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Jesse James` Lost Interview; Mistress Mayhem; Conan O`Brien-Kirstie Alley Feud; Beyonce Baby News?; Most Provocative Celebrity of the Week
Aired March 26, 2010 - 23:00 ET
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A.J. HAMMER, CO-HOST: Big news breaking today on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT. Jesse James` explosive lost interview revealed today. Jesse saying Sandra Bullock was the best sex he ever had. Jesse claiming he never lied to Sandy.
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JESSE JAMES, SANDRA BULLOCK`S HUSBAND: I`ve been 100 percent honest with her and upfront about everything right from the get-go.
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HAMMER: SHOWBIZ TONIGHT asks today - were there any signs Jesse was about to cheat on Sandra?
Mistress mayhem. Jesse James, Tiger Woods. More and more alleged mistresses coming out of the woodwork today. What`s going on? Is something in the Hollywood water? SHOWBIZ TONIGHT investigates mistress mayhem.
A baby for Beyonce? Brand-new reports today that Beyonce is pregnant. The SHOWBIZ Truth Squad is on the case.
ANNOUNCER: TV`s most provocative entertainment news show starts right now.
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HAMMER: Hello. I`m A.J. Hammer coming to you from New York City.
BROOKE ANDERSON, CO-HOST: I`m Brooke Anderson in Hollywood with big news breaking today. Mistress mayhem.
HAMMER: Yes. Call in the centers for disease control. Get those scientists working on a vaccine because today, SHOWBIZ TONIGHT declared an unofficial epidemic of mistress-itis from Jesse James to Tiger Woods to John Edwards.
The number of women claiming to be mistresses of famous men have gotten so out-of-control we can`t even keep track anymore. There are even more claims today about Sandra Bullock`s husband.
So SHOWBIZ TONIGHT has put its best team of investigative producers on the case to get to the bottom of all this mistress mayhem.
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(voice-over): The economy continues to struggle to escape from a painful recession. But there`s one industry in this country experiencing major growth.
JOSLYN JAMES, ALLEGED MISTRESS OF TIGER WOODS: I was in love with Tiger.
HAMMER: SHOWBIZ TONIGHT can tell you as the Sandra Bullock-Jesse James marital crisis and the Tiger Woods are scandal showing us alleged celebrity mistress business is booming.
NINA PARKER, TMZ: It`s the popular thing. It`s the new black.
HAMMER: It`s a job that requires lots of shamelessness but no college degree. Claiming you slept with a married celebrity can get you national headlines. SHOWBIZ TONIGHT can tell you America is in the throes of mistress mayhem.
SHOWBIZ TONIGHT can tell you, today, a fourth woman is claiming she had an affair with Sandra Bullock`s husband, famous motorcycle enthusiast, Jesse James. SHOWBIZ TONIGHT learned today the alleged fourth mistress has hired Gloria Allred to be her attorney.
GLORIA ALLRED, ATTORNEY: Veronica had a three-year romantic relationship with Tiger Woods.
HAMMER: Allred has already represented not just one, but two of Tiger Woods` alleged mistresses. Today, Allred told SHOWBIZ TONIGHT, quote, "I represent a beautiful model and businesswoman. She had a three-year intimate relationship with Jesse James. She is in the process of trying to decide if she will come forward."
JO PIAZZA, ENTERTAINMENT JOURNALIST: Gloria hasn`t said whether or not she wants to come forward yet. The question is why would you hire Gloria Allred if you`re not planning on cashing in on this somehow?
HAMMER: The three other women claiming affairs with Jesse James are anything but anonymous. They have been all over the celebrity media this week. Stripper Michelle "Bombshell" McGee was the first to publicly claim an affair with James in last week`s "In Touch" magazine.
PIAZZA: There`s been a report that Michelle McGee received as much as $30,000 to tell the story to "In Touch Weekly."
HAMMER: Today, SHOWBIZ TONIGHT asks "In Touch" to comment on reports that the magazine paid McGee. "In Touch" tells us, quote, "As a policy, we do not comment on obtaining stories."
And if a brand-new comment on Michelle McGee`s Facebook page is any indication, she has no intention of leaving the spotlight. In a profanity- laced post today, she slams her critics saying to one, quote, "Enjoy your 15 minutes of fame. They will be shorter than mine."
PIAZZA: Michelle McGee is doing this to get famous. She`s doing it for cash. And she`s doing it because she knows it`s going to put her in the spotlight.
HAMMER: Tiger Woods` alleged mistresses have all but written the book on how to ride an alleged celebrity affair to fame. Lots of women got lots of TV air time with claims of an affair with Woods. And some of them have parlayed that attention into lucrative careers including one who snagged an online commercial.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I decided to do some shopping online.
HAMMER: And on an interview on HLN`s "ISSUES WITH JANE VELEZ-MITCHELL," Joslyn James didn`t rule out using her new-found fame to return to her old career, porn movies.
JOSLYN JAMES: I`m keeping myself open to the possibility of doing some again. But that`s not my main focus.
PIAZZA: There`s so many people making money off of these scandals these days. And the magazine sales are way up. So the magazines are making money. The mistresses are getting paid for their story.
HAMMER: And entertainment journalist, Jo Piazza, tells SHOWBIZ TONIGHT the instant fame and fortune one can get by claiming an affair with a married celebrity sends a bad message to girls everywhere.
PIAZZA: It`s saying, "Don`t bother going to school. Just be a skag."
HAMMER: But the upside - if America`s extremely profitable mistress mayhem continues, the recession will be over pretty quickly. Now, that`s an economic stimulus plan.
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ANDERSON: So forget March madness. It`s mistress mayhem, mistresses practically falling from the sky. Joining me right now in Hollywood, Jim Moret, who is the chief correspondent for "Inside Edition" and author of this fine book, "The Last Day of My Life." Also in Hollywood, Wendy Walsh who is a TV journalist and doctor of psychology.
Wendy, Jim, I think it`s disgusting that these women are trying to make money off of such bad choices. Jim, what do you think? Should we blame the whole Tiger Woods mistress mayhem for this recent explosion of Jesse James claims?
JIM MORET, CHIEF CORRESPONDENT, "INSIDE EDITION": No. And you know what? I don`t know that they are going to have long-term careers.
ANDERSON: Let`s hope not.
MORET: When we heard Michelle McGee talk about 15 minutes of fame, I just felt that will be a short lived career because the nation`s attention span is very, very short. You could see that. We`ve already moved - I think Tiger is grateful for this Jesse James fiasco, because now, the attention is a bit off him.
ANDERSON: Yes. And these mistresses had no pattern to follow. There was no scandal - or Tiger Woods` mistresses had no pattern to follow. There was no scandal of that same magnitude. So I think this probably would have happened regardless.
MORET: The floodgates, once they`re open, you see people come out. Many of these people, certainly in Tiger`s case - I suspect they thought they were the only mistress. And I think they got angry and I think that`s why they all came forward.
ANDERSON: They thought they were loved, the only one loved. Well, clearly, mistress mayhem is the new fame game.
Look at these women. Tiger`s alleged mistress, Rachel Uchitell, has a TV gig. Eliot Spitzer`s call girl, Ashley Dupre, writes a love and sex advice column for "The New York Post." John Edwards` mistress, Rielle Hunter - she did a racy "GQ" spread.
Wendy, I just don`t understand why these home wreckers are able to make careers out of screwing up other people`s lives. Do you get it?
DR. WENDY WALSH, TV JOURNALIST AND DOCTOR OF PSYCHOLOGY: Yes, I do, Brooke. It`s very simple Human beings love to think about sex. It`s our favorite thing. And to, of course, imagine famous, beautiful people having sex and breaking rules is exciting to a lot of people.
And that`s why people are watching today and that`s why we are talking about it. But I think the mistress mayhem is a great new sexual boundary for men because as women, you know, got sexual freedom - it used to be that mistresses were shamed. They were silenced. They hid away somewhere.
Now, they can come forward because there`s no double standard anymore, apparently. And they can just tell their story. So maybe this will start to keep those wandering men in line.
ANDERSON: Oh, let`s hope so. You guys - just when I`m already feeling disgusted and sick to my stomach about all of this, more breaking news today in Jesse James mistress parade.
Tattooed porn star, Michelle "Bombshell" McGee, as you saw in our piece, just posted a brand-new rant on her Facebook page today slamming her critics saying quote, "For all you Internet warriors on here talking (EXPLETIVE DELETED), it`s easy to pass judgment when you`re sitting behind a keyboard."
And then, she slammed people who are speaking out about her, saying this, "Don`t forget why you are getting all this publicity. Enjoy your 15 minutes of fame. They will be shorter than mine."
ANDERSON: This kind of makes me want to vomit. She says her 15 minutes are going to outpace anybody else trying to get famous off this cheating scandal. Jim, you mentioned this. You referred to this earlier. Is she nuts or is she on to something?
MORET: All right. Look, she also said something like, "Those who live in glass houses shouldn`t throw stones and bleep off." That`s what she said. She`s angry. She`s angry but came forward.
You can`t have it both ways. You can`t say, "I`m going to come forward and sell my story. I want the attention, but on my terms." It doesn`t work like that.
And I think a lot of people are really upset about this story in particular because Sandra Bullock is perceived as America`s sweetheart. We feel like we know her and we feel pain for her. And we feel betrayed for her.
ANDERSON: Yes, we`re angry. Absolutely. It`s heartbreaking for Sandra Bullock. And I`m betting though that this mistress epidemic is going to get worse. Because you know that there are other celebrities out there right now who have also cheated, probably shaking in their boots thinking that their mistresses could be the next to go public.
So Wendy, what is your advice to these people? Fess up?
WALSH: No, I don`t think necessarily they should fess up right away. I think that they should turn their heads, their minds and their whole body back to their spouse. And they should get their ethics in line and pray that that type of karma doesn`t fly in on them. That`s basically all they can do at this point.
ANDERSON: Probably saying - yes. Probably saying uh-oh. You might want to be a little bit proactive at this point. Jim Moret, Wendy Walsh, good to see you. Thanks.
HAMMER: All right. Brooke, I am so excited about this coming Monday. I know you are, too, because starting on March 29th, finally, SHOWBIZ TONIGHT - we are live at 5:00 p.m. Eastern Monday through Friday.
ANDERSON: That`s right. A.J. And every night, we are still TV`s most provocative entertainment news show at 11:00 p.m. Eastern and Pacific.
HAMMER: All right. There is an explosive lost Jesse James interview that was revealed today. You`ve got to check this out.
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JESSE JAMES: I have been 100 percent honest with her and upfront about everything right from the get-go.
HAMMER: Sandra Bullock`s husband talking to Howard Stern about how he never lied to Sandra. Yes, right. You don`t want to tell that to her. Jesse also reveals how Sandra`s friends didn`t think he was right for her. Can you say intuition?
Also, SHOWBIZ TONIGHT names the most provocative celebrity of the week today. Who was the most controversial? Who did the most outrageous thing?
And baby alert. Baby alert. Brand-new reports today Beyonce is pregnant. Could it be? Well, I have sent the SHOWBIZ truth squad out to check on this. And I told them, don`t come back without solid answers. This is SHOWBIZ TONIGHT on HLN news and views.
Now, the "SHOWBIZ News Ticker" - more stories from the SHOWBIZ TONIGHT newsroom making news today.
TEXT: Twenty doctors subpoenaed in Corey Haim death investigation. Susan Boyle gets her first major royalty check of $6 million, she may buy a new home.
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ANDERSON: Welcome back to SHOWBIZ TONIGHT. I`m Brooke Anderson in Hollywood with A.J. Hammer in New York. Heidi Montag`s brand-new thrust for global multimedia domination.
HAMMER: Yes, Brooke. It could win her the booby prize. Plus, Miley Cyrus opens up about her love life to the whole world. It`s all making big news in "The Buzz" today.
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(voice-over): Miley`s big love goes public. For the very first time, Miley Cyrus just went public as a couple with boyfriend Liam Hemsworth. They just walked the red carpet together in Los Angeles at the premiere of their movie, "The Last Song."
LIAM HEMSWORTH, ACTOR: Miley and Liam met.
HAMMER: For the first time, while working on the film and finally telling SHOWBIZ TONIGHT they`re just like any couple.
CYRUS: We have our arguments every once in awhile but - like every day. No, I don`t know. And that`s really interesting because a lot of things get on my nerves. And he doesn`t get on my nerves at all.
Dennis Hopper near death. It has just been confirmed for the very first time that Hopper is dying of prostate cancer. The news comes from legal documents in his very ugly divorce battle.
Hopper`s attorneys say he`s too sick to testify in the case and now weighs just over 100 pounds. Hopper, who is perhaps best known for starring in the classic movie, "Easy Rider," is 73 years old.
Heidi Montag`s boobs in 3-D? Montag says that now that her reality series, "The Hills," is ending, she wants to make a 3-D comedy about a small beach down under siege from a shark.
Montag tells "People.com" that she wants to play a lifeguard in the movie and, quote, "save the day with my 3-D boobs. Montag says she wrote a part in the film for Dolly Parton. But perhaps to nobody`s surprise, no studio has green-lit the film yet.
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HAMMER: OK. Heidi saves the day with her 3-D boobs. Great. Now, there`s a mental image I`m going to be stuck with for days.
Right now, in New York, Michelle Fizer who is an entertainment journalist.
Michelle, Heidi`s 3-D movie is really just the latest of her attention-grabbing exploits over the years. Let me do a quick rundown of some of her hits here. Her Heidiwood clothing line flopped after one season.
Heidi`s self-help book for other wannabe reality stars rolled up flat, too. Her debut CD reportedly sold 658 copies worldwide. That`s all.
And now, this 3-D boobs saves the world movie idea. Michelle, is she just totally nuts? Or maybe, is she on to something? Will she have the last laugh if this thing is a blockbuster?
MICHELLE FIZER, ENTERTAINMENT JOURNALIST: I don`t think so, A.J. She`s looking like a big boob to me. And she`s also looking like a broke Britney Spears coming off of that CD. I just don`t understand where she wants to go with these comments.
It`s just like talking about 15 minutes of fame. I think she`s had it. Well, whatever. She looks good.
HAMMER: Yes, she looks good. Best of luck to you, Heidi. Let`s move on to a star who`s making big Hollywood news of her own. Miley Cyrus walking the red carpet for the very first time looking kind of adult-like with her boyfriend there.
Not only that, Miley, as you see, was rocking a very grown-up leather dress. Michelle, is this Miley`s public declaration, "Hey, you know what? I`m going to be 18 in just eight months. If you want me to be a kid, well, get over it"?
FIZER: Sure, why not? This is Miley`s coming out party. She`s probably keeping her boyfriend pretty close to her considering all the men who are sniffing around other women. She`s probably learning something from all these exploits of these other guys in showbiz. And listen, A lot of actors meet their mates on set.
HAMMER: Yes.
FIZER: So there`s nothing new about this. I would only caution her to keep her business kind of to herself because that`s how fewer people are in your business. Fewer people know about it. And that way you can keep it to yourself.
HAMMER: Yes. And the thing is, if she`s going to be out there walking on the red carpet, it`s not really keeping the business to herself if it`s going to be up for us to determine, oh, that`s the person she`s dating because she`s strolling the red carpet with that person.
But we wish you the best Miley, as well. And Michelle Fizer, I thank you.
ANDERSON: I cannot wait to share this unbelievable lost Jesse James interview with you that is just revealed today.
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JESSE JAMES: I have been 100 percent honest with her and upfront about everything right from the get-go.
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ANDERSON: Talk about eating your words, right? Jesse James opening up to Howard Stern about being honest with his wife Sandra Bullock, about his finances, even about Sandy`s friends thinking he was a terrible match for her. I guess that they were on to something.
Jennifer Love Hewitt is defending John Mayer today. J-Love dated John Mayer, you may remember. So did Jessica Simpson. Remember what John said about her - sexual napalm. Well, tonight, Love is on King John.
And the brand-new war today between Kirstie Alley and Conan O`Brien over Kirstie`s weight. Kirstie takes her fight to Rachel Ray.
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RACHEL RAY, TV HOST: You are out promoting the show. You`ve got to do the late night talk circuit.
KIRSTIE ALLEY, ACTRESS: Yes.
RAY: It`s tough to face some people that literally made a living making fun of you.
ALLEY: Some people overdo it a little bit. I don`t want to say names - Conan O`Brien.
ANDERSON: Watch out. This is getting ugly.
HAMMER: And now, the "SHOWBIZ News Ticker" - more stories from the SHOWBIZ TONIGHT newsroom making news today.
TEXT: Bravo declines to comment on story that White House crashers will be in a reality show. Russell Crowe`s "Robin Hood" to open Cannes Film Festival May 12th.
HAMMER: I am fired up to tell you that starting Monday, March 29th, SHOWBIZ TONIGHT will be live 5:00 p.m. Eastern, Monday through Friday. And every night, we are still TV`s most provocative entertainment news show at 11:00 p.m. Eastern and Pacific. This is SHOWBIZ TONIGHT on HLN news and views.
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HAMMER: Jennifer Love Hewitt is defending her ex, John Mayer, today. You know, John spilled all those sexy secrets about Jessica Simpson in that "Playboy" interview, calling her sexual napalm.
Well, that made a lot of people really mad including Jessica and me. I actually think it was pretty tasteless. Well, Love, who I adore and respect, dated Mayer back in 2002. She says, "Hey, John. I got your back." Check out what she just told HLN friend, Joy Behar.
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JENNIFER LOVE HEWITT, ACTRESS: I think some guys do that. I`m not really sure why he made that choice. But you know, look, he`s a decent guy. And I just think that maybe he made a misstep. Sometimes people get comfortable with interviewers and think, you know, well, it`s fine. And they just sort of say things out of turn. I`m really glad that I was left out of there.
JOY BEHAR, HOST, "THE JOY BEHAR SHOW": You say it might have been a mistake, but he`s a serial mis-stepper.
HEWITT: Yes.
BEHAR: I mean, he said other things that are dumb also.
HEWITT: Yes.
BEHAR: He`s just - I think he wants to be hip.
HEWITT: He`s a talker.
BEHAR: He`s a talker?
HEWITT: Yes.
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HAMMER: Yes, that`s for sure. Love, I love you, you know that. But I`m sorry. A big mouth is not a good excuse for what John Mayer said.
ANDERSON: No, it`s not. All right. As soon as we told you about Donny Osmond taking on Lady Gaga over her new video for her song, "Telephone," you started ringing up our Facebook page.
Now, Donny thinks the video is way too sexy, way too violent. Flora C. agrees, "The sad thing about this is: I like Gaga, too, but disgusting is disgusting."
Ashley D. writes, "If Donny or anyone else doesn`t like it, they don`t have to watch it or let their kids watch it."
HAMMER: So we have Facebook. We have Twitter, E-mail. And now, there`s a cool new way you can connect with us. We just launched SHOWBIZ I-Report. Are you fired up about something you saw right here on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT?
Well, then, I would like you to grab your camcorder, your webcam, your cell phone cam. Make a video. Send it to us by going to CNN.com/ShowbizTonight. That`s where you send us your I-Report. And we`ll put some of them right here on the show.
ANDERSON: And now, the SHOWBIZ lineup. Here`s what`s coming up at the bottom of the hour on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT.
Jesse James unbelievable lost interview revealed today.
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JESSE JAMES: I have been 100 percent honest with her and upfront about everything right from the get-go.
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ANDERSON: That`s right. That`s alleged cheater Jesse saying he was totally honest with his wife Sandra. Seriously?
Is Ms. Beyonce pregnant? Reports spreading like wildfire today. So we just had to send the SHOWBIZ truth squad to check this one out.
And it is time for SHOWBIZ TONIGHT to name the most provocative celebrity of the week. Who caused the most controversy? Who was totally outrageous?
And now, the "SHOWBIZ News Ticker" - more stories from the SHOWBIZ TONIGHT newsroom making news today.
TEXT: "Heroes" star Hayden Panettiere visits Japanese town, pushes to end dolphin hunt. Oscar nominee Carey Mulligan to star in "My Fair Lady" remake, Emma Thompson writing.
HAMMER: I am very excited about this. This coming Monday, March 29th, SHOWBIZ TONIGHT will be live at 5:00 p.m. Eastern, Monday through Friday. And keep in mind every night, we are still TV`s most provocative entertainment news show at 11:00 p.m. Eastern and Pacific. This is SHOWBIZ TONIGHT on HLN news and views.
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JESSE JAMES: I have been 100 percent honest with her and upfront about everything right from the get-go.
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HAMMER: Now, on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT, Jesse James explosive lost interview. Today, Jesse in his own words. The shocking new details he`s spilling about his life with Sandra, their love life and even their finances.
Big news breaking today. Is Beyonce pregnant? The Showbiz truth squad sets the record straight. Does Beyonce have a little bun in the oven?
Kirstie`s big diss to Conan. Today, a brand-new SHOWBIZ smackdown - Kirstie Alley versus Conan O`Brien.
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RAY: You are promoting the show. You`ve got to do the late night talk circuit.
ALLEY: Yes.
RACHEL: It`s tough facing people that literally made a living making fun of you.
ALLEY: Some people overdo it a little bit. I don`t want to say names - Conan O`Brien.
HAMMER: Plus, more stories breaking from the "SHOWBIZ News Ticker."
ANNOUNCER: TV`s most provocative entertainment news show continues right now.
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HAMMER: Welcome back to SHOWBIZ TONIGHT. It`s 30 minutes past the hour. I`m A.J. Hammer, coming to you from New York City.
ANDERSON: And I`m Brooke Anderson in Hollywood with big news breaking today as we go inside Sandra`s marriage.
HAMMER: Yes, Brooke. It is the lost interview that everybody has been buzzing about all day long today. It`s Sandra`s husband, Jesse James, virtually unplugged about all things Sandra.
And in this headline-making interview, Sandra`s husband, Jesse, reveals a whole slew of details about his marriage to Sandra.
In his interview that SHOWBIZ TONIGHT uncovered today, I can tell you, Sandra`s husband does not leave anything to the imagination about how his marriage to America`s sweetheart worked including details about their love life, their finances, even about their prenup.
And even more telling confession from Sandra herself. Wait until you hear what we learned Sandra said about Tiger Woods` wife, Elin, and how she would have handled Tiger`s cheating scandal and what she would do if she were Elin. It`s incredible.
Right now, in Hollywood, Jim Moret, who is the chief correspondent for "Inside Edition" and the author of "The Last Day of My Life." And in New York is Michelle Fizer who is an entertainment journalist.
All right, guys. I`ve got to begin with this lost interview. Jesse James did the interview with Howard Stern back in May of last year on Howard`s Sirius XM Radio satellite radio show. And this is long before this cheating scandal that has rocked their marriage took place.
It is unbelievable how much Jesse just opened up about his relationship with Sandra Bullock, even telling Howard about meeting Sandra and being honest and open with her from the very beginning. Well, listen to this.
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JESSE JAMES: I have been 100 percent honest with her and upfront about everything right from the get-go where like some of the things I had to tell her at the beginning of our relationship like I was with a porn star. Hey, we`re having a kid.
HOWARD STERN, RADIO TALK SHOW HOST: Right.
JESSE JAMES: And all the stuff in like several points, I expected her just to turn around and run. It`s been really hard but it`s a testament to what an amazing woman Sandy is.
(END AUDIO CLIP)
HAMMER: Unbelievable. I hear this and I shake my head because, keep in mind again, this is less than a year ago when Jesse was saying all these things. And it sounds like he was believing these things.
Jim, it doesn`t sound to me anything like the guy who is accused of hiding his mistresses from Sandra.
MORET: You know, I remember listening to this interview live on Howard Stern`s show. He did a great interview because Jesse James really did open up. And hearing it now, 10 months later, in light of what we discovered may have been happening in the marriage, it`s just shocking because everything he said - it just sounds like a lie.
"I was totally honest with her. She`s the best lover I have ever had. She`s the only one. We lead a normal life. I`m faithful." You know, it hurts listening to it now.
HAMMER: Yes.
MORET: But it`s disturbing because we are seeing now, as you talked earlier about this parade of mistresses coming forward.
HAMMER: Yes. And again, it sounds - listening to - I remember hearing it live as well like he really believed everything he was saying.
Michelle, let me get your take. Hearing Jesse brag that, you know, he was Mr. Honesty, that makes what he did seem even worse to me. What about you?
FIZER: Oh, totally. Totally, there`s deception. There`s deceit. The thing is he may have been honest about his past, but was he being honest about his present with Sandra? Obviously not.
So you know, the truth is, he`s got all kinds of skeletons falling out of his closet. And now, that interview is just kaput. We cannot believe anything.
I totally feel sorry for her. She can`t believe anything this guy says. He could be some type of just a liar, just all the time. Nothing`s true.
HAMMER: Yes. Brooke Anderson, he claims he was honest. We heard it. We are talking about it. He says, "When we first met, it was an open book between the two of us." What do you think happened?
ANDERSON: I think liar, liar pants on fire. And listen, one of the mistresses says their affair happened when Sandra was away on location filming "The Blind Side." And some men just can`t handle their wives` long absences. They`re weak. They`re cowards, and so they cheat on their wives. That`s what I think happened.
HAMMER: Well, SHOWBIZ TONIGHT, of course, has lots more of the lost Jesse James interview with Howard Stern on his Sirius XM radio show. Jesse also opened up about his finances with Sandra. Listen to this.
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JESSE JAMES: Everything is totally separate.
STERN: What do you do when the bills come in?
JESSE JAMES: Well, you know, I pay my bills and she pays hers.
STERN: And what about the joint bills? What about the electric - you both use the lighting.
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JESSE JAMES: If you love someone as much as I love her, nothing is an issue in that respect. We just handle our own stuff. And you know, some stuff I pay for, some stuff she pays for.
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HAMMER: Yes. And you know, Jim, Howard loves to ask about the prenup. Jesse James confirmed to Howard in the interview that he and Sandra did have a prenup.
So Jim, I`m thinking given that Sandra is a much bigger star than him with a lot more money, she`s very thankful at this point she had the prenup drawn up.
MORET: Well, you know, they don`t have children. They both have their own businesses. He has a very successful business, West Coast Choppers. She has a brand name to herself, very successful actress and producer.
And they have their own lives professionally. And it makes the split that much easier. It doesn`t make it easier emotionally, certainly. But it doesn`t surprise me that they have a prenup. I would have expected it.
HAMMER: Yes. I would have expected it as well. And I just think, you know, she`s now saying, yes, it was definitely the right choice if she had any doubts at the time.
Jesse did drop another bombshell in this interview. He confessed to Howard Stern on his show that Sandra`s girlfriends actually wanted Sandra to walk away from the relationship from the very beginning. Listen to that.
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STERN: Did people try to break you guys up at all at first?
JESSE JAMES: Well, all of her friends, absolutely, like, "100 percent, no way. We are putting a stop to this. This is no good."
STERN: I was going to call and put a stop to it -
JESSE JAMES: Really?
STERN: What are you doing honey? No, I don`t know her. I had no idea what was going on.
(END AUDIO CLIP)
HAMMER: It`s amazing to hear that coming out of Jesse`s mouth because so many people have been saying the same thing. And they said it when they first spoke up.
Something else that is amazing in retrospect. What we just learned that Sandra said about Tiger Woods wife. Brooke, what is that about?
ANDERSON: A.J., an interview that Sandra did really makes me feel so badly for her. In an interview with "The Insider" at the People`s Choice Awards just weeks before her marriage to Jesse imploded, Sandra came out swinging when asked about how she would have handled Tiger Woods` cheating scandal if she were Elin. Watch.
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SANDRA BULLOCK, ACTRESS: I would have hit a lot more than she did. I would have kept hitting.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You would still be swinging the golf club?
BULLOCK: Yes, she`s tough. She was respectable. I`d get the baseball bat. I`d get everything out.
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ANDERSON: Yes, I would have said the same thing. I think that most women probably would, in fact. Michelle, Jesse James should be thanking his lucky stars that Sandra was nowhere near a bat when she found out what he allegedly did.
FIZER: Oh, yes. But it`s never too late. I say she could still get the bat out, right? There`s no - there`s no standard. She could still get the bat out and - go Sandra. I think everybody would be - I mean, I don`t advocate violence in any situation.
But of course, you are mad. She`s angry. She`s embarrassed. This is a total distrust and total collapse of her marriage, of course. Anyone would be angry in this situation.
HAMMER: Jim Moret, that really gives us an insight, doesn`t it, into Sandra and what she may be thinking about right now.
MORET: Well, you know, it`s a natural response, what she said. The tragedy, of course, is that it`s now all public. And the humiliation, the shame - all of that is made public in what otherwise could have been a private matter. And now, everyone is reading about it and talking about it.
HAMMER: Well, Jim Moret, Michelle Fizer, we thank you both. I appreciate it.
All right. We have been asking you to vote on our SHOWBIZ TONIGHT question of the day. Please sound off on this - "Sandra Bullock Marriage Crisis: Is it time for Jesse James to tell all?"
We are getting a lot of strong reaction today. Please keep it coming by voting CNN.com/ShowbizTonight. You can also E-mail us your thoughts, showbiztonight@cnn.com is the address.
ANDERSON: Hey, we`ve got some really exciting news to tell you about. Starting Monday March 29th, SHOWBIZ TONIGHT will be live every day at 5:00 p.m. Eastern, Monday through Friday.
HAMMER: And don`t forget, we are still TV`s most provocative entertainment news show every night at 11:00 p.m. Eastern and Pacific.
ANDERSON: Right now, Kirstie Alley`s explosive outrage with Conan O`Brien. Today, the new showbiz smackdown - Kirstie versus Conan.
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RAY: So you`re out promoting the show. You`ve got to do the late night talk circuit.
ALLEY: Yes.
RAY: It`s tough facing people that literally made a living making fun of you.
ALLEY: Some overdo it a little bit. I don`t want to say names - Conan O`Brien.
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ANDERSON: And SHOWBIZ TONIGHT names the most provocative celebrity of week. Who was the most controversial this week? Who was the most outrageous?
Plus the big news breaking today - Beyonce pregnant? The SHOWBIZ truth squad is on the case. And today, we are revealing the truth about the Beyonce baby news. Is there a little Sasha Fierce or a little Jay-Z on the way? This is SHOWBIZ TONIGHT on HLN news and views.
Time now for the "SHOWBIZ News Ticker." These are more stories from the SHOWBIZ TONIGHT newsroom making news today.
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HAMMER: It`s Friday. You know what that means. Today, we name SHOWBIZ TONIGHT`s most provocative celebrity. So who will take home the top honor of this week?
Welcome back to SHOWBIZ TONIGHT. I`m A.J. Hammer in New York with Brooke Anderson Hollywood. We`re going to get to naming SHOWBIZ TONIGHT`s most provocative celebrity of the week in just a moment. But first, the Kirstie Alley-Conan O`Brien smackdown.
ANDERSON: Yes, A.J. Today, an explosive new battle in the Kirstie Alley- Conan O`Brien feud. The war of words started when O`Brien relentlessly joked about Alley`s weight on his late night show.
At first, Kirstie shot back at Conan on her Twitter page. Well, just today, Kirstie might have gotten the last laugh when she lashed out at Conan again on Rachel Ray`s talk show.
With me right now in Hollywood is Annabelle Gurwitch who is the co- author of "You Say Tomato, I Say Shut Up". And joining me right now from New York, Ben Widdicombe, who is a celebrity journalist.
Annabelle, Ben, just today, Kirstie Alley on Rachel Ray`s daytime talk show promoting her new reality show, "Kirstie Alley`s Big Life." Rachel asked Kirstie if it was tough going on the late night talk shows being interviewed by many of the stay-in comedians who poked fun at her weight. Watch.
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ALLEY: It is, sort of. But you know, really, most of those people have had - they`ve been in some pickles themselves.
RAY: Yes, exactly.
ALLEY: And some people overdo it a little bit. I don`t want to say names - Conan O`Brien. And I don`t want to say the word karma, but he doesn`t have a show and I do.
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ANDERSON: Sounds a little like Kirstie`s holding a bit of a grudge, out to get even with Conan. Do you think that Kirstie is getting a little too much enjoyment out of the fact that Conan`s show was canceled right around the same time she`s launching a new show? Or is this all just in good fun?
BEN WIDDICOMBE, CELEBRITY JOURNALIST: Well, you know, I want to like Kirstie Alley, but that did sound a little too much like gloating to me, you know. And I follow her on Twitter.
And sometime, she can be just a tad obnoxious in that medium. So listen, I think she`s great. She certainly made fun of herself on that show, "Fat Actress," about being overweight. And she`s done comedy. She knows how it is, so she shouldn`t be gloating that Conan doesn`t have a show.
ANDERSON: And the ultimate revenge will be if her show is a long term success. If not, they are both at square one. And we do know Conan is gearing up for a multi-city comedy tour starting in April.
Annabelle, I`m thinking Conan could look at this, not as a war, but as a new, real opportunity for new material. It could benefit him.
ANNABELLE GURWITCH, CO-AUTHOR, "YOU SAY TOMATO, I SAY SHUT UP": Oh, absolutely. First of all, if Conan O`Brien has incurred bad karma by talking about Kirstie Alley and guys who (UNINTELLIGIBLE) on his show, give me that kind of bad karma.
If I can talk about Kirstie Alley and get over $30 million to not work, sign me up. What can I say about her? Let me start now.
ANDERSON: Yes. And she`s really not that sensitive. She`s using it to her advantage as well. And Kirstie Alley, I do have bad news for you tonight. Your feud with Conan O`Brien not enough for you to be named SHOWBIZ TONIGHT`s most provocative celebrity of the week.
Let`s look at the nominees, shall we? Could it be Sandra Bullock`s husband, Jesse James for allegedly cheating on America`s sweetheart? Or could it be Jesse James for his reported, not one, not two, not three, but four mistresses? Or could it be Jesse James for breaking Sandra`s heart right after her Oscar win?
OK. I think we`ve made our point. There was no competition this week. By unanimous vote, SHOWBIZ TONIGHT names Jesse James our most provocative celebrity of the week.
All week, we have alleged mistresses coming out of the woodwork claiming affairs. If these stories are true, I can`t believe Jesse would do this to Sandra. Ben, do you agree with our choice.
WIDDICOMBE: Well, you know, personally, this week, I got a little riled up by that sanctimonious Donny Osmond and the silly remarks he made against Beyonce and Lady Gaga over the "Telephone" video.
But I have to agree with you. Jesse James, this week, with four mistresses. Isn`t this amazing how much this scandal is following the patterns set by the Tiger Woods scandal even down to one of the girls getting Gloria Allred to represent her? So I agree with you. Jesse James, very provocative this week.
ANDERSON: All day long, we have been asking on our Facebook page who should be the SHOWBIZ TONIGHT`s most provocative celebrity of the week. No surprise, everybody said Jesse James the most provocative celebrity.
Chris A. wrote on our wall, "I have to say Jesse James hands down. Sandra is a real lady. And even though you hate to say, `I told you so,` I think we all looked at him and said she is out of his league." Annabelle, really, no competition this week, is there?
GURWITCH: No, there really isn`t, but I have to say, I admire the guy. I admire his time management skills. I mean, look, four mistresses, being married to Sandra Bullock and running a business?
The guy shows men can multitask. But there`s something else about the story. I do have to say that I think that Sandra Bullock suffers from what a lot of women do when they look for a future spouse, which is they look at men like an old house, like a fixer-upper and you can`t change them.
ANDERSON: Maybe that`s what it was. Well, you can`t. Annabelle Gurwitch - very funny - Ben Widdicombe - thank you. Good to see you guys.
HAMMER: Well, today, the truth squad is on a major case, I tell you. The brand-new Beyonce baby bombshell anew. Does Beyonce have a little Sasha Fierce or Jay-Z on the way? The SHOWBIZ truth squad answers all.
And now, the "SHOWBIZ News Ticker" - more stories from the SHOWBIZ TONIGHT newsroom making news today.
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ANDERSON: It`s time now for "Making It Work." This is where we reveal how stars make their relationships work in Hollywood and beyond.
Tonight, Dennis Quaid. Dennis and Kimberly Quaid have been married since 2004. They`ve got twins, a son and a daughter, together. Those twins nearly died days after they were born after an awful medical mix-up.
The babies are fine now, but it`s still tough to juggle fame and family. So when we caught up with Dennis, we just had to ask, how does he make it work?
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DENNIS QUAID, ACTOR: I don`t think it`s any different than any other town, to tell you the truth. Only, you know, this town gets more publicity than any of the others. That`s all.
I think you just have to relax and just take one day at a time. That`s really what it is. Enjoy the ride.
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ANDERSON: This is SHOWBIZ TONIGHT on HLN news and views.
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HAMMER: The SHOWBIZ truth squad is on the case today to reveal brand-new Jay-Z and Beyonce baby news. Beyonce sets the record straight on all the pregnancy rumors.
Word of a little Sasha Fierce on the way exploded this week. But is there really a baby on board for Beyonce? Well, the SHOWBIZ truth squad can reveal to you today Beyonce is not pregnant.
I know. Disappointing. Beyonce`s rep tells SHOWBIZ TONIGHT the new rumors are untrue. Beyonce and Jay-Z finally tied the knot in 2008. I, for one, think a baby would be terrific for Beyonce and Jay.
Listen, when you two love birds have some baby news to break, you can do it right here on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT.
ANDERSON: Ryan Seacrest says all that Ellen-Simon drama is great for "American Idol." Now "Idol" has been full of controversy and surprises this season, but what`s most shocking this year is what`s going on at the judges` table.
Simon and Ellen just have at it. You`ve got to wonder if all of their feuding is why they don`t sit next to one another. "Idol" host Ryan Seacrest was just on CNN`s "LARRY KING LIVE" and told Larry what`s really going on between Simon and Ellen.
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RYAN SEACREST, HOST, "AMERICAN IDOL": The drama is fantastic. I love it. Anything that stirs the pot over there.
LARRY KING, HOST, "LARRY KING LIVE": Do they not like each other? Like each other?
SEACREST: I think they like each other just fine. I think that they come from different points of view. I mean, Simon is off and he`s acerbic and he`s - no offense to him. He`s English. No offense to the English. That`s just who he is.
Ellen is just kind and generous, but she is so genuine. And she`s so quick and funny. So it makes for sparks this season.
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ANDERSON: All the "Idol" drama having a big impact where it matters most for them. The show is still dominating ratings-wise.
HAMMER: On Thursday we asked you to vote on our SHOWBIZ TONIGHT question of the day. And right now, the exclusive final results revealed. We asked you, "Whose new show are you looking forward to the most - Sarah Palin, Rosie O`Donnell, Kate Gosselin?"
The shocking result revealed late today have Rosie beating out Sarah and Kate. And the "Showbiz on Call" phone lines have been ringing nonstop.
Betty Ann from North Carolina is a major Rosie fan and she`s ready for her return.
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BETTY ANN, CALLER FROM NORTH CAROLINA: I`m tired of Kate Gosselin. Please, won`t she just go away? As for Sarah Palin, what is she doing to call her television show since the title "Biggest Loser" is already taken? Rosie, you`re a doll. I can`t wait to see her new show.
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HAMMER: Thank you, Betty. Dana from Texas is pulling for Kate.
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DANA, CALLER FROM TEXAS: I think Kate Gosselin will be very interesting to watch because she`s a single mom now with eight kids. That`s a lot going on. That show is one I`ll definitely be watching.
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HAMMER: All right. Dana, thank you for your call. Now, Sharla from California doesn`t want to see Rosie, Sarah, or Kate. Sharla writes, "Next time, please give us the option of none of them. I wouldn`t watch any of those losers."
Lori from Florida says Rosie coming on will turn her off, "If big mouth Rosie gets a show, I will not be watching." Thank you, Lori.
And thank you for watching SHOWBIZ TONIGHT. I`m A.J. Hammer in New York.
ANDERSON: And I`m Brooke Anderson in Hollywood.
HAMMER: Now, live at 5:00 p.m. Eastern Monday through Friday.
ANDERSON: And don`t forget every night we are still TV`s most provocative entertainment news show at 11:00 p.m. Eastern and Pacific.
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