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Jon Gosselin`s Shocking Public Apology; Scary Star Stalkers; A Brand-New Disturbing Anna Nicole Smith Video; Lindsay Lohan`s Brand-New Smackdown with Her Dad
Aired November 02, 2009 - 23:00 ET
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BROOKE ANDERSON, HOST: Right now, on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT, Jon begs to Kate to forgive him. Tonight, caught on tape, Jon`s shocking new public apology to Kate at a Jewish temple.
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JON GOSSELIN, REALITY TV STAR, "JON & KATE PLUS 8": I am sorry for doing the things I did and I do ask for her forgiveness.
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ANDERSON: Tonight, the rabbi, who was side-by-side with Jon, right here in the exclusive interview you will see only on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT. And the great debate, should Kate forgive Jon?
Tonight, just released, the very disturbing Anna Nicole caught-on-tape shocker.
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ANNA NICOLE SMITH, ACTRESS: When you have gas and you feel it and it is like - ow!
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ANDERSON: Anna Nicole Smith mistaking her pregnancy for gas? Where did this chilling tape come from? And could this lead to prison for former boyfriend Howard K. Stern?
Plus, big news breaking today about scary star stalkers. The targets - Ryan Seacrest, Miley Cyrus, Justin Timberlake.
TV`s first provocative entertainment news show starts right now.
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Hi there, everyone. I`m Brooke Anderson coming to you tonight from Hollywood.
And tonight, Jon begs Kate to forgive him. What we are about to show you to truly extraordinary. Jon Gosselin caught on tape at a Jewish temple publicly asking Kate to forgive him for acting like such a jerk. And the Rabbi Jon was with is with us tonight for an exclusive interview you will see only on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT.
But wait, there is more. Just a short time ago, the nation watched as Kate went on television tonight and was grilled by an NBC News correspondent. I have to tell you that these latest developments in the Jon and Kate drama seemed almost surreal today. And they made for big news breaking.
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(voice-over): First, he was a devoted husband and father of eight. Then, he was in the tabloids as a hard partying ladies` man. Now, SHOWBIZ TONIGHT can tell you Jon Gosselin is turning over a new leaf, so he says.
J. GOSSELIN: To ask for forgiveness from someone who may never forgive me is tough for me.
ANDERSON: At a public event, Sunday night, in a New York City synagogue, Jon Gosselin had his own night of atonement. He is apologizing to his soon to be ex-wife, Kate.
J. GOSSELIN: I do apologize to Kate. I am sorry for doing the things I did and I do ask for her forgiveness.
HAMMER: Jon is also announcing a break from his 22-year-old girlfriend as he admits to the world he has been screwing up.
J. GOSSELIN: It`s hard. I didn`t really grow up this way.
JO PIAZZA, AOL POPEATER: Jon Gosselin is finally on this big apology tour. You know, he was on his famed (UNINTELLIGIBLE) tour in 2009. And now, he`s decided that he wants the general public to like him again.
ANDERSON: The general public stopped liking Jon soon after he and Kate announced their split this past summer.
PIAZZA: His behavior has really been that of a high school teenage boy let loose when his parents go out of town.
ANDERSON: Several months and lots of bad headlines later, a new, more humble Jon Gosselin landed in this synagogue for an apologetic and public chat with his new spiritual advisor, celebrity rabbi, Shmuley Boteach,
PIAZZA: Rabbi Shmuley is something of a celebrity rabbi in the industry. He was Michael Jackson`s personal spiritual advisor.
ANDERSON: With prodding from Rabbi Shmuley before a reported 50 paying audience members, Jon admitted he hasn`t exactly been the best role model for his children.
J. GOSSELIN: I will be the model of my daughter`s husbands. So if I act the way I have, they will probably marry someone like me.
RABBI SHMULEY BOTEACH, JON GOSSELIN`S SPIRITUAL ADVISER: Would you want them -
J. GOSSELIN: In the last eight months, probably not. That would be very bad. I would probably be upset with that.
ANDERSON: Jon is also apologizing for starting a controversial relationship with 22-year-old Hailey Glassman, the daughter of the doctor who performed Kate`s tummy tuck.
Hailey and Jon became a very public twosome very soon after Jon and Kate announced their split. At his synagogue confessional, Jon admitted that was a bad move, a confession seen this morning on "Good Morning America".
J. GOSSELIN: I apologize to her for openly having relationships in the public eye. And that was a huge mistake, because if she would have done that to me, it`s almost a stab in the back.
ANDERSON: Just last week, Hailey accused Jon of being emotionally abusive. Now, Jon is owning up to that. And in his confessional shown this morning on "Good Morning America," Jon says he and Hailey are putting the brakes on their relationship until after his divorce.
J. GOSSELIN: I don`t want another failure in my relationship from my past actions. I don`t want to make the same mistakes I did with Kate, with Hailey.
ANDERSON: Entertainment journalist Jo Piazza tells SHOWBIZ TONIGHT said she is not exactly sure Gosselin is giving up his fame-seeking ways.
PIAZZA: It seems like Jon is choosing to work with Rabbi Shmuley - it shows that he is not actually ready to give up fame. It was not like he went to the local synagogue or to the priest down the street. He chose a celebrity rabbi.
I buy the fact that Jon is, indeed, sorry. Is he genuinely sorry for what he`s done, or is he sorry because America now dislikes him for what he`s done, is the question.
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ANDERSON: SHOWBIZ TONIGHT is also breaking big news tonight. Because coming up right here, get ready for my explosive one-on-one exclusive with the rabbi who was with Jon Gosselin last night. It`s the headline-making interview you will see only right here on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT.
So here`s tonight`s burning question, and it comes down to this. Should Kate accept Jon`s apology?
With us tonight in New York, Cooper Lawrence, who is a psychologist and author of the book "Cult of Celebrity." And in Hollywood tonight, Carlos Diaz, who is a correspondent for "Extra."
OK. It really was startling to me to see how apologetic Jon was. I have to say there was no ambiguity. He came right to the point and the whole nation got to see it this morning when it was played on "Good Morning America". Watch.
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J. GOSSELIN: And I apologize to her for openly having relationships in the public eye. And that was a huge mistake, because if she would have done that to me, it`s almost like a stab in the back.
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ANDERSON: Yes. Well, and then, Jon plain and simple, asked Kate to forgive him. Cooper, should she?
COOPER LAWRENCE, PSYCHOLOGIST AND AUTHOR: Well, let`s put aside the fact that these are two media whores. Let`s look at them as two people -
ANDERSON: Let`s put that out.
COOPER: No, it`s serious, because these are two people who have eight children between them and they are getting divorced.
And I think - yes, the research shows that forgiveness is actually good for you, because if you hold on to anger, it leads to, not only anxiety and depression, but also leads to other health issues.
So for her, just letting go is really - could be a good thing for her regardless of how you feel about each of them individually as human beings.
ANDERSON: Carlos, your take. Should Kate forgive him?
CARLOS DIAZ, CORRESPONDENT, "EXTRA": She has no choice but to forgive him. This is a brilliant move on Jon`s part. And I disagree because in the piece, he was like, well, he`s seeing Rabbi Shmuley, who is a famed rabbi.
But what he`s doing is, he`s saying sorry to the world, not just a rabbi. But see, here`s the thing. He says he`s sorry. And now, Kate can no longer say, "I don`t know this man anymore. He`s going out with these women. He`s doing all these different things."
She is forced to say, "I forgive you or I don`t." And if she doesn`t, she`s the bad person.
ANDERSON: But is she - but these are just words right now, Carlos. These are not actions. These are just words right now.
DIAZ: There are actions. Today, he went back to Pennsylvania. He was in New York last night. He went to Pennsylvania today and went back to cleaning up the kids and cleaning up the house and being a dad again. So he is being a dad again. He is forcing her to say, "OK, I forgive you. You are being a dad."
ANDERSON: Well, we`ll see if that lasts. Hopefully, it will. He`s got to put money where his mouth is. And while Jon is asking Kate to forgive him, I have to wonder what she`s thinking because, on the other hand, Jon blamed Kate last night for the way he acted, saying, quote, "I was looking for the affirmation at the clubs and bars that I wasn`t getting from Kate at home. I think was giving love and it was being reciprocated back to me. I didn`t feel respected. She always said I was the ninth child, and I felt like the ninth child."
Cooper, it seems to me Jon is saying, "Yes, I`ll apologize. But Kate, you`ve got some apologizing to do yourself."
LAWRENCE: Well, we all saw the show. I mean, she was more than just disrespectful. She was emasculating at times. So there is no surprise that he would overreact afterwards, after their divorce, after they separated, by dating anything that would have him, anything under the age of 25.
I mean, it`s no shock there. I think a lot of men do that. But you know, I think he did do it. He was hurtful to her. So I think he should own up to his responsibility regardless of what the impetus was.
ANDERSON: Well, Jon was not the only one speaking out. Just a short time ago, the nation watched an extraordinary interview with Kate that was broadcast tonight on TLC, home of the "Jon & Kate Plus 8" show.
Kate sat down for an hour-long interview with NBC News correspondent Natalie Morales that was taped before Jon`s public apology. She talked about the toll that the last few months have taken on her. Take a look.
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NATALIE MORALES, NBC NEWS CORRESPONDENT: How is this affecting you all that we don`t see?
KATE GOSSELIN, REALITY TV STAR, "JON & KATE PLUS 8": I`m awake in the middle of the night, thinking, "Am I making the best decision?"
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ANDERSON: So there`s Kate on of the left, speaking on TV tonight in a nationwide special. Jon on the right speaking before 50 - count them - 50 paying customers at a New York City synagogue. Carlos, quickly, what`s wrong with this picture? It seems to me Kate is coming across as much more powerful.
DIAZ: No, I disagree, because Jon`s interview was seen in its entirety. You can watch the whole interview and get an opinion with Jon. Kate`s interview was completely edited. It was edited by TLC.
And of course, they`re going to want their product, Kate, to look good on TLC. She`s got the crocodile tears flowing in the whole thing. And it`s the same Kate we`ve seen over and over again.
At least, we`re seeing a different Jon with this - with him apologizing. It`s a Jon we have never seen. It`s the Kate we have seen a thousand times before.
ANDERSON: OK. Good point. Carlos Diaz, Cooper Lawrence, we appreciate your insight. Thanks. And another reminder that, coming up, my explosive one-on-one exclusive with the rabbi who was with Jon Gosselin last night. It`s the headline-making interview you will see only on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT.
Moving on now, I just cannot believe this brand-new, just released Anna Nicole Smith tape. Watch.
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SMITH: Look how big my belly`s getting. It`s gas.
UNIDENTIFIED CHILD: It`s your baby.
SMITH: No, it`s gas.
UNIDENTIFIED CHILD: It`s your baby.
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ANDERSON: Anna Nicole Smith mistaking her pregnancy for gas? Where did this chilling tape come from? And could it lead to serious jail time for Anna`s former boyfriend, Howard K. Stern and her doctors?
Brand-new tonight, it`s Lohan versus Lohan. Lindsay goes after her dad, Michael, in a startling public rant. She even calls him a lunatic. Will Lindsay even take her own dad to court?
And for the very first time, the mother of the baby who miraculously survived getting hit by a train speaks out. I can`t even bear to watch this video rolling on to the tracks. This is SHOWBIZ TONIGHT on HLN.
And now, the "SHOWBIZ News Ticker" - more stories from the SHOWBIZ TONIGHT newsroom making news right now.
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ANDERSON: Tonight, will Jay Leno return to "The Tonight Show?" A brand- new interview revealed today with "Broadcasting and Cable" magazine, Leno says he would rather have stayed on "The Tonight Show."
And Leno said that if he was asked, he`d go back. Right now, "The Tonight Show" hosted by Conan O`Brien is getting beaten by David Letterman. And Leno`s 10:00 p.m. show isn`t doing so hot. But no changes are in the works yet.
Welcome back to SHOWBIZ TONIGHT. I`m Brooke Anderson in Hollywood.
Tonight, three very scary stalker stories involving three big stars. Brand-new breaking details late today about "American Idol" host Ryan Seacrest`s alleged stalker. Is Ryan in danger?
Also, breaking tonight, Justin Timberlake wins a temporary restraining order against a woman who trespassed onto the grounds of his home in Los Angeles.
And brand-new questions tonight surrounding Miley Cyrus` safety. Prosecutors say they didn`t have enough evidence to charge Miley`s alleged stalker.
Joining me tonight in Hollywood, Kim Serafin who is a senior editor for "In Touch Weekly."
Kim, let`s get right to it. I want to begin with this scary Ryan Seacrest stalker story. Late today, a guy named Chidi Uzomah was formally charged with stalking Seacrest after slipping into the studios at E! where Ryan does his radio and TV shows.
Now, back in September, the same guy was arrested for attacking Seacrest`s security guard outside a hospital in Orange County. Kim, this has got to be incredibly, incredibly scary for Ryan.
KIM SERAFIN, SENIOR EDITOR, "IN TOUCH WEEKLY": Oh, it`s very scary, especially someone like Ryan Seacrest whose job it is to kind of be out there. You can turn on the radio every morning and you know exactly where Ryan is - he`s at E! or when he was at the children`s hospital in Orange County.
He was talking about being there, broadcasting live from there, talking about all the celebrities that were there. And this is his appeal, too - being able to Twitter, being able to talk about where he is and what restaurant he went to, what celebrity he is seeing or talking to.
ANDERSON: Yes.
SERAFIN: So it`s very scary because it`s not like Angelina Jolie where he can kind of go off and shoot a movie. His job is to be out there.
ANDERSON: You`re right. Great point. And listen to this - TMZ reports that the U.S. Army confirms this guy is currently a member of the U.S. Army Reserves and is assigned to a Special Forces unit.
Now, Ryan was granted a temporary restraining order and there will be a court hearing, November 17th, to try to extend that for three years.
Moving now to another scary stalker story, this one involving Justin Timberlake. Listen to this - for a third time, 48-year-old Karen J. McNeil made it on to Timberlake`s property before being placed into protective psychiatric custody.
Kim, Justin has just gotten a temporary restraining order. I`ve got to wonder why he waited so long.
SERAFIN: Yes. You have to wonder that, especially because apparently, this woman had restraining orders against her from Axl Rose and the guys from Metallica, too. But at the same time, the court filings show that her behavior apparently had become more ominous, more threatening.
Justin Timberlake has a lot of obsessed fans, a lot of people who, you know, send him gifts or say that they love him or want to be near him or show off at concerts. So you have to find that balance between who is just a groupie or a big fan and someone that is dangerous. Obviously, it got to the point where she was considered dangerous.
ANDERSON: Oh, they`ve got to be very, very aware of their surroundings, very careful. It`s truly, truly frightening. Kim Serafin, thank you so much. We appreciate it.
OK. Just a short time ago, Kate Gosselin was interviewed by NBC News. And our "Showbiz on Call" phone lines are still being flooded with calls about Jon and Kate.
We`ve got a call from Carrie in Pennsylvania. She thinks the women that defend Jon are way off.
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CALLER: I`m a little annoyed at the fact that people, especially women, keep saying that he`s such a great guy when he`s out gallivanting around and even his girlfriend, who`s 22, is talking crap on him. When his wife is keeping a low profile and doing everything she can to take care of her children.
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ANDERSON: Carrie, thank you for your call. Debbie, calling in to "Showbiz on Call" from Mississippi, thinks Kate is a hypocrite.
CALLER: I`m really sick and tired of Kate making Jon to be the money- hungry, the wild lifestyle, like he`s an unfit father. And look at her. It`s a pot calling the kettle black. Not only does she love celebrity, she is celebrity-hungry. She`s money-hungry.
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ANDERSON: Thank you, Debbie. Call us at "Showbiz on Call" and let us know what you think about this or anything else. The number - 1-888-SBT-BUZZ; 1-888-728-2899. Leave us a voicemail. We`ll play your calls here on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT.
And tonight, Jon is apologizing to Kate. Jon begs Kate to forgive him for all his womanizing.
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J. GOSSELIN: I apologize to her for openly having relationships in the public eye. And that was a huge mistake because if she would have done that to me, it`s almost like a stab in the back.
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ANDERSON: Jon does all this at a Jewish temple. Unbelievable. Tonight, the rabbi who was right there at Jon`s side is right here in the exclusive interview you will see only on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT.
Every time I see this video, I just have to turn away. The baby who survived being hit by a train, his stroller rolling on to the tracks. Tonight, the mother of that baby speaks out for the first time.
And also this -
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SMITH: You know when you are having gas and you feel it and it`s like - ow!
UNIDENTIFIED CHILD: That`s your baby kicking you.
SMITH: No.
UNIDENTIFIED CHILD: She`s having brain trouble.
UNIDENTIFIED CHILD: Brain trouble.
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ANDERSON: The brand-new, disturbing Anna Nicole Smith tape. Anna mistaking her pregnancy for gas. This is SHOWBIZ TONIGHT on HLN.
And now, the "SHOWBIZ News Ticker" - more stories from the SHOWBIZ TONIGHT newsroom making news right now.
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ANDERSON: Did you see this? This beautiful woman with the great voice. You know her. She`s HLN`s "MORNING EXPRESS" anchor, Robin Meade. She can really sing, too, as was obvious from that.
Robin, who we all watch on HLN, weekday mornings, was at a concert in Atlanta. The show, "David Foster and Friends." Mega-producer Foster has worked with Celine Dion, Josh Groban, Andrea Bocelli, just to name a few.
Now, David surprised Robin. He told the audience he heard her singing on YouTube and invited her on stage. Robin knocked it out of the park singing Linda Ronstadt`s "When Will I Be Loved."
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Robin Meade, the next "American Idol?" I think it`s possible.
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And now, the SHOWBIZ lineup - here`s what`s coming up on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT. Jon Gosselin`s dramatic, brand-new apology to Kate at a Jewish temple.
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J. GOSSELIN: And I apologize to her for openly having relationships in the public eye. And that was a huge mistake, because if she would have done that to me, it`s almost like a stab in the back.
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ANDERSON: Tonight, the rabbi at Jon`s side is right here in the exclusive interview you will see only on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT.
Lindsay Lohan calls her dad a lunatic in a new public rant.
Also this -
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SMITH: Look how big my belly`s getting, because it`s gas.
UNIDENTIFIED CHILD: It`s your baby.
SMITH: No, it`s gas.
UNIDENTIFIED CHILD: It`s your baby.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
ANDERSON: The disturbing new video of Anna Nicole Smith mistaking her pregnancy for gas. This is SHOWBIZ TONIGHT on HLN.
And now, the "SHOWBIZ News Ticker" - more stories from the SHOWBIZ TONIGHT newsroom making news right now.
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J. GOSSELIN: And I apologize to her for having openly having relationships in the public eye. And that was a huge mistake, because if she would have done that to me, it`s almost like a stab in the back.
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ANDERSON: Now, on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT, the rabbi who is lending a helping hand to Jon Gosselin is right here. Rabbi Shmuley Boteach in the exclusive interview you will see only on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT.
Also, the completely disturbing, just released Anna Nicole Smith video in which she mistakes her pregnancy for gas.
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SMITH: Look how big my belly is getting because it`s gas.
UNIDENTIFIED CHILD: That`s your baby.
SMITH: No, it`s gas.
UNIDENTIFIED CHILD: It`s your baby.
ANDERSON: It`s a chilling video and brings up some very disturbing questions.
Lindsay Lohan`s unbelievable public tirade against her own father. Why she`s calling him a lunatic and why she wants to go after him in court.
Plus, more stories breaking from the "SHOWBIZ News Ticker."
TV`s first provocative entertainment news show continues right now.
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ANDERSON: We welcome you back to SHOWBIZ TONIGHT. It is 30 minutes past the hour. I`m Brooke Anderson coming to you tonight from Hollywood.
Tonight, a SHOWBIZ TONIGHT exclusive - Jon and the rabbi. Jon Gosselin`s incredible confessions last night in an intimate discussion at a New York City synagogue. He revealed all about the pitfalls of fame with his new spiritual advisor, Rabbi Shmuley Boteach.
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J. GOSSELIN: I think I`m just misunderstood. You know, like I said, I`m not a fame seeker.
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ANDERSON: Tonight, we`re going one-on-one exclusively with the rabbi himself. Rabbi Shmuley Boteach is also taking all your burning questions about Jon Gosselin.
And I have to say nothing was off limits last night as Jon revealed so many intimate details about what he`s going through as he navigates this messy divorce smack in the middle of the media frenzy.
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J. GOSSELIN: I apologize to her for openly having relationships in the public eye. And that was a huge mistake.
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ANDERSON: Joining me tonight is Rabbi Shmuley Boteach, founder of This World and author of "The Broken American Male: How to Fix Him." Welcome, Rabbi Shmuley.
BOTEACH: Hi, Brooke. How are you?
ANDERSON: Doing great. Great to have you here.
BOTEACH: Thank you.
ANDERSON: Hey, Jon really put himself out there. He talked about his bad relationships. He apologized to his soon-to-be ex-wife, Kate, discussed why he and Hailey are taking a break, and even went into his own parents` divorce.
It was some really heavy stuff. Rabbi, why did Jon decide to reveal this intimate information right now and also so publicly?
BOTEACH: Well, I think Jon has been rightly condemned for immoral behavior, but he ought to be applauded for moral courage. And last night was an evening of moral courage.
We have high rates of infidelity in the United States. We have high rates of divorce and it`s time that men start taking responsibility for their actions. You can`t humiliate your wife in public and only apologize in private.
So when he said that, "I humiliated my wife. I caused her great pain by being photographed with other women," that was the morally courageous thing to do. And I believe he is doing it now because he understands that he is at a turning point in his.
Will he continue profligate behavior that he cannot approve of, that is not in sync with his own moral convictions? Or will he be the man he wants to be?
One of the things that he said last night that I found the most moving was that he was going to be embarrassed later in life when his children came of age and they would Google his behavior. And he would then feel very uncomfortable because every parent wants to be a hero to his or her kids.
ANDERSON: Yes. And he`s realizing maybe he should take responsibility now possibly before it gets any worse. I do want to take a look now at a very profound moment in your discussion with Jon last night. I have to say he paints a really sad picture of himself as a man who had hit absolute rock bottom when he came to you. Let`s watch.
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J. GOSSELIN: (UNINTELLIGIBLE) I didn`t know what to do anymore. (UNINTELLIGIBLE) a rabbi and that`s who I need to talk to, not because he is Jewish or a rabbi (UNINTELLIGIBLE). But I had no one else.
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ANDERSON: Had no one else. This is a shocking revelation. Rabbi, what kind of person was Jon when he came to you for help?
BOTEACH: Well, let`s go back for a moment. Isn`t that interesting? We live under the illusion in America that fame brings great joy and happiness. Here, you have a man that has become a household name and he`s saying that he was utterly lost, that fame became intoxicating.
And it made him into someone - even though we have to take responsibility for our own actions. But it made him into someone he didn`t want to be. At the outset of your show - three very sad stories - Lindsay Lohan, Jon Gosselin and Anna Nicole Smith.
Fame is destroying people`s lives. Now, fame can be used for very good purposes. And that`s what I`m encouraging Jon to do. I think Jon is someone who`s inspired by his father`s example.
He spoke very eloquently about his father last night as a child`s dentist who treated handicapped children, fixed their teeth so they wouldn`t be bullied and made fun of at school.
And I think when you live under the specter of parents who were not famous, but they were just righteous. They just tried to live decent lives, you begin to assess your own life in light of their example, and you feel inadequate.
And I think Jon really wants to change. Now, having said that, as I spoke to him today over the phone and reminded him - because words last night were very moving and very eloquent. But in the final analysis, he`ll be judged by his actions in the coming future.
ANDERSON: Yes. Absolutely. And you make a great point about fame. It is very dangerous for some who can`t handle it. We asked our SHOWBIZ TONIGHT Facebook fans today what burning questions they had about this.
Our Facebook wall has been buzzing about Jon`s discussion with you, Rabbi, especially when Jon dropped the bombshell that he and his 22-year- old girlfriend, Hailey Glassman, were taking a break. What he said was first seen on TV this morning on "Good Morning America". Let`s watch.
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J. GOSSELIN: Slow things down and calm things down a bit until I get through my divorce and until - I don`t know - everything is settled and OK. I don`t want another failure in my relationship from my past actions. I don`t want to make the same mistakes I did with Kate, with Hailey.
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ANDERSON: Rabbi, here`s a question for you from SHOWBIZ TONIGHT Facebook fan, Donna R., "Are you going to counsel Jon on how wrong it will be if he stays with, Hailey, the daughter of the surgeon who did Kate`s stomach repair after the birth of his eight children? Wouldn`t that be a constant reminder of the pain he put upon his family?" Rabbi, have you and Jon talked about what Donna R. is asking here?
BOTEACH: Well, I think, right now, the reason why putting this relationship on ice a little bit is so important. It`s for three reasons.
Number one, when you are going through a divorce, your children are in a lot of pain. They have to be a priority. You can`t be distracted by a relationship.
Number two, you are not divorced yet. If a marriage is sinking, you either repair it or you dissolve it. But you don`t leave it in limbo. The children deserve clarity.
And finally, number three, you don`t date someone on the rebound. You have to create a relationship out of strength and not out of weakness. So if they return to this relationship and it`s real, then, you know, God bless them.
But I think it`s too premature to talk about other consequences of their relationship. Jon and Kate have eight children. And even if they are not husband and wife, they always will be mom and dad. And those kids now need the priority.
ANDERSON: Absolutely. Well, and speaking of Hailey, though, she did really let Jon have it last week when she went on national TV, told the world that Jon was emotionally abusive. Not only did Jon admit that Hailey was right. He tried to explain last night why he acted like a jerk. Watch this.
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J. GOSSELIN: For 10 years, I kept it all in and never said anything. And emotionally abused people - because it all of a sudden just came out one day. And unfortunately, it was Kate. And unfortunately, it was Hailey.
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ANDERSON: Rabbi, Jon seems to really be owning up to his behavior. But I`ve got to tell you, there are going to be a lot of people out there who are not buying it. How did he seem to you? Did he seem contrived? Did he seem staged at all? Because a lot of people are going to think that was how he came across.
BOTEACH: Well, Brooke, I think, there are two sides of all of us. There is a more sincere, inner side which is more altruistic, selfless. And then, there`s another side of us that can be a bit more narcissistic and a bit more selfish.
I think Jon was speaking from his heart last night. The question is, when he goes back into the limelight, will he be in touch with that inner voice of conscience?
What he said last night was absolutely sincere. You can`t fake that kind of sincerity. But in the final analysis, I think he has to judge his own life and he should be evaluated by the public in light of his future actions and not in light of his comments.
Words are nice but, of course, actions are everything, and he understands that. I said to Jon, "Think about this. No matter how famous you are or rich you are, are you a success in life if the people who mean the most to you think the least of you?"
In the final analysis, it`s not this audience which matters most to Jon and it`s not the TLC audience. It`s his children. They are the ones whose respect he most wants.
ANDERSON: Yes. Very good advice. Rabbi Shmuley Boteach, thank you so much for taking time with us tonight.
BOTEACH: Thank you, Brooke.
ANDERSON: We really appreciate it. And I`m sure Jon really appreciates your advice to him as well. Thank you.
Tonight, just released disturbing video of Anna Nicole Smith.
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SMITH: You know, when you are having gas and you feel it, it`s like - ow!
UNIDENTIFIED CHILD: That`s your baby kicking you.
SMITH: No.
UNIDENTIFIED CHILD: She`s having brain trouble.
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ANDERSON: Anna Nicole caught on tape saying apparently she thought her pregnancy was just a bad case of gas. This is a very chilling video you will have a hard time believing.
Also, Lindsay Lohan`s unbelievable public tirade today against her own father. Why she is calling him a lunatic.
And who can forget this horrifying video - a six-month-old boy run over by a train when his stroller rolled on to the tracks. Amazingly, he survived with barely a scratch. And for the first time today, his mom spoke out about what that moment was like.
This is SHOWBIZ TONIGHT on HLN.
And now, the "SHOWBIZ News Ticker" - more stories from the SHOWBIZ TONIGHT newsroom making news right now.
TEXT: Elton John in the hospital recovering from flu and E. coli infection. Rod Stewart, Colbie Caillat will perform on "Dancing With the Stars" Tuesday.
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SMITH: Look how big my belly`s getting. It`s gas.
UNIDENTIFIED CHILD: It`s your baby.
SMITH: No, it`s gas.
UNIDENTIFIED CHILD: It`s your baby.
SMITH: No, it`s gas.
UNIDENTIFIED CHILD: It`s your baby.
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ANDERSON: Brand-new startling video obtained by SHOWBIZ TONIGHT today of a dazed and confused Anna Nicole Smith in clown face in a home video shot in 2006. Did she really think her pregnancy was a case of bad gas?
Welcome back to SHOWBIZ TONIGHT. I`m Brooke Anderson in Hollywood.
Tonight, did Anna Nicole Smith really forget she was pregnant and thought she had gas? In this unbelievable video obtained today by SHOWBIZ TONIGHT, Anna Nicole actually believes her baby bump is a horrible case of gas. It`s the disturbing video you have to see to believe.
Also breaking tonight, Lindsay Lohan strikes back at her dad. Why is she taking to her Twitter page to call her father a lunatic?
Joining me tonight in New York is Jane Velez-Mitchell who is the host of the fabulous show, "ISSUES WITH JANE VELEZ-MITCHELL" which you can catch every night right here on HLN. Also joining me tonight in Hollywood, Carlos Diaz, who is a correspondent with "Extra."
Jane, Carlos, I have got to start with this video SHOWBIZ TONIGHT uncovered today. It`s absolutely disturbing footage of Anna Nicole Smith in clown make up completely spaced out at a child`s birthday party in 2006. She can`t figure out if she`s pregnant or if she has gas. Watch this.
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SMITH: Do you have some?
UNIDENTIFIED CHILD: The clown needs some medicine.
SMITH: I need some because look how big my belly is getting because it`s gas.
UNIDENTIFIED CHILD: It`s your baby.
SMITH: No, it`s gas.
UNIDENTIFIED CHILD: It`s your baby. The clown doesn`t need gas medicine. She needs baby medicine.
SMITH: No, it`s gas.
UNIDENTIFIED CHILD: Baby. Baby.
SMITH: No, because I can - you know how when you`re having gas and you feel it and it`s like - ow!
UNIDENTIFIED CHILD: That`s your baby kicking you.
SMITH: No. My baby`s over there.
UNIDENTIFIED CHILD: Watch this. It`s real.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Let me get a shot of the baby. Let me just get a shot of the baby right here. Yes. Put it down. OK.
UNIDENTIFIED CHILD: Look. She`s having brain trouble.
UNIDENTIFIED CHILD: Brain trouble.
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ANDERSON: First of all, the fact that this young child was exposed this type of behavior is reprehensible to me. Now, that video presented in court at a hearing that ended with Smith`s doctors and former boyfriend, Howard K. Stern ordered to stand trial on charges they illegally provided her with prescription drugs.
Jane, how could Anna Nicole Smith forget she was pregnant?
JANE VELEZ-MITCHELL, HOST, "ISSUES WITH JANE VELEZ-MITCHELL": Well, first of all, I have to say, Brooke, the fact that she was this apparently stoned and pregnant is so extraordinarily disturbing on so many levels for the health of the child, for example.
But to answer your question, yes, when you are very, very high and stoned, you can forget a lot. You know, there`s that comedy movie, "Dude, Where`s My Car" about two potheads who get wasted when they wake up the next morning and they can`t remember where they left their car.
That`s a comedy, but that kind of thing actually happens all the time. In fact, with alcoholism, for example, there is something called "wet brain" where you destroy so many brain cells that you literally become mentally disabled as a result of the substance abuse. So this can and does happen.
ANDERSON: It`s very, very sad to watch. Now, a judge decided the video will not be played when Stern and Anna`s two doctors go on trial in December, although it will be an evidence.
The judge said he couldn`t be sure this video showed that Anna was on drugs. Carlos, not on drugs? She seems incoherent, totally spaced out. But what do you think? Was she acting?
DIAZ: Well, that`s the thing. I mean, if you have seen this whole video and I have seen the whole thing, there was no point where you see Anna Nicole Smith taking drugs. So it`s wise for the judge not to have this in court for any kind of jury to see.
But if you`ve ever interviewed Anna Nicole Smith, she always kind of acts kind of out there. But this, not knowing that you have a baby in your stomach and thinking that it might be gas - that`s taking it to the nth degree.
ANDERSON: Right. Take it to a whole new level. It is so upsetting to watch. I do want to move now, though, to Lindsay Lohan`s brand-new smackdown with her own father.
This, too, is over prescription drugs. Michael Lohan has been going around telling the world that Lindsay is addicted to prescription drugs. He said he`s going after conservatorship over Lindsay because she won`t go to rehab.
Well, Lindsay took to her Twitter page and wrote this, "My father is a lunatic and doesn`t even deserve such a title since he`s never been around in my life other than when he threatened me and my family. He should be where he has always put himself after verbally abusing and physically abusing people all my life - behind bars."
"It`s sad to get a phone call from my baby sister just now, asking, `Why is daddy doing this?` through tears. He crossed a line and hurt me and my family for the last time. So much for having a dad. I`m going to spend some time with the ones that love me and I love now."
Jane, does Lindsay have the right here to be furious?
VELEZ-MITCHELL: I don`t think so. Personally, this is not coming out of the blue. She has a history of trouble - car accidents, high speed chase, DUI. Very recently, she was an hour and a half late reportedly to court and she got slapped with another extra year of probation. And a judge has also warned her to take her alcohol education classes seriously.
ANDERSON: Yes.
VELEZ-MITCHELL: So I think that, you know, she has a track record and her dad is responding to that. And you know, he`s had his own problems, but - it takes one to know one. So he may actually have the wisdom to be able to see it at this point that she needs help.
ANDERSON: Who knows, Jane? They both have had their issues, but it seems to me that they should both maybe be quiet for a little while. We`re going to end it right there. Jane Velez-Mitchell, Carlos Diaz, thank you both.
Tonight, for the first time, the mother of the baby who narrowly escaped death being run over by a train is speaking out.
Did you see this? Who can forget this horrifying video at a train station outside Melbourne, Australia? A mother goes into a panic as the stroller carrying her 6-month-old son rolls off the platform and into the path of an oncoming train.
The mother almost jumped in front of the train herself. Amazingly, the baby survived with hardly a scratch. On the "Today" show this morning, Matt Lauer asked the mom about that unimaginable moment when the stroller rolled on to the tracks.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: There was a moment that I thought I should jump. But I just thought first thinking that I should have a look at what has happened to him. I just wanted to have a look how is he. And that time, I just - I was blank. I was in complete shock.
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ANDERSON: Oh, baby doing just fine. Truly a miraculous and such a happy ending to that story.
OK. I have some new baby pictures to show you. Let`s take a look. We took baby Kate to the pumpkin patch. There she is. She was a fairy for part of the time and she was a lady bug for part of the time.
Of course, a girl has got to have choices, right? She`s sitting up now on her own. We plopped her among the pumpkins and she had a fabulous time. We had a really fun first Halloween with her. I hope all of you at home had a great Halloween as well.
OK. Not everybody though spent Halloween looking cute in a pumpkin patch. Lots of people went to see a scary movie. And wait until you see this. SHOWBIZ TONIGHT goes undercover inside a movie theater to investigate horror movies. You`ve got to see what we found out. This is SHOWBIZ TONIGHT on HLN.
And now, the "SHOWBIZ News Ticker" - more stories from the SHOWBIZ TONIGHT newsroom making news right now.
TEXT: Second auction for crypt above Marilyn Monroe`s brings in no bids. Ed Norton, Alanis Morissette, Anthony Edwards ran NYC marathon for charity.
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ANDERSON: Did you see this? Heidi Klum and Seal say Halloween is for the birds, showing up dressed like crows for Heidi`s annual Halloween party. Interesting choice.
This Halloween weekend, lots of people went to see the horror movies, "Paranormal Activity" and "Saw VI." But why do people like to be scared? Here`s SHOWBIZ TONIGHT`s Kareen Wynter.
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KAREEN WYNTER, CNN ENTERTAINMENT CORRESPONDENT: Why put yourself through this? Ninety minutes of nail biting, seat sinking fright. That`s not exactly a cheap thrill.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: That`s going to be $18.
WYNTER: We set up our own camera inside a theater. And caught movie-goers like this one, who couldn`t sit still during the late night screening of the number one box office thriller, "Paranormal Activity."
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: What is it?
WYNTER: She was scared speechless after the show.
WYNTER: Were you scared at all?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes.
WYNTER: It`s this harmless adrenaline addiction that psychologists say keeps fanatics teetering on the edge.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I`m like, oh my god. This could actually be real.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We`ll see how I sleep tonight.
JASON REISS, PSYCHOLOGY PROFESSOR, WHEATON COLLEGE: It actually acts as a safe way to experience danger.
WYNTER: Wheaton College Professor Jason Reiss studied psychology of fear and explains why those who crave horror have such an insatiable appetite.
REISS: I can get this intense experience. But no matter how horrible it is, no matter how scary it is or violent it is, as soon as the credits roll, I`m done. Horror has been with us for a really long time as a genre.
WYNTER: For modern spine-chilling films like "Scream" and "Saw" to cult classics -
UNIDENTIFIED ACTOR: It`s alive!
WYNTER: But Reiss says there is a dark side to testing the limits of the human psyche.
REISS: If you are very emotionally invested in movies, then the negative experience is going to stay with you and that is not something that you would enjoy.
WYNTER: According to Hollywood.com, this year, horror movies have already grossed nearly $1 billion in ticket sales. Box office experts say blockbuster films like "Paranormal" could further fuel this growing trend of terror releases.
Reiss says more filmmakers are finding new, creative ways to terrify audiences, like paranormal`s Oren Peli, who believes something as simple as what you can`t see elicits more fear than blood and gore.
OREN PELI, DIRECTOR, "PARANORMAL ACTIVITY": If you can`t see it, you don`t know were they attacked or, you know, where they could be coming from.
WYNTER: Turning such an unpleasant emotion like fear into fun? What a concept.
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ANDERSON: That was SHOWBIZ TONIGHT`s Kareen Wynter. On Friday, we asked you to vote on our SHOWBIZ TONIGHT question of the day. And just moments ago, we got the final results - "Jon Gosselin and Octomom: Should they appear in a reality show together?" Only 11 percent of you say yes. But 89 percent say no.
Some of the E-mails we received. Stacey in Florida, "Jon and octomom is just unfathomable."
Dave in Pennsylvania, "I`m sure enough idiots would watch to satisfy their sick voyeuristic tendencies without feeling guilty."
That`s a wrap for SHOWBIZ TONIGHT. Thank you for watching. I`m Brooke Anderson in Hollywood. Remember, you can catch SHOWBIZ TONIGHT on the 11:00s - 11:00 p.m. Eastern and Pacific, and in the morning, 11:00 a.m. Eastern on HLN.
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