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Octu-Mom Under Investigation; The Octu-Mom`s Video Diary; Evidence of Chris Brown and Rihanna`s Possible Reunion; The Bachelor Breakup; Jennifer Aniston Trying to be a Bond Girl?
Aired March 03, 2009 - 23:00 ET
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A.J. HAMMER, CO-HOST: Now, on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT, the octu-mom, under fire and under investigation. Tonight, SHOWBIZ TONIGHT with the brand-new startling reports that the Department of Family Services allegedly investigated the octuplet mom.
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KIM SERAFIN, SENIOR EDITOR, "IN TOUCH WEEKLY": This is what is happening with six kids. What will happen when there are young babies, eight of them, all crying at the same time?
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HAMMER: Police reportedly called her to home, not once, but eight times. Also, outrage over the bizarre new octu-mom video diary.
The very first proof that Chris Brown and Rihanna may actually be back together. Tonight, SHOWBIZ TONIGHT reveals surprising evidence of a possible reunion. Plus, why one of TV`s biggest judges says Chris Brown absolutely should not get a plea deal for allegedly attacking his girlfriend.
And Aniston, Jennifer Aniston. Is she really trying to become the next James Bond girl?
TV`s most provocative entertainment news show starts right now.
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Hello. I am A.J. Hammer, broadcasting tonight and every night from New York City.
BROOKE ANDERSON, CO-HOST: Hi there, everyone. I`m Brooke Anderson, coming to you tonight from Hollywood. Tonight, the octu-mom soap opera.
HAMMER: Yes. Soap opera indeed, Brooke. Tonight, we have the brand-new bizarre video diary from the octu-mom herself. That`s right, a video diary. Nadya Suleman goes on camera and reveals even more surprising details about trying to raise six kids at home and eight newborns who are still in the hospital.
Her outrageous soap opera-style confessions do not even beginning to scratch the surface of this explosive story. Now, there are disturbing new reports that police have actually been called to Suleman`s house not once, but eight times. And all of this is making big news right now.
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NADYA SULEMAN, OCTUPLET: Hi, I`m Nadya Suleman. Welcome to my life.
HAMMER (voice over): Octu-mom fans rejoice. The busy mom of 14 is now hosting a brand-new video blog on "Radar Online" where she keeps you up to date on her hectic home life with six kids plus eight babies in the hospital.
N. SULEMAN: It is to me, in a sense, that yes, it will be an enormous responsibility.
HAMMER: And if this saga isn`t crazy enough, it also comes with some dramatic new reports of police activity.
HARVEY LEVIN, TMZ.COM: Octu-mom has had her share of contact with police and child welfare.
HAMMER: SHOWBIZ TONIGHT can tell you Suleman is making sure we keep up with every dramatic twist and turn in her soap opera of a life, a page- turning tale, you could call, "All My 14 Children."
In her "Radar Online" video blog, we see a harried Nadya Suleman talking about her life all while dealing with some of the rambunctious six kids she currently lives with at home.
N. SULEMAN: They all have very good temperament.
HAMMER: Still, we do see some biting.
N. SULEMAN: Don`t bite me. It hurts.
HAMMER: Mild sibling-on-sibling violence and lots of crying.
N. SULEMAN: No nap today.
SERAFIN: She seems very calm and relaxed like she has the kids totally under control and she will have no problem handling it when the eight kids come home - not.
HAMMER: "In Touch Weekly`s" Kim Serafin tells SHOWBIZ TONIGHT the videos show that the octu-mom has a lot on her plate with the six kids she already has, to say nothing about the octuplets she`ll be bringing home from the hospital in two weeks.
SERAFIN: Even with the kids tugging on her hair, pulling her and crying, she does seem to have that even temperament about her. So I will give her credit. But it does seem like she is way in over her head.
N. SULEMAN: It is called (UNINTELLIGIBLE), Dave.
HAMMER: Suleman does break some news revealing that she soon plans to move her growing family into a bigger house that, by the way, the unemployed single mom says she paid for herself.
N. SULEMAN: In advance. So I did this on my own. I didn`t get help from my parents. Nor did I get any offer of going off of food stamps. That`s a big issue.
Now, at this point, I found a couple ways to try to get some money, a little bit resources for the kids and for the house. And I don`t - my goal is not to be a burden on any taxpayer. So that is a reality.
HAMMER: It`s a hectic life all right, but TMZ.com is reporting that Suleman`s house has gotten so hectic the police have been called more than once.
LEVIN: There have been eight calls by Octu-mom or her family or neighbors to the cops.
HAMMER: TMZ`s Harvey Levin tells SHOWBIZ TONIGHT none of the calls were for life-threatening emergencies but some of them do raise eyebrow eyebrows.
LEVIN: They have come out for a variety of reasons, you know, including once when the 5-year-old was taking a walk with grandma and Nadya didn`t know it. And she was real upset and called the cops, and they had to come out and find her. Once, a kid was locked in a bedroom, couldn`t get him out.
HAMMER: What`s more, TMZ is also reporting L.A.`s Department of Children and Family Services actually investigated a complaint against Suleman last summer about six months before she gave birth to the octuplets.
LEVIN: A neighbor said that the kids were being neglected and they were dirty. So, DCFS and the cops actually came out and they investigated, found that it was - there was no basis for the report or it was unfounded, as they put it.
HAMMER: L.A.`s DCFS tells SHOWBIZ TONIGHT they can`t comment on this or any other individual case. But even though nothing came out of the reported Child Services investigation, it begs the question - if things are this hectic now, how bad will things get once Suleman`s brood of six kids more than doubles in size to 14?
All important questions to be sure. And you better believe Suleman will try to give us the answers in future episodes of "All My 14 Children."
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But what will the net result be? Will the octu-mom`s video diary put the drama surrounding her to rest? Or really, is it more proof that she is in way over her head and starring in what is really the most outrageous soap opera ever.
Joining me tonight from Hollywood is Leslie Marshall, she the host of the syndicated radio show "The Leslie Marshal Show." Also in Hollywood tonight, Chris Myers. He`s an executive editor for RadarOnline.com.
And one thing that really struck me, guys, watching Nadya Suleman`s video blog is that all the kids are right there in the middle of it all. We`ve got to take a look at octu-mom trying to explain what a normal day is like at her house. Roll that.
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N. SULEMAN: Gentle. Today - gentle, gentle. Today probably seven. No, six. And then Aidan(ph) got up and - got them ready. Gentle. Don`t bite me. It hurts. Show me gentle. Then Aidan (ph) got up. And then, he gets up very early. He`s up half the night usually. On the weekends, I`m just devoting to all the eight of the kids. Big kids I am trying to - gentle.
UNIDENTIFIED CHILD: Mommy -
N. SULEMAN: I love you. But gentle.
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HAMMER: OK. There is a smack, "Don`t bite me. Show me gentle." I`m thinking if it is me, I`m waiting until the kid is calm before I continue with the taping. Now, granted we know kids are unruly at times, but Chris, do you think people are going to see this and think, you know, there is no way she is capable of caring for 14 young kids.
CHRIS MYER, EXECUTIVE EDITOR, RADARONLINE.COM: I mean, I suppose that is possible, A.J. But look, Nadya Suleman - is she going to win mother of the year award? No. But six kids in a room in a small house all day long - this is typical activity that you are going to see with six children. Climbing on each other. Rough housing.
If you took your kids to a birthday party, and they`re six, seven, 5- year-olds and they`re upstairs, you`re going to hear screaming, yelling, things broken.
I don`t think you are seeing anything in this video that`s going to make you go, Nadya Suleman get the kids out of her house.
HAMMER: Yes.
MYERS: But the same time - no, clearly, it does say, eight more kids added to this mixture?
HAMMER: Well, yes.
MYERS: Clearly, she needs a lot of help.
HAMMER: And Chris, in the big context, in the bigger picture, the fact that I think she is trying to change her image and how people see her. I want to get to the alarming new report on TMZ.com which shows that the authorities have reportedly been called to Nadya Suleman`s house a half dozen times in the past year alone.
I want to show you just a couple of these. Last January, the octu-mom reportedly called 911 after one of the six children locked themselves in a room. July 7, Department of Children and Family Services reportedly gets a call from a neighbor that the kids were, quote, "not clean or being fed properly." That investigation was later dropped.
And on October 27, Octu-mom reportedly calls 911 to report one of the children is missing. The child is later found nearby with the grandmother. This list goes on. Leslie, is it me or does this just really show a disturbing pattern of an overwhelmed mother?
LESLIE MARSHALL, HOST, "THE LESLIE MARSHALL SHOW": I`m glad that you said "pattern." You know, if it happens once, you can say there was a mistake. Eight times. And even though the report was unfounded, I don`t think this is a witch-hunt by neighbors to get her out of the neighborhood and get the kids taken from her.
I think these are people that are concerned citizens for the care and welfare of these children. If there is any - any hint of neglect and certainly the reports have been unfounded - my concern is that if there are eight calls with six children, how many calls will there be with 14?
HAMMER: Yes.
MARSHALL: She can`t handle this. And by the way, A.J., if I bite you but gently and nicely, it still hurts doesn`t it?
HAMMER: It sure does. Now, insists - here is something I don`t get. She insists she`s doesn`t want a reality show but she`s got this daily video blog on "Radar Online" with more cliffhangers, I tell you, than a daytime drama. Let`s look at one particular what I like to call episode where Octu-mom reveals brand-new details about her house. Roll that.
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N. SULEMAN: I think maybe, 2,600, 2,800 - something like that - square foot. It`s about 1,000 more than here. And there are four bedrooms so they will grow out of it eventually. But, the master bedroom is huge enough, really huge so it will accommodate eight babies.
Not only - I want to be private. I really don`t want anyone to know where we are. And that`s the concern I have. And everyone is - I don`t know who, but many people have seen where we live and they know the kids. And being in the field I`m in, I know there is a lot of emotionally disturbed people in the world. And I have trust issues.
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HAMMER: All right. I know I`m not alone here. I`m having a hard time hearing she wants privacy, yet she`s doing this video blog every day. Got to end it there. Leslie Marshall, Chris Myers, thank you both for joining us. And we`ve got much more on all the brand-new octu-drama coming up.
It is TV`s most famous judge, Judge Judy, who is furious. You do not want to miss her fired-up ruling on the octu-mom`s behavior, coming up at the bottom of the hour here on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT.
All right. Brooke, moving on to another big story that has a lot of people really fired up - of course, Chris Brown and Rihanna.
ANDERSON: You`re right, A.J. People are just stunned that Rihanna might be reuniting with this guy, the guy, who allegedly beat her up. Tonight, we`ve got the very first proof that Chris Brown and Rihanna may actually be back together.
Plus, why one of TV`s biggest judges says Chris Brown should absolutely not get a plea deal.
HAMMER: Aniston, Jennifer Aniston - is Jennifer Aniston trying to become the next James Bond girl? I`ve got the shaken but not stirred details, coming up.
ANDERSON: And it could be the most shocking reality show breakup of all time. Men and women everywhere, outraged and divided online, on TV, on the radio. Straight ahead, the great debate over the TV dumping heard around the world. This is SHOWBIZ TONIGHT on HLN.
And now, the "SHOWBIZ News Ticker" - more stories from the SHOWBIZ TONIGHT newsroom making news right now.
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ANDERSON: Hey, welcome back to SHOWBIZ TONIGHT. I`m Brooke Anderson in Hollywood.
All right. Shocking new developments tonight in the Chris Brown and Rihanna drama. Tonight, the very first proof that Chris Brown and Rihanna may actually be back together.
Pictures posted on TMZ.com today show the apparently on-again couple getting on a plane in Miami and arriving in L.A. early this morning.
Also, new tonight, one of TV`s most popular judges is outraged and says Chris Brown absolutely should not get a plea deal for allegedly attacking his girlfriend.
With me tonight in Hollywood, Carlos Diaz, who`s a correspondent for "Extra." And from New York, Carolina Bermudez who is a senior editor for "In Touch Weekly."
Carlos, Carolina, with the new pictures out there showing Chris and Rihanna apparently together, it looks like all is forgiven between the two.
Carlos, now that Rihanna has apparently made amends with Chris Brown, do you think that his fans will do the same?
CARLOS DIAZ, CORRESPONDENT, "EXTRA": Let`s just put it this way, Chris Brown has more fans today than he did two weeks ago. But he still has less fans than he had two months ago. You know what I mean? That`s the thing.
So fans are beginning to forgive a little bit, but not like he had before. I mean, he still lost a heck of a lot of his fan base as well he should have. And this could really affect Rihanna`s fan base.
ANDERSON: Yes, and he is just 19. Very, very young. So he does have a lot of time maybe to redeem himself and bounce back. We`ll see.
But I do know this story has certainly struck a chord with SHOWBIZ TONIGHT viewers, our "Showbiz on Call" phone lines have been overwhelmed with callers about this. Listen to Hannah from Nebraska.
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HANNAH, CALLER FROM NEBRASKA: This is something that they need to work out. Everybody wants to snap their fingers and say you have to walk away. You can`t just walk away. It probably runs deeper than that and people need to realize that. And they need to quit expecting her to be a role model.
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ANDERSON: Everybody keeps asking, "What kind of message would it send if Rihanna and Chris got back together?" Carolina, is it fair, though, to expect Rihanna to be a role model when she is dealing with something so intensely private?
CAROLINA BERMUDEZ, SENIOR EDITOR, "IN TOUCH WEEKLY": Is it fair? No. Life isn`t fair, you know. And when you are a celebrity, you can`t choose whether or not to be a role model and that is the problem.
But Rihanna had a very unique experience here where she could have maybe taken it to a different level. She has resources at her disposal where she could have shown other women who have gone through this abuse how to be stronger and how to get through it.
So this is a tough call. You know, you can`t tell people how to live their lives but you hope that they can make the right decisions for them. And I don`t think this was the right decision for her personally.
ANDERSON: You know, she does have an opportunity here to become a symbol for women everywhere, especially women who have dealt with domestic violence.
And Chris Brown - a lot of people are wondering now that it seems that Brown and Rihanna have reconciled, will the assault case against him just go away?
Well, TV judge, Jeanine Pirro says no way. She`s urging the L.A. district attorney to avoid cutting a plea deal with Chris Brown and make him stand trial. Carlos, do you agree with her?
DIAZ: You know, ever since the O.J. Simpson trial here in L.A., everyone is on pins and needles when it comes to a celebrity case, knowing that they will be under the microscope. All eyes across America and across the world would be on this D.A.`s office if they go ahead with this.
I honestly - you know, it`s tough to say this. But maybe a plea deal right now is the only way for all parties to kind of save face right now.
ANDERSON: Interesting. Well, it is ultimately up to the district attorney to decide whether to prosecute, whether they have reconciled, regardless of what Rihanna says or doesn`t say. We`ll see what happens.
Carlos Diaz, Carolina Bermudez, thank you both for your insight.
And now, we want to hear from you. It is our SHOWBIZ TONIGHT question of the day, "Rihanna and Chris Brown: Would it be a bad idea for them to reconcile?"
Vote, CNN.com/ShowbizTonight. E-mail us - here`s the address: showbiztonight@cnn.com.
HAMMER: And you know, Brooke, the "Showbiz on Call" phone lines keep coming in about this possible Chris Brown-Rihanna reunion. In fact, we had to make our SHOWBIZ TONIGHT operators walk through four feet of snow in their boots to come to the office and handle all the calls.
ANDERSON: Oh, they`re so dedicated, A.J. We got a call into "Showbiz on Call" from Eddewina in California.
EDDEWINA, CALLER FROM CALIFORNIA: People should butt out and let them live their lives. I know that they have many fans. But they can`t live their lives based on what people think. They are also human beings.
HAMMER: Well, thank you, Eddewina, for your call. We also heard from Jessica calling in to "Showbiz on Call" from Rhode Island.
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JESSICA, CALLER FROM RHODE ISLAND: I think that it sends a very wrong message to all of her fans and his fans. Domestic violence is not OK and it always happens again. So run, girl. Run as far as you can and show him what he missed out on.
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ANDERSON: Thank you for your thoughts, Jessica. Remember, you, too, can call us at "Showbiz on Call." Let us know what you think about this or anything else that is on your mind.
HAMMER: We keep the "Showbiz on Call" phone lines open all the time at 1- 888-SBT-BUZZ; 1-888-728-2899. Dial the number. Leave a voicemail. We are playing your calls here on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT.
We`re posting your calls, too, right there on our homepage, CNN.com/ShowbizTonight.
ANDERSON: Hey, A.J., our "Showbiz on Call" phone lines are also ringing nonstop about the octu-mom.
HAMMER: No question about it, Brooke. Almost every day, we`ve got at least one new shocking development. Tonight, it`s her bizarre video diary, reports that the authorities have been through her home eight times and this - TV`s most famous, take-no-bull judge, Judge Judy, giving her ruling on the octu-mom. And let me tell you, she is so fired up, Judy is flying off the bench. That`s coming up.
ANDERSON: A.J., it sounds like Judge Judy is shaken and stirred. And speaking of shaking and stirring, is Jennifer Aniston trying to become the next Bond girl?
HAMMER: And wait until you see this - Sharon Osbourne gets into a nasty fight on her very own TV show. Well, tonight, I`m going to tell you why it could cost her big time. This is SHOWBIZ TONIGHT on HLN.
Now, the "SHOWBIZ News Ticker" - more stories from the SHOWBIZ TONIGHT newsroom making news right now.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Are you OK?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes. The illicit practice of -
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ANDERSON: That is Sharon Osbourne, channeling her inner Jerry Springer and getting into a nasty fight with a contestant on VH1`s "Rock of Love Charm School." And tonight, that contestant has no love for Sharon. She is suing her.
Welcome back to SHOWBIZ TONIGHT, I`m Brooke Anderson.
HAMMER: I`m A.J. Hammer with some more stories that are making news right now.
ANDERSON: Well, tonight, that contestant, Megan Hauserman, is suing Sharon Osbourne claiming battery, negligence and emotional distress. This all went down in December during a reunion show for "Rock of Love Charm School."
Sharon poured a drink on this woman after they did some serious trash- talking and Hauserman dissed Sharon`s husband, Ozzie. The suit says Osbourne hit Hauserman, pulled her hair and scratched her.
By the way, this charm school show is about developing proper etiquette which doesn`t appeared to have worked for anybody.
HAMMER: I`ve got to tell you, I am psyched for this U2 album - their brand-new amazing album. It`s their 12th, called "No Line on the Horizon." And I think it is just amazing how the band stuck for so long, more than 30 years. Lead singer Bono tells us the secrets to lasting this long, and still loving what they do and never letting their success get to their heads. Well, not too much, anyway.
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BONO, LEAD SINGER, U2: Individual egos, as big as they may appear - and they may not be as big as they appear - are certainly subsumed to the band ego. That`s the real thing. People tell me if you go to a U2 show, when walk out on stage, everybody - their hair is going up on the back of their neck. What we don`t tell everyone is that that happens to us, too. And I don`t know why that is. I think it is chemistry.
HAMMER: Well, U2 is actually set to release yet another album later this year.
ANDERSON: And Sean Penn is pushing California to create a statewide Harvey Milk Day. Penn, who just won the best actor Oscar for his movie, "Milk," reintroduced a bill with a state senator to officially recognize Milk`s birthday.
Harvey Milk was one of the first openly gay men to be elected to a major public office in America, San Francisco`s board of supervisors. He was assassinated in 1978.
HAMMER: And now for the SHOWBIZ line up. Here is what is coming up at the bottom of the hour on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT.
Brand-new octu-mom outrage. Take no prisoners TV judge, Judge Judy, just throwing the book at the octu-mom. You`ve got to hear how furious she is.
Aniston, Jennifer Aniston. Is Aniston trying to become the next James Bond girl?
And the shocking reality show breakup that has men and women everywhere totally divided and really fired up. This is SHOWBIZ TONIGHT on HLN.
Now, the "SHOWBIZ News Ticker" - more stories from the SHOWBIZ TONIGHT newsroom making news right now.
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N. SULEMAN: Big kids - gentle, my love. I love you, but gentle.
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HAMMER: Now, on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT, brand-new explosive octu-mom drama. TV`s most famous judge is absolutely outraged over the octu-mom. Tonight, you`ve got to hear the explosive comments Judge Judy has for the octu-mom.
Jennifer Aniston - Bond girl? Tonight, is Jennifer trying to be a Bond girl? Jen speaks out on that and what she has to say about the fact that everyone is still asking her about Brangelina. Plus, more stories breaking from the "SHOWBIZ News Ticker."
TV`s most provocative entertainment news show continues right now.
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Welcome back to SHOWBIZ TONIGHT. It`s 30 minutes past the hour. I`m A.J. Hammer, broadcasting to night and every night from New York City.
ANDERSON: And I`m Brooke Anderson, coming to you tonight from Hollywood.
Tonight, octu-mom outrage. TV`s most famous judge unleashes her fury on octuplet mom, Nadya Suleman.
HAMMER: That`s right, Brooke. Just wait until you hear Judge Judy`s rant to Ellen DeGeneres about Octu-mom. TV`s favorite family court judge really goes off on the mother of 14.
Also tonight, we have the startling report that the Department of Family Services allegedly investigated the octuplet mom. And even more astounding, we are getting more insight into octu-mom`s life through her very own video diary and blog.
You might just cringe when you see and hear what she is saying. Consider yourself warned.
Joining me tonight from Hollywood, Leslie Marshall of "The Leslie Marshall Show." Also in Hollywood, it`s Chris Myers from RadarOnline.com.
I want to begin with Judge Judy`s brand-new rant on "Ellen" about octu-mom. Now, earlier today, the famous TV judge who never minces words absolutely went off. Watch this.
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JUDGE JUDITH SHEINDLIN, HOST, "JUDGE JUDY": You have six children as a single parent and three of them have a disability. It is enough. I mean, you are irresponsible to your children. You are irresponsible to your parents who have to help you take care of them.
ELLEN DEGENERES, HOST, "THE ELLEN DEGENERES SHOW": Right.
SHEINDLIN: You are irresponsible to the community who is one way or another going to be supporting these children.
DEGENERES: Sure.
SHEINDLIN: But most of all, you are irresponsible for the now 14 children. This is one woman who had the bad judgment to do what she did, being asked to raise 14 children. And she says, "I can do it alone. I don`t really need help." It is just irresponsible.
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HAMMER: Judge Judy there, just throwing the book at Octu-mom and using the key word "irresponsible."
Leslie, to you first, is her reaction surprising at all? Or is it really, you know, just tapping into the outrage that so many people are feeling?
MARSHALL: This is what America is feeling, A.J. This is what my callers are saying, what bloggers are saying, everyone is saying that it is fascinated with this woman. It just comes down to that word, "irresponsible behavior."
So I think Judge Judy is not only speaking as a judge and woman and as a mother but she`s echoing sentiments of most Americans right now.
HAMMER: And now, we are getting insight into her past, because there is this bombshell report that`s just come out from TMZ that cops have gone to Octu-mom`s home, a couple of her houses, eight times and she has already been investigated by the L.A. County Department of Children and Family Services after a neighbor reported that her kids weren`t clean and they weren`t being fed properly.
Now, I`ve got to say that that investigation ended with the allegations being unfounded. But Chris, over to you - your team at "Radar Online" has been hanging out and having a lot of access to the octu-mom at her home. Do these reports surprise you at all?
MYERS: No, they`re not surprising at all. But if you look at the reports, you know, she left her door open and the police were called. One of her kids left with her grandma, with her mom, and she couldn`t find her. And police were called.
I mean, things of this nature that aren`t - you know, as far as the not feeding and clothing the kids, that was unfounded. But, if you go inside the home, there is a lot of chaos in there. You have a couple special needs children. You have kids just running around in every direction.
And when we were in the home, during one of our tapings for our video blog on "Radar Online," there was a moment when one of the kids she couldn`t find for a few seconds, and she started to panic. So none of this is really surprising if you go in the home and see the current state.
HAMMER: OK. So not surprising. And we are hearing what you are saying about the state of the home. We are hearing about these reports of what has happened in the past.
Leslie, really, none of this bodes well. She is about to take responsibility for eight premature babies just weeks from now, does it?
MARSHALL: I can`t even imagine. I mean, this woman needs help. All I could think when I was watching her, her blog today, yesterday, is stop the cameras. Get up. Clean up. It will help you lose some pregnancy weight.
You know, clean up the house and ask for help for crying out loud. I mean I just don`t understand. If you can`t take care of six, three of which who have special needs., how are you going to take care of eight more?
No one person - Wonder Woman with her bracelets couldn`t do this. This is impossible for one woman to do alone. And this takes more. This does take a village, guys, you know what I`m saying?
HAMMER: Leslie, you are talking about her telling the cameras to shut off. I`m here to break some news to you. Octu-mom does not appear to be stepping out of the limelight any time soon.
MARSHALL: No, I know. I know.
HAMMER: Let`s, in fact, watch this brand-new video diary that she just posted today on RadarOnline.com. It`s fascinating.
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N. SULEMAN: Gentle. Today - gentle, gentle. Today, probably, seven. No, six. And then, Aidan (ph) got up and got them ready. Gentle - don`t bite me. It hurts. Show me gentle. And then Aidan (ph) got up. And then - he gets up very early. He`s up half the night, usually. And (UNINTELLIGIBLE) came here and helped me so I could rest another hour.
And then all the other kids got up.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (INAUDIBLE)
N. SULEMAN: No. The weekends I am just devoting all day to the kids. The big kids. I am trying to - gentle. Do you want to look? I love you. But you are - gentle.
UNIDENTIFIED CHILD: No. No.
N. SULEMAN: Yes, for five hours.
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HAMMER: Wow. Talk about having your hands full. OK. Chris, I`m looking at this video thinking it doesn`t paint her in a positive light at all. She doesn`t really look in control of her six kids.
Back to Leslie`s point, Chris, is anybody who is going to see this think she can handle 14?
MYERS: Well I think, you know, when you watch the video, clearly, she does have her hands full. And you see that her kids are very clingy with her. And when she was doing the blog, there was a lot of chaos, a lot of commotion. She was trying to keep it under control.
When the cameras are not rolling, she is with the kids playing with them on the ground, trying to nurture them. But, no, it doesn`t appear, you know when you have kids running around. And keep in mind, two of these kids are special needs children.
HAMMER: Right.
MYERS: And they require, you know, special attention. And so what you are seeing here is, you know, a look, the interaction, between the children and her. And it looks - right. I am worried about the kids.
HAMMER: It`s not a positive image here, you know. Leslie, are you with me that, you know, this video diary maybe not such a great idea considering what we just saw? You`ve got the piles of clothes, the kids acting out. Even if that is not how it is all the time there, should she really be doing this? She is trying to put herself in more positive light and I don`t think it is working.
MARSHALL: I agree wholeheartedly, A.J. I mean, America already has quite frankly not a love-hate relationship with her, hate-hate relationship with her. And this is going to make Americans hate her, if you will, sorry about the four-letter word, "hate," - but not dislike her even more because they see the chaos.
One thing, anybody as a parent knows, is kids need your time and they need your attention. You can`t divvy yourself up in that many slices with that many kids especially if you are taking more time away from them in doing a blog, or doing a reality show, a documentary, whatever she is going to do now and into the future.
America wants to see it but they`re going to criticize her more, not less. This doesn`t bode well. I agree.
HAMMER: Let me play a call that we got into "Showbiz on Call." Maria in California with something to say. Roll that, Charles.
MARIA, CALLER FROM CALIFORNIA: I think that she should make the reality TV show. Because regardless - the people are call and saying they`re not going to watch it, that they disagree. The truth is they will watch it. You know, regardless, if they like the lady or not, is they don`t like her and they say they`re not going to watch it.
So she should go ahead and do it because regardless what people say, they`re all going to tune in and watch it, step by step. America, just accept the fact you are all going to be watching this. You`re going to be watching that lady so just stop disagreeing with it.
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HAMMER: Let me ask you about that, Leslie. And I only have five seconds for you here. But maybe she should just go do the reality show because what`s really the difference between that and what she is doing now?
MARSHALL: Well, I will tell you. I am split on this. No more reality shows, OK? But on the other hand, she could get money from this. America will be watching. And actually, I think the kids might be - I think the house will be cleaner. The kids will be better fed and clothed simply because the crew will do that when the cameras are rolling.
HAMMER: All right. Leslie Marshall, Chris Myers, got to wrap it up there. Thank you very much for joining us tonight.
And if you want to learn more about what is happening with the very latest in the octu-mom drama you can simply go to our Web site for complete coverage, CNN.com/ShowbizTonight.
So Brooke, it looks like Jennifer Aniston may have her eye on a very iconic role.
ANDERSON: She may, A.J. Coming up, is Jennifer really angling to be a Bond girl? Jen speaks out on that and what she thinks about the fact that everybody is still asking her about Brangelina.
HAMMER: Also an absolutely outrageous ending to a reality show that has everybody talking. It is the shocking breakup on national television that has people just fired up from coast-to-coast. That is coming up.
ANDERSON: And a huge night for Britney Spears. Her concert tour starts tonight in New Orleans. And there is word that the one-and-only Michael Jackson may be following in her footsteps. This is SHOWBIZ TONIGHT on HLN.
HAMMER: Now, the "SHOWBIZ News Ticker" - more stories from the SHOWBIZ TONIGHT newsroom making news right now.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I wish more than anything that last day, you would just let me go, instead of doing this to me.
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ANDERSON: Tonight, "The Bachelor" breakup that has men and women across the country fighting mad. Was it fair for the bachelor to propose and then pull the old switcheroo?
Welcome back to SHOWBIZ TONIGHT. I`m Brooke Anderson in Hollywood.
The bachelor`s big diss is one of two stories new right now tonight. Tonight, big buzz over the scandalous bachelor breakup. Was it wrong for single dad, Jason Mesnick, to propose, only to dump the woman on TV?
And Aniston, Jennifer Aniston. Could she possibly be the next Bond girl? And what is she saying now about her breakup with Brad Pitt?
Joining me tonight in Miami, Steve Santagati who is with the Web site "BadBoysFinishFirst.com." And tonight, in New York, Carolina Bermudez who is a senior editor with "In Touch Weekly."
I want to begin with the story that everybody is buzzing about. Fans of "The Bachelor" are furious after last night`s season finale. Almost 16 million people watched single dad, Jason Mesnick, drop bachelorette Molly and propose to Melissa. Then, just 10 minutes later, this happened. Watch.
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JASON MESNICK, "THE BACHELOR": I think the worst thing in the world is to live your life with regrets.
MELISSA, CONTESTANT, "THE BACHELOR": To me, getting engaged and finding that person was the one, once in a lifetime thing, and you took that from me. You took it. I wish more than anything that last day, you would have just let me go instead of doing this to me.
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ANDERSON: All right. So Jason dumps Melissa on national TV and then he un-dumps Molly, granted weeks of time passed in between the proposal and the breakup. But Steve, fans of the show are absolutely outraged. Can you understand why?
STEVE SANTAGATI, "BADBOYSFINISHFIRST.COM": I can. Do I understand why? Yes. Should they be? No. Because he did, Melissa - he dumped Melissa, right?
ANDERSON: Yes.
SANTAGATI: I want to make sure I get that straight.
ANDERSON: Yes, yes.
SANTAGATI: He did Melissa the biggest favor ever, because so many relationships - and I get these E-mails every single day from women - are living a lie. This guy, Jason, actually thought it through and said to himself, "You know what? I don`t - "
BERMUDEZ: No, he didn`t, Steve. No, he didn`t.
SANTAGATI: Hold - zip it. Wait. Wait. Wait.
BERMUDEZ: No, he didn`t, Steve. No, he didn`t. He acted like a giant turd.
SANTAGATI: Let me tell you -
BERMUDEZ: He could not have proposed at all, OK? This guy took this girl on national television and humiliated her.
SANTAGATI: Ladies, you are just as bad as we are. You have run away from the altar as many times as men have. Let me tell you something -
BERMUDEZ: Oh, please -
SANTAGATI: He broke up with her at the right time, not a year, five years down the road, maybe there`s a child involved.
ANDERSON: But he broke up with her on national television, Steve.
SANTAGATI: Who cares? They both signed on to be in a reality show. A reality show. Who cares?
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BERMUDEZ: He played like he was a nice guy. He turned out to be a jerk. That`s the thing.
ANDERSON: I agree. I agree with Carolina. Seemed like a nice guy.
BERMUDEZ: Totally.
ANDERSON: And what he did - completely cruel.
SANTAGATI: Oh, you guys. Are you that blind to men? Are you really that blind to men?
BERMUDEZ: Oh no, you guys are all the same, apparently, because you`re on his team. I think this guy comes off looking like a loser. Any girl that dates him is an idiot. What is Molly thinking? He just dumped this girl on national TV after six weeks of dating her. What is he going to do with her?
ANDERSON: Yes. And you know, Melissa obviously -
SANTAGATI: Do we have a right to change our minds?
ANDERSON: Well that`s true. People do change their minds. But how he did it ...
SANTAGATI: Oh, gee. Thanks.
ANDERSON: ... on national TV ...
BERMUDEZ: Right.
ANDERSON: ... just heartless and cruel. And Melissa, obviously, very hurt, handed her diamond back to Jason. Molly took him back with open arms. He`s happy. She`s happy. But, fans are still up in arms.
Carolina, it is a reality show. But why do you think people are taking this so personally? You and I are, for sure.
BERMUDEZ: I know. I am so angry about this.
SANTAGATI: Because you have both been dumped.
BERMUDEZ: No. You know what? We watched this guy for over a year. We`ve connected with him. You know, he got dumped by Diana. Then he had his own show. He seemed like he wore his heart on his sleeve. Everybody was invested in the single father. And he could have done the right thing. And he could have said, "You know what? I`m confused. I can`t choose either of these women."
Brad did it a couple of seasons ago on "The Bachelor." He could have taken that road. You know what? He looks like a jerk. I feel like he was callous. He was mean. And what he did was so insensitive to Melissa. I can`t - I can`t take it. I really - I am so angry.
SANTAGATI: Lady. Ladies. Ladies. Am I the only one here?
ANDERSON: I`ll give you the last word, Steve.
SANTAGATI: Am I the only one that works in television? Do you ever hear of what`s called producer-coaching? Who knows? Give me a break. It`s better that she gets the hurt now than five years down the road.
ANDERSON: All right, you two. I know you guys are really fired up. But we`ve got to move on to Jennifer Aniston. Is she really trying to be the next Bond girl?
In the April issue of "Elle U.K." Aniston wants more physical movie roles, quote, "I get offered funny, quirky, pretty roles. I`d love to do an action movie, James Bond, glamour, Daniel Craig."
OK. We`ve seen Ursula Andres, Halle Berry, Jane Seymour, just to name a few. Steve, does Aniston fit the Bond girl mold?
SANTAGATI: No. You know - look, she wants to change her image and that is smart, OK? But she has got to start a little bit slower. You know, she is not going to play Lara Croft because we`re just never going to believe it.
Maybe she should go into like a horror movie film thing, play a villain in a horror movie and then try to do that. She`s just never going to do it. She just doesn`t have the bad girl edge to her. We all know her as Rachel and we will forever know her as Rachel.
ANDERSON: And interesting that you brought up Lara Croft, Angelina Jolie`s character, Steve.
SANTAGATI: First thought.
ANDERSON: Well, I can`t say that I completely disagree with you about the Bond talk. But you know, why don`t we give her a chance.
But in this magazine, it wasn`t all James Bond talk with Aniston. Once again, she is answering questions about Brad Pitt. She tells "Elle, U.K.," quote, "No matter what I say, things will always be taken out of context and misinterpreted, will always turned around to make it seem as though I won`t let something go or that I just keep talking about it over and over. I don`t owe anybody anything. I don`t owe anybody my side of the story. There are no sides."
Carolina, she sounds fed up. Does she have every right to be?
BERMUDEZ: No. She needs to take her own advice. If doesn`t keep commenting on it, then people won`t be twisting her words. All she has to tell an interviewer or anybody that she`s going to be, you know, talking to about the whole situation is, "No comment." And it will die right there.
ANDERSON: And we will leave it there for now. Carolina Bermudez, Steve Santagati, great to see you. Thanks.
HAMMER: All right. So John McCain`s daughter says the presidential campaign ruined her love life. Yes, 24-year-old Meghan McCain writes on her blog that dating is tough now because she is turned off not only by Obama supporters but also by her dad`s obsessive supporters. On "The View," the ladies say they get it.
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SHERRI SHEPHERD, CO-HOST, "THE VIEW": It`s like when you are on a date and then they want to wax on about John McCain and what he has done. Or they want to keep going about Obama. That would get kind of tiring.
JOY BEHAR, CO-HOST, "THE VIEW": And she said also she doesn`t want to date any body who doesn`t like her father. She says that, too. So that eliminates a lot of people.
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We`re not going to be dating there for a few minutes (UNINTELLIGIBLE) husbands. Let`s say you were fixed up on a blind date or you didn`t like the guy.
The real buzz killer, and the way to keep them away from you is to start talking politics and get into an argument about - you get into a political argument. Suddenly, all the sex is out of their heads. So that`s a little tip for you girls.
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HAMMER: Good tip, Joy. Meghan McCain says she hates the idea of some guy bragging that he is going on a date with John McCain`s daughter.
ANDERSON: It`s a big night for Britney Spears. Her "Circus" tour kicks off in New Orleans tonight, her first tour in five years. And now, there is word that Michael Jackson could soon be hitting the stage too. That would be huge. This is SHOWBIZ TONIGHT on HLN.
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HAMMER: Thank you, Charles "The Circus" Wagman (ph). And welcome back to SHOWBIZ TONIGHT. I`m A.J. Hammer in New York.
And it is Britney Spears` big night. Britney returns to the stage tonight with the launch of her "Circus" tour in New Orleans.
Now, the tour is being sponsored by Candies, which has announced that Britney is its new spokeswoman. Britney is going to appear in Candies ads for Kohl`s department store in a print, TV, in store and online marketing campaign.
And on her Web site, Britney.com, there`s actually a video that gives a sneak peak at the rehearsal to the "Circus" tour.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Hello. We`re so glad to be doing this with you - a tour and the Candies campaign.
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HAMMER: A lot of people are very excited about this. It`s Britney`s first tour in five years. She`s going to hit 27 cities in the U.S. before she heads off to Europe in the summertime.
ANDERSON: Michael Jackson might be the stage as well. British radio reports say that will play a string of shows in London this summer. Jackson spokeswoman says the reports are speculative.
But she did say a special announcement about Jackson will be made on Thursday at an arena in London, the same one where Britney Spears is scheduled to play in June on her "Circus" tour.
Jackson`s last live performance in Britain was at the 2006 World Music Awards. We will keep you posted.
HAMMER: It would be really interesting to see how that would do.
All right. We have been asking you to vote on our SHOWBIZ TONIGHT question of the day. It is this - "Rihanna and Chris Brown: Would it be a bad idea for them to reconcile?" Here`s how the votes have been going so far. Pretty one-sided here - 86 percent of you say yes, bad idea; 14 percent of you don`t think it`s a bad idea.
Some of the E-mails we got include one from Amber in Alabama who writes, "Rihanna will ruin her image if she continues a relationship with Chris. She`s a young 21-year-old. Leave him and move on."
Amanda from Colorado writes, "I think that the love they share with each other is what they need to focus on. The eyes of the public are reading too much into this."
Thank you very much for your emails. And that is it for SHOWBIZ TONIGHT. I`m A.J. Hammer in New York.
ANDERSON: Thank you so much for watching. I`m Brooke Anderson in Hollywood. Don`t forget, you can catch SHOWBIZ TONIGHT on the 11:00s - 11:00 p.m. Eastern and Pacific, and in the morning, 11:00 a.m. Eastern on HLN.
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