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Brad Pitt on Oprah; TMI from Brangelina?; The Sexiest Man Alive; Britney Spears` Startling Confession; Obama`s Puppy Watch; Rahm Emanuel`s Connection to West Wing and Entourage; Ashlee Dupree Speaks Out
Aired November 19, 2008 - 23:00 ET
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A.J. HAMMER, HOST: Now, on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT - now, it`s Brad`s turn. Tonight, Brad Pitt tells all to Oprah the week after Jennifer Aniston talked to Oprah about Angelina Jolie. Did Oprah grill Brad about Aniston calling Jolie un-cool?
Plus, Brad reveals secrets of his home life with Angelina Jolie and their six kids. The car trips, the diapers, plus Jolie`s plain talk about breastfeeding. Tonight, SHOWBIZ TONIGHT dares to ask, is all this TMI?
Britney Spears` brand-new startling confessions. Tonight, why Britney says her life right now is worse than being in jail. But why is the way she`s now acting in public so different from her private pain?
Plus, the SHOWBIZ Obama puppy watch. Oh, no, the Obamas aren`t picking their puppy for a while. So tonight, SHOWBIZ TONIGHT with the fascinating new, true Hollywood dog stories you have got to see.
TV`s most provocative entertainment news show starts right now.
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Hello. I`m A.J. Hammer, broadcasting tonight and every night from New York City. And this is a big night filled with true confessions. Tonight, true confessions, Britney Spears` startling new words - why she says her life right now can be worse than jail.
And the unhappy hooker, Ashley Dupre, seen here in photos obtained by "Us Weekly" is speaking out and telling all about the scandal that brought down New York`s governor. We`ve got all that coming up.
But first, Brad Pitt`s confessions about life with Angelina Jolie and their six kids. In an absolutely extraordinary interview with Oprah Winfrey that aired today, Brad totally opens up about what their life is like right down to the dirty diapers.
And at the very same time, Angelina`s revealing intimate details about her struggles with breastfeeding. And it`s all making big news right now.
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(voice over): Both Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie have movies to promote.
OPRAH WINFREY, HOST, "THE OPRAH WINFREY SHOW": Brad Pitt is here.
(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)
HAMMER: But as Brad appears on the "The Oprah Winfrey Show" and Angelina makes the media rounds herself, their movies are being overshadowed by other pressing matters like car seats -
BRAD PITT, ACTOR: It`s like a half hour to get everyone buckled in -
HAMMER: Breastfeeding -
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Are you still feeding?
ANGELINA JOLIE, ACTRESS: No, I stopped at three months.
HAMMER: And the intangible joys of superstar parenthood.
JOLIE: We`re trying to get ready for some event where we have to walk with confidence, and somebody gets peed on.
HAMMER: SHOWBIZ TONIGHT can tell you one of the most glamorous couples in the world are now giving us all the dirty details - and we do mean dirty.
PITT: I`m impervious to poo, snot, urine, vomit. I am -
WINFREY: Impervious to poo?
PITT: You can`t get me. You cannot break me down.
HAMMER: About the chaotic life with the Jolie-Pitt bunch, the couple`s six kids..
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: My question is, has Brad the dad, ever been left alone with all six of them?
PITT: Four is usually my limit on my own so far. I hope to advance to six.
HAMMER: Pitt appeared on the "The Oprah Winfrey Show" along with Cate Blanchett who co-stars with him in the upcoming new movie, "The Curious Case of Benjamin Button."
WINFREY: Who is the disciplinarian?
HAMMER: Pitt fielded questions from Oprah and viewers about how he and Jolie deal with the kids who range in age from four months to seven years.
PITT: Of course, the girls do no wrong.
WINFREY: Yes, of course. Never.
PITT: But the boys, I have to pull them every now and then. We have the time-out chair.
WINFREY: There is literally a chair?
PITT: Yes.
CATE BLANCHETT, ACTRESS: That you sit on all the time?
(LAUGHTER)
PITT: Because I end up in it.
HAMMER: As Brad revealed all to Oprah, Angelina went on a TV show in Britain to talk about the difficulties she had breastfeeding her infant twins.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE TV HOST: So it must have been tricky with twins.
JOLIE: It`s very hard. It`s very hard. You know, you look at the books and you see that there`s this like - oh, it`s football hold. And you think, "If I can do that, anybody can do that." You know, it`s a lot harder than it looks.
HAMMER: And Jolie even revealed how she and Pitt conceived their brand-new twins while she was filming her latest movie, "The Changeling."
JOLIE: We decided to start trying in the beginning and by the end I was. (UNINTELLIGIBLE) I was.
(in "Changeling"): People don`t change.
HAMMER: Pitt and Jolie`s musings on parenthood aired just days after Brad`s ex-wife, Jennifer Aniston, appeared on the "The Oprah Winfrey Show."
WINFREY: You did say, "What Angelina did was very un-cool."
HAMMER: Aniston had to explain the flap she`d unleashed when she called Angelina Jolie "un-cool" for publicly discussing how Jolie got close to Pitt while he was still married to Aniston. The former "Friends" star tried to downplay what she said about Jolie in that interview with "Vogue."
JENNIFER ANISTON, ACTRESS: He asked me a question and I basically just answered it as honestly as I could. You know, I don`t go there. You know what I mean?
WINFREY: Yes. Yes.
ANISTON: It`s 100 years old for christ`s sake.
HAMMER: Of course, Aniston`s comments touched off a high-profile rehash of the controversial way Jolie and Pitt got together. Now, Pitt`s appearance on Oprah was taped before Aniston`s so there was no mention of them. Instead, Pitt and Jolie are reminding us that the glamorous controversial lovers of old have morphed into very busy parents of now.
JOLIE: We were trying to get ready for some event where we have to walk a carpet and somebody gets peed on.
HAMMER: Such is life with the Jolie-Pitt bunch.
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HAMMER: So Brad and Angelina are talking openly about breastfeeding, kids vomiting and extremely dirty diapers. Is it me or is this all just a bit of too much information? Coming up, I`ve got to ask, TMI? It`s a fired-up debate.
Well now, from Brad to Britney`s startling true confessions. Britney Spears is confessing her very private pain and what her life has been like since she shaved her head and checked in and out of the psych ward.
Get this, Britney says her new life is worse than jail. Tonight, we have brand-new details about what Britney says in the upcoming MTV documentary called "Britney for the Record."
Joining me tonight in New York is Carolina Bermudez who is a senior editor for "In Touch Weekly." Also in New York, it`s Lisa Bloom who`s the host of "Lisa Bloom: Open Court" and an "In Session" anchor.
Well, as we know, Britney`s estate is under the control of her dad. A court controls when she can see her kids. And now "People.com" reports that Britney says in the documentary, her life is, in effect, worse than being in jail.
Listen to what she says, quote, "I have really good days, and then I have bad days. Even when you go to jail, you know, there`s the time when you`re going to get out. But in this situation, it`s never-ending. It`s just like `Groundhog Day.` I`m having to pay for it for a really long time."
Carolina, why do you think Britney is painting such a bleak picture of her life right now? I mean, what we have seen from her lately has really been so positive.
CAROLINA BERMUDEZ, SENIOR EDITOR, "IN TOUCH WEEKLY": Because she`s bored, A.J. She`s not allowed to go out gallivanting around Hollywood with her other friends like she did before. Now, she has structure. She has discipline. She has somebody that`s looking over her and that cares for her.
And she`s still a 26-year-old woman. I mean, she still wants to go out and have a good time. But she`s not realizing that she has a mental illness and she needs that help. She needs somebody to keep her in line.
HAMMER: I do need to point out, you know, Britney has never confirmed that she has a mental illness. And that said, Britney does say, as I mentioned a moment ago, not all is bad. She has her good days. And in the documentary, she actually confesses that dancing has been her form of therapy. Watch this.
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BRITNEY SPEARS, POP STAR: If I have a lot of nervous energy, you know, when I start dancing, it all goes away and I just feel emotion. It`s like a rollercoaster, you know. People think that you go through something in your life and you need to go to therapy. For me, art is therapy because it`s like you`re expressing yourself in such a spiritual way.
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HAMMER: See, I hear that and I see that and I think that`s a good thing. Because, Lisa Bloom, it seems to me Britney`s acknowledging she does need something to get her through what are some still pretty tough times.
LISA BLOOM, HOST, "LISA BLOOM: OPEN COURT": Yes, and it`s great to hear that she`s working out her issues through dance, a very healthy, physical way to do it. Not from the drinking and the drugs and the partying like we used to hear.
We all need a healthy outlet. I mean, for me, it`s talking to you, A.J. You know, we all need something. We all need something. And this is what she`s got.
But what she doesn`t seem to understand is - it`s still all about Britney. You know, she`s always talking about herself and being general in her issues. We don`t hear about her kids and what she needs to do to get there for the sake of her kids. She still seems awfully self-centered to me.
HAMMER: Well, two things here that I need to point out. One, Lisa Bloom, I`m here to help in any way possible (UNINTELLIGIBLE). I`m glad I could be of assistance.
But also, in the documentary, we actually will see Britney speaking about other elements of her life. And actually, I want to play something for you that I thought was very surprising. I thought it was one of her biggest confessions. She`s incredibly blunt in the documentary. About her marriage to Kevin Federline and the reality of what it was once it settled in. Watch what she says in the MTV doc.
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SPEARS: I think I married for the wrong reasons. Instead of following my heart and like, doing what made me really happy, I just did it for the sake of the idea and everything.
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HAMMER: What do you think, Carolina? Are you with me? I mean, we`ve never heard Britney be so blunt about her regretting marrying K-Fed. Are you surprised that she came so clean?
BERMUDEZ: I am surprised because throughout the whole relationship, Britney defended Kevin. She defended about what a great father he was, what a great partner he was. But here, she`s saying, "I made a mistake." And what she was looking for at that time was stability. That`s really what she`s she was looking for and she`s going to admit that now.
HAMMER: Yes, Lisa, this really stands in stark contrast to the types of things we heard from Britney about her marriage to K-Fed before it fell apart.
BLOOM: Yes, and I think it`s a little bit of revision of history on her part. Look, he`s handsome guy. He`s a dancer. I`m sure he charmed her and I`m sure she was in love with him. It didn`t work out. What Britney needs to do now is move forward and think about her kids and what she needs to do to get herself in line so she can have more time with the kids. She should be more forward-looking, I think.
HAMMER: Well, maybe that`s what is happening here. Maybe she`s trying to put it in her past. And what do you think? By talking so publicly about what has gone on before, do you think, Carolina, that maybe Britney`s almost, you know - I don`t know - purging herself and going through a healing process here?
BERMUDEZ: It could be. I mean, we`re seeing her on an upswing right now and that`s a good thing. We want to see her succeed. You know, she has all of these great projects ahead of her. So this is great that she`s maybe putting the past behind her.
But she also needs to accept the accountability, the fact that she hasn`t been a great mother. And I agree with Lisa. She needs to address that. She needs to say, "Hey, I`m fixing myself as a performer. But I`m also fixing my family."
HAMMER: Yes. And we continue to wish her well, of course. Carolina Bermudez, Lisa Bloom, thanks for being here, guys.
Well, Brad Pitt has been named and voted sexiest man alive by "People" magazine in the past. But is he going to claim that title again this year? Could it happen for the third time?
Coming up next, we reveal who the sexiest man alive is, something that I know a lot of people have been waiting all year for. And it is next.
Also tonight, true confessions. The hooker who brought down former New York Governor Eliot Spitzer is speaking out for the very first time. Did she even now how important Spitzer - Client number 9 - was? And would she ever sell her body again? That is coming up.
And so is the SHOWBIZ Obama puppy watch.
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JEANNE MOOS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Now, if we`re going to have to wait for months for this White House dog, we need a puppy fix right now. And here it is - Puppy Nanny Cam.
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HAMMER: So many people just devastated. The Obamas have put their puppy- picking on hold. So tonight, we`ve got the amazing new Hollywood dog stories you`ve got to see right now.
The SHOWBIZ news ticker. More stories from the SHOWBIZ TONIGHT newsroom making news right now -
(CAPTION READS: Heather Mills files complaints against four British newspapers. Suri Cruise is number one on Forbes list of "Hollywood`s 10 hottest tots.)
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HAMMER: Well, the wait is finally over. Yes, "People" magazine today named this man, Hugh Jackman, the sexiest man alive.
Welcome back to SHOWBIZ TONIGHT. I am A.J. Hammer in New York. Tonight, Hollywood`s A-list is bringing sexy back big-time. Now, you know the sexiest man alive is Hugh Jackman, but how did Hugh Jackman beat out the likes of George Clooney and Brad Pitt? Was it his Wolverine looks, his fit physique or his downright friendly Aussie personality?
And did George and Brad get an honorable mention this year? Well, it`s all in this special edition of "People" magazine.
And joining me tonight in New York with the inside scoop, Galina Espinosa is the senior editor of "People" magazine.
All right, Galina. Let`s get into it. Hugh Jackman, according to "People" magazine, the sexiest man alive for 2008. Simple question, why?
GALINA ESPINOSA, SENIOR EDITOR, "PEOPLE" MAGAZINE: Well, A.J., if you have ever seen Hugh without his shirt on, that is all the answer you need. This guy has one of the hottest bodies in Hollywood.
But we also point out that he`s a hard body with a soft center. He`s incredibly romantic and loyal and passionate. He has that down-to-earth Aussie vibe. And when you mix the ruggedness with the romance, it`s a pretty irresistible combination.
HAMMER: All right. And I`ve got to tell you the few times that I`ve interacted with Hugh Jackman, I found him very humble, as you say, and just a real nice, stand-up, earthy, grounded kind of guy.
ESPINOSA: Just note that he`s been married to the same woman for 12 years, which in Hollywood is like 80 years.
HAMMER: It`s at least 80 years. And you know, he`s already talking about being named the sexiest man alive. He was on "Good Morning America" this morning. Watch how he reacted.
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HUGH JACKMAN, ACTOR: Definitely unreal. It feels kind of bizarre in the way that I suppose you sort of have a laugh and just let it go. You know, in Australia, you`re going to be made fun of for the next 20 years, as well as the fact that, let`s face it, in the next 20 years, everything`s downhill.
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HAMMER: All right. Now, Galina, just a moment ago, you made it sound like this was kind of a no-brainer. But was there a close second to being named sexiest man alive this year?
ESPINOSA: Well, every year there are at least a dozen guys in the mix. We just felt that Hugh was having such a big moment right now with "Australia" about to take the world by storm, the classic Hollywood epic. He`s the romantic leading man. That gave him a clear edge.
But certainly a lot of your old favorites are in this issue - George Clooney, Brad Pitt, Matthew McConaughey. We`ve also got a lot of up-and- comers. We have a whole group of guys who have just turned 21 -Zach Efron, Ed Westwick. We expect those guys to be the faces of the future.
HAMMER: All right. Well, let`s talk about a few of those honorable mentions that you just mentioned, some of the big faces from the past.
You mentioned Brad Pitt. Now, Brad was first named sexiest man alive - I can`t believe this - 13 years ago, all he way back in 1995. He got the big prize again in 2000.
Galina, Brad remains on this list for very different reasons now than the ones that originally put him on this, doesn`t he?
ESPINOSA: Yes, we have really seen him grow up. I mean, when we first put him on the cover, it was right around the time "Legends of the Fall" came out. And that was the movie that really established him as the romantic leading man.
Well, fast-forward 13 years later, he`s got six kids. He`s a devoted father. He`s really matured. He`s become this incredible humanitarian. It`s really been wonderful to see his evolution. And I think that that`s we`re really celebrating right now.
HAMMER: And real quickly, George Clooney, Brad`s buddy, still on the list. He`s a two-time sexiest man alive. And it`s not just about George`s looks, right?
ESPINOSA: Yes. I think George is going to be on the list until he`s 60, like Sean Connery, who has been our oldest sexiest man alive. And it`s because who can resist that twinkle in his eye. I mean, gosh, the man makes everything look good.
HAMMER: You know George - right now, he`s at home watching and saying, "Do you mean they`re going to kick me after I`m 60?" Got to wrap it there. Galina Espinosa, thanks so much for being here tonight.
And the "Sexiest Man Alive" issue of "People" magazine will be on newsstands Friday. So go grab it.
All right. So what do you think? Did "People" get it right this year? It is our SHOWBIZ TONIGHT question of the day - "Hugh Jackman, is he the sexiest man alive?" Let us know what you think at CNN.com/ShowbizTonight. You got more to say? Well, E-mail us your thoughts at showbiztonight@cnn.com.
Well, I think Jennifer Aniston and Angelina Jolie obviously both pretty easy on the eyes, right? But people are really taking sides here when we asked who is the bigger star. Our "Showbiz On Call" phone lines went nuclear. Liz calling in from Texas is all Angelina, all the time.
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LIZ, CALLER FROM TEXAS: Angelina has so much range with her acting. So that`s not even a competition.
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HAMMER: But oh no, Sandy calling in from Ohio says, no way.
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SANDY, CALLER FROM OHIO: Jennifer Aniston is 10 times better lady than Angelina Jolie. I just think that she handles her life much better. She`s more elegant, more private.
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HAMMER: Now, please keep in mind you, too, can call us here at "Showbiz On Call." That way, you can let us know what you think about this. Or if there`s something else on your mind, we want to know that, too. The "Showbiz On Call" phone lines, always open for you, 1-888-SBT-BUZZ; 1-888- 728-2899. Leave us a voicemail. We`re playing your calls right here on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT.
And your calls to "Showbiz On Call" are also now online right there on our homepage. Just surf on over to CNN.com/ShowbizTonight.
All right. So things may be getting a little out of hand with all this Brangelina stuff. Today, Brad Pitt goes on "Oprah" and reveals some very personal things, their road trips with the kids, the tales about dirty diapers. Yes.
And then there`s Angelina Jolie who`s talking about breastfeeding two of their six kids at the same time. Is all of this too much information - TMI? We`ve got that coming up.
Also, you`ve got to hear Meredith Vieira opening up about Katie Couric. Of course, she took over for Katie on "Today." But does she think Katie`s doing a good job on the "CBS Evening News?" That is next.
Also, the latest in the SHOWBIZ Obama puppy watch.
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MOOS: Now, if we`re going to have to wait for months for this White House dog, we need a puppy fix right now. And here it is, Puppy Nanny Cam.
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HAMMER: Yes. You know, since they`re not picking a dog for a while, you need to get your Hollywood puppy fix right here on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT. The amazing new doggy stories everyone is talking about.
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HAMMER: Welcome back to SHOWBIZ TONIGHT. I`m A.J. Hammer. Here are some more stories that are new right now. Tonight, Chuck Norris is throwing himself right into the middle of the fight to legalize gay marriage.
Norris is outraged by the way some people in California are reacting to the passage of Proposition 8 which, of course, bans same-sex marriage.
Listen to his rant on "TownHall.com, Chuck Norris saying, quote, "Bitter activists simply cannot accept the outcome as being truly reflective of the general public. Like it or not, it`s the law now. The people have spoken."
Also new right now, Meredith Vieira says she feels for the woman she replaced on the "Today" show, Katie Couric. Here`s what Meredith tells "More" magazine about Katie anchor the "CBS Evening News," quote, "She walked into a show that was in third place, and to suggest that you could turn it around, I don`t know that anybody could do that. Katie is incredibly talented and if the evening news doesn`t work out, I don`t think anybody could say she doesn`t have the goods."
And tonight, Beyonce is speaking out about that hysterical "Saturday Night Live" Justin Timberlake-led spoof of her brand-new music video, "Single Ladies." Now, first take a look at the real deal, Beyonce`s red- hot video.
("SINGLE LADIES" MUSIC VIDEO)
All right. Now, you`ve got to take a look at J.T., along with Andy Samberg and Bobby Moynihan from "SNL" with Beyonce on "Saturday Night Live."
(VIDEO OF "SATURDAY NIGHT LIVE" SPOOF OF "SINGLE LADIES")
Man, that`s funny. Well, you`ve got to listen to Beyonce on Ed Lover`s radio show on Power 105.1 when they asked her about that spoof -
BEYONCE KNOWLES, SINGER: I still can`t believe he did that.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He did a good job.
KNOWLES: It was incredible. Right. By the way, we rehearsed it two times and he picked up the choreography. I know he was joking.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He was watching that video, girl.
KNOWLES: But it was amazing. He`s like has this photographic memory. Because I know the crazy thing is he could probably kill it if he wanted to, not the feminine stuff. But he`s so talented and so naturally funny.
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HAMMER: No question about that. J.T. is really talented. And by the way, Beyonce says she did the real "Single Ladies" music video with all that dancing in just one take. Talk about talent.
All right. So Brad Pitt goes on "Oprah" and reveals some very personal stuff about his home life with Angelina Jolie - how they raise their kids, dirty diapers and all. And now, Angelina in graphic detail, talking about breastfeeding two of their kids at the same time. I don`t know - is all this too much information - TMI? We`ve got that coming up next.
Also tonight, the hooker who brought down New York`s governor is finally speaking out. Would she actually sell her body again? We`ve got that on the way.
And this -
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MOOS: Now, if we`re going to have to wait for months for this White House dog, we need a puppy fix right now. And here it is, Puppy Nanny Cam.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
HAMMER: It`s the Obama puppy watch. Now that the Obamas aren`t picking their puppy for a while, get your doggy fix right here on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT. Brand-new Hollywood dog stories are coming up. And SHOWBIZ TONIGHT is coming right back.
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HAMMER: Now, on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT, Brad Pitt tells all to Oprah. He reveals secrets of his home life with Angelina Jolie and their six kids. The car trips, the dirty diapers.
Plus, Angelina opens up about breastfeeding two of her kids at the same time. Oh, boy! Tonight, SHOWBIZ TONIGHT dares to ask, is all this too much Brangelina information?
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MOOS: Now, if we`re going to have to wait for months for this White House dog, we need a puppy fix right now. And here it is, Puppy Nanny Cam.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
HAMMER: The SHOWBIZ Obama puppy watch. Oh no, the Obamas aren`t picking their puppy out for a while. So tonight, SHOWBIZ TONIGHT has the fascinating new, true Hollywood dog stories you have got to see.
TV`s most provocative entertainment news show continues right now.
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Welcome back to SHOWBIZ TONIGHT. It`s 30 minutes past the hour. I`m A.J. Hammer, broadcasting tonight and every night from New York City.
Tonight, look who`s talking. Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie, once the most private couple in Hollywood are now dishing big-time about their private lives, from dirty diaper detail to talking about breastfeeding and Angelina`s two kids.
You know, we`re getting way more information about the inner workings of team Brangelina than we ever banked on. Tonight SHOWBIZ TONIGHT is asking, Brad and Angelina, TMI?
Joining me tonight in New York, Carolina Bermudez who is a senior editor of "In Touch Weekly.: Also tonight in New York is Lisa Bloom who is the host of "Lisa Bloom: Open Court" and an "In Session" anchor.
OK. You`ve got to admit, it seems like there is and has always been an insatiable appetite for any news that has anything to do with Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie. We can`t get enough of it.
That is, until you start hearing Brad Pitt talking about dirty diapers and even worse. Brad, of course, making his big appearance on "The Oprah Winfrey Show" today. You`ve got to get a load of what he told her about life with his kids.
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WINFREY: How has it really changed you? Being a dad?
PITT: First of all, I`m hard as nails. I`m impervious to poo, snot, urine, vomit. In the beginning it was like, "Oh god. How do they vomit that much?"
And then, you know, now it`s just like, "Honey, come here. Do you see that? Do you see that? You need to chew your food. Look at that. Look at that. That`s half a hotdog. You`ve got to chew your food. You`ll make yourself - look."
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HAMMER: All right. Carolina, let`s begin with you. What do you think? Is that a charming daddy anecdote or is it really just TMI from Brad?
BERMUDEZ: Well, it sounds nasty but when it comes out of Brad Pitt`s mouth, it just sounds so cute. You know, we`re all just fascinated by Brad and Angelina and we can`t get enough of them. So any stories that we can hear about their private and personal lives, a lot of people just want to latch on it and find out more.
HAMMER: Lisa, is it off the TMI meter for you? You`re a mom yourself.
BLOOM: You know, before we talk about what came out of his mouth, what crawled up on top of his lip and died? I mean, what is he growing there?
HAMMER: You`re not the first person to observe that.
BLOOM: Are you kidding me?
HAMMER: Yes.
BLOOM: Look, you know, when my children were little, I thought the poop and the snot and the vomit alert was fascinating, too. I think that`s endemic to parents of young kids. For the rest of us, you know what? Not so interesting, frankly.
HAMMER: Yes. Well, you know, it`s not just Brad who`s doing the talking here. And while he was opening up about life with literally their six-pack of kids, you had Angelina dishing on a British TV show about how she struggled with breastfeeding her newborn twins at the same time. Watch this.
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JOLIE: You look at the books and you see that there`s this like, oh, the football hold.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes.
JOLIE: And you think - and if I can do that, anybody can do that. And it`s a lot harder than it looks in the books. I did that a few times. But I would take turns and it just takes a long time.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
HAMMER: The football hold. Now, I`ve got to say, I`ve not heard of that one before. Maybe it`s a common thing.
All right. Carolina, same thing about Angelina and the football hold for breastfeeding the twins. Charming mommy anecdote or TMI?
BERMUDEZ: OK. Now, that one is TMI. When I`m hearing about chafing and things like that, I get really scared. And as a single girl that hasn`t had any kids yet, the football hold - I just don`t want to hear about that. So she can scale it back just a little bit.
HAMMER: I may have to call sexist on this one, Carolina. I`m just kidding. What do you think, Lisa Bloom?
BLOOM: I have heard of it. I read those breastfeeding books when my kids were little. All I can say is, breastfeeding two kids at once, ow, ow, ow! Just think about it. I don`t know how she does it.
HAMMER: Well, you got issues with that. All right. Are you ready, Angelina taking it up a notch. You`ve got to listen to what she had to say about balancing fame and family and the times when the two collide. Let`s roll that one.
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JOLIE: The only time it ever collides is if, you know, we`re trying to get ready for some event where we have to walk a carpet and somebody gets peed on and figures darn well, "I guess I won`t be wearing that this evening."
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HAMMER: All right. There is even more to come in this newly opening up Angelina and Brad. But Lisa, let me ask you this. Why do you think this very private couple suddenly letting loose? Are we doing some calculated PR here? Because it`s so terrific to hear these stories. Or does mommy- hood and daddy-hood just change everything?
BLOOM: I think they`re being brutally honest. But do they have children or farm animals? I mean, I don`t understand why there`s so many bodily fluids all over the place. And don`t they have help with - they`re multi, multimillionaires. Don`t they have stylists and wardrobe people and nannies and housekeepers who sort of whisk everything away? I mean, what`s going on there?
HAMMER: Well, they have said they have a very hands-on role in the parenting and raising of their children. And you know, when you`ve got six children under six, there are going to be a lot of bodily fluids. I know that much.
What do you think, Carolina? What is the reason behind the fact that they are opening up so much here.
BERMUDEZ: Well, A.J., I`m the youngest of six children, so I saw all the bodily functions and fluids as well when I was growing up.
But here`s the thing. If they were using this as a calculated PR stunt because their movies were failing, I could see that. Angelina`s been in three movies this past year that grossed $1 billion. They don`t get need the extra press. I think I agree with Lisa. They`re being very honest.
HAMMER: Well, I`ve got to tell you. It`s not just candor about the kids that we`re hearing with all the talking that they`re doing. In fact, in a frankly touching and very authentic moment of a press conference while she was promoting her new movie "The Changeling," Angelina actually broke down when she was talking about her late mother, who she says, really influenced the way that she played her role in this film. You`ve got to take a look at this.
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JOLIE: She is very much - she`s very much (UNINTELLIGIBLE). She was really, really sweet. And she would never get angry. She couldn`t swear to save her life. This is very much her and her story. She was the woman I relate to.
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HAMMER: A real emotional moment there, certainly not a case of TMI. It is surprising that she was so open and emotional, I would think, in such a public setting. Lisa, is this really just the kind of thing that adds to the whole fascination with Angelina Jolie?
BLOOM: You know, I think so. We forget that in addition to being the two most gorgeous people in the world, Brad and Angelina are also terrific actors. And to be that good, they really have to be in touch with their emotions and with pivotal times in their lives.
And I think she was being very real and very honest there, talking about her mom, her late mother who she clearly misses very much.
BLOOM: Well, of course, last week, Angelina was in the headlines over the continued fascination with her and Brad`s ex, Jennifer Aniston.
And in our SHOWBIZ TONIGHT question of the day, we asked you to vote online and on air, "Who is the bigger star, Angelina Jolie or Jennifer Aniston?" A lot of votes came in on this.
As you see, 71 percent say Angelina; 29 percent of you said Jennifer Aniston. We got some calls, too. Christine from Texas calling in to "Showbiz On Call." Listen to what she had to say.
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CHRISTINE, CALLER FROM TEXAS: Jennifer Aniston is the bigger star than Angelina Jolie. Angelina Jolie is a home-wrecker.
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HAMMER: All right. But on the other side of the coin, we got an anonymous caller to "Showbiz On Call." This person is going with team Jolie. Let`s listen to this.
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ANONYMOUS CALLER: I am voting for Angelina Jolie. I think she`s the best actress at the moment. I love her acting. She can do any kind of movie.
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HAMMER: All right. So she`s obviously going with team Jolie. What do you think, Carolina? Is this new softer side something that may convert some team Aniston members into team Jolie members?
BERMUDEZ: Well, definitely. Jennifer Aniston - she is a star on the small screen. But Angelina Jolie is internationally known. She`s gotten so many awards. She`s just a good humanitarian.
So I think that a lot of people are open to maybe looking at her not as a home-wrecker but as a person, as a mother, as a family unit now that she`s opened up.
HAMMER: Not a home-wrecker, a homemaker.
BERMUDEZ: There you go.
HAMMER: So what do you think? Real quickly, Lisa Bloom - does seeing that side of Angelina Jolie now perhaps help some people who may have had a problem with Angelina`s past?
BLOOM: I think so and I think "home wrecker" is one of those antiquated words. You know, Brad Pitt is a big boy. He made his own choices. And he clearly - he`s been doing a lot more humanitarian efforts of his own, now that he`s teamed up with Angelina. I think she demands it of all the work that she does for African refugees. I think clearly is the bigger star. She commands a lot of money, a lot of terrific films. That`s just the way it is.
HAMMER: All right. Lisa Bloom, thanks so much. Carolina Bermudez, I appreciate you both being here tonight.
So what do you think about all of these intimate details about Brad and Angelina`s life? Well, call us at "Showbiz On Call" so you can let us know what you think about this or anything else that`s on your mind.
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Well, now Barack Obama has a huge following in Hollywood. But who knew Obama would have such a unique connection to one of TV`s biggest shows of all time. Coming up, how Obama`s right-hand man may have actually inspired a main character on "The West Wing."
We`ll also have this -
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MOOS: Now, if we`re going to have to wait months for this White House dog, we need a puppy fix right now. And here it is, Puppy Nanny Cam.
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HAMMER: The obsession over finding the first dog boils over online. It`s a hysterical puppy watch that will make you say, aww. And that`s coming up next.
And then, for something completely different, the hooker that brought down New York`s former governor, speaking out for the very first time. She`s dishing the real story behind the Eliot Spitzer sex scandal.
Her surprising message to the ex-governor`s wife as well. And wait until you hear the fired-up reaction from the ladies of "The View." That is coming up on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT.
And now, the SHOWBIZ news ticker, more stories from the SHOWBIZ TONIGHT newsroom, making news right now -
(CAPTION READS: Deidre Hall fired from "Days of our Lives" after 30 years. Sean "Diddy" Combs to do two guest spots on "CSI: MIAMI."
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HAMMER: As if winning the White House is not enough, President-elect Barack Obama has just been named one of "GQ" magazine`s men of the year. Obama`s got some pretty good company on this year`s list which includes Olympian Michael Phelps, Leonardo Di Caprio and Sean Penn.
Welcome back to SHOWBIZ TONIGHT. I`m A.J. Hammer in New York. Tonight on the SHOWBIZ Obama watch, our continuing coverage of the Obama puppy search.
Yes, the Obamas have said they`re going to wait until they get settled into the White House before they get a puppy for their daughters. And you know, that has caused many dog lovers to suffer from withdrawal symptoms as a result of first dog selection syndrome. Here with a possibly cure, CNN`s Jeanne Moos for SHOWBIZ TONIGHT.
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MOOS (voice over): Who needs a first dog when you can watch six puppies? And who wants to be a dog in the White House anyway? Even the high-brow New Yorker is imagining a dog`s life among politicos.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Blathering about the Middle East. And one of them (UNINTELLIGIBLE), "What do you think, Barney? What do you think we should do?" And all I could come up with like, woof! I feel like such an ass.
MOOS: There`s even the Obama dog blog featuring a cartoon showing the first dog lifting his leg on a house plant while President Obama says, "No, you can`t."
And we can`t read out the latest single, "Howl to the chief!"
But now, the Obamas say they`re going to hold off on getting a puppy until they`ve settled in.
(on camera): Now, if we`re going to have to wait months for this White House dog, we need a puppy fix right now.
(voice over): And here it is - Puppy Nanny Cam. A San Francisco couple set up a webcam -
JOHN HAM, CEO AND FOUNDER, USTREAM: The family wanted a way to be able to check in on the puppies when they`re at work.
MOOS: They used a free service called U-stream TV that lets you stream live video over the Internet. Now, millions have watched the puppies scratch, lick and wipe out on the wee-wee pad. They play with Mr. Carrot, fight with each other. They are shiba inu, a Japanese breed, born six weeks ago.
Fans have watched their mom feed them on the run and now they run for the dog dish. Their owners have remained anonymous. All we ever see is a pair of shoes. Sometimes you want to warn them, "Look out, the pup just sprinkled where you`re about to walk in your bare feet!"
Occasionally, we`re treated to a disembodied hand. The pups are not for sale. All six are spoken for. They`ve become such a Web sensation that they`re already being spoofed by people pretending to be them.
One of the pups has literally wiped the smile off the pumpkin`s face. Notice the moving lump as one crawls around under the bed. Maybe the Obamas should consider a Puppy Nanny Cam in the Lincoln bedroom.
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HAMMER: You can`t go wrong with the Puppy Nanny Cam. that. That was CNN`s Jeanne Moos for SHOWBIZ TONIGHT. I`m thinking the Obama kids could just tune in until next spring when they were expected to finally get their puppy. And we can all relax.
Well, the SHOWBIZ Obama watch continues with what has got to be one of the most fascinating connections between the Obama White House and Hollywood.
The president-elect`s chief of staff and his brother are the real-life inspirations for two of TV`s most memorable characters. SHOWBIZ TONIGHT`s Brooke Anderson checks out the interesting six degrees of separation.
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BARACK OBAMA, UNITED STATES PRESIDENT-ELECT: I used to think that Rahm was slightly abrasive because he`s short and sort of funny looking. And then I met his brother, Ari, a Hollywood agent who`s tall and good-looking and also abrasive and annoying.
BROOKE ANDERSON, CO-HOST, SHOWBIZ TONIGHT (voice over): Barack Obama roasting Rahm Emanuel three years at an epilepsy awareness event, taking aim at his tinsel town ties as seen on YouTube.
OBAMA: Some of you may also know that Rahm`s brother, Ari, is the model for lead character on the big hit on HBO, "Entourage." What you may not know is that Rahm himself is an inspiration for that other HBO character, Tony Soprano.
ANDERSON: The "Soprano" reference was a joke, but in reality, Emanuel, who used to work for Bill Clinton, is said to have been a model for "The West Wing`s" deputy White House chief-of-staff.
UNIDENTIFIED ACTOR: What did you give him.
UNIDENTIFIED ACTOR: Nothing more than a wake-up call. I want your permission to kick his ass.
ANDERSON: Rahm`s brother, talent agent, Ari Emanuel, the inspiration for fast-talking Ari Gold on "Entourage.".
UNIDENTIFIED ACTOR: I need to see the movie.
UNIDENTIFIED ACTOR: What does one thing have to do with the other?
UNIDENTIFIED ACTOR: Connect the (EXPLETIVE DELETED) dots.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: They`re not just brothers. They`re really close brothers and their styles are somewhat similar. They`re just unrelentingly aggressive.
ANDERSON: so has Hollywood`s portrayal of the Emanuel brothers given any indication as to how Rahm will run the White House?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I think "West Wing" certainly inspires ideas - there`s some speculation. But I think that it`s impossible to predict people`s behavior, how they`ll behave under moments of stress. The main thing about Rahm is his forcefulness and his attitude.
REP. RAHM EMANUEL (D-IL): As a chief of staff, I`m not going to get in front of the president.
ANDERSON: But from the sound of it, he`ll surely have his back.
UNIDENTIFIED ACTOR: He doesn`t hold a grudge, that`s what he pays me for.
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HAMMER: And that was SHOWBIZ TONIGHT`s Brooke Anderson reporting. And I`m thinking, with that Ari Gold connection, maybe they`re going to solve White House conflict by hugging it out. I don`t know.
All right. Moving on - here are new stories that are new right now. Some very scary times for Jennifer Garner. She has been forced to take legal action to protect herself from a stalker. According to court documents obtained by TMZ, a guy named Steven Burky has been stalking, harassing and sending disturbing notes to the actress for six years now.
Garner, who of course is married to Ben Affleck, says that she fears for her life and for her entire family`s safety including the safety of her unborn child. Officials also tell TMZ, Burky is being held for psychiatric evaluation.
Well, Winona Ryder is now out of the hospital after getting sick on a flight to London. Emergency crews were waiting right there for her when the flight landed Wednesday. They rushed her to the hospital where she spent a few hours. Now, SHOWBIZ TONIGHT has learned Ryder is doing just fine now.
All right. We all remember it`s not that long ago. It was the sex scandal that sent shockwaves across the country. Well, tonight, the prostitute who brought down the former governor of the state of New York is telling all.
This is a revealing new interview and when you hear it you are going to find out her surprising message for the ex-governor`s wife. And wait until you hear the fired up reaction from the ladies of "The View." Hang out, SHOWBIZ TONIGHT is coming right back.
Now, remember you can watch SHOWBIZ TONIGHT video any time with new stuff going up all the time at CNN.com/ShowbizTonight.
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HAMMER: Tonight the former prostitute who brought down the governor of New York seen here earlier this year on "Us Weekly" magazine, is now speaking out about the scandal for the very first time.
Welcome back to SHOWBIZ TONIGHT. I`m A.J. Hammer in New York.
Yes. In a brand new interview, Ashlee Dupree says she had no idea who Eliot Spitzer was when she met him last February. Dupree she had been working as an escort on and off since 2004 and that Spitzer was polite but describes their meeting as strictly business.
Now, in a just released interview with "People" magazine, Dupree says, quote, "Some guys - they want to have conversations and really get to know each other. With him, (Spitzer) it clearly was not like that. It was more of a transaction."
Well, Dupree calls the scandal that erupted and ultimately led to Spitzer resigning his post, quote, "surreal." The 23-year-old also says she feels Spitzer has been punished enough. And as for Spitzer`s wife, Dupree says, quote, "I`m sorry for your pain."
But that just did not fly for the ladies of "The View." Oh no, today they had more than a few choice words for Ashlee Dupree. Watch.
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WHOOPI GOLDBERG, CO-HOST, "THE VIEW": She is apologizing to Silda Spitzer which I think is very hollow.
ELISABETH HASSELBECK, CO-HOST, "THE VIEW": She said something - I think her quote was -
SHERRI SHEPHERD, CO-HOST, "THE VIEW": She`s friggin got her thing.
HASSELBECK: Her face, her eyes, are hurt. (UNINTELLIGIBLE)
SHEPHERD: And you pull down your shirt in a sexy pose.
GOLDBERG: As you are talking to the newspaper, if you`re thinking of her hurt, her kids, her shame, then keep your mouth shut. Disappear.
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JOY BEHAR, CO-HOST, "THE VIEW": Get out of our face.
SHEPHERD: You are only saying that because you can`t get a job anywhere and you are trying to move on.
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HAMMER: Oh, boy. It is possible that we have not heard the last of Ashlee Dupree. Oh no, she has big dreams she says of making music and she says she may pursue a career in fashion. Or she may even write a book. Dupree says one thing is for sure, she will never, ever sell her body again to make money.
Well, on Tuesday we asked you to vote on our SHOWBIZ TONIGHT question of the day - "Who is a bigger star, Angelina Jolie or Jennifer Aniston? Very one-sided here, with 71 percent of you saying Angelina Jolie; 29 percent of you saying Jen Aniston.
Among the E-mails we got from all over the planet, we heard from Ann from China writing, "I`d much rather see a movie with Jennifer Aniston than Angelina Jolie. Angie might be a good actress, but she`s not as cool as Jennifer."
We also heard from Alisa in Canada who writes, "There is no contest. Angelina is an Oscar winner, gorgeous, a great humanitarian and incredibly sexy."
Well, that is it for SHOWBIZ TONIGHT. I thank you for watching. I`m A.J. Hammer in New York.
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