Return to Transcripts main page
Showbiz Tonight
Shawn Johnson`s Stalker Caught on Tape; Keira Knightley`s Bone- Chilling Anti-Domestic Violence PSA; Michelle Hugs the Queen; Octomom Attacked
Aired April 02, 2009 - 23:00 ET
THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.
A.J. HAMMER, CO-HOST: Now, on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT, caught on tape by cops - the alleged stalker of "Dancing with the Stars" contestant Shawn Johnson. Tonight, SHOWBIZ TONIGHT with the just released startling video.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It`s unbelievable. Basically he tells them exactly what he`s going to do.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
HAMMER: The alleged stalker stopped just days before being arrested for allegedly stalking Johnson. So why did cops let him go even after he revealed his disturbing plan?
Tonight, Keira Knightley`s bone-chilling domestic violence video. The disturbing new video of Keira brutally punched, kicked and beaten. Tonight, we are showing you the video and asking if Keira is sending a message to Rihanna.
The octomom attacked. Tonight, why did someone throw a baby seat and bust up her car? Plus, the octomom`s former publicist. He called her greedy and nuts. But why is he now defending her? We`ll ask him in the exclusive interview you`ll see only on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT.
TV`s most provocative entertainment news show starts right now.
(MUSIC)
Hello, I`m A.J. Hammer, broadcasting tonight and every night from New York City.
BROOKE ANDERSON, CO-HOST: Hi there, everyone. I`m Brooke Anderson coming to you from Hollywood. And tonight, caught on tape, the star stalker scare.
HAMMER: Yes, Brooke. What we`re about to show you is just absolutely unbelievable. Get this, the guy arrested for allegedly stalking "Dancing with the Stars" contestant and Olympic gold medalist Shawn Johnson is stopped by police and he reveals that he`s headed to track down Shawn and the cops let him go.
Now, you`re about to see this whole thing play out for yourself because it was all recorded on one of those cop dashboard video cameras. And SHOWBIZ TONIGHT can tell you this is definitely making big news right now.
(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)
(voice over): Olympic gold medalist Shawn Johnson continues to strut her stuff on "Dancing with the Stars" while this man, Robert O`Ryan, remains locked up in L.A., accused of driving from Florida to California to stalk the 17-year-old star.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You are to have absolutely no contact with Shawn Johnson.
HAMMER: Now, SHOWBIZ TONIGHT can tell you if you thought O`Ryan, watch how scary his alleged obsession with the teen star looks on tape.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE POLICE OFFICER: Who is she?
ROBERT O`RYAN, SHAWN JOHNSON`S ALLEGED STALKER: Shawn Johnson. She`s an Olympic gymnast. She`s on TV now.
HAMMER: SHOWBIZ TONIGHT obtained this shocking new dash cam police video from Alabama TV station, WKRG. It showed him getting pulled over in Alabama five days before his arrest for carrying guns and allegedly stalking Johnson. And get this, he tells the cops exactly what he`s up to and they still let him go.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE POLICE OFFICER: Where are you headed with all this stuff?
O`RYAN: California.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE POLICE OFFICER: Really?
O`RYAN: I`m meeting her there. I`ve been communicating with her. And basically, I`m going to try to get her to marry me.
MIKE WALTERS, TMZ: It`s unbelievable. Basically, he tells them exactly what he`s going to do.
HAMMER: Mike Walters of TMZ tells SHOWBIZ TONIGHT he`s shocked at how much detail O`Ryan gives the cops.
WALTERS: What`s interesting on the tape is that Robert O`Ryan is actually communicating some of the stuff that was in the restraining order that her parents filed for her, like that he`s communicating with her through ESP, that she`s talking to him through the television, that they`re supposed to go, be married and even have a child together, which is the creepiest part.
HAMMER: In the traffic stop, O`Ryan reveals his scary obsession with Johnson.
O`RYAN: I know it sounds a little bit crazy, but my intuition tells me that we`re going to have a beautiful relationship together.
WALTERS: He does get several tickets for registration and insurance, but they let him go. And obviously he ended up at the set of "Dancing with the Stars."
HAMMER: After he made it to California five days later, O`Ryan was arrested after allegedly sneaking onto the CBS studio lot where "Dancing with the Stars" is taped. Los Angeles police say they found two loaded guns, duct tape and love letters to Shawn Johnson in his car. And Johnson`s parents fear O`Ryan was planning to kidnap her.
WALTER: If he would have got any further than where he got, we would be talking about a whole different tragic situation.
HAMMER: But Loxley, Alabama, police chief says there`s no way the cop could have known O`Ryan posed a potential danger to Johnson. He says not only had the officer never heard of Shawn Johnson, it`s not unusual to find folks who say they are in love with people they never met.
CHIP CASON, LOXLEY, ALABAMA POLICE CHIEF: Today with Internet dating and so forth like that, it`s not uncommon to encounter people that are traveling for miles across states and so forth to go meet people that they`ve met on the Internet for the first time.
HAMMER: Now, a terrified Johnson reportedly has hired more security. And O`Ryan has become the newest classic example of a creepy celebrity obsession.
(END VIDEOTAPE)
Well, O`Ryan is being held on a $220,000 bond. And if he does get out of jail, a restraining order bans him from getting anywhere close to Johnson and her family.
Well, tonight, the octomom`s former publicist tells all to SHOWBIZ TONIGHT. He`s here to give us an up close and personal peek inside Nadya Suleman`s world and why he`s gone from calling her "nuts" to defending her.
And then there is big octomom news tonight. Police say somebody took a baby seat off of her porch and bashed it into the back window of her minivan. No one was hurt. Police are still looking for suspects.
SHOWBIZ TONIGHT learned that guards will now be protecting the octomom`s home and police are in fact stepping up patrols in the neighborhood. And all of this happened just as Nadya Suleman brought home baby number seven of her octuplets.
Somebody who has been there right there in the thick of it all is Nadya Suleman`s former publicist, Victor Munoz, who joins me tonight from Hollywood. Victor, I appreciate you being with us.
VICTOR MUNOZ, NADYA SULEMAN`S FORMER PUBLICIST: No, problem.
HAMMER: So you made big news, Victor, when you quit working for Nadya Suleman early last month. You called her nuts. You called her greedy. And last week, you were out defending her, claiming he was being bullied by those nurses who were brought in to provide free around-the-clock care.
Victor, do you think still she`s nuts and greedy?
MUNOZ: You know, I`ve always said the situation is nuts, everybody around her is getting greedy and I did leave for personal issues. Is she crazy? I don`t know. Is she a good mother? I believe so.
I was never against her. At this point, I`m not with her. I think the choices she`s making are the wrong choices. As far as Angels coming down and taking care of them, I was always against that situation. They weren`t equipped to come to La Habra to take care of these children.
HAMMER: OK. Well, there certainly has been a lot of controversy over her firing. And when you quit, you said it was just a free-for-all over at the octomom`s house.
Now, of course, she has moved into a new, bigger home. But from what you experienced, given that seven babies are now there, are you still concerned about what`s going on at Suleman`s house?
MUNOZ: You know, I`ll always be concerned. I mean, I`ve grown to know those six older children and I`ve met the eight babies from time to time at the hospital. And I can appreciate what they`re going through, and I think it`s sad.
You know, that house wasn`t my first choice, obviously. I thought they need to be behind a gate myself. Unfortunately, with the time restraints we had with the babies coming home, that just wasn`t going to happen. Is she going to move in a year or two? I hope so. Is she going to find herself something better where she would hide herself a little bit better? I hope so.
HAMMER: So Victor, you know, I understand you`re concerned. We`re all concerned. But I guess what I really want to know is do you think based on what you saw over there, that we really need to be concerned? Not just the fact that we care about what happens to these kids but that maybe not enough is being done for the protection of them right now?
MUNOZ: Not enough is being done. There should have been a lot. There should have been security that night. I had that set up. There were many security companies that wanted to offer their time to come down for that special night. And when I left everything over to them, obviously, they didn`t follow through.
And I don`t see them following through with everything that I left for them behind. I mean, you can see a big difference from when I left Nadya to Nadya now. She`s spinning out of control. She`s on TV every day. She`s doing comedy radio stations in the morning.
And that`s not what she should be doing right now. She should be focusing on her children, taking care of them 24/7.
HAMMER: Well, let`s talk about that aspect of it, because this is of grave concern to so many people. Now, in an exclusive interview right here on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT, Suleman`s lawyer did confirm she is, in fact, being paid for interviews generating some revenue. That includes these almost daily video blogs that she`s been doing on "Radar Online."
And now, there are reports, as it has really been all along, that she`s planning a reality show. Victor, do you see any of this as being a good idea?
MUNOZ: You know what? A year, two years down the road, a reality show, sure. I mean, we all know she`s not going to go back to work. I mean, that`s not going to happen. She has now 14 kids. Hopefully, she does finish school like she wants to. But going back to work - that`s not going to happen. She needs to be on TV if she`s going to make enough to support those 14 children.
HAMMER: But does she need to be on TV because she needs to be on TV? Because I`m certainly not alone in the idea that she is apparently just obsessed with being a celebrity and being in the public eye. You got to know her one on one. What do you think?
MUNOZ: Well, it`s a double edged sword. She wants to be on television. She loves the attention. I mean, she does.
HAMMER: Yes.
MUNOZ: And she`s doing it. I mean, everybody sees her. You know, she`s on blogs every day now, right? And I don`t see her ever wanting to stop.
HAMMER: Well, let me ask you this, given all that we know, given the kind of behavior that we`re seeing, do you see her - or believe that she can be a good mother to these 14 kids?
MUNOZ: If she settles down and she stops doing all these blogs and interviews and just keeps it a little bit at a time. I mean, obviously, she needs to do them. She needs to bring in revenue. I think, you know, for a while she was doing a good job of separating them.
Every day, I don`t think it`s a good idea. Should it stop soon? I hope.
HAMMER: Yes. Well, let`s hope she can pull that together. I mean, we all are rooting for - no one else - certainly, the kids. Victor Munoz, I do appreciate you being with us. Thanks.
MUNOZ: No problem.
HAMMER: Now, I`d like to hear from you. Here`s our SHOWBIZ TONIGHT question of the day - "Octomom`s Car Vandalized: Do you feel sorry for her?" Vote at CNN.com/ShowbizTonight or E-mail showbiztonight@cnn.com.
Brooke, as we move on, you know, a lot of stars have been talking about Chris Brown`s alleged beating of Rihanna, of course.
ANDERSON: That`s right, A.J. And tonight, I want to show you the startling and graphic new video of Keira Knightley playing a woman getting attacked. Is there a message here for Rihanna?
This domestic violence video is absolutely bone-chilling, Keira punched, kicked. Tonight, we are asking, is there any connection to Chris Brown`s alleged beating of Rihanna and did Keira go too far with the video?
HAMMER: Tonight, Barbara Walters defending Madonna. Barbara just outraged at the criticism Madonna is getting for trying to adopt another African child. You have got to hear Barbara`s explosive words.
ANDERSON: And the royal no-no? Tonight, the controversy over First Lady Michelle Obama hugging Queen Elizabeth. This is SHOWBIZ TONIGHT on HLN.
And now, the "SHOWBIZ News Ticker" - more stories from the SHOWBIZ TONIGHT newsroom making news right now.
TEXT: TLC buys rights to U.S. Airways hero pilot "Sully" Sullenberger`s story. CBS may replace "Guiding Light" with new version of "$25,000 Pyramid."
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
ANDERSON: Uh-oh. Did Michelle Obama commit a royal no-no? Here`s the first lady hugging the queen of England. Now, etiquette says you aren`t supposed to touch the queen. But it looks like queen Elizabeth hugged back.
Welcome back to SHOWBIZ TONIGHT. I`m Brooke Anderson. Well, this touching, no-touching-the-queen thing has really caused a lot of controversy. And today, for the first time, Buckingham Palace is speaking out about it.
Everything was fine when President Obama and Michelle first met Queen Elizabeth. Then, the touching started. Can you say a little awkward?
But today, Buckingham Palace press office told us it`s all good, quote, "It was a mutual and spontaneous display of affection and appreciation between the Queen and Michelle Obama. The London Summit reception at Buckingham palace was an informal occasion."
ANDERSON: I think the hug was a pretty nice touch actually. And First Lady Michelle Obama was part of another big meet and greet, the so-called "First Wives Club." The G-20 summit in London, a meeting of the biggest worldwide government financial players, is also a time for the G-20 wives to hang out. In addition to Michelle Obama, "Harry Potter" writer J.K. Rowling, supermodel Naomi Campbell, it`s a star-studded guest list.
Here`s CNN`s Erica Hill for SHOWBIZ TONIGHT.
(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)
ERICA HILL, CNN CORRESPONDENT: The first image of the Obamas in Europe quickly making a splash across the U.K. Wednesday morning, while the first couple was already onto the next photo-op at number 10 Downing Street.
The president and Mrs. Obama starting their day at the prime minister`s residence where the men talked shop and the ladies shared a quick chat before heading out to Maggie`s Cancer Care Center, where they celebrated the facility`s first anniversary.
A few hours later, after a brief visit with the queen, the Obamas went with the Browns. He for a working dinner with the G-20 heads-of-state; she for what`s being labeled the "First Wives Club" dinner, a powerful group of spouses that could ultimately be a major asset to the first lady and to her agenda.
CARL SFERRAZZA ANTHONY, FIRST LADIES LIBRARY HISTORIAN: Sometimes, there are issues that are global, that have no boundaries, and it`s often the sort of interesting groups of first ladies, almost an old girl network, that you oftentimes see forming where first ladies will work together from different countries to combat a problem.
HILL: Mrs. Obama could also find an ally in some of the nonpolitical guests. Well-known British women invited by Mrs. Brown including "Harry Potter" author J.K. Rowling - the president is a big fan of the boy wizard - and two-time Olympic gold medalist Jane Kelly Homes. Mrs. Obama was seated between the two.
Jamie Oliver, the so-called naked chef, prepared the menu. One report said the Food Network star would have to surrender his phone upon arrival for security reasons which makes Naomi Campbell`s invitation all the more interesting.
The supermodel, known as much for throwing her cell phone at an assistant as for her time on the catwalk, seemed (INAUDIBLE). One former model not in attendance - Carla Bruni Sarkozy. The wife of the French president charmed the Brits last year with her demure curtsy to the queen, but gave plenty of advanced warning she wouldn`t be in London this week.
TINA BROWN, FOUNDER, "THE DAILY BEAST": I think she recognizes that next to Michelle, she`s going to be badly compared because she`ll suddenly seem like a very high-style, very vogue kind of girl. Whereas Michelle`s point right now in the middle of this terrible recession is, "I`m real. I`m authentic. I`m bright."
ANDERSON: That was CNN`s Erica Hill for SHOWBIZ TONIGHT.
HAMMER: So, Brooke, the "Showbiz on Call" phone lines have just been ringing day and night. A lot of people are calling in about Madonna`s controversial adoption of another African child. In fact, look at this. The "Showbiz on Call" operators humming that song "Africa" by Toto all day long while they`re working.
ANDERSON: Oh, I like that song, A.J. Well, we got a call into "Showbiz on Call" from Nancy in New Jersey who says that Madonna should be able to adopt from wherever she wants.
(BEGIN AUDIO CLIP)
NANCY, CALLER FROM NEW JERSEY: I have no idea why on earth people think they have a right to say that Madonna needs to adopt from within the United States versus internationally. How many of these people themselves have adopted? And if they feel this strongly, they should adopt themselves. And I am a domestically adopted person and so is my sister and we are adopting internationally right now.
(END AUDIO CLIP)
HAMMER: All right, Nancy. Thank you for you call. We also heard from Raj, calling into "Showbiz on Call" from Pennsylvania, who totally agrees with Nancy.
(BEGIN AUDIO CLIP)
QUESTION: I think it`s terrific what she`s doing. I think it`s great she`s going to these impoverished nations and she`s helping show children a better way of life. And she`s bringing them to America and she`s also bringing children from other nations and the children from our country together, you know, and showing unity. It doesn`t matter where you`re from. You`re a human being and everyone needs love and a family.
(END AUDIO CLIP)
ANDERSON: Thank you for that, Raj. Call us at "Showbiz on Call" and let us know what you think about this or anything else that is on your mind.
HAMMER: The "Showbiz on Call" phone lines are open all the time - 1-888- SBT-BUZZ; that`s 1-888-729-2899.
ANDERSON: A.J., Chris Brown`s alleged beating of Rihanna has sent shockwaves through Hollywood.
HAMMER: Yes, Brooke. So many people just stunned by the allegations. And tonight, we want to know - is Keira Knightley sending a message to Rihanna in her brand-new domestic violence video?
This tape is just so disturbing. Keira getting punched and kicked. And tonight, we`re asking, is there a Chris Brown-Rihanna connection? And does Keira go too far with the video?
ANDERSON: Also, the octomom attacked. Tonight, why did someone throw a baby seat and bust up her car? Is the octomom in danger? And get this, will she be looking for love on a reality TV show?
HAMMER: And is John Mayer really about to release a juicy tell-all song about his relationship with Jennifer Aniston? This is SHOWBIZ TONIGHT on HLN.
Now, the "SHOWBIZ News Ticker" - more stories from the SHOWBIZ TONIGHT newsroom making news right now.
TEXT: Brad Pitt-Quentin Tarantino movie, "Inglorious Bastards," to premiere at Cannes. NetFlix delivers its 2 billionth movie, gives that person a lifetime membership.
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
STAR JONES, FORMER CO-HOST, "THE VIEW": I`m so sorry that I placed a burden on my colleagues. I never asked them to lie. And I think the audience thought that they would be pushed away also.
HAMMER: Star Jones finally revealing on Oprah that she hid the truth about having gastric bypass surgery. Well, that caused big problems when she was on "The View" with both her fans and her co-hosts.
Welcome back to SHOWBIZ TONIGHT. I`m A.J. Hammer.
ANDERSON: And I`m Brooke Anderson. And A.J. that scandal about her weight pretty much led to Star getting fired from "The View."
HAMMER: Yes. That was it, Brooke. The way the whole thing went down, really a complete nightmare for everybody involved.
Well, this morning, Star`s former "View" co-workers reacted to her dramatic confessions on "Oprah." Let me tell you, it kind of seemed to me that they`re not really completely over what Star did. Let`s watch.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
WALTERS: Our former co-host, Star Jones, was on with Oprah yesterday, looking very good, and admitting that when she was on with us, that she`d had a gastric bypass and we had to keep it a secret. She seems in very good form now in talking about it. What did you think?
SHERRI SHEPHERD, CO-HOST, "THE VIEW": I thought today I`m just going to take a bypass on it.
(LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE)
What can you say? It was 10 years with the girl. We had our ups and downs and, you know, good luck to her. As they say in French (sic), "Gai gezunterhait" (ph).
ELISABETH HASSELBECK, CO-HOST: She seems like she`s happy, which I think is a good thing. She does seem healthy and happy. And I think that`s a good thing.
WALTERS: I thought she was very honest and she seemed to be in good shape. And you know, we really do wish her well.
HASSELBECK: Yes.
BEHAR: We had to cover for her. We had to cover for her. I don`t know if you would call that a lie - I wouldn`t call it a lie. But she did have her bypass and we had to say it was dieting and exercise, which it wasn`t. So now we all know the truth. So good. Let her go and have a happy life.
(APPLAUSE)
HASSELBECK: (UNINTELLIGIBLE) of her. You know -
WALTERS: She wasn`t exactly Joan Crawford, right?
BEHAR: No. No. Of course not.
WALTERS: Well, I do really wish her well. We had very happy years with her and she`s been extremely honest and she looked great. And that made me happy.
BEHAR: If you`re happy, we`re happy, Babs.
SHERRI SHEPHERD, CO-HOST, "THE VIEW": Yes, we want you to be happy.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
HAMMER: See, everybody is happy. Even though "The View" wishes Star well, I`d be kind of surprised, Brooke, if they had Star on their Christmas card list. Just (UNINTELLIGIBLE).
ANDERSON: Yes. Me, too, A.J. All right. Now, the SHOWBIZ lineup. Here`s what`s coming up at the bottom of the hour on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT.
The octomom`s car vandalized, a car seat thrown at her van. Are the octomom and her kids in brand-new danger? Plus, will the octomom be looking for love on a reality TV show?
Keira Knightley`s shocking new domestic violence video. Is she sending a message to Rihanna and is Keira going too far with the video?
And is John Mayer really about to put out a song revealing the juicy details of his relationship with Jennifer Aniston? This is SHOWBIZ TONIGHT on HLN.
HAMMER: And now, the "SHOWBIZ News Ticker" - more stories from the SHOWBIZ TONIGHT newsroom making news right now.
TEXT: No Doubt, Dave Matthews and Jennifer Hudson to perform on NBC`s "Today" concerts. "Transformers" Megan Fox set to play opposite Mickey Rourke in new movie.
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
HAMMER: Now, on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT, shocking video. Keira Knightley stars in a disturbing new anti-domestic violence ad. Does it have any link to Rihanna`s alleged beating by Chris Brown?
Octodanger? The octomom`s minivan smashed. Now, brand-new safety concerns. Is her family in jeopardy?
Plus, more stories breaking from the "SHOWBIZ News Ticker."
TV`s most provocative entertainment news show continues right now.
(MUSIC)
Welcome back to SHOWBIZ TONIGHT. It is 30 minutes past the hour. I`m A.J. Hammer, broadcasting tonight and every night from New York City.
ANDERSON: And I`m Brooke Anderson, coming to you tonight from Hollywood.
And tonight, Keira Knightley`s shocking domestic violence video message. I`ve got to tell you what you are about to see is intentionally violent, graphic, and downright disturbing. And it`s making big news right now.
On the heels of the alleged beating of Rihanna by Chris Brown, Keira Knightley stars in a brand new PSA that depicts Keira being violently beaten by her onscreen boyfriend.
The charity behind the PSA hasn`t said whether there`s a connection between Keira`s ad and the alleged Chris Brown-Rihanna incident. But get this, the PSA will run in theaters next Monday, April 6th, the same day Brown will be arraigned in court.
And the PSA is adding fuel to the already burning debate surrounding Chris Brown and Rihanna. Will it help push Rihanna to step forward and speak out against domestic violence?
Joining me tonight in New York, Lisa Bloom, who is an anchor for the legal network, "In Session." Also tonight in New York, Midwin Charles of the law firm, Midwin Charles and Associates in New York.
Midwin, Lisa, Keira Knightley and Joe Wright, who directed the movie "Atonement," volunteered their time to shoot this PSA for the charity, Women`s Aid. As we mentioned, it`s violent, intentionally disturbing. Take a look.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Hey, your lucky day.
KEIRA KNIGHTLEY: Hi. Sweetheart? Oh, you`re here. You`re hurt. Here.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: How was he today - your leading man?
KNIGHTLEY: (UNINTELLIGIBLE), please.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: How did it feel? Did it feel real?
KNIGHTLEY: It`s my job. Sorry, we didn`t agree to that. That wasn`t in the script.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You stupid -
KNIGHTLEY: We didn`t agree to this. Stop! No, no!
(END VIDEO CLIP)
ANDERSON: Very difficult to watch. Lisa Bloom, what do you think? Does that PSA go too far or do we need to see the realities of domestic violence here?
LISA BLOOM, ANCHOR, "IN SESSION": The PSA is disturbing but domestic violence is disturbing. And I salute them for not tiptoeing around it. This is what domestic violence looks like.
You know, in Rihanna`s case, she accused him of punching her in the face over and over again, of choking her to the point where she began to lose consciousness. We have to talk about and we have to depict exactly what it is. And I salute Keira Knightley for doing this.
ANDERSON: What about you, Midwin? Do you applaud them for sending this very, very graphic, but also I think a very important message?
MIDWIN CHARLES, ATTORNEY, MIDWIN CHARLES AND ASSOCIATES: I do. And what is the most disturbing thing about what happened with Rihanna and Chris Brown is how many young women think that it`s OK.
There was so many women who said that Rihanna deserved it. So this issue is pervasive. It is serious, and this PSA sheds a lot of light on it.
ANDERSON: Now, we don`t know if Keira decided to make this PSA in reaction to Rihanna. But she did say, quote, "I wanted to talk part in this advertisement for Women`s Aid because while domestic violence exists in every section of society, we rarely hear about it. We may not think we know someone who has experienced domestic violence, but this does not mean that it is not happening."
Lisa Bloom, do you think that people like Keira and other stars in Hollywood saw what happened to Rihanna and they don`t want anyone to forget?
BLOOM: You know what? There are starlets who get drunk and drive the wrong way on the freeway and spend their nights clubbing. And then, there`s real stars like Keira Knightley who has brains as well as beauty, who has the guts to take a stand on an important social issue. Good for her.
This is a true role model - Keira Knightley. Not all these other ones that we spend a lot of time talking about. Good for her for doing for free, by the way, something that`s this meaningful and important.
ANDERSON: Yes, donating her time and energy for this. Well, the plan is reportedly for this PSA to be played in movie theaters next Monday. That is on the same day that Chris Brown is scheduled to go to court to be arraigned. Midwin Charles, it sounds like it could be more than a coincidence, doesn`t it?
CHARLES: It sounds like it. It really does. If he`s going to be arraigned that day or he`s going to be sentenced rather, it sounds as though it is a coincidence. I mean, why is it of the airing on another day? But look, anything that sheds light on an issue that is so serious and so important as domestic violence is a good thing.
ANDERSON: Absolutely. Well, come April 6th, Lisa, a lot of people are going to be sitting there in the movie theaters munching on their popcorn and they may not see this very graphic PSA coming at them. So is that a good idea?
BLOOM: Well, look, a lot of movies are far more graphic than this.
ANDERSON: True.
BLOOM: And by the way, this is a little bit abstract and strange with this whole idea that she`s an actress. Then, she`s not an actress. So it`s kind of artistic. But most movies are a lot more violent than this. And if it`s disturbing, good.
I hope it will shake people to their foundations and think domestic violence is serious. It`s not the woman`s fault. We have to do something. And people will look up to Keira Knightley are only going to embrace the issue all the more.
ANDERSON: Absolutely. And I`m sure the PSA will not be shown prior to any G or PG rated ...
BLOOM: Right.
ANDERSON: ... animated kids` films or anything like that. And you know, Keira is not the only one to fire up the discussion about domestic violence and Chris Brown and Rihanna. Let`s not forget this ad created by college students for DoSomething.org depicting the graphic, blow-by-blow account of what allegedly happened between Chris Brown and Rihanna. Take a look.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: She picked up her cell phone and faked a phone call, "I`m on my way home. Make sure the cops are there when I get there." He looked at her and stated, "You just did the stupidest thing ever. Now I`m really going to kill you." He resumed punching her. She bent over at the waist in an attempt to protect her face and head from the barrage of punches.
He snatched the phone out of her hand and threw it. He put her in a head lock with his right arm. He held her close and bit her left ear. He stopped the vehicle.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
ANDERSON: Hard to watch but it`s allegedly what happened. Lisa, between that PSA and Keira Knightley`s new video, is this just more proof that the shockwaves of what happened to Rihanna are just not going to go away and Hollywood has really latched onto it?
BLOOM: Whatever allegedly happened to Rihanna is tragic and horrific. But the silver lining is we`ve all been talking about domestic violence for months now and college students have been motivated to make a PSA. Big movie stars like Keira Knightley are making a PSA. And one day, I hope that Rihanna will see the light.
ANDERSON: Yes.
BLOOM: She`ll come to her senses and she`ll be starring in a PSA about domestic violence.
ANDERSON: Well, to that end, you know, she hasn`t spoken publicly really about what happened that night in February. Midwin, do you think the pressure is just going to build to a point where she will have no choice but to come forward?
CHARLES: It`s difficult to say. I`ve said this before on this show, she`s a victim here. There`s no preordained way for her to react or act.
ANDERSON: Sure.
CHARLES: She shouldn`t be forced to come out and speak on anything if she doesn`t. What she should be doing hopefully is getting therapy and counseling for what happened to her. So it`s difficult to say.
ANDERSON: Yes. She has to heal herself -
BLOOM: Well, there is one thing that she should be doing.
(CROSS TALK)
ANDERSON: Well, I do have to end it there. I`m really sorry. But you guys - hopefully, this PSA will raise awareness of this important issue. Lisa Bloom, Midwin Charles, thank you both.
HAMMER: Moving on now, no matter how anyone feels about the octomom, I cannot believe, Brooke, that somebody would actually vandalize her van.
ANDERSON: Yes. What is that about? Way over the line, A.J.
HAMMER: Well, now, the whole incident really brings up new safety concerns. Is the octomom and the family in danger? Plus, is the mom of 14 really looking for love on reality TV?
ANDERSON: Also Barbara Walters defending Madonna. Walters fires back at people who are slamming Madonna. And she even gets personal about her own reasons for adopting. You won`t want to miss what she says.
HAMMER: And did John Mayer really write a new love song about his split with Jen Aniston? Hear what John says about his new album and the pain of heartache. We`ll also play a bit of the song for you, coming up. This is SHOWBIZ TONIGHT on HLN.
ANDERSON: And now, the "SHOWBIZ News Ticker" - more stories from the SHOWBIZ TONIGHT newsroom making news right now.
TEXT: "Project Runway" to return to TV - will air on Lifetime Network. Warner Bros. and New Line to release "Sex and the City 2" on May 28, 2010.
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
HAMMER: Did you see this? Ten men on one giant snowboard. Their mission - to set a world record while keeping the faith. The group of guys who call themselves "Ten Jews, One Snowboard," tried to ride down a slope at the Jackson Hole ski resort. So far, no loss but you`ve got to give them points for creativity. (UNINTELLIGIBLE) as they pulled it off.
Welcome back to SHOWBIZ TONIGHT. I`m A.J. Hammer in New York. Tonight, is the octomom in danger? There are startling new developments surrounding the octomom. They are making big news right now.
Police investigating why someone grabbed a child`s car seat from her front porch and apparently threw it through the rear window of her octovan. The scary incident happened just hours after the mother of 14 brought home her 7th of the octuplets from the hospital.
Also new tonight, a reported reality show for octomom and her kids with a twist. Nadya possibly looking for love. Oy vey.
But does the news get any bigger than this? I don`t think so. A Texas baseball team is holding an octomom night. Everybody is excited. Included in the festivities, a diaper derby, a stroller race and my favorite, the "guess how many buns are in my easy bake oven" trivia game. Count me in.
Joining me tonight in New York, Lisa Bloom who is an anchor for the legal network, "In Session." Also in New York, Jane Velez-Mitchell, host of "ISSUES WITH JANE VELEZ-MITCHELL." You can see that find program weekday nights 7:00 p.m. Eastern right here on HLN.
Ladies, let`s begin on a serious note. We`ve got to talk about the fact that somebody attacked the octovan. Now, I get a lot of people have a lot to say about this woman and may not like her. But Lisa Bloom, there is simply no excuse for this kind of behavior at all ever, is there?
BLOOM: Well, of course not. You should never be violent or steal from somebody, no matter how much you disagree with what they may have done. But octomom also needs a reality check. I know she lives in L.A., but I think she`s living in la-la land.
She`s got to have a lot more security around here. She`s a big celebrity now. She`s got to become aware of that. She`s got to protect her kids. She`s got to protect her home. She`s got to protect her car. She`s not just an ordinary citizen anymore.
HAMMER: Well, I think this was a big wake-up call to that point, Lisa. Suleman`s attorney tells SHOWBIZ TONIGHT security guards have now been hired. And you know, it`s not like octomom hasn`t had problems with things like this before. In fact, watch what she said in this video of - one of her video diaries. It was a couple weeks ago on "Radar Online." She`s talking about somebody coming to her door in the middle of the night. Frightening.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
NADYA SULEMAN, OCTUPLET MOTHER: In the middle of the night, some guy came over. And yes, I know I`m some strange guy came over - young, young. They`re always young. And I don`t get angry. I mean, I don`t know what he`s doing.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Well, that`s got to be -
SULEMAN: But that`s kind of freaky, yes.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes.
SULEMAN: That scared me. And the nanny is like, "Who`s this? That`s what she said, "Who`s this? What do you want?" He`s like, "I just came over to say congratulations to Nadya."
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What time was this?
SULEMAN: She`s like, "Do you know her? And he`s like - he didn`t say anything. I`d like to -
(END VIDEO CLIP)
HAMMER: She seemed to be having a nice laugh about that. Jane, seven of the eight babies now home. Should we be worried about their safety?
JANE VELEZ-MITCHELL, HOST, "ISSUES WITH JANE VELEZ-MITCHELL: In a word, A.J., absolutely. This isn`t the first time or the second time. Angels in Waiting complained about it - at least three intruders being at the house. And that`s one of the reasons they called Child Protective Services.
The fact is that this woman is a celebrity. And the first rule of celebrity is you never, ever reveal where you live. It should be a top secret for obvious reasons.
But unfortunately, her desire for publicity trumped her desire for security for her own kids, and now she`s paying the price. Even though La Habra police say they`re going to do extra patrols and she says she has security, it won`t be enough because her home has become a national tourist attraction.
HAMMER: Yes. And guess what? We got the police report. We got the publicity release from La Habra police. It had her address right there on it - I`m just saying.
Let us move on now to this wild report out there. After all of the buzz that there is a deal in place for an octomom reality show that apparently would show her raising her 14 kids and, wait for it, looking for love.
Now, her attorney Jeff Czech told SHOWBIZ TONIGHT that nobody has approached him with this kind of an offer yet. But Lisa, he didn`t say she wouldn`t do it. What do you think? Could you see her actually doing something like this from all we`ve learned about her?
BLOOM: Let`s see. Could we see Nadya making a deal for publicity and money and putting that ahead of the interest of her children? Yes. That`s pretty much the only thing she ever has done since the kids have been born. I mean, she takes little effort, as far as any of us knows, to put those kids first, to be there present with them on a regular basis, to care for them, feed them.
I mean, from what we heard from Angels in Waiting and my mom, Gloria Allred, when the cameras are switched off, she goes out and she goes shopping. And so, I certainly see her doing it. I think it`s a terrible idea. I think it`s exploitive of the children. I think it`s damaging to the children. And I think Child Protective Services should take a close look at it if they put cameras in there 24/7.
HAMMER: Believe it or not, there are some people who may think it`s a good idea. No big surprise here. The "Showbiz on Call" phone lines have been overloaded like a sippy cup without a lid about the octomom starring in a reality show. Listen to what Annie from Alabama thinks about the idea.
(BEGIN AUDIO CLIP)
ANNIE, CALLER FROM ALABAMA: I think it would be a good thing for her to have a reality show because I don`t see how she is going to make it with 14 kids in this economy. And so, yes, she really needs to do that.
(END AUDIO CLIP)
HAMMER: All right, so Annie, we appreciate your call. Jane, maybe this is what octomom needs to do. If she`s going to do a reality show, do it with this twist, trying to find love.
VELEZ-MITCHELL: Annie is not on television, we are. We know how time consuming TV is - the lights, the makeup, the camera, the preparation. So she`s going to get this, raise 14 kids, do a TV show, and look for love all at the same time?
Good luck with that, Nadya. On top of that, I agree with Lisa that this is a very exploitive idea to the kids. We all know that nice, normal, well-balanced, moderate, reasonable behavior does not make for good television. What does make for good TV - conflict and drama.
HAMMER: Yes.
VELEZ-MITCHELL: We all know reality TV isn`t reality. And these producers work conflict and drama into every single situation. These kids are going to be traumatized by this if it does happen.
HAMMER: Perfectly said, so we will end it there. Jane Velez-Mitchell, Lisa Bloom, I love having you on always. And you can watch Jane on "ISSUES," weeknights, 7:00 p.m. Eastern, here on HLN.
And for complete coverage of all the octomom drama, head to our Web site CNN.com/ShowbizTonight.
We`ve been asking you to vote on our SHOWBIZ TONIGHT question of the day - "Octomom`s Car Vandalized: Do you feel sorry for her?" Please vote at CNN.com/ShowbizTonight or E-mail showbiztonight@cnn.com.
ANDERSON: Listen to this - Barbara Walters is coming to Madonna`s defense. Now, some critics have been slamming Madonna over her plan to adopt a 3- year-old girl from Malawi.
The little girl would be Madonna`s second child from the African nation. Madonna`s rep told SHOWBIZ TONIGHT that the singer is following the letter of the law. But critics say otherwise. A few have gone as far as saying Madonna is treating children like accessories.
Well, today, on "The View" Barbara Walters, who herself has an adopted daughter, said enough is enough. Walters says she is standing up for Madonna and adoptive parents everywhere. Watch this.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
WALTERS: When I was listening to the criticism, speaking personally as the mother of an adopted child. When you adopt a child, it`s a leap of faith. The child is not going to look like you. The child is not going to have your genes. It`s not your immortality. It is sheer love when you adopt a child.
And if Madonna wants to give this child a happy home where there`s - the father is nowhere to be seen. The mother died. It troubles me that there`s any criticism. You know, hooray for her. Hooray for anyone who wants to take a child into their life. That`s all I want to say.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
ANDERSON: We hear you loud and clear, Barbara. I, for one, could not agree more.
HAMMER: John Mayer and Jennifer Aniston may be kaput, but their love drama may not be over just yet. Did John really write a new song about his heartache over Jen? We get to the bottom of it. The innocent love song, next. This is SHOWBIZ TONIGHT on HLN.
ANDERSON: And now, the "SHOWBIZ News Ticker" - more stories from the SHOWBIZ TONIGHT newsroom making news right now.
TEXT: New "Hannah Montana" movie soundtrack debuts at number two - topped by "Now!" compilation. Lindsay Lohan denies she has broken up with galpal Samantha Ronson.
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
JOHN MAYER, SINGER: Jennifer Aniston is the smartest, most sophisticated person I think I`ve ever met. People have different chemistries. They have different lives. It`s not about years. It`s about going out with somebody, being truthful on the way in, being truthful in the middle, and being truthful on the way out. You`re either a cheater or you break up.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
HAMMER: That`s John Mayer going off to a TMZ camera about his first breakup with Jennifer Aniston last year. Now, is he really singing about their latest split?
Welcome back to SHOWBIZ TONIGHT. I`m A.J. Hammer. And tonight, John Mayer`s new album may or may not be about Jennifer Aniston. They first dated, of course, last year and had a very public breakup, one that included John`s on-camera rant to TMZ.
Well, months later, they got back together just in time to go to the Oscar`s arm in arm. They even got all lovey-dovey on the red carpet of one of Oscars` biggest event, the Vanity Fair party.
Of course, after the Oscar dust settled down, Jen and John split up. Well, now, in a brand-new audio recording of a recent performance, John talks about his upcoming album, "Battle Studies." Listen to what he said about it.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
MAYER: It`s sort of a concept album of the war of love, you know, the art of war of love. And so, this is a song called "Heartbreak Warfare." How sometimes instead of saying "I love you," people can`t recognize that. They recognize how much you come to their aid when they are in pain.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
HAMMER: Well, Jennifer and John have both been pretty quiet about their post-Oscar split. But you know, people can`t help but wonder if the first song of this new album had something to do with their romance. The song is called, "Heartbreak Warfare." Give it a listen and see what you think.
(MUSIC)
HAMMER: Pain, pain, pain. Well, the song really could be about anybody, but it does make you wonder, doesn`t it? SHOWBIZ TONIGHT did reach out to John`s rep. As of show time, we have not heard back.
Well, that is it for SHOWBIZ TONIGHT. I`m A.J. Hammer in New York.
ANDERSON: I`m Brooke Anderson in Hollywood. You can catch SHOWBIZ TONIGHT on the 11:00s - 11:00 p.m. Eastern and Pacific, and in the morning, 11:00 a.m. Eastern on HLN. Take care.
END
