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Oprah`s Stunning New Confession; Jake Gyllenhaal and Taylor Swift`s Breakup; Ted Williams in Rehab; Camille Grammer`s Divorce Tell-All; Sting`s Sex Confessions; Nicole Kidman`s Shocking Botox Confession
Aired January 13, 2011 - 23:00 ET
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A.J. HAMMER, HOST: We`ve got big news breaking today on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT - - Oprah`s stunning new confession. CNN`s Piers Morgan -- things you have never heard Oprah talk about before, like Oprah`s biggest failure and why she once ate 30 pounds of mac and cheese.
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OPRAH WINFREY, MEDIA MOGUL: If I don`t come out of this, I`m going to have to get some help.
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HAMMER: Ted Williams in rehab. The homeless man with a golden voice checks in to deal with his alcohol and drug demons.
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TED WILLIAMS, FORMER RADIO ANNOUNCER: My drug of choice was crack.
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HAMMER: Our SHOWBIZ Flashpoint today, will Ted be able to get his life together?
Camille`s divorce tell-all. Camille Grammer right here with me today setting the record straight about her nasty split from Kelsey Grammer. It`s my headline-making interview you`ll see only on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT.
And Nicole`s startling about face today about her face. Nicole Kidman`s shocking Botox confession.
TV`s most provocative entertainment news show starts right now.
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Hello. I`m A.J. Hammer coming to you from New York City, with big news breaking today -- get it together.
You know, that was the message Dr. Phil had just this afternoon for the homeless man with the golden voice, Ted Williams. In just over a week, Williams as gone from the streets of Columbus, Ohio to overnight celebrity, and now, off to rehab.
Williams had portrayed himself as a down-and-out former radio guy who had managed to stay clean and sober for two years, even as he panhandled on the streets. But on "Dr. Phil Show," with his family, the estranged children, that was not the picture they painted.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Everything that came out of his mouth was a lie.
DR. PHIL MCGRAW, HOST, "DR. PHIL SHOW": Have you seen him drink?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes.
MCGRAW: What did he drink?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Gray goose.
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HAMMER: And today, Ted admitted to Dr. Phil that, yes, it`s true, he has been drinking again. And all those claims of being clean, not true.
I want to bring in HLN`s own Jane Velez-Mitchell, host of "ISSUES WITH JANE VELEZ-MITCHELL," right here on HLN.
Jane, does it surprise you at all that just after a week of finding fame, Ted was already spiraling out of control and now is in rehab?
JANE VELEZ-MITCHELL, HOST, "ISSUE WITH JANE VELEZ-MITCHELL": No, it doesn`t, A.J. I`m rooting for him. I wish him the best. But I was always kind of doubtful about his claim he was sober for two years.
Why? Because 12-step process involves making amends, a fancy way of saying apologizing. You apologize to your family. Yet, he was still estranged from his elderly mother and all of his kids. Why, if he had been working his program? I didn`t buy it.
HAMMER: All right. Megan Alexander, special correspondent for "Inside Edition," I want to bring you in on this. Does it surprise you at all?
Because look, a week ago, while we were all rooting for him, we were also sitting right here saying, oh, this might not go so well.
MEGAN ALEXANDER, SPECIAL CORRESPONDENT, "INSIDE EDITION": Exactly. And I think what is happening right now is the best turn, A.J., that this story could have taken.
Look, our Les Trent was in Ohio with him when all of this was going down and he was being discovered. But the minute he mentioned that he had addiction problems, that he had family issues in his past, I think people knew there was more to the story.
And it`s only continuing to come out now and it`s going to take a lot of time and a lot of hard work. But I`m telling you, if anything could have taken a turn here, Dr. Phil stepping in is pretty cool.
HAMMER: Yes. Well, it`s sort of ironic that the difficulties he`s now experiencing because of his sudden fame are in the end, hopefully, what will enable him to get the help that he actually needs.
And I have to tell you, it was an absolute showdown between Dr. Phil and Ted Williams today. Dr. Phil did not mince words.
Get rehab or else, is what Dr. Phil said and he asked Ted to leave his show with the president of a rehab clinic and begin treatment right away. Now, he had Ted squirming in his seat about that. You`ve got to watch how this all went down.
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MCGRAW: You have no fame. You have no fortune yet. But you are that close to getting a great opportunity here. Don`t blow it. You need to go from here. Go straight to rehab.
T. WILLIAMS: What is this? A reservation only? I`ve got to get in at a certain time or, you know -- you know, if I don`t go today, I can`t go tomorrow? You know, it`s that kind of feeling I`m getting. It`s like -- I feel pressured.
MCGRAW: You have the danger --
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HAMMER: Seems obvious to me Ted didn`t want to just pick up his things and go right off rehab. That brings us to our SHOWBIZ Flashpoint -- will Ted Williams be able to get his life together?
Jane, again, we`re rooting for the guy. What`s the reality here given everything that`s coming at him?
VELEZ-MITCHELL: Well, listening to him with Dr. Phil, I am very worried because he is clearly reluctant. He`s putting the brakes on saying, "Hey, I`m feeling pressured here." That`s not somebody who really wants to get sober.
They would be jumping at the chance to go to rehab. So that is a red flag. However, interventions do work for a reason. Sometimes, you can put somebody in a situation where the fog wears off and they realize, "Wow, there`s a reason I`m here."
I`m hoping that that people of clarity will occur when he`s in rehab. But right now, it has not occurred yet.
HAMMER: It`s not there.
VELEZ-MITCHELL: It`s not there.
HAMMER: No, that`s pretty clear. And when you look at everything, I mean, it is just remarkable that over the past few days, Ted Williams has, you know, gone from this golden announcer to tarnished alcoholic. All of the things people were saying were going to happen, they`re happening.
Well, this afternoon Ted was make excuses about how he needed to go back to Columbus, Ohio, because he needed to see his grand kids and his girlfriend before he could commit to getting into rehab. Dr. Phil did cut him a little bargain. Watch this.
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MCGRAW: I`ll tell you what let`s do --
T. WILLIAMS: Please.
MCGRAW: I`ve got Rich Whitman here, who is the director that was going to offer to escort you there. If you want to go to Columbus, we`ll just have him make a detour with you to Columbus. You can tell him where to stay there. And instead of going straight back there, he`ll go there and then he`ll just go with you from Columbus to there.
T. WILLIAMS: Now, that will be fine. I`ll get up and hug you for that.
MCGRAW: You like that idea?
T. WILLIAMS: Yes, sir.
MCGRAW: Are you going to drink up there?
T. WILLIAMS: No. I don`t plan to. I`m not taking this as a free ticket to drink.
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HAMMER: Well, it sounds like he`s willing to go along with Dr. Phil`s plan. And quite a deal that he cut there, Megan. But do you think he`s actually going to go along with it?
ALEXANDER: A.J., I`ve got to tell you, I like this part of the story even more than his golden voice when he was announcing. This is an opportunity for him.
And Dr. Phil is saying, "Deal with the junk in your life, and then can you get to the good stuff and really use your voice that God has given you. Don`t blow it."
And I just think so many people can relate to this moment. I have people in my life that have had addictions. You know, we have so many people that we know. What a chance to be sitting there with Dr. Phil and he`s saying, "Look, I want to guide you through this." I think everybody is rooting for Ted and hoping he will take that step.
HAMMER: Yes. I`ve got to tell you, a lot of people say lots of things about Dr. Phil, but he`s providing this guy with such an unbelievable, once-in-a-lifetime opportunity. We really are all pulling for him and hope he does seek the help that Dr. Phil is just handing to him.
Well, there`s also big addiction news we have to talk about today, about Charlie Sheen. And you won`t believe who is right in the middle of it -- Lindsay Lohan`s father Michael.
Today, we learned Michael Lohan has written an open letter to Sheen pleading with him, get help, acknowledge that you`ve got a problem. I want you to take a look at what he wrote.
This is Michael Lohan, "There is no cure for addiction where there is for other diseases. We can overcome it and control it like Lindsay has, but it`s up to you. Just look at the damage you`re causing, Charlie, not only to yourself but to others. Look at your beautiful kids, Denise, Brooke and your family.
Jane, I`ve got to say that while Michael`s message seems to be on point, the chances, in my mind, that Charlie is actually going to listen to Michael Lohan are both slim and none.
VELEZ-MITCHELL: Good luck with that.
HAMMER: Yes.
VELEZ-MITCHELL: Rehab after rehab didn`t work, but an open letter from Michael Lohan is? I don`t think so. But I do commend Michael Lohan for trying. He knows about addiction. He`s a recovering addict. He`s even done time in jail.
Obviously, he`s been through hell with his own daughter. And what he`s saying is, "Charlie, you`re putting people through hell." He has four young kids with two women. He has a father who is famous. He has a brother who is well-known.
He`s dragging everybody through the mud. And it`s about time he wakes up and realizes his track record of getting away with everything isn`t going to last forever.
HAMMER: It seems inevitable things are going to get very, very bad at some point. But what I like -- even though I recognize that Charlie`s not going to take this advice, Jane, is the fact that he even brought you into it.
Michael Lohan brings you into the mix here with some praise. This is terrific, my favorite part of the letter. Let`s put this up. "People I admire such as Jane Velez-Mitchell (in her book, `Addiction Nation`) and Dr. Drew shows so often on his show and interviews we live with the disease."
The problem between addiction and other diseases is the addiction is selfish. It`s a lie. And addiction takes other lives in so many ways." And it sounds to me like you think that perfectly describes Charlie, Jane.
VELEZ-MITCHELL: Yes. I have the dubious honor of being an expert in addiction, not because I want you, but because I am a recovering alcoholic. And all we have is today, any of us.
And I have to say that he did get it right because it doesn`t matter how rich, successful or famous or how you can memorize lines for "Two and a Half Men." Addiction hijacks the mind and turns you into zombie. And that`s what Charlie is right now. He`s a zombie, even if he doesn`t realize it.
HAMMER: Wouldn`t it be something it he took Michael Lohan`s advice and that`s what ended up working. Jane Velez-Mitchell, Megan Alexander, thank you both.
All right. As we move on, it`s Oprah stunning new confessions revealed today. I mean stunning, things you have never heard Oprah talk about before, like depression.
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WINFREY: I mean, literally, I will have to say, the only time in my life -- and I use all life experiences to teach me. The only time in my life I was ever depressed, and I recognized I am depressed --
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MADDOW: Oprah`s biggest failure and why she once ate 30 pounds of mac and cheese.
Camille`s divorce tell-all. Camille Grammer right here with me today setting the record straight about her nasty split from Kelsey Grammer. This is my headline-making interview you`ll see only on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT.
Also this --
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NICOLE "SNOOKI" POLIZZI, REALITY TV STAR, "JERSEY SHORE": So I`ve always said, you`re never too young to look great. But today, I have the gorgeous Jessica here, and she`s going to get Snooki-fied.
HAMMER: Yes. That`s Snooki making over an 11-year-old girl. This is so wrong in so many ways. This is SHOWBIZ TONIGHT on HLN news and views.
Time now for the "SHOWBIZ News Ticker" -- more stories from the SHOWBIZ TONIGHT newsroom making news tonight.
TEXT: Backstreet Boy A.J. McLean enters rehab for a third time. Taylor Swift debuts new music video for "Back to December."
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UNIDENTIFIED ACTRESS: Veronica, you look like hell.
UNIDENTIFIED ACTRESS: Yes, I just got back.
UNIDENTIFIED ACTRESS: Veronica, what are you doing?
UNIDENTIFIED ACTRESS: Heather, my love, there`s a new sheriff in town.
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HAMMER: I love that movie. That`s the final scene of one of the most talked about movies of all time, "Heathers." I`ve seen it like a dozen times. The movie was the "Mean Girls" of the 80s. You saw Shannen Doherty there. It also starred Winona Ryder with Christian Slater.
And for a while, there`s been talk of a "Heather" sequel. I would love that. But tonight, I can tell you if a sequel happens, it doesn`t look Shannen is going to be a part it.
SHOWBIZ TONIGHT breaking news right now. Listen to what Shannen just told us at the premiere of her new movie, "Burning Palms."
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SHANNEN DOHERTY, ACTRESS: I don`t know anything about it. I don`t really know that much about it. I think -- I`m worried about sequels to movies like "Heathers." "Heathers" is a cult classic and I think it should stay that and not be revamped or redone or another made.
I think it was amazing and it was amazing for that time period, and it can stay there. Yes, I mean, I`m very proud of that movie. So I kind of -- it makes me nervous to see something messed with again.
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HAMMER: All right. So Shannen says no, but Winona Ryder says yes. You know, Winona has even reportedly claimed a "Heathers" sequel is in the works. So all I can say is stay tuned.
Welcome back to SHOWBIZ TONIGHT . I`m A.J. Hammer in New York.
Lots of big news about stars in "The Buzz Today." Nicole Kidman`s stunning about-face confession about her face. A shocking "Glee" apology today from one of the best-known cast members. And Lady Gaga, whoa, is she super rich. It`s all making big news in "The Buzz Today."
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(voice-over) Gaga`s monster millions. Lady Gaga is getting ready for a ginormous paycheck. "Forbes" has just predicted she`ll more than double her earnings from last year and rake in more than $100 million this year.
That will make her the highest-earning act in the world in 2011. She`s expected to beat out U2 for the top spot. Gaga`s cash is expected to come from stadium touring and her brand-new album which is expected in May.
Lea Michele`s true grit apology. Hailee Steinfeld has just gotten a huge apology from "Glee`s" Lea Michele. Lea is saying she didn`t mean to snub the 14-year-old "True Grit" star and huge "Glee" fan when Steinfeld was begging for an autograph on the Paramount lot.
Lea has just released a major mea culpa saying, "I heard Hailee was upset and feel terrible. I never meant who hurt her feelings. She`s an extraordinary talent and I look forward to meeting her one day." Lea blamed the diss on a packed "Glee" schedule and an assistant who pulled her away.
Nicole big Botox about face. Nicole Kidman has just confessed to using Botox on her famously wrinkle-free face. After denying for years that she`d ever touched the stuff, she made a startling admission to a German magazine in a brand-new interview.
When asked her about secret to staying wrinkle free at 43, Nicole said, "I tried a lot of things. I even tried Botox." But Kidman says those days are over, "I didn`t like how my face looked afterward. Now, I don`t use it anymore and I can move my forehead again."
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Nicole Kidman`s shocking Botox revelation has a lot of people buzzing today, including the magnificent Suzanne Somers who says she has unlocked the key to being sexy forever. That`s the name of her 20th book.
So when Suzanne dropped by SHOWBIZ TONIGHT, I had to get her take on Kidman`s Botox bombshell. And Suzanne claims all that Botox and even plastic surgery is soon going to be a thing of the past.
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(on camera) A lot of people want a short cut to looking so young. What is your take on people doing things like Botox or other artificial methods to try to stay youthful?
SUZANNE SOMERS, ACTRESS: You know, as long as you do everything in moderation, you don`t go overboard, you don`t, you know, turn your lips into guppy lips -- I mean, a little zip or a little zap, that is not a big deal.
I guess as long as it`s safe and -- but she`s on track. She knows. She`s eating right. She`s going to need hormones soon. She`ll probably call me.
I get calls from people and I always -- whenever -- it will be somebody I don`t know or haven`t meant and I always say, oh, they must need hormones.
HAMMER: Well, you`re hearing from celebrities. Sometimes, the big names are getting into --
SOMERS: Yes. Celebrities -- right, right, right, right.
HAMMER: Suzanne, could you let me know exactly how I really should be going about this?
SOMERS: Right. Right. I remember and she doesn`t mind me talking about this because -- but Rosie O`Donnell -- I called her after she had her little melt down on "The View." And I said, "Rosie, I think we should talk."
HAMMER: A little imbalance there we need to discuss.
SOMERS: And she always gives me credit for how great she feels, because it puts you back in you and then you can just be this ageless thing.
And then, if you want to -- I don`t think people are having plastic surgery anymore, because I think that`s of the last generation. The future is coming and it`s really quite exciting. And the old way of cutting and pulling I don`t think is going to be the way it`s done.
HAMMER: Well, and the cool thing is we know we can count on you to give us the real information, because you actually go out there --
SOMERS: I`ll be there.
HAMMER: And talk to the doctors and do the research --
SOMERS: I do.
HAMMER: Which I always appreciate.
SOMERS: Chrissy Snow.
HAMMER: Yes. Who knew?
SOMERS: Who knew?
HAMMER: Who knew?
SOMERS: Who knew?
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HAMMER: Well, apparently, she knew. You`ve got to hear what Suzanne Somers, who I loved as Chrissy Snow on "Three`s Company," has to say about everyone from Angelina Jolie to Helen Mirren.
Suzanne reveals what she thinks makes some of the sexiest women in Hollywood so sexy and she gives her advice on what will keep them staying sexy forever. Do not miss my full blockbuster interview with the great Suzanne Somers Friday right here on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT.
So we`re about to name the most provocative celebrity of the week. Good nominees this week -- the man with the golden, of course, Ted Williams, his super quick rise to fame, his fight with his daughter and, now, he`s in rehab.
Charlie Sheen for his latest reported porn star and booze bender. Or will it be Camille Grammer, revealing shocking new details about her split from Kelsey Grammer? And Camille is right here with me today. That is coming up.
But who do you think it should be? I`d like to you text me right now at 45688. Text SBT1 for Ted Williams; SBT2 for Camille Grammer; SBT3 for Charlie Sheen. You can also vote on our Facebook page. ShowbizTonightHLN is where you find that. We will reveal who we name and see if you agree with us with your pick on Friday.
Oprah is making some provocative, stunning confessions, things you have never heard Oprah talk about before today, including her depression.
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WINFREY: And literally I will have to say the only time in my life -- and I use all life experiences to teach me. The only time in my life I was ever depressed and I recognized I am depressed --
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HAMMER: Oprah`s biggest failure and why she once ate 30 pounds of mac and cheese.
The unbelievable details of Jake and Taylor`s breakup today. Who dumped who? I`ve got to tell you I`m speechless by how all this allegedly went down.
And Sting`s jaw-dropping sex confessions about what happens in the bedroom with his wife. This is SHOWBIZ TONIGHT on HLN news and views.
And now, the "SHOWBIZ News Ticker" -- it`s more stories from the SHOWBIZ TONIGHT newsroom making news today.
TEXT: Tyler Perry earns the most NAACP Image Awards nominations with 19 nods. First look: Rooney Mara`s transformation in "Girl with the Dragon Tattoo."
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HAMMER: Today, it is Swift`s split secrets revealed. A brand-new report reveals the stunning details behind Taylor Swift and Jake Gyllenhaal`s breakup. Taylor and Jake were just inseparable during their two-month romance.
But today, we`re hearing it was Jake who broke Taylor`s heart and you won`t believe how he did it.
I want to bring in Melanie Bromley from Hollywood. She`s the west coast bureau chief for "Us Weekly." And in the brand-new issue of "Us Weekly," there are all the details about Taylor and Jake`s recent split.
Today "Us Weekly" is reporting Jake called it quits with Taylor, get this, over the phone. I got to tell you, I`m just floored by that. I guest they`re both pretty busy people though. Melanie, could this really be true, a phone breakup? That`s not cool.
MELANIE BROMLEY, WEST COAST BUREAU CHIEF, "US WEEKLY": It is true and I feel so sorry for her, because, of course, Joe Jonas also broke up with Taylor in a 27-second phone call. We know that.
But the thing is that Taylor falls hard. She really likes Jake, but their schedules are so different. And I think that was probably really the only way that he could break up with her and he just didn`t want to be with her anymore.
HAMMER: Well, I guess it`s better than a Post-It note. But based on your report, Melanie, Taylor was totally blindsided by the fact that he split up with her. Did you get a sense of why things didn`t work out, perhaps other than their very busy, different schedules?
BROMLEY: Of course, the different schedules, but also anyone that Taylor dates tends to have a certain amount of media attention that they weren`t necessarily used to.
And obviously, Jake has dated Reese Witherspoon before. But he`d been single for a little while. And being with Taylor meant that he was followed by the paparazzi in a way that he hadn`t experienced for a while, so that was one thing.
The other thing is it became serious very, very fast and he wasn`t ready for that. And so that was another reason why he broke up with her. They just were not compatible. And there was a nine-year age difference, so that also meant that there were differences in the relationship and he decided he didn`t want to be with her anymore.
HAMMER: Yes. I can certainly understand as far as the media attention, but I certainly would also feel that Jake Gyllenhaal, of all people, particularly having been with Reese Witherspoon, would certainly know what was coming down the line.
SHOWBIZ TONIGHT reached out to Taylor and Jake`s people about this report, but as of show time, we did not hear back. Melanie Bromley, I thank you very much for being here.
It is time now for the SHOWBIZ lineup -- here`s what`s coming up at the bottom of the hour on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT.
Oprah`s stunning new confessions. Things you have never heard Oprah talk about before, like her biggest failure and why she`s once ate 30 pounds of mac and cheese.
Camille`s divorce tell-all. Camille Grammer right here with me today setting the record straight about her nasty split from Kelsey Grammer
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SNOOKI: I`ve always said you`re never too young to look banging. But today, I have gorgeous Jessica here and she`s going to get Snooki-fied.
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HAMMER: Good. Snooki-fied. Yes. I`ve got a problem with this. This girl is just 11 years old. Snooki-fied? I don`t think so. This is SHOWBIZ TONIGHT on HLN news and views.
Time now for the "SHOWBIZ News Ticker" -- more stories from the SHOWBIZ TONIGHT newsroom making news today.
TEXT: Drew Barrymore to produce "Charlie`s Angels" pilot for ABC. Justin Bieber and Zac Efron announced as Golden Globes presenters.
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WINFREY: Literally, I would have to say the only time in my life -- and I use all life experiences to teach me. The only time in my life I was ever depressed and I recognized I am depressed --
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HAMMER: Big news breaking today on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT -- Oprah`s stunning new confessions to CNN`s Piers Morgan. Oprah`s biggest failure, her startling battle with depression and why she once ate 30 pounds of mac and cheese.
Sting`s sex confessions. The jaw-dropping details about what Sting likes do in the bedroom with his wife.
Camille`s divorce tell-all. Grammer joins me today to set the record straight about her nasty split from Kelsey.
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CAMILLE GRAMMER, KELSEY GRAMMER`S ESTRANGED WIFE: He moved another woman into our apartment in New York and got her pregnant before, you know, I knew anything.
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HAMMER: It`s the headline-making interview you`ll see only on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT.
Plus, breaking today from the "SHOWBIZ News Ticker," Eminem, Lady Gaga and Katy Perry team up. And the brand-new "Teen Mom 2" shocker.
ANNOUNCER: TV`s most provocative entertainment news show continues right now.
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HAMMER: Welcome back to SHOWBIZ TONIGHT. It is 30 minutes past the hour. I`m A.J. Hammer coming to you from New York City with big news breaking today -- Oprah`s mac and cheese meltdown.
Piers Morgan just scored a major coup by getting Oprah Winfrey as his very first guest for his new CNN show. It debuts on Monday. Today, I can tell you Piers got Oprah to say things she`s never told anyone, ever, until now.
Oprah makes a bombshell revelation to Piers about her depression after her biggest failure of her career. Oprah herself calls her interview with Piers one of the toughest she`s ever done. And I`ve got to tell you when you hear what she confesses to Piers, you`ll know why.
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PIERS MORGAN, HOST, "PIERS MORGAN TONIGHT": What was the worst turkey you`ve had?
WINFREY: The worst -- I don`t want to call it a turkey, but it didn`t work and it sent me into a massive, depressive, macaroni-and-cheese-eating tailspin, literally.
When I did the movie "Beloved," which I have -- I had and still have such passion for, 1998. I didn`t -- you know, I`m not in the movie business. I did this movie because I was passionate about it.
And I didn`t know that you had that weekend and that is it. So I am thinking that if people don`t go this week, they`ll go next week.
And so, that morning it premiered on a Friday night and I remember Saturday morning hearing that we got beat by something called "Chucky." And I didn`t know what "Chucky" was.
And everybody was like, "Well, now, this is in the box office. It wasn`t what it`s supposed to be." And they were already predicting what the weekend was going to be and it`s just Saturday morning. And I asked my chef at the time, "Make some macaroni and cheese." And I really, literally, went into a tailspin with it.
MORGAN: How much macaroni did you eat?
WINFREY: Oh, I ate about 30 pounds worth. I`m not kidding.
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HAMMER: At first, when I saw that, I thought, well, maybe she`s just joking around, but maybe not. Now, Oprah, of course, usually the one getting the stars to make these kinds of explosive revelations.
But hearing Oprah`s mac-and-cheese confession is so raw and it`s so really candid. I just think it`s remarkable.
Celebrity publicist Marvet Britto is here with me now. Marvet, are you stunned that Oprah is now making these Oprah-like confessions to Piers Morgan?
MARVET BRITTO, CELEBRITY PUBLICIST: Not at all. The core values of Oprah`s brand have been built on the intimate, inside lens that she allows her viewers to have on the revelations of her life.
I`m not surprised that she shared some really intimate details on a very difficult journey of her life, that of depression and that of a failure, which, you know, we all experience to varying degrees in our lives.
HAMMER: But she`s kept a lot of this to herself until now. Robi Ludwig is here. Robi is a psychotherapist. Oprah can laugh about this now.
ROBI LUDWIG, PSYCHOTHERAPIST: Yes.
HAMMER: And I`m sure it`s great for her to look back and she learns from her failures and her mistakes. She`s always said that. But can you ever imagine Oprah being so depressed she would melt down over something like "Beloved" not doing the way she wanted?
LUDWIG: Absolutely. And I think this is why people love Oprah, because she admits to putting her heart and soul into something and it not working out and having a very normal, human reaction.
Just because Oprah is a huge success doesn`t mean she`s not a human being. It doesn`t mean she doesn`t experience the range of emotions that we all experience, maybe even more so.
HAMMER: Yes. Well, she`s certainly probably as big a success as she is because of the way she takes things that didn`t go so well and turns them into something that is very successful.
LUDWIG: That`s right. That`s right.
HAMMER: Oprah goes on to reveal to Piers Morgan how she had an "aha moment" as she dealt with the deep, dark depression that threatened to cripple her. Watch this.
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WINFREY: The only time in my life -- and I use all life experiences to teach me. The only time in my life I was ever depressed and I recognized I am depressed because I`ve done enough shows. Oh, this is what those people must feel like, who have been depressed.
And I recognized, oh, if I don`t come out of this, I`m going to have to get some help. Then I thought, well, who am I going to go to?
And I tried -- I literally prayed my way through it and gave myself a time limit that if I`m not better, and I don`t mean just I`m feeling blue. I literally went into that -- where you feel like you`re behind a veil
MORGAN: What did you learn from failure? Because you must experience it so infrequently. What did it teach you?
WINFREY: Well, I think you can experience it infrequently if you learn from the lesson, if you get the lesson, you know. I think the way life is set up for most people who have the opportunity to succeed is that if you get the lesson, you don`t have to repeat that again.
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HAMMER: What we were talking about a moment ago, Robi. But do you think that perhaps Oprah made a big mistake by kind of not practicing what she preaches and not going out there and getting the help?
LUDWIG: Well, it sounds like she had an awareness. She was depressed and she was kind of observing if it went on too long, then this is something she could not do on her own.
So it sounds like whatever time limit she gave herself, she was able to work whatever it was through. And she was having a reactive depression.
The type of depression she was talking about is where you don`t see the light at the end of the tunnel, that you really feel hopeless. So the upside is she was very aware of what was going on and she did set a time limit.
HAMMER: And part of it, to me, that struck me was, you know, she didn`t know "Who the heck am I going to go to?" (INAUIDIBLE) Like, "I`m Oprah Winfrey. Who do I go to try to get help?"
LUDWIG: You go to a well-trained professional who can help you deal with your problems --
HAMMER: Yes. I think --
LUDWIG: Because they`re certainly out there. And I think that`s also a sign of depression, because when you`re depressed, you almost feel like no one can really help you.
HAMMER: Certainly, you can feel lost.
LUDWIG: Yes.
HAMMER: I can`t wait to see what else Oprah reveals to Piers Morgan. And the wait is almost over. "PIERS MORGAN TONIGHT" debuts on CNN 9:00 p.m. Eastern Monday. Can`t wait for that.
But we move now from Oprah food confession to Sting`s sex confessions. Just in today, Sting reveals he likes to have steamy, tawdry sex with, fortunately, his wife.
Sting and Trudy Styler have been married for 18 years now. They leave little to the imagination in a racy new photo spread and interview in this, the February issue of "Harper`s Bazaar."
One of Stings sex secrets -- forget about the romance, it`s all about the heat. He says, "Romantic? We like tawdry. I don`t think pedestrian sex is very interesting. I like the theater of sex. I like her to dress up. I like to dress her up."
Now, Sting and Trudy have been together for a long time, so I guess the tawdry sex is working for them. But Marvet, are Sting`s confessions hot? Should we be excited by all of this? Or is it a little too much information? I wonder when they confess so much.
BRITTO: I actually think we should be excited by it. In the age of failed marriages and infidelity, here is a rock star in the height of his career celebrating and really adoring his wife in such a loving, intimate way.
I think it sends a great message that there are some that are still happy, people who are at the heights of their career who are really adoring their wives and showing it.
You know, he isn`t afraid to express it and he let really the photographs speak for the love that he has for her. I think it`s brilliant.
HAMMER: And he spoke about relationships. And I think this is terrific. He says, "Relationships aren`t easy and I don`t think they`re particularly natural, but we`re lucky because we actually like each other. Trudy lights my world up with when she comes into a room. I don`t take her for granted."
After 18 years of marriage and 30 years together, I`ve got to say, Marvet, that is quite a statement. Maybe he should ditch the whole rock star thing and give out relationship advice to Hollywood stars.
BRITTO: I don`t think so. I think it just adds another layer to his brand. That`s what makes Sting sexy. Look at Mick Jagger and all the other rock stars.
LUDWIG: Yes.
BRITTO: It`s the element of love and celebration and not being afraid to be in a relationship and sexy.
HAMMER: Pretty neat and sexy and inspirational.
BRITTO: Yes.
HAMMER: All right. Robi Ludwig, Marvet Britto, I thank you both.
Moving on to Camille`s divorce tell-all. Wait until you hear this. Camille Grammer is right here with me today. Kelsey`s soon-to-be ex is setting the record straight about their nasty split.
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C. GRAMMER: He moved another woman into our apartment in New York and got her pregnant before, you know, I knew anything.
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HAMMER: It`s the headline-making interview you`ll see only right here on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT.
Tony Parker, Eva Longoria. Tony reveals for the first time how he`s coping with their dramatic split.
And you won`t believe what Snooki did now. Snooks gives an 11-year- old a "Jersey Shore" style makeover. Watch.
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POLIZZI: I`ve always said you`re never too young to look banging. So today, I have the gorgeous Jessica here and she`s going to get Snooki-fied.
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HAMMER: Can I just say it? That is just so wrong. This is SHOWBIZ TONIGHT on HLN news and views.
Time now for the "SHOWBIZ News Ticker" -- these are more stories from the SHOWBIZ TONIGHT newsroom making news today.
TEXT: Eminem, Lady Gaga, Katy Perry among the performers at this year`s Grammy Awards. Ricky Gervais tells Ellen how he plans to make this year`s Golden Globes fun.
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ELLEN DEGENERES, HOST, "THE ELLEN DEGENERES SHOW": Who are you going to go after?
RICKY GERVAIS, COMEDIAN: Well, Charlie Sheen has obviously put his ahead above. So yes, like last year, Mel Gibson was a gift from the comedy god. So, yes, that would be good. That would be good -- two people in the audience, you know, Mel Gibson, Charlie Sheen.
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C. GRAMMER: My husband told me that he was done with our marriage.
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HAMMER: That`s Camille Grammer in "The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills" confessing that her 13-year marriage to Kelsey Grammer is over.
Welcome back to SHOWBIZ TONIGHT. I`m A.J. Hammer in New York. Today, it`s Camille`s confession. It`s a brand-new SHOWBIZ newsmaker interview with Camille Grammer today.
Before starring in the reality show, "The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills," Camille was perhaps best known for being the wife of "Frasier" star, Kelsey Grammer. But over the summer, her 13-year marriage to Kelsey unraveled.
Camille is right now to set the record straight about all the news she`s been making. And Camille, I do appreciate you being here.
And wow, it seems like all day long there has been a ton of news breaking about you. I want to get to some of it right now, right off the bat here.
Just this afternoon TMZ is reporting that you asked the judge in your divorce case to reject Kelsey`s request to get a quickie divorce. Can you set the record straight on what the truth is there?
C. GRAMMER: Oh, I probably can`t on that one. That`s probably something my legal team does not want me to talk about.
HAMMER: That`s fair enough. The report also did go on to say, though, that you think that Kelsey wants to move things along because he wants to quickly get married to his 29-year-old fiancee. Do you believe that?
C. GRAMMER: This is true. I do believe that. That is true.
HAMMER: So Kelsey`s now engaged to this 29-year-old woman. There`s really no delicate way to say this. After your 13 years of marriage, you basically got dumped. And from what we were talking about a little earlier, you were blindsided by this. Do you hate him?
C. GRAMMER: You know what, I don`t hate him. You know, we had a good run. We were together for 14 years. You know, I respect his talent. I don`t like how he did it. You know, I just think that the way -- it just could have been a lot better.
We could have talked through this and maybe make it work for our kids. So you know, I was disappointed he didn`t give us a chance.
HAMMER: Yes. And as I understand, out of nowhere, you get a phone call from him.
C. GRAMMER: I got a phone call from a mutual friend saying something was going to happen. She had heard that, you know, he wasn`t happy and he was possibly leaving the marriage.
So I called him and texted him several times. And finally, a few hours later, he called me and told me he just didn`t want to be married any longer.
HAMMER: I can`t imagine what it was like getting that news, and then having to continue on your reality show, trying to put on a brave face.
What about the reports that you`re demanding $50 million from Kelsey? Because quite frankly, Camille, there a lot of people out there seeing what you`ve gone through thinking she got to stick it to that guy. And that would be great if she would walk away with $15 million. Any truth to that?
C. GRAMMER: I think a lot of those reports -- some of those reports are exaggerated numbers, honestly. You know, it`s not all liquid. Some real estate is involved. I can`t really get in too much of it. But you know, I will be comfortable, I can say that.
HAMMER: Do you feel, though, you know, as I`m saying --
C. GRAMMER: It still hurts. It doesn`t take the pain away.
HAMMER: Of course not. But do you feel, as I know some people do when they are going through a divorce, "Yes, I kind of do want to stick it to him a little bit?" And quite frankly -- no. Let`s be honest. This is what go through.
C. GRAMMER: To be honest, yes, of course. I mean, you know, he moved another woman into our apartment in New York and got her pregnant before, you know, I knew anything. And then, I filed after that.
HAMMER: You`ve said that it was Kelsey who wanted to you do "The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills," which I think a lot of people were surprised by.
C. GRAMMER: Yes. Shocking, but true.
HAMMER: You said that he actually pushed to you do it. Do you think that maybe this was a way that he could, I don`t know, somehow distract you or sort of keep you from becoming aware that he was having an affair?
C. GRAMMER: Well, you know, after I started filming the show and, obviously, I found out that he was leaving, I thought maybe that was part of the plan. I don`t know.
You know, I don`t want to put words in his mouth and I don`t want speak on behalf of my husband. But of course, one would think that. Of course, I think that.
HAMMER: Was there a time -- I know we`ve mentioned it. You were blindsided by it. But was there a time prior to getting the news by your friend or getting tipped off by your friend that you thought something isn`t right here?
C. GRAMMER: Well, you know, Kelsey`s the type of guy that used to call me at least 10 times a day. He was a very doting, very loving husband. And he started pulling back. And he started becoming more distant.
So I knew then something was happening. But this was, you know, right after he left, you know, at the end of February.
You know, I was on Christmas vacation, you know, a few weeks ago. Two friends of mine that don`t know each other came to me and told me that Kelsey already told them last Christmas vacation that he was planning on leaving me.
HAMMER: No kidding.
C. GRAMMER: So -- and this was before I got the offer to do "Housewives."
HAMMER: So the pain just continues. That`s unfortunate. I`m sorry to hear that.
C. GRAMMER: It`s harsh. It`s harsh.
HAMMER: I do want to get some more news that`s out there that you`re kind of making today, because it`s been all over TV today that, in an interview, you insinuated that Kelsey likes to wear women`s clothes, that he`s a cross dresser. Could you please set the record straight for me on that?
C. GRAMMER: Well, you know what? We were talking basically about the play (INAUIDIBLE). And as soon as he got the offer I go, "God, this is such a great role for him." I just knew it would be a perfect role for him.
And then, one thing led to another. And then, all of a sudden, Howard and Robin and I were talking about it and making fun, making a joke of it. But you know --
HAMMER: This was on "The Howard Stern Show."
C. GRAMMER: This is, of course, on "The Howard Stern Show." I`m not going to say that about my husband, you know. I can`t say that about him.
HAMMER: OK. It`s fair enough. Do you regret the whole conversation coming up?
C. GRAMMER: No, I think it was funny. You know, we were laughing about it. And I was just blowing off some steam.
HAMMER: And you`re certainly entitled to.
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C. GRAMMER: I know. I`ve been through a tough year. This has been a tough year.
HAMMER: And another big news -- headline about you as the season is wrapping up of "The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills" is that you`re not returning to the show. Why are you leaving the show?
C. GRAMMER: Well, we`re discussing that. We`re in discussions right now. You know, the producers and I will discuss it and I`ll know more after the reunion show.
HAMMER: So you`re not saying officially yet that you`re not coming back. I don`t know why you would, quite frankly given --
C. GRAMMER: I have to agree with you on that.
HAMMER: Well, listen, we wish you only the best.
C. GRAMMER: Thanks, A.J.
HAMMER: It has to have been an impossible time going through what you`re going through in the public eye. And I do appreciate you coming in. Camille Grammer, thanks so much.
C. GRAMMER: Thank you for having me. Thank you.
HAMMER: And you can catch Camille and the rest of the cast of "The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills" on Bravo.
This just in today, Eva Longoria`s soon-to-be ex-husband, Tony Parker, breaks his silence for the very first time about how he is handling their split.
In a brand-new interview with France`s "Le Parisien," Tony says his love for basketball is helping him cope with his heartbreaking split from Eva.
Parker, who of course plays for the San Antonio Spurs says, "I`ve taken refuge in basketball because that`s what I`ve done best since my youth."
Tony went on to say his family has been a huge source of support for him, "My whole family has been around me through this whole thing."
Well, Tony also says his teammates have been helping him cope with his split from Eva. Eva Longoria and Tony Parker announced they were divorcing two months ago.
Well, as we move on, you may not believe what Snooki just did. It`s the brand-new bombshell new Snooki video that has people pretty steamed with Snooki.
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POLIZZI: So I`ve always said you`re never too young to look banging. But today, I have the gorgeous Jessica here and she`s going to get Snooki-fied.
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HAMMER: Oh, I hope somebody will save this young girl from Snooki. She`s only 11. This is SHOWBIZ TONIGHT on HLN news and views.
It`s time for the "SHOWBIZ News Ticker" -- more stories from the SHOWBIZ TONIGHT newsroom making news today.
TEXT: "Teen Mom 2" debut gets 3.6 million viewers -- the highest ever for the MTV series. Tiger Woods, Lance Armstrong had the least effective commercials in 2010.
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HAMMER: Did you see this? It`s Natalie Portman`s brand-new topless Christian Dior ad. Portman is the new face for Dior perfumes and her first ad for the Miss Dior Cherie perfume -- well, it`s raising a bunch of eyebrows. Some people are saying Portman`s topless pose is tres provocative.
I don`t know. It looks tame to me. Portman is also generating a lot of buzz right now for her Golden Globe-nominated role in "Black Swan." And the money is on for the win.
From high fashion now to an absolutely low-brow and just all sorts of wrong Snooki makeover I`ve got to tell you about today.
Snooki performs a makeover on an 11-year-old girl. Oh, my. Snooki`s on this brand-new mission. She is taking extraordinary steps to get more people to look her -- orange skin, hair pouf and all.
I`ve got to tell you, I can`t believe this, but Snooks is doing these makeovers now. And, get this, Snooki`s first fashion victim is an 11-year- old girl.
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POLIZZI: I`ve always said you`re never too young to look banging. So today, I have the gorgeous Jessica here and she`s going to get Snooki-fied.
We`re going to start off with the bronzer. The bronzer is the closest thing to being a guidette. You don`t want to make yourself look too orange, but you want to look tan at the same time.
And then you want to add some blush. And then, the infamous smoky eye. Then, you have to put on the pink because boys like pink and pink looks good with tan skin.
And last but not least, the pouf. And now, the finishing touches on the pouf. You need a lot of hair spray. Ready? Hold your breath for like a minute.
Now, for the perfect Snooki look, you need animal prints. OK. So you`ve been Snooki-fied. You look fabulous and banging, and I love it.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Thanks.
POLIZZI: So here you go, America. You`ve got mini-Snooki.
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HAMMER: I don`t even know what to do with that. Snooki says she`s nobody`s role model, but Snooki-fying an 11-year-old? Snooki-fy somebody your own age, Snooki.
Let`s move on because we`re about to name the most provocative celebrity of the week. It`s not going to be Snooki, but here are your nominees. The man with the golden voice, Ted Williams. His super-quick rise to fame, his fight with his daughter. And now, he`s in rehab.
Will it be Charlie Sheen, his latest reported porn star and booze bender? Or maybe it will be Camille Grammer, revealing to me shocking details about her split from Kelsey Grammer.
Who do you think it should be? Text me right now, 45688. Text SBT1 for Ted Williams; SBT2 for Camille Grammer; SBT3 for Charlie Sheen.
You can also vote or our Facebook page -- that`s ShowbizTonightHLN. This is going to be a close race. We will reveal who we name and we`re going to see if you agree with us with your pick on Friday.
But for now, that is it for SHOWBIZ TONIGHT. Thanks for watching. I`m A.J. Hammer in New York. SHOWBIZ TONIGHT is live at 5:00 p.m. Eastern Monday through Friday.
And we`re still TV`s most provocative entertainment news show seven days a week at 11:00 p.m. Eastern and Pacific here on HLN.
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