that little girls look up to, and little girls of color look up to. And not just Africa-American girls, but girls of all different races and nationalities, all of us looking for somebody who look like ourselves in the media.
I think it continues to send a very homogenized message that beauty just looks one way, - light skin, light hair, light eyes. And certainly, we know that that`s not the majority of Americans look like. And I think there`s a bigger issue here that Beyonce in this ad is just a pawn for.
And Brooke, we talk about it all the time here, which is that, is there a double standard in beauty and is there that undue pressure. And I think in this case, Beyonce looks like a white-washed version of herself and that sends the message to the girls looking there`s only one way to be pretty.
ANDERSON: I have to say -
SNOWDEN: I have to -
ANDERSON: Go ahead, Janelle.
SNOWDEN: I don`t think we`re going to solve the age-old color dilemma among African-Americans with this one L`Oreal ad. I do agree that - sure, there is a certain stigma that black women are faced with, that white women or other women not of color are certainly not. I mean, you know, it dates back to slavery when the fair-skinned women were given preferential treatment and were able to visit the master`s house and those that were darker were out in the fields working. So that still does exist within us, absolutely. And I do agree that, you know, when airbrushing does exist - I`m not saying that it doesn`t. Sure it does. But when it does, yes, we can send the wrong message to little black children and other children -
WIENER: And we`re talking about - we do. We do -
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SNOWDEN: I don`t think Beyonce should be the scapegoat. I don`t think - and people are coming out down on her and her family saying the Knowles -
ANDERSON: Yes, definitely don`t blame Beyonce here. We know that digital manipulation is common and L`Oreal denies it. But the point is, this is bigger than that. It`s about racial identity as you both say. We will leave it there for now. Jessica Wiener, Janelle Snowden, thank you both for your insights.
All right. I know it`s summer and people are taking it easy, but does that include Hollywood`s bad girls? I mean, think about it - Paris Hilton getting praised for her video spoof. Lindsay Lohan helping out kids with cancer. I`ve got to wonder, have the bad girls gone good? Please, please. That`s coming up.
Also Miley Cyrus speaks out about being in love with Nick Jonas for two years. I did the math. I mean, she started what sounds like a serious relationship when she was just 13. Is Miley trying to grow up too fast?
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MATTHEW MCCONAUGHEY, ACTOR: Even though we went 60 hours to do what could have been done in a few hours, it was a great journey and - for both of us.
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ANDERSON: Matthew McConaughey speaks out about the birth of his baby boy. It`s Matthew`s first TV interview since he became a dad and you do not want to miss this, coming up on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT.
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Miley Cyrus sings about heartbreak in her hit song "Seven Things." And now in a new interview, Miley is spilling the beans about her real-life romance.
Welcome back so SHOWBIZ TONIGHT, TV`s most provocative entertainment news show. I`m Brooke Anderson in Hollywood.
Tonight, in a startling new interview, teenage sensation Miley Cyrus is speaking out about her two-year romance with one of the Jonas brothers. In the September issue of "Seventeen" magazine, Miley opens up about her relationship with Nick Jonas that began when she was just 13.
Miley`s admission comes on the heels of a racy cover photo of the Jonas brothers. The hit boy band posed provocatively for the cover of "Rolling Stone" magazine. There it is. There they are, posing all grown up on the August issue and the headline reads, "God, Girls, Guitars." So what`s going on here? Is this all too much to soon for these teen stars
Joining me tonight from New York, Emme, founder of "Emme Style." And in Los Angeles, Dr. Shannon Fox, psychotherapist and contributor to "MomLogic.com."
Dr. Fox, Emme, great to see you both. And talking about Miley, in the interview with "Seventeen" magazine, she says, quote - listen to this, "Nick and I loved each other. We still do, but we were in love with each other for two years. He was basically my 24/7. But it was really hard to keep it from people. We were arguing a lot and it really wasn`t fun."
Shannon, Miley was 13 when she started dating and admits he was her 24/7. Is this too much too soon?
DR. SHANNON FOX, PSYCHOTHERAPIST AND CONTRIBUTOR TO "MOMLOGIC.COM": Brooke, I think that "Too Much, Too Soon" needs to be Miley`s new theme song. I`m going to make t-shirts with Miley`s picture on it that says "too much, too soon" because it just seems to be the theme of her life these days. Thirteen to 15 - that`s way too young to have any sort of 24/7 relationship.
Where were her parents? It seems like in the olden days, parents used to say, "You can`t even date until you`re 16, let alone having a 24/7 relationship from 13 to 15." Too much, too soon.
ANDERSON: Yes. I know. I certainly wasn`t allowed to date at 13. It was several years later, and even then, it had to be group dates.
EMME, FOUNDER OF "EMME STYLE": That`s right.
ANDERSON: And we are old-fashioned, I know that. But Miley also opens up in "Seventeen" magazine about how devastated she was when they broke up saying, quote, "At first, I bawled for a month straight. I was so sad. I just went into this weird funk. And I dyed my hair black. When we were dating, Nick wanted me to get highlights and so I did that, and I got myself looking great. And then, on the day we broke up, I was like, I want to make my hair black now. I don`t want to look pretty; I want to look hard-core. I was rebelling against everything Nick wanted me to be."
Obviously, Miley experienced heartbreak. We`ve all been there. But Emme, do you think parents of her preteen fans are saying, "Poor Miley," or are they fuming about the mixed messages she could be sending from dating so young to going so far as to change her appearance to please a boy?
EMME: I think a lot of things are going on all at one time for Miley. I agree with Shannon that she is going too fast, too soon. And I think there`s so many mixed messages. My daughter was showing me how she`s going to be a rock star. She`s six. She`s going to be seven on Sunday. And her shirt was raised up underneath her chest, really high, bearing the whole belly, not even singing the words of Hannah Montana`s new song - Miley Cyrus` new song. But it was the movements, the gyration, all that type of stuff and I said, "What are you doing?" "Oh, I`m being a rock star."
So there`s this huge push. At six years old, these kids are getting the message that they have to be something older, more advanced. And I really think we need to do a shout-out to the industry that`s promoting this. We need to give Miley Cyrus a vacation, a hiatus, to take a deep, cleansing breath and say, "You know what? Let me take a look." I hope that her parents are really realizing with all this negative press coming about.
Miley is an incredible young lady. She has a great head on her shoulders. She`s going so fast that I think she`s not being mindful with the things she might be doing or saying at this point.
ANDERSON: And these messages are making it tougher for parents out there. It`s not easy, my goodness, and it shouldn`t be, but it is getting harder and harder.
And I do want to move now to Nick Jonas, her ex-boyfriend. He and his brothers posed on the cover of "Rolling Stone" magazine. Let`s take a look at that again.
They`re very sexy pictures. These guys also became famous when they were very young, trying to break out of that child star status. Nick is 15, Joe, 18, Kevin, 20.
EMME: Photography is awful. Sorry.
ANDERSON: Now, look at this cover and look at the picture, actually, too. Shannon, is it too much too soon, particularly for 15-year-old Nick Jonas? These are sexy poses.
FOX: And the tagline is terrible. Well, I think the tagline makes it almost worse than the picture. Because when you look at the picture, it looks like Nick, the 15-year-old, is in a suit and tie. Now, I used to find it sexy when my husband wears a suit and tie, but not really when a 15-year-old wears a suit and tie. The older brother is definitely in his "Come hither, I`m showing my man-cleavage" sort of picture.
ANDERSON: Yes.
FOX: But that`s really what Hollywood does, and I know that the Jonas Brothers have been very specific about wanting to be pure, wanting to be respectful of women, and Hollywood is setting them up to be sex symbol.
ANDERSON: So it seems like mixed messages creates confusion, I think, among kids and their parents. Shannon Fox, Emme, we do have to leave it there for now. We`ll continue at a later time.
EMME: Thank you.
ANDERSON: And now, we do want to hear from you at home. It`s our SHOWBIZ TONIGHT question of the day - "Miley Cyrus: Is she growing up too fast?" Vote, CNN.com/ShowbizTonight. E-mail us, showbiztonight@cnn.com.
Miley may be growing up kind of fast, but she`s got nothing on Paris and Lindsay when it comes to getting into trouble. Paris had the sex tape, the jail time. Lindsay had the rehab. But I`m wondering, are they taking the summer off? Think about it. Paris is getting accolades for her video spoof. Lindsay helping kids with cancer. Have the bad girls gone good?
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CAROLINA BERMUDEZ, SENIOR EDITOR, "IN TOUCH WEEKLY": A lot of television is so stressful, and I think it gets to a lot of people."
ANDERSON: It`s true. There`s nothing like live TV to set the stage for unexpected drama. I`m talking about Stars cursing up a storm, messing up. We`ve got it all. Straight ahead, SHOWBIZ TONIGHT presents the most shocking live TV moments ever.
And Matthew McConaughey speaks out about the birth of his baby boy. It`s Matthew`s first TV interview since he became a dad and you do not want to miss that, coming up.
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ANDERSON: (UNINTELLIGIBLE) Welcome back to SHOWBIZ TONIGHT. I`m Brooke Anderson. Here are some more stories new right now.
"Hairspray" star Nikki Blonsky`s dad will have to stay in jail a few more weeks until his assault trial starts. Carl Blonsky has been denied bail. He`s behind bars in Turk and Caicos for an alleged airport brawl involving him, Nikki, "America`s Next Top Model" contestant Bianca Golden and her mother Elaine. Elaine was actually airlifted to a hospital. Nikki is due in court for her trial in December.
Clay Aiken is a dad. Aiken`s best friend, music producer, Jaymes Foster, gave birth to a baby boy Friday morning. The two aren`t linked romantically. Foster was artificially inseminated, but they do plan to raise the child together.
And a spokeswoman for Bernie Mac says he`s responding well to treatment for pneumonia. Mac is in the hospital in Chicago and is in stable condition. Mac`s rep says he hopes to be released in the next few weeks.
All right, I know it`s summer. I know people are taking it easy, but does that include Hollywood`s bad girls? Think about it - Paris Hilton getting praised for her video spoof, Lindsay Lohan is helping out kids with cancer. I`ve got to wonder, have the bad girls gone good? Please, yes, yes, yes. That`s coming up.
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MCCONAUGHEY: Even though we went 60 hours to do what could have been done in a few hours, it was a great journey and - for both of us.
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ANDERSON: Matthew McConaughey speaks out about the birth of his baby boy. It`s Matthew`s first TV interview since he became a dad and you do not want to miss that. Still to come.
And when it comes to live TV, anything can happen, and these stars prove that point in all sorts of ways. They curse, they mess up. They curse some more.
Coming up, SHOWBIZ TONIGHT presents the most outrageous, the most shocking live TV moments ever. You don`t want to miss that.
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ANDERSON: On SHOWBIZ TONIGHT, have Hollywood`s bad girls gone good? Last summer, Paris Hilton was in the clink. Lindsay Lohan also spent time in jail and rehab. But fast forward to this summer, and it`s a totally different story. Paris is making a political ad and Lindsay is doing charity work. Have these bad girls gone good?
And this -
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MCCONAUGHEY: Even though we went 60 hours to do what could have been done in a few hours, it was a great journey and - for both of us.
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ANDERSON: Matthew McConaughey speaking out for the very first time about fatherhood and why he calls the day his son was born one part of a great journey.
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Welcome back to SHOWBIZ TONIGHT. It is 30 minutes past the hour. I`m Brooke Anderson in Hollywood. You are watching TV`s most provocative entertainment news show.
Tonight, where have all the bad girls gone? Could it be that Paris, Lindsay and even Britney have gone good? This is wonderful news.
New right now, I never thought I`d see the day but Paris Hilton`s new video parody has put Paris on our good side. Did I just say that? Also new right now, Lindsay Lohan calls into a Los Angeles Radiothon to give a young cancer patient a thrill of a lifetime. So could it be, Lindsay gone good? And Britney Spears returns to the MTV Video Music Awards. No, really - despite her train wreck performance last year, MTV is inviting her back. Dare I say, Britney`s back?
Joining me tonight in Hollywood, Jessica Weiner, self-esteem expert and author of "Do I Look Fat in This?" In New York, Janelle Snowden, news host for "VH1." And Dawn Yanek, editor-at-large for "Life and Style" magazine.
Jessica, Janelle, Dawn, I want to say that these girls have come a really long way from as one headline read, "The Bimbos of the Apocalypse."
Let`s talk about Paris Hilton. Big week for her, appearing in a hilarious campaign ad basically responding to John McCain for using her image in one of his campaign ads. Watch this.
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PARIS HILTON, CELEBRITY: Hey, America. I`m Paris Hilton and I`m a celebrity, too. Only I`m not from the olden days and I`m not promising change like that other guy. I`m just hot. But then, that wrinkly, white- haired guy used me in his campaign ad, which I guess means that I`m running for president. So thanks for the endorsement, white-haired dude. And I want America to know that I`m like, totally ready to lead.
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ANDERSON: OK. This is the same girl we watched walk out of a 45-day jail stint, the same girl we saw partying night after night after night. Paris seems to have gone from train wreck to presidential princess. Jessica, has she turned over a new leaf or is she just taking advantage maybe of a public relations bonanza?
WEINER: Paris Hilton taking advantage of PR? Are you crazy, Brooke? Listen, of course there is a motivation behind this. Let`s not be silly here. But I`ll tell you what. I was ready to vote Paris for president after watching that ad. I thought it was smart, it was funny. We have to remember when talking about all these bad girls, they are reaching into their late 20s now. And all of us have had things happen in our past - I mean, I think they`re more public about it. But I do think that there`s a chance for people to mature. And I don`t think we can look at celebrities in that black-and-white focus. I mean, there are a lot of areas of gray, or as Paris is concerned, pink.
ANDERSON: That`s right. She wants to paint the White House pink. Janelle, do you agree that Paris is maturing now on a new path or is this just a PR stunt?
SNOWDEN: I think she`s definitely maturing, and hallelujah. I think what Jessica said - I mean, unfortunately, these women are growing up in the public eye. So all of their mistakes are right out there in the forefront and we`re bearing witness to all of them. So, for her to have not been in the headlines for anything other than traveling with her boyfriend, promoting her new MTV show, now this - her new purse line, I think it`s a great thing. I say, yes, Paris. And hey, you never know, I`d say maybe she can be somebody`s VP.
ANDERSON: Maybe so. Her energy plan she pitched even got a plug on Capitol Hill. You just never know. At least it seems like a step in the right direction for Paris.
And I do want to move now to another bad girl who seems to have gone good. Lindsay Lohan, listen to this, surprised a young cancer patient named Edna by calling in during a fundraiser on an L.A. radio station, 104.3 My FM. It was an event to raise awareness for children`s hospital of Los Angeles. Listen -
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SAINT JOHN: Edna, I don`t mean to interrupt you but we have a very special phone call for you on the line right now.
EDNA, CANCER PATIENT: OK.
SAINT JOHN: And you`re on with Edna.
LINDSAY LOHAN, ACTRESS: Hello, Edna. It`s Lindsay Lohan.
EDNA: Oh, my god. Lindsay!
LOHAN: Hi! How are you?
EDNA: Good. And you?
LOHAN: I`m good. It`s nice to hear your voice.
EDNA: Nice to hear yours, too.
LOHAN: Thank you.
KERI STEELE: Lindsay Lohan`s calling you, Edna?
EDNA: Yes.
KERI STEELE: Wow. Lindsay, how did you meet Edna?
LOHAN: I actually came to visit at a children`s hospital and Edna was there and we met each other and she was very sweet.
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ANDERSON: This was so heartwarming, such a sweet moment. Lindsay also encouraged other people to donate to children`s hospital. A lot of people had written Lindsay off, though, as you all know, after her string of legal troubles, including a DUI, then her three stints in rehab. Dawn, is there hope yet for Lindsay?
DAWN YANEK, EDITOR-AT-LARGE, "LIFE AND STYLE" MAGAZINE: Oh, absolutely. I think Lindsay has learned, as Paris and Britney, that being a bad girl is so 2007. Being a good girl is where it`s at. You know what? Angelina Jolie paved the way. These ladies are realizing that they can get more attention, more press, do more with their lives and their careers if they do some good. I don`t know about you, but I was getting tears in my eyes when I listened to that.
ANDERSON: Me, too. And, you know, they`re not acting so self-absorbed. It`s really admirable.
WIENER: And also we can`t forget - you guys, too - that Lindsay was dealing with drug and alcohol addiction and being of service is a major pinnacle of recovery. So I think they`re also finding those who are dealing with this, that when they are of service to others, they`re probably going to have a better chance of staying sober.
ANDERSON: Helping themselves at the same time. It benefits everybody. You know, it was around this time last year that you couldn`t open a newspaper or turn on the television without seeing the headlines, "Lindsay in Rehab." Again, "Lindsay Arrested for DUI" and "Lindsay Passed Out in a Car."
Jessica, to that end, do you think Lindsay finally realized it was time to grow up?
WEINER: Yes. I think, to that point, she is growing up. And, listen, we have them under a microscope and we look at them with this very stereotypical view a lot of times, because we get them in news bites. But these are real, live young women who are working through issues in their life. And clearly, again, if she`s going through recovery, if she`s really working hard on herself, they end up waking up and realizing their life isn`t the only life that matters, but there`s a whole world to be of contribution for. And I think anything she does well, we should magnify just as we do the bad stuff.
ANDERSON: Yes, let`s applaud her for that. It can`t be easy to live their lives in the spotlight like they do. And one more bad girl who seems to have gone good is, of course, Britney Spears. "E! Online" reporting that Britney is returning to the MTV Video Music Awards. She reportedly filmed a promo spot for the show. Now, this is the same place where she performed like a slow-moving train wreck. Janelle, what do you think? Bad move here or genius?
SNOWDEN: I think it`s a genius move. We all remember that moment when she stepped onto the stage. I was there. My heart was racing for her like, "Please, please, please. Go, Britney. Go, Britney." And we know what happened. So, we haven`t really heard much from her since her dad has taken over her estate - or her affairs since he`s taken over her conservatorship.
So we really are kind of curious to see where she is mentally. And I think for her to go back to the sort of scene of the crime, if you will, I think it`s a beautiful thing. I think that for her to make fun of herself will endear her to everybody and we`re all rooting for her in the end. So go, Britney.
WIENER: Yes.
ANDERSON: I`m rooting for all of them. It`s commendable. Jessica, sorry.
WIENER: It`s OK.
ANDERSON: We don`t have time, but I`ll leave it there. Jessica Weiner, Janelle Snowden, Dawn Yanek, thank you all. Great talking with you.
Hollywood`s bad girls may be cleaning up their acts but some of Hollywood`s biggest stars need to wash out their mouths. Jane Fonda, Diane Keaton, Colin Farrell with me right here on CNN using blue language when the red light is on. We take a look at the most shocking live TV moments. It`s tonight showbiz special report.
And also this
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MCCONAUGHEY: Even though we went 60 hours to do what could have been done in a few hours, it was a great journey and - for both of us.
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ANDERSON: Matthew McConaughey speaking out for the very first time about being a first-time dad and about the joy of being right there when baby Levi entered the world. That`s coming up.
And Mark Consuelos and talk show host, Kelly Ripa, have been married for 12 years - an eternity by Hollywood standards. Straight ahead, Mark tells me the three little things that keep them grounded. We`re coming right back. Keep it here.
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ANDERSON: Welcome back to SHOWBIZ TONIGHT. I`m Brooke Anderson.
You know, doing live TV can be a pretty intense experience. I`ll never forget when I was at the Sundance film festival doing a live interview with Colin Farrell about his new movie and then all of a sudden, he slips in the F-bomb. I was mortified, and to be fair, so was he. But Colin Farrell isn`t the only one to do something shocking on live TV. Even stars like Jane Fonda and Diane Keaton have had their, "Oops, I said what?" moments on live TV. It`s our showbiz special report, the most shocking live TV moments ever.
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ANDERSON: Live television can be a shocking ride.
COLIN FARRELL, ACTOR: (EXPLETIVE DELETED). That`s Irish.
ANDERSON: Especially when the unexpected happens, when stars suddenly slip up right before our eyes.
PAULA ABDUL, JUDGE, "AMERICAN IDOL": The second song - I felt like your usual charm left you. It was missing for me. It kind of left me a little empty.
ANDERSON: SHOWBIZ TONIGHT has to ask, what is it about live TV that seems to get even the most polished stars into big trouble.
BERMUDEZ: Live television is so stressful and I think it gets to a lot of people.
ANDERSON: SHOWBIZ TONIGHT can tell you there are more shocking live TV moments than we can count. And no one is immune to the danger of live TV. Legendary actress Diane Keaton proved that after dropping the F-bomb during a live interview with veteran TV journalist, Diane Sawyer.
DIANE KEATON, ACTRESS: I`d like to have lips like that. Then I wouldn`t have worked on my (EXPLETIVE DELETED) personality -
BERMUDEZ: She recoiled in horror after Diane Keaton said that. She almost flipped her chair.
ANDERSON: But Sawyer regained her composure and offered Keaton a word of caution from her own mother.
DIANE SAWYER, HOST, "GOOD MORNING AMERICA": My mother`s going to work on your personality with soap in your mouth. That`s what she`s going to do.
KEATON: Soap in your mouth. I know. Excuse me. I shouldn`t have said anything like that.
GABE LIEDMAN, COMEDIAN: She (UNINTELLIGIBLE) but she talks like a sailor.
JENNY SLATE, COMEDIAN: Yes.
SNOWDEN: She`s human. She said the F-word. Everybody does it. Live with it. It was funny.
ANDERSON: A funny formula that repeated itself on NBC`s "Today" show with another acting legend. This time it was Jane Fonda who let her mouth get ahead of her. While promoting "The Vagina Monologues," Fonda suddenly slipped in a tawdry way.
JANE FONDA, ACTRESS: I live in Georgia. I was asked to do a monologue called the (EXPLETIVE DELETED).
ANDERSON: Say what?
FONDA: I was asked to do a monologue called the (EXPLETIVE DELETED).
BERMUDEZ: And Meredith Vieira is so stunned -
SNOWDEN: OK. Hello, Jane, it`s really early. People are still drinking coffee. This one is really great. Probably not the best time to use the C-word. No, I don`t think it`s a good a idea.
SLATE: I think that Jane Fonda`s exercise tapes might have been a lot more successful or at least more useful if she was like, "And stretch out our biceps and point your - see you next Tuesday to the stars.
ANDERSON: And SHOWBIZ TONIGHT`s shocking live TV moments would not be complete without a flub or two from "American Idol`s" Paula Abdul.
ABDUL: Check the song -
ANDERSON: It`s not unusual for Paula to come on unglued but even she topped herself this time after critiquing a contestant`s song even though he hadn`t performed it yet.
ABDUL: I felt like your usual charm left you. It was missing for me. It kind of left me a little empty.
BERMUDEZ: It`s typical Paula loopy behavior. You have to wonder what`s in that Coke glass.
SNOWDEN: OK. Hello, earth to Paula. Where were you?
LIEDMAN: She got really far into her little speech ...
SLATE: Oh, yes.
LIEDMAN: ... before anyone was like, "Wait, wait, wait. Paula - "
ANDERSON: And Ashlee Simpson is probably glad she didn`t have to face the "American Idol" judges after her botched performance on "Saturday Night Live."
SLATE: This was very embarrassing.
LIED: Yes. Milli Vanilli had the decency to like, split when they got busted for lip syncing. They were just like, the jig`s up, boom! But she was like, the jig is that bad?
SLATE: She`s like, the jig is literally up.
ANDERSON: At least Ashlee knew she was on live TV. New York newswoman Sue Simmons got caught in TV`s worst trap ever. She didn`t realize her mike was on.
SUE SIMMONS, NEW YORK NEWSMAN: What the (EXPLETIVE DELETED) are you doing?
LIEDMAN: What was so funny was that there`s that like, boat on screen when it all went down.
SLATE: Yes.
LIEDMAN: And when I first saw it, I was like, is she like, mad at where the boat is parking in the river, or something?
BERMUDEZ: Sue Simmons is a well-respected broadcaster in New York City. She`s a staple. She`s going on about a story and there`s this random boat that comes up and instead of saying, "Hey, wrong footage, she said -
SIMMONS: What the (EXPLETIVE DELETED) are you doing?
ANDERSON: Colin Farrell thought he knew what he was doing until he accidentally let one slip while talking to me live on CNN.
FARRELL: (EXPLETIVE DELETED). That is Irish.
ANDERSON: Well, at least he said he was sorry.
FARRELL: (EXPLETIVE DELETED)
ANDERSON (on camera): Oh, my goodness!
(voice over): Ah, well. We forgive him. After all, as we`ve seen time and time again, even the most seasoned professionals can get caught off guard on live TV.
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ANDERSON: Oh, Colin. Well, for the record, he did feel really, really badly. He said that during my interview on live TV and apologized for it quite a few times after we were off the air.
All right. Tonight, Matthew McConaughey speaking out like never before about fatherhood. In July, McConaughey and his girlfriend, Camilla Alves, had their first child, son Levi Alves McConaughey. Now, in an exclusive TV interview with CNN chief medical correspondent, Sanjay Gupta, McConaughey opens up about the dramatic day his son was born and his unique plans for the future.
I caught up with Sanjay and he gave me the scoop on this big interview.
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ANDERSON (on camera): Sanjay, thanks for talking with us tonight. We really appreciate it. And hey, everybody wanted to talk to Matthew McConaughey, especially after his baby was born. How did you score that exclusive TV interview? You`re friends with him, right?
DR. SANJAY GUPTA, CNN CHIEF MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT: Yes. I mean, you know, I wish I could tell you, Brooke, I was the intrepid reporter constantly knocking on his door. But, you know, Matthew is friend of mine, and we`ve talked a lot about fatherhood after the birth of my daughters and when Levi was born and around the time Camila got pregnant. We talked about it. And I said, "Let`s come on the show and talk about how this whole - the delivery went and how the baby is doing." And he agreed to do that.
ANDERSON: Well, it`s great that you were able to sit down with him so that he could share his experiences. And he talked about how having a child has really strengthened his relationship with his girlfriend, Camila Alves. Let`s listen to what Matthew told you about Levi`s birthday.
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MCCONAUGHEY: It went down perfectly. And even though we went 60 hours to do what could have been done in a few hours, it was a great journey and - for both of us. And her and I now have gone through something - we call it the best dance we`ve ever had.
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ANDERSON: Wow, is what I have to say personally - 60 hours of labor. Sanjay, what really strikes me is how passionate Matthew is about this. Is that just his nature with everything he does or has this experience really changed him?
GUPTA: I think that`s Matthew, what you`re seeing there. And you know, I`ve known him for a little bit here. But he approaches most of his life that way. You may know his motto is, "Just keep living," JKL - so we call him. And I think that`s sort of how he approaches everything. But I think with regard to Camila in particular and this delivery, I mean, it was such anticipation for him and he obviously -
You know, he told me he was deejaying Brazilian music the entire time he was in the delivery room, playing the bongo, trying to get into the rhythm of things. That`s Matthew.
ANDERSON: Yes. It sounds like it was a party. And he does just live life to the fullest. You`ve got to love that. And one thing that really impressed me was his candor. He even admitted that they kept the placenta. Listen to what he told you about that.
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MCCONAUGHEY: In Australia, they had a placenta tree. It was on the river that was for the women and it was the most fertile land and fertile river. And all of the placenta of all that tribe, all that clan - whatever aborigine tribe that was, all the placenta went in this one tree and it was this huge, behemoth of just health and strength.
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ANDERSON: Sounds amazing. But Sanjay, a lot of people have joked that Matthew is a little eccentric. Is this just a little bit out there? I know it is a cultural thing as well. Or is it just rare because he`s actually talking about doing that?
GUPTA: Well, you know, I think it is cultural more than anything else. I think people in this country have not heard about this as much. And there are some cultures who believe the placenta is the kernel of growth, the genesis of fertility, something treasured and revered and it can help your crops grow and it can help the trees grow as Matthew was talking about there.
But it`s something that is treasured to some extent. So you`re right. You know, I think, we`ve actually got a lot of notes about that after he said that. And it`s not something as widely done in this country. But in other countries, and maybe even in Brazil where Camila is from, it might be something there. He learned about it in Australia.
ANDERSON: Yes. Sounds like a wonderful ritual. Well, we wish them the best. Dr. Sanjay Gupta. Thanks so much for sharing your interview with us.
GUPTA: Thanks, Brooke. Any time.
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And be sure to catch "HOUSE CALL WITH DR. SANJAY GUPTA" on CNN every Saturday and Sunday, 8:30 a.m.
And Mark Consuelos and talk show host Kelly Ripa have three kids, so they know all about that baby love. But how does one of Hollywood`s most recognizable couples make it work with all the pressures of Hollywood? Mark opens up about the secret to having it all, next.
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ANDERSON: Hey, welcome back to SHOWBIZ TONIGHT. It is time now for "Making It Work." Now, this is where we take a look at stars who manage to build strong relationships under the white hot glare of the spotlight.
Tonight, Mark Consuelos. Mark and wife, talk show host Kelly Ripa, juggle three kids, two careers and one hectic life in New York City. It makes me tired just thinking about it. I spoke to Mark recently and he told me that old-fashioned values are a big part of making it work.
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MARK CONSUELOS, ACTOR: We`re very much hands-on parents. You know, Kelly is extremely hands-on. And you know what? We are kind of old-fashioned that way. You know, our parents are still together. Her parents are still together. We grew up in small towns. And it`s kind of like the values that both have in common, you know.
And we kind of laugh when people ask us about our schedules, "They`re so crazy and you`re working and it`s - how do you manage it?" It`s like, you know, there are people that, you know, their mothers raising kids with, you know, the fathers in Iraq or single mothers - they`re just raising kids with two jobs. I mean, to me, that`s extraordinary.
What we do is - we`re very fortunate. You know, I wouldn`t trade anybody`s place with mine right now. I`m really, really happy. Having three kids at home keeps things really, really kind of grounded, you know? I`m glad we have those kids. They keep it really real for us.
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ANDERSON: Don`t forget to tune in to the Hallmark Channel on August 30th to catch Mark in "For the Love of Grace." And Mark also has a guest spot on the hit show "Ugly Betty," so check that out in the fall.
On Thursday, we asked you to vote on our SHOWBIZ TONIGHT question of the day - "Paris` Campaign Spoof: Was it her best performance ever?" Seventy-nine of you say yes; 21 percent of you say no.
Some E-mails we received - Brenda from Nevada writes, "I`m sick of Paris Hilton. `Ms. No Talent` needs to go home to her mega bucks and stay there." Harsh, Brenda.
Dean from California says, "This is her best clothed (well, almost) performance to date."
ANDERSON: That is a wrap for SHOWBIZ TONIGHT. Thank you so much for watching. I`m Brooke Anderson in Hollywood. And remember, you can always catch SHOWBIZ TONIGHT on the 11:00s - 11:00 p.m. Eastern, 11:00 p.m. Pacific, and in the morning, 11:00 a.m. Eastern. The latest from "CNN HEADLINE NEWS" is next. Take care.
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