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Kim Kardashian and Kris Humphries Split?; Demi and Ashton Updates; Exclusive Interview with Rosie O`Donnell; Janet Jackson`s Startling Move; "Two and a Half" Slams from Charlie Sheen
Aired October 24, 2011 - 23:00 ET
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A.J. HAMMER, HOST: Big news breaking tonight on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT - are they or aren`t they? Tonight, Kim Kardashian and Kris Humphries - is it really splitsville barely two months after their mega-million dollar wedding?
SHOWBIZ TONIGHT with the brand-new pictures revealed today as Kim and Kris try to prove all is well in Humphries` homestead.
Demi and Ashton. Brand-new video today of Ashton flashing his wedding ring just days after another video of him without the ring.
A SHOWBIZ TONIGHT exclusive - Rosie`s secrets about her love life with her new girlfriend.
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ROSIE O`DONNELL, TV HOST: I`m bringing sexy back. You know what? She`s really lovely and she`s gorgeous.
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HAMMER: SHOWBIZ TONIGHT exclusively with Rosie in Chicago tonight.
Janet Jackson`s startling move. Why in the world did she fly halfway around the world today rushing back to the trial of Dr. Conrad Murray?
TV`s most provocative entertainment news show breaks news right now.
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Hello. I`m A.J. Hammer in New York with big news breaking tonight - are they or aren`t they?
Are Kim Kardashian and Kris Humphries still enjoying that feeling of newlywed bliss? Or is there already trouble in paradise just a couple of months after their over-the-top, made-for-TV multimillion dollar wedding?
Well, SHOWBIZ TONIGHT can tell you Kim and Kris are now doing everything possible to put an end to all of those wild reports that their marriage is on the rocks.
And today, new pictures have surfaced of Kim and Kris looking all lovey-dovey as Kim just celebrated her 31st birthday at a not-so-secret party in Las Vegas. Tonight, SHOWBIZ TONIGHT is keeping up with the Kardashian craziness.
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(voice-over) Kim Kardashian moves out. Or is it Kris who`s moving out? Celebrity news sites are having a field day with reports of trouble in the two-month-old marriage of Kim Kardashian and Kris Humphries.
And now, Kim and Kris are battling the reports of marriage troubles. Did they go to marriage counseling? No. They went to Vegas. Kim Kardashian and her hubby threw a big bash at the Las Vegas nightclub, Marquee, to celebrate Kim`s 31st birthday.
There were smiles. There were drinks. There was cake. And best of all, today there were headlines and pictures about the happy couple. Take that, stupid divorce reports.
NINA PARKER, ENTERTAINMENT JOURNALIST: I think maybe there was a little bit extra, you know, smiling and hugs and, you know, drinks flowing a little bit extra just to kind of show everybody, "Look, I`m fine.
HAMMER: Well, not to be a Vegas buzz kill, but Kim and Kris` smiley, happy Vegas adventure was more than just a birthday show of marital bliss. In all likelihood, Kim was working.
JO PIAZZA, ENTERTAINMENT JOURNALIST: Kim doesn`t go to clubs. She doesn`t party unless she`s getting paid to be there.
HAMMER: Jo Piazza is the author of "Celebrity, Inc.: How Famous People Make Money." She tells SHOWBIZ TONIGHT Kim Kardashian routinely gets paid to party at clubs run by owners of Marquee, the site of this weekend`s birthday bash. So this happy display could have just been a contractual obligation.
PIAZZA: We can`t imagine that Kim is doing any of this birthday partying for free.
HAMMER: Not that Kim isn`t annoyed by the breakup reports.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Marriage in crisis.
HAMMER: Co-hosting the late edition of the "Today" show Kim scoffed at tabloid reports of marital issues.
KIM KARDASHIAN, REALITY TV STAR, "KEEPING UP WITH THE KARDASHIANS": It`s like my marriage is in crisis because I`m not wearing my ring at the gym.
HAMMER: But even if the tabloid chatter is bogus, the newlyweds might be bringing this on themselves.
KIM KARDASHIAN: Every last thing annoys me.
HAMMER: On Kim`s reality show on "E," Kim and Kris aren`t shy about playing up the relationship drama for the camera.
KRIS HUMPHRIES, NBA STAR: At this point, I feel like I`m not even getting married and I just don`t care.
HAMMER: After all, no one is running to watch a show about, say, William H. Macy and Felicity Huffman`s stable longtime marriage.
Kim realizes that marital drama sells on reality shows. So she can`t be surprised tabloids are mining the same storyline for their own benefit.
PARKER: The Kardashians - they know how to stay in the news.
HAMMER: So it seems Kim and Kris might be escaping reports of marital drama, reports that they may have indirectly stirred up themselves by attending a ritzy party that she likely got paid to attend. Sure beats marriage counseling.
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HAMMER: "Friends and Family Concerned." "Headed for a Split." I mean, these are the bold, big headlines all about Kim and Kris` reported marriage catastrophe.
So are they or aren`t they in trouble? All the white-hot speculation leads to our SHOWBIZ Flashpoint - is it even conceivable Kim and Kris` marriage could already be over?
Right now in New York, Megan Alexander, who is a correspondent for "Inside Edition."
And Megan, I want to get right to our SHOWBIZ Flashpoint - is it even conceivable that their marriage is already over? They`ve just been married for, you know, just about two months at this point.
MEGAN ALEXANDER, CORRESPONDENT, "INSIDE EDITION": Yes, everything is conceivable in the Kardashian universe. A.J., you`ve got to hand it to this family. It is one big soap opera that just continues.
And at the end of that story, you mentioned marriage counseling. Can you imagine the marriage counselor, if they had premarital counseling, where they`re talking about their relationship and Kim says, "Now, just keep in mind, every other week, there`s going to be a different headline about our relationship. And Kris, you`re just going to need to roll with it. Are you OK with that?"
I`m not even sure how this relationship functions. But to be a fly on the wall and know what`s really going on when the cameras are turned off, I would assume that they must be OK and this is just their reality.
HAMMER: I`m thinking if they were in marriage counseling, the cameras would be there.
ALEXANDER: That`s a good point.
HAMMER: They are the Kardashians.
ALEXANDER: Very, very good point.
HAMMER: Let`s go to Maggie Furlong from Hollywood, the west coast editor of AOL TV. Maggie, what do you think on our SHOWBIZ Flashpoint? Could Kim and Kris` marriage actually already be over?
MAGGIE FURLONG, WEST COAST EDITOR, AOL TV: How do we know the cameras aren`t in therapy with them? We have to wait to see the next season.
In all honesty, watching that marriage special, you kind of had to take a step back. You know, when Kim was saying, "I don`t know if I`m going to change my last name," and then she was crying about not having her dad there to walk her down the aisle.
Kris was legitimately like, "Why aren`t you talking to me about this stuff. This is crazy." He signed up for it. She signed up for it.
But I have to say a fairytale wedding and what happens afterward isn`t that exciting. We want drama, so maybe this is drumming up to pump the next season.
HAMMER: Yes, but let`s make no mistake about it. All the publicity they have gotten from the marriage has really helped the Kardashian business empire grow into even more of a behemoth than it already was. They pegged the launch of their new line at Sears to the wedding.
I can tell you there`s more big news breaking in "are they are or aren`t they" celebrity marriage department. Mariah Carey and Nick Cannon just did their very first interview together since they had these beautiful twins.
Can we put up these brand-new pictures of the twins, please? The question is, is there trouble in paradise? What really got our attention at SHOWBIZ TONIGHT was Barbara Walters interviewing the two of them on "20/20." Watch how this played out.
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MARIAH CAREY, SINGER: I`m just happy to be in love and to be here.
BARBARA WALTERS, TV JOURNALIST: You told me that you were afraid that you could never trust anyone again. Do you trust him?
CAREY: Sometimes.
WALTERS: Oh? Wait a minute.
NICK CANNON, MARIAH CAREY`S HUSBAND: Sometimes?
CAREY: Can I trust you more than sometimes? You tell me.
CANNON: Absolutely.
CAREY: OK. Then I trust him.
WALTERS: Are you happy together?
CANNON: Absolutely.
CAREY: We are, especially when he`s nice. When he`s nice, he`s the best guy in the world.
WALTERS: Other times he`s not nice?
CAREY: You know, he`s a man, Barbara.
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HAMMER: All right. Did Mariah just say that Nick is only nice some of the time? And you saw Nick had that weird kind of laugh. And she says she trusts him sometimes.
I`m actually kind of surprised she went there in front of the cameras. Maybe she was joking around a little bit. But Maggie, tell me, did it give you kind of the impression as it did me that they have some serious communication issues to deal with? And I love both of these guys. I was just surprised by it.
FURLONG: Oh, my god. I mean, the fact she says that - let`s be real. Mariah is nothing if not honest and a little bit crazy anytime she`s on camera. She`s had her fair share of on-camera meltdowns.
Maybe this was just something she said to be funny and it didn`t actually come out as funny. But that was seriously awkward.
HAMMER: Yes.
FURLONG: If she only trusts him sometimes and is still having trust issues from her marriage from over a decade ago, she needs to be in therapy if they`re (UNINTELLIGIBLE).
HAMMER: I think they had a follow-up conversation or two about that. But there`s more big "are they, aren`t they" news that we have to talk about.
SHOWBIZ TONIGHT revealing Ashton Kutcher and Demi Moore together in public for the first time in more than a week they reportedly went to Kabbalah counseling.
But whatever is happening with their marriage, Ashton`s wedding ring status is definitely on again, off again. Now, when Ashton posted a video online last Friday, he was waxing poetic on truth and the media.
And the blogosphere goes nuts over the fact that he wasn`t wearing his wedding ring. Now, on Sunday, he posted another picture that practically begged for the caption, "Hey, look, I`m wearing my wedding ring."
I say enough already. Ashton, Demi, just put out a little statement and say a little something, say that flat-out everything is all right or that you`re working on stuff. Send the speculators off on their merry way. Stop playing ring games. Megan, am I so wrong with that?
ALEXANDER: No, you`re completely right. And look, I was sort pulled into Ashton`s discussion on truth and media. I was thinking I was back in college and it was a great discussion.
But then, I realized, well, you have an opportunity right now to tell us the truth. Use your medium of media, whether it be Twitter, Facebook, whatever.
And tell us - you know, slam out those rumors if you want to. He has an opportunity to. He`s continuing this vicious cycle, like keeping us in the dark.
HAMMER: It`s true. And again, I say it over and over. I don`t think anybody has an obligation to tell the public anything unless they`re ready to accept the noise will continue, the rumors will continue to circulate.
ALEXANDER: That`s true. That`s right.
HAMMER: It can`t hurt to just say, "Hey, here`s the deal." And put it as plainly or simply as you want to. But it might not hurt at this point to say something. Meagan, Maggie, thank you both.
We move from relationship implosions to Rosie`s romance. This is a SHOWBIZ TONIGHT exclusive you can`t miss. Tonight, Rosie O`Donnell`s secrets - she`s getting her sexy back with a new girlfriend. And she tells us why everything has led up to this time in her life.
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O`DONNELL: I am very happy. It took 49 years to get here, but I`m very, very happy.
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HAMMER: SHOWBIZ TONIGHT right there in Chicago with Rosie tonight.
Janet Jackson`s startling journey. Janet flying halfway around the world to return to court for the trial of Dr. Conrad Murray. And there`s international fallout from her sudden move. Could it influence the jury?
A huge beast of a guy with a tattoo right there on his face completely melts down because he`s petrified of pit bulls.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Oh, hell. (EXPLETIVE DELETED).
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Hey, hey, Marvin. Marvin, stay with me.
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HAMMER: It`s the "did you see this" moment you can`t miss. This is SHOWBIZ TONIGHT on HLN news and views.
Time now for the "SHOWBIZ News Ticker" - more stories from the SHOWBIZ TONIGHT newsroom making news tonight.
TEXT: John Mayer writes on Tumblr that he`s resting after vocal cord surgery. Will Ferrell talks to SHOWBIZ about winning Mark Twain prize for humor.
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WILL FERRELL, ACTOR AND COMEDIAN: It means a lot. It`s so nice because when you think about it, this is truly only the kind of - the only legitimate award that recognizes comedy.
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HAMMER: Welcome back to SHOWBIZ TONIGHT. I`m A.J. Hammer in New York. Tonight, breaking SHOWBIZ news in the Michael Jackson death trial.
So the prosecution rests its case. And in a stunning turn of events, Janet Jackson is suddenly postponing her Australian tour to be with the rest of the Jackson family at the trial.
SHOWBIZ TONIGHT was right there at the courthouse today where Michael Jackson`s family sat front and center as the very last witness for the prosecution took the stand and defense lawyers geared up to present their case to the jury for the very first time.
I bring in Jane Velez-Mitchell, host, of course, of "ISSUES WITH JANE VELEZ-MITCHELL" right here on HLN. Jane, joining me tonight from Los Angeles just outside the courthouse.
Jane, Janet Jackson really shocked her fans when she broke the news that she could not go on with her performances in Australia as long as this trial was going on.
In a newly released statement, Jackson explained to her supporters how and why she came to really what was a difficult decision for her.
She said, "When I planned these shows, the schedule in California was completely different. After talking with my family last night, I decided we must be together right now. This saddens me in so many ways."
Let`s put up a look at the courthouse scene today. And this is what we were used to throughout the trial - seeing Michael Jackson`s parents, sisters, brothers, faithfully arriving at the courthouse, enduring every detail of those dramatic moments leading to his death.
This takes us to our SHOWBIZ Flashpoint - do you believe the Jackson family presence could influence this jury? Jane, what do you think?
JANE VELEZ-MITCHELL, HOST, "ISSUES WITH JANE VELEZ-MITCHELL": Well, absolutely. I can just imagine that phone call, "Get back here, Janet. The defense case is starting." Because there is speculation the defense is going to try to put the victim, Michael Jackson, on trial.
And it will be a lot harder to do that with the world-famous Janet Jackson sitting there in the gallery reacting. And the jury is going to pick up on that. So absolutely, the most important time for Janet Jackson to be inside that courtroom is right now.
HAMMER: Yes, and word I`ve heard from inside that courtroom is even though the jurors aren`t supposed to take into account anything that`s going on other than the trial itself, they`re looking at Janet. They`re looking at the family members, checking out their reaction.
And, yes, as you said, really important today as the defense began to try to convince the jurors of reasonable doubt.
Now, Jane, we`ve seen their theories change since the opening statements. And as this trial has worn on, I have really seen it as an uphill battle for Murray`s defense team. Now that the state has rested and the defense is on, Jane, is that how you see it as well?
VELEZ-MITCHELL: Never predict the outcome of a trial until the verdict comes in. I mean, how many high-profile cases have we sat through where everybody said, "Oh, this is great for the prosecution," and then the defendant is acquitted on all counts or all serious counts?
It happened with the Michael Jackson child molestation trial. I happened with the Casey Anthony case. We see it time and time again.
Of course, it feels like very strong for the prosecution now because they just wrapped up their case. We`ve got to see what the defense does.
HAMMER: And they`re really going to have to come to play some hardball, though, because a lot of people are saying, even if we can`t call it until the bitter end, it still does seem like an uphill climb based on everything we have seen so far.
Jane Velez-Mitchell, always great to see you. Thank you so much for your incredible coverage. HLN and SHOWBIZ TONIGHT is covering this trial like no one else. Everyone on HLN is a part of this. Justice for Michael. Make sure you stay with SHOWBIZ TONIGHT and HLN for the very latest in the Michael Jackson death trial.
As we move on tonight, you know, all of this Demi Moore, Ashton Kutcher splits talk has people on our "Showbiz on Call" phone lines talking conspiracy.
Yes, I`m telling the truth here. Some people really think the couple`s real life relationship drama is all a way to drum up viewers for Ashton`s TV comedy. We`ve got this call in from Carol in Alaska. Listen to her.
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CAROL, CALLER FROM ALASKA: I think all they have to do about Ashton Kutcher`s marriage is just publicity to drum up interest in his taking over Charlie Sheen`s place, specifically because his character is pretty lame on the show.
Like it or not, no matter how else he behaves, Charlie Sheen is the "Two and a Half Men" character that we all want to see more.
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HAMMER: Thank you, Carol. Now, Paula from Kentucky gets right to the point.
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PAULA, CALLER FROM KENTUCKY: Ashton Kutcher better straighten up, hold on to Demi because he`s sure not very good on "Two and a Half Men."
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HAMMER: All right, Paula. I appreciate your call. What do you think? Let us know at "Showbiz on Call." Sound off on this. Sound off on anything.
The "Showbiz on Call" phone lines are always open. The number is 1- 888-SBT-BUZZ; 1-888-728-2899. Please leave us a voicemail. We`d love to play your call here on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT.
Coming up next, I cannot wait to show this to you. It`s a SHOWBIZ viral video mystery. You`ve got to get in on this. An incredible audition tape has just surfaced. It features one of the most gorgeous actresses from the planet when she was just 11 years old.
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UNIDENTIFIED ACTOR: Would you forget about the stupid game? Close it up and put it away.
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HAMMER: I couldn`t tell who that was the first time I saw it. Can you? I will tell you, and I`ll tell you about the big role that she didn`t get because of that audition.
And we have J-Lo`s look-alikes tonight. Jennifer Lopez sings about her lost loves with look-alikes of those guys on stage with her - Diddy, Chris Judd? But why did it make J-Lo cry? This is SHOWBIZ TONIGHT on HLN news and views.
Time now for the "SHOWBIZ News Ticker" - more stories from the SHOWBIZ TONIGHT newsroom making news tonight.
TEXT: "Jersey Shore" house being offered for rent for $2,500 per night. Conan O`Brien tells SHOWBIZ why he loves Mark Twain prize winner, Will Ferrell.
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CONAN O`BRIEN, COMEDIAN: I was under the impression I was getting the award, so this was a bit of a letdown. But I`m thrilled for Will after my initial disappointment.
I was trying to think who else would get me 3,000 miles across the country on a workweek, you know. And it`s Will. Will is the funniest guy I know. And so - and all of us are turning out in droves to support him.
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UNIDENTIFIED ACTOR: Twenty-six years later, Peter and Judy Shepherd are about to play the same game and make an incredible discovery of their own.
KIRSTEN DUNST, ACTRESS: Are you -
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HAMMER: That`s 13-year-old Kirsten Dunst in "Jumanji" back in 1995. That movie, of course, really helped her to become the amazing actress she is today.
But tonight, the audition video of the young actress that didn`t get the role has gone viral. I can tell you that actress hasn`t done too bad for herself either.
Tonight, you have got to see this vintage video of the girl who grew up to become one of the most beautiful and most talented women in Hollywood.
Well, the 11-year-old actress who got passed over definitely shows her star power in this viral video and she grew up to be a movie star, a musician. She won a Tony for her work on Broadway.
All right. I`m not going to delay it any further. Let me get to it. The young star is Scarlett Johansson. You`ve got to see her adorable audition in this SHOWBIZ viral video.
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SCARLETT JOHANSSON, ACTRESS: I`ve got $67.08.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: That will get you to New York. Where are you going to go after that?
JOHANSSON: Someplace where I don`t have to go to the moron school. Would you forget about the stupid game? Now, close it up and put it away. Must have microchips in it or something.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: This mosquito`s got the fever itch though.
JOHANSSON: At first, she will, but everybody will be better off this way. Find the suitcases. Where did you see them last?
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HAMMER: Well, it all worked out for Scarlett and Kirsten, of course. And really, for me, the best part of all, they didn`t suffer the crippling pitfalls of child stardom that we see so often.
And we move from former child stars to a little girl who`s becoming a star on YouTube. A soldier, who`s overseas, didn`t want to miss bedtime with his two-year-old daughter so he recorded a story for her.
You`ve got to watch what happened because it is a very beyond-cute SHOWBIZ viral video.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE CHILD: Daddy.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Eat dinner. Don`t forget to wash up.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE CHILD: Yes, Daddy.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: When the evening comes, there`s not a peep. Mickey counts his sleeping sheep. Can I have a hug? Mwah!
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE CHILD: Thank you.
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HAMMER: Unbelievable. How unbelievably cute is that? Amazing. All right. Time for the SHOWBIZ lineup - here`s what`s coming up at the bottom of the hour on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT.
SHOWBIZ TONIGHT reveals the secrets of the new reality show that shows you how to buy luxury duds at a bargain price.
And "Two and a Half" slams. Charlie Sheen running off at the mouth about Ashton Kutcher on "Two and a Half Men." So does Charlie really think the role is cursed? This is SHOWBIZ TONIGHT on HLN news and views.
Here`s the "SHOWBIZ News Ticker" - more stories from the SHOWBIZ TONIGHT newsroom making news tonight.
TEXT: Comedian and actress, Aisha Tyler, joins "The Talk." Survey: Jennifer Aniston and Will Smith have hottest bodies in Hollywood.
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HAMMER: Big news breaking tonight on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT - it`s a SHOWBIZ Rosie O`Donnell exclusive. Rosie sits down with SHOWBIZ TONIGHT, really opens up about everything from her new show to a new love.
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O`DONNELL: I am very happy. It took 49 years to get here, but I`m very, very happy.
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HAMMER: Tonight, Rosie O`Donnell`s big revelations working with Oprah. And why she`s happier than ever.
SHOWBIZ reality secrets revealed. Tonight the new reality show that will help you buy luxury duds for a bargain price. The fashion hunters.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What did you pay for these?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: OK. So I paid $5.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: What?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: That one was $10.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I`m going to die.
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HAMMER: The fashion hunters right here with their biggest reality secrets in a must-see SHOWBIZ newsmaker interview.
J-Lo`s breakdown. Her brand-new performance with look-alikes of her exes. So why did she cry? Tonight, inside her tearful breakdown.
TV`s most provocative entertainment news show continues right now.
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Welcome back to SHOWBIZ TONIGHT. It`s 30 minutes past the hour. I`m A.J. Hammer in New York with big news breaking today - it`s our SHOWBIZ exclusive with Rosie O`Donnell.
The talk show host has two weeks of "The Rosie Show" under her belt now, so we decided to fly out to the Harpo studios in Chicago to find out just how Rosie is doing. And she tells us it has been a long journey to get her show up and running.
And she reveals Oprah has been with her every step of the way. So tonight in our SHOWBIZ exclusive with Rosie, she opens up about everything, from her secret meetings with Oprah, the pressure that she`s under to make this show a hit and finding happiness with her brand-new girlfriend.
Here`s SHOWBIZ TONIGHT`s Kareen Wynter with the SHOWBIZ Rosie O`Donnell exclusive.
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KAREEN WYNTER, SHOWBIZ TONIGHT CORRESPONDENT: The critics have weighed in. The reviews have been great. They said the show - they described it as a ton of fun, that it`s kind of an impromptu style. You never know what you`re going to get. It`s unexpected. Was this your vision coming into this?
O`DONNELL: Hi, everybody. Oprah and I spoke. She said, "Rosie, trust your instincts. You know what to do. Do what you want to do." And this is what we came up with.
Alex Mallory. Yes, Sheila?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The Keatons(ph)!
WYNTER: You don`t want anything scripted.
O`DONNELL: No.
WYNTER: You want it to be as organic as possible.
O`DONNELL: Yes. I don`t want to say what often happens on talk shows, and it`s no one`s fault. It`s how they were designed. And when I did mine, we did this, too, in the day.
But there are so many shows now like mine. You know, when I came on the air and said I was going to do Merv Griffin and everyone said it will never work. It was at the time of the Jenny Jones, Jerry Springer, punching Geraldo.
They said it would never work and it worked. So then, there have been a lot of shows like it since, right? So what happens when you get a celebrity coming in to promote a movie is they get four or five stock stories and they tell them on every show.
And it`s not the celebrity`s fault. It`s because when you have a movie coming out, you have to do seven or ten shows. And you`re not a comedian, and you`re not necessarily naturally funny. You`re an actor.
So you sit down and you hear the person say the story on Letterman, and then Regis on and then on Ellen and then on - so I thought, how can we change it?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: What`s the craziest thing you`ve ever worn?
O`DONNELL: I`m wearing it now. And it`s a t-shirt dress that really is a top that I`m very self-conscious of. Try not to look downtown. OK.
WYNTER: So your show doesn`t follow that cookie-cutter style. How would you rate things so far? What has Oprah said to you?
O`DONNELL: She`s been unbelievably kind from day one. She has been even more generous than I knew she already was. I knew when she offered me the show, that was a pretty courageous, bold, brave and, for me, personally, inspiring move.
I was about to sign with NBC and she flew to my house. And we had a four-hour lunch. And she said, "Why would you want to do this for a cable channel where the ratings are not going to be as high, when you can go back on TV and have the same high ratings and be the kind of, you know, big splash that you made last time?"
I said, because it`s you. To me, that she believed in me made me believe in myself.
WYNTER: There`s a lot riding on the success of your show.
O`DONNELL: Yes.
WYNTER: How much pressure does that add to you?
O`DONNELL: I think, as an artist, if you ever are concerned with the outcome, you can`t create real art, right? I don`t think Picasso, not that I`m saying I`m him - but I don`t think he sat down and thought, "Boy, I hope this one sells for a lot of money."
You paint because you have to. You dance because you must. You sing because it`s in you, right? So when I entertain, it`s my job to love. It`s my job to love people and to not be attached to the result.
It takes a long time to build a new network. And believe me, we`ve just started, and I`m in for the long run.
WYNTER: You said you wanted to have people - real people with real stories in this setting for the audience, for America to learn from them. Nancy Grace is going to be one of your guests.
O`DONNELL: Yes.
WYNTER: What do you hope to learn or to hear from Nancy?
O`DONNELL: Well, I really want to talk to her about the Amanda Knox case because I didn`t follow it when it happened.
I want to ask her what she feels about that. And I want to talk to her what it`s like to have twins and what`s it like to have them later in life. And you know, she`s very interesting to me.
WYNTER: Sure.
O`DONNELL: She`s a very powerful woman and I`m so impressed that she`s on "Dancing with the Stars."
WYNTER: She also has a lot to say. Have you been following her at all?
O`DONNELL: Oh, yes. And you know, I would never do that show. It scares the crap out of me.
WYNTER: When are you going to sign up?
O`DONNELL: They`ve asked me often and I`m like -
WYNTER: Why not, Rosie? You have done everything else.
O`DONNELL: Honey, I would be terrified to do the pasodoble.
WYNTER: You would be fantastic.
O`DONNELL: I`m not doing "Dancing with the Stars" no matter what happens, although when I saw Kirstie Alley lose all that weight -
WYNTER: Yes.
O`DONNELL: And Kelly Osbourne, I did have a moment of - maybe I should.
WYNTER: Nancy is quite convincing. She may convince you.
O`DONNELL: Really? I would be terrified. Isn`t that funny that I`ve done Broadway, I`ve hosted the Grammys, but afraid to do "Dancing with the Stars"?
WYNTER: You`d sail right through.
O`DONNELL: You think?
WYNTER: We`re going to end on a high note.
O`DONNELL: All right.
WYNTER: You look fantastic.
O`DONNELL: Thank you.
WYNTER: I have to ask you about your new love, Michelle.
O`DONNELL: Yes, Michelle.
WYNTER: And lingerie. Can we talk about that for a little bit?
O`DONNELL: I guess we can. I`m bringing sexy back. You know what, she`s really lovely and she`s -
WYNTER: She`s gorgeous.
O`DONNELL: Yes, she`s a beautiful woman. And she`s as kind inside as she is beautiful outside. Every night, she has this routine with she washes her face and then she has the cream for this and then she has the cream for her eyes and then uses the machine for this.
And she always smells amazing and she always looks amazing even when she`s not in makeup. Just who she is as a woman - very feminine, very appealing. And she said to me, "I`m going to teach you."
I know that you like it when you, you know - I know that. And it would feel good for you. She said, you know, I want you to get bras that fit you.
WYNTER: That`s important, Rosie.
O`DONNELL: I didn`t realize it was. I didn`t in my life.
WYNTER: You look amazing and seem happy.
O`DONNELL: I am very happy. It took 49 years to get here, but I`m very, very happy.
WYNTER: Rosie, thank you so much.
O`DONNELL: Thank you. It`s great to see you.
WYNTER: Fantastic and we`re so proud of you with all your success.
O`DONNELL: Thank you. Thanks for coming and watching the show.
WYNTER: Absolutely.
O`DONNELL: It was very nice.
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HAMMER: Yes. I think Rosie`s energy is just amazing. That was SHOWBIZ TONIGHT`s Kareen Wynter. By the way, it was soon after we spoke with Rosie that Nancy Grace appeared on Rosie`s show, and they got along just famously. You can catch the Rosie show weeknights on OWN.
And Rosie might say she`s scared to do "Dancing with the Stars," but with Nancy Grace on her side, who knows? HLN`s Nancy Grace reveals to SHOWBIZ TONIGHT why she thinks Rosie would do just fine.
Also, Adrian Grenier`s life after "Entourage." And Charlie Sheen`s "Two and a Half" slam. Did Charlie really just diss Ashton Kutcher big- time? All that is making big news in "The Buzz Today."
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(voice-over) Charlie`s "Two and a Half" slam. Charlie Sheen has just broken his silence about how he thinks his former show is doing without him.
The new "Two and a Half Men" with Ashton Kutcher has dropped in ratings since its huge debut. And Sheen`s unleashing blame on his old bosses.
In a new interview on TMZ, Charlie disses producers but he says he can`t fault Kutcher, "He`s doing the best he can. I don`t think the role is cursed, but I`m extremely disappointed with how they`re handling what I left behind."
"Dancing" with Rosie? Rosie O. has just revealed to SHOWBIZ TONIGHT that would be too afraid to do "Dancing with the Stars." But Rosie is getting the go ahead from HLN`s own dancer, Nancy Grace.
In a brand-new interview, Nancy reveals to us that she thinks Rosie could rumba and waltz.
NANCY GRACE, HOST, "NANCY GRACE": I find it hard to believe Rosie O`Donnell is afraid of anything. And I suggested to her that she have Tristan as her dance partner, because if he can teach me the paso such as it is, I know he can teach Rosie.
"Entourage" ever after? Adrian Grenier is giving SHOWBIZ TONIGHT details on his life after "Entourage." Grenier is focusing on helping the environment through his brand-new Web site, "SHFT.com."
And Adrian reveals us to how fans are already missing the show and his character, Vinny Chase.
ADRIAN GRENIER, ACTOR: I`ve changed from being, you know, Vinny Chase, the celebrity, to Adrian, the therapist. I have to, like, console so many people on the street.
I mean, grown men practically in tears wondering what they`re going to do now on Sunday nights. So it`s a lot of hugging it out.
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HAMMER: People weeping openly over the loss of that show. Moving now to Jennifer Lopez breaking down in tears, not about "Entourage" going away, but it`s after a surprising performance with a bunch of guys who looked like her exes. Ben Affleck, Diddy, Chris Judd, you know. What made J-Lo cry? We`re going to tell you what she said, coming up.
And it`s man versus puppy. Did you see this? This is really unbelievable. A face-off between a grown man with tattoos and earrings and a cute little pit bull puppy.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Oh, hell. (EXPLETIVE DELETED).
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Hey, hey, Marvin. Stay with me.
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HAMMER: Coming up next, I`m going to tell you why this tough guy is running from this cute little puppy. This is SHOWBIZ TONIGHT on HLN news and views.
Here`s the "SHOWBIZ News Ticker" - more stories from the SHOWBIZ TONIGHT newsroom making news tonight.
TEXT: Justin Bieber, Christina Aguilera, Maroon 5 to perform at America Music Awards. Selena Gomez gets racy in brand-new promo for the "2011 MTV Europe Music Awards."
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SELENA GOMEZ, ACTRESS AND SINGER: Finally, I get to host the EMAs. Wow.
Seriously? Shut your face! Who else could it be? Who else if it isn`t me to be hosting the show? People know who to (UNINTELLIGIBLE), I`m a pro. You guys (UNINTELLIGIBLE). I`ll say it.
Congratulations to me. So here we go another page in my legacy. (UNINTELLIGIBLE) wait until they get a load of me. EMAs - that`s where all the stars are going to be. But most importantly, congratulations to me.
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JACK BLACK, ACTOR: I love "Project Runway" without any kind of guilt. I wouldn`t call it a "guilty pleasure." Just a "pleasure pleasure." But don`t tell me what`s happening now because I`m, like, two episodes behind on my Tivo.
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HAMMER: Who knew Jack Black`s big reality confession - he loves "Project Runway." Who would have thought? SHOWBIZ TONIGHT caught up with Jack last night as he helped honor fellow comedian, Will Ferrell.
Will was just presented with the 14th annual Mark Twain Prize for American Humor at the Kennedy Center in Washington, D.C.
Welcome back to SHOWBIZ TONIGHT. I`m A.J. Hammer in New York. And tonight, real luxury for less.
Yes. Move over, Kardashians. There`s a new reality show in town and it`s not all about the luxurious highfalutin big money lifestyle of the rich and famous. Oh, it can be about bargains, too.
It`s a brand-new reality show secret and the stars of Bravo`s new hit show, "Fashion Hunters," right here to talk about it.
Joining me right now in New York, Ambria Miscia and Karina Lepiner. Great to have you guys here.
I love the premise of this show. Let`s talk about some secrets right now. We`ve got to dish on them. The show is on Bravo. "Fashion Hunters" is all about the daily drama at a Soho consignment shop you guys run called Second Time Around.
You pulled back the curtain on just what`s involved in getting these amazing expensive labels into your shop and sell them for a fraction of the price. It`s really a pretty vicious market.
So Karina, give me a sense of the kind of drama you guys face on a day-to-day basis doing this, because I can only imagine.
KARINA LEPINER, CAST MEMBER, BRAVO`S "FASHION HUNTERS": I mean, basically - I mean, it is. It is really difficult, first of all, just to get, you know, those high-end items and to get our high-end clients in.
I mean, we carry at the shop really well. It just - it involves a lot of networking and a lot of like, you know, just -
AMBRIA MISCIA, CAST MEMBER, BRAVO`S "FASHION HUNTERS": Going out and extracting the merchandise.
HAMMER: And what makes it perfect for reality TV is the demand for this kind of stuff, the kind of prices consignment shops typically sell them for.
It`s extraordinary and there`s no shortage of drama on this show, "Fashion Hunters." I want to take a look at what happens when a woman walks into a Second Time Around. She has a couple of Chanel bags she wants to have you guys sell. Let`s see what happens here.
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LEPINER: Oh my god. Oh my god. Ambria - it`s very rare we get Chanel bags in the store.
MISCIA: I actually got them at a garage sale.
LEPINER: What did you pay for these?
MISCIA: OK. So I paid $5.
LEPINER: What?
MISCIA: OK. That one was $10.
LEPINER: I`m going to die.
MISCIA: So I paid $10 for this. If you guys can get me $3,000 for it, I would die on the spot.
LEPINER: This bag is real? You need to cut me a deal, because I want to buy this bag.
MISCIA: It`s really not fair for Karina just to take it before we`ve even consigned it.
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HAMMER: I love it. So people really kind of freak out over these situations. Give me a sense - are people, when the cameras are off, you know, stuff that we may not see. Are they duking it out?
I mean, are fists flying over trying to get the bags and the shoes that you guys sell on the cheap?
MISCIA: Well, obviously it`s a store, so it can be really quiet and calm. And then when an item comes in, like a $4,000 jumbo Chanel bag that`s obviously in high demand, I mean, the tension can go from zero to 100 in five seconds.
And suddenly you have women, kind of - you know, Karina calls it hawking. They start looking at it and then, "I was here first. I offered this much." And it gets really tense and you`ve got to have to know how to just get these women in line.
HAMMER: And you guys do work really hard to bring in these extraordinary fashion labels that you can sell at a fraction of what we would pay for at retail.
And, of course, this is worlds away from what we see the Kardashians and the "Real Housewives of Beverly Hills" wearing and using on reality TV. It`s sort of a different mode.
Give me a sense of what you think the secret is behind the success of a show like yours. Is it simply the economic downturn or is it so much more than that?
LEPINER: I think it`s a little bit of both. I think basically the success of this show is just, you know, people just being able to come in and find these fabulous deals.
I mean, that is the best kept secret. I mean, just coming in and finding high end, you know, items for a third to a quarter of retail. And I just, you know -
MISCIA: Even the wealthy right now are looking for a return on their investments, if you will.
HAMMER: Yes, of course.
MISCIA: So like maybe a lot of the real housewives should be shopping at our store.
HAMMER: Exactly. And look, if a little hair pulling actually happens and is caught on camera because everybody wants that same Chanel bag, then so be it.
Great to meet you, guys. Best of luck with the show. Appreciate you being here. And make sure you check out "Fashion Hunters" on Bravo. It`s on every Tuesday night.
Got to move on right now to more reality secrets. Eddie Cibrian`s ex, Brandi Glanville, is speaking out. Tonight, the newly-minted "Real Housewives of Beverly Hills" star reveals the moment that her ex, Eddie Cibrian, left her for country star, LeAnn rhymes. Remember that, don`t you?
Well, LeAnn and Eddie co-starred in a Lifetime movie together. Brandi later discovered that Eddie and LeAnn were having an affair.
Well, on "The Wendy Williams Show" this morning, Brandi revealed exactly how she found out and what her so-called relationship is like now with LeAnn.
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BRANDI GLANVILLE, REALITY TV STAR, "THE REAL HOUSEWIVES OF BEVERLY HILLS": I was driving and he called me and he`s like, "Pull over."
And I pulled over. He`s like, "Hey, babe, there`s a magazine cover out today and it says that I might be having an affair with LeAnn. It`s totally not true." So I went to the store, got the magazine and -
WENDY WILLIAMS, HOST, "THE WENDY WILLIAMS SHOW": It was "Us".
GLANVILLE: There was "Us Weekly," yes, on the cover. It was like - he made it seem like it was just, you know, a little thing. It was the whole cover.
WILLIAMS: Yes, it was big.
GLANVILLE: And we were leaving that day for my best friend`s wedding, and she`d only invited two people.
WILLIAMS: In the Turks and the Caicos.
GLANVILLE: Yes. In the Turks and the Caicos. So I was like get your (INAUDIBLE) wedding. We`re not talking about this. And we went to the wedding. We had a great time. We got home and that`s it.
WILLIAMS: How do you get along with LeAnn? We don`t blame you.
GLANVILLE: No, I have no - I don`t - we don`t have a relationship per se, like I have no ill will - feelings for her. But -
WILLIAMS: How is she as a stepmom?
GLANVILLE: Overbearing.
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HAMMER: But no ill will, to be clear. Kind of sounds like an episode of "The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills" right there. I`m thinking maybe LeAnn should sign up and do that show. I doubt that will happen.
Well, we move on tonight to man versus pit bull puppy. Did you see this? It`s the unbelievable face-off between a big old guy with a bunch of tattoos and a tiny little puppy.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Oh, hell (EXPLETIVE DELETED) no.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Hey, Marvin, Marvin, stay with me.
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HAMMER: Something doesn`t seem right about that, right? You`ve got to see what happens when this man confronts his lifelong fear of pit bulls. This is SHOWBIZ TONIGHT on HLN news and views.
Here comes Time the "SHOWBIZ News Ticker" - more stories from the SHOWBIZ TONIGHT newsroom making news tonight.
TEXT: "Paranormal 3" breaks records at box office grossing over $80 million worldwide. Paul Rudd reveals to SHOWBIZ TONIGHT what he loves about fellow comedian, Will Ferrell.
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PAUL RUDD, COMEDIAN: He`s always coming up with new stuff and he`s really just fun to watch and he`s very good at keeping it together. I`m not, and he would just kill me all the time. And then he`s such an easy-going guy that he would have something really funny to say.
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HAMMER: Did you see this? It`s the unbelievable new video that we just uncovered of a man completely paralyzed in fear as he faced off with a cute little pit bull puppy.
Better check this out. This happens on the new Animal Planet show, "My Extreme Animal Phobia." Marvin, a big old dude with tattoos and earrings, cowers in fear over a little pit bull puppy.
You`ve got to feel for the guy. He witnessed a childhood friend getting attacked by a pit bull when he was just five years old. So check out what happens when Marvin comes face to face with a pit bull puppy for the very first time.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He`s looking at me. No.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Marvin - come on, Marvin. Think of your girls. Think of your girls. Think of your girls.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I`m really a coward.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You`re not a coward. You are not a coward. You are a strong person. You`re not a coward, Marvin.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I closed my eyes and I go back in time, like, where I was when I was five years old.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: This is why you`re confronting your fear because you can`t keep living like this, OK? You can`t keep living in sheer terror. Enough is enough.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: My babies. My babies.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I know. I know. You cannot leave being afraid still. I know you`re going to be scared, but you have to touch the dog before you leave. I`m sorry. Walk up to the dog.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He can see you shaking.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Oh my god.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Look at you.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The dogs know fear. They go after fear.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I know it`s tough, but you`re moving forward.
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HAMMER: Wow. Can you imagine being that afraid of a cute little puppy like that? Truly incredible. Good luck, Marvin. "My Extreme Animal Phobia" airs Friday nights on Animal Planet.
Well, what brought Jennifer Lopez to tears? She brought look-alikes of her exes on stage and broke down. We`ll tell you why, coming up next.
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HAMMER: That`s Jennifer Lopez on stage last night in Connecticut performing the song "One Love" with a bunch of guys who were dancing on the stage with her who look an awful lot like her exes, Ben Affleck, Diddy, Chris Judd.
But why did she break down and cry? Everybody is buzzing about J-Lo`s performance because she ended the song in tears. A lot of people think it might have been because of her split from her husband, Marc Anthony.
Well, J-Lo gave a brand-new interview today where she revealed the song expressed where she is in her life right now. And when she felt that the audience understood what she was feeling, well, she began to cry. I`ve got to gave it to J-Lo really putting it all out there.
That is it for SHOWBIZ TONIGHT. I`m A.J. Hammer. Remember, you can catch SHOWBIZ TONIGHT exclusively Sunday through Friday at 11:00 p.m. Eastern and Pacific right here on HLN.
Stay right here for Dr. Drew, next. Tonight, the brand-new shocking developments in the disappearance of baby Lisa.
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