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Stealing Lindsay; Alec Baldwin`s Apology to Himself; Showbiz Reality Secrets: Family Frenzy
Aired December 12, 2011 - 23:00 ET
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A.J. HAMMER, SHOWBIZ HOST: Big news breaking tonight on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT - stealing Lindsay. Lindsay Lohan gets back her stolen purse, but what happened to the $10,000 in cash that was inside?
Plus, a hacker league forces "Playboy" to release Lindsay`s new photos early. Is this actually good news for Lindsay?
Alec`s apology to himself, poking fun at the flight fight that got him booted off a plane.
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ALEC BALDWIN, ACTOR: It was very important for me to come here tonight, and on behalf of everyone at American Airlines issue an apology to Mr. Alec Baldwin.
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HAMMER: Our SHOWBIZ Flashpoint, was Alec funny or just plain wrong?
"SHOWBIZ Reality Secrets: Family Frenzy." Tonight, Ivanka Trump reveals to me what it really takes to impress her dad, the Donald.
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(on camera) You obviously have to learn how to win over your father, Donald Trump. What is the secret to doing that?
(END VIDEO CLIP)
Plus, the Kardashians, the Braxtons, the Gastineau girls.
TV`s most provocative entertainment news show breaks news right now.
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Hello. I`m A.J. Hammer in Hollywood with big news breaking tonight - stealing Lindsay.
Lindsay Lohan now at the center of a brand-new Hollywood whodunit tonight. It was just supposed to be, you know, a fun weekend in Hawaii for Lindsay Lohan. But instead, her $5,000 designer purse disappeared. Just vanished, I tell you.
It was suspiciously returned, only without the $10,000 in cash that she was carrying around with her. That`s right. She had $10,000 cash to go to a party in Hawaii, another mystery on its own.
That`s not the only theft she`s dealing with tonight. Oh, no. A hacker nearly sabotaged her reported $1 million "Playboy" deal by leaking the nude pictures online and forcing "Playboy" to release the photos and the issue earlier than they had planned.
But the big question we have about all this tonight is, could all this drama actually be good for Lindsay?
Joining me tonight from Los Angeles for our SHOWBIZ newsmaker interview, I am thrilled to welcome the ever talented comedienne, Margaret Cho. And you have got to pick up Margaret`s great new live CD. It`s a DVD, rather, called "Cho Dependent." Margaret, it`s great to have you here. Thanks joining us tonight.
MARGARET CHO, COMEDIENNE: Thank you so much.
HAMMER: So let`s talk about Lindsay because, you know, trouble just seems to follow that young lady not matter where she goes.
She, of course, had her $5,000 Chanel purse with her. And it was stolen at a house party she was at in Hawaii. The purse eventually recovered. The $10,000 in cash that was reportedly in the purse was gone, Margaret.
Now, please help me out here, because you`re a big-time star. Maybe you can let me inside and help me understand what goes on. Is it just normal for you big-time celebrities to roll into a party with $10,000 in cash?
CHO: Oh, don`t - I`ve never had that - I could only get $600 out at a time from an ATM. So I don`t really know - I`m always grateful, too, when my ATM dispenses cash, but - because I`m never really sure if it`s going to.
But that`s very - I mean, that`s a huge amount of money to be carrying around. And a $5,000 purse - that purse should come with an armed guard attached because that`s kind of a lot just to pay for a purse.
I mean, everything sort of happens to her very expensively, I`ve seen. The whole thing where she`s stealing - I guess if you steal stuff that maybe you get stuff stolen from you.
HAMMER: Yes.
CHO: I mean, I know that she did steal that necklace supposedly. So maybe you set that up in your life where you steal stuff, people take your stuff. I don`t know. But it`s an awful lot of money and an awful lot of drama for a very small girl.
HAMMER: Yes. I mean, it`s like theft karma I guess is what you`re saying that`s going on there. Funny I was having this conversation with somebody last night. We watch shows like "Desperate Housewives," the ABC drama.
It`s made up. And you look at these ladies` lives and you think, well, in real life, you know, nobody could have this much drama following them around. And here, it`s happening to Lindsay.
And she`s also making big news tonight because her nude "Playboy" photo shoot ended up hitting newsstands early. We`re going to put up some of these here. And as you can see, she`s channeling Marilyn Monroe.
We weren`t supposed to see naked Lindsay, not yet anyway. Poor Hugh Hefner had to rush Lohan`s big "Playboy" feature to print early because somebody leaked the photos online.
But now that they`re out there, Margaret, here`s what we`re asking in our SHOWBIZ Flashpoint, is all the drama actually good for Lindsay this time? I kind of think it is.
CHO: I hope it is. I mean, I think she`s a very talented actress. I always think it`s troubling when you cast somebody in the role of Marilyn Monroe, because Marilyn`s story is so tragic.
And really, the photographs of Lindsay that have been, like, kind of out there that are very much styled in Marilyn Monroe. It is kind of a death wish. I mean, it`s a sad thing because I really hope that isn`t in her future.
But it`s something that I think people are preying upon. You know, you see her framed in these kinds of, like, period looks. And this looks kind of all point to a history that is almost inevitable for somebody like Lindsay Lohan.
So I worry that`s sort of the Marilyn kind of eventuality is really helping it along by, you know, showing her in this light. It`s kind of tragic.
HAMMER: It`s kind of tragic and actually I think it is a little creepy. You bring up a great point. It just sort of plays into all the fears we`ve had about Lindsay Lohan for so long.
All right. Let`s talk about something you know an awful lot about - comedy, of course. I love catching your shows whenever I can.
And this past weekend, I have to say, the funniest thing I ever saw next to your live concert DVD over the weekend - of course, because I was sitting at home checking that out. Actually, my hotel room here in Hollywood.
Alec Baldwin made this great cameo on "Saturday Night Live." He poked fun at his little airplane incident last week. Remember he got kicked off an American Airlines flight because he wouldn`t turn off his iPhone because he was in the middle of a vigorous game of words with friends.
Some people can sympathize with that. Others were kind of ticked off. Well, during "Saturday Night Live`s" "Weekend Update," Alec played the pilot of the American Airlines plane in which he was kicked off. Let`s watch how that played out.
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BALDWIN: It was important for me to come here tonight and, on behalf of everyone at American Airlines, issue an apology to Mr. Alec Baldwin.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Alec, are you sure this is the right way to handle this?
BALDWIN: Yes, yes, keep going. Keep going. What harm would it do to let him keep playing his game? Not any game, mind you, but a word game for smart people.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: But, Captain Rogers(ph), don`t phones interfere with the plane`s communication system?
BALDWIN: You don`t believe that, do you, Seth?
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HAMMER: See, that`s very funny to me, but having followed the story very closely last week, there were a lot of people ticked off at Alec and probably aren`t laughing. \
They said he was a rude, thoughtless little pig and selfish because he refused to follow the rules. And that delayed other passengers on his flight.
So this is what we`re asking in our SHOWBIZ Flashpoint about this - was Alec`s "SNL" appearance funny or just plain wrong? I think I know where you`re going to go with this Margaret, but do tell.
CHO: I think it was really funny. I mean, I think he`s so brave to actually have the ability to, like, make fun of himself, which he`s really, really good at.
And one of the things I love about Alec Baldwin is that he just has such a sense of humor. I mean, he`s so hilarious. And he actually kind of seamlessly plays the pilot, like, I actually didn`t know who he was at first.
I didn`t really - I didn`t actually think it was him. And so, I thought he did a good job. And it really speaks to the powerlessness we all feel when we`re on a flight, like, why do we have to stop playing our games? Why can`t we just kind of be there? What does it interfere with?
I kind of agree with him, like, I don`t want to turn my phone off. But I don`t know why we have to in the first place. So I like that he - he stood for, what, passenger rights? He represents us.
HAMMER: He does represent us. And as a matter of fact, after I finish the show today, Margaret, I am hopping on a plane. And I`m always very rule- favoring about turning off my iPhone and my iPad. But I might just, you know, do a little shopping or something like that -
CHO: You know, go ahead.
HAMMER: After the doors close just to see if I get Alec Baldwin-ed. Why not? Alec says it`s OK.
CHO: If you can -
HAMMER: So before I let you go, you have to tell me some more, tell everybody else some more, about your new DVD "Cho Dependent." It`s now your sixth live comedy concert DVD. What`s different on this one?
CHO: Well, I have some music on there. I did an album last year that was all comedy songs that made with Tegan and Sara and Ani DiFranco and Fiona Apple.
And I sing a couple songs. There`s some surprises. There`s lots of - lots of great stuff. I filmed it in Atlanta, which is sort of my second hometown. So I`m really proud of it. And it`s out now, so please go watch it.
HAMMER: Margaret Cho`s concert film is called "Cho Dependent." It is available on DVD. Margaret Cho, again, thank you so much for being here.
And we are moving on now to Jennifer Aniston, who`s just been named the hottest woman ever by "Men`s Health" magazine. Yes, of course, she`s beautiful. But is she really hotter than, I don`t know, Marilyn Monroe and Gisele Bundchen? That`s what people are talking about today.
Also, SHOWBIZ TONIGHT`s at "CNN Heroes" of the year. My spectacular co- host, J.R. Martinez, is right here with this year`s incredible CNN Hero of the Year.
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ANDERSON COOPER, HOST, "ANDERSON": The 2011 CNN Hero of the Year is Robin Lim.
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HAMMER: That was just last night. But has Robin Lim`s life and her life`s work already been transformed? We`re going to here it from her, next.
And coming up later, on a special edition of SHOWBIZ TONIGHT at the bottom of the hour, "SHOWBIZ Reality Secrets: Family Frenzy."
"Braxton Family Values" stars, Trina and Tamar Braxton, reveal to us how they stay so tight despite all those big-time pressures of reality TV? This is SHOWBIZ TONIGHT on HLN news and views.
It is time now for the "SHOWBIZ News Ticker" - more stories from the SHOWBIZ TONIGHT newsroom making news tonight.
TEXT: Paris Jackson inks first movie deal for an underwater fantasy film. Jessica Simpson tells Rachael Ray what she`ll do if she gives birth to a boy.
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RACHAEL RAY, HOST, "THE RACHAEL RAY SHOW": (UNINTELLIGIBLE) is more important? If you want to be like, play catch or I want to be daddy`s -
JESSICA SIMPSON, ACTRESS AND SINGER: He said either one. I mean, I think every guy kind of wants a boy first. I mean, and if I have a boy, I`ll just put him in a tutu.
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HAMMER: I`m just so impressed by that performance. That`s Miley Cyrus, of course, rocking the house last night at "CNN Heroes: An All Star Tribute." That performance topped off what was just an unforgettable evening honoring CNN`s top ten heroes of 2011.
Welcome back to SHOWBIZ TONIGHT. I`m A.J. Hammer in Hollywood.
And tonight, SHOWBIZ TONIGHT at "CNN Heroes." So after thousands of entries, 11 weeks of voting, and 10 remarkable honorees, CNN reveals its all-new Hero of the Year.
And while, obviously, there are so many worthwhile causes to celebrate, it was Robin Lim who takes home $250,000 to help her continue and expand the amazing work that she does for so many others.
Robin was honored for her tireless efforts helping thousands of Indonesian women have healthy pregnancies. She`s going to be joining me in just a moment.
But first, with me tonight from Los Angeles, actor, "Dancing with the Stars" champ and my "CNN Heroes" red carpet co-host, J.R. Martinez.
J.R., man, you rocked it last night. You told me after the show you had such a great time doing it. Everybody could see how much fun you were having your first time out as a red carpet host. But for you, my friend, what was the highlight of the night?
J.R. MARTINEZ, ACTOR: The highlight of the night was to meet all the honorees, I mean, and to meet everyone that said, you know what, they found a problem someplace at a point in life.
And they said, "We don`t want to just continue to talk about that problem. We want to make it a solution, and we want to be part of that solution."
So it really was - for me, those are the stars, even though there was a lot of celebrities in the house last night, you know, kind of showing their support. To me, they were the stars.
They were the heroes and they are the people that, you know, we hope everyone still goes to "CNNHeroes.com" to continue to find out how they can get involved, not only with Robin`s cause, but with everybody`s cause that is completely worthwhile.
HAMMER: Yes, every celebrity that I spoke with said they were more than happy to step out of that spotlight and let it shine on the honorees who were the real celebrities last night.
MARTINEZ: Absolutely.
HAMMER: And you told me it was such a cool experience for you to be doing the interviews for the first time. You`ve been interviewed so many times yourself. So do you have the hosting bug, J.R.?
Any chance you might want to add this gig to your impressive resume on a full-time basis?
MARTINEZ: You know, I think so, A.J. I think so. And it will all come back to you on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT for giving me that first opportunity, you know.
And it was fun. I mean, it was different and it was unique, because, when I was asking someone a question, in my mind, I`m thinking, this is how I would answer this question.
But it was, you know, very conversational. And you know, you definitely were very helpful so I want to say thank you to you and the whole crew at SHOWBIZ TONIGHT, you know, for making the whole experience, you know, definitely worthwhile.
So I definitely want to look into doing it again, so I may come knock on your door again and say, "A.J., can I hang out again one more time with the mike and see if I can interview somebody?"
HAMMER: No problem. We would love to have you back and you really did a terrific job. Of course, it was such an emotional moment when Anderson Cooper announced the CNN`s hero of the year, Robin Lim.
She has such an inspiring story of helping thousands of poor women have healthy pregnancies and births. Let`s watch that from last night.
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COOPER: The 2011 CNN Hero of the Year is Robin Lim.
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HAMMER: Such an incredible moment. I am honored to welcome Robin Lim, now affectionately known as Mother Robin. Congratulations on your honor.
Everybody is just so thrilled for you. You have to tell me what was going through your mind as you`re sitting there in the audience and Anderson Cooper announces that you are CNN`s Hero of the Year?
ROBIN LIM, CNN`S 2011 HERO OF THE YEAR: Well, after being together for these few days with all the honorees, we fell in love with each other.
And the more time we spend together, the more loving support we were giving to each other. And so what happened was at that moment, I honestly did not think it would be me. That was the furthest thing from my mind.
And I was looking in my husband`s eyes and I was thinking about all the honorees and how much I love them and how excited I would be no matter who was chosen, so I`m still in shock.
HAMMER: And I`m sure you`ve been hearing from everybody from all over the world today, Robin. We`re so thrilled for you. We were also definitely feeling the love in the room. I want to congratulate you once again.
LIM: Thank you.
HAMMER: CNN`s Hero of the Year, Robin Lim, and J.R. Martinez, thank you. Great job again last night.
MARTINEZ: Thanks.
HAMMER: And for me, personally, great making a new friend. I look forward to seeing you soon.
Right now, we must move on as SHOWBIZ TONIGHT breaks news. Legendary director, Steven Spielberg, spilling secrets to us about a brand-new "Jurassic Park" movie. And four continents, 20 cities and now $1 million richer.
They are the latest winners of TV`s hottest reality competition. That story tops "The Buzz Today."
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(voice-over) Amazing winners revealed. Ernie Halvorsen and his fiancee, Cindy Chiang, took home the victory and $1 million on "The Amazing Race." The couple competed in four continents, 20 cities and nearly 40,000 miles on the CBS reality show before being crowned the winners.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Ernie and Cindy, you are the official winners of "the Amazing Race." And you have won the $1 million. Congratulations.
HAMMER: SHOWBIZ tonight breaks news with Steven Spielberg. Spielberg just revealed to SHOWBIZ TONIGHT that fans will definitely be seeing another "Jurassic Park."
In a brand-new interview with SHOWBIZ TONIGHT while promoting his new film, "The Adventures of Tintin," Spielberg confirmed that a new storyline was in the works for a fourth film in the "Jurassic Park" franchise. But he wouldn`t say whether the original cast would be coming back.
STEVEN SPIELBERG, MOVIE DIRECTOR: We`re still working on the story for another "Jurassic Park" film. But there is going to be one. I can`t even say. You`ll have to wait and see.
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Moving out to the hottest woman of all time? Well, "Men`s Health" magazine has just named Jen Aniston the hottest woman ever. Ever? Well, they say Jen is the hottest woman to ever walk planet earth. Do you agree?
And later, on a special edition of SHOWBIZ TONIGHT at the bottom of the hour, "SHOWBIZ Reality Secrets: Family Frenzy." How the Kardashians became reality royalty.
Plus family secrets from Donald Trump`s daughter and the Braxtons. We`re talking five sisters all fighting for the same spotlight. This is SHOWBIZ TONIGHT on HLN news and views.
And now, the "SHOWBIZ News Ticker" - more stories from the SHOWBIZ TONIGHT newsroom making news tonight.
TEXT: Maya Angelou, Steve Wonder, Mariah Carey to be recognized at "BET Honors." Meryl Streep gets "Vogue" magazine cover shot for the first time at 62.
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HAMMER: Jennifer Aniston has just been named the hottest woman of all time. Yes, she is beautiful. She is sexy. She is down to earth. But really, hotter than Marilyn Monroe? Hotter than Angelina Jolie?
Tonight, there is a great debate. Is Jennifer Aniston the hottest of all time? Welcome back to SHOWBIZ TONIGHT. I`m A.J. Hammer in Hollywood.
And tonight, one of America`s sweethearts out-sexied some of Hollywood`s most legendary sex symbols. Check out "Men`s Health" magazine top five picks for the 100 hottest women of all time.
Jen Aniston beat out the rest of the top five, iconic Hollywood sex symbol, Raquel Welch. Marilyn Monroe in third place, followed by number four, Britney Spears and Madonna in fifth place. The big question tonight, is Aniston really the hottest of all time?
Joining me now, Siggy Flicker, matchmaker on VH1`s "Why am I Still Single?" Season finale is this Sunday. Make sure you catch that.
So Siggy, there was a big debate in our SHOWBIZ TONIGHT newsroom today. A lot of people saying Jennifer Aniston`s sexy. Absolutely. Hottest of all time. There wasn`t as much agreement there. Did "Men`s Health" get it right in your mind?
SIGGY FLICKER, MATCHMAKER, VH1`S "WHY AM I STILL SINGLE": "Men`s Health" got it wrong. Jennifer Aniston`s like having a piece of apple. Is she beautiful? Absolutely. Is she the girl next door? Absolutely.
Is she the sexiest or the hottest? No way, Jose. Sexiest and hottest. Are we forgetting Marilyn Monroe? Angelina Jolie? Sophia Loren? Eva Mendes? I mean, where did they take this poll? In Mars? Absolutely not, A.J.
HAMMER: Maybe they did. I don`t know. It didn`t say at the bottom, "Taken in Mars," but it might have been. Here`s what "Men`s Health" is saying about Jennifer Aniston. They say funny is sexy and Jennifer Aniston is funny.
She rarely plays the airhead and seldom overplays a role. She`s funny in a quiet, refreshingly human way. And that makes perfect sense to me, Siggy. Is funny the new sexy?
FLICKER: No. It makes perfect sense to you, but it doesn`t to me. You can be funny and sexy, but let`s not put them together. Sexy is sexy. Sexy is what sexy does. When I look at Jennifer Aniston, do I see beautiful and funny? Yes. But sexy and hot? Absolutely not.
HAMMER: All right.
FLICKER: Once you`re competing with women on the level of a Marilyn Monroe, come on. They got it wrong.
HAMMER: Sexy is as sexy does, so says Siggy Flicker. Make sure you check out the season finale of Siggy`s show, "Why am I Still Single?" It is this Sunday on VH1.
Well, you know what we think now. I want to hear from you. Here`s our SHOWBIZ TONIGHT exclusive poll. "Men`s Health" magazine names Jennifer Aniston the hottest woman of all time. Do you agree?
Vote at HLNTV.com/ShowbizTonight. You can always E-mail us, too. Our address, showbiztonight@hlntv.com.
Well, here`s what`s coming up next on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT. You don`t want to miss a special edition of SHOWBIZ TONIGHT, "Showbiz Reality Secrets: Family Frenzy."
They`re the most famous family on TV, but how did the Kardashians become reality royalty?
Plus, five Braxton sisters fighting for the same spotlight. "Braxton Family Values" stars Trina and Tamar revealing their reality secrets. This is SHOWBIZ TONIGHT on HLN news and views.
And now, the "SHOWBIZ News Ticker" - more stories from the SHOWBIZ TONIGHT newsroom making news tonight.
TEXT: Lowe`s faces shopper backlash after pulling ads from "All-American Muslim."
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HAMMER: Now, on a special edition of SHOWBIZ TONIGHT, "SHOWBIZ Reality Secrets: Family Frenzy," the Kardashian family, reality royalty.
So how did they make it to the top? Well, reality stars Lisa and Brittny Gastineau are right here to reveal their reality TV secrets.
Secrets from a Trump. "Celebrity Apprentice," a true reality family affair. Ivanka Trump spills behind-the-scenes secrets.
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(on camera) So you obviously had to learn how to win over your father, Donald Trump. What is the secret to doing that?
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HAMMER: Tonight, Ivanka Trump reveals to me what it really takes to impress her dad, the Donald.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Let me hear your radio voice.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Get your ass - get your ass out.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Tamar, golly, jeepers alive, always has a sense of me, me, me, me.
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HAMMER: Five Braxton sisters, one spotlight. The fight for face time. "Braxton Family Values" stars Trina and Tamar Braxton are right here with their reality secrets.
A special edition of SHOWBIZ TONIGHT, "SHOWBIZ Reality Secrets," starts right now.
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Welcome to the special edition of SHOWBIZ TONIGHT, "SHOWBIZ Reality Secrets: Family Frenzy." I`m A.J. Hammer in Hollywood.
And tonight, we`ve got the secrets behind the best and the worst of reality TV families, from the Kardashians to the Duggars, the breakup, the breakdown, the makeup, the make-outs. How much of the madness is real?
With me in Hollywood tonight, reality TV insiders, Lisa and Brittny Gastineau, former stars, of course, of E! reality series, "The Gastineau Girls." They are now designers for Gastineau Glamour Jewelry on "HSN.com" and "TresGlam.com."
It is great to have both of you here tonight. I mean, we`re talking true family reality TV insiders, so this is very special for us. So many great family TV reality shows have happened in the past. We`ve seen, of course - well, we saw your show, the Kardashians, the Hogans, the Braxtons.
That`s just naming a few. But for some reason, these Kardashians, they have exploded above and beyond everybody else. Obviously, it seems like they`re not done yet. There`s much more to come from them.
What do you think, Lisa? Is the success to their - or the secret to their reality success?
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LISA GASTINEAU, DESIGNER, GASTINEAU GLAMOUR JEWELRY: Well, I think that the fact that they`re all really easy on the eye camera-wise and there`s so many of them. And then there`s excitement with the professional athletes. There are so many elements to it that, you know, you can`t be bored.
HAMMER: Oh, there`s obviously something about family dynamics that is so relatable and makes good TV, the confrontations. You have the breakdowns, the name calling.
And we dug into the SHOWBIZ archives for this dramatic moment from one of the true original reality TV families, the Osbournes. Let`s watch.
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SHARON OSBOURNE, REALITY TV STAR: It`s really disgusting. What the (EXPLETIVE DELETED) is your deal? I have an opinion and I just don`t think it`s an attractive thing.
KELLY OSBOURNE, REALITY TV STAR: I think you`re nuts.
S. OSBOURNE: Me? And what are you, (EXPLETIVE DELETED) insane?
K. OSBOURNE: No, I just think you`re out of your mind.
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HAMMER: And obviously, some of it is sometimes uncomfortable to watch as we well know. Brittny, do you think, though, having the cameras there just ramps up the already built-in drama and tends to pile it on?
BRITTNY GASTINEAU, DESIGNER, GASTINEAU GLAMOUR JEWELRY: Yes, I think so. I think when you have cameras around you, like I know when we were filming New Year`s Eve in Aspen and I wanted to go with my friend, but we had to go to - the crew was filming us at another party.
And I was so angry. You have all these people in your face and you have an obligation to go somewhere else and you kind of want to live your life. I was 21 and just wanted to, you know, do what a 21-year-old wanted to do.
HAMMER: Sure.
B. GASTINEAU: And, you know, I got crazy. And my mom and I were fighting in a way -
L. GASTINEAU: In fairness, we`re there to do a job.
HAMMER: Well, that`s it.
B. GASTINEAU: Yes.
L. GASTINEAU: The good part of reality is when you actually forget that the cameras are there, then you`re doing it well. But then, the reality is you are being paid to do something. It`s a TV show, so you have an obligation to honor your agreement.
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HAMMER: Yes. You have a production to honor. You want people to tune in to watch. And we also know, and we`ve talked about this before, drama is what a lot of people are tuning in for, for better or worse.
Have there been times then where perhaps producers have come to you, Lisa, and said, "You know what? Can you step it up a little bit?" And maybe asked you to do things that you ordinarily wouldn`t do?
L. GASTINEAU: Of course.
B. GASTINEAU: You really didn`t have to do that a lot with us, though. There was always drama with us. (UNINTELLIGIBLE) this morning.
HAMMER: Oh, really? Were the cameras rolling?
L. GASTINEAU: No, no cameras. We just disagree. I mean, we -
HAMMER: Well, what`s an example of something that perhaps you were asked to do that wouldn`t be something you would do ordinarily?
L. GASTINEAU: Well, it usually involves something with a man in our lives. You know, we both - we were silly enough to think that we could keep our private lives private, and you can`t. Reality TV, anyone who goes in with an illusion that they`re going to put on a different persona than who they really are or keep things secret. It doesn`t work.
HAMMER: Well, there`s got to be a frenzy going on with the family in the ever expanding Duggar household. You guys have seen them. It`s a very different kind of drama that plays out in this family, though. Let`s take a look at that.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Hello, Dr. Murphy. Hey, this is Jim Bob. We`ve got - Johanna broke out with chickenpox a couple of weeks ago. And now, we have 11 more broke out.
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HAMMER: You know, obviously, some people are just outraged over the size of that family. I think they`re proving that there can be a happy family on television without all the drama going on.
What do you think the secret is to being able to keep the family drama in check when the cameras are rolling? Because that`s got to be tough.
L. GASTINEAU: Respect. Respect, because you are so tempted to push the envelope. You have producers prodding you. And I`m not saying reality TV isn`t real. It is real, but it`s amplified.
You have this - you know, you just - it`s amazing when you put a boom and microphones and cameras around people. Things come out that ordinarily wouldn`t come out.
HAMMER: Sure.
L. GASTINEAU: I mean, I`ve had lunches with girlfriends that were, you know, normally mild-mannered, happily married.
And the things that came out of their mouth. I was wondering if there was Tourette`s or something going on. Oh, my god. Their husbands are going to kill me when this all over.
HAMMER: What do you think, though, about keeping that family drama in check, working so closely with other family members?
B. GASTINEAU: I think you have to have it. If you don`t have it - and that`s what I think is what`s so successful, what makes family reality shows successful.
At the end of the day, it`s like you have to remember you`re still a family. And you can`t let the cameras get involved or the TV show get involved. And that`s why I think my mom, you know, and I had, you know, two seasons of a show.
And we are business partners and that`s - at the end of the day, we know that, you know. And this is my mom. We have this crazy life. We fight every single day. This is normal. This is usual.
HAMMER: Right.
B. GASTINEAU: People are getting to see this.
HAMMER: Yes.
B. GASTINEAU: We`re not normal. We`re not your typical mother/daughter. But it also - you know, it`s intriguing to see, you know - I guess people think it`s intriguing to see, you know, my mom dating younger guys than me. I don`t know. It`s just, you know.
HAMMER: Well, we always see on various family reality shows or any reality shows, people doing wild things, crazy things, again, back to things that maybe they wouldn`t ordinarily do.
But what I often get as an answer from a lot of people as well, they edited it in a way to make me look bad, to make it look I was saying something bad. For me, at the end of the day, if you said it or you did it, you`ve got to own it.
L. GASTINEAU: When it flows you`re like, "OK, I said it."
HAMMER: So Lisa, you had a chance to watch yourself on this show for two seasons. And I imagine that was very educational.
L. GASTINEAU: Cringe.
HAMMER: Was there anything that you can own up to me right now that you watched it and you said, "Wow. For the sake of my family, I wish I hadn`t done that?"
L. GASTINEAU: No, because we went in knowing - you know, we - people who watch us, they think that these explosive arguments are really real, and that`s how we talk. We`re from this crazy, dramatic family.
B. GASTINEAU: Italian, New York -
L. GASTINEAU: People are scared to be with us. They think all hell is breaking loose. Oh, no, we`re fine. Like screaming and yelling -
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B. GASTINEAU: Oh, mom, so what time are we going to -
L. GASTINEAU: I am a drama queen.
B. GASTINEAU: It is all right.
L. GASTINEAU: But we`re different that way.
HAMMER: Well, we`ve seen a lot of reality TV families be driven apart. And a lot of people say, well, there must have been problems there to begin with and it was only amplified by the fact that there were cameras there.
At the same time, you guys were obviously very close. You have this wonderful relationship that we`ve all gotten to see. Would you say, Brittny, in a way, working together, being filmed together and being on a show together brought you guys even closer together?
B. GASTINEAU: Yes, because we became business partners at the end of the day. We may have driven each other crazy even more, but, you know, it definitely brought us together closer, I think, definitely.
L. GASTINEAU: Well, there`s a bond. You know, it`s like being in a school play. Remember, you`re a cast member. There`s like camaraderie when you work together -
HAMMER: Yes.
L. GASTINEAU: And you live together. I mean, and if you have a strong bond, people - there are families that don`t have a strong bond and they`d have to create one.
HAMMER: The secret is, you`ve got to have that bond?
B. GASTINEAU: You`ve got to have it.
HAMMER: Great to see you guys and have you both. Brittny, Lisa, I appreciate it. Thank you so much.
And we must move on now to secrets from a Trump. Well, the Donald has got almost all of his kids working by his side on "The Apprentice." What`s that like? Donald`s daughter, Ivanka Trump, revealing to me the secrets of winning over her dad.
Also, five Braxton sisters in one show?
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Let me hear your radio voice.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Get your ass - get your ass out.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Tamar, golly, jeepers alive, always has a sense of me, me, me, me.
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HAMMER: Five famous sisters, one red hot spotlight. How do the Braxtons live life on TV? Trina and Tamar Braxton right here with their reality family secrets. This is a special edition of SHOWBIZ TONIGHT, "SHOWBIZ Reality Secrets: Family Frenzy."
All right. Do you remember this Kardashian clash.
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KHLOE KARDASHIAN, REALITY TV STAR: Are you even going to acknowledge me and say hi or anything?
KIM KARDASHIAN, REALITY TV STAR: Hi.
KHLOE KARDASHIAN: So sincere.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Who are you to step in and tell somebody when to be project manager? Who are you? Who are you? I will take you down while the rest of these girls would look at you be scared. I`m the girl that`s not scared of you.
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HAMMER: You know, "Celebrity Apprentice" isn`t just about watching stars go at it for their charities. It`s also a family affair for Donald Trump. And tonight, you won`t believe the reality secrets his daughter Ivanka reveals to me.
Welcome back to this special edition of SHOWBIZ TONIGHT, "SHOWBIZ Reality Secrets: Family Frenzy." I`m A.J. Hammer in Hollywood.
And it`s all in the family for the Trumps. I`m here to tell you, the Donald is not the only Trump who is tough and ready to take on the best in the boardroom.
His daughter, Ivanka, sits right by her dad`s side on "Celebrity Apprentice." So I`m thinking who better to reveal the secrets of working with Donald Trump than her?
I went one-on-one with Ivanka and got her to reveal some inside secrets to working with her famous father on "Celebrity Apprentice."
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IVANKA TRUMP, DONALD TRUMP`S DAUGHTER: For me, personally, I love watching these people who are bona fide successes in their various fields be confronted with challenges that are so outside of the realm of things that they have tackled before -
HAMMER: Sure.
I. TRUMP: And seeing how they use their skill set to overcome that.
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HAMMER: But what they also have to be good at doing I`ve noticed is you obviously have to learn how to win over your father, Donald Trump. What is the secret to doing that?
I. TRUMP: Well, a lot of it is reading cues so just, you know, with anything else. I`m always shocked by how many people in the boardroom will do the same thing over and over and over that makes my father semi-irate.
And you know, he will let them know and they continue to not address their personality accordingly. So it is - you know, it is a game in that regard.
HAMMER: One of the smartest things -
I. TRUMP: And some people just don`t seem to pick up on things.
HAMMER: And one of the smartest things that I think anybody`s ever done - Piers Morgan said, "I read all of his books before I went on the show to make sure I could feed into that stuff he likes to hear about."
You know, there was so much drama at the end of last season when your dad was sort of mulling over his possible run for the White House. And he`s kind of bowed out of that, poked back into it a little bit.
But now that the presidential race is in such turmoil, do you see him possibly jumping back in? Or has he said to you, "No way. I`m just not going to do it"?
I. TRUMP: Well, there`s only one potential candidate out there that I could throw my vote behind, and that would be him. So you know, I wish he would run.
I understand that it takes a lot to do that, you know, psychologically, emotionally, work-wise. He`s got a lot on his plate in other endeavors. But you know, I do think he would be an amazing candidate and an amazing president.
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HAMMER: Ah, yes, spoken like a true Trump off the old block. Former "The Apprentice" Martha Stewart star, Bethenny Frankel is no stranger to reality TV, of course.
I mean, listen to this list. She went from "The Apprentice" to "The Real Housewives of New York." She got her own spin-off called "Bethenny Getting Married." And then, "Bethenny Ever After." Watch.
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BETHENNY FRANKEL, REALITY TV SHOW: The bathrooms are exactly where the guests are. In order for me to pee, I have to walk through my guests with the wedding dress, which is what we`ve tried to avoid the entire time.
I can`t walk through the guests. I`m like, "Hey, everybody. Just stopping to the loo," and just go and yell, "Let me just lift my leg and then walk down the aisle."
I just can`t go pee. Pee in a bucket. Pee in a bucket at my wedding? That`s so sleazy. I`m peeing in a bucket. I`m not the girl that wants to pee on the side of the road at my wedding.
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HAMMER: So you see that and you would think that after getting married and having a baby on TV - you`d think that Bethenny would want to continue to share her and her family`s lives with all of us.
Well, that may not be the case. Listen to what Bethenny told SHOWBIZ TONIGHT about having her daughter on reality TV.
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FRANKEL: Oh, I don`t know if I want my baby to be on reality TV anymore.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Enough is enough for now?
FRANKEL: Enough is enough for now, especially for her. She didn`t make this choice, you know. She`s going to be a powerful woman on her own, hopefully. Or she may be an artist, whatever she wants to do.
She may want to be, you know, use crayons and color for the rest of her life, and that`s fine with me and that`s why I did all this.
But I don`t want her to be forced into choices that she didn`t make. And that`s what being on reality television is for her now.
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HAMMER: Well, look at that. I guess we won`t be seeing a show called "Bethenny`s Kid Goes to Kindergarten" anytime soon.
Well, one family that certainly doesn`t mind living their lives on TV are the Braxtons. They`re a family of super-talented singers.
And when the cameras roll for their hit reality series, "Braxton Family Values," these sisters expose it all. SHOWBIZ TONIGHT`s Carlos Diaz asked reality star sisters, Tamar and Trina Braxton if there`s anything at all that`s off limits on their show.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: If something is not supposed to be discussed, they definitely don`t tell me.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Right.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Because I`m the person who calls everybody out. So you know, they kind of keep me mum about the situations that they have that they want to keep a secret.
CARLOS DIAZ, GUEST HOST: But I mean, it`s kind of a paradox because for your show to be successful, you`ve got to be real. But in order to be real, sometimes you`ve got to reveal things on camera to both you guys.
Has there ever been a situation where you went, "Oh, man, I can`t believe we just said that on camera."
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Well, honestly, I never knew my mug shot was going to be shown from my DUI, and my wig was going to be snatched, so bring a comb.
DIAZ: Really? What`s worse, the mug shot or the headless - the wigless head?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I think the wigless head, because she didn`t comb her hair for a couple of days. And you make sure you comb your hair, girls.
DIAZ: All right. There we go. See? Comb your hair. Now, no one ever accused you guys of holding back.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: No.
DIAZ: I mean, seriously, on your show, which I love, you guys are all out there. Let`s watch some of this action.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Uh-oh.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I need to fill in on the morning show that we just did in Chicago.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Let me hear your radio voice.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Get your ass out.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You put GPS on my phone. You put a tracker on my phone. That`s not OK, Gabe.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: OK, do you -
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I don`t do that to you. I`ve never checked your messages. I didn`t hack into your stuff like did me. And (EXPLETIVE DELETED) you with (EXPLETIVE DELETED) couch and that horse you just rode up in on because that`s (EXPLETIVE DELETED) right there, Gabe.
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DIAZ: How do you make your voice be that high? It`s amazing how you guys do that. Trina, when Tamar is pushing ahead with her solo act and you`re juggling so much at home and the cameras are capturing every twist and turn in your life, what`s your secret keeping your family together despite all that drama that surround you guys?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We don`t live together. I can`t live with my sisters. I think that because we don`t live together, we actually enjoy seeing each other outside of our work element.
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HAMMER: Time apart - it works every time. Moving now to the big "Top Model" finale.
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TYRA BANKS, SUPERMODEL: America`s next top model is - Lisa.
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HAMMER: Lisa wins, but what the heck happened to Angelea. One of the top three contestants just disappeared from "The America`s Next Top Model" finale. What happened? I asked the winner top model all-stars, Lisa D`Amato, next.
This is a special edition of SHOWBIZ TONIGHT, "SHOWBIZ Reality Secrets." Rapper T.I. reveals to me how he balances family and work on his VH1 docu- series, "T.I. and Tiny: The Family Hustle."
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T.I., RAPPER: It`s how we interact as a family and how we overcome obstacles as a family, how close we are, how I manage to have days like today, but still make it to, you know, the father-daughter breakfast that I`m going to with my daughter.
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HAMMER: All star secrets. Tonight, there`s a big shroud of mystery over one of the biggest finales on "America`s Top Model" ever.
Millions of people were watching as Tyra Banks crowned Lisa D`Amato, the first ever winner of "America`s Next Top Model All Star."
She beat out two other finalists, Angelea Preston and Allison Harvard. In the end, it was Lisa who came out on top. And frankly, one look at her and you can understand why.
Joining me here in Hollywood, Lisa D`Amato, winner of "America`s Next Top Model." First of all, congratulations.
LISA D`AMATO, WINNER, "AMERICA`S NEXT TOP MODEL": Thank you so much.
HAMMER: How excited are you?
D`AMATO: I`m so stoked that it`s actually out and I don`t have to keep it a secret anymore, and it`s amazing. I cannot wait.
HAMMER: But there`s still all this mystery. I want to talk about your big win, obviously. But let`s talk about this mystery. All of a sudden, last night, everybody is buzzing about the fact that Angelea just disappeared from the competition. Let`s take a look at how the judges explained what happened.
D`AMATO: OK.
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BANKS: We`re here for a special finale that`s being conducted under unusual circumstances.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes, it turns out that after shooting was wrapped, our production team and the network learned information from Angelea that disqualifies her from the competition. We`re now going to do the final judging with the remaining two girls.
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HAMMER: OK. That left everybody a little confused.
D`AMATO: Yes.
HAMMER: Help me out here, Lisa. There were reports that maybe she won. Maybe she had leaked the information on her Facebook page. They re-shot some scenes so people thought, oh, maybe she was going to be announced the winner, taking nothing away from you, of course. But can you clear up what happened?
D`AMATO: I actually don`t know either. I think it`s all speculation and it`s rumors that just get built up, just like in high school. It just happens.
And if you find out, let me know, honestly. It`s interesting, though, because I don`t even know. But you know, on the show, it`s a competition. And girls drop like flies before lunch, like, that`s how it goes. So we`re all just used to that. And -
HAMMER: And one of the secrets to being on any reality show is typically they have you sign things that say you will not disclose any information until the final show is aired. And then you`re free to basically come on here and talk about it.
D`AMATO: Yes, absolutely. I will talk about whatever if you can just double the money.
HAMMER: There you go.
D`AMATO: So you know - then we`ll negotiate. Just kidding.
HAMMER: OK. Well, and you`re out of luck with me. But ultimately, you won fair and square, hands down. You sang, you flew and swam your way into the finale. How great is this moment for you?
D`AMATO: It`s incredible. I`m from Los Angeles, so you know, people are constantly getting rewarded for taboo and selling out or, you know, scandal.
So for me, personally, constantly being in this industry and working my butt off and being genuine to myself, it means so much. It`s like validation that if you stay true and genuine, that hard work can prosper.
And for this opportunity in general for the all-stars, you know, it was preparation meets opportunity. This is what I`ve been doing my whole life and I`m not going to stop.
HAMMER: Yes. Well, good for you and congratulations again.
D`AMATO: Thank you.
HAMMER: And I know it also provides you with a great platform to help people and I think that`s more important than any of it. Lisa D`Amato, congratulations on winning "America`s Next Top Model All-Stars." Good for you. All right.
Well, that is it for SHOWBIZ TONIGHT. Thank you so much for watching. I`m A.J. Hammer in Hollywood. And this has been a special edition of SHOWBIZ TONIGHT, "SHOWBIZ Reality Star Secrets." Have a good night.
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