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Casey Anthony`s Personal Hell; Chasing Casey Anthony; Does the Octumom Really Hate Babies?; Who Should Jennifer Lopez Date?; Bristol Palin`s Sex Confessions
Aired July 19, 2011 - 23:00 ET
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CARLOS DIAZ, GUEST HOST: Tonight, Casey Anthony. Is she now trapped in her own personal hell? Why she actually may have been better off in jail. I`m Carlos Diaz and this is SHOWBIZ TONIGHT.
More big Casey Anthony news breaking on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT. Tonight, chasing Casey. Brand-new clues revealed today of where Casey is hiding out.
Plus, a SHOWBIZ TONIGHT Casey Anthony exclusive. The bounty hunter who helped search for little Caylee and posted Casey`s bond is now suing Casey. But why? He is right here for a headline-making interview you`ll see only on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT.
Tonight, the Octomom caught on tape. Is this the proof that she did say she hates babies?
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NADYA SULEMAN, "OCTUMOM": I absolutely am disgusted by babies. I have to be honest, they make me sick. I couldn`t even imagine -- I don`t even look at them. I have to look the other way.
(END AUDIO CLIP)
DIAZ: Brand-new revelations today about Jennifer Lopez`s split from Marc Anthony. But who should she date next? And tonight`s SHOWBIZ Flashpoint, do you feel sorry for J-Lo?
TV`s most provocative entertainment news show breaks news right now.
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Hello, I`m Carlos Diaz, in for A.J. Hammer with big news breaking tonight -- chasing Casey.
Casey Anthony remains the invisible woman tonight hiding out somewhere. But for the first time, SHOWBIZ TONIGHT can tell you there were new dramatic clues today pointing to where she is.
And SHOWBIZ TONIGHT can tell you that there is now a long line of people trying to track her down so they can sue her, including bounty hunter Leonard Padilla, who posted her bond and was helping in the search for her two-year-old daughter, Caylee.
He was helping her. Leonard, the bounty hunter, will be joining us for a SHOWBIZ TONIGHT exclusive newsmaker interview.
So while Casey may have beaten the rap on charges she killed Caylee, SHOWBIZ TONIGHT can also tell you that Casey may now be trapped in her own personal hell.
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(voice-over) She may be out of jail but Casey Anthony is anything but free. Today, with the former murder suspect in hiding somewhere here, she has the entire nation chasing Casey.
ALEXIS TERESZCUK, SENIOR REPORTER, "RADAR ONLINE": Casey is the most hunted woman in America right now.
DIAZ: At the top of the list of those chasing Casey, the media.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I`m in southern California yesterday in Carlsbad.
DIAZ: As we saw this morning on the "Today" show, NBC sent actually a reporter all the way to Carlsbad, California. It`s widely believed that just after Casey walked out of jail early Sunday, she got on a plane, possibly this one.
NBC reported today that a former member of Casey`s defense team, California attorney, Todd Macaluso --
TODD MACALUSO, CASEY ANTHONY`S ATTORNEY: (INAUDIBLE) her innocence.
DIAZ: Just happened to have a private plane in Orlando around the time Casey was released.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: After changing its planned destination twice according to FlightAware records --
DIAZ: And using a map graphic straight out of an "Indiana Jones" movie, NBC tracked the plane`s westward flight path all the way to Carlsbad, California.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The plane appears to have taken a convoluted route west.
DIAZ: ABC also whipped out its very own "Indiana Jones" map tracked Casey out west. Also chasing Casey, the paparazzi, who hope to cash in on that first photo of Casey in hiding.
TERESZCUK: The price tag for the first picture of Casey Anthony is huge. It could fetch anywhere from $100,000 to $250,000, maybe even up to $1 million.
DIAZ: Plus, a freelance TV producer tells HLN`s Jane Velez-Mitchell he`ll give Casey $1 million dollars for her first interview.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We`re not going to coddle you during the interview. We`re going to try to get to the truth.
DIAZ: In addition to chasing Casey for ratings or for a photo or for an interview, lots of people are chasing Casey for money.
JANE VELEZ-MITCHELL, HOST, "ISSUES WITH JANE VELEZ-MITCHELL": Are you suing?
LEONARD PADILLA, BOUNTY: Yes.
VELEZ-MITCHELL: And if so, who? For how much?
PADILLA: Over $200,000 Casey and Jose Baez, both.
DIAZ: Bounty hunter Leonard Padilla told HLN`s Jane Velez-Mitchell he`s suing Casey for $200,000. He claims Casey and her attorney, Jose Baez, hired him to find young Caylee in 2008, even though as Casey`s defense contended in the trial she already knew that Caylee was dead.
PADILLA: He never once said the child is dead. He never once said that.
DIAZ: The bounty hunter isn`t the only one chasing Casey. Remember the mysterious and fictitious Zanny the nanny Casey originally claimed kidnapped Caylee?
CINDY ANTHONY, MOTHER OF CASEY ANTHONY: What message do you want me to give to the nanny?
CASEY ANTHONY, ACQUITTED OF MURDERING HER TWO-YEAR-OLD DAUGHTER, CAYLEE MARIE ANTHONY: That she needs to return Caylee.
DIAZ: Zenaida Fernandez Gonzalez, who has the same name as the imaginary nanny Casey made up, is suing Casey for more than $15,000 for defamation.
Texas Equusearch, which aided in the search for Caylee is suing Casey for $100,000. The State of Florida wants a yet-to-be-determined amount from Casey for what it spent on the investigation.
And Casey is being chased by the scariest foe of all. The IRS has slapped a tax lien against her for $68,000. With all these people after her for money, no wonder Casey`s in hiding.
TERESZCUK: There are quite a few lawsuits that have been filed against her. They want to depose her. They want to know what she has to say.
DIAZ: Casey`s attorneys aren`t saying a word about where Casey is, but with this many people chasing Casey Anthony, SHOWBIZ TONIGHT can tell you it`s only a matter of time before somebody catches Casey.
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But who will be the one to finally catch up with Casey? And it`s our big burning question tonight, where in the world is Casey Anthony?
Right now in New York, Sunny Hostin, who is a legal contributor for "In Session" on our sister network, Tru TV. And right now, in New York, Beth Karas, who is a correspondent for "In Session" and who was right there every day in Orlando -- every day -- covering Casey Anthony`s trial.
Get this, guys. Orlando TV station WFTV reported late today that Casey Anthony is back in Florida. Take a look at these aerials coming in straight from Orlando.
WFTV says its cameras captured a woman looking like Casey Anthony at the Orlando airport running into a building with a jacket covering her head.
But her attorney denied today that that was Casey. Beth, she would have to be crazy to go back to Florida right now, don`t you think?
BETH KARAS, CORRESPONDENT, "IN SESSION": Well, I think it`s probably not Casey. That was probably a decoy that was set up.
I know her attorney says that was not Casey, that she is not in Orlando and he is probably right. I think she`s probably a couple of time zones away out west.
DIAZ: All right. Well, everyone is waiting for that next big photo of Casey Anthony. Let`s face it, people might hate her, but they`re curious. What`s she doing? Where`s she living?
Sunny, I`m thinking that Casey should make like a celebrity and release the photo herself. Would that even work for Casey?
SUNNY HOSTIN, LEGAL CONTRIBUTOR, "IN SESSION": I don`t know that it would work. I mean, bottom line is, yes, perhaps that`s something that`s done in Hollywood.
But this is Casey Anthony. I don`t think so. I mean, I got to tell you, Carlos, I feel like I`m watching a "Where`s Waldo" episode.
DIAZ: Yes.
HOSTIN: Everybody`s looking for her. Will it stop search and the bloodlust if she releases her own picture? I don`t think so. We still want to know where she is.
DIAZ: Yes, you make a good point. Yes, celebrities release photos of their babies so that paparazzi won`t, you know, go after their babies. But they`re not going after their babies with a bloodlust. They`re going after their babies for that first big photo.
Now, even if Casey is living in southern California, she does seem to be trapped in her own personal hell. Let`s face it. She isn`t really a free woman. She`s probably going to have to stay in hiding for a long time to come.
Everyone, from the bounty hunter to the government, will be after her for money. Sunny, do you think Casey is indeed trapped in her own personal hell?
HOSTIN: I think there`s no question about it, Carlos, and I said it from the very beginning. So many people are outraged that she isn`t in prison. Well, she`s in some sort of informal prison, isn`t she?
Life, as she knows it, is gone. She can never go back to that. She`s really on her own. She`s not going to go back to her family. She`s separated herself from everything she`s used to, everything that she`s ever known.
She`s only 25 years old. She`s going to be in the prison of public opinion forever. I think, in some respects, that`s worse than being in a prison cell.
DIAZ: Yes. But something tells me she might not be that affected by not spending time with her mom and dad.
HOSTIN: Yes, that`s true.
DIAZ: That relationship could be strained. Beth, do you think Casey is trapped in her own personal hell?
KARAS: I do. I think though that this is better than being in a jail cell. She has liberty. She can get up and do what she wants. She may not be able to go out in the public yet, but there will come a time when she will able to.
And she`s in demand right now. This is a woman who is going to make some money. People are making offers to her. Granted there are liens and judgments and lawsuits against her and so it`s not all hers and I`m sure her attorney is going to take a big chunk of whatever deal they cut.
But I`m sure she`s in hiding right now because her lawyer is looking for the best deal possible and that`s probably what`s being negotiated right now.
DIAZ: Yes. Beth, you make a great point. Now that Casey is free, she is free to sell her story. Today, we learned someone else has surfaced offering her $5 million to do an interview. We don`t know whether that`s legit.
But all the Casey haters out there pledged to boycott everything Casey -- books, movies, everything. But some argue the haters are the ones that made her famous in the first place and there`s no going back now.
Sunny, you can`t make her un-famous now. I mean, really, there`s no going back.
HOSTIN: Oh, really. She`s infamous, I think, not necessarily famous. But bottom line is, people do want to hear whatever story she`s going to tell. We don`t know if it`s going to be the story.
But people want to hear it. They want to see her. This is a story that just has captured, not only I think the nation, but perhaps the world. And so there`s no question she`s going to make millions and millions of dollars from it.
DIAZ: But Beth, I mean, do you agree with Sunny? Is she infamous or is she famous?
KARAS: Well, what made her well-known to all of us, it is infamy. It`s notoriety. Those are pejorative terms. Yes, she`s famous in that there`s name recognition. There`s facial recognition. But what made her famous isn`t something positive.
DIAZ: Yes, and that`s the scary thing these days about fame. There is a fine line between being famous and being infamous and that line keeps getting blurred more and more every day. Sunny Hostin, Beth Karas, thanks so much, guys.
All right. Coming up on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT, a Casey Anthony exclusive. The bounty hunter who helped search for little Caylee and posted Casey`s bond is now suing Casey.
But why? He is right here for an exclusive SHOWBIZ TONIGHT newsmaker interview you`ll see only on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT.
Brand-new revelations today about Jennifer Lopez` split from Marc Anthony. But who should Jennifer date next? And tonight`s SHOWBIZ Flashpoint, do you feel sorry for J-Lo?
Plus, Bristol Palin`s stunning new confessions. Her revealing sex talk to HLN`s own Dr. Drew. This is SHOWBIZ TONIGHT on HLN news and views.
Now, the "SHOWBIZ News Ticker" -- more stories from the SHOWBIZ TONIGHT newsroom making news tonight.
TEXT: Arnold Schwarzenegger scandal to be plotline on "Law and Order: SVU." Mila Kunis says she`s obsessed with "Jersey Shore."
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MILA KUNIS, ACTRESS: Apparently, I love New Jersey because I watch "Jersey-licious." I watch "Jersey Shore." I watch -- you know, it`s Tivo`d in Detroit. I`m really excited. I know, I know, it`s really exciting.
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DIAZ: Welcome back to SHOWBIZ TONIGHT. I`m Carlos Diaz. A terrible tragedy involving Khloe Kardashian`s husband, Lamar Odom. And 89-year-old Betty White gets asked out by much younger Marine to his ball. Did she say yes? It`s all in "The Buzz Today."
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(voice-over) Betty`s big sorry sergeant. Betty White has just shattered a Marine`s dreams of making her the belle of his ball. Sgt. Ray Lewis invited the 89-year-old actress to his Marine Corps ball via YouTube.
But Betty has just told SHOWBIZ TONIGHT in a new statement that she`s busy and has to respectfully decline, "I am deeply flattered and truly appreciate the invitation. As everyone knows, I love a man in uniform, but unfortunately, I cannot accept as I will be taping an episode of `Hot in Cleveland.` Love, Betty White."
Lamar and Khloe`s crash devastation. NBA star, Lamar Odom, and his wife, Khloe Kardashian, have just revealed their sorrow after a car Lamar was riding in crashed and killed a 15-year-old boy.
TMZ reports Odom was a backseat passenger in a car he had hired to take him to a cousin`s funeral in New York last week when the vehicle was involved in a fatal accident.
Both Lamar and Khloe are tweeting their condolences, "My thoughts and prayers are with the young boy`s family," Lamar said. Khloe added, "Our love will give us strength. Love conquers all."
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DIAZ: But that`s not all Khloe Kardashian tweeted about the horrible accident, because things got a little bit nasty on Khloe`s Twitter page when her fans went after her.
With me right now in New York, Beth Karas, who is a correspondent for "In Session" on Tru TV. And from Hollywood, Kim Serafin, who is a senior editor for "In Touch Weekly."
Apparently, some of Khloe`s fans posted some comments on her Twitter page about that fatal car crash, and Khloe fired back.
In a series of tweets, Khloe wrote, "Stop judging other people`s lives that you know nothing about. My husband and I are in New York for a funeral for his family. Senseless violence is disgusting."
"A family member of his was killed and some of the comments are you saying due to that fact I am off Twitter today are disgusting. Makes me think twice about social media."
It sounds like some of Khloe`s fans suspect Khloe`s husband had something to do with that accident. But Kim, he was just a passenger in the car. He wasn`t at the wheel. I`m sure he feels terribly about it.
KIM SERAFIN, SENIOR EDITOR, "IN TOUCH WEEKLY": Yes, exactly. And he was in town because he was attending a family member`s funeral as she did tweet. So I think people maybe people misunderstood some of her tweets.
And that`s what happens in Twitter. That`s what happens on social media. You can`t really see the emotion. She was obviously putting it out there both for her husband but also sending condolences to the family of this young boy who was killed.
DIAZ: Right.
SERAFIN: And I think people mistook it in different ways. There were some people that were supporting her. Other people thought this was inappropriate.
DIAZ: All right. I`ve got to move on to the so-called Facebook murder party. Seventeen-year-old Tyler Hadley was charged today with killing his parents with a hammer in their Florida house.
Then, he had about 60 of his Facebook friends over to party while his parents` bodies were upstairs in the master bedroom, half buried under picture frames and books.
Beth, unbelievable stuff. The police said today they have the murder weapon. They have their suspect. Is there anything that makes you think this is not an open-and-shut case?
KARAS: Well, it certainly does sound like it`s open and shut. The charges were reduced to second degree murder. They were originally first degree murder.
What happened was he invited his friends for a party on Saturday night, 40 to 60 friends on Facebook. That invitation preceded the death of his parents. Who knows what happened?
Maybe they said, "You can`t have the party." He kills them, allegedly, leaves them in the master bedroom. It`s locked. He has the party for several hours with his friends in the house.
And then a tip to the police led the police in the early morning hours of Sunday to make the gruesome discovery.
DIAZ: Wow. Unbelievable stuff. Beth Karas, Kim Serafin, thank you so much, guys.
Tonight, the Octomom caught on tape. Is this the proof that she did say she hates babies?
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SULEMAN: I absolutely am disgusted by babies. I have to be honest, they make me sick. I couldn`t even imagine -- I don`t even look at them. I have to look the other way.
(END AUDIO CLIP)
DIAZ: Whoa. Octumom hates babies? Not a good idea since she has 14 kids. Wait until you hear this.
Our SHOWBIZ TONIGHT Casey Anthony exclusive. The bounty hunter who helped search for little Caylee and posted Casey`s bond is now suing Casey. But why?
He is right here for an exclusive headline-making interview you`ll see only on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT. This is SHOWBIZ TONIGHT on HLN news and views.
Now, the "SHOWBIZ News Ticker" -- more stories from the SHOWBIZ TONIGHT newsroom making news tonight.
TEXT: Prince William and Catherine move into royal apartment in Kensington Palace. SHOWBIZ first look: Nick Lachey and Vanessa Minnillo wedding special.
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NICK LACHEY, SINGER AND REALITY TV STAR: It`s Vanessa`s day. Whatever fantasy, whatever dream wedding she has in her head, I want to do everything I can to make that happen.
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DIAZ: They`re back. Snooki and the gang. Today, we got our first look at the "Jersey Shore" crew taking over Italy for the fourth season of the show. Watch this.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I`m doing everything in Italy.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I didn`t do (EXPLETIVES DELETED).
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: (EXPLETIVE DELETED) you. Mike, I`m not (INAUDIBLE).
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: This house went from like this to like this in like two seconds.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (INAUDIBLE) stay away!
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I have a lot of anger built up to Mike. I think it`s time for me to do what I have to do.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Stop it! Stop!
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Let`s do it! Let`s do it!
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DIAZ: Clubbing, hooking, hooking up, fighting. It looks like things never change with those guys. Could the state of "Jersey Shore" actually be good for the state of New Jersey?
Let`s bring in Dawn Yanek, or as my producers call, "Dawn Yanek." Dawn is an editor-at-large for "Life and Style Weekly."
Now, a lot of people, including New Jersey`s governor, have said the popularity of "Jersey Shore" gives the state a bad name.
But tonight, I can tell you that a new poll revealed today shows 43 percent of the people who watch the show actually have a favorable view of New Jersey. Dawn, are you surprised?
DAWN YANEK, EDITOR-AT-LARGE, "LIFE AND STYLE WEEKLY": Completely shocked, I mean, at least anecdotally. Everyone I speak to seems to have a more negative view of Jersey after seeing Snooki and crew in action.
I don`t know. Maybe Jersey has an image problem to begin with because only 41 to 43 percent of people said they have a favorable view, which means the majority of people who answered this poll thought otherwise.
DIAZ: We know that the cast in the "Jersey Shore" is in Seaside Heights right now. They`re right there in Seaside Heights filming the fifth season. Dawn, should they do a PSA while they`re there?
YANEK: Why not? I mean, you know, they can bring tourism to New Jersey. And of course, they will talk about the fighting and fist-pumping and all of that stuff which, of course, will only get them higher salaries for the next season of "Jersey Shore."
DIAZ: Exactly. I think that, you know, you`ve got to do your part. You`ve got to say, hey, we like to party and have a good time. But you know what? Partying and having a good time -- that`s a good part of New Jersey.
YANEK: No kidding.
DIAZ: All right. Dawn Yanek thank you so much. I really appreciate it.
YANEK: Thank you.
DIAZ: Now, the SHOWBIZ lineup -- here`s what`s coming up at the bottom of the hour right here on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT.
A SHOWBIZ TONIGHT Casey Anthony exclusive. The bounty hunter who helped search for little Caylee and posted Casey`s bond is now suing Casey. But why? He is right here for a headline-making interview you`ll see only on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT.
So now that J-Lo is a single lady, who should she date? Maybe Bradley Cooper? Her ex, Sean Diddy Combs? How about George Clooney? He`s single. Find out, coming up. This is SHOWBIZ TONIGHT on HLN news and views.
Now, the "SHOWBIZ News Ticker" -- more stories from the SHOWBIZ TONIGHT newsroom making news tonight.
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DIAZ: Big news breaking tonight on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT -- a Casey Anthony exclusive. The bounty hunter who once helped search for Caylee Anthony and posted Casey`s jail bond is now suing Casey. But why?
The bounty hunter is right here for a headline-making interview you`ll see only on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT.
Brand-new revelations tonight about Jennifer Lopez and Marc Anthony`s split. What happened? And the great debate today, should J-Lo just stay single?
Startling Octomom`s baby confessions caught on tape.
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SULEMAN: I absolutely am disgusted by babies. I have to be honest. They make me sick. I couldn`t even imagine -- I don`t even look at them. I have to look the other way.
(END AUDIO CLIP)
DIAZ: Does the Octomom really hate babies?
ANNOUNCER: TV`s most provocative entertainment news show continues right now.
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DIAZ: Welcome back to SHOWBIZ TONIGHT. It`s 30 minutes past the hour. I`m Carlos Diaz, in for A.J. Hammer with big news breaking tonight -- a SHOWBIZ TONIGHT exclusive, Casey Anthony`s bounty hunter.
SHOWBIZ TONIGHT can confirm that bounty hunter Leonard Padilla, who bailed Casey out of jail when she was first arrested, is getting ready to sue her and her defense attorney for $200,000.
But why does he think Casey owes him so big? And does he really believe he can get paid out when we don`t even know where Casey is?
Joining us tonight from Sacramento is a SHOWBIZ TONIGHT exclusive newsmaker interview, Leonard Padilla.
Now, Leonard, you`d better get in line if you`re looking for money from Casey. Now, that she`s free, there a lot of people who want her to pay cold, hard cash for whatever may have happened to her little girl, Caylee.
You put up a $50,000 in bail to bail her out of jail after one of her arrests. You even brought in security to help protect her at one point. Why are you planning to sue her?
PADILLA: Well, here`s the thing. At the time that I contacted Baez and I was talking to him, he was in New York with his buddy, Geraldo, and I talked to him and suggested that, "OK, I`ll post the bond," he went along with it.
The whole conversation was, yes, somebody took her baby. It might have been the babysitter. It might have been Jesse Grund, the ex- boyfriend. And I really believed the child was alive.
So under that impression, we went to New York myself. I took a couple of people with me. When we got there after talking to Baez, we had to increase our security because we didn`t realize the people that were hanging around the house are one thing and another.
I bought the bond. I paid $50,000 for it. My nephew, Tony Padilla, who runs a bail agency in California, went along with us.
And I supported this whole operation never once thinking that Jose Baez was sitting there knowing that that child was already deceased, never once thinking that Casey Anthony was lying to me when she told me the babysitter took the child.
So it`s a situation where, in opening statements, when Jose Baez comes out and says she never was missing, I looked at Rob and he looked at me and Rob Dick says, "We got played. We got played for fools." And it was very upsetting.
DIAZ: Well, I know you think Casey and her defense lawyer, Jose Baez, conned you into believing Caylee was missing. You point to his opening statement during the trial as proof that he always knew how Caylee died. Let`s watch how that played out during the trial.
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JOSE BAEZ, CASEY ANTHONY`S DEFENSE ATTORNEY: How in the world can a mother wait 30 days before ever reporting her child missing? It`s insane. It`s bizarre. Something`s just not right about that.
Well, the answer is actually relatively simple. She never was missing. Caylee Anthony died on June 16th, 2008 when she drowned in her family`s swimming pool.
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DIAZ: Leonard, why is that statement so important to you? What kind of deal did you make with Jose Baez?
PADILLA: You know, that`s what`s infuriating. We got played and I`m not going to tell you that he was intentionally leading us into a situation. He fraudulently led us into that situation.
He knew from the first or second time that he visited her in jail, he knew at that time the child was deceased. He also knew where the body was of that child.
He wasted a lot of efforts by a lot of people, not only in Orlando, Florida, but around the country by not just having his client stand you and say, "Yes, here is what happened."
Now, the story that she gave him is absurd. That child died by an overdose of chloroform, which she tried to put her to sleep so she could go spend her night at Lazzaro`s house after Cindy and her got in a big knockdown, drag-out fight and she couldn`t come home.
She ran out of that house the night of 15th. In the early hours of the 16th is when she overdosed that child. Baez did not maybe know that at the time, but he knew the child was deceased.
DIAZ: But Leonard, I`ve got to ask you, would you still be suing Casey if she had been found guilty of murder? I mean, why wait to sue? Why not file your suit immediately after Baez`s opening arguments?
PADILLA: The reason I didn`t file it immediately after the opening argument is because I probably spent a whole week sitting there just looking at myself in the mirror and saying, "How could you have gotten duped so bad?"
And then I came out of it by realizing that I`ve never run into a liar like Casey Anthony. And Jose knows how to play his cards close to the vest. He did a good job.
We were there to help. I`m not saying we`re total fools, but we were sure taken advantage of by the fact that he could have said on that phone when I initially called him, "No, we don`t really need your help."
But he built this whole situation up from the start. He knew exactly what he had. He wasn`t surprised for one minute when I was sitting there talking to him one day. And I said, "You`ve got a hell of a case here that`s going to be bigger than O.J. Simpson." This was before I even got her out of jail.
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DIAZ: Before you can get a penny from Casey, you`ve got to know where she is. And SHOWBIZ TONIGHT can reveal that there are brand-new reports tonight that she may be hiding out somewhere in your home right there in California, not in Sacramento, but in southern California.
Leonard, you make your living tracking people down. So you put your bounty hunter hat on, where do you think she is right now?
PADILLA: Well, Todd Macaluso, the attorney that was at one time involved in the case that has his own private airplane, the Palazzo(ph). There`s no doubt in my mind that he`s got control of the situation because Baez had to have somebody he could trust.
This was the same attorney that gave them $70,000, got into the case. There was a problem that he`s cleared by the bar in California again. I think Todd`s a great guy. I think he`s the brains behind putting something together.
DIAZ: You think she`s in southern California right now?
PADILLA: Either in Carlsbad or possibly somewhere in one of these retirement situations up here in the San Francisco area. But definitely, Todd`s got control.
DIAZ: We`ve got about a minute and a half. You`re facing your own lawsuit right now from Roy Kronk, the man who discovered Caylee`s body.
He claims you came right here on HLN, and defamed his character. Let`s watch what you told HLN`s Nancy Grace before the trial started.
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NANCY GRACE, HOST, "THE NANCY GRACE SHOW": What`s your theory? How is Kronk somehow part of a conspiracy? Go ahead and tell me.
PADILLA: Well, we know that the defense is the one that`s benefiting by the confusion right now as to the finding of the body and how it was found. How did somebody get word to Kronk to get out there?
I think he was the end of a daisy chain that started with Casey and two or three people in the middle there.
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DIAZ: Leonard, Roy Kronk is now suing you for defamation. Let`s not forget he was a witness for the prosecution in the trial. Do you regret what you said about him here on HLN? Or do you stand by it?
PADILLA: How can anybody regret the truth coming out? This lawsuit is going to end up in a hunt for the truth on what happened to Caylee and how she ended up in that marsh.
The situation was such that Caylee herself doesn`t speak, that there`s bounty hunters out here that have been -- you know, we`ve been wronged. And you don`t wrong Mother Nature. You don`t wrong bounty hunters. We`re going to get to the bottom of this and this lawsuit is going to do it.
DIAZ: You`ve got 10 seconds. So you welcome being sued to find the truth for Caylee?
PADILLA: Absolutely. I can take depositions from Kronk, his girlfriend, law enforcement where Casey was interned, Casey herself and her attorney.
DIAZ: All right. Leonard Padilla, thank you so much for joining us. Some big breaking news right there. As Leonard just said, he thinks Casey Anthony may be in California.
But as we reported earlier in the show, there`s brand-new video which shows that she may actually be back in Orlando.
Brand-new startling revelations today about J-Lo`s split from Marc Anthony. Their surprising sudden breakup. But were there clues that their marriage was falling apart? Plus, the great debate -- should J-Lo just stay single? We`ve got some big stars that she could date.
And tonight, absolutely shocking Octomom baby confessions caught on tape.
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SULEMAN: I absolutely am disgusted by babies. I have to be honest, they make me sick. I couldn`t even imagine -- I don`t even look at them. I have to look the other way.
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DIAZ: Does the Octomom really hate her babies? I mean, she`s got 14 kids. You have got to hear this. This is SHOWBIZ TONIGHT on HLN news and view.
Now, the "SHOWBIZ News Ticker" -- more stories from the SHOWBIZ TONIGHT newsroom making news tonight.
TEXT: Emma Watson studying abroad at Oxford next year before returning to Brown. SHOWBIZ first look: "Hef`s Runaway Bride" Lifetime special.
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HUGH HEFNER, FOUNDER, "PLAYBOY" MAGAZINE: I can`t honestly say that I really know who she is and what she really wanted.
CRYSTAL HARRIS, HUGH HEFNER`S EX-FIANCEE: I think I made the right decision. What was I supposed to do, stick it out?
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DIAZ: Just in tonight, jaw-dropping new J-Lo breakup news. We just got handed the results of our SHOWBIZ TONIGHT exclusive poll where we asked Jennifer Lopez and Marc Anthony split, so should J-Lo stay single?
Eighty-five percent of you said yes. Fifteen percent of you said no. But what if she doesn`t stay single? I know I`d love to see another headline-grabbing affair. That would be kind of cool.
Tonight, the great debate, who should Jennifer date next? Bradley cooper? How about her ex, Sean Diddy Combs? Or her former co-star who is now very single, George Clooney?
Welcome back to SHOWBIZ TONIGHT. I`m Carlos Diaz. The great J-Lo debate continues in just a moment. But first, the Octomom`s caught-on-tape baby bashing.
The mom of 14 stunned the world when she reportedly told "In Touch" magazine that babies disgust her and that she hates them.
Then Nadya Suleman fired back and claims she never said it. Well, tonight we`ve got the Octomom caught on tape in her own voice ranting and raving about babies, babies, babies.
Right now, in New York, is Sunny Hostin who is a legal contributor for "In Session" on Tru TV. And in Hollywood is Wendy Walsh, who is a doctor of psychology.
"In Touch" reported on what the Octomom said and they said it was based on an interview recorded by a reporter in Britain. SHOWBIZ TONIGHT obtained the tapes today and a spokesperson for the Octomom confirms that the voice in that tape is Nadya Suleman. Listen for yourself.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE REPORTER: If you have the money, the ability to have more children, would you?
SULEMAN: God help me, no.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE REPORTER: Never again?
SULEMAN: Yes. No, I cringe and I`m not kidding. When I hear a baby cry when I`m outside, when I hear a baby cry, I cringe. I`m being honest.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE REPORTER: Not your own --
SULEMAN: I do not like babies. I do not like babies. It`s also very hard for me to bond. I bond with my six, my first six because I`m starting to have my own little hypothesis (INAUDIBLE) when you have a tremendous amount, a litter, I think, something happens in the brain which prevents them to be able to bond.
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DIAZ: I don`t know which is more upsetting, the fact that Octomom said these things or that she denied saying it. Wendy, the Octomom`s reps suggested to us today that that was taken out of context. What`s going through your mind as you hear this?
WENDY WALSH, DOCTOR OF PSYCHOLOGY: Well, Carlos, I never thought I`d be out there defending the Octomom. But I do think that it might have been taken out of context that they`re asking for instance whether she bonds well or easier with babies as opposed to older children.
Because some moms have trouble bonding with babies and do much better once they`re walking and talking and a lot of fun. And also, I do agree. I mean, if you look at the whole animal species, whenever there is a litter that is too big, moms ignore the runts. They have to. It`s about survival of the fittest.
So she`s talking about this brain thing that happened with her because there are so many kids. I can understand the phenomenon. I still disagree with the fact that she manufactured eight humans. She`s still responsible for them.
DIAZ: OK. I`m with you. I`m surprised that you`re agreeing with her. And the Octomom doesn`t stop there. She goes on to say babies make her sick with the exception of her own little darlings. Here`s more of that. Listen.
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SULEMAN: I absolutely am disgusted by babies. I have to be honest. They make me sick. I couldn`t even imagine -- I don`t even look at them. I have to look the other way.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE REPORTER: What about your own?
SULEMAN: No, these are my children.
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DIAZ: Sunny, could her children actually be taken away from her because of these confessions?
HOSTIN: I don`t think so. I mean, certainly not based, Carlos, just on these confessions. But certainly, I think it`s something that investigators for the Department of Child Services would be interested in listening to because her children are still babies.
I mean, the fact that they`re not infants like we`re showing in this picture doesn`t mean that they`re not babies. And I`m kind of offended by the fact that she calls it a litter.
I mean, I`m a mom and I`m just shocked. I mean, one of the good things I think perhaps is that she now realizes that this was a mistake for her and that she won`t be doing it anymore and she won`t be having any other children.
But certainly, in terms of the legal aspect, I would say an investigator could possibly be interested in making a little home visit perhaps.
DIAZ: Exactly. It`s very good point. I`ve got to move on to new details revealed about Jennifer Lopez` sudden split from Marc Anthony.
They just announced their separation after seven years of marriage, but it was just a couple months ago that Jennifer gushed about her love, the bliss that influenced her title to her new album. Watch what she told SHOWBIZ TONIGHT`s Kareen Wynter.
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JENNIFER LOPEZ, SINGER AND ACTRESS: It`s about I think what everybody knows it`s about. Love is a really complex topic. I`ve been singing about it from my first album.
And now that I`m at a really good place in my life, in a great relationship and really settled, I can look at it in a different way.
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DIAZ: I really think Jennifer wears her heart on her sleeve so I don`t think she was trying to be coy about troubles in her love life.
So Wendy, if J-Lo was telling the truth there, does it make you think that there was a sudden and dramatic implosion that ended her marriage?
WALSH: Either there was a giant boundary violation and, you know, the big huge ones of course are affairs, drug or alcohol use, domestic violence, so either something enormous like that happened or she`s doing really good PR.
Remember she`s grown up in the entertainment business. She knows how to work it. She`s selling an album. She could be just doing good PR there.
DIAZ: Yes. I mean -- and also, what was she going to say in the middle of the interview and go, "And by the way, my marriage is failing"?
"Latina" magazine talked with J-Lo and Marc just one month before their split. With me now is Galina Espinoza. She`s the editorial director of "Latina" magazine.
Galina, here`s one quote that jumped out at me from that "Latina" magazine interview, "You know when you are with someone that you have an amazing chemistry with and Marc and I had amazing chemistry from the very first time that we met." Did you have any hint there was trouble in paradise?
GALINA ESPINOZA, EDITORIAL DIRECTOR, "LATINA" MAGAZINE: Absolutely not. And we spoke to her on June 15th, exactly one month to the day of the announcement that they were separating, and it was for A story about Marc and Jennifer as a couple.
I don`t think that there is any Hollywood celebrity who would sit down willingly to talk about the intimate details about their marriage, their relationship, their family life if they thought they were about to break up.
I do believe that something between June 15th and the day they announced happened that made it impossible for them to stay together.
DIAZ: So you`re saying -- I mean, quickly -- it was something very sudden?
ESPINOZA: I think that it was something very sudden because when she spoke to us, she talked about the tremendous love she had for Marc. She was a woman in love.
DIAZ: All right. All right. Guys, I really appreciate it. So who should J-Lo date next? SHOWBIZ TONIGHT plays matchmaker. Calling hubby number four. Should it be Bradley Cooper, her ex-flame, Sean Diddy Combs or the newly single George Clooney?
Wendy Walsh, Galina Espinoza, stay right there because, coming up next, we`ve got the SHOWBIZ great debate.
Next, Bristol Palin`s sex confessions. In a brand-new interview with HLN`s Dr. Drew, Bristol reveals her biggest teen sex regrets and the lessons she learned from having sex too soon. You do not want to miss this.
Now, the "SHOWBIZ News Ticker" -- more stories from the SHOWBIZ TONIGHT newsroom making news tonight.
TEXT: Helen Mirren replaces Bette Midler in HBO Films` "Phil Spector" biopic.
DIAZ: Time now for the SHOWBIZ buzz list. Here`s what the SHOWBIZ TONIGHT staff is buzzing about this week.
A big shout-out to the entire U.S. Women`s Soccer Team for an amazing show at the World Cup. Congratulations, ladies.
You`ve got to download the just-released CNN Video Experience app. CNN and HLN are the very first 24-hour news networks to stream live on CNN.com on your iPad or even on your iPhone.
The new law drama, "Suites," is looking pretty sharp to us. We`ll be watching Thursday nights on USA.
We`re absolutely riveted by Jaycee Dugard`s new book, "A Stolen Life" detailing her harrowing 18 years in captivity.
And we`re psyched to see our friend Justin Timberlake and Mila Kunis in "Friends with Benefits" out Friday. This is SHOWBIZ TONIGHT on HLN news and views.
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DIAZ: Tonight, Bristol Palin`s brand-new sex confessions. Sarah Palin`s daughter opens up to HLN`s Dr. Drew Pinsky about her teen sex regrets.
In a brand-new interview, Bristol reveals the lessons that she learned from having sex too young and being a teen mom at just 17 years old.
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BRISTOL PALIN, DAUGHTER OF FMR. GOV. SARAH PALIN: My life, my teenage years were cut completely short. I was on the fast track to adulthood in an instant because of that one decision.
I`m not out there saying, "Don`t have sex." I hate that kind of stuff. I`m just saying that birth control needs to be used effectively each and every single time if you`re going to be having sex, because teen pregnancy is the hardest thing that I have ever had to go through.
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DIAZ: You don`t want to miss this incredible interview. The rest of this interview is amazing. Bristol opens up about her new life, her famous mom, Sarah Palin, and her new book, all in a Dr. Drew primetime special this Thursday right here on HLN.
All right. Right now, the great SHOWBIZ debate. I love this one. Who should Jennifer Lopez date once she`s officially a single lady again? Believe it or not, Irish oddsmakers are already taking bets on the love life of Jennifer Lopez.
Tonight, SHOWBIZ TONIGHT plays matchmaker. We`re back with doctor of psychology, Wendy Walsh and Galina Espinoza, the editor and director of "Latina" magazine.
All right. Forget betting on the ponies. Some Irish bookies got together to bet on J-Lo`s love life. Here`s some of the hot hook-ups they came up with. Check this out.
There are eight to one odds for Bradley Cooper. How about a reunion with ex, Sean Diddy Combs? There are 16 to one odds for that. And here`s a good one, George Clooney. There are 25 to one odds. They could make a love connection. That would be out of sight. Galina, who gets your vote and why?
ESPINOZA: I`m going in a completely different direction. And I`m going to say you`ve got Jennifer Lopez, "People" magazine`s most beautiful woman in the world. With why not hook her up with "People`s" reigning sexiest man alive, Ryan Reynolds? He`s back on the market after his split from Scarlett Johansson and, my god, this would be one hot couple.
DIAZ: Yes, I like that. A little bit of a "Green Lantern" action with Jennifer Lopez. OK, I can see that. Now, Wendy, it`s your turn. Bradley Cooper, Diddy or Clooney for J-Lo, or you can go off the board like Galina did.
WALSH: I`m going off the board, but before I say this, I`ve got to say you never go back to old boyfriends. P. Diddy -- definitely, no way, because you reenact the same thing all over again. It`s like trying an old drug to get you (INAUDIBLE).
DIAZ: Wendy, what do you think?
WALSH: I think, Carlos, you know where I`m going, Ms. Mom Logic, that she should have a long-term committed relationship with her children.
She`s a single mom. She`s got to earn a living and take care of her kids. There`s no time for boys and jets and flitting off to resorts.
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ESPINOZA: Jennifer has enough money in the bank at this point to not have to worry about providing for her kids.
DIAZ: Come on. Come on. Wendy, Galina -- that`s it. We`re done. That`s SHOWBIZ TONIGHT, guys. Thank you so much. I appreciate it. I`m Carlos Diaz.
Remember, you can you catch SHOWBIZ TONIGHT exclusively Monday through Friday at 11:00 p.m. Eastern right here on HLN.
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