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Keeping Up with the Kardashian News; Taylor Armstrong Taking Heat for Her Book; Katy Perry and Russell Brand`s New Happily Ever After
Aired February 09, 2012 - 23:00 ET
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A.J. HAMMER, HOST: Big news breaking tonight on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT - keeping up with the Kardashian news. And Kim Kardashian`s mom is right here to take it all on.
Are the Kardashians really being sued over claims that their reality show is fake? Will Kim`s divorce be televised live from a courtroom?
Kris Jenner is here tonight to separate reality from reality TV. And she`s also serving up sex advice in the steamiest SHOWBIZ newsmaker interview ever.
Taylor Armstrong also here tonight and in the line of fire. "The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills" star taking brand-new heat over her controversial new book. The shocking details about her late husband abusing her. But SHOWBIZ tonight dares to ask, are her critics out of line?
Katy and Russell`s new happily ever after. The startling new revelations today about their just signed divorce settlement. Did Katy really sign it with a smiley?
TV`s most provocative entertainment news show breaks news right now.
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Hello. I`m A.J. Hammer in New York with big news breaking tonight - keeping up with Kris Jenner as she sets the record straight about all the Kardashian news that is breaking today.
The mother of the Kardashian clan right here with some romance and sex life advice just before Valentine`s Day. And Kris says she just may have the solution to heat up anyone`s love life, her new line of Zestra essential arousal oils.
There, I said actually that on television. I can`t believe it. Kris with us tonight from Hollywood. Terrific to have you here, Kris.
KRIS JENNER, REALITY TV STAR: Good job. Thank you. I`m excited to be here.
HAMMER: Well, as you well know, there`s always so many headlines breaking about you and your family every day. We`re going to take them on. OK. You ready? Here we go. Let`s dig in.
JENNER: OK. All right.
HAMMER: There`s one thing in particular that I need you to give me the reality on as far as your reality is concerned. It`s getting a lot of attention today, news that Kris Humphries divorce attorney actually wants to question you and Kim about that conversation you guys had about her marriage.
And I want to play it from you. It was this scene from "Kourtney and Kim take New York." Let`s watch that together.
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KIM KARDASHIAN, REALITY TV STAR: There`s something in my relationship that I just feel like isn`t right. I don`t know. I`m just like learning a lot of things about him that I didn`t really know before. And I don`t know - married life just isn`t what I thought it would be with him.
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HAMMER: All right, Kris. Here`s the deal and this is what obviously has fueled so many theories out there. On the show, that conversation plays out as having taken place in Dubai.
Kris Humphries attorney suggesting, no, it was actually shot two months after that trip. It was done on a sound stage in Hollywood after Kim had announced that she was getting divorced from Kris. Would you set the record straight? Where was that scene shot?
JENNER: We shot the entire episode in Dubai. And you know, I think people, you know, for whatever reason, everyone`s going to take a shot about something, and you know, challenge you at every turn no matter what it is.
And you know, at some point, you just have to let it roll off your back and deal with it. I can`t answer to every single person who decides, you know, to make a statement about or have a question about something we`re doing.
HAMMER: Sure.
JENNER: Because we`re out there, you know, just working hard and doing our thing and, you know, our show is our show. We actually have no scripts. We don`t - you know, contrary to popular belief, we love what we`re doing.
We`re excited to work together. We do travel a lot with the show. And it`s a lot of fun, so I`m sure there`s always going to be the naysayer out there.
HAMMER: Well, and that`s the deal with any reality TV. And of course, your show being the mother of all reality shows, people question where is the line between reality and what`s done for TV.
So you guys don`t do pickups or re-shoots of things that went well, but maybe didn`t have the shot right or anything like that? That does not happen is what you`re saying?
JENNER: I don`t do - you know, I don`t know about what everybody else is doing 24/7. But what we do is we do all of our interviews back in the studio in the valley where (UNINTELLIGIBLE) is located.
So we do all of our stuff there that is the actual interview we do between scenes and then it`s edited together, which is like most reality shows.
HAMMER: OK. Well, there`s another piece of Kardashian news that`s out there today that you`re well aware of, reports that if the divorce proceedings wind up in court, Kris Humphries actually wants cameras in the courtroom, which actually almost fits into the whole reality thing anyway. Would Kim be OK with that, Kris?
JENNER: Well, I mean, honestly, I`ve never really heard of a divorce proceeding going to, you know, a trial. I think those days are long gone, so that`s news to me. But I learn something new every day. And what I have learned is just leave it up to the attorneys because they do what they do really well.
And I`d probably messed that up if I`m in charge. I think that, you know, both of them are great people, and they just need to, you know, move on and get, you know, get on with their lives.
I don`t think it does anybody any good to speculate on what might have happened if it went to a courtroom.
HAMMER: Do you think that will actually happen?
JENNER: That`s - it`s been decades.
HAMMER: I mean, I know you say that it doesn`t really happen anymore. Is it pretty much your sense that this should never get as far as a courtroom?
JENNER: Well, I mean, that would be up to an attorney. You know, I don`t know why anything like that would end up in a courtroom. But stranger things have happened.
HAMMER: Stranger things have happened. So of course, when Kim first revealed that she was divorcing Kris, look, there was so much out there, a lot of backlash, people claiming that the whole wedding was a fraud. A lot of people very upset with the situation.
What is your true sense now? Has the tide turned? Do you think all that has passed? Is that the sense you get?
JENNER: Well, I think that definitely it was a surprise and a shock to all of us, you know, who lived through it. It was a very, you know, bad time in our family because, you know, any time something like that happens, there`s a lot of people who, you know, rallied around Kim and, you know, wanted her to be OK.
But I get the sense that, right now, we have so much support from our fans and the ratings on the show are fantastic. And you know, everything is going well with work. And you know, the sears Kardashian collection is doing really well and sales are up like 38 percent since Christmas.
So things like that, if that takes the temperature of what`s going on with the brand, that`s really stable. I think that what`s more important to me is just the well-being of the kids and that Kim`s OK and that she`s, you know, healing from something that has happened in her life that`s really - you know, that was a big deal for her.
So I think that, right now, what we`re concentrating on is just getting everyone feeling good and getting Kim to move on and getting back to work and just having a great 2012.
HAMMER: Well, to that end, let`s talk about some good Kardashian news today. We know that Kourtney is pregnant. Mazeltov, by the way, on that.
JENNER: She is. And we`re very excited waiting to see if she`s going to have a boy or girl.
HAMMER: Oh, oh. You`re jumping ahead of me. Hold on Kris. Hang on a second.
JENNER: I know. I knew where you`re going with that. You wanted some big news.
HAMMER: Well, of course, you`re a trained professional. Here`s the deal.
JENNER: OK.
HAMMER: We did see the report today on "Life and Style" that Kourtney is having a baby girl, so go ahead. I`m going to give you the chance to just get it off your chest right now and break some news for us and tell us if it is a girl.
JENNER: I don`t want to disappoint anybody. But I don`t know if it`s a boy or girl. If it`s a boy, then I`m really happy because Mason will have a buddy. And if it`s a girl, I`ll be really happy because then she`ll have one of each.
As long as it`s healthy - you know, I`ve had six kids and that`s always your main concern and your anxiety for nine months. That`s all I cared about. Really happy when I had the sex I didn`t already have.
When I had Robert, I was thrilled beyond belief. But I think Kourtney`s going to be happy with whatever she has, and she`ll probably find out really soon.
HAMMER: Well, here`s what I`m curious to know about you. Because obviously, and we`ve been talking about the great success and continued success of the Kardashian brand, so much of it supported by the fact that you have the reality show franchise.
But is there a time that you guys talk about it? Because you`ve been - your family has been on TV since 2007. Do you have the conversation that, at this point or at some point, we`re just going to have to shut the cameras off and not involve them in our lives?
JENNER: Well, I think we have talked about that before, and I think what we`ve all decided as a family, because we do make those decisions together, is that when it stops being fun, then that`s when, you know, you need to stop.
I think right now, we all consider it such a blessing to get up every single day and be able to work together. I get to see my kids every day. I get to se my grand kid. I get to see - you know, it`s just a lot of fun at my house right now.
And I don`t want to give that up yet. We`re having too much fun. I mean, obviously, we can still hang out together if there`s no camera. But because it`s our job and our joy -
HAMMER: Really? You think you`ll be able to get along? Just kidding.
JENNER: I think - I think we will.
HAMMER: You are so many things - a mom, a manager, reality star. But I got the news and I wasn`t aware of this previous, that you`re also an expert on sex. And you`re the face of Zestra essential arousal oils and a sex columnist.
So I must get your take tonight on Courteney Cox`s revelation today that she`s been celibate since she split from David Arquette. That`s over a year ago. Kris, stay right where you are. We`ll get to that in just a minute.
Courteney and David have remained friends since their split. And Katy Perry and Russell Brand are taking a page from that same Hollywood play book, it would seem. Did Katy really sign her divorce settlement with a smiley face?
Taylor Armstrong`s coast-to-coast controversy. "The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills" revealing shocking details about domestic abuse in her new book. Critics have not been kind about this. Taylor Armstrong is taking on her critics in a candid SHOWBIZ newsmaker interview. This is SHOWBIZ TONIGHT on HLN news and views.
This is the SHOWBIZ news ticker - more stories from the SHOWBIZ newsroom making news tonight.
TEXT: Halle Berry files court papers for permission to move to France with daughter. Destiny`s Child members talk to SHOWBIZ about Beyonce`s post- baby body.
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KELLY ROWLAND, SINGER: She looks amazing. She looks amazing. I mean, she just had a baby a month ago. Who does that? Who does that? She does. I love it.
MICHELLE WILLIAMS, SINGER: I want the same trainer that she had. And then, Beyonce, she had a six pack before the baby, so maybe muscle memory helped, too, as well. She`s been just an amazing, amazing mother. She and jay, I`m just very proud of them.
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HAMMER: Welcome back to SHOWBIZ TONIGHT. I`m A.J. Hammer in New York. Tonight, the astonishing details of Katy and Russell`s split sealed with a smile.
Yes. Katy Perry and Russell Brand`s divorce is a done deal, not even two months after they called it quits. Shockingly, there was no drama. No nasty headlines. Hold on a second. Is this a celebrity divorce? What`s going on here?
With me now from St. Petersburg, Florida for a SHOWBIZ newsmaker interview, former star of "Real Housewives of New York City, Jill Zarin. Now, Jill will be appearing on HSN. She`s launching her Squeeze Couture Collection.
Great to see you, Jill. I want to get right to this because SHOWBIZ TONIGHT just obtained the court documents from Katy and Russell`s divorce. And they say that Katy and Russell agreed on all financial issues.
And despite having no pre-nup, Russell not going after any of Katy`s income that she earned while they were together, even though he`s reportedly entitled to $20 million.
And look at this - this is how Katy signed the divorce papers, sealed with a Smiley face and a heart. I don`t get it, Jill. I think this is possibly - tell me if you agree - the friendliest celebrity divorce ever.
JILL ZARIN, REALITY TV STAR: It could be. And you know what, it says that there`s hope in this world, doesn`t it? That you don`t have to have a bitter, angry expensive divorce.
Or you could be bitter and say, well, he wanted the divorce for a reason and he wants to move on quickly. But I don`t think so. I really do think it was genuine and he did the right thing. He shouldn`t take half her money. He`s not entitled to it.
HAMMER: Well, hopefully, people will be taking their example and maybe putting smiley faces and hearts on all of their divorce documents.
ZARIN: Exactly.
HAMMER: But I must ask you, being a former real housewife yourself, you know what it`s like to say things on camera that, well, perhaps you shouldn`t have. Supermodel Gisele Bundchen may be learning that lesson as well.
You know, she`s been getting a huge amount of grief all week long. It hasn`t let up because of that rant about her NFL husband, Tom Brady`s team mates after they lost the Super Bowl. Let`s watch what she said.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He didn`t even catch the ball when he was supposed to catch the ball.
GISELE BUNDCHEN, WIFE OF TOM BRADY: My husband cannot (EXPLETIVE DELETED) throw the ball and catch the ball at the same time.
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HAMMER: Jill, I`m dying to know what you think about this. Do you think Gisele was out of line by blaming her husband`s teammates? Or was she just standing by her man and defending him and it was OK to say?
ZARIN: Well, I think both. I think she was standing by her man and defending him, but I don`t think she should have thrown them under the bus.
They didn`t get to the Super Bowl - he didn`t get to the Super Bowl alone. It was a team that got him there. And unfortunately, they lost. It`s being a sore loser. It`s not a good example to set for her own family and children.
And she talks about values. But honestly, we`re all human. And I`m sure if she could take it back, she would. And we got to just let it go and give it a pass, because she was, you know, very upset. Her husband lost and she was upset.
HAMMER: There`s a lot of heat. Look, you have to sort of have that ability to control whatever comes out of your mouth when you`re in the public eye if you don`t want to hear about it later.
I know you love your gossip, by the way, Jill. Can we put up this new picture of Lindsay Lohan? She hasn`t been out much lately. She stepped out for an event last night. The Internet buzzing about her new look.
Platinum blond locks, very conservative looking white dress on there. What do you think of that? Good move for her?
ZARIN: Well, I`m not quite sure it`s conservative. I think it makes her look very old and kind of matronly for her. But she`s definitely getting the attention that she was seeking. And I just hope she`s - I just hope she`s sober and doing well, really.
HAMMER: Yes. Yes. We`re all hoping -
ZARIN: I don`t care what she looks like. She`s a great actress and, you know, I wish her the best. And I hope she comes back to acting and literally cleans up her act, no pun intended.
HAMMER: And listen, as you well know, it`s not easy being in the public eye, always being chased around by cameras. That was part of your life for so long.
Something a bit different going on in your life now. Returning to TV. You`re on HSN. You`re selling your line of shape wear. That`s a real change from "The Real Housewives," no?
ZARIN: Well, yes and no. I`ve been working for 25 years before the show. I can`t believe how old I am. But I`ve been in hosiery for 25 years, so this is not something new to me.
It was new on the show that you saw a different side of me working. And Squeeze Couture is launching tomorrow on HSN. I could not be more thrilled. They`re doing a special New York insider event, and they`ve got all the New York celebrities on HSN down here.
You`ve got Emeril. I just ran into Todd English in the hallway, hugging and kissing. I`ll be on tomorrow at 9:00 a.m., 3:00 p.m. and 8:00 p.m. Eastern Standard Time.
HAMMER: Cool. Have great time, Jill. Great to see you. And again, catch Jill throughout the day tomorrow on HSN. It`s her Squeeze Couture Collection.
Got to move on tonight. Courteney Cox has a new TMI interview all about her sex life after she split from David Arquette. Courteney, David - what`s with all this public sex talk?
Also, Kris Jenner talking sex with me tonight. The Kardashian mom wants you to steam things up in the bedroom Kardashian style. Kris back for a racy SHOWBIZ newsmaker interview.
Designer Karl Lagerfeld patches things up with Adele. I`m so happy he did this. A brand-new apology tonight after calling her fat. This is SHOWBIZ TONIGHT on HLN news and views.
This is the "SHOWBIZ News Ticker" - more stories from the SHOWBIZ TONIGHT newsroom making news tonight.
TEXT: Fox ends "House" after eight seasons. Jim Carrey`s daughter, Jane, eliminated from "American Idol."
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JANE CARREY, FORMER "AMERICAN IDOL" CONTESTANT: I freaked out when I was there, and so I was really, really shaky. And I know I can do way better than that. And so I`m really disappointed with myself.
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HAMMER: Here`s the SHOWBIZ buzz list - the stuff that SHOWBIZ TONIGHT staff is buzzing all about.
We`re all tuning in, tuning in to the brand-new season of "Revenge" on ABC.
Well, she may be gone, not forgotten. We`re reading Etta James` powerful 1995 autobiography, "Rage to Survive."
Gamers rejoice! And we can`t get enough of the pearl pink edition of the Nintendo`s 3Ds, 3D gaming right in your hand.
"Project Runway" winner, Anya Ayoung-Chee returning home to Vegas to design costumes for carnival later this month.
And the premiere of "Smash" on NBC so good we`re betting it`s going to be a smash hit.
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HAMMER: Oh, I love her voice. And we`re on now to Karl Lagerfeld`s big fat apology to Adele. The legendary designer, who designed for several labels including Chanel, called the Grammy nominee "a little too fat" in an interview that went instantly viral.
And now, Karl seems to be gagging on those words. In a new interview with "Metro World News," here`s what he`s saying, "I would like to say to Adele I`m your biggest admirer. What I said was in relation to Lana Del Ray," she`s another U.K.-based singer - "the sentence was since taken out of context."
"I lost over 30 kilos" - that`s about 60 pounds - "over 10 years ago and have kept it off. I know how it feels when the press is mean to you in regards to your appearance."
I`m so glad he did that. Moving on now to another big star apology. Elton John`s husband slammed Madonna on his Facebook page just after her Golden Globe win for best song.
David Furnish called Madonna`s acceptance speech "embarrassing in its narcissism." That was after David and Elton had predicted that Madonna had no chance of winning.
Well, then David told TMZ said he had no plans to tune in for Madonna`s Super Bowl half-time spectacular. Now, it seems David has opened his heart to Madonna as he just explained last night to SHOWBIZ TONIGHT.
SHOWBIZ TONIGHT right there on the red carpet at Empire`s black-tie gala which raised money for HIV-AIDS research. David says he was embarrassed by his public Madonna slam and he says he`s learned a very big lesson about the power of Facebook. Watch what he told us.
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DAVID FURNISH, ELTON JOHN`S HUSBAND: I didn`t watch it, but all my friends on Facebook who saw it said it was great. So she obviously did a good job.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: So you`re still on Facebook?
FURNISH: Yes, although I`m being very careful about what I post these days, because that`s the first time in three years I`ve been on Facebook that something has ever gone to the press.
One of my friends ratted me out and I don`t know who. And I`m disappointed by that and I don`t like putting negativity out into the world.
And I was embarrassed it went so public and it got blown out of proportion, surprised. I may be a little naive, but I`ll certainly be very careful about anything I post ever again.
Well, tickets are going on sale for her tour. And I wish her all the best for the tour because she`s a hard working lady and puts on a great show.
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HAMMER: Think before you post, ladies and gentlemen. Time now for the SHOWBIZ lineup - here`s what`s coming up at the bottom of the hour on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT.
Jennifer Lopez and her 24-year-old boyfriend still going strong. Tonight, SHOWBIZ TONIGHT dares to ask, will the cougar thing really work for her?
Kris Jenner is right here for the sexiest SHOWBIZ newsmaker interview ever. The Kardashian mom wants to help you steam things up in the bedroom.
Taylor Armstrong also right here making big news tonight. "The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills" costar taking heat today over her controversial new book.
Tonight, Taylor is here to take them on. This is SHOWBIZ TONIGHT on HLN news and views.
And now, the "SHOWBIZ News Ticker" - more stories from the SHOWBIZ TONIGHT newsroom making news tonight.
TEXT: "The Real Housewives of Miami" back for season two with new cast members. Arnold Schwarzenegger and Sylvester Stallone get treated at hospital together.
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Big news breaking tonight on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT. Courteney Cox`s shocking new sex confession about life after her split with David Arquette. Tonight, why Courteney`s sex life is so surprising.
Kris Jenner`s sex tips for Courteney, David and, quite frankly, everyone else. Kris is right here for a super-steamy news maker interview.
And another huge reality star is making big news tonight. Taylor Armstrong is in the line of fire for her controversial new book claiming that her late husband abused her. Taylor is right here tonight taking on all her haters in a candid SHOWBIZ newsmaker interview.
ANNOUNCER: TV`s most provocative entertainment news show continues right now.
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Welcome back to SHOWBIZ TONIGHT. It is 30 minutes past the hour. I`m A.J. Hammer in New York. We`ve got big news breaking tonight. We`ve got Kris Jenner`s sex secrets.
Did you know that the mother of Kim, Kourtney and Khloe Kardashian and the wife of Olympic champion, Bruce Jenner, is a sex columnist?
It`s a good thing she`s here tonight because there was big news about Courteney Cox and her sex life. Courteney says, well, she doesn`t have a sex life. In a brand-new interview, Courteney revealed she`s been celibate since her split from David Arquette.
Joining me right now from Hollywood, Kardashian matriarch, Kris Jenner and the brand-new spokesperson for Zestra essential arousal oils. Kris, it is great to see you. It`s literally very exciting to have you here tonight.
JENNER: Thank you. I`m glad you`re excited about it.
HAMMER: Well, you know, and maybe you`re going to help things out with what we`re going to be talking about here. I think, quite frankly, and I believe I`m turning a little bit red, but I think a lot of people are wondering about the arousal oils. I`m going to talk to you about that in just a moment.
But we`ve got some news to tackle right here. Got to talk about Courteney Cox`s situation. I`m sure you have some perspective on this. She`s been split from David Arquette now for over a year, but she hasn`t done the deed, in a matter of speaking, since their split.
Let me read to you what she told Howard Stern on a satellite radio show this week. She said, "I`m really not ready. I`m just not ready. I`m not saying I`m ready to have a make out session. I`m just not ready to - I don`t know. I`m not lying. I`ve not had a man since David."
Now, she says Kris that she has sexual feelings but isn`t ready to act on them right now. I know one of your tips is to be sexually confident. So for Courteney, or for any other woman might just be recovering from a split - and look, I realize everybody is different - but when is it time to act on those feelings?
JENNER: I think that`s all about who, you know, you are dating and when you want to start dating again. I think to each his own in that department. I think anybody who has ever split from someone needs time to recover from that relationship.
And sometimes, people are just not ready to move on as quickly as others. And I think you just have to kind of go with the flow and do what you feel is right.
And when you`re ready and you have chemistry with that next relationship, you`re going to know it. It`s going to hit you over the head.
HAMMER: Yes, literally. And I think, obviously, to your point, some people just jump right back in. I was thinking Courteney maybe could learn a thing or two from Jennifer Lopez. She doesn`t seem to be worried about moving on at all.
She`s got that 24-year-old boyfriend Casper Smart right now. And when I spoke with J. Lo, she just seemed to have it all together to me. She said she and her ex, Marc Anthony are even good friends. Let`s watch this.
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JENNIFER LOPEZ, ACTRESS AND SINGER: The kind of transition through being married to not being married, you know, obviously, is a difficult one, especially when there`s children involved.
But at the end of the day, you know, like you said, we`re trying to handle it with a lot of care and a lot of love. Working together is kind of a natural thing for us. We`ve always worked together even before we were ever together, when we were just friends.
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HAMMER: That is so refreshing to hear to me from somebody in Hollywood. Things are good with Marc. But from what I have seen of her and Casper, who, by the way, happened to be hanging around during this interview, things seem to be good there, too.
And among your sex and romance tips, Kris, you say give him a sign. Boy has J. Lo given a sign that she`s OK with a younger man. But that is something a lot of people see as a fling. In your mind, is there anything wrong with that? I don`t think there is.
JENNER: Look, she`s an amazing woman who is very confident and she`s, you know, I haven`t - I don`t know much about her relationship at all except that, you know, she looks like she has a really great relationship with her ex, which is something that I really enjoyed at the end of, you know, my relationship with Robert.
And when I met Bruce, we all got along really well and we became, you know, best friends. Robert was a regular guest at dinner. And we had all that going on, which is such a blessing.
But as far as, you know, jumping into a new relationship with somebody younger or anybody for that matter, I think it`s - again, it`s just what your chemistry is.
HAMMER: Yes.
JENNER: And it`s when you`re ready to go into another relationship. You`re going to know.
HAMMER: Yes, I think the point being everybody is different, because we know, Kris, we see it play out all the time where so many people are skeptical that a relationship with a younger man could work. Look, Madonna, you know, is out there. She`s dating a 24-year-old right now as well.
JENNER: I think it`s great. I mean, yes.
HAMMER: So a lot of people have been wondering - I think it`s great, too, but a lot of people wonder about it long term. You know, after the whole Demi-Ashton debacle, I actually thought they were going to make it. But does the cougar thing really work in the long run?
JENNER: Well, look, I don`t have a crystal ball. And who knows, you know, what our destiny is, so I think you just - the love, you know - the heart wants what the heart wants.
And I think if you fall in love with somebody, I`m of the opinion that it really doesn`t matter how old, you know, anybody is. As long as, you know, you`re happy.
I think that you`re going to have chemistry and you`re going to fall in love with whoever that person is. And I think that these ladies are both beautiful and confident and amazing and talented. And you know, their choices are their choices and I think that`s their business.
HAMMER: Well, I would be remiss, Kris, to talk about all these women who have been divorced and trying to find their way back to romance and not ask you for the advice that you`re giving to your own daughter, Kim Kardashian, because, obviously, she`s now twice divorced.
We saw in "Kourtney and Kim Take New York" that she`s got some expectations about love at this point in her life. I love that she`s a romantic. Let`s watch this.
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KIM KARDASHIAN: He fell in love with me and I fell in love with him. And now, my feelings have changed. You don`t think I feel bad? I invited all these people to this huge wedding and flew everyone out.
I wasted everyone`s time. I wasted everyone`s money. I wasted everyone`s everything, and I feel bad. You don`t think I feel bad? At 30 years old, I thought I would be married with kids and I`m not. I failed at this. You think that I don`t feel bad?
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HAMMER: Yes, I have to tell you, for as much flak as she`s gotten about the whole thing, Kris, I think she was being brutally honest there. She wanted to be married and settled down at 30.
And there are a lot of women who can relate to that desire. What are you telling Kim now about finding love again?
JENNER: Well, I don`t think Kim is necessarily ready to move on anytime soon. I think she`s just, you know, taking care of her head and her heart and trying to get back on track and just recovering from a very - from, you know, a hard time in her life.
And she`s back to work. She`s doing really, really, really well. And you know, anything else I say about Kim, I always get myself into hot water, so I`m going to leave it at that.
HAMMER: OK.
JENNER: But Kim`s doing OK. It`s always hard anytime anybody goes through a divorce. And by the way, Kim is not the first person to go through a divorce and she won`t be the last, you know.
HAMMER: No.
JENNER: And everyone handles it differently. Again, she`s a very emotional girl.
HAMMER: Yes. I think - and she also has, quite frankly, the added pressure of it all being captured on camera for the world to see.
JENNER: Absolutely.
HAMMER: But let`s go back to your 20-year marriage to Bruce Jenner right now, certainly a long time by Hollywood standards.
JENNER: Almost 21 years.
HAMMER: And now, you have your Zestra essential arousal oils. I hate to ask you this. No, I`m not going to hate to ask.
I`m just going to ask you, you and Bruce - is that helping you out and keeping things, you know, hot in the bedroom, Kris? Just put it out there for me. I may as well have you tell me.
JENNER: You know what? Relationships are - you know, there`s an ebb and a flow. It`s like a roller coaster - marriage. When you`ve been married - I`ve been married almost 21 years in April.
And you need to find things to do to spice up your love life. And that`s what this is all about. A friend told me about Zestra. I loved it and thought it was an amazing product.
And I decided to be the spokesperson because I think it`s important to show women that, at any age, no matter how long you`ve been with somebody, everyone needs to, you know, have a little fun in the bedroom and spice it up a little bit.
You guys have had all the luck, all the help, you know, in the bedroom area with all these different products that a guy can take. And we`ve been so left out that now it`s our turn.
HAMMER: All right.
JENNER: So I`m here to tell women that you can have a really good time, and it can be amazing no matter what the circumstance is.
HAMMER: Sounds like it will be a happy Valentine`s Day in the Jenner household. Kris Jenner, thank you so much for being here and for introducing us to the Zestra essential arousal oils, which are available at "Zestra.com." Great to see you, Kris.
JENNER: You bet. Thank you.
HAMMER: And there are more amazing reality star revelations we must get to tonight on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT. This is a real stunner to me.
"Real Housewives of Beverly Hills" co-star, Taylor Armstrong is right here, defending her tell-all book all about her late husband. It`s stirring up some major controversies.
Got to talk to her about this. Why are there so many critics of her abuse revelations? Also, Taylor`s getting real about life after reality TV. SHOWBIZ TONIGHT dares to ask, is it time for Taylor to just leave all the cameras behind? This is SHOWBIZ TONIGHT on HLN news and views.
This is the "SHOWBIZ News Ticker" - more stories from the SHOWBIZ TONIGHT newsroom making news tonight.
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CHRIS PINE, ACTOR: It`s a little more than the Captain Kirk mode. It`s fun. It`s hard work. But it`s a good group, and the cast, you know, and the first one gelled completely.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Because we don`t say that he broke your jaw or that he beat you up, and he hit you. We don`t say that, but now we said it.
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HAMMER: That bombshell confrontation on "The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills" would forever change reality TV.
Tonight, SHOWBIZ TONIGHT goes one on one with Taylor Armstrong about her shocking new revelations of abuse before her late husband`s tragic death. Just a stunning turn in reality TV with suicide of Russell Armstrong.
Welcome back to SHOWBIZ TONIGHT. I`m A.J. Hammer in New York. Tonight, Taylor-made reality.
The bombshells keep coming from "The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills" star, Taylor Armstrong. The reality TV star has just revealed shocking new details about what really happened in her marriage when the cameras were off.
And with the new revelations comes anger, criticism, even death threats. But SHOWBIZ TONIGHT dares to ask are her critics just out of line?
Taylor Armstrong, breakout star in the hit reality series, "The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills" and author of "Hiding from Reality: My Story of Love, Loss and Finding Courage Within," joins me from Hollywood for a SHOWBIZ newsmaker interview.
I do really appreciate you being here, Taylor. What has been just such an unimaginable year for you. How are you doing?
TAYLOR ARMSTRONG, REALITY TV STAR AND AUTHOR: day in and day out, but I`m in a lot of therapy and just trying to do the best I can to move forward with this mess I`ve been left with.
HAMMER: And I imagine just talking about it and having written the book has been quite the cathartic experience for you.
We know this may arguably go down as one of the most talked-about reality series in TV history. And of course, it all started when "Housewives" producers announced their plans to air the series just two weeks after your husband`s tragic suicide.
Did you ever tell the show`s producers, Taylor, you just didn`t want to story line or even any footage of Russell making air?
ARMSTRONG: At that point, I was in complete shock. I don`t remember anything for at least the first five weeks after my husband`s suicide.
So I didn`t - the show meant so little to me at that point. It was just an unbelievable amount of stress and shock.
HAMMER: And you`ve watched it play out just like we all have and, you know, I`m sure it comes as a surprise to you. There were moments when so many people, myself included, found it just so uncomfortable to watch.
There was one incident in particular where it seemed you were unraveling right before our eyes on TV. I do want to revisit how that played out. Let`s watch that together.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You have no idea what she has done to me! You have no idea! No, you don`t! No, you don`t!
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HAMMER: I mean, I watch that and the energy just is so palpable, coming right through the television. As you`ve been watching the way your show handled all the drama, are you happy with the way it played out? How do you feel about how they handled it and what they put on the show?
ARMSTRONG: It was terribly difficult for me to watch so many parts of it. I mean, obviously to see Russell, that`s hard if for me. I miss him terribly despite the difficulties that we had in our marriage.
I still loved him very much. But also just to see how I was completely unraveling. You see how thin I am. I`m obviously trying to keep my life off camera, behind the scenes.
And I know by this point in this Malibu scene that you`ve just showed, I know that the abuse is coming out. I know too much has been said at this point.
And once it`s out, my fear of how my husband is going to respond to this, what it`s going to do to his business, to our personal lives, I was terrified at that point. And I was - that`s why I called the book "Hiding from Reality." I was living two lives.
You see, even in season one of the show, when I watch it back, I was like, who is that girl? I mean, I just look like a Stepford wife because I was constantly trying to make it appear as though we had this positive relationship. And behind the scenes, there were some bad things happening.
HAMMER: Yes. You know, you really - when I think about it, you get some insight that so few people go through that get to have.
So you expose such painful parts of your life on TV. And now, you`ve written a book. And I have to tell you, I hate seeing how much heat you`ve been taking for it, even from some of your reality cast mates. Let`s watch this together.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: When does the book come out anyway? How long has it been?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Stop. Sorry, next question.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Why do you think it`s inappropriate that she wrote a book?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It`s been like a hot minute.
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HAMMER: Yes. I`m not sure I understand that. What do you say to Brandi and to any other critics who are out there saying you shouldn`t be writing this book?
ARMSTRONG: Everyone is entitled to their opinion, obviously. What I recognized in this season of our show - first of all, the eye injury was going to come out.
It was on the show. I had a black eye on the show. I had to take time off from work to have the titanium implant put in my eye. There wasn`t going to be any hiding this. You know, the tabloids were going to get a hold of it.
So I wanted to tell the story as it really was. But more importantly, when I saw how I couldn`t explain the cycle of abuse to my friends, I really recognized that this is very hard for people to comprehend, how you can love someone and stay in a relationship where they have good days and bad and how you can vacillate back and forth.
And when I recognized that had I pulled my friends into my own cycle of abuse, I wanted people to get a better grasp on it. So this story starts as me as a little girl and all the self esteem issues that led me to this point.
I try to make it very clear. Russell wasn`t a bad guy. He just had a bad temper and I shouldn`t have been able to tolerate that from the very beginning.
And I just started a foundation to reach out and do self esteem work with young girls. The minute someone calls you a name or they start doing things that are degrading to you, you have to walk away.
HAMMER: Yes. And I think, obviously, having written this book, it would be so helpful. Such a difficult time for you, and a lot of speculation about whether you`ll even be back for another season of "Housewives."
My question is if you`re ready to now step away from the cameras once and for all, maybe take some time for yourself. Hold that thought. I`m going to get your answer in just a moment, Taylor.
Right now, I`ve got to move onto the Grammys. We`re now just days away from the big show. The race for best artist heating up. Such a showdown. Nicki Minaj, Bon Iver, J. Cole, Skrillex, The Band Perry.
Get this - SHOWBIZ TONIGHT just spoke with The Band Perry. You`ve got to watch what they told SHOWBIZ TONIGHT`s Kareen Wynter about being up for such a big award.
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KAREEN WYNTER, SHOWBIZ TONIGHT CORRESPONDENT: The Band Perry. You guys said never in your wildest dreams did you imagine you would be attending the Grammys. But you`re not just attending. You`re performing up for bet new artist. How blown away are you by that honor?
KIMBERLY PERRY, MEMBER, THE BAND PERRY: We`re so excited. The Grammys has been just such a huge event in our household.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: They have been. And this will be the first time we`re attending as artists or fans, so we`re looking forward to that.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And honestly, like people say what are you the most excited about at the Grammy Awards show? And the three of us are honestly most excited about the performances. It`s going to be a great, great night.
WYNTER: We`re excited to see you. We know it`s super-top secret, your special tribute to country idol, Glen Campbell. But you`ve got to give us a taste of what we could expect.
K. PERRY: Our secret right here?
WYNTER: Right now. Right now, guys.
K. PERRY: We go - one, two, three. You`ve got to tune in on Sunday.
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HAMMER: That`s right. Tune in for complete coverage of the Grammys. SHOWBIZ at the Grammys tomorrow night, 11:00 p.m. Eastern and Pacific here on HLN. SHOWBIZ at the Grammys airs again, Saturday, 2:30 p.m. on CNN, Sunday, 2:30 p.m. on HLN.
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HAMMER: Tonight, Taylor-made reality. "The Real Housewives" star, Taylor Armstrong, on the road to recovery. The reality TV star, the central focus of one of the most explosive plotlines in the history of reality TV, now taking heat again, this time over her controversial new book.
Tonight, I`ve got to find out if Taylor is going to be returning for yet another season of "The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills".
Back from me from Hollywood, Taylor Armstrong. Taylor, as we were talking about, people have been hurling a lot of criticism at you.
I was shocked and, quite frankly, appalled to see there have been death threats. What have you been able to do to make sure you and your daughter are safe? Which obviously is the most important thing.
ARMSTRONG: I had a death threat to my daughter, who is five years old, on Twitter, and also a kidnapping threat to me. It was not related to the book. It was prior to the book even being released.
And it really stands to another form, in my opinion, of abuse. You know, we`re all interacting on Twitter and social media because we want to have fun and try to answer questions for people that enjoy our show.
But at the same time, I`m not going to be abused. When I close the chapter on this book, I close the chapter on all the abuse in my life, including with social media.
So what I can tell you is within 48 hours, we had police at this person`s door, and it`s a federal offense. So right now, I`m making decisions about how to handle that, but I want that to be an example to other people in social media that feel like they can hide behind their computers.
HAMMER: So when you go through that kind of experience, I imagine you do sort of step back and, you know, take stock of everything and consider whether or not it`s all worth it.
And there`s been so much speculation about whether you would even be back for another season of "Housewives." Some of your cast mates have been right here telling me that they think you should take a break from TV and just focus strictly on your recovery.
Do you agree with that? Is that something you could walk away from?
ARMSTRONG: You know, I`ll do whatever is best for Kennedy and me. But at the same time, this is a story about recovery now. This is a story about me going out and saying to other women out there that could potentially be in a dangerous situation, all the things I feared, I don`t think I can be alone.
I am alone now and I`m happy about being alone for the first time in 40 years. And I`m finding strength I didn`t know I had. And I`m getting the electric bill paid every month miraculously through all the financial mess I`ve been left with.
So I do think there is a victory here for women that are too afraid to leave. And I need to figure out how best to tell that story as an example to the fact that you can get through this.
HAMMER: I`ve got to ask you, yes or no, though, if producers do ask you back, will you return to the show?
ARMSTRONG: I`m going to let Bravo decide if we have a season three first. I don`t know.
HAMMER: Fair enough. Taylor Armstrong, thank you so much. I really appreciate you being with us tonight.
ARMSTRONG: Thanks so much.
HAMMER: Taylor`s new book is called "Hiding from Reality: My Story of Love, Loss and Finding the Courage Within". It is now available online and in bookstores everywhere.
That is it for SHOWBIZ tonight. Thank you so much for watching. Remember, you can catch SHOWBIZ TONIGHT exclusively weeknights. We`re on at 11:00 p.m. Eastern and Pacific right here on HLN.
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