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Hank Williams, Jr. Hammers Back; Demi and Ashton`s Retreat; Dr. Conrad Murray in His Own Words; Kim Kardashian`s Happily Ever After
Aired October 11, 2011 - 23:00 ET
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A.J. HAMMER, HLN HOST: Big news breaking tonight on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT -- Hank hammers back. Hank Williams, Jr. fires back at Fox News and ESPN after getting drop-kicked from Monday night football for his President Obama/Hitler comments.
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HANK WILLIAMS, JR., COUNTRY SINGER: United Socialist States of America
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HAMMER: Hank is hot under the collar today on "The View."
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H. WILLIAMS: Never kick a cow turd on a hot day.
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HAMMER: Tonight, SHOWBIZ TONIGHT with Hank`s raw return.
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H. WILLIAMS: We know who to blame
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Demi and Ashton`s campy retreat. Startling revelations today about Demi Moore and Ashton Kutcher camping out after his alleged cheating. Did Ashton really beg to be forgiven? The SHOWBIZ Flashpoint -- will their marriage survive or is it lights out?
Dr. Conrad Murray in his own words. Dramatic new tape in court today of Murray talking to police after Michael Jackson`s death. Tonight, is a Conrad conviction now a done deal?
TV`s most provocative entertainment news show breaks new right now.
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Hello, I`m A.J. Hammer in New York with big news breaking tonight -- Hank hammers back. A hot under the collar Hank Williams, Jr. hammered back big time today.
He is fighting back after all the controversy that began when he appeared on Fox News and compared President Obama to Hitler.
He`s taken on Fox. He`s taken on ESPN. They dumped him and his long- time Monday night football theme song "All My Rowdy Friends." And Hank is taking them on with another song he calls "Keep The Change"
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WILLIAMS (singing): This country has gone down the drain. We know what we need. We know who to blame. United Socialist States of America, how do you like that name?
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HAMMER: There you go. Now, don`t think for a minute that the country singer would go down singing because, wait, there`s more. Just hours after the world got a taste of his new song, he did his very first interview this morning on "The View."
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ELISABETH HASSELBECK, CO-HOST, "THE VIEW": Do you wish you had used a different analogy at this point?
H. WILLIAMS: You know what? At this point I really don`t. At this point, I don`t.
BARBARA WALTERS, EXECUTIVE PRODUCER AND CO-HOST, "THE VIEW": You don`t wish -- you`re happy that you called him Hitler?
H. WILLIAMS: No, I`m not calling -- it`s an analogy.
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HAMMER: OK. With me tonight from Los Angeles, Ken Baker. Ken is the chief news correspondent for E! With me in New York tonight, Sunny Hostin, from "In Session" on our sister network, Tru TV.
So here`s the deal -- the one thing we keep hearing and heard over and over on "The View" this morning was Hank Williams, Jr. saying over and over again he was misunderstood when he said that Obama playing golf with the Republican Speaker of the House would be like Israeli`s prime minister playing golf with Hitler, something he said on Fox. Here`s how he explained himself about that on "The View."
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WALTERS: How were you misunderstood?
H. WILLIAMS: I guess it`s called stepping on the toes of freedom of speech.
WALTERS: But ESPN says you can have freedom of speech but have you to bear the consequences.
H. WILLIAMS: Well, that`s good. I applaud them. That`s their freedom of speech.
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HAMMER: Yes. Hank Williams, Jr., free speech crusader. You know, I`m a little tired of this because you hear it over and over when a celebrity gets fired for saying something controversial. They get up and cry, "My freedom of speech has been violated."
Quite frankly, I don`t buy it in Hank`s case. Yes, he absolutely has the right to say what he wants about politics. And you know what? He did. ESPN had a right to decide if he wanted to be -- if they wanted to be associated with such a provocative statement.
But don`t take my word for it. Let`s go to our resident attorney on staff today, Sunny Hostin. What do you think? Is Hank right about talking about a free speech issue here? I don`t see it that way at all.
SUNNY HOSTIN, LEGAL CONTRIBUTOR, "IN SESSION": I don`t --
HAMMER: I get his point but I don`t see it that way.
HOSTIN: Yes. I agree with you. I get his point, and certainly, there is the First Amendment. And you do have you the freedom to say whatever you to want say.
HAMMER: Yes.
HOSTIN: But there are consequences to it, and most people are employees at will, right? So ESPN decided they did not want to be associated with him. I`ve got to tell you though -- I think this is the best thing that`s happened to Hank.
I don`t think anyone was talking about Hank, right? I don`t know -- listening to his music -- I wasn`t really talking about Hank. But now I know about Hank. This is great for Hank.
HAMMER: His song was on Monday night football for so long. You know it kind of hits him right here and it`s going to hit him a little in the wallet, too, because there are royalties involved with the (UNINTELLIGIBLE) of that song.
HOSTIN: I don`t know. I think he`s going to get a reality show. I think he`s going to run for mayor of something. I think Hank`s got it going on now.
HAMMER: Yes. Well, I`ll tell you what. You`re right. Everybody is talking about that. And if you look at social media, it is out there. In fact, the SHOWBIZ TONIGHT Facebook page was lit up today. People are so passionate about this. .
Let me read a couple of the comments. This is from Karre S. This is what Karre S. wrote, "He can say whatever he wants to say. It`s called freedom of speech. Some may agree and some may not, but it is his choice to say what he wants."
But Deb V. writing this, "He can sing whatever he likes and ESPN can fire him if they like. Freedom of speech and freedom of action for all."
Ken, let me go to you, my friend. Are you seeing Hank Williams, Jr. as a victim at all here?
KEN BAKER, CHIEF NEWS CORRESPONDENT, "E!": In a way, I am, only because all of us have that crazy uncle or that crazy grandpa who tends to say, like, the wrong thing at the wrong time. The thing is, our relatives who do that -- they`re not on camera when they do that.
HAMMER: Right. Right.
BAKER: This is the case that happened. So it just seems like -- I mean, there`s an expression in the heartland, A.J. It`s called "nuttier than a squirrel turd." And I think that Hank Williams, Jr. certainly falls within that description.
But it`s really unfortunate because, you know, no one is -- as you pointed out, no one is disputing his right to say as he wants.
But as you`ve expertly point out, there are ramifications for it and people don`t have to agree with it and they don`t have to necessarily want to broadcast or publicize you if you say things they don`t agree with.
HAMMER: Exactly. That`s Ken Baker.
BAKER: That`s just the nature of -- yes, exactly.
HAMMER: Ken Baker bringing the heartland to Hollywood, and we thank you for that. Listen, while not everybody is laughing about what Hank said, there was a lot of laughing going on, on "Saturday Night Live." I caught this, this weekend and I thought they had great fun making fun of what he said on Fox. Let`s watch, shall we?
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UNIDENTIFIED ACTOR: So, this is our fault?
UNIDENTIFIED ACTOR: Well, had you a big role in it. And Mr. Williams would like an apology.
UNIDENTIFIED ACTOR: Hell, yes. Apologize to (UNINTELLIGIBLE).
UNIDENTIFIED ACTOR: You`re not helping.
UNIDENTIFIED ACTOR: Of course, I`m not helping. I`m crazy.
UNIDENTIFIED ACTOR: You introduced Mr. Williams as a man who knew a thing or two about politics. Telling him he`s a political analyst is akin to giving a baby a gun.
UNIDENTIFIED ACTOR: Don`t give a baby a gun. President Barack Hitler will just take it away.
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HAMMER: All right. Obviously, it`s hysterical. But to the question of how is Hank doing so far, let`s break out the SHOWBIZ score card.
We already know Sunny Hostin thinks that he`s on his way to bigger superstardom. He was quit or was fired by ESPN, depending on whom you ask. But as you saw, he was spoofed on "SNL." That`s a big deal for a lot of people.
He got booked on "The View" and other talk shows and he revealed today his new song has already been downloaded 100,000 times.
Now, I was thinking that, of course, may have something to do with the fact that it`s a free download. Sunny, what do you think? Do we put Hank William Jr.`s name in the winner`s column for this?
HOSTIN: He`s winning. There`s no question about it. I mean, we`re all talking about Hank Williams. It`s great publicity for him, great pr. He may be crazy like, you know, a fox. Let`s face it. I think this is the best thing that`s happened to him in years.
HAMMER: You are free to say that right here on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT.
HOSTIN: Thank you. Thank you.
HAMMER: If somebody doesn`t like it, you may get booted off the show. I`m just telling you right now. All right. Let`s move along, because SHOWBIZ TONIGHT now brings you more big news breaking.
We have to get to the Michael Jackson death trial. This is astounding, what happened today. Jurors heard the rest of recording that police made of their interview with Dr. Conrad Murray.
Of course, this happened two days after Jackson`s death. The most dramatic moment by far, Dr. Murray revealing how he broke the news to Michael`s children, Prince, Paris and Blanket, that their father was dead. Listen to this.
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DR. CONRAD MURRAY, MICHAEL JACKSON`S FORMER PERSON PHYSICIAN: After they cried and cried and cried, then his daughter uttered a lot of words of unhappiness and, you know, she will live alone without her dad, and she didn`t want to be an orphan.
And real sad, real sad. She`s like my daughter. She asked me, "Dr. Murray, you said you save a lot of patients. You know, you save people with heart attacks. And you couldn`t save my dad?"
I said, "I tried my best." And she said, "I know that, Dr. Murray. At least I know. I know you tried your best. I know you tried your best, but I`m really sad. You know, I will wake up in the morning and I won`t be able to see my daddy."
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HAMMER: I mean, that is just heartbreaking. Ken, I want to go to you on this, because you`ve been right there in that courtroom every day, watching the Murray trial firsthand since it began.
Now, the live coverage that we see have day on HLN, the courtroom cameras are not allowed to show Michael Jackson`s family who are showing up every day. So can you tell us, how are they reacting to hearing Dr. Murray describe that awful day that they lost Michael?
BAKER: Yes, A.J. First of all, yes, it was very touching, very moving to hear the recollection of that interaction that he had with Paris. But I was in the courtroom. I was in the row -- one row behind Michael Jackson`s mother, Katherine and his oldest sister, Rebbie.
And I did look over at Katherine during the testimony and she was crying during that audiotape recording, that part of it, where the doctor was remembering what he told Paris and what she was saying. It was so heartbreaking.
You know, she wanted her dad to come back, "Can`t you save him?" And Katherine was dabbing tears with a tissue and was being consoled by her daughter. You know, I think that`s expected.
But you know, back to the case itself, I was also watching the jury. No one from the jury was actually -- or alternates who are in the same jury box noticed the crying. I was really -- they weren`t looking over there.
They just had their heads buried in the transcript that was provided for them because it was kind of hard to understand some of the portions of the audiotape. So nevertheless, very moving, very sad for Katherine.
HAMMER: Yes. There`s been a lot of question. Can the jury watching Jackson family reacting actually influence what they`re thinking? I really appreciate your special insight there. Ken Baker, Sunny Hostin, thank you for joining me.
Moving now to Demi Moore and Ashton Kutcher`s fiery camping trip. New pictures just out today. So what happened? Did Ashton beg for forgiveness? Here`s the SHOWBIZ Flashpoint -- will their marriage survive? Also this --
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Watch your (EXPLETIVE DELETED) mouth.
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HAMMER: Real housewives, real drama. The new wars. Kyle Richards taking us behind the Beverly Hills bling. "The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills" co-star is here. Kyle`s telling me how Taylor Armstrong is doing after her husband`s suicide. We`ve got a SHOWBIZ newsmaker interview with her, coming up.
Kim K.`s happily ever after. Tonight, we`ve got the intimate details from Kim Kardashian`s wedding.
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KIM KARDASHIAN, REALITY TV STAR: It is so stressful planning a wedding. I had no idea. I wanted to kill everyone around me.
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HAMMER: Plus, one of Kim`s guests tells us about what you didn`t see on the TV wedding extravaganza. Can`t wait for that. This is SHOWBIZ TONIGHT on HLN news and views.
And this is the "SHOWBIZ News Ticker" -- more stories from the SHOWBIZ TONIGHT newsroom making news tonight.
TEXT: Beyonce reveals her baby is due in February. Barbara Walters talks about Paul McCartney`s marriage to her cousin.
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WALTERS: Paul sang a song he had written just for Nancy. Nobody`s heard it. He called her "My Valentine." She wore, by the way, a long beautiful, sort of plum-colored chiffon dress and then they went upstairs and put on jeans and t-shirts.
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ELISABETH HASSELBECK, CO-HOST, "THE VIEW": I`m certainly not going to be the person for you to explain your thoughts. They`re your thoughts. Defend your own insinuations.
ROSIE O`DONNELL, FORMER CO-HOST, "THE VIEW": I defend my thoughts.
HASSELBECK: Defend your own thoughts.
O`DONNELL: Right. But every time I defend them, Elisabeth, it`s poor little Elisabeth that I`m picking on.
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HAMMER: The return of Rosie. Who can forget those good times? Rosie O`Donnell`s infamous war of words with Elisabeth Hasselbeck on "The View."
But that was then. Now, Rosie`s back. Her brand-new show just debuted on Oprah`s OWN network. So how did she do?
Welcome back to SHOWBIZ TONIGHT. I`m A.J. Hammer in New York. Tonight, Rosie`s return.
Kind of hard to believe it`s already been over four years since Rosie O`Donnell`s explosive exit from "The View." But should we brace ourselves for another possible explosion? Or is Rosie back to being the queen of nice?
With me tonight from Atlanta, entertainment journalist, Kelley Carter.
All right, Kelley. So Rosie kicked off her first live show on the OWN network last night. She did a monologue, took questions from the audience and then she broke into a little song and dance about coming to OWN. Let`s watch.
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All right, Kelley. Look, I`ve got to give Rosie credit. She`s having a sense of humor about what happened on "The View." But nobody was laughing back then, if you remember. You heard her sing right there, "Oy vey. I hope I will survive. So my question to you is, will she?
KELLEY CARTER, ENTERTAINMENT JOURNALIST: I think she will survive and then some. I mean, it was so great to see Rosie back on television. We`ve really been hotly anticipating this for months.
And she really didn`t disappoint. I think in this debut show, she kind of reminded us that she is a full all-around performer and she did her thing. She`s great.
HAMMER: Yes. Yes. But here`s the thing, you know, and I was happy to see that Oprah had said that she wants Rosie to just be herself. And if Rosie lives up to that, I do think the show is going to work.
But I also need to point out, Rosie being herself also means she is not going to shy away from putting it all out there, and she has said that she won`t.
So Kelley, I have to wonder whether that could perhaps eventually backfire on her like it really seemed to do on "The View" four years ago.
CARTER: You know, I`m not sure if it will backfire on her because the thing is, if Rosie is herself, which means she`s going to speak out about things that she wants to speak out about, that`s only going to draw more attention to a network that, quite honestly, need as much attention as it can get.
You know, I think Rosie is going to be the shot in the arm the OWN network needed. And I think that, you know, she`s going to pay off and then some.
HAMMER: Let`s talk about that. And of course, she kicked it off with a big celebrity guest last night. Russell Brand was there. But the show really wouldn`t be complete on the first night out without a surprise appearance from Oprah.
There she comes. And now, the confetti will fall. No secret Oprah needs a hit show right now, Kelley, on the network. So if Rosie can`t make that happen, you`ve got to imagine Oprah is going to be pretty worried right about now.
CARTER: Yes. You know, but I think that looking at what the critics have said about this first show and looking at, quite frankly, what the audience and what viewers are saying about this show, Oprah is probably really happy, you know.
HAMMER: Yes.
CARTER: And if she can keep up kind of what she gave us in this first night, you know, for the rest of the season, then I think that Oprah`s going to be breathing pretty happily.
HAMMER: We will be watching closely. Kelley Carter, I thank you very much.
CARTER: Thanks for having me.
HAMMER: All right. Let`s move on right now to Casey Anthony and Amanda Knox. Now, these are obviously two women that people have visceral reactions to. So when SHOWBIZ TONIGHT dared to ask, "Is it wrong to compare their situations?" well, our Facebook page was overrun.
Listen to what Cindy D. writes, "Amanda was innocent from the very beginning. She was the victim of a judicial system that didn`t even care about the lack of evidence. Casey Anthony is clearly guilty. There`s a world of difference."
Wlepla writes, "I`m not sure on this one. I think she (Amanda) knows something. She may not have directly done it, but she`s not totally innocent either."
I would love for you to connect with me, join our debates on Facebook. We are ShowbizTonightHLN there. You can follow us @ShowbizTonight on Twitter. That`s where we have breaking entertainment news alerts. The "Showbiz on Call" phone lines are open 1-888-SBT-BUZZ. And my E-mail address -- showbiztonight@cnn.com.
Champagne and smackdown. Hey, it`s all in a day`s work for "The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills," right?
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Watch your (EXPLETIVE DELETED) mouth.
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HAMMER: The new wars, the new friendships and the big Beverly Hills drama. Housewife Kyle Richards right here tonight. I cannot wait for Kyle to tell me how Taylor Armstrong is coping now just two months after her husband`s suicide.
Also, Nicki Minaj making a heartbreaking confession about once wanting to take her own life. That is next. This is SHOWBIZ TONIGHT on HLN news and views.
Time now for the "SHOWBIZ News Ticker" -- these are more stories from the SHOWBIZ TONIGHT newsroom making news tonight.
TEXT: Amy Winehouse`s dad to write book about singer`s life, "Amy, My Daughter." SHOWBIZ first look: Trailer for "The Avengers" starring Robert Downey, Jr.
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UNIDENTIFIED ACTOR: Gentlemen --
UNIDENTIFIED ACTOR: What are you prepared to do?
ROBERT DOWNEY, JR., ACTOR: No offense but I don`t play well with others.
UNIDENTIFIED ACTOR: Big man in a suit of armor. Take that away. What are you?
DOWNEY: Genius billionaire playboy philanthropist.
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HAMMER: SHOWBIZ trending tonight. Wait for it. Wait for it. And there it is. Nailed by a wildebeest. Yes, that was a wildebeest.
This guy was riding a mountain bike competition in South Africa when that buck attacked. His teammate caught the whole thing on tape that you`re seeing.
The wildebeest weighs around 400 pounds, completely crushed the rider`s bike and his helmet. Somehow, he was just a little bruised. The buck is also all OK.
Very wild stuff. And I`m thinking you know that the guy who was hit said to his friend, "The buck clearly stops here."
Nicki Minaj is on top of the world tonight, but there are new details about why the world may never have known her extraordinary talent.
Also, you can welcome a `70s Hollywood icon into your home for your very own happy days.
And speaking of icons cheers from Cher at "Dancing with the Stars." The details now on "The Buzz Today."
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(voice-over) Cher cheers on Chaz. SHOWBIZ TONIGHT was right there as the legend that is Cher dropped by "Dancing with the Stars" Monday to support her son, Chaz.
Cher had tears in her eyes watching Chaz dance another round of the show. Chaz told SHOWBIZ TONIGHT his mom helped make the night unforgettable.
CHAZ BONO, CONTESTANT, "DANCING WITH THE STARS": It was so great to have her there and to have my whole family there supporting me. It was awesome.
Nicki Minaj`s shocking suicide confession. Everything hasn`t always been rosy for the "Pink Friday" singer. In a new interview with "Cosmopolitan" magazine, hip-hop star Nicki Minaj reveals that she contemplated suicide when her career stalled.
Minaj says, "It was just one dead end after another. At one point, I was like, what would happen if I just didn`t wake up? That`s how I felt, like maybe I should just take my life." The November issue of "Cosmopolitan" is on newsstands now.
Fonzi fans get ready to ride.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He starts it up.
HAMMER: Happy days are here again for any collector. The Fonz`s motorcycle from the iconic TV series will be auctioned in November. TMZ reports the 1949 Triumph Trophy TR-5 isn`t exactly in mint condition. The speedometer doesn`t work and the bike isn`t running. Still, the two- wheeler could bring in $90,000 from anyone who wants to sit on it.
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Now, the SHOWBIZ lineup. Here`s what`s coming up at the bottom of the hour on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT.
Demi Moore and Ashton Kutcher`s fiery camping trip. We`ve got new details tonight. Did Ashton beg for forgiveness? The SHOWBIZ Flashpoint -- will their marriage survive?
Kim`s happily every after. Tonight, what you didn`t see on Kim Kardashian`s TV wedding extravaganza. And you know, first comes love, then comes marriage. And Kim reveals when we can expect the baby carriage. This is SHOWBIZ TONIGHT on HLN news and views.
And this is the "SHOWBIZ News Ticker" -- these are more stories from the SHOWBIZ TONIGHT newsroom making news tonight.
TEXT: Actress Tori Spelling welcomes a baby girl! Adele leads 2011 AMA nominations with four nods, including artist of the year.
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HAMMER: Big news breaking tonight on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT -- Demi and Ashton`s campfire kumbaya? Did Ashton beg for forgiveness? Our SHOWBIZ Flashpoint -- will their marriage survive or is it lights out?
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Watch your (EXPLETIVE DELETED) mouth.
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It`s Brandi versus Kyle in a brand-new "Real Housewives of Beverly Hills" smackdown. Fighting wife, Kyle Richards, is right here tonight in a headline-making SHOWBIZ newsmaker interview. Tonight, the inside story on what that beef is really all about.
Kim K`s wedding secrets. Was Kim Kardashian a bride-zilla?
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KIM KARDASHIAN: It is so stressful planning a wedding. I had no idea. I wanted to kill everyone around me.
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HAMMER: The blowout wedding is over, so what are Kim and Kris planning next? Could a baby be on the way?
ANNOUNCER: TV`s most provocative entertainment news show continues right now.
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HAMMER: Welcome back to SHOWBIZ TONIGHT. It`s 30 minutes past the hour. I`m A.J. Hammer in New York. We`ve got big news breaking tonight -- camping with the Kutchers.
Yes, there were brand-new reports today that Ashton Kutcher begged -- begged his wife, Demi Moore, to forgive him following all those stories that he cheated on her.
In fact, new pictures surfaced today of Demi and Ashton at a camp fire on the Jewish holiday of Yom Kippur -- that is the symbolic day for atoning for your sins.
With me tonight from Hollywood, I`m so happy Kyle Richards is here. She has seen her fair share of marriage drama for sure on her hit reality show, "The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills." Great to see you, Kyle.
KYLE RICHARDS, REALITY TV STAR, "THE REAL HOUSEWIVES OF BEVERLY HILLS": Great to be here.
HAMMER: So let`s talk about this. The unconfirmed reports today said that Ashton is actually begging Demi Moore to put all this behind them.
Now, we saw those first photos of the reported campfire summit in Santa Barbara. They`re still not directly addressing all the reports that are out there that Ashton cheated.
Kyle, let me get your take on this. Do you think now is the time for both of them to simply set the record straight once and for all?
RICHARDS: Well, I hope he really did beg for forgiveness. And it`s Yom Kippur, so maybe she had it in her heart to forgive him for his sins. But I really, really want them to work it out.
I just so hope they make it as a couple. I think they`re a beautiful couple and it seems like her daughters are very attached to him. And I think we`re all rooting for them.
HAMMER: Yes, I agree with you. I think everybody`s rooting for them. And I think -- yes, it`s a time of atonement. Perhaps that is exactly what Ashton is doing. But again, until they address it flat out, we`re not really going to know.
They did reportedly leave the campfire summit together with their arms kind of around each other`s waist. So here`s our SHOWBIZ Flashpoint -- will their marriage survive or lights out?
Now, Kyle, I know you want them to stay together. I want them to stay together. But what do you think the reality will be when all the campfire dust settles?
RICHARDS: You know, I`ve seen them in person and they seem to be very in love with each other and warm and affectionate with each other.
I think that maybe they have a shot. Maybe he did make a mistake and he`s hoping for the best, but maybe I`m just a dreamer.
HAMMER: It`s OK to be a dreamer. That`s all right. I like that. Let`s talk to something perhaps a little closer to home for you.
One woman`s marriage, we know, broke up because her husband cheated. It`s Brandi Glanville who now stars with you on "The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills." Her ex, of course, is Eddie Cibrian who ran off, of course, with LeAnn Rimes. Have you been following along?
So last night on the show, this was pretty amazing to me, Kyle. You got into a big fight with Brandi. I want to watch that.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: OK. IQ test is up next. You first.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Perfect. Bring it.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: What?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Bring it, bitch.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Are you calling me a bitch?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes, kind of.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: IQ Test -- are you kidding? You first. OK, so you`re a bitch.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: She said, "IQ test. You first." Like blond first.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We`re all blond.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: And I dyed my hair.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I don`t mean to be rude, but you`re all blonds except me.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I said this 10 times earlier. I don`t like her. She`s not in my team. I don`t like it. It was very obvious and open what you said.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: About what?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Maybe you don`t remember because you`ve been in the bathroom too many times.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Excuse me.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Excuse me?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Excuse me what? How many times has she been in the bathroom tonight?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You know what?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You know what?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You have no clue what you`re talking about.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Watch it, bitch. You know that?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Bring it.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You are pathetic, OK.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I am?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes, you are.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Her sister is wasted out of her (EXPLETIVE DELETED) mind.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Watch your (EXPLETIVE DELETED) mouth! Watch your (EXPLETIVE DELETED) mouth!
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HAMMER: Wow. Excuse me. OK. So Brandi was mad because of this IQ test. I know you wanted to come on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT and set the record straight. Obviously, this happened many months ago when it was filmed. But what the heck was going on there?
RICHARDS: The IQ test was actually somebody jokingly said, "Let`s do the IQ test," and this came right after she has said Winston Churchill was a famous black man, so it was sort of like a joke.
But the whole night was ugly from beginning to end. It`s very, very difficult to watch. This is actually harder for me to watch than the finale of season one where I had a fight with my sister. Very difficult.
It`s just felt like "Mean Girls." I`m not a mean person and my sister Kim is not. So it`s very upsetting to watch.
HAMMER: So I watch this and I can`t imagine that the two of you have any kind of a friendship when I see you talking to each other that way. Are you guys really friends or are you closer than it might appear in this particular scene?
RICHARDS: Brandi and me?
HAMMER: Yes.
RICHARDS: I don`t know Brandi very well at all. I just knew her -- you know, we had just met recently when we were shooting this.
But you know what? I think I was very stressed out from the minute I walked in the door, to be honest. I was right in the midst of mending my relationship with my sister from a very big blowout we had at the season finale of season one.
HAMMER: Right.
RICHARDS: So at that point, you know, I know my sister made a joke about Brandi, which I didn`t realize she heard. But I think I really would have stood by my sister at that point no matter what she did or said because I just so wanted to get along with my sister and mend things with her.
HAMMER: OK. So I know you don`t know Brandi all that well. But one person I know you`re very close with on the show is Taylor Armstrong, of course. And wow, I mean, obviously, what an awful year it has been for her and her personal life.
Her ex, Russell, obviously killed himself. The show was already in the can when all that happened. Let`s take a look at Taylor talking with you about trying to work things out with Russell. Watch this.
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TAYLOR ARMSTRONG, REALITY TV STAR, "THE REAL HOUSEWIVES OF BEVERLY HILLS": I want so badly to make it work.
RICHARDS: I know you do. I know you have a child, but I don`t understand.
ARMSTRONG: I`m scared.
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HAMMER: So Kyle, there were reports that Taylor and her daughter moved in with your family after Russell`s suicide. First of all, are you able to confirm that? And what everybody really wants to know is, how are Taylor and her daughter doing now?
RICHARDS: Well, first of all, they did not move in with me. They actually would stay with me for sleepovers or, you know, for girls` night just while she was going through hard times.
They`re getting stronger every day. I know that she`s spending all of her time with Kennedy and just trying to be there for her as her mom and helping both of them get through this difficult time. But they are getting stronger.
HAMMER: Are you happy with how the show is portraying Taylor this season? There was a lot of concern going into it about how this was going to go.
RICHARDS: I think it has been a fairly accurate portrayal, yes. And you know, we have to remember this was shot six months ago.
HAMMER: Right.
RICHARDS: So you know, we didn`t know anything was going to happen in the following months.
HAMMER: Well, let`s talk about another one of your co-stars, Camille Grammer, who we know very well here at SHOWBIZ TONIGHT. She`s involved in a brand-new battle with her ex-husband, Kelsey Grammer.
I thought that was all going to quiet down. But today, we learned that Kelsey`s asking a judge to impose a gag order on Camille because Camille apparently allowed a paparazzo to ask their son a question on camera.
So Kelsey wants the judge to prohibit Camille from exposing their kids to the media in the future, sort of a strange thing when we`re talking about, you know, reality TV almost at the core of all this. Do you think, Kyle, that what he is doing is fair to Camille?
RICHARDS: Absolutely not. He walked out of, BOA, a restaurant on Sunset Boulevard, which is known to have, you know, tons of paparazzi outside, so that felt deliberate to me.
And I think this is his way of being controlling with her. She`s been, you know, not showing him on the show, barely at all. And you know, he chose to leave his family. He made his bed. Now, he`s got to lie in it.
HAMMER: Yes. I think that`s what a lot of people are feeling. And I appreciate your insight into all this. Kyle Richards, thank you so much. I appreciate you being here.
RICHARDS: Thanks so much.
HAMMER: And you can catch Kyle on "The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills" on Bravo Monday night.
As we move on tonight, Kim Kardashian wedding secrets revealed. In fact, I`ve got one of her best friends right here on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT to tell us about what you didn`t see on TV.
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KIM KARDASHIAN: It is so stressful planning a wedding. I had no idea. I wanted to kill everyone around me.
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HAMMER: So what is next for Kim and Kris after their blowout wedding?
Kenny Loggins comeback? I love Kenny Loggins. He was a soundtrack machine in the `80s. You remember "Footloose," "Top Gun`s" "Danger Zone"? Well, now Kenny is back in the game, sort of.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What the hell was that?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: "Girl with the Dragon Tattoo."
(SINGING)
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Come on!
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HAMMER: Perfect. Is Kenny for real? We`re going to tell you what`s going on here, coming up. This is SHOWBIZ TONIGHT on HLN news and views.
Time now for the "SHOWBIZ News Ticker" -- more stories from the SHOWBIZ TONIGHT newsroom making news tonight.
TEXT: Taylor Swift named Billboard woman of the year. Mary Elizabeth Winstead explains why "The Thing" is relevant today.
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MARY ELIZABETH WINSTEAD, ACTRESS: I think, you know, in the original, there were sort of themes on the Cold War. And with the `80s version, people felt like, you know, there were things about AIDS being brought up on some level.
And I think even now, it`s sort of relevant as far as what`s going on in the world and feeling unsettled about things, not feeling comfortable where we are.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It`s a delight to present for the very first time, Mr. and Mrs. Kris Humphries.
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HAMMER: It`s the very first look at the romance and the magic of the Kardashian wedding just revealed in a special on "E." It has been six weeks since Kim and Kris married. What`s next?
Are there babies in their future? Well, tonight, SHOWBIZ TONIGHT goes looking for answers to our burning questions with someone who knows Kim oh so well.
Welcome back to SHOWBIZ TONIGHT. I`m A.J. Hammer in New York. And tonight, the Kardashian insider.
Let there be no doubt that there seems to be an insatiable appetite for all things Kim Kardashian. SHOWBIZ TONIGHT learned today that a wedding special on "E" was the top-rated show on all of cable on Sunday night.
Check it out. More than four million viewers tuned in for this thing. So who better to give brand-new insight into her life, her love and her future than her dear friend, Robin Antin, who founded the Pussycat Dolls.
Robin`s got this terrific workout DVD -- it`s called "Pussycat Dolls` Dancer`s Body" workout DVD. Robin`s also working with Kim on a new reality show on the Pussycat Dolls. And she joins me from Hollywood tonight for a SHOWBIZ newsmaker interview. Great to see you, Robin.
ROBIN ANTIN, FOUNDER, PUSSYCAT DOLLS: Nice to see you. Thank you so much for having me.
HAMMER: Oh, absolutely. Our pleasure. Let`s get into it, because I know you`ve known Kim for a really long time. I know she`s the executive producer of your upcoming reality show on the Pussycat Dolls.
ANTIN: Yes.
HAMMER: Can`t wait for that. You were right there at Kim`s wedding. You had the front-row seat. Is there any way, Robin, that what we saw on TV just this weekend even begins to do justice to what it was actually like to be there?
ANTIN: Well, I mean, the truth is really -- it is a very stressful time to prepare and plan a wedding. You know, I mean, that`s why everyone saw that firsthand that Kim was stressed.
And it was -- it`s like planning a production, you know what I mean? You know, she is just the kind of person that she wants to make everyone happy. She wants her friends and her family and she wants everything to be perfect.
And obviously, that`s why, you know, she`s so successful with her show because it`s the same thing with her show. But this was, you know, the biggest day of her life.
And I watched her go through all of the planning. And you know, she`s just -- I mean, it really was -- everything was real, you know. It is -- you know, what you see on TV is real. And it was her big day, you know.
HAMMER: Yes.
ANTIN: And we were all on excited to be there. I mean it really was so much fun. I had the best time.
HAMMER: Even with all the drama, it did look like there was a lot of fun being had. And of course, Kim is probably planning a perfect future right about now, because, you know, Robin, what they say, first comes the love, then comes marriage, then comes a little Kim or Kris in the baby carriage, right?
And for the very first time, Kim has just revealed her thoughts about plans to have a baby with Kris Humphries. And quite frankly, I was surprised to hear it may not be too long of a wait. Let`s watch what Kim told Hoda Kotb on NBC`s "Today" show about starting a family.
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KIM KARDASHIAN: We don`t know where he`s going to end up signing with another team.
HODA KOTB, CO-HOST, THE "TODAY" SHOW: OK.
KIM KARDASHIAN: So we just want to wait about a year before we start trying.
KOTB: Now, you wouldn`t like move to --
KIM KARDASHIAN: Just until we figure it out.
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HAMMER: All right. Robin, you know all the sides of Kim Kardashian and Kris. It has got to be hard enough being a newly-married couple in the spotlight. But how do you think it will be for Kim and Kris when they have a child? I mean, we see the ferocious interest in this.
ANTIN: Well, I mean, obviously, that`s what everyone wants. And you know, she has a major career and he has a major career, so I think that`s exactly what she was just saying, you know, that, they -- that they do need to wait and that they have so much life really in front of them. But you know, that`s really -- that`s honestly all I know.
HAMMER: OK.
ANTIN: That it`s not going to happen right this second.
HAMMER: OK. I know if you knew more, you would tell us. A lot of -- look, we all loved watching the wedding and it all played out before our very eyes.
Some people were actually a bit critical though of all the tension and the drama you were talking about that was building up to Kim`s big day. In fact, let`s watch what Wendy Williams just said on her show about that.
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WENDY WILLIAMS, HOST, "THE WENDY WILLIAMS SHOW": So I`m watching the Kardashians. You guys, there`s so much fighting going on. I wasn`t sure there was going to be a wedding.
There was so much fighting going on. I was so disgusted. Kim, this wedding has pulled out the worst part of you.
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HAMMER: OK. Wendy being a little harsh there, but Kim firing back today. She said on Rachael Ray`s show, "Hey, you know what? I was under a lot of stress." Let`s look at that.
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KIM KARDASHIAN: It is so stressful planning a wedding. I had no idea. I wanted to kill everyone around me.
RACHAEL RAY, HOST, "THE RACHAEL RAY SHOW": You were a bit of a bride- zilla?
KIM KARDASHIAN: I wasn`t. I wasn`t. Just for one week, I was like -- I have such respect for Sharon Sacks, who was my wedding planner. I don`t know how she does it.
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HAMMER: Yes. So to your point, Robin, weddings are stressful without all the cameras are there. Do you think that people need to cut your buddy, Kim, some slack?
ANTIN: Oh, I absolutely think so, because, you know, the truth is, I mean, you know, her life is -- it`s crazy. You know, she walks outside and there`s five million paparazzi following her.
And she`s so nice to everyone. I mean, I have never seen her get crazy or stressed at all. And this was really the one moment where she just went, like, "I can`t take it!" You know, but I`ve seen friends of mine who have planned weddings.
I am not married and I have not planned a wedding but I`ve been through it with friends and I`ve even it all happening. And you know, I can imagine it must the most intense -- and it causes maybe some arguments in the family and I`m thinking that`s what everyone saw.
HAMMER: Robin, I understand you have big news breaking to share with us about a new Pussycat Doll that you`re casting for your reality show. Please, do tell.
ANTIN: Well, I saw Kristin Cavallari dancing on "Dancing with the Stars." I thought she was absolutely incredible. So of course, I`m a Pussycat Doll. I thought, "Wow, she`d be perfect for me and my dolls." And she got cut, and sure enough, I asked her to be a guest Pussycat Doll and she is going to be at the Pussycat Dolls Burlesque Saloon in Las Vegas at the beginning of December.
HAMMER: Huge. Perfect choice. I think she`s going to be terrific.
ANTIN: I`m excited.
HAMMER: Robin Antin, great to see you.
ANTIN: Yes.
HAMMER: Thank you so much.
ANTIN: Thank you so much.
HAMMER: And be sure to pick up Robin`s brand-new DVD. It`s a workout DVD and it`s called "Pussycat Dolls Dancer`s Body" workout DVD. It is fantastic.
Moving on now to Kenny Loggins. You know, he practically wrote the soundtrack to the `80s, right? And now, he`s doing this?
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What the hell was that?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: "Girl with the Dragon Tattoo."
(SINGING)
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Come on!
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HAMMER: Could this be Kenny`s big comeback? I`ll reveal all the details, coming up next.
And now, the SHOWBIZ buzz list. Here`s what the SHOWBIZ TONIGHT staff is going to be buzzing about all week.
"Bored to Death." Our favorite slackers are back on HBO for a brand- new season.
And it`s about time for this. Facebook releases its iPad app. The world`s most popular social network now available on almost any device with a mobile browser.
Old country darling Ryan Adams has a new album out. Yes, I love this guy. The album is called "Ashes and Fire." I cannot get enough of its sweet pop sound.
We are loving bestselling author Paulo Coelho`s new book, "Aleph" about spiritual discovery.
And get ready for some buzz for Queen B. Beyonce brand-new video drops this week. She`s already putting "Love on Top."
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HAMMER: Yes. Kevin Bacon kicking off his Sunday shoes in the original "Footloose" and Kenny Loggins singing his hit from the movie soundtrack. The much-anticipated reboot of the `80s cult classic opens this weekend.
It really felt like Kenny Loggins was just a soundtrack machine back in the 1980s. You`ve got "Danger Zone" from "Top Gun" and "Caddy Shack`s" "I`m All Right," among many others.
But get this, the "Footloose" reboot is scrapping Kenny`s original theme song for a remake by "The Voice" judge, Blake Shelton.
And quite frankly, that`s got the folks over at the hilarious Web site "Funny or Die" really thinking about Kenny. So they teamed up with a guest who might be able to crank out for today`s biggest movies. Watch this.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: There was something missing from that. Mullets. You all need to be wearing mullets.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Shazam! What the hell is that?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: "Girl with the Dragon Tattoo."
(SINGING)
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Come on! We need to step it up. We need to give it some gopher action.
(SINGING)
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Why you got to give me a fight, Kenny? Come on, let`s do this.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No (EXPLETIVE DELETED) way.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Kenny -- language. Look, I get it. You want to go softer. Let`s go acoustic. Bam!
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HAMMER: You`ve got to love Kenny for having a great sense of humor about it all. The first concert I ever saw, Kenny Loggins. It`s true.
Moving on now to Rihanna`s naked truth, the pop star revealing everything in the new issue of "Esquire." I`m not just talking about shedding her clothes. That`s next.
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HAMMER: Rihanna, exposed. She sheds her clothes for the November cover of "Esquire" magazine. But even more revealing -- her feelings about her ex, Chris Brown.
More than two years after being brutally beaten by Chris. Rihanna says she`s excited about his career. This surprised me.
But here`s what she tells "Esquire," "I had some resentment for a while, for obvious reasons, but I put that behind me. It was taking up too much of my time. It was too much anger. I`m really excited to see the breakthrough he`s had in his career. I`m a fan of his stuff."
She`s evolved, that Rihanna. Good for her.
That is it for SHOWBIZ TONIGHT. Thank you for watching. I`m A.J. Hammer in New York. You can catch SHOWBIZ TONIGHT exclusively Sunday to Friday at 11:00 p.m. Eastern and Pacific right here on HLN.
And stay right here for "DR. DREW," coming up next. Tonight, a close friend of the Jackson family reveals their anguish over the Conrad Murray trial. "DR. DREW" on HLN starts right now.
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