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Dina Lohan Drunk in Interview?; Kristen Stewart Cheating Photos Faked?; Kelly Rutherford`s Heartbreaking Custody Battle; Evelyn Lozado Opens Up about Divorce
Aired September 14, 2012 - 23:00 ET
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A.J. HAMMER, HOST: Tonight the "SHOWBIZ Countdown," top five jaw- droppers. Dina Lohan`s bizarre face to face with Dr. Phil. The explosive new evidence of a possible Kristen Stewart cheating conspiracy. Which jaw- dropper is No. 1 on the "SHOWBIZ Countdown" tonight?
Hello. I`m A.J. Hammer. Thanks for watching.
Tonight in our countdown, we`ve got the top five stories breaking today that made our jaws drop, including the remarkable conspiracy theory just revealed that suggests Kristen Stewart and Robert Pattinson`s dramatic breakup over her alleged cheating was one big, fat, juicy, mind-boggling, carefully-orchestrated publicity stunt. Could you believe that? Well, wait until you hear why.
But which jaw-dropper will be No. 1 tonight? You`re going to want to find out.
And let`s start out by kicking off things with our No. 5 jaw-dropper. Lindsay Lohan`s mom accused today of being smashed, as in drunk, during an interview with Dr. Phil that`s set to air on Monday. The reason? Well, I think it speaks for itself. Take a look at this promo for the show that was everywhere today.
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ANNOUNCER: Monday on an all-new "Dr. Phil," a rare one-on-one interview...
DR. PHIL MCGRAW, TALK SHOW HOST: Let`s talk about...
DINA LOHAN, LINDSAY LOHAN`S MOM: Are we to camera now, we`re rolling? I`m sorry.
ANNOUNCER: ... with a woman that has been called...
MCGRAW: Worst mother in America, worst parent ever.
D. LOHAN: That`s so me.
ANNOUNCER: The Lohans...
MCGRAW: Michael says that you`ve been taking money in commissions from Lindsay by lying to her.
D. LOHAN: No.
ANNOUNCER: ... like you`ve never seen them before.
D. LOHAN: You`re, like, in your little tie, your little shoes.
MCGRAW: I`m in my little tie and my little shoes? What the hell does that mean?
MICHAEL LOHAN, LINDSAY LOHAN`S FATHER: Was she drinking before she did your interview?
ANNOUNCER: Wherever the Lohans go...
MCGRAW: You come on here, and you`ve been phony, flitting around.
D. LOHAN: Stop. I`m not flitting around. I`m being scrutinized by you people.
MCGRAW: You people?
ANNOUNCER: ... controversy follows.
MCGRAW: I have seen Lindsay dragged into court: `05, car crash; `06, struggles with drugs.
D. LOHAN: If she was living in New York, five of them would be obsolete.
MCGRAW: You`re missing the point.
D. LOHAN: Can I go home now?
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HAMMER: OK. Look, I have no way of knowing if Dina was drunk during that interview as some were suggesting today, including her ex-husband, Michael. But I can tell you this: Dina definitely has some explaining to do. That was some weird and wacky stuff.
Joining me tonight, SHOWBIZ TONIGHT`S countdown has the latest saga on the ongoing soap opera that is the Lohan family, and we have a soap opera star himself, Sean Kanan. Good to see you, Sean.
SEAN KANAN, SOAP OPERA STAR: A.J.
HAMMER: He stars in "The Bold and the Beautiful." Great having you here. And this is Sean`s book, by the way. It is "The Modern Gentlemen: Cooking and Entertaining with Sean Kanan."
With us tonight from Hollywood, the great Wendy Walsh. She`s a doctor of psychology and an expert with the must-see site, DatingAdvice.com.
So granted, we`re going to know more when the full interview airs on Monday. But I got to say, I mean, come on. You look at that promo. Dina looks incredibly bizarre, Sean. I mean, what do you think? Am I off the page here? I don`t think so. Everybody seems to be talking about it
KANAN: A.J., you`re wearing your little jacket and your little shirt. So -- this is really sad. It`s a train wreck. She obviously looked like she was under the influence. But you know, it`s definitely a person who`s in crisis. I mean, I hope she finds some help.
And unfortunately, you know, it doesn`t take a brain surgeon to see why Lindsay Lohan has probably had a lot of the problems that she`s unfortunately had. Because, you know, the Apple doesn`t seem to fall far from the tree.
HAMMER: Yes. And, you know, it`s wild. I`ve been watching that, and I`m coming to all of my own conclusions, as I`m sure you were as you were watching it. I`ll keep those to myself for the moment.
Dina, however, adamant she wasn`t drunk, that didn`t play a part of her behavior in this Dr. Phil interview. And she tells TMZ that the promo was cut from an hour-long interview and edited to make her comments look out of context. I have a hard time understanding that, because we saw her behavior. But Wendy, does Dina have a point? Are people jumping to conclusions here?
WENDY WALSH, DATINGADVICE.COM: Well, you know, we don`t -- no one knows whether she was drinking or not. Yes, of course, they edit long interviews into promos. That`s what`s done in television everywhere. But not everybody looks a mess like that in every promo, right?
So the question is, what was she thinking to mess with Dr. Phil? He`s a supreme mind. You don`t mess with him. I mean, and she was trying to belittle him and egg him on. The "little tie" comment, what was she thinking?
HAMMER: You know, Dr. Phil was like, "Wow, I`ve hit gold here." That`s all I was thinking as I`m watching that. And I think we`re eventually going to know the truth one way or another.
And the search for the truth takes us to No. 4 in our "SHOWBIZ Countdown" of the top four -- top five jaw-droppers. This is No. 4. And I haven`t been drinking, just to be clear about that.
The Kristen Stewart/Robert Pattinson conspiracy theories. There was an explosion of online chatter today that Kristen Stewart and the cheating scandal with her, when she was photographed cheating on Pattinson with married director Rupert Sanders, the theory out there is that it may have been a whole big publicity stunt to boost everyone`s careers. And it is all being fueled by a jaw-dropping you-tube video today that actually analyzes the cheating photos, and it concludes that they were doctored.
And guys, I must tell you, I watched that video very carefully today. I felt like, I don`t know, I was watching a Zapruder film. The only thing that was missing was the grassy knoll there, Sean.
K-Patz conspiracy theories. Is this crazy, or could they be on to something?
KANAN: I`ll tell you, maybe I`m a romantic. But I hate to think that somebody who is in a relationship and actually in love would be willing to say that there was an infidelity and involving a married guy and his wife, just for the sake of, you know, promoting a film or something.
And the other thing is, does she need to be any more famous? She`s arguably one of the most famous actresses on the planet. I mean, to do something like this sounds like -- it sounds a little far-fetched, and it does sound more like a theory than a reality to me.
HAMMER: Well, two things they`re showing. One, you`re romantic. So you probably didn`t feel great about the idea that she could have been cheating on Pattinson.
But the other side of it is, yes, it`s not just her career that this has helped out. The conspiracy theorists are pointing out everybody`s careers have benefitted from the cheating scandal? Even take Liberty Ross. Liberty is the wife of director Kris -- the director that Kris is accused of cheating with. She saw her modeling career get a boost this week alone when she got to walk the runway during a show at New York City`s Fashion Week.
KANAN: Well, there`s also the possibility that, in a sort of sick way, they took lemons and made lemonade. I mean, you know, it`s a terrible thing that happened.
WALSH: Exactly.
KANAN: And his wife probably said, "You know what? Screw it. Look, if everybody knows already, I`m going to do what I can to try and, you know, salvage the best possible outcome for myself.
HAMMER: Yes -- no, great point there.
All right. Well, from the gossip about Kristen Stewart to the star of "Gossip Girl." This leads us to No. 3 on our "SHOWBIZ Countdown" of jaw- droppers tonight, the top five.
Kelly Rutherford`s heartbreaking child custody case. Kelly plays Blake Lively`s mom on "Gossip Girl." And she just broke down on live television over her real-life pain as a mom.
A judge has now ruled -- and I just find this wild -- her two small children can live in France with her ex-husband who`s German and had his U.S. visa revoked. So she has to fly to France to see her kids.
She got very emotional in this new interview on "The View," describing her last visit with the kids. Let`s watch that together.
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KELLY RUTHERFORD, ACTRESS: My little girl said, you know, "I want to come home, Mama. I want to come back to New York." And my son, who`s kind of been brainwashed that where he is is so much better. He always says, "Mama, I love you so much. You`re in my heart. I love you, mama."
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: How old is he?
RUTHERFORD: Five. He`ll be 6 this month or October 17. Yes.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
HAMMER: Wow. I mean, you can totally feel her pain.
Sean, I want to go back to you on this, because not only have you gone through your own custody battle, and I see you feeling her pain there. You`ve worked with Kelly. What goes through your mind when you see what she`s going through?
KANAN: Well, first of all, I`ve got to tell you, sometimes the universe has an incredible sense of humor. I don`t know if that`s the right expression. But I did. I just concluded a custody battle that I won a few days ago. So this is a subject that`s very close to the surface for me.
You know, it`s such an emotional subject when you`re involved in it. My heart goes out to her. You know, obviously, you can see that she`s a person that`s in a lot of pain. You know, we all love our children very much. I wish her the best.
And I just think that that`s an incredibly odd decision for a judge to remand children to a foreign country and, you know, force one of the parents to have to fly to that foreign country for the visitation.
HAMMER: Yes, and particularly -- particularly when we understand that, you know, she hasn`t done anything wrong and Wendy, there is a lot of outrage online. Quickly, that`s quite understandable. And, you know, it`s nuts to me.
WALSH: Well, we don`t know all the facts, A.J. That`s the important thing.
KANAN: Good point.
WALSH: the good news here is that, you know, judges don`t look at gender any more. They look at what is the most stable household. And remember, they`re not with her ex-husband. These children are with their father. So they made the decision for a reason that we don`t know.
KANAN: Absolutely. That`s an excellent point.
HAMMER: Well, we hope it ends smoothly or works itself out in some smooth way. It is a terrible situation.
All right. Sean, Wendy, thank you very much.
KANAN: Thank you, A.J.
HAMMER: You think those stories are jaw-droppers, by the way? Wait until you see what we have at No. 2 and 1 on our "SHOWBIZ Countdown" tonight.
And we`re revealing another incredible countdown tonight. The breaking stories that had us asking, Is There Anything Wrong with That? Justin Bieber tells the world he doesn`t want to be seen as a teen heartthrob. Anything wrong with that? Heidi Klum reveals the details about her new bodyguard boyfriend during her very public divorce with Seal. Anything wrong with that? Which story will be No. 1 on our "SHOWBIZ Countdown," Is There Anything Wrong with That?
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HAMMER: The Korean pop star who brought the world the viral video hit "Gagnam Style" got down with the hosts of "The Today Show" this morning. Watch them break it down with rapper look that will look even better on you. Break it down with rapper Psy.
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PSY: Let me see you bounce, "Gangnam Style."
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HAMMER: David Gregory, come on, man. And the first time in "Today" concert history, by the way, an artist gave an encore performance.
Next, the countdown rolls on, SHOWBIZ TONIGHT counting down the top five jaw-droppers. Will Chad Johnson`s dramatic divorce about-face take the top spot?
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IYANLA VANZANT, LIFE COACH: And whatever you say to me, I promise you I`m not going to use it against you. I`m not going to use it against you. What scares me the most is?
EVELYN LOZADA, EX-WIFE OF CHAD JOHNSON: Not being loved.
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HAMMER: SHOWBIZ TONIGHT continues our countdown of today`s top five jaw-droppers. At No. 2, Iyanla Vanzant`s new interview with reality TV star Evelyn Lozado, who opened up for the very first time about her sudden split from newlywed husband, football star Chad Johnson.
Well, Chad is now facing an assault charge after an argument with Evelyn got physical.
The "Basketball Wives" star just sat down with life coach Iyanla Vanzant in that all-new interview without Chad, who himself has just filed divorce papers after weeks of fighting to win Lozado back.
Evelyn really opened up to Iyanla about her own violent past and the controversy over whether her history of clashes may have actually played somehow into her own domestic violence dispute.
I am delighted to have with me here in New York, best-selling author and self-empowerment coach, Iyanla Vanzant. Iyanla`s all-new TV series, "Iyanla, Fix My Life," all set to kick off tomorrow night with a special two-night premiere on the O network.
Great to have you here.
VANZANT: Thank you. How are you?
HAMMER: I`m terrific. And I love the mantra on your show. It is simple. It`s "fix my life." And I think that just says it plainly.
You reached out to Evelyn to help her fix her life even before the domestic dispute claims came up. And this was at a time when she was boasting about being a changed woman. She was a newlywed, launching a new reality show. It was a time when everything seemed to be right with her. Why did you feel then that she needed the help of a life coach?
VANZANT: Well, actually, she reached out to us. We didn`t reach out to her. And it was in response to a tweet that Star Jones put out in the universe to boycott "Basketball Wives" because of the way women of color were being represented by all of the cast members.
Well, Evelyn saw that. Evelyn also heard her step-children, Chad`s daughters, imitating her and her behavior, and she said, "Wait a minute. This is not good." So what a difference a day makes.
HAMMER: Yes. Certainly. And it`s interesting, because she used to be very defensive of her behavior on that show. And when Evelyn claimed that Chad had abused her, that incident sparked this firestorm on social media, because people were saying, hey, she always appears to be the instigator of violent clashes on her reality show. Why is this any different?
Let`s watch what she told you about the fallout.
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VANZANT: Did you ever raise your hand to him?
LOZADO: Never raised a finger.
VANZANT: Did you ever raise your hand to him?
LOZADO: Never. No.
VANZANT: Is that the truth?
LOZADO: That is the truth. And I think that`s what hurts me the most.
VANZANT: What?
LOZADO: That people associate me or "Basketball Wives" with this situation and make it, that that justifies his actions.
VANZANT: Well, this is what you have to get. I don`t care about people. I care about you. What you have to get is that behavior, my beloved, opened the door as an invitation for this kind of energy to be in your life.
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HAMMER: Now, to be clear, Iyanla, you know, you and I, I`m sure, both agree there`s never any excuse or justification ever for a man hitting a woman.
But it almost sounds there as if you`re telling Evelyn to accept some of the responsibility for what happened with Chad that night because of her violent history. Do I have that right?
VANZANT: Well, not just accept responsibility for what happened that night. But like many, many women in relationships that are not satisfying, accept responsibility for how you got into this relationship.
And that`s what "Iyanla, Fix My Life" is about. We don`t have victims; we don`t have martyrs. We`re saying to people, look, anything in your life is there by energetic invitation. So if it`s there and if you don`t want it there, then you have to take responsibility for getting rid of it, whether it`s Evelyn Lozado or whether it`s the wife in Nebraska who wants to come back after leaving her family, or the six women in Chicago who are trying to build a business together. Take responsibility to create what it is you say you want in your life.
HAMMER: What advice would you give to Chad at this point? Because at first he was really fighting the split. And now he seems to be on board.
VANZANT: Well, not advice. Not advice at all. I do not give advice. Look, I`ve been married three times. Twice to the same man. Advice is not high on my list.
HAMMER: All right.
VANZANT: What I would say -- what I would say to anybody is, do you want to be better? Are you willing to take responsibility for your life?
HAMMER: Yes.
VANZANT: And do you want support, help, assistance?
HAMMER: Great. Great message there. And we`ll leave it right there. Iyanla Vanzant, so great to have you here.
VANZANT: Thank you.
HAMMER: Make sure you tune in for the season premiere of Iyanla`s all-new series, "Iyanla, Fix My Life," tomorrow night on own.
We`re just minutes away now from revealing who will take the No. 1 spot on our "SHOWBIZ Countdown," the top five jaw-droppers. It is the unbelievable moment you have got to see.
And then there`s another countdown on the way tonight, "Is There Anything Wrong with That?" Chris Brown gets a tattoo that looks like a beaten up Rihanna. Anything wrong with that?
Sharon Osbourne becomes the newest celebrity warrior in the battle with the bulge. Are people sick and tired of celebrities endorsing weight- loss plans for big bucks? "Anything Wrong with That" Which bombshell story will take No. 1?
This is SHOWBIZ TONIGHT on HLN.
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HAMMER: SHOWBIZ TONIGHT continues our countdown of the top five jaw- droppers tonight. And here`s where we are so far.
At No. 5, Dina Lohan`s positively bizarre appearance on "Dr. Phil.: She was rambling, fidgeting, even confrontational with the good doctor.
No. 4, the brand-new advance that Kristen Stewart, the cheating scandal with her, it may have been a publicity stunt. Complete with fake photos.
And No. 3, "Gossip Girl" star Kelly Rutherford`s emotional breakdown on "The View" while talking about her fierce dual continent custody battle.
Coming in at No. 2, Chad Johnson`s dramatic about face as he files for divorce against Evelyn Lozado, just days after getting a tattoo of her on his leg. Chad is now saying the marriage is broken.
That brings us to No. 1 on our "SHOWBIZ Jaw-droppers" countdown.
A star is born. Take a look at 13-year-old Carly Rose Sonenclar, who brought down the house on "The X Factor" last night. She also brought down all of the judges, even Simon Cowell. They were on their feet for a standing ovation.
Her amazing performance of Nina Simone`s soulful classic "Feeling Good" showcased the teenager with an old soul, for sure. Here`s Carly Rose Sonenclar`s truly jaw-dropping performance.
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(MUSIC: "FEELING GOOD")
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HAMMER: That was pretty remarkable. Even Simon giving it up for Carly Rose there. Imagine how talented she`s going to be when she`s an actual grownup.
All right. I got to know. What is Britney thinking? Well, Britney Spears just immortalized her hand prints and signature at Grauman`s Chinese Theater in Hollywood. And we asked you to fill in the thought bubbles telling us what you think was actually going on through Britney`s mind at this exact moment.
Somebody wrote this hilarious response. I love this. "Uh-oh, I wasn`t supposed to start yet?"
This caption also really funny: "I hope I don`t mess this up. It`s here for life."
Keep looking for SHOWBIZ Say What? on our Web site at HLNTV.com/SHOWBIZTONIGHT with your answers.
What`s coming up at the bottom of the hour on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT? Yet another remarkable "SHOWBIZ Countdown," "Anything Wrong with That?" Heidi Klum spilling serious secrets about her divorce on "Katie." Did she say too much?
Sharon Osbourne, the latest celebrity ambassador for a weight-loss plan. Truly inspirational to watch celebrities with mega endorsement deals shedding the pounds? It`s minutes away on our "SHOWBIZ Countdown," "Anything Wrong with That?"
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HAMMER: Right now on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT, Heidi Klum`s big Seal confessions. Did she hook up with the bodyguard while she was still married to Seal? Seal slammed her for, as he put it, "fornicating with the help." But is there anything wrong with Heidi dishing on her divorce?
Justin Bieber, not a teen idol? Tonight the Biebs doesn`t want to be a teen heartthrob anymore, so "Is There Anything Wrong with That?"
Heidi and Justin`s big confessions are in our top five "SHOWBIZ Countdown" tonight. But which of these stories will outdo the other? It`s the "SHOWBIZ Countdown," "Anything Wrong with That?"
SHOWBIZ TONIGHT continues right now.
Welcome back to SHOWBIZ TONIGHT, and thanks for watching. I`m AJ Hammer, and tonight on the SHOWBIZ countdown, the top five bombshell breaking stories today that have us asking, anything wrong with that?
We kick things off at number five tonight with Heidi Klum`s divorce confessions. For the very first time since Heidi Klum and Seal`s stunning announcement that they were calling it quits, well, Heidi Klum is opening up and revealing her side of the nasty divorce.
This afternoon, for the very first time we heard Heidi respond to Seal`s claim that she was, quote, "fornicating with the help," sleeping with their bodyguard, a claim made by Seal. The superstar mom, supermodel and reality TV host, telling all to Katie Couric. Let`s watch that.
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HEIDI KLUM, MODEL/REALITY TV HOST: I don`t know. I mean I -- obviously, I don`t know, I don`t love that. And it`s -- and obviously it`s not true. When, you know, I`ve never looked at another man while I was with him. And it`s hard when you -- when you think that he thinks that, or I don`t know, you know, he was hurt. He`s moved on. You know, when we separated, he`s moved on and so have I.
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HAMMER: Sounds like a straight denial to me. Let`s me bring in Trisha Goddard. She is in New York. And Trisha is the host of the all-new syndicated daytime talk show "Trisha Goddard," set to premier on Monday, September 17th.
Joining me from Hollywood tonight, Michael Yo, who`s host of "Yo Show" on Yahoo.
Good to have you both here. And you both heard Heidi in full defense mode. This seems to be shaping out to what may quite possibly wind up being what was a very nasty divorce.
Trisha, I want to go to you first because you`re a conflict resolution expert. Heidi has not said word one publicly since their breakup was announced in January until today. In your mind, anything wrong with Heidi speaking out now? It`s been nine months.
TRISHA GODDARD, HOST, "TRISHA GODDARD": Well, I think you`ve got to wind the clock back, AJ. This is a couple that, if you remember, renewed their vows very publicly every year. This has all been done out in the public, so it`s only to be expected there`s going to be this game of ping-pong, he said/she said.
Is there anything wrong with that? Well, as long as they make sure that their children know what`s really going on, but you`re right, it could get very ugly because the legal business is going to be listening to every word he says and she says.
HAMMER: Absolutely. And to your point, when Heidi and Seal first announced their separation, Seal did tell an Australian radio station, hey, you know, they kept heir marriage in the spotlight when they were together so he felt it only fair that their divorce should be an open book as well. Let`s watch what he said there.
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SEAL, SINGER: When you publicize your marriage as much as our marriage was publicized, when you renew wedding vows, when you do all of those things, what you are saying to people is you are giving them a picture of an ideal relationship, a relationship that people aspire towards, and so when it goes south, you can`t all of a sudden take -- you know, take the philosophy that we are philistine monks, and decide to go for a vow of silence. It doesn`t really work like that.
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HAMMER: OK. Now, Michael, I kind of get what he`s saying there. But at the same time it seems like a bit of a rationalization to putting the dirty laundry out there. Anything wrong with that?
MICHAEL YO, HOST, "THE YO SHOW" ON YAHOO: I think there is, and I think this is a private issue, especially when you got kids involved. Yes, they did their marriage and they made it very public, but I don`t think they have to take this next level, you know, and put it all over the papers and talk about it in the press. And I`ve interviewed both people, and they`re very, very nice people, but you know, Heidi Klum to me didn`t deny that -- if she is going out with the bodyguard. To me she didn`t deny it. She just said she hasn`t been talking to anybody when she was with Seal.
HAMMER: Well --
YO: Doesn`t mean she`s not dating the guy now. So.
HAMMER: Well, no, no. But to her point, she did make it very clear she never even looked at another man when they were together.
YO: Absolutely. Absolutely.
HAMMER: So unless she was with the bodyguard and wearing a blindfold, I don`t actually think that was taking place.
(LAUGHTER)
But we`ll move now from Heidi Klum`s confessions.
YO: Yes.
HAMMER: To Sharon Osbourne`s new revelations. It`s at number four in our SHOWBIZ countdown of stories making us ask, anything wrong with that?
Sharon`s weight war. Now Sharon is one of the hosts of "The Talk," of course, and she just became the latest celeb to be a spokesperson for a popular diet program. Let`s watch what she she said about it on "The Talk."
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SHARON OSBOURNE, TV HOST: I`ve tried everything. And I went in and the Atkins diet. And in two weeks I lost 11 pounds. And it is -- mind, body and spirit that I want to change and the Atkins diet is a perfect combination for me of vegetables and protein. And I`ve never felt so good. And I want to be an inspiration for women between 50 and 60 to say, you know what, I want to do that. I can do that. And why not?
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HAMMER: And why not indeed? So OK, in addition to Jessica Simpson, Sharon joins the likes of Jennifer Hudson, Kirstie Alley, Snooki, Valerie Bertinelli and Khloe Kardashian, and that`s just naming a few stars who back these diet programs. We have seen some pretty amazing transformations throughout time and these these endorsements, but let`s face it, they usually get paid a whole lot of money to do it, Trisha.
So anything wrong with that? Are their stories really inspirational when they`re getting paid so much to lose that weight?
GODDARD: It`s an act. It`s an act. It pays the bill so everyone has got to pay the bills, and as long as people realize that`s what it is, there`s no harm. And there are lots of laws in place to make sure people do realize that. But I want a celebrity to come out and talk about just eating less and exercising more. I`ll do that.
HAMMER: Yes. And nobody is going to pay you to say that, but --
GODDARD: No one is going to pay me, but --
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HAMMER: And I have to say, just seeing Sharon there, you know, I love her dearly and I`m glad --
GODDARD: So do I.
HAMMER: Whatever the motivation is, that she`s taking health steps in her life. So congratulations to you, Sharon.
Let`s move on now to number three in our SHOWBIZ countdown. It`s a 9/11 Kardashian controversy. And there`s actually a call out there today to boycott NBC. A lot of outrage tonight I can`t even overstate this.
The "Today" show made a decision to not carry President Obama leading the nation in a moment of silence to remember the victims of September 11th like the other networks did. Instead, at that moment the "Today" show stayed with an interview they were doing with Kim Kardashian`s mom, Kris Jenner, talking about things about her breast implants. Let`s watch what they were doing.
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KRIS JENNER, KIM KARDASHIAN`S MOTHER: Anybody that`s dine this, I had my implants done in 1989 and that was a long time ago. And so it`s just really important to pay attention to what your body is telling you, and my body was saying, you`re tired, it`s enough. Get it fixed.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
HAMMER: OK, again, that going on while every other network broke into the 9/11 coverage. That takes us right to our SHOWBIZ flashpoint. Anything wrong with the "Today" show sticking with Kris Jenner and that interview. Michael Yo?
YO: Yes, I think it was a big mistake. I mean you`re in New York City doing this show. I think it was a terrible, terrible thing to do. And I don`t want everybody getting on Kris Jenner, she didn`t have control of it. It was on the "Today" show. And I think it was just bad taste, and I think if they could do it again, they would totally not do that interview right then.
HAMMER: But it had to have been a conscious choice on their part. It wasn`t an accident that this happened, Michael. So that known, would NBC`s decision perhaps had been less offensive had they not been talking about breast implants at the time? Maybe if they were talking about the economy? I mean it really did show such a stark contrast because of the content of that conversation.
YO: I don`t think whatever content was going on, it would have been -- the 9/11 cause would overshadow it. I think they could have been talking to anybody. I really feel -- they could have been talking at anybody at that time, and it`s just a bad choice by the "Today" show. So it doesn`t matter who was there. But yes, a Kardashian was there, so everybody attaches themselves to that and all the media jumps in on that.
HAMMER: Well, yes, I mean it really -- it just -- it just seems so strange and out of place, and again, it has nothing to do with Kris Jenner doing it.
YO: Yes.
HAMMER: And NBC has defended their decision. They did come out very strongly saying honoring the moment of silence is not a tradition on the "Today" show, adding that "Today" has not observed a moment of silence during its shows on 9/11 since 2006.
It still seems pretty strange and a lot of people are pretty upset by it.
Well, we still haven`t revealed what is number one on the SHOWBIZ countdown, anything wrong with that?
Trisha, Michael, stay where you are. We`re moments away from revealing who made the top spot tonight.
But now on to Lady Gaga`s wildest look yet? Could be. You know, we`ve seen her in a meat dress, we`ve seen her in masks, monster heels. But tonight we`re going to reveal what could be her most outrageous look to date.
And it`s a transformation of one young model you`re not going to believe. Can`t wait to show this to you. This is a 19-year-old who uses YouTube to reveal her battle with severe acne. It actually scores her a gig at New York`s Fashion Week.
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CASSANDRA BANKSON, MODEL: I know it doesn`t look like it, but taking my makeup off is one of the most insecure things I could probably do for me. Here I am with no makeup, no nothing, no eyes, and I feel really disgusting.
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HAMMER: Wait until you see this remarkable video of this inspirational teen. I`m going to show it to you coming up.
This is SHOWBIZ TONIGHT on HLN.
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HAMMER: It is time now to reveal who is number one in our SHOWBIZ countdown of the top five bombshell breaking stories that have us asking, anything wrong with that?
Here`s who made our top five so far. At number five, Heidi Klum`s divorce confessions. The supermodel speaking out for the very first time after Seal`s public comments accusing her of fornicating with the help.
At number four, Sharon Osbourne`s weight wars. The co-host of "The Talk" announces her new deal with Atkins. And at number three tonight, the "Today" show`s 9/11 Kardashian controversy. The morning show takes some pretty major heat for "Keeping Up with Kardashians" Kris Jenner instead of the 9/11 tribute.
And that brings us to number two on our SHOWBIZ countdown. Justin Bieber`s heartthrob headache?
In a brand new interview with Ryan Seacrest, the pop star says he wants to prove he`s not just another teen heartthrob. Let`s listen.
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JUSTIN BIEBER, SINGER: I just don`t want to be just another teen heartthrob, because that`s just -- I just think that annoys me to think that`s what people will think of me or, like, I just want to prove people wrong.
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HAMMER: OK. I`ll be bringing back Trisha Goddard, host of the new syndicated daytime talk show "Trisha Goddard." From Hollywood Michael Yo, host of "The Yo Show" on Yahoo."
So you heard it, Justin saying he wants to prove, I`m not just another teen heartthrob. That`s not how I want people to see me. He truly believes that his new album "Believe" is going to prove that, Trisha.
Anything wrong with Bieber not wanting to be a teen heartthrob anymore?
GODDARD: A word of warning, don`t diss the fans, you know, because if you diss being a teenage heartthrob, you`re kind of putting off all those fans who followed you. And I don`t think -- I remember when I was 7 years old and I said to my mom one day, I want to be called Christine from this day on. I mean it`s just -- that`s not how it works. You have to become that person.
So I`d say to Justin, just be cool. Just wait and people will make their own minds up about your music and what it is or what it isn`t.
HAMMER: Yes, you don`t want to bite the hand that feeds you.
Michael Yo, you`ve been following the Biebs for a long time.
YO: Yes.
HAMMER: Anything wrong with what he`s wanting to change?
YO: No, I think it`s right on, because if you look at O-Town, `NSYNC, Backstreet Boys, the only person that stands out is Justin Timberlake. So if you`re a heartthrob when you`re young and can`t make the transition when you turn 18, you`re going to lose your younger audience. And you`re going to lose the older audience as well. Because now for Justin Bieber being 18 it`s about women 18 to 24 that needs to buy his album.
It is for guys to like his music in the club. So he has to make the transition and if he doesn`t he could be gone in two years. Because Justin Bieber has only had one song that`s been in the top 10, so he`s at that point where he needs hits.
HAMMER: Yes.
YO: Right now, and it seems like he has one so.
HAMMER: Well, Ryan Seacrest did ask him how he plans on pulling this off. Let`s watch what the Biebs told Mr. Seacrest.
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BIEBER: I think "Believe" is really -- my album has really showcased what I`m capable of, especially becoming an 18-year-old and becoming an adult, and hearing older people say, wow, like this new album is great. Like, I didn`t know that was Justin Bieber, or you know, wow, like, I never used to listen to Justin Bieber`s music and now I like his music, or, "as long as you love me," that`s Justin Bieber singing?
Like, I like those reactions because I feel like they`re now -- they`re judging me based on my music and not based on, you know, my -- a flick of my hair.
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HAMMER: All I will say is travel that road carefully, Mr. Bieber.
Well, it`s time now to reveal who is number one on our SHOWBIZ countdown of the top five bombshell breaking stories that have us asking, anything wrong with that? And wow, this one has gotten a lot of reaction.
Number one on the SHOWBIZ countdown is Chris Brown`s controversial new tattoo some people are saying has a haunting resemblance to his ex- girlfriend Rihanna.
Here`s CNN`s Jeanne Moos for SHOWBIZ TONIGHT.
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JEANNE MOOS, CNN SPECIAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Chris Brown`s people say it was a case of mistaken identity. The identity of a tattoo.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Is that Rihanna`s face?
MOOS: A tattoo spotted on Chris Brown`s neck.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The eyes are Rihanna`s eyes.
MOOS: His former girlfriend, who even now she tells Oprah --
RIHANNA, SINGER: He was the love of my life. He was my first love.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It was like the Rihanna that he beat up.
MOOS: It looks so much like that of Rihanna, that even after Brown`s representative said it wasn`t her, just a random woman, even then when TMZ asked readers about Chris` tat, three quarters said it was definitely Rihanna.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It`s creepy.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It`s gross.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It strikes me as sick.
MOOS: Just the idea that Brown would have a tattoo of a battered woman on hi his neck prompted tweets like, "The end is near, folks. Stockpile water and bullets."
But one young woman we spoke with looked at the tattoo and saw something different.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: A skeleton maybe?
MOOS: And sure enough, by mid-afternoon, Chris Brown`s rep said his tattoo is a sugar skull. Similar to a skull made out of sugar to honor departed souls on Mexico`s Day of the Dead. A rep describes the tattoo as a sugar skull based on a Mac cosmetics design. They even released the design that Brown is said to have given the tattoo artist.
As for all the flack Brown got when most folks thought it was Rihanna --
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Come on, Chris Brown, you know better than this. I know your mother taught you better than that. That`s what I`m going to say to you. Even though I love you.
MOOS: Now she can love him again. Even for Chris Brown, wearing a battered woman tattoo seems like sticking his neck out too far.
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HAMMER: That was CNN`s Jeanne Moos with our number one on the SHOWBIZ countdown tonight.
Well, no new tattoos for Lady Gaga, but one wild change in her look. You see the unique dress and masks and all the other stuff, but tonight we reveal what could be her most outrageous look --
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JUSTIN BARTHA, "DAVID MURRAY": I don`t know, my dad screwed me up pretty good. What do you think two dads would do to a kid? Do you think it`s such a good idea to bring a kid in the world with such a nontraditional family?
ANDREW RANNELLS, "BRYAN COLLINS": I know somebody else with a nontraditional family. An African-American who`s raised by a grandma. And that person seems to be doing just fine.
BARTHA: Oh, yes, Barack Obama.
RANNELLS: No, Mariah Carey.
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HAMMER: Such a good show. And tonight it`s the hilarious new sitcom everybody is buzzing about. "The New Normal." Now unfortunately not all of the buzz had been about how funny the show is. Tonight I go one on one with the show`s cast about its controversial new take on the modern family.
Well, despite the fantastic writing and the strong reviews from the debut episodes of "The New Normal," the sitcom about two gay men who were looking to have a baby with a surrogate mom has sparked outcries from anti-gay groups. Even one local TV station refused to air the comedy. So when I sat down with the stars of the show, Andrew (INAUDIBLE) and (INAUDIBLE) and Georgia King, I had to ask them if they were at all bothered by the controversy.
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HAMMER: Sadly, here we are in 2012. The premise of the show, the fact that Andrew, Justin, you guys play an openly affectionate gay couple having a baby with a surrogate, and that has upset people. One station in Salt Lake City, as you guys know, refused to run the show, although another one did, fortunately, pick it up.
Andrew, you`re openly gay in real life. Isn`t it just still deserving to you that in this day and age, this is still an issue?
RANNELLS: Yes. I mean, I think that it`s a -- it`s a little disappointing, yes. It`s kind of a bummer that that`s sort of what we were -- we`ve agreed with because, I mean, having, you know, worked so close with the show and seeing the pilot, sort of, you know, what I took away from it and what my family took away from it when they saw it was, just that it was -- it was a story about the love that it takes to start a family.
BARTHA: One of the great things about our country is that everyone can have their own opinions and hopefully touching on what Andrew said that it`s an informed opinion. I think that differences in viewpoints is a lot of what our show is about. And I just hope it can cause some kind of discourse in conversation the day after they watch it.
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HAMMER: Let`s hope it does. "The New Normal" airs Tuesday night on NBC.
Coming up tonight, a model faces her greatest fear.
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BANKSON: But taking my makeup off is one of the most insecure things I can probably do for me. Here I am with no makeup, no nothing, no eyes, and I feel really disgusting.
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HAMMER: You have got to hear the inspirational story of a teen model who was bullied for having severe acne. I`m going to tell you why she put her bare face and acne on YouTube, and how it just scored her an awesome new gig.
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HAMMER: Lady Gaga shaves her head. Well, partially, anyway. The mother monster has had a lot of wild hair in the past, of course, but this time she buzzed the back of her head as a tribute to the late mother, friend and photographer, Terry Richardson.
Here`s what Gaga tweeted about that, in part, "I did it for you, Terry. I`m sorry about your mommy."
Terry and Gaga collaborated on (INAUDIBLE) photography book. It`s called "Lady Gaga X Terry Richardson." They did that late last year.
And if you thought that was a transformation, I`d like you to meet model Cassandra Bankson. Now the 19-year-old model just conquered her greatest in security and made it all the way to the runways of Fashion Week. Cassandra is now walking the catwalk for designer Stacy Igel and it`s all because she publicly revealed her struggle with severe cystic acne.
Take a look at this before and after. Cassandra used YouTube to show others how she covers up her severe acne and she`s gotten nearly 12 million hits so far.
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BANKSON: If I`ve told you about my acne so many times, I`ve always thought (INAUDIBLE). I know it doesn`t look like it, but taking my makeup off is one of the most insecure things I could probably do for me. This is probably the most nerve-wracking thing I could possibly do because it is my biggest insecurity. But this is my face.
The sad part is that this is a lot better than it used to be. I mean it`s still all over my chest, it`s all over my back. It`s just -- it`s everywhere and you can see it goes down my neck. It`s like all on my ear. I mean it`s been like this and it`s gotten a lot better, but it`s still really, really bad.
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HAMMER: Wow, so inspiring, Cassandra. You look great. Congratulations on your new gig at Fashion Week. Nice going.
Well, tonight it`s sex and relationship Wednesday on Dr. Drew. He`s talking with the authors of "Dumped" about how women can get over a breakup and take charge of their lives. Dr. Drew starts right now.
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