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Brady`s Wife Slams Super Bowl Losing-Patriots; Boyence`s First Pictures After Giving Birth; Adele, Slammed by Karl Lagerfeld; Chris Brown and Rihanna, Friends Again?
Aired February 07, 2012 - 23:00 ET
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A.J. HAMMER, HLN HOST (voice-over): Big news breaking tonight on "SHOWBIZ TONIGHT."
Bundchen`s bad rap? The furious new debate today after Tom Brady`s supermodel`s wife slams his Super Bowl losing Patriots.
Tonight, is Giselle getting a bad rap for standing by her man? It`s the showbiz` great debate.
The Adele "fat" spat. Tonight, legendary designer Karl Lagerfeld`s shocking slam of this superstar singer. "SHOWBIZ TONIGHT" dares to ask. Is he way out of line?
Beyonce`s big coming out. The stunning, very first pictures today of Beyonce since she gave birth as she goes to see her hubby, Jay-Z, in concert.
Tonight, Beyonce is perfect, post baby body revealed.
TV`s most provocative entertainment news show breaks news right now.
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HAMMER: Hello, I`m A.J. Hammer in New York with big news breaking tonight.
A bad rap for Bundchen? Tonight, supermodel Giselle Bundchen is getting bashed left and right much like the New York giants, bash her quarter hubby, Tom Brady, and his New England patriots and the Super Bowl. It`s all because she was caught on tape saying it wasn`t his fault the patriots lost. Giselle blames his teammates that couldn`t catch what he was throwing.
Now, at first, Giselle was accused of throwing the Brady bunch under the bus and breaking that unwritten code of silence about this kind of stuff. But "SHOWBIZ TONIGHT" can tell you that something actually fascinating happened today. A turning of the tide. Support Giselle.
People saying, she just blurted out what a whole lot of people were thinking and standing by her man. Tonight, "SHOWBIZ TONIGHT" with the great debate over the possible "Bundchen blunder."
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HAMMER (voice-over): Today, while the Super Bowl champion New York giants celebrated with a parade, Giselle Bundchen is suffering a parade of criticism.
GISELLE BUNDCHEN, SUPER MODEL: My husband cannot (beep) throw the call and catch the ball at the same time.
HAMMER: This insider video surfaced of Giselle slamming her husband Tom Brady`s New England`s Patriots teammates after they lost the Super Bowl. And now, everyone`s hunting Giselle, especially in the giants` home base of New York. "Super ball" reads the "Daily News," ball buster, players the "New York post." He is in the Patriots` home town paper, the "Boston Herald" is going after their quarter back`s wife, calling Giselle a "super brat."
No question when on Sunday it was Tom Brady getting kicked around. Today it`s Giselle.
PIERS MORGAN, CNN HOST: This may well make her the sorest loser in Super Bowl history.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You can`t come down on the other guys on the team.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You kind of don`t slam your husband`s teammates on camera.
HAMMER: All right, enough. "SHOWBIZ TONIGHT" is calling a "time-out" on all the Giselle bashing and we`re defending her.
Giselle defense number one. She was standing by her man.
BUNDCHEN: My husband cannot (beep) throw the call and catch the ball at the same time.
HAMMER: After all she was only responding to an obnoxious fan of giant`s quarterback Eli Manning who was insulting Giselle`s hubby as she walked by. Talk show host Wendy Williams tells "SHOWBIZ TONIGHT," Giselle was just being a good wife.
WENDY WILLIAMS, TALK SHOW HOST: She`s standing by her man and being supportive.
HAMMER: And the other Giselle defense? The truth defense.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He didn`t even catch the ball when he was supposed to catch the ball.
HAMMER: The former "Bachelor" star, Bob Guiney tell "SHOWBIZ TONIGHT," Giselle was just keeping it real.
BOB GUINEY, FORMER STAR, BACHELOR: Hey guys. It`s the truth. They did drop passes in the last drive of the game.
HAMMER: And face it, Giselle didn`t say anything that dejected Patriots fans were not saying themselves Sunday night. But perhaps the best thing about Giselle`s tirade is that it opened up a whole set of new possible career prospects for her. Seeing how good he is at dropping F-bombs.
BUNDCHEN: My husband cannot (beep) throw the call and catch the ball at the same time.
HAMMER: We think she`d be right at home on an NFL spinoff of VH 1`s "Basketball Wives." And her obvious knowledge of football strategy would make her a natural NFL reporter for ESPN.
Either way. This Giselle flap is another example of how hard it can be to be the wife of a pro athlete, as we know. Not everyone can hack it.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He fell in love with me and I fell in love with me and now my feelings have changed. If I wasted everyone`s time --
HAMMER: But just like in an elite NFL player, Giselle has handling her job with a lot of style and a touch of grid.
BUNDCHEN: My husband cannot (beep) throw the call and catch the ball at the same time.
HAMMER: So, if her husband can always kick butt on the football field, at least his wife can kick butt off.
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HAMMER: Yes. And kick butt she did which is why "SHOWBIZ TONIGHT" is asking tonight whether Giselle is just getting a bad rap here.
With me tonight in New York, I`m thrilled to have somebody who knows what it`s like to be married to a sports star, Vanessa Williams. Vanessa of course stars on "Desperate Housewives." and she was a big presence on Super Bowl night.
Vanessa, the voice of the chief chocolate officer in the hilarious new commercial for M&M`s that debut on Super Bowl night. Always great to see you.
VANESSA WILLIAMS, STAR, DESPERATE HOUSEWIVES: Thank you very much.
HAMMER: Thank you for being here. And of course, you were married to Rick Fox, a huge star with the Lakers.
WILLIAMS: During championship time, so I know how heated it gets.
HAMMER: I was curious if you could identify with Giselle, let`s watch again exactly what she said in defense of her husband, which is something I would, quite frankly, would expect her to say. Roll that, Charles.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He didn`t even catch the ball when he was supposed to catch the ball.
BUNDCHEN: My husband cannot (beep) throw the call and catch the ball at the same time.
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HAMMER: So when you see that and I want to get to our showbiz flash point, do you think Giselle here is getting a bad rap or was she out of line like everybody was saying after this broke?
WILLIAMS: Well, I do agree that she was defending her husband. But it is a team sport and people get crazy during championships. I lived through three Lakers championships and people that lose get nuts and they start swearing and they threaten your kids and you can turn into a lioness. So, I get it. I get it. I mean, both sides because that is team sport and everybody has components and parts and roles to play, but when you`re defending your family I can understand how heated it gets when people start swearing at you. I get it.
HAMMER: You`re protective. It`s natural.
WILLIAMS: Exactly.
HAMMER: So you get, though, it sounds like, why people were piling on her so much? I mean, that could not have been easy for her these past couple of days but it sounds like it doesn`t surprise you.
WILLIAMS: It doesn`t surprise me. I mean, again. These are extraordinary circumstances. You get down to the end and unfortunately, they didn`t win. And you know, it`s hard for her and hard for her to support her husband and be there and comfort him when I`m sure he`s feeling awful. So, you just want to make him feel better.
"SHOWBIZ TONIGHT" Well, regardless of whether or not she was right to say what she said or not right.
WILLIAMS: She has to watch her mouth, that`s the bottom line.
HAMMER: That gets to my next showbiz flashpoint, because a lot of the debate was over whether or not she broke this unwritten code that there should be silence by family members of players. So, what do you think? Did Giselle break this sacred code, Vanessa?
WILLIAMS: Yes. You do protect your team when you are a part of a team, any unit and a family. So, you don`t really speak out of terms. I understand the fight. I understand the protection but you also have to watch your mouth even if people are swearing at you.
HAMMER: Yes. It was certainly, it appeared to be, anyway, a heat of the moment type of thing and you know, being in the public eye, even when you get to that heat of the moment you have to be careful not to cross that threshold.
WILLIAMS: Exactly. Watch what you say.
HAMMER: Yes. Well, there are some other big news today that I want to get your take on. Another wife standing by her man. Beyonce. "SHOWBIZ TONIGHT" obtained today the first pictures of "B" stepping out in New York City. It was for great thing to do. She was attending a concert given by her husband, Jay-Z. This was her first public appearance since giving birth and it was a benefit concert. What a coming out for her it was. She looks gorgeous, terrific pictures of this new mom.
Beyonce revealing a perfect post-baby bud. Keep in mind, it is exactly one month after she gave birth. Wow. I`m just looking at those pictures and I`m thinking, gave birth to a child? You know? Was it possible?
So, here`s our next flash point. Is Beyonce`s post baby body going to make other women feel inferior or should we look at it simply as inspiration?
WILLIAMS: Well, I`ve been through it four times. I`ve given birth four different times and that`s one of those things. I give myself a nine-month window. It took me nine months to get to that size and I would give myself me nine months to get back to my body, my original weight.
She looks phenomenal. She obviously has - she`s been dedicated and she looks fantastic and it`s her first.
HAMMER: Yes.
WILLIAMS: It gets harder once you have the second and third and fourth. So honey, good luck with the first. Bring on the other kids.
HAMMER: Let`s see. It will be two months. We would just have to wait and see.
WILLIAMS: Exactly.
HAMMER: We must move from real life drama to TV`s most desperate drama, Vanessa.
Now, of course, there`s a lot of news here at "SHOWBIZ TONIGHT" that we`re thought tackling here with the "desperate Housewives." Vanessa is back with final season as the spoiled rich lady Renee Perry. We want to know what deep, dark, house wife secrets are going to be revealed.
Vanessa, I need to know. Is your character going to left standing when we say good-bye to wisteria lane? I need to know. Is something is going to happen? And I`m going to let you know you can think about it but you can tell me. I`ll give you a little time about how you`re going to put it but let me know.
And now we move on to Clooney`s Oscar feud?
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GEORGE CLOONEY, ACTOR: I loved to have been around all those players and been around "money ball," I think that would have been really fun.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You would been better than Brad Pitt?
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HAMMER: Is it really Clooney versus Pitt? Did George just admit he`s jealous of his buddy`s Brad`s Oscar-nominated performance in "money ball?"
Well tonight, it is a must see. Showbiz newsmaker interview with George Clooney.
Plus, a shocking celebrity showdown. Legendary fashion designer Karl Lagerfeld blasts Adele and says she`s too fat. "SHOWBIZ TONIGHT" dare to asks, is the fashion icon way out of line?
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: If you`re going to steal cars don`t dress like a car thief.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You a cop?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You seriously think I`m a cop?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Who are you?
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HAMMER: Is your spidy sense tingling? That`s right there my friend, the very first footage from amazing "Spiderman." Yes. That`s the spidy reboot that everyone, I mean everyone has been waiting for.
And tonight right here, your "showbiz" first look. I`m going to have that first look for you in just a moment.
Welcome back to "SHOWBIZ TONIGHT." I`m A.J. Hammer in New York.
And tonight, "showbiz" breaks news. "SHOWBIZ TONIGHT" goes one on one with Oscar nominee Gary Oldman in a surprising newsmaker interview.
Now, we spoke with him at the big Oscar preview lunch in Hollywood. This is where all the nominees show up. Gary, made a monster revelation to "SHOWBIZ TONIGHT" Michelle Turner.
See. It turns out Gary actually lost his personal script for Batman when he was playing a cop at the franchise. Here now is that stunning brand new confession from the legendary actor, Gary Oldman.
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GARY OLDMAN, ACTOR: In a hotel room, they sometimes vault the bed. They take the cover and then put it like so at the bottom of the, you know. And I think it wouldn`t go in the safe. And I didn`t want to leave it in my bag so I put it in among the blankets and things and I thought, I`ll just hide it there. And I had forgotten where I put it --
MICHELLE TURNER, SHOWBIZ TONIGHT CORRESPONDENT: That script is like top secret.
OLDMAN: I know. I know.
TURNER: What is that feeling like? Oh, my God, I`ve lost the top secret "Batman" script?
OLDMAN: It`s panic.
TURNER: It was panic.
OLDMAN: And mine was complete, so it had --. To some scripts don`t have the ending. And some actors only got pages. So I had a whole, complete script. So I did, I panicked. I panicked for about 20 minutes.
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HAMMER: Well, we move now from a lost "Batman" script to your "showbiz" first look at the highly-anticipated Spiderman reboot. The amazing "Spiderman." Now, this is a stunning re-imagination of the entire "Spiderman" franchise and we`re revealing your "showbiz" first look.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: How did you get up there?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Fire escape.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It`s 20 stories.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The doorman is nice to me.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Tell us a little bit about yourself, Mr. Parker?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Not much to tell, really.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Peter lives with his aunt and uncle.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Did you catch the spider guy yet?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No, but we will. He wears a mask like an outlaw.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I think he`s trying to do something the police can`t.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Can`t?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: If you`re going to steal cars don`t dress like a car thief.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You a cop?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You seriously think I`m a cop and a skin-tight red and blue suit?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Who are you?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I know it`s been rough for you, Peter.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I forgot all about that thing. It was your dads.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Your father was a very a secretive man, Peter.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I wish Parker is you son.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Your father and I were going to change the lives of millions, including mine. Extraordinary. How did you come up with this? There`s a rumor of a new species in New York. It can be aggressive if threatened.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You got to stop him. I created him I got to stop him.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: That`s not your job.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Maybe it is.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: 38 of New York`s finest versus one guy in a unitary.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: If you want the truth Peter, come and get it!
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I am issues an arrest warrant for the masked vigilante known as "Spiderman."
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Incredible!
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HAMMER: Sign me up with that looks cool.
Peter Parker and the amazing "Spiderman" swing into theater this is summer.
The amazing new photos of Oscar nominee Viola Davis, look at her. She`s going all natural in a stunning new photo spread. So, could this actually be the start of a big new trend in Hollywood? And I hope so.
The Adele "fat" spat. Iconic fashion designer Karl Lagerfeld bizarre slam of the superstar singer Adele. Why did he just rip her for not being as skinny as one of his runway models.
This is "SHOWBIZ TONIGHT" on HLN "news and views." Time for our showbiz news ticker. More stories from the "SHOWBIZ TONIGHT" news ticker making news tonight.
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JENNA DEWAN, CHANNING TATUM`S WIFE: It`s funny. I get asked a lot and I deciding that I don`t -- it doesn`t happen enough to people keep asking, do you need to practice? We`ll work on those more. But, I`m lucky. We both are dancers so we like to go out and dance and have none every now and then, but not strip clubs.
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HAMMER: Here`s what the "SHOWBIZ TONIGHT" staff is buzzing about. Our DVRs are set for the brand new season of "Revenge" on ABC, all about death and drama and it`s not served cold.
Well, she may be gone but she has not forgotten. We are reading Etta James powerful 1995 autobiography "Rage to Survive."
Gamers, rejoice! We can`t get enough of the brand new probe pink edition of Nintendo 3DS. You have got 3D gaming right in your hand.
Wardrobe, please. Project runway winner, Anya Ayoung-Chee returns home to (inaudible) design costumes for the carnival later this month.
And the premiere of "Smash" on NBC was so good, we`re betting it is going to be a smash hit.
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HAMMER: Here she is, Viola Davis going natural, all natural. Viola Davis, like you`ve never seen before, sans wig, racket. Her natural tresses. Viola Davis is hot in Hollywood right now but not just because of her Oscar-nominated performance. But a photo spread she did for the "Los Angeles times," really has so many people talking to night. Viola left her wig at home. She opted to go with her natural hair.
With me in New York, Sonny Hostin, legal contributor for "In Session" on our sister network TruTV.
Sunny, look at this. Obviously, Viola looks incredible here. But why is it that these photos spread is getting such a big buzz tonight? I mean, this everywhere people can`t stop talking about it.
SUNNY HOSTIN, LEGAL CONTRIBUTOR, IN SESSION TRUTV: I think it`s because it`s so unexpected, right. You expect to see her the way you`ve always seen her with a wig. Sort of the way she looked I guess at the Oscars. At the S.A.G. awards rather.
But, my goodness, you see this woman that looks like a model. A woman that looks like she just did some sort of fashion show. And I just think that a woman of her age looking like this, taking this type of risk is just remarkable.
HAMMER: I`m don`t guessing you like it.
HOSTIN: I love it. I love it. I mean, I think she just looks extraordinary. It`s very artistic.
HAMMER: It`s artistic. And I think it`s going to be inspirational. But do you see it, perhaps, kicking off a trend with other women of color in Hollywood and beyond?
HOSTIN: I don`t know. I think, you know, if you talk to folks in the African-American community, hair is such a big deal. I mean, you know Chris Rock did his documentary on it. So, I don`t know. But perhaps, perhaps, because she just looks so phenomenal and I think it just makes a statement about beauty. It makes a statement about women and I just - I applaud her.
HAMMER: So you`d like to see that happen?
HOSTIN: I would. I would.
HAMMER: Can you imagine on Oscar night on the red carpet all of these women without wigs?
HOSTIN: All natural. Is that going to happen? It`s not going to happen. But I think it`s just remarkable.
HAMMER: Sunny, thanks so much.
And now time for our "showbiz" lineup. This is what`s coming up at the bottom of the hour on "SHOWBIZ TONIGHT."
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CLOONEY: I don`t think people know this but they should. Brad is like 5`2".
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I`ve seen him, that`s not true. He`s wearing high heels, wedges.
CLOONEY: He is much smaller in real life.
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HAMMER: Wow! I had no idea.
Clooney. And what Brad Pitt does not want you to know. But George Clooney gets ready to unleash a huge of the prank that might end Brad`s career.
Chris Brown and Rihanna at the Grammy`s, both performing in the award show this year. The first time on the same stage since the explosive abusive then between them before the Grammy`s three years ago. "Showbiz" dares to ask, is it finally time to forgive and forget?
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CLOONEY: I might have loved to have been around all those players and been around "money ball." I think that would have been really fun.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You would have been better than Brad Pitt.
HAMMER (voice-over): Big news breaking on "SHOWBIZ TONIGHT."
One-on-one with Oscar nominee, George Clooney. Tonight, George opens up to "SHOWBIZ TONIGHT" about his Oscar nomination and his big secret about his friend and fellow nominee, Brad Pitt.
Adele fat slam. Tonight, top designer Karl Lagerfeld slams Adele for her weight. The great debate tonight. Is he way out of line?
Chris Brown and Rihanna, reunited? Tonight, three years after Chris beat Rihanna, the two may come face-to-face at the Grammy`s. "SHOWBIZ TONIGHT" dares to ask, is it time to forgive and forget?
And the great Vanessa Williams is here breaking desperate news tonight in a must-see "showbiz" newsmaker interview.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE ANNOUNCER: TV`s most provocative entertainment news show continues right now.
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HAMMER: Welcome back to "SHOWBIZ TONIGHT." It`s 30 minutes past the hour and I`m A.J. Hammer New York. And we have got big news breaking tonight.
Chris Brown`s redemption? We`re now days away from the Grammy awards and it was just revealed today that for the first time in three years, Chris Brown is set to return to the stage for music`s biggest night. This is the same place where his career almost came to a screeching halt.
Let me roll out the "showbiz" news line. Remember, it was February of 2009 when the stunning news of Brown`s physical assault on his pop star girlfriend, Rihanna, surfaced. Just two months later, Brown would plead guilty to two felony charges of assault and making criminal threats. And in June of that same year, a last minute plea deal was announced and Brown was sentenced to community labor.
Well, just last month, both Brown and Rihanna raised eyebrows for reportedly partying in the same Los Angeles nightclub. This weekend, Chris Brown returns, but is America really ready to forgive him?
With me in New York, the always lovely and incomparable TV diva, Vanessa Williams, star of "Desperate Housewives." Vanessa is how lending her voice to "Mrs. Brown," an all new M&M`s character with attitude.
Also in New York tonight, Sunny Hostin, legal contributor for "In Session" on our sister station TruTv.
So Sunny, this will be their first public appearance together. But Chris Brown and Rihanna have reportedly become friends again and they are tweeting each other, apparently partying in the same venues which really is kind stunning given what we all saw unfold in their relationship three years ago. But he`s completed his community service. He has paid his dues.
So, here`s our flash point. Chris Brown returning to the Grammy`s. Is it finally time to forgive and forget? What do you think, Sunny?
HOSTIN: I`m really conflicted about this. Because I think when you`re a role model to younger people which, I think Chris Brown was and Rihanna is, you have to stand for something and I what also believe that people are entitled to get back on track. People are entitled to redemption.
So I`m a bit conflicted about this. Of course he should be able to go on with his career. He`s paid his dues. He has completed his community service. But I don`t know that we can forget that he physically assaulted his girlfriend. And that he pled guilty to doing so.
So I think there`s much more work to be done for Chris Brown. But should he have a chance? Should he have a chance to get back on track? I think so.
HAMMER: Yes. I`m right there with you. And I had said all along, if Chris can stay on the straight and narrow then it will certainly become easier to forgive him but he did make a couple of miss steps early on. We haven`t heard a lot lately. Let`s hope he continues on the path.
Now, Rihanna has been very outspoken about the violence in her relationship. And I want to get back to the topic you bring up, Sunny, of role model. And should somebody be a role model because as you would expect, a lot of her fans are not really happy about her rekindling any kind of friendship with Chris.
So what do you think? At this point does Rihanna still have a responsibility to set an example for her fans and other young women or should people let her get on with her life doing whatever she chooses even if h that includes not being a role model for that anymore?
HOSTIN: Is that for me or for Vanessa?
HAMMER: For you, Sunny.
HOSTIN: I think that she has to be a role model. She is in that position. She`s in the public space. And she now has this experience of having been physically abused, of having been battered. So, I think she does still have work to do in that space. She same out so publicly and I remember when that story broke, A.J., we were talking about it then and I got so many e-mails and tweets and facebook comments from young girls that really empathized with her and had that the same experience.
HAMMER: Yes.
HOSTIN: So, there`s still work to be done in the area of domestic violence and I think as a role model, she should still continue to speak out on behalf of all those women that have been abused.
HAMMER: And I continue to give her credit for having hold her head up high during all this. And look, it is going to be part of her story forever.
I do want to move to another big story that is breaking with this weekend`s Grammy awards. This really surprised me. There`s a firestorm erupting after celebrity fashion designer Karl Lagerfeld slammed one of music`s biggest stars. He called Adele you`ve weight.
Lagerfeld just gave a new interview to "Metro Paris" magazine and he was asked about some of this week`s big names making the headlines. Obviously Adele being one of them. So many Grammy nominations. Here`s what he said about here.
"The thing at the moment is Adele. She`s a little too fat, but she has a beautiful face and a divine voice."
Now, let`s remember, he`s a fashion icon. He goes to work every day, you know, with women who are probably barely a size two. But, that takes us to our flash point. Is he way out of line for making that comment?
Vanessa, I actually think it is out of line. I don`t think anybody should call anybody out on weight like that.
WILLIAMS: The beautiful thing about making music, it`s about the music. It`s about her voice. You can close your eyes and get lost in the talent that she`s been given. So, that`s also, as being an artist and musician, that`s the joy. You don`t have to worry about looking like a movie star. You`re worried about your instrument and making sure you sound good.
HAMMER: -- which is why I love the show, "the Voice" so much.
WILLIAMS: Yes.
HAMMER: You are not looking them. They judged on purely, you know --
WILLIAMS: It`s about the music. She`s not a movie star. So, she shouldn`t have or she`s not a fashion model.
HAMMER: And here`s why this surprised me even more. Let me put up this pictures we have of Karl Lagerfeld. This is from a few years back. If we could put that up. That`s side by side of how he looks now. He was much heavier than he is today. He took it upon himself to lose a whopping 92 pounds in just 13 months. He went on to write a book about it.
Sunny, have been gone through himself, I would think that he would have been, you know, a little more sensitive and not make such a hurtful comment like that.
HOSTIN: You would think - I mean, clearly, he surrounds himself with women that weigh like five pounds. And so, I understand his perspective. But to use the f word like that when so many women are told that they are not beautiful because of their weight, when we`re told that we have to weigh five pounds in order to be attractive and you have this woman who is beautiful, who has a beautiful voice, you know, and is a role model, I think, for those folks that struggle with their appearance. I just think it`s horrible that Karl Lagerfeld would do that and I got to tell you, I`m such a huge channel fan.
HAMMER: And guess what?
Hey Listen. To her credit, Adele has reportedly responding saying, you know what? I`m proud of my curves. I enjoy the fact that I still indulge in my favorite foods. You know, good luck to you, Adele. Best of luck on Sunday night.
I do want to get your take on Octavia Spencer who is now throwing down a big challenge in Hollywood. She just went one-on-one in a really candid interview with Kareen Wynter.
Kareen, joining us now from Hollywood. And Octavia, Kareen, really going to need to clear some space on her mantle, I`m thinking. You know she`s got the golden globe. She got the SAG award, maybe an Oscar.
But now, she`s using her new higher profile to try to make some real headway in the Hollywood. What is she trying to change?
KAREEN WYNTER, SHOWBIZ TONIGHT ENTERTAINMENT CORRESPONDENT: That`s right, A.J. You know, I just talked to the lovely Octavia Spencer. And you hit right on the head. She`s hot in Hollywood right now. I`m talking on fire.
Her new award-winning movie has producers, A.J., has directors taking notes. This woman has everyone`s attention and she is using her new platform to really shine a light on the need for diversity on the big screen. Watch what she just told me.
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OCTAVIA SPENCER, ACTRESS: I just think being visible helps our cause. You know, it gives more women a shot. It give more women of color. I don`t think - I think people mistakenly think when we say "of color" that we mean only black. "Of color" is Latina. "Of color" is Asian. "OF color" is Indian, Native American. We live in a very multifaceted, multicultural world and that needs to be represented in our media as well.
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WYNTER: A.J., such a talent, really so passionate about everything she does. And I think we can expect to hear so much more from Octavia as we approach the big Oscar night later this month. Isn`t she just incredible?
HAMMER: She is incredible. And good for her for speaking up about something that she clearly so strongly believes in.
Right now, I do have to move on to another big burning question tonight. There are rampant reports about a big, I`m talking big jaw-dropper just ahead on "Desperate Housewives."
Reports say, someone, a housewife, bites the dust, the horror. Now, Vanessa Williams, you have got to give me a hint about exactly what we can expect. So please, stay right there and think about how you want to put this but I expect an answer from you, Vanessa. That`s coming up in just a moment. Thank you for being here.
And "SHOWBIZ TONIGHT" is going one-on-one tonight with the great George Clooney at the Oscar`s luncheon. George opens up about his Oscar nomination and sharing a little known fact about his friend and fellow nominee, Brad Pitt.
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CLOONEY: Well, I don`t think people know this but they should. Brad is like 5`2".
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I`ve seen him, that`s not true. He wears high heels. Wedges.
CLOONEY: He`s much small her real life.
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HAMMER: Big Brad Pitt in heels. I had no idea. Tonight, George Clooney unplugged about the Oscars and what he and the whole Pitt-Jolie clan actually do when they spend time together.
This is "SHOWBIZ TONIGHT" on HLN, "News and views." This is the "showbiz" news ticker, more stories from the "SHOWBIZ TONIGHT" newsroom, making news tonight.
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HAMMER: Welcome back to "SHOWBIZ TONIGHT." I`m A.J. Hammer in New York.
Tonight, one-on-one with the Hollywood giant, George Clooney. George, he is one lucky guy. He has nominated for two Oscars. One for best actor for "the descendants" of course and the other the best adapted screen play for the "the ides of March." And by the way, of course he`s facing off in the best actor category against his very good friend, Brad Pitt.
"SHOWBIZ TONIGHT" Kareen Wynter was right there at the Oscars Luncheon in Hollywood who caught up with Clooney. Kareen, I`m guessing that George is, as usual, pretty humble about all of these?
WYNTER: A.J., as always, George, he`s so charming, so funny and as you mentioned, humble. It was such a rare sight to see all the best actor nominees pose for pictures at the Oscar luncheon and George, he told me this is actually one of his favorite parts about the Oscars Luncheon, catching up with old friends.
You know, when I sat down with George and his "descendants" director, Alexander Pane. George talked to me about his two, two big nominations and in pure George Clooney style he had to poke a little fun. And, of course, you know who I`m talking about here.
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WYNTER: You guys are really having fun with this, living in the moment. Does it get any better than this, really?
CLOONEY: There are better things in life, I suppose, but this is really fun.
WYNTER: This is nice.
CLOONEY: What is nights is that we get to spend time with people we`ve known over the years and we got to meet new friends along the way soy really enjoy this part of it.
WYNTER: Did you know George paid you a highest compliment earlier? He said you gave him the role of a lifetime.
CLOONEY: That`s true.
WYNTER: Yes?
CLOONEY: Yes.
CLOONEY: Not that I did, but the one --
WYNTER: What does that mean, though? Such a big star?
ALEXANDER PAYNE, DIRECTOR: But I feel, I`m not just to like an automatic, we have to return that favor. But I feel the huge gift that he gave me by acting so well in the film. And being such a good partner in that way.
WYNTER: How gratifying is it to be recognized for your performance in "the descendants" and your writing in "the ides of March?" A pretty big deal.
CLOONEY: It`s fun. You know it`s funny for me for writing because Grant and I were nominated for "good night and good luck" and to be nominated again for writing it sure put you in a very rare (inaudible) for writing. And that`s fun because it`s a big passion of mine. It means important to me.
WYNTER: Got to ask you, though. You are good friends with Brad Pitt who is up in the same category.
CLOONEY: Yes, he is. He wrote, as well. No.
WYNTER: What`s the one thing, George, that would surprise us that really would get under Brad`s skin.
CLOONEY: Well, I don`t think people know this and they should. Brad is like 5`2".
WYNTER: I`ve seen him. That`s not true. High Heels. Wedges.
CLOONEY: He`s much, much smaller in real life. And you would know. You would understand.
Hey, listen. He`s so good in two movies this year. He`s done a really good job. So, it`s fun because - you know the truth is people think out in the rest of the world that we get to spend all this time together and we really don`t and so it`s fun to get a chance to see him.
WYNTER: So when you`re together with Brad and Angelina, what do y`all talk about? When you are trying to catch out?
CLOONEY: You know, getting out on a motorcycle and getting some fresh air every once in a while. We talk about sort of the things that everybody -- good friends talk about when they haven`t seen each other for a long time.
WYNTER: The normal stuff, right? You know all the films nominated this season for the academy awards. Is there one in particular that you would have loved to be a part of?
PAYNE: I love the last hour of "Hugo." When you see George Miller (ph) directing those early films, I was just in heaven. I never wanted it to stop. And I would have so enjoyed being on that set, watching them shoot that. I don`t know in what capacity but I would have lot to see how they - - what their process was in recreating that, early cinema.
WYNTER: Wow. And quickly to you , George. What film?
CLOONEY: I don`t know. You know, I tell you. I played baseball growing up. So I might loved to have been around all those players, been around "money ball." I think that would have been really fun.
PAYNE: You would have been better than Brad Pitt.
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WYNTER: George, you know all about timing. In honor of all our fabulous nominees we have these cookies and you can see the faces, the similarity, there, you get to have one, too, Alexander. But this is, of course, George Clooney and your buddy, Brad Pitt and take perhaps -- take a bite out of Brad.
CLOONEY: Well, I have to say this, what bothers me is, fist of all the likeness is scary.
WYNTER: It`s pretty scary, isn`t it?
CLOONEY: And I like how you did not capture my grey.
PAYNE: That makes me feel better.
WYNTER: It`s pretty black.
CLOONEY: So I`m not going to eat it.
PAYNE: Which one is you and which one is Brad.
WYNTER: This is Brad.
CLOONEY: I hold the money on it.
WYNTER: You will never get this chance again to take a bite out of Brad.
CLOONEY: No, someone should. Thank you very much.
WYNTER: Thank you so much.
CLOONEY: Thank you. So fun talking to you.
PAYNE: You, too.
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WYNTER: A.J., our customized cookies I think they actually scared George. He wouldn`t take a bite. But anyway, George such a loveable guy. And you know, the fact that he said he hadn`t seen Brad in about a year, I couldn`t believe that. They finally of course got to hang out at the S.A.G. awards a few weeks ago. They chatted up a storm yesterday the Oscars Luncheon. So, I guess it make sense with their busy schedules. But George told me, this is one of his favorite times of the year because he gets to celebrate with old friends.
HAMMER: It`s like a big old reunion. Well, we wish good luck to all, the nominees. "SHOWBIZ TONIGHT" Kareen Wynter, thank you so much.
Well, tonight, Vanessa Williams` breaking news to "SHOWBIZ TONIGHT."
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: What happened to your hair?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You happened to my hair.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Frank is the one guy in this (inaudible) town when knew who to relax a black woman`s hair.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Now, it looks like an extra from foxy brown.
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HAMMER: Yes. "Desperate Housewives" of course, in its last season ever, someone`s reportedly going to be killed off the show? Who? I get an answer straight from Vanessa Williams next.
This is "SHOWBIZ TONIGHT" on HLN, News and Views." And now, the showbiz news ticker. More stories from the "SHOWBIZ TONIGHT" newsroom making news tonight.
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TEXT: Channing Tatum and Rachel McAdams tell story about his x-rated prop joke on set of "the Vow."
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CHANNING TATUM, ACTOR: Yes. I was helping her out. She`s really worried about her performance in that scene and, you know, I want to make sure that she had a good reaction. You know, I was worried.
RACHEL MCADAMS, ACTRESS: He knows how method I am so he thought he constructed something, yes. So, I don`t have pretend too much.
TATUM: Helping you out.
MCADAMS: Yes.
TATUM: Just helping you out.
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HAMMER: Tonight, desperate secrets from "Desperate Housewives" star, Vanessa Williams. Would you believe it`s now been eight seasons since the series began? So, since Vanessa is right here in "SHOWBIZ TONIGHT," I have got to find out the desperate dish and if there`s any truth to all these movie buzz that`s floating around.
Back with me in New York, the lovely Vanessa Williams.
And of course here, we`re sad it`s the final season of "Desperate Housewives." Look, we knew this was going to happen. The buzz is that you a major character is going to get killed. And I want to let you know, Vanessa, you`re in a safe place right now to reveal to me the new --
WILLIAMS: Nobody will know, just the two of us.
HAMMER: Is it Renee Perry, your character, who is getting killed? Who is it? You can just tell me.
WILLIAMS: I cannot tell you. And unfortunately, I don`t tell any of us anything. That`s probably a good thing because we`re not under the pressure of (inaudible).
HAMMER: So you have not shot the show?
WILLIAMS: We have not shot - we have shot some things.
HAMMER: She`s been so careful. My goodness.
WILLIAMS: And all I can say is there`s a lot of reaction. And it`s pretty good. You have to tune in. And literarily we don`t know the script until the night before when it gets deliver and then we look and say, oh, my goodness.
HAMMER: Are you kind of hoping your character to gets killed?
WILLIAMS: No. I want to stick around until the end. I`m having a good time.
HAMMER: Here`s the thing. Mark Cherry who created the show of course says he`s very satisfy the way the series all ended. He says there`s no chance there`s going to be a movie. But you have to tell me. You know, a year from now the fans are buzzing about it. They start poking at you and the twitter and whatever, say, please, make a movie. Would you be on board for something like that?
WILLIAMS: I would absolutely would be on board if there were a movie. Buy again that`s his choice. It`s his creation. It`s his baby. So, unless he says "yes," it`s not going to happen.
HAMMER: I imagine of you came on strong with this terrific character. You got to have some pull.
WILLIAMS: Unfortunately not. But, you know, I jumped on the last two seasons. It`s been a fantastic ride and the women have been ridiculously nice to me.
HAMMER: Let`s talk about your latest ride. I got my M&M`s right here. I`m very excited. You lent your voice to Mrs. Brown on the Super Bowl commercial we all saw. Charles, can we see a bit of that right now?
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WILLIAMS: I said Mr. Primaries I`m flatter you`d love chocolate but I`m here strictly in a professional -- what`s wrong with him?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He thinks your naked.
WILLIAMS: My shell is brown. It just looks like I`m milk shovel is showing. Only a fool would think actually I`d show up naked.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: So, it`s kind of party. Hit it!
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HAMMER: There`s never been a sexier M&M? Why did you do this? This is fantastic!
WILLIAMS: Well, you know. I was asked and the profile the breakdown was they wanted a woman who was very intelligent and authoritative and my character Wilimina was part of the breakdown. I said, I kind a created that character and put in my voice down and they hired me and it`s been fantastic. You know, it`s -- Mrs. Brown is a behind the scenes for 70 years and she runs the whole show.
HAMMER: We got to go. I get an M&M out of the deal. Vanessa, great to see you.
And that`s it for "SHOWBIZ TONIGHT." thank you for watching. I`m A.J. Hammer in New York.
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