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Anger Over O`Reilly; The Ladies of "The View" Grill Levi; Bullying Bieber?; Kim Kardashian and Paris Hilton`s Stunning Confessions
Aired October 18, 2010 - 23:00 ET
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A.J. HAMMER, CO-HOST: Big news breaking today on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT - anger over O`Reilly. Joy Behar and Whoopi Goldberg return to "The View" today for the first time they walked off on Bill O`Reilly and get into an explosive face-off with Barbara Walters.
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JOY BEHAR, CO-HOST, "THE VIEW": We always speak about standing up to bigotry, so I stood up.
WHOOPI GOLDBERG, CO-HOST, "THE VIEW": As soon as I said the B-word, I knew to get up and leave.
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HAMMER: But wait, there`s more - the ladies face off with Levi Johnston. One order of Levi, please - grilled, to go.
Bullying Bieber? Disturbing new reports today that Justin Bieber may have been the target of antigay bullying. But could the confrontation actually get him arrested?
Kim Kardashian and Paris Hilton`s stunning confessions today. Kim K. says she`s too old to pose nude again. Paris says she done with partying. The SHOWBIZ Flashpoint, do you believe Paris and Kim?
ANNOUNCER: TV`s most provocative entertainment news show starts right now.
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HAMMER: Hello, I`m A.J. Hammer, coming to you from Hollywood.
BROOKE ANDERSON, CO-HOST: And I`m Brooke Anderson with big news breaking today - "The View" on O`Reilly.
A.J., the ladies of "The View" were back on live television responding for the first time today to the remarkable fallout from the walkout on Bill O`Reilly.
HAMMER: And let me tell you, Brooke, they did not disappoint one bit, not at all. In fact, to add to all the tension, a face-off today between two of the ladies and their boss, Barbara Walters. We`re going to show you today`s showdown in just a moment.
But first, let`s flash back to how it all began last week with Bill O`Reilly blaming the September 11 terror attacks on Muslims. Take a look at this.
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BILL O`REILLY, HOST, "THE O`REILLY FACTOR": Muslims didn`t kill us on 9/11? Is that what you`re saying?
GOLDBERG: Extremists did that. What religion was Mr. McVeigh?
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BEHAR: I don`t want to sit here right now. I don`t want to sit here.
O`REILLY: You`re outraged about Muslims killing us on 9/11?
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BARBARA WALTERS, EXECUTIVE PRODUCER AND CO-HOST, "THE VIEW": You have just seen what should not happen. We should be able to have discussions without washing our hands and screaming and walking off stage.
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HAMMER: And there, they just walked off. With me right now from New York, Sunny Hostin who is a legal contributor with "In Session" on our sister network, Tru TV. And with us in Hollywood, Jim Moret, who is the chief correspondent for "Inside Edition" and the author of a fantastic book called "Last Day of My Life."
We do have so much to show you. It really was incredible. You just saw Barbara Walters scolding the ladies about how they walked off the set of their own show. Well, today, Whoopi and Joy defended themselves in a big way and they explained why they walked off the set. Take a look.
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BEHAR: On this show, we always speak about standing up to bigotry, so I stood up.
GOLDBERG: I hit my saturation point, because what we didn`t show was, you know, when Mr. O`Reilly came out, he started with me as soon as he sat down, which he also did on Halloween. And I know he was invited here. I understand that.
But sometimes, you know, it`s enough for me and I`m not the greatest person in the world. I don`t walk on water, but I had enough. And as soon as I said the B-word, I knew to get up and leave.
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HAMMER: Well, I totally get where Barbara is coming from but Whoopi and Joy are grown women. Look, I think they handled it exactly how they wanted to handle it. And quite frankly, I`m just fine with it. Jim, are you satisfied with their explanation this morning as to why they walked off their own show?
JIM MORET, CHIEF CORRESPONDENT, "INSIDE EDITION": I am. First of all, welcome to Hollywood.
HAMMER: Good to be here in Hollywood.
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ANDERSON: We love having him here.
MORET: You know what? I think this is good news for O`Reilly and good for "The View."
HAMMER: That`s true.
MORET: We`re talking about something that we might otherwise have ignored totally because O`Reilly always needles these women - always. Look, he was out of line, I thought. I thought he was very condescending and I thought that Barbara - look, she didn`t need to dress them down again. She said something last week.
I thought it was a little bit over the top to say - again, to publicly dress them down. I was a bit taken back by that.
ANDERSON: Well, you know, I think that Whoopi and Joy made some solid points this morning in justifying why they did what they did walking off the set with O`Reilly. But, Sunny, I have to say that I agree with Barbara in the fact that we should be able to tolerate and respect one another even when we disagree.
SUNNY HOSTIN, LEGAL CONTRIBUTOR, "IN SESSION" ON TRU TV: Absolutely. I have to tell you I don`t think they made good points. As many of you know, I`ve worked with Bill O`Reilly. I used to do a segment with him every week called "Is It Legal?" And suffice it to say, our opinions often differed.
But he`s a man who respects opinion. And while he likes to needle, he will respect your opinion. And that show is called "The View" because they`re there to give their point of view. To walk away does not give their point view and allows him really to win the argument. And I don`t think that`s what that show is about.
I think that they really did the wrong thing by walking out. And I think it was up to Barbara Walters, as sort of the grand dame of television, to dress them down, not only on air, but again.
MORET: We`re talking about it now.
HAMMER: Yes.
HOSTIN: We are talking about it.
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HAMMER: And to your point, Sunny - to your point and as Jim alluded to, Barbara did not back down at all about why she felt Whoopi and Joy were wrong to walk off the set last week. And I`ve got to say, today, on "The View," it seemed like Barbara was doing it again, publicly scolding Whoopi and Joy for the way they handled the whole thing. Let`s look at that.
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WALTERS: You don`t walk out of your own home. You can walk out of somebody else`s home. You don`t walk out of your own home. And he was, as we said, someone we invited. We are used to Bill O`Reilly. He loves this. He loves to pull your chain. He loves to get you angry.
This is just what he wanted. I don`t have to tell you the regard that I have for you, the affection. I will fight for your right for anything. Having said that, I think it was the wrong thing to do.
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HAMMER: Yes. JIM, you called it a moment ago a dressing down. There was Barbara essentially scolding Joy and Oscar winner Whoopi Goldberg.
MORET: Did you see Whoopi`s reaction? She did not look happy at all.
HAMMER: I`d like to see the cameras after the show after today.
MORET: Oh, my god.
HAMMER: So not the right thing for Barbara to have done?
MORET: Well, you know what? It makes the show - remember when Rosie was on the show? What happened? We tuned in to see what`s going to happen next. And it`s becoming a "what`s going to happen next" on "The View" again. Maybe this is a good thing. We`re coming into sweeps again. Maybe I`m cynical. I think that this is good for "The View."
HAMMER: But they made the point - I want to bring up they made a point that none of this is staged and believe that.
HOSTIN: For ratings - yes.
HAMMER: I know these ladies well. They don`t put this on.
ANDERSON: They were genuinely passionate about their opinions and they do not do it for ratings.
MORET: I agree.
ANDERSON: And they said that is never the reason. I do think Barbara is the mother hen, in a way, and this is her show. She felt strongly about what she did and she wanted to express her opinions just like Whoopi and Joy.
MORET: And boy, did she.
ANDERSON: And boy, did she. Right. And interestingly, you bring up Rosie O`Donnell, Jim, because I`ve got to tell you the ladies who are currently co-hosting "The View" were not the only ones making some noise today about this whole smackdown.
Rosie O`Donnell, who quit "The View" after battling with Barbara, slammed Barbara on her Sirius Satellite radio show for the way that she handled things when O`Reilly first walked off set. Listen to this.
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ROSIE O`DONNELL, RADIO TALK SHOW HOST: It`s such a strange atmosphere over there at that show. I don`t think it can ever be articulated to anyone who has not experienced it. It`s such a strange atmosphere.
And the fact that, you know, Barbara Walters could feel that she should be able to scold the Oscar, Grammy, Emmy-award winning Whoopi Goldberg and, you know, the 60-year-old Joy Behar on TV is kind of strange.
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ANDERSON: OK, Sunny, granted Rosie has a different perspective than, say, we do because we`ve never been co-hosts on "The View," but the whole thing doesn`t seem strange to me when you consider that Barbara is their boss. She can essentially say whatever she wants.
HOSTIN: It`s her show. And I`ve got to tell you, it sounds a lot like sour grapes to me from Rosie O`Donnell. She walks off the show. She wanted to be the grand dame. That`s Barbara Walters` seat and she was dressed down many times.
I say it`s all sour grapes. I think Barbara Walters should have done what she did. She needs to school them on how to provide your point of view on "The View." She did the right thing.
HAMMER: All right. I do want to move from one grilling on "The View" today to another, and this was fantastic. The ladies collectively grilled Levi Johnston this morning. You`ve got to watch what happened when Barbara asked Levi about his plans to run for mayor of Wasilla, Alaska and why he thinks he would be a good mayor. Roll that.
WALTERS: You don`t think you need to have any experience?
LEVI JOHNSTON, FATHER OF BRISTOL PALIN`S SON: I believe you. I believe anybody - you`ve got to listen to the people. I feel like if I go around and talk to people, just like anybody else or any other mayor - I feel like maybe not now. I might not be ready, but a year from now, yes.
GOLDBERG: What is your platform? What can you do that no one else can do? Why should they vote for you as mayor?
JOHNSTON: At this point in time, I couldn`t tell you. It`s very -
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I said I was running for mayor, what, a month ago?
ELISABETH HASSELBECK, CO-HOST, "THE VIEW": You`re running right now? You`re still running in the ticket.
JOHNSTON: It`s just starting now.
SHERRI SHEPHERD, CO-HOST, "THE VIEW": Usually, when people say they`re running for mayor, they`ve thought about it before they actually run.
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HAMMER: All right. Here`s the thing. I think Levi fully succeeded in proving all of his critics right. This guy just seems lost. He was thrown into the world of being in front of the camera. Now, he`s trying to make something of it. But quite frankly, he doesn`t belong there.
And quickly, Jim, it looks to me like he`s just kind of making it up as he goes along.
MORET: Oh, it was horrible. It was horrible. He`s had a month - he`s had a month to think about his platform. If you said, "I`m running for mayor," you have a month to think about it. It was painful.
ANDERSON: But he`s has had enough time.
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HAMMER: But he`s showing his ignorance in that he doesn`t understand or seem to recognize that somebody who is well-qualified or has experience is better suited to help his town than he could. I`ve got to end it there. Jim Moret, Sunny Hostin, thank you both.
ANDERSON: All right. Bullying Bieber? Was Justin Bieber the victim of an awful attack? Startling new reports today that Justin Bieber may have been the target of antigay bullying. And is there a bizarre twice that could lead to Justin getting arrested?
Kim Kardashian and Paris Hilton`s dramatic confessions today. Kim K. says she`s done. She`s finished, vowing she will never posing nude again.
Meanwhile Kim`s fellow reality superstar, Paris Hilton, says she`s done with partying. Today`s SHOWBIZ Flashpoint - do you really believe Kim or Paris?
J-Woww smackdown. The "Jersey Shore" star goes from fist-pumping to fists of fury in the wrestling ring.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Go crawl back into that hole you came out of. This is our house (EXPLETIVE DELETED).
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Whoa!
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ANDERSON: Is this a Snooki wannabe? Oh, it`s on now. This is SHOWBIZ TONIGHT on HLN news and views.
HAMMER: It`s time now for the "SHOWBIZ News Ticker" - these are more stories from the SHOWBIZ TONIGHT newsroom making news today.
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BARBARA BILLINGSLEY, ACTRESS (as June Cleaver): Hi. Well, how do you do? Won`t you come in? I`m Mrs. Cleaver.
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ANDERSON: She was America`s iconic mother - Barbara Billingsley, who played June Cleaver in the classic TV sitcom which I loved, "Leave It to Beaver." Today, 53 years after the show first debuted, America is paying tribute to America`s mom who just died at the age of 94.
Welcome back to SHOWBIZ TONIGHT. I`m Brooke Anderson in Hollywood with A.J. Hammer here. It really is the end of an era today.
HAMMER: It is, Brooke, because Barbara Billingsley was not only America`s mother but she was also part of an iconic TV family that, to this day, really remains a symbol of America`s innocence and, quite frankly, innocence lost.
At the center of the family was, of course, the Beav, the kid who just couldn`t stay out of trouble and often had be to rescued by his brother, Wally. Jerry Mathers played the Beav.
Jerry joins us today in Hollywood. It really is terrific to see you. It`s been a long time. I`m sorry it`s under these circumstances, Jerry -
JERRY MATHERS, ACTOR: This is a - Saturday was a sad day. But Barbara was a lovely lady. And the people that watched her on the show knew her one way. But she was just as nice, if not nicer than what you saw on TV.
HAMMER: Jerry, I`ve got to tell you I was just astounded by the reaction to Barbara`s death. I was following it on the Internet. It was number one trending story. "Leave It to Beaver" ended in 1963. All these years later, why has her death struck such a chord?
MATHERS: Well, you know, it`s the longest running television show in history - scripted show. It`s been on the air now all these years. It ran all over the world. And I think people really grew up with the show, not just one generation, but several.
So we have fans and it`s still on the arrow so people are still watching it. And she`s just somebody that, when you see her, she was nicer than June Cleaver - Barbara Billingsley.
ANDERSON: Well, I love that you say that because she played June Cleaver to perfection, but you say she was like that in real life - kind, warm, patient, caring. She was the quintessential mother that all women aspire to be.
But, Jerry, we also got to know her from that movie "Airplane," when she really cracked us up as the woman who played the translator for the passenger speaking jive. Let`s watch a clip from that.
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BILLINGSLEY: Oh, stewardess, I speak jive.
UNIDENTIFIED ACTRESS: Oh, good.
BILLINGSLEY: He said that he`s in great pain and he wants to know if you can help him.
UNIDENTIFIED ACTRESS: All right. Would you tell him to just relax and I`ll be back as soon as I can with some medicine.
BILLINGSLEY: Just hang loose, blood. You`re going to catch up on the rebound.
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ANDERSON: OK. That was really so out of character compared to the June Cleaver image. But she knew how to laugh at herself, didn`t she?
MATHERS: A wonderful sense of humor. And she did know how to laugh at herself. And she would still do that when people would come up to her. I`d been with her many, many times and people come up and say, "Do you speak jive?" And she would go right into that line. And people go, "She really does."
ANDERSON: Oh, what a talent.
HAMMER: Do you still stay in touch with Tony Dow, who, of course, played Wally?
MATHERS: Definitely. He`s an artist. He just opened a piece about a year ago in the Louvre in Paris. He`s a sculptor. He`s, right now, back in Kansas City at an art show showing some of his art.
HAMMER: Have you spoken with him since her death?
MATHERS: Yes, I have. And we are just all saddened. We, in some way, knew it was coming. And it`s just a - it`s a dark day and we all feel very, very badly about it.
ANDERSON: What will her legacy be? Very quickly.
MATHERS: I think that what she was, not only for "Leave It to Beaver," but she was quite a philanthropist. In the Sta. Monica area, she was very involved in charities, always had been.
She was, you know, the perfect mom that no one could be like on the show, but she was very close to that. She was just such a lovely woman. And everyone will miss her so much.
ANDERSON: She will be missed for sure. Thank you, Jerry Mathers.
MATHERS: Thanks, Brooke. Thank you.
ANDERSON: All right. A.J., we are getting a lot of passionate calls and Facebook comments today about Joy Behar`s and Whoopi Goldberg`s dramatic walkout.
HAMMER: Yes. Joy and Whoopi, of course, stormed out the set in response to Bill O`Reilly controversial comments about Muslims and 9/11.
Now, Jan from Florida doesn`t agree with Joy and Whoopi`s decision to walk off the set, writing this, "Joy and Whoopi were unprofessional. Bill should have said `Muslim extremist,` not just Muslim. But Joy and Whoopi should stay on their seats."
Now, Hubertine called in to say, way to go, Joy and Whoopi.
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HUBERTINE, CALLER: I think they should have walked off of this show because they were so upset. It`s better to leave and calm down than to say something that will be very upsetting to everybody.
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HAMMER: Well said, Hubertine. Thanks for the call.
ANDERSON: All right. Let us know what`s on your mind. The "Showbiz on Call" phone lines are always open. The number is 1-888-SBT-BUZZ; 1-888- 728-2899. Leave a voicemail. We will play some of your calls right here on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT.
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Justin Bieber bullied? Dramatic reports the Bieb may have been bullied. Could a stunning new twist today get Justin in trouble with the law?
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Madonna, Lady Gaga. Who is the originator? Who`s the imitator? The stunning new video spoof today. This is SHOWBIZ TONIGHT on HLN news and views.
And now, the "SHOWBIZ News Ticker" - more stories from the SHOWBIZ TONIGHT newsroom making news today.
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ANDERSON: Breaking just today, Celine Dion rushed to the hospital. SHOWBIZ TONIGHT has learned today Celine checked into a hospital in West Palm Beach, Florida to prevent an early delivery of her twins.
As a precaution, Celine will stay on bed rest in the hospital on until those sweet babies are born.
Moving on, is Lady Gaga copying Madonna? I`m talking move to move, shocking costume for shocking costume. There is brand-new evidence today Lady Gaga might be a big old copycat.
Did you see this? It`s a monster mash-up that`s gone totally viral showing Lady Gaga is following in Madonna`s footsteps literally.
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ANDERSON: That`s pretty amazing. But the question remains, is Gaga a copycat?
HAMMER: All right. One of today`s hot topics over on the SHOWBIZ Facebook wall is Sarah Palin`s brand new reality show on TLC. It`s making its debut next month. Now, the show is all about the beauty of Alaska.
But Ladonna says this show is going to wind up being all about Sarah. She writes, "Haven`t the Palins gotten their 15 minutes of fame? Tell me when our 15 minutes of pain is over, please."
This is from Johnny L., "Sarah is going to make that show a hit, but only if her daughter is featured in it."
Join the debate on Facebook. Go behind the scenes of SHOWBIZ TONIGHT and get breaking news alerts on Twitter. You can always call us on "Showbiz on Call." And there`s E-mail as well. It`s "SHOWBIZ Connects" - you`ll find it at CNN.com/ShowbizTonight.
ANDERSON: All right. And now, the SHOWBIZ lineup - here`s what`s coming up at the bottom of the hour on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT.
Incredible new reports today that Justin Bieber may have been the target of antigay bullying. And is there a bizarre twist that could get the Bieb arrested?
Take a good look. This might be the last time you see Kim Kardashian like this appearing on the cover of "W" magazine. Kim K`s stunning confession today. She`s saying no to nakedness.
Maybe Paris Hilton should take an oath to keep her clothes on, saying that she is giving up partying.
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PARIS HILTON, REALITY TV STAR: And you know, when you`ve been going out for so long, it`s just - the scene gets old and I`m moving on with my life and on to bigger and better things.
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ANDERSON: Paris, right. This is SHOWBIZ TONIGHT on HLN news and views.
HAMMER: It is time now to roll out the "SHOWBIZ News Ticker." These are more stories from the SHOWBIZ TONIGHT newsroom making news today.
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HAMMER: Big news breaking today on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT - bullying Justin Bieber? Startling reports today that Justin Bieber may have been the target of antigay bullying. Could the fallout end up with Justin under arrest?
Two big stars, two stunning confessions today. Kim Kardashian says she`s too old to pose nude again. Paris Hilton says she is done with partying. Bold move, but to the SHOWBIZ Flashpoint - do you believe Paris and Kim?
J-Woww`s explosive new cat fight. The "Jersey Shore" star in an ugly beat down with a Snooki wannabe.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Go crawl back into that hole you came out of. This is our house (EXPLETIVE DELETED)!
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Whoa!
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HAMMER: Plus, breaking today from the "SHOWBIZ Ticker," Pauly D. disses Donald Trump? And an "Avatar" star`s new honor.
ANNOUNCER: TV`s most provocative entertainment news show continues right now.
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HAMMER: Welcome back to SHOWBIZ TONIGHT. It is 30 minutes past the hour. I`m A.J. Hammer coming to you from Hollywood.
ANDERSON: And I`m Brooke Anderson with big news breaking today - is Justin Bieber a victim of bullying?
HAMMER: Bullying Bieber. Yes, SHOWBIZ TONIGHT working really hard today to sort out exactly what happened. Justin Bieber`s bumpy weekend started off with a laser tag game in Canada and it ended with an investigation of Bieber`s hot new confrontation with a 12-year-old boy. But did the 12- year-old boy hurl a homophobic slur at Bieber?
SHOWBIZ TONIGHT`s Kareen Wynter joins us right now from the SHOWBIZ TONIGHT Hollywood newsroom with the very latest developments. Kareen?
KAREEN WYNTER, SHOWBIZ TONIGHT CORRESPONDENT: Well, A.J., the details behind what really happened between Bieber and the boy remain a little murky today. TMZ is reporting the 12-year-old claimed that he was hit by Bieber at the laser tag facility in Richmond, British Columbia.
Now, his father complained to police Sunday, launched the investigation. During their alleged confrontation, the 12-year-old reportedly called Bieber a homophobic slur. The Bieb reportedly told police that the boy stuck his hand out at ham and that he pushed it away.
Now, TMZ is reporting today that Bieber is now ready to lend his support to Hollywood`s big anti-bullying campaign, especially bullying targeted at gays. SHOWBIZ TONIGHT has reached out to Bieber`s reps and we have not heard back from them as of show time. A.J.?
HAMMER: All right. SHOWBIZ TONIGHT`s Kareen Wynter, thank you so much. Right now, in Atlanta is Jenn Hobby who is the co-host of radio`s "The Bert Show" on Z100 in Atlanta. And with us in Hollywood, Jim Moret, the chief correspondent for "Inside Edition." Jim is also the author of this book - it`s called, "The Last Day of My Life."
So there are some reports today that police are investigating Justin Bieber. He might even be charged with assault. At this point, as you`ve heard, we don`t know exactly what`s going to happen. But no matter what happened here, I think it is a terrific idea that Justin Bieber might join up with the anti-bullying campaign.
Of course, Ellen DeGeneres really kicked this thing off with a big celebrity push following the suicide of a gay teenager who was bullied.
Jenn, to you first. If Justin did join up with this campaign, I mean, this would be huge. He should absolutely do this, shouldn`t he?
JENN HOBBY, CO-HOST, "THE BERT SHOW" ON Z100: Absolutely. It`s a great idea, A.J. I mean, he`s known for his pop songs. He`s known for that haircut. And then, he could also be known for something a little bit more solid, you know, something he could stand on as a platform and stand up for kids his age going through this.
HAMMER: And this is so important particularly right now, Jim, given everything that`s going on. And Justin, if he speaks out, would be the first person in his age group to be a part of this sort of anti-bullying campaign. I think it will be huge.
MORET: You know, the time is right. Look, there`s so many kids who are dying because they`re the target of bullying. CNN had a - recently did an excellent special on this. You need someone of that generation to be the face of this issue. He`d be great for it.
HAMMER: Because that`s where it all starts.
MORET: It is where it all starts.
ANDERSON: And millions of people have Bieber fever. They love him. They respect him, so I think he could make an impact.
MORET: And Eminem recently also came out and he said he was the target of bullying when he was a kid. See, you`ve got the 30-somethings. You`ve got somebody 16. I think it would be great for Justin Bieber.
ANDERSON: The dialogue has begun, which is important.
HAMMER: Yes.
ANDERSON: Well, you know, the guy who broke the Bieber story is Canadian blogger, Zach Taylor. And this morning, on "Access Hollywood Live," he told Billy Bush that Bieber actually was not bullied. Watch.
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ZACH TAYLOR, CANADIAN BLOGGER: My sources are the staff that were working that night as well as the owner`s daughter. And they tell me 110 percent the kids were not yelling any homophobic slurs at Bieber. They were just shooting him with the gun. And he was just running through like any other kid playing laser tag.
BILLY BUSH, HOST, "ACCESS HOLLYWOOD LIVE": Wait. Did they know it was the Biebs? Did he have a mask on? Or was it like, "Bieber!" and everybody went crazy trying to get to Biebs?
TAYLOR: They didn`t know it was him inside the maze. But I think Bieber (UNINTELLIGIBLE) was like 10 bodyguards or something to protect him from the 12-year-old.
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ANDERSON: So according to this blogger, the kids didn`t even know it was Justin Bieber. He also claims that no one at the laser tag facility saw or heard the 12-year-old make that homophobic slur.
Jenn, Justin Bieber better get used to this kind of stuff, right? It goes with saying, doesn`t it, no matter what you do, you`re going to be closely watched.
HOBBY: Exactly. He`s not a normal kid anymore. And it sounds like he was just trying to be a teenager, go have some fun and be a boy and play laser tag. And this is what it turns in to. Hopefully, though, it can turn into something good and he can join this anti-bullying campaign.
ANDERSON: Yes, hopefully so. For a little guy, can`t even have an innocent game of laser tag.
HOBBY: Right.
ANDERSON: All right. I`ve got to move now to the outrage over Vince Vaughn`s use of the word "gay" in the trailer for his newest film. Vince is speaking out. But today, he`s getting slammed for what he said.
Also, Eminem and Rihanna are reportedly teaming up again for a sequel to their music video, "Love the Way You Lie." And Tyra Banks could be in a heap of legal trouble. It`s all making big news in "The Buzz" today.
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(voice-over) Tyra`s big trouble. Tyra Banks has just been slapped with a big lawsuit by a ballistic mom. A Georgia woman is demanding $3 million after her 15-year-old daughter appeared on Tyra`s talk show about teen sex ads without parental consent.
The "Atlanta Journal Constitution" reports the girl answered an online casting call and Tyra`s producers flew her from Georgia to New York and provided hotel lodging, all without her parents` permission. The mom also wants to prevent future airings of the episode.
Eminem`s huge Rihanna reunion. Rihanna and Eminem are making a sequel to their shocking monster hit duet, "Love the Way You Lie." "JustJared.com" is reporting the new song, "Love the Way You Lie, Part Two," will appear on Rihanna`s upcoming album, "Loud," which drops November 16.
Vince Vaughn blasted. Vaughn has just been slammed by the Gay and Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation for his statement defending controversial dialogue in his upcoming comedy, "The Dilemma."
Universal Studios yanked the trailer in which Vaughn`s character berates a car by calling it gay. And in a statement last week, Vaughn insisted, quote, "Comedy and joking about our differences breaks tension and brings us together."
GLAAD struck back on its Web site saying, quote, "Vince is right. Comedy does bring us together unless one of us is the punch line. Then it pushes us apart."
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ANDERSON: OK. Vince Vaughn also said in a statement to SHOWBIZ TONIGHT, "Drawing dividing lines over what we can and cannot joke about does exactly that. It divides us. Most importantly, where does it stop?"
It seems to me here that Vince is saying that we are in danger of becoming too politically correct in movies. Jim, does Vince have a point here?
MORET: Yes. Look, political correctness is a dangerous road. Once you go down it, you don`t know where to turn. But you look at certain films and the time they were made. "Blazing Saddles," 1974, extensive use of the N- word. You couldn`t make it today.
And you look at the time today. Gay rights, gay civil rights, getting married, being in the military, bullying - if this film were made two, three years ago, it may not be an issue, but it is an issue today.
ANDERSON: It is today.
MORET: So you know what? Maybe it`s just wrong, take it out of the film and just deal with it.
ANDERSON: Well, whether we agree or disagree with what Vince said, you know, I admire him, A.J., for taking a stand and speaking out at the risk of major backlash.
HAMMER: Yes.
ANDERSON: What do you think?
HAMMER: You know, I agree with you completely. And you know, you talk about the bullying, Jim, and the fact that, you know, this is a really tough time to be dealing with an issue like this because artistic expression is at risk here.
Movies are supposed to reflect what really goes on in real life. I agree it should have come out of the trailer and I`m happy that they pulled it out of the trailer. I think it would have been a mistake to keep it in there. But you know, it`s a tough thing, but I admire Vince a great deal for the fact he stood up.
ANDERSON: Yes. (UNINTELLIGIBLE).
HAMMER: Yes. Jim Moret, Jenn Hobby, thank you guys for with us today. I appreciate it.
ANDERSON: All right. You hear the words "catfight" and "Jersey Shore" in the same sentence, it`s a regular day at the shore, right? But today, J- Woww, has got herself into a major smackdown with a professional wrestler, and it`s not pretty.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Go crawl back into that hole you came out of. This is our house, (EXPLETIVE DELETED)!
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Whoa!
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ANDERSON: It`s the explosive J-Woww catfight with a Snooki wannabe.
Kim Kardashian`s new naked confession today. Who would think she will never pose nude again like she did here on the cover of "W" magazine, saying she`s just too old. Do you believe Kim?
And Paris Hilton has got a new confession of her own today - no more partying. Yes. Done. Over. See you later. In a brand-new interview today, Paris says she`s all about community service now.
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HILTON: And you know, when you`ve been going out for so long, it`s just - the scene gets old and I`m moving on with my life and on to bigger and better things.
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ANDERSON: Ah, yes. Got to love Paris. But do you believe her? This is SHOWBIZ TONIGHT on HLN news and views.
HAMMER: Let`s roll out the "SHOWBIZ News Ticker" - these are more stories from the SHOWBIZ TONIGHT newsroom making news today.
TEXT: "Jersey Shore`s" Pauly D. turns down offer to be on "Celebrity Apprentice." Justin Bieber movie poster for "Never Say Never" released via Twitter.
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HILTON: I realize there are a lot more important things in life and there`s a lot more things to do. And I`m frankly sick of it, and I`ve been going out for a long time now. And yes, it`s fun, but it`s not going to be the main stay of my life anymore.
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ANDERSON: That was Paris Hilton back in 2007 swearing off drugs and the partying lifestyle. Three years later, Paris is on probation for possession of cocaine and she is swearing off the partying lifestyle again. So the big question today is, do you believe her?
HAMMER: Do you believe her?
ANDERSON: Welcome back to SHOWBIZ TONIGHT. I`m Brooke Anderson in Hollywood with A.J. Hammer. It is time to play a fun round of "Do You Believe Her?"
HAMMER: "Do You Believe Her?" And we were talking about this, Brooke.
ANDERSON: I`m you ready?
HAMMER: This is unbelievable.
ANDERSON: No, no, no - actually.
HAMMER: Wait until you hear Paris` brand-new interview swearing off her partying ways again. But wait, that`s not the only contestant in today`s round of "Do You Believe Her?"
Kim Kardashian also in the running today because, today, she claims she is never going to pose naked again. Right.
Right now, from New York, Sunny Hostin from "In Session" on our sister network, Tru TV. And right now, in Chicago is Kelli Zink, host of "CelebTV.com."
All right. Let`s start off with Paris Hilton. There is a truly bizarre brand-new video on "Radar Online" today. Paris playing the part of good girl extraordinaire here. She standing in her new non-profit clothing store and she`s going on and on and on about her volunteer service work. And then, she drops this little gem - her party days are over. Watch.
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HILTON: I`ve just really been focusing on my work and my relationship and just being with my family, so I haven`t been out at all. It`s been completely different. I just have to get up so early for work.
And you know, when you`ve been going out for so long, it`s just - the scene gets old and I`m moving on with my life and on to bigger and better things.
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HAMMER: All right, Sunny. I`m going to start with you. Do you believe her?
HOSTIN: I don`t believe her. I just don`t. She said the same thing three years ago. And she was just partying, what, last month? So now, after they years, and now, this month, now she`s really, really, really tired of it. I don`t believe her. Not at all.
ANDERSON: Yes. And you know, I think Paris has her card stacked against her. I mean, we can`t forget she is an Aquarius. Watch what she told Larry King in 2007.
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HILTON: I just like to go out and have fun with my friends. I`m an Aquarius. We`re social people.
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ANDERSON: Kelli, how many times in our lives are we going to have to sit through Paris Hilton swearing off the partying? Do you believe her?
KELLI ZINK, HOST, "CELEBTV.COM": No way, Brooke. I mean, how many birthday parties does this girl have each year - six, seven? This is someone who is always going out, and that`s what she does well. She kind of brings fun. She`s the X factor in Vegas. I`ve club-hosted for her birthday.
People like to see Paris Hilton dancing on a table. Even if Paris swears off drinking, drugs - drugs that aren`t hers. Paris, just party. It`s what you do well.
HAMMER: You know what? Maybe - she mentioned Vegas. Maybe they need to be laying odds on this in Vegas. Somebody stands to make a lot of money. Paris says, "I`m not going to party anymore." What are the odds with this? I`m going to have to get with my bookie and check on that. I don`t have a bookie. I`m just kidding.
All right. Let`s move on to the next contestant. Will you join me in this, please?
ANDERSON: Let`s do it. "Do You Believe Her?"
HAMMER: "Do You Believe Her?" It`s good to be in together. Kim Kardashian says she`s never going to pose naked again. All right. Do you see what`s coming here?
Now, this is her last year on the cover of "Playboy." Let`s flip the pictures. And you see her on the brand-new cover of "W" magazine. And she`s all naked again. But, wait, today she says, "Hey, you know what? I`m getting a little too old for this." And she announced she`s never posing naked again. Sunny, do you believe her?
ANDERSON: Do you believe her?
HOSTIN: I don`t believe her. Oh, my god. I can`t contain myself on this one. First of all, 30 is not old in my opinion. But she`s got a porno movie that anyone can buy. So she`s already been seen naked in all her glory.
So why stop now? Why stop being nude? I don`t believe that she`s going to stop being nude. I think she likes being nude. Let`s make it clear.
ANDERSON: Well, listen to her reason. Listen to her reason here, Sunny. Kim told "Us Weekly" magazine, quote, "I don`t know if I`ll pose nude again. I`m too old for that now. I wanted to get it all out of my system before I turn 30."
Kelli, Kim turns 30 on Thursday. So do you believe her?
ZINK: Please. No, OK? The girl is going to have in, like two, three, five years, 35th - I want to show women that are over 30 that we should celebrate our bodies. Demi Moore did it. Heidi Klum does it.
Come on. Kim Kardashian is another one. Kim, you look great naked. You do it well. Take the money and keep posing naked.
HOSTIN: Exactly.
ZINK: There`s no way she`s done.
ANDERSON: All right. I`m not encouraging her to pose nude anymore, but my issue is more with her saying that 30 is old, A.J.
HAMMER: Yes. What`s up with that?
ANDERSON: I don`t know.
HOSTIN: That`s crazy.
HAMMER: Don`t they realize we actually hear this when they make these statements? We see it. We talk about it. I even write some of them myself. And we will hold them accountable because, quite frankly, that`s what we do.
ANDERSON: And we love playing the fun games of "Do You Believe Her?"
HAMMER: "Do You Believe Her?"
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Maybe this time. Let`s recap here. Paris, we don`t believe you. Kim, no.
ANDERSON: Kim, no. Sunny Hostin, Kelli Zink, thank you both. Good to see you, ladies.
All right. And now, we want to hear from you. We are asking in our exclusive SHOWBIZ TONIGHT poll today, "Paris Hilton says she`s done with partying: Do you believe her or not?" Keep voting at CNN.com/ShowbizTonight. E-mail us - showbiztonight@cnn.com.
HAMMER: J-Woww gets into the most explosive "Jersey Shore" catfight ever. This time, it is in front of a huge cheering crowd with a fake -
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Go crawl back into that hole you came out of. This is our house, (EXPLETIVE DELETED)!
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HAMMER: You might wonder and maybe right there with me - do you think J- Woww`s catfight has the real Snooki shaking in her pouf? This is SHOWBIZ TONIGHT on HLN news and views.
It is time now for the "SHOWBIZ News Ticker" - these are more stories from the SHOWBIZ TONIGHT newsroom making news today.
TEXT: "Avatar`s" Sam Worthington tops list of money earners under 40. Usher, Alicia Keys score our Soul Train Award nominations each.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: As far as I`m concerned, bro, "Jersey Shore" is done, my dude.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: No more of that disgraced Snooki. No more Situation and no more of that (EXPLETIVE DELETED) J-Cow.
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HAMMER: Wow! Or rather J-Woww. Did you see this? TNA wrestling stars Robbie E and Cookie talking major smack about our favorite party crew.
Well, what happened next wasn`t just fist-pumping. The fists were flying, I tell you, as J-Woww made her explosive pro-wrestling debut to show them how it`s done down the shore.
Well, with all the "Jersey Shore" smackdown on the show, it`s really not a huge shock to me that at least one of them would end up in the TNA ring. That`s exactly what happened when a Snooki wannabe - pouf and all - got all up in J-Woww`s face.
I tell you, this was a match-up for the ages. In this corner, big hair and too much make-up. In the other corner, big hair and too much make-up. It all adds up to an explosive battle that should have J-Woww`s cast mates keeping their distance for a long time. Take a look.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Did you say something? Oh, look who decided to show up! It`s that "Jersey Shore" poser, J-Cow. Get your fake (EXPLETIVE DELETED) weave, your fake nails and your very fake dollar store fun bag and go crawl back into that hole you came out of. This is our house, (EXPLETIVE DELETED)!
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Whoa! Snooki just slapped the hell out of J-Woww. I love it. "Jersey Shore" catfight.
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HAMMER: Quality entertainment, I tell you. So could J-Woww actually have a future in the ring? She looked pretty good there. She tells "Radar Online" she actually she loved it. And a rep from TNA told "Radar" they`d love to have her back.
ANDERSON: She`s pretty scary. All right. Love them or hate, "Jersey Shore" has become a national obsession. Even Barbara Walters thinks so.
On Friday, we asked to you vote in our SHOWBIZ TONIGHT exclusive polls, "Barbara Walters picks "Jersey Shore" cast as one of the most fascinating. Do you think they are fascinating?" Just moments ago, we got these final results. Twelve percent say yes; 88 percent say no way.
Here are some of the E-mail. Jay from Iowa, "I love those nutty kids down at the `Jersey Shore`! Sure, they like drinking and partying, but we all did when we were in our 20s."
Carol from Minnesota writes, "If `Jersey Shore` is indicative of what we find interesting, then we are in worse shape than I thought." I think Carol hits the nail on the head.
HAMMER: They are fascinating.
ANDERSON: They are?
HAMMER: Mortuaries are fascinating to some people. I mean, really, let`s put it in perspective.
ANDERSON: Good to have you here.
HAMMER: Nice to be here. Can I wrap it up?
ANDERSON: Yes.
HAMMER: Thanks for watching. That is it for SHOWBIZ TONIGHT. I`m A.J. Hammer.
ANDERSON: And I`m Brooke Anderson. SHOWBIZ TONIGHT is live at 5:00 p.m. Eastern Monday through Friday.
HAMMER: And we are still TV`s most provocative entertainment news show seven days a week at 11:00 p.m. Eastern and Pacific right here on HLN.
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