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Jon Gosselin`s Freaky Friday; The Spiritual Side of Jon Gosselin; The Most Provocative Celebrity of the Week; Oprah Winfrey Called a Hypocrite; Patrick Swayze`s Widow Breaks Her Silence; What Jessica Simpson Wants in a Man
Aired October 30, 2009 - 23:00 ET
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BROOKE ANDERSON, HOST: Right now, on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT, Jon Gosselin`s freaky Friday. Tonight, is TV`s most controversial reality show dad joining forces with the octumom?
Plus, Jon`s wild claims about making mistakes and finding his spiritual side. Tonight, the crazy Jon Gosselin news making for one very freaky Friday.
Tonight, is Jon Gosselin SHOWBIZ TONIGHT`s most provocative celebrity of the week? Or will it be Levi Johnston for his naked ambition and new slams on Sarah Palin? Who else is in the running? Tonight, SHOWBIZ TONIGHT names the most provocative celebrity of the week.
Tonight, big breaking Oprah news. Why a big star`s wife is calling Oprah a domestic abuse hypocrite.
Plus, Patrick Swayze`s widow goes on "Oprah" show today and reveals her heartbreaking ordeal for the very first time.
TV`s first, provocative entertainment news show starts right now.
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Hi there, everyone. I`m Brooke Anderson, coming to you tonight from Hollywood.
And tonight, Jon Gosselin`s very freaky Friday. And yes, you can definitely file this one under "you can`t make this stuff up." How else do I describe the news today that Jon Gosselin could have been doing a brand- new reality show with the octumom? I mean, what were they going to call it? Jon plus Kate`s eight plus octumom`s 14 equals 22?
But wait, there`s more. Because just as we are trying to absorb the Jon-octumom news, SHOWBIZ TONIGHT learned that Jon is claiming he has had a spiritual epiphany which all made for big news breaking today.
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(voice-over): He`s Jon Gosselin. His turn-ons are funky shirts and much younger women. His turn-offs? Type A blonds.
And this is Nadya Suleman. Her turn-ons are having babies and that`s pretty much it. Her turn offs are numerical nicknames. We might have a match. Because SHOWBIZ TONIGHT found out today that this famous father of 8 and this famous mother of 14 talks seriously, very seriously, about teaming up for a reality show.
AMANDA SIDMAN, "NEW YORK DAILY NEWS": It`s truly a match made in reality TV hell.
ANDERSON: SHOWBIZ TONIGHT is wondering, is the world ready for "Jon and Nadya Plus 22?" Amanda Sidman of the "New York Daily News" tells SHOWBIZ TONIGHT that Gosselin`s people definitely considered a reality show featuring him and the octumom.
SIDMAN: So we did see an E-mail between the show`s producers and Gosselin`s camp basically talking about salaries. Well, what it says to me is that Jon, at some point, if not now, was definitely interested.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Because I`m carrying your baby and you are off on a boat with (UNINTELLIGIBLE) to fish in it.
ANDERSON: The show is being shopped around by the executive producer of the syndicated infidelity trash fest, "Cheaters." Bobby Goldstein tells SHOWBIZ TONIGHT the proposed octumom-Gosselin show would be about, quote, "the development of their relationship, if any, and the merging of two families with lots of kids."
And octumom may be up for it considering the nice things she said about Jon recently on "Radar Online."
NADYA SULEMAN, OCTUMOM: I have a crush on Jon Gosselin. Is that his name?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes.
SULEMAN: He is hot.
ANDERSON: But alas, it appears the Jon Gosselin-octumom show is not to be. Publicly, team Gosselin is saying no, thanks.
SIDMAN: His rep, Mike Heller is saying absolutely not. Jon wants to be taken more seriously.
ANDERSON: And SHOWBIZ TONIGHT can tell you We may have been spared from a Gosselin and octumom reality show by nothing less than a higher power.
In a statement denying plans of a reality show with Nadya Suleman, Gosselin tells SHOWBIZ TONIGHT he`s going to discover his spiritual side with the help of celebrity Rabbi Shmuley Boteach.
SIDMAN: He`s going to be meeting with Rabbi Shmuley and he`s going to be making a statement at the upper west side synagogue on Sunday night. He wants to apologize to people that he`s offended.
ANDERSON: So it looks like the new spiritual Jon Gosselin has no interest in teaming up with the octumom right now. But the producer of the proposed reality show is holding out hope.
He tells SHOWBIZ TONIGHT, "Gosselin is playing hard to get. We`ll see overtime if he`s worn down with what I see is his insatiable need to be part of the spotlight."
And the producer is giving some advice to Gosselin.
SIDMAN: He thinks that Jon should definitely take the $1.5 million. He thinks that in six months, Jon will be asking him to do "Cheaters" for free.
ANDERSON: So with the octumom-Gosselin reality looking away, we left to ponder the reality TV trash fest that might have been.
SIDMAN: There is just something so D-list and so seedy about the two of them. We can only wonder what a show bringing the two of them together would do.
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ANDERSON: With all the freaky twists and turns, Jon Gosselin`s wild drama- filled life has taken, I can say with absolute certainty I did not see the octomum spiritual adventure transformation coming. Heaven help us.
Here in Hollywood tonight is Hyla. He`s an entertainment journalist with "5DollarPrep.com." And in New York tonight is Rachel Zalis. She is a contributing editor for "Life and Style Weekly."
OK, guys. Let`s begin with Jon getting in touch with his spiritual side. I really do wish him the best. But I`m not so sure that Jon should be taking this journey in public with Michael Jackson`s former spiritual advisor and issuing a press release about it. Hyla, do I have that right?
HYLA, ENTERTAINMENT JOURNALIST, "5DOLLARPREP.COM": No, you have it wrong, because if he does it privately, how does he get the promotion for it? How is he able to score big television shows with the octumom? No, he can`t do it in private. You`ve got to do this in public. It`s the only way to do this.
ANDERSON: But if he`s so serious about it, then why tell the world? I think his actions will speak louder than his words. I say, be private if you are serious about doing something like this.
But I have to tell you this - we have never seen anything like the reaction we have been getting to this Jon drama today on our "Showbiz on Call" phone lines.
Now, Glenda, calling in today from Pennsylvania is still team Jon all the way. Listen.
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Glenda does have a point, Rachel. If for nothing else, do you think Jon`s spiritual journey could be the best thing to help him heal from what Jon says was a verbally abusive relationship with Kate?
RACHEL ZALIS, CONTRIBUTING EDITOR, "LIFE AND STYLE WEEKLY": Oh, this spiritual journey is about as real as the Ed Hardy tattoos. Come on. And if he was abused by Kate, I get it. Look at his philandering, his tantrums, his general bad behavior. I mean, be a man, Jon Gosselin.
ANDERSON: Be a man. I`m right there with you, Rachel. Well, Jon`s other new adventure on this freaky Friday has to do with those reports today about him considering doing a dating reality show with the octumom.
Although Jon calls the report a scurrilous rumor, the producer of the show told us today, quote, "I did see E-mails from one of their agents who said they would be interested in the project if the economics were right. It all hinged on the condition that both parties would agree to cooperate in the premise."
Hyla, he is saying that yes, Jon considered doing a reality show with the octumom. They are not rumors - what he is saying. Was Jon out of his mind to even think about doing this? Would he be a laughingstock?
HYLA: Would he be?
ANDERSON: He already is, kind of.
HYLA: He is a laughingstock. Well, this would be huge, I mean, strictly from a business perspective, OK? He is one of the biggest celebrities in Hollywood right now. You guys can hate him. We can make fun of him all day long.
But the reality is, who do you talk more about on your show than Jon Gosselin every week? For him to team up with possibly the second or 3rd or 4th biggest story of this year - that`s a reality superpower. That`s huge. That`s going to make the network money. And that`s going to make Jon Gosselin money. Business-wise, great. For us, a bit of a headache.
ANDERSON: Rachel, an octudad and octumom reality show - what do you think? Does it make you go eww or is it genius?
ZALIS: I would be devastated if this show doesn`t happen. I mean, he robbed Kate of his money and now he`d be robbing his fans of the best possible reality show. You know, the producers are pitching it, says it`s the next great pairing after Lennon and McCartney, Mantle and Maris and Mohammed and the Mountain. I`ve already set my teeth out for that. Come on.
ANDERSON: You`re ready for this. You are hoping they sign on. Well, Jon minus Kate plus octumom reports come on the heels of octumom confessing that she actually has a crush on Jon Gosselin. And you`ve got to hear the octumom`s dating advice to Jon and his 22-year-old girlfriend. Watch.
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SULEMAN: I have a crush on Jon Gosselin. Is that his name?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes.
SULEMAN: He`s hot.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What are do you think about him dating a 22-year-old girl?
SULEMAN: He`s dating?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes.
SULEMAN: I think the media should leave him alone and stop exploiting them, you know. And people are entitled to their privacy.
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ANDERSON: Please! Hyla, explain that one. The octumom thinks Jon`s dating life should be private. But she is considering signing up to be in a dating reality show with him. What?
HYLA: Oh, no. We`ve figured out the formula of Hollywood. You say one thing and you do another. Kate Gosselin goes on shows and says Jon shouldn`t be talking to the public while she is on a public television show. Jon says he wants a private life, but he`s playing the god in public on Sunday night.
We know this is formula. This is how it works. And you know what? Watch out, Heidi and Spencer. Octumom and octudad could be the next big Hollywood couple.
ANDERSON: They are giving them a run for their money. All this back-and- forth and he said, she said, and the hypocritical things they are saying is giving me a headache. Rachel Zalis, Hyla, thanks. Good to see you.
And now, we want to hear from you. This is our SHOWBIZ TONIGHT question of the day - "Jon Gosselin and Octumom: Should they appear in a reality show together?" Vote at CNN.com/ShowbizTonight. E-mail us at showbiztonight@cnn.com.
It has been quite for Jon Gosselin in court fighting over money issues with Kate, slammed by his own girlfriend and now a nominee to be named tonight SHOWBIZ TONIGHT`s most provocative celebrity of the week.
Another nominee, Levi Johnston for his "Playgirl" posing and new Sarah Palin smackdown. And what about Michael Jackson based on his new movie?
And big breaking Oprah news today. Oprah called a domestic abuse hypocrite.
And Oprah today with Patrick Swayze`s widow who reveals her heartbreaking ordeal.
Jessica Simpson reveals what she wants in a man. Tonight, why she and Jon Gosselin might be a match made in heaven.
And now, the "SHOWBIZ News Ticker" - more stories from the SHOWBIZ TONIGHT newsroom making news right now.
TEXT: Dennis Hopper diagnosed with prostate cancer and getting treatment. Hugh Jackman turns down invitation to host Oscars for a second time.
ANDERSON: You are watching SHOWBIZ TONIGHT on HLN. And right now, I want you to keep on watching the bottom of your screen for more nonstop, compelling and provocative news from SHOWBIZ TONIGHT
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ELLEN DEGENERES, HOST, "THE ELLEN DEGENERES SHOW": I`m dressed as "O" magazine. Stop staring at my articles. I am so excited. My issue with "O" is coming out in two weeks. The real cover has not been revealed yet, so this is just a photo that Oprah and I took over the weekend.
This is what we do when we hang out. We just push each other on swings. And sometimes, we play in her bouncy castle. And it`s Oprah - it`s a real castle. It`s not bouncy.
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ANDERSON: Ellen got in the Halloween spirit today by gracing the cover of "O," sort of. One of Ellen`s running jokes this season was begging Oprah to be on the cover of "O." It looks like Oprah has been listening.
Welcome back to SHOWBIZ TONIGHT. I`m Brooke Anderson. Did you see this? It`s the guitar guy versus United Airlines. First, United Airlines broke musician Dave Carroll`s guitar. His musical YouTube video about the whole incident became an Internet sensation.
And now, in an unbelievable stroke of bad luck, United lost the guy`s luggage on a different flight. But he`s not yelling about it. He`s singing.
Here`s CNN`s Jeanne Moos for SHOWBIZ TONIGHT.
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JEANNE MOOS, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): One thing we are all united on, when baggage handlers mess up a guy`s guitar -
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MOOS: He writes a song about it. The airline should try not to lose his luggage the next time.
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MOOS: Dave Carroll got famous for putting his complaint about United on YouTube this summer.
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Though he never got his $1,200 repair bill reimbursed, he did get offers to speak on improving customer service. And on his way to just such a speaking engagement -
DAVE CARROLL, MUSICIAN: United was the only way to get here. And they lost my bag.
MOOS: Lost his bag, took almost three days to return it.
(on camera): Dave couldn`t wear the dress shoes he wanted to wear to the presentation and he couldn`t hand out CDs of "United Breaks Guitars."
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Because they were all in the suitcase United lost.
(voice-over): When Dave mentioned his guitar video, United reps said they knew it. They suggested that in his next song -
CARROLL (through telephone): I write about how nice the customer service reps were who were trying find my bag in Denver.
MOOS: He`s already written two songs, given his version of events.
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A third song was on the way. The guitar saga has been great for the Canadian`s performing career. He even endorsed a line of hard-shell instrument cases. He testified and sang in a congressional hearing on passengers` rights.
(on camera): Well, they really picked the wrong guy`s luggage to lose, huh?
(voice-over): United says, "We apologized to Mr. Carroll for this inconvenience. It`s unfortunate, but it`s also an anomaly. 99.6 percent of bags we carry arrive without incident.
Unfortunately for United, this 0.4 percent sings.
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But at least, Dave`s guitar was repairable. United didn`t pull a John Belushi. A parody has even popped up suggesting Dave unite with United.
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ANDERSON: That was CNN`s Jeanne Moos for SHOWBIZ TONIGHT. OK. The "Showbiz on Call" phone lines have been buzzing about Levi Johnston after he claims he has secrets that could hurt Sarah Palin. We got a call into "Showbiz on Call" from Nanci in Connecticut who thinks Levi needs some perspective.
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NANCI, CALLER FROM CONNECTICUT: Has anybody forgotten that this Levi Johnston character is the father of Sarah Palin`s daughter`s baby? I think he has even forgotten. I mean, let all the fighting between him and Sarah go. This is not scoring him any fatherhood points.
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ANDERSON: Thank you, Nanci. We also heard from Chris in New York calling into "Showbiz on Call" who said Levi actually owes Sarah Palin for his fame.
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CHRIS, CALLER FROM NEW YORK: Maybe Levi, after looking at him and hearing from him, should be grateful to Sarah Palin and her daughter. He would not be known if it was not for them. He would be back in Alaska. But he should be eternally grateful that he is made to be an idiot and made an idiot out of them.
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ANDERSON: Thank you, Chris. Call us at "Showbiz on Call" and let us know what you think about this or anything else that is on your mind. The "Showbiz on Call" phone lines always open. Give us a ring - 1-888-SBT- BUZZ; that`s 1-888-728-2899. Leave a voicemail. We will play some of your calls right here on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT.
Tonight, there is some big breaking Oprah news I want to tell you about. Today, one big star`s wife says she is disappointed in Oprah. Is Oprah a domestic abuse hypocrite?
Plus, Patrick Swayze`s widow breaks her silence `on "Oprah" today.
And Tom Hanks sings Beyonce?
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TOM HANKS, ACTOR: Oh. Oh, come on. Ring on it. Ring on it.
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ANDERSON: Yes, that is Tom Hanks singing Beyonce`s "Single Ladies." But why? A scary thought - did Tom sport those tights Beyonce wore in the video?
And tonight, SHOWBIZ TONIGHT names the most provocative celebrity of the week. Will it be Jon Gosselin for his bad boy bachelor ways? Could it be Levi Johnston for his nude ambition and brand-new Sarah Palin smackdown? Or could it be Michael Jackson for his blockbuster new movie?
And now, the "SHOWBIZ News Ticker" - more stories from the SHOWBIZ TONIGHT newsroom making news right now.
TEXT: World Series gets highest ratings in five years. 20 million watch game number one; 17 million for game number two. 25 million people watch trailer for "Twilight Saga: New Moon" in one week.
ANDERSON: You are watching SHOWBIZ TONIGHT on HLN. Right now, I want you to keep on watching the bottom of your screen for more nonstop, compelling and provocative news from SHOWBIZ TONIGHT
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BARBARA WALTERS, CO-HOST, "THE VIEW": I used to be a human newscaster. But then, I get a story on someone who didn`t like me. And she bit me and now - now, I am Goth.
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ANDERSON: And yes, that is the one and only Barbara Walters transformed today on "The View." Walters called her vampire alter-ego Fangtasia from "True Blood."
Welcome back to SHOWBIZ TONIGHT. I`m Brooke Anderson. The ladies of "The View" today looked bloody fantastic as they each chose to dress up as their favorite vampires for Halloween. SHOWBIZ TONIGHT was right there behind the scenes at "The View." And we asked Barbara how she got into character and how Sherri felt dressing up as Queen of the Damned and wearing some serious fangs. Watch.
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WALTERS: I`m truly Goth. My whole outfit is Goth. My nails are Goth. My fangs got off. I was very upset. Yes, I am. I`m a member of the "True Blood" team.
SHERRI SHEPHERD, CO-HOST, "THE VIEW": I must find a man to bit because this feels really empowering. I have to say.
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ANDERSON: They look good. OK, tonight, there is brand-new controversy over Beyonce in the Middle East. Beyonce is scheduled to take her "I Am" tour to Egypt for the first time ever next week.
But now, an Islamist member of Egyptian parliament is protesting the government, saying Beyonce`s tour violates Islamic religious law. Hamdi Hassan thinks Beyonce is too scantily clad in her show encouraging people to indulge in sin.
Just last week, Beyonce was forced to postpone her show in Malaysia after similar complaints from the Pan-Malaysian Islamic Party.
The SHOWBIZ TONIGHT Facebook page in a heated debate over whether Jon Gosselin is the most hated bachelor in America.
Alisha P. writes, "I think Jon has really shown his true colors. It`s sad that his kids are paying for his trips around the world with his trashy girlfriend and Kate is at home taking care of the kids. He has no clue what`s good for them.
Amalia F. writes, "Hello! Kate treated Jon horribly. She is a vicious you-know-what and she deserves everything coming to her. I feel sorry for Jon."
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And now, the SHOWBIZ lineup. Here`s what`s coming up at the bottom of the hour on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT.
Jessica Simpson reveals what she wants in a man. Tonight, why we think she and Jon Gosselin might be a match made in heaven.
And big Oprah news. Is Oprah being called a hypocrite over her stance on domestic abuse?
And tonight, SHOWBIZ TONIGHT names the most provocative celebrity of the week. Is it Jon Gosselin for his man-trums? Is it Levi Johnston for his brand-new Sarah Palin smackdown? And who else is in the running?
And now, the "SHOWBIZ News Ticker" - more stories from the SHOWBIZ TONIGHT newsroom making news right now.
TEXT: "Britain`s Got Talent" runner-up, Susan Boyle, to promote new album on QVC November 4. Michael Jackson`s "This Is It" earns $20.1 million on its first day at worldwide box offices.
ANDERSON: You are watching SHOWBIZ TONIGHT on HLN. Right now, I want you to keep on watching the bottom of your screen for more nonstop, compelling and provocative news from SHOWBIZ TONIGHT.
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ANDERSON: Now, on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT, big Oprah news breaking. Tonight, why Oprah is being called a domestic abuse hypocrite.
Plus, Patrick Swayze`s widow gives her first TV interview to Oprah since Patrick died.
Jon Gosselin plus Jessica Simpson. Jon is getting divorced. Jessica wants a new man. Tonight, are these two perfect for each other?
And SHOWBIZ TONIGHT names the most provocative celebrity of the week. Jon Gosselin, Levi Johnston, Michael Jackson - who will it be?
Plus, more stories breaking from the "SHOWBIZ News Ticker."
TV`s first, provocative entertainment news show continues right now.
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Welcome back to SHOWBIZ TONIGHT. It is 30 minutes past the hour. I`m Brooke Anderson, coming to you tonight from Hollywood.
And tonight, big Oprah news. Oprah is making all kinds of big breaking news tonight, and not all of it is good news.
The wife of gospel great, BeBe Winans is calling Oprah out today accusing her of being hypocritical about domestic abuse.
BeBe was arrested on a domestic violence charge after he allegedly pushed his ex-wife, Debra, to the ground in February.
Today, he appeared on Oprah to promote his new CD. His ex-wife is saying shame on Oprah for inviting him on. It was just a couple of months ago that Oprah was singing a completely different tune on her show about domestic violence.
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OPRAH WINFREY, HOST, "THE OPRAH WINFREY SHOW": If a man hits you once, he will hit you again.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: That`s right.
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ANDERSON: Even more breaking Oprah news today - Patrick Swayze`s widow, Lisa Neimi, opened up for the very first time today to Oprah about Patrick`s final moments. And wait until you hear about the bombshell secret she shared about their marriage.
Joining me tonight in Hollywood, Pat Lalama who is an investigative journalist. And from New York, Rachel Zalis, who is a contributing editor for "Life and Style Weekly."
Pat, Rachel, I want to begin with the brand-new controversy today over Oprah inviting gospel singer BeBe Winans on her show. Take a look.
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WINFREY: My friend, Grammy-winning singer, BeBe Winans, crisscrossed the country in search of the best karaoke singers. Check this out.
BEBE WINANS, GOSPEL SINGER: I`m on my quest for the best karaoke singer in the land.
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ANDERSON: OK. BeBe was charged in February after he allegedly pushed his ex-wife to the ground during an argument over custody of their children.
In a brand-new statement today, Debra, his ex, tells TMZ she is, quote, "hurt by Oprah`s decision to have BeBe on the show." After all, she said, Oprah refused to have Chris Brown on after he beat up Rihanna. Pat, is Oprah being a hypocrite?
PAT LALAMA, INVESTIGATIVE JOURNALIST: Not at all. I do not understand this controversy. What is this, state-run media where, you know, someone has to dictate to her who she can have on for what reason or what`s politically correct?
She may have all kinds of reasons why she doesn`t want Chris Brown on her show and why she wants Mr. Winans on her show. Perhaps she`s determined Chris is a creep. She wants nothing to do with him. She believes he`s guilty.
Perhaps, you know, the jury is still out on the other case. Maybe - remember, he is innocent until proven guilty. There are all kinds of reasons and she has the absolute right in free America to determine who is going to be on her show.
ANDERSON: She certainly does. And we tried to find out the reasons behind it. We reached out to Oprah`s show today but we got a no-comment. Let`s not forget, everyone, that Oprah did broadcast a show about domestic violence after Rihanna was beaten up. And Oprah crucified Chris Brown for what he did.
But Rachel, BeBe Winans was also arrested for domestic abuse. I do want to make that clear. His case though is still pending.
ZALIS: Exactly.
ANDERSON: Chris Brown copped a plea deal. What do you think, Rachel? Is Oprah being hypocritical?
ZALIS: Absolutely. I`m sorry. I disagree with Pat, because this is a major misstep for her. We are finally seeing a little bit of a crack in the Oprah armor. I mean, she dedicated an entire show about domestic abuse to all the Rihannas out there. And where does that leave Debra Winans? It`s definitely hypocritical.
ANDERSON: How do you see this as different, Pat? You`re shaking your head.
LALAMA: Here`s the deal. First of all, he hasn`t been convicted unless I`m mistaken. I don`t believe he`s been convicted. Perhaps Oprah truly believes that he is not guilty in this case.
If we are really going to be advocates for doing something about domestic abuse, we have to make sure that all the ducks are in a row, that there has been a crime committed and we do the best we can for the victim.
We don`t know all the facts in this case yet. He hasn`t been convicted yet. She may not believe the story and has every right to be fair in that regard.
ZALIS: But that`s the point. The hearing is still pending. So why not wait until you know for sure? It doesn`t seem right.
LALAMA: It`s her show. It`s her show. This is not government control. There is no Fairness Doctrine here. It`s her show. She can make that choice.
ANDERSON: And right now, BeBe does have a CD to promote. And the SHOWBIZ TONIGHT Facebook page has been on fire about Oprah`s controversy today. And Joanna A. writes, "If she blasted Chris Brown and now has BeBe on her show, she is a hypocrite. You can`t be about something and then throw it out the window when a friend is being accused of the same crime. Doesn`t look good on her part at all."
So Pat, do you agree to any of what our friend at home wrote? Does having BeBe Winans on her show make her look bad to some?
LALAMA: You know what? There is nothing more horrifying than domestic abuse. That`s one of the most horrifying things on earth. If Oprah Winfrey is opposed to that, bless her for that. But she still has the right to entertain and have someone on her show who she may feel is not responsible. That`s her choice.
ANDERSON: Right.
LALAMA: You know, there are a lot of false accusations in domestic abuse, too. And I don`t think we should be promoting that. I think we need to know the entire story. If it turns out he is convicted, then she may have a different opinion. But for now, she is entitled to have him on and hear his say.
ANDERSON: And this show is "The Oprah Winfrey Show" so she is entitled. I want to move now to more big breaking news from Oprah`s show today. Patrick Swayze`s widow Lisa Neimi gave her very first TV interview since Swayze died.
She opened up on "Oprah" today about Patrick`s final moments. And she revealed a bombshell secret about their marriage. First, though, I want you to hear how Lisa described Patrick`s final days and when he gave in to the cancer. Watch.
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LISA NEIMI, PATRICK SWAYZE`S WIDOW: He was very comfortable.
WINFREY: He had sufficient drugs?
NEIMI: Yes. We were very - I mean, and there was a strange, difficult transition from trying to treat and make better to try to make comfortable. Very, very, very hard to do because -
WINFREY: Once you try to make comfortable, it means you have given up the fight to make better.
NEIMI: Oh, yes.
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ANDERSON: Rachel, it just sounds heart-wrenching, doesn`t it?
ZALIS: It`s absolutely gut-wrenching. I mean, these two were the golden couple in Hollywood, together for about 37 years. And you know, every loss is tragic, but this was definitely a huge loss for their families, for everyone in the industry and for all of his fans around the world.
ANDERSON: Yes. She seems like a very, very strong woman. I`m sure his absence is gut-wrenching right now. And I do want you hear this. In a bombshell confession, Swayze`s widow, Lisa, also confessed to Oprah today that their 34-year marriage wasn`t all roses. In 2003, she and Patrick separated for a whole year because of Patrick`s alcohol problem.
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NEIMI: He had some, you know, drinking issues and some very dark thoughts. He`s, you know - he`s an amazing man, but he`s always amazingly difficult and complicated and wonderful and generous and loving. You know, all those things.
WINFREY: But you separated for a year?
NEIMI: Yes. He was imploding pretty badly. It was very difficult. I thought - I didn`t think he would live through it, frankly. And I didn`t want to be there to watch him die.
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ANDERSON: They went to hell and back. They went through that and so many other problems and still managed to stay together for 34 years. Pat, talk about an anomaly in Hollywood. It`s pretty amazing. And you know, I think a lot of couples can learn from them. What do you think?
LALAMA: Oh, my goodness. Absolutely. You know, for anyone who had shared their life with someone who suffers from substance abuse, they know the pain and suffering. But they also know where there is true love, where there is true devotion, you stick it out. You stick together. And you help that person through it.
And as far as I`m concerned, she gets an A-plus for being one of the most admirable people on television today talking about this. And everyone can learn and realize it doesn`t have to end. You can stick with them.
ANDERSON: It is an inspirational story. Pat Lalama, Rachel Zalis, thank you, ladies. Good to see you.
OK. So Jon Gosselin is getting divorced and we know he likes the ladies. And I think Jessica Simpson needs to find a great guy. In fact, tonight, she is revealing just what she is looking for. And let me tell you, could Jon be the one for her?
Also, is Jon Gosselin the most provocative celebrity of the week? Will it be Jon? Is all his spirituality talk for real? Or how about Levi Johnston who is still battling Sarah Palin and about to take it all off for "Playgirl?" Or maybe it`s Michael Jackson - his new movie causing lots of controversy. Find out as SHOWBIZ TONIGHT names the most provocative celebrity of the week.
Also this -
HANKS: Oh. Oh, come on. Ring on it. Ring on it.
ANDERSON: Why is Tom Hanks singing Beyonce`s "Single Ladies?" Is this some wild Halloween joke?
And now, the "SHOWBIZ News Ticker" - more stories from the SHOWBIZ TONIGHT newsroom making news right now.
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ANDERSON: You are watching SHOWBIZ TONIGHT on HLN. And right now, I want you to keep on watching the bottom of your screen for more nonstop, compelling and provocative news from SHOWBIZ TONIGHT.
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ANDERSON: Tonight, SHOWBIZ TONIGHT is about to name the most provocative celebrity of the week. Who will we choose?
Jon Gosselin for his new religious makeover that some are calling a PR scheme, plus his alleged reality show with the octumom.
Levi Johnston for his thinly-veiled threats against Sarah Palin on national TV and his big revelations about posing for "Playgirl."
Or Michael Jackson - some of the fans are saying his record-breaking new film, "This Is It," is exploiting him in death.
Who will we choose? Welcome back to SHOWBIZ TONIGHT. I`m Brooke Anderson in Hollywood. And we will be naming SHOWBIZ TONIGHT`s most provocative celebrity of the week in just a moment.
But first, incredible new revelations today from Jessica Simpson as she speaks out about her top ideal qualities for the perfect man. Jessica is not mincing words tonight. She`s telling "Extra" what exactly she wants from a man.
And after years of heartbreak, this girl isn`t messing around. She knows what she wants. And wait until you hear her list. One must-have quality - a spiritual man.
Tonight, in Hollywood, Kim Serafin, who is a senior editor for "In Touch Weekly." Also joining me in Hollywood, Carlos Diaz, who is a correspondent with "Extra."
And you guys were really in the spirit with Jessica Simpson. You`ve got a fascinating interview with her. She tells exactly what it is she is looking for in a man. Watch this.
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JESSICA SIMPSON, SINGER AND REALITY TV STAR: I like a confident man. I definitely love a spiritual man. I love intellectual men, people that will always keep me intrigued. I love artistic men, somebody that really understands their art.
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ANDERSON: Jessica, we know, has had so much heartache in the past. And it has all been so public from Nick Lachey to Tony Romo. It`s been pretty intense. Carlos, do you get the sense that she has really grown up a lot in the last few years?
CARLOS DIAZ, CORRESPONDENT, "EXTRA": She does and she has grown up. And I completely feel for her because, you know, what she looks for in a man - confidence and those kind of natures - you know, those kinds of characteristics, she`s going to find in a guy like a Tony Romo or a Nick Lachey.
But those were high-profile relationships. So it`s one of those things where, you know, maybe for her next relationship, she`s going to look for someone who is confident and has those characteristics, but maybe doesn`t have the high profile that, you know, she kind of sought out in the past.
ANDERSON: Yes. And that person cannot be intimidated by her fame, her celebrity. And when you look at the list of men in Jessica life, from Nick Lachey to John Mayer to her last heartbreak, Tony Romo - they all pretty much stack up to her perfect man. So Kim, what keeps going wrong with her?
KIM SERAFIN, SENIOR EDITOR, "IN TOUCH WEEKLY": You know, I don`t know. She seems like a great girl. It seems like she is always trying to further her career whether it`s with her product line or with her music.
Now, this reality show that she`s been working on, traveling around the world, "The Price of Beauty, which kind of has an intellectual aspect to it. But yes, everyone that she - every quality that she names kind of goes with the guy that she`s dated. John Mayer, certainly confident. Nick Lachey, definitely artistic. Tony Romo, maybe a little bit more brawny than brainy. I don`t know about his intellectual prowess. But you know, it seems like she is picking the right guys. She just has to find that right one.
ANDERSON: She certainly does. And there was one part of Jessica`s interview with "Extra" that really caught my ear. She said she really loves a spiritual man. So what do you think? Should she hook up with Jon Gosselin?
Just this week Jon sent out a statement, letting the world know that he is studying under Rabbi Shmuley Boteach to work on being a, quote, "moral exemplar to his kids." Carlos, would Jon and Jessica be a match made in heaven?
DIAZ: No. They would not. They would be a match made in hell because of the fact that Jon is not confident at all when it comes to being in relationships. We saw it for years on "Jon & Kate Plus 8." If Jessica is looking for a confident guy, you don`t need to go for Jon Gosselin.
ANDERSON: Yes. We`re totally kidding about that. It would be a complete disaster. And you know, Jon`s sudden new religious morality makeover has made him a nominee tonight as SHOWBIZ TONIGHT names the most provocative celebrity of the week.
Not only that, but an even bigger whopper, some guy is now claiming he was hired as the executive producer of a reality show starring Jon and the octumom getting romantic.
Also on our list, Levi Johnston. Not only is he speaking out about dropping his pants for "Playgirl." He`s also taking on his almost-mother- in-law Sarah Palin saying he could reveal secrets that would hurt her if he wanted to.
Or should the title of "most provocative" go to Michael Jackson. His brand-new hit movie "This Is It" is making some of his fans say, "That`s enough." They say Michael Jackson is being exploited.
And the winner is - Jon Gosselin, who is SHOWBIZ TONIGHT`s most provocative celebrity of the week. Carlos, was that your pick?
DIAZ: You know, I actually have him in 3rd place in my category. Because I think Michael Jackson, you know, having this amazing movie out there - how can you get more provocative that that.
But I have Levi Johnston at number one on the list because it takes guts for a guy to go on a news show and one minute be talking about taking his clothes off for "Playgirl," and the next minute ripping a potential presidential candidate in all of the same interviews. That is provocative.
ANDERSON: Well, it takes courage or it takes stupidity. I`m not sure which one it is. Kim, who was your choice?
SERAFIN: Yes. I do not think Levi Johnston. I think he`s a one-trick pony. It`s like every time he opens his mouth, he`s going to say something bad about Sarah Palin. Not very creative.
So I am definitely going with Jon Gosselin. This week, definitely. Jon Gosselin - you know, he`s found religion, found his new spirituality. Then, of course, you have this new reality show that "In Touch" had reported on.
But now, apparently, his spiritual advisers are advising him against it. It`s the new thing. And by the way, I think that should have been called "Octu-Jon. That to me would have been a better title, by the way. FYI.
ANDERSON: Jon Gosselin -
SERAFIN: Yes.
ANDERSON: Hands down most provocative celebrity of the week. Two to one. Carlos, here we go. Carlos Diaz, Kim Serafin, thank you both. Have a good weekend.
OK. What do you get when Tom Hanks sings Beyonce? A totally hysterical piece of tape that we have got to show you.
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HANKS: Oh. Oh, come on. Ring on it. Ring on it.
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ANDERSON: OK. So why was Tom belting out Beyonce`s "Single Ladies?" Did he put on a leotard, heels and dance around? You have got to see this.
And now, the "SHOWBIZ News Ticker" - more stories from the SHOWBIZ TONIGHT newsroom making news right now.
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ANDERSON: It`s time now for making it work. Now, this is where we get the secrets of how the biggest stars make their relationships work.
Tonight, Salma Hayek. Salma married her husband, French businessman Francois Henri Pinault last Valentine`s Day in Paris. Salma tells SHOWBIZ TONIGHT the keys to a successful marriage - picking the right person and having a backbone.
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SALMA HAYEK, ACTRESS: Oh, I am just very lucky. I picked the right guy because he is very, very supportive of what I do. He loves it. He likes - he likes that I am passionate and he likes it when I am angry about something. He is not intimidated that I am strong, that I am successful. He actually is respectful and likes it. So that helps a lot.
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ANDERSON: Sounds like they`ve got a good thing going. You are watching SHOWBIZ TONIGHT on HLN. And right now, I want you to keep on watching the bottom of your screen for more nonstop, compelling and provocative news from SHOWBIZ TONIGHT.
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REGIS PHILBIN, CO-HOST, "LIVE WITH REGIS AND KELLY": Excuse me.
KELLY RIPA, CO-HOST, "LIVE WITH REGIS AND KELLY": (UNINTELLIGIBLE) his mind to read.
PHILBIN: I`ll take some of this while I`m full on here.
RIPA: Excuse me. You won`t take that.
PHILBIN: Hey!
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ANDERSON: Hey, did you see this? Today, on "Regis and Kelly," the duo dressed up as America`s famous feuding couple, Jon and Kate.
The Jon and Kate outfits were just the beginning. SHOWBIZ TONIGHT was right there as Regis and Kelly went through 20 - yes, 20 costumes during their annual Halloween show from Lady Gaga and Susan Boyle to "The Real Housewives of New Jersey."
Regis and Kelly made sure no reality Dylan(ph) or Vixen was left out. They also got help from "Dancing with the Stars" judge Carrie Ann Inaba to round their judges panel.
SHOWBIZ TONIGHT was right there on the set of "Regis and Kelly" and we just had to ask, why reality TV for their Halloween show this year?
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RIPA: I mean there are so many reality shows now. We are sort of inundated with them. But they are also great and unique and fun. And we really thought we could have a good time playing with them.
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ANDERSON: Hey, here is something that could be as scary as Regis and Kelly`s costumes - Tom Hanks singing Beyonce. Did you see this? SHOWBIZ TONIGHT was right there at the 25th anniversary Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Concert in New York on Thursday.
Take a listen to what happened backstage when Tom Hanks was asked what his favorite song of 2009 is. This is so funny.
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HANKS: Oh. Oh, come on. Ring on it. Ring on it. Ring on it. Ring on it. And Kayne West has nothing to do with my embracing of that song. Ring on it. What`s wrong with that?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Nothing.
HANKS: That is a damn fine song, the Beyonce song, because it`s infectious. Are you an idiot? Pardon me. I don`t mean that. That came off more coarse than I meant it to be. Because it`s infectious.
It is my wife`s choice. It is because what I said when I met my wife, "I am going to put a ring on that thing." I`m going to take (UNINTELLIGIBLE). Thank you very much everybody. We will be here all night. Don`t forget to tip the waitresses.
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ANDERSON: Funny guy. Hey, Tom, by the way, the song is called "Single Ladies."
Thursday, we asked you to vote on our SHOWBIZ TONIGHT question of the day. And just moments ago, we got the final results - "Jon Gosselin: Has he become the most despised bachelor in America?" Eighty-two percent of you say yes. Only 18 percent say no.
Here are some of your E-mails. Marla from Texas, "Jon Gosselin is a megalomaniac. His girlfriend, Hailey Glassman, is a baby. All that media drama - he`s abusive but she loves him and he`s sorry."
And Tina from North Carolina, "People are so quick to bash this man. This is a man spiraling out of control and he needs help."
Yes, he does. That is it for SHOWBIZ TONIGHT. Thank you so much for watching. I am Brooke Anderson in Hollywood. Remember, you can catch SHOWBIZ TONIGHT on the 11:00s - 11:00 p.m. Eastern, 11:00 p.m. Pacific, and in the morning at 11:00 a.m. Eastern right here on HLN. Take care.
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