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Reality Show on Whitney Houston Family Raises Controversy; Relatives Fight Over Robin Gibb`s Estate; Fame Too Much for Pint-Sized Star?; The Top Three Showbiz Mouse Breakers; Katie Holmes New Celebrity Judge in "Project Runway All Stars"; Eva Longoria Single Again

Aired October 24, 2012 - 23:00   ET

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A.J. HAMMER, HOST: Tonight the SHOWBIZ Countdown, Legendary Secrets a Houston family news maker interview. Amazing secrets about Kristina`s stunning engagement. It`s the Houston family`s incredible revelations to SHOWBIZ TONIGHT. They are absolutely stunning. But will they top the SHOWBIZ Countdown, "Legendary Secrets"?

Hello. I`m A.J. Hammer. Thank you for watching.

We`ve got two big "SHOWBIZ Countdowns" tonight, including today`s big SHOWBIZ "Mouse Breakers". Yes, I said "Mouse Breakers." Big news breaking today about three former Mouseketeers who are now some of the biggest stars in the world, including news about Justin Timberlake`s marriage, Britney Spears court battle and an amazing Ryan Gosling flashback you`ve got to see. Who will be our No. 1 "Mouse Breaker"? The big reveal is coming up.

But we begin our first SHOWBIZ Countdown of the night, "Legendary Secrets." Brand-new secrets revealed today about three legends.

And we kick off the countdown at No. 3 with Whitney Houston`s family.

So tonight was the big debut on Lifetime of a controversial new reality show that revealed the secrets of Whitney Houston`s family in the months just after Whitney`s shocking and unexpected death. The show is called "The Houstons on Their Own." And I just spoke with Whitney`s former sister-in-law, Pat Houston, who stars in the show.

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PAT HOUSTON, WHITNEY`S FORMER SISTER-IN-LAW: We`re going through what we go through. People grieve differently. You know, there`s -- whatever issues or problems that we may have, we stand together and we deal with it. Cameras there or not.

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HAMMER: I`ve got to tell you, Pat was incredibly frank. She was so open with me about all the heat that Whitney`s family has been getting for letting those cameras record their lives so soon after Whitney died. And there`s been a lot of heat. So wait until you see what she told me.

Noelle Nikpour is with me in New York tonight. Noelle is the author of a great book. It`s called "Branding America." Bill Bellamy is in Hollywood tonight. Bill`s starring in the new syndicated sitcom "Mr. Box Office." Be sure to check your listings for show times.

Good to have you here, guys.

And you know there`s been a ton of anticipation about the Houstons` reality show. And before tonight`s debut, I think opinions were really split right down the middle. You had so many fans who were so excited to get this insider look at the family. And you had a lot of people saying, "You know what? Too much, too soon."

Well, when I sat down with Pat Houston, I asked her if she understands why the sides are so divided. Let`s watch.

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HAMMER: Why was it important for you to do this show and so soon?

HOUSTON: Well, you can`t really -- so soon, I don`t know when would be the right time to -- when would be the right time? You don`t know. You just continue what you always do and that`s try to live. Taking one -- living one day at a time. And that`s all we are doing.

HAMMER: But I know that there`s also a great concern for when reality TV cameras are allowed in. And I realize Bobbi Kristina has been around cameras her entire life, but this is different. You`re exposing personal stuff, conversations and life moments that wouldn`t otherwise be out there for people to see, for people to judge.

HOUSTON: You know what? We are such a strong unit. Cameras, without -- with Whitney here, the judgments were there. People were judgmental, the critics were in our lives, particularly Whitney`s, particularly Bobbi Kristina`s.

We are -- the family is not in an isolated situation dealing with it privately. We are public with it. There`s nothing to hide. We`re going through what we go through. People grieve differently. You know, there`s -- whatever issues or problems that we may have, we stand together and we deal with it. Cameras there, or not.

HAMMER: So on the show, we see Nick, who has lived with Whitney and with Bobbi Kristina for years now. We see their relationship. And see the family divided about their relationship and about Nick. As a matter of fact, at one point in the first episode they make a major announcement together. I want to look at that right now.

BOBBI KRISTINA BROWN, WHITNEY`S DAUGHTER: You see mommy`s ring? It is also -- it`s also an engagement ring.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Really?

BROWN: Yes.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Say that again.

BROWN: We`re engaged.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Really?

BROWN: We`re engaged.

HAMMER: OK. So now that they`re engaged, Pat, as Bobbi Kristina`s guardian, have you said OK to this guy and given them their approval and blessing as a couple?

HOUSTON: No. Not as a couple. Absolutely not. They`re young, you know. And he was the closest person to her, because he was living in the home with them. So I perfectly understood why they would come up with something like that.

And they actually came to my office in my home and sat down with me and told me that they wanted to get engaged. And I`m looking at the both of them like they have four heads: "Engaged, are you serious?" I didn`t even blink. I said, "OK." I said, "All right." Because I knew that it was just a moment, a phase.

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HAMMER: Or is it? Now listen, we heard her. Pat was just unapologetic there, Noelle, but do you find it as surprising as I do that Whitney`s family would agree to expose themselves like this on a reality show and so soon after Whitney`s death? I still don`t quite get it.

NOELLE NIKPOUR, AUTHOR, "BRANDING AMERICA": You know, to me it`s a twofold. I think that this tarnishes Whitney Houston`s beautiful legacy and her brand and her beautiful voice.

You know, we all know that she had trouble towards the end, but you know, when her death came about, a lot of people just remembered the fond memories.

This also does one thing for Bobbi Kristina. This gives Bobbi Kristina a platform in which she can introduce herself and create her brand as Bobbi Kristina away from Whitney to -- to kind of see how she`s going to fare in what she`s doing.

I think a lot of people, although they do not like it, I`m not a fan of this. You know, I think they`re exploiting Whitney`s death. But I think a lot of people are curious, so they`re going to tune in.

HAMMER: Oh, yes. No. There`s going to be a huge curiosity factor for Whitney`s fans. They want to see how Bobbi Kristina, who`s only 19, and we`ve seen the trouble she`s been through. They want to see how she`s doing, Bill.

But I don`t know. I`m still concerned that the reality show could do more harm than good. And let me make this point very quickly. The reality families that implode all admit they had big issue and big problems before the cameras were there, and the cameras just made it worse. And this is a family that`s certainly had a lot of drama.

BILL BELLAMY, COMEDIAN: Yes. I mean, I think that it is a really tough, tough thing to do, being that Whitney`s no longer here, and now they`re going to probably get into, you know, areas that are uncomfortable. You know, that`s how reality shows go.

And, you know, the more you watch them, you see they get -- they get in there. They get in there. They get to the problems. They get into the fighting. They get into the secrets, so to speak.

So I mean, I know people are going to watch out of curiosity, but for me, being you know, like a family friend, it`s a little -- it`s a little tough to really wrap my head around it. Because I`m like, wow, that is a gutsy move.

HAMMER: Yes. And they`re doing it with all of the usual conventions and sort of cliches that you see on any other reality show. So it will be interesting to see.

BELLAMY: Yes, all that stuff.

HAMMER: It`s all the usual stuff.

Well, while the Houston family hit reality TV tonight, a brand-new reality is hitting the family of another legend. This is so fascinating to me.

It comes in No. 2 on the SHOWBIZ Countdown of "Legendary Secrets." It`s the bombshell new reports today about this messy fortune left behind by the late Robin Gibb.

Listen to this. The legendary Bee Gee star was reportedly worth $148 million when he died last May from cancer. His fortune included a $24 million family home in Oxfordshire, England; a $4.1 million beach house in Miami; a London property that was estimated to be worth some $12.8 million.

Here`s where it`s getting messy. In addition to the three children with his wife, Gibb reportedly fathered a child with his housekeeper. Now lawyers are saying it could take up to five years to sort out who gets what. That is a lot at stake.

But perhaps the only thing messier than Robin Gibb`s money, it`s Rod Stewart`s hair. That`s right. It`s No. 1 tonight on our SHOWBIZ Countdown of today`s top "Legendary Secrets."

Rod Stewart has finally let out the surprising secret behind his spiky and iconic hair. Stewart just revealed to ABC`s Juju Chang on "Nightline" how the whole crazy spiky hair thing actually started. Watch.

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JUJU CHANG, ABC`S "NIGHTLINE": Did you really do it up with sugar water, though, when you were a kid?

ROD STEWART, SINGER: Yes. Absolutely. This is in the days, you know, before hair lacquer.

CHANG: so how did you do it? How do you get...?

STEWART: Just sugar and warm water, and rub it in there and then it would stick up erect.

CHANG: Erections are...

STEWART: Steady. They have been, yes. Where is this interview going?

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HAMMER: And I`ve got to give a big shout-out to Juju there for not losing it when Rod confirmed that erections are steady. And Bill, please don`t say anything about his name being Rod. OK? That would just be childish. But can you believe Rod has looked like that since he was a kid?

BELLAMY: I think -- I think he`s an icon, man. And you know what is so interesting, is we forget back in the day they didn`t have products.

HAMMER: That`s right.

BELLAMY: That was very creative. So you know, he grabbed a little cup of sugar water, you know, warm it up. Not even a microwave. He probably had to do it on the stove. And it just -- boosh! HAMMER: And stay away from the bugs if you`re going to use the Rod Stewart method. All right.

BELLAMY: Yes. What about the bees?

NIKPOUR: Yes.

HAMMER: Well, the bees are always the problem with sugar and water.

All right. We`ve got to move on tonight, because you must get ready for another spectacular SHOWBIZ Countdown. SHOWBIZ TONIGHT revealing all of the secrets of Justin Timberlake`s blockbuster celebrity wedding to Jessica Biel, but will J.T. top our SHOWBIZ "Mouse Breakers" countdown? It`s the former Mouseketeers who are breaking big news tonight.

Plus, Honey Boo-Boo`s meltdown?

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DR. DREW PINSKY, HLN HOST, "DR. DREW ON CALL": Is it difficult to be on TV? She`s sleeping.

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HAMMER: Brand-new evidence that the fame game just could be too much for 7-year-old Honey Boo-Boo. SHOWBIZ TONIGHT dares to ask, is Honey Boo-Boo being exploited by her own family?

This is SBT, SHOWBIZ TONIGHT on HLN.

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HAMMER: A special SHOWBIZ Countdown of the "Most Extreme Star Makeovers," Jessica, Katie and Miley, their amazing transformations. Find out who will be No. 1 on SHOWBIZ TONIGHT.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Let her drink.

JUNE THOMPSON, MOTHER OF ALANA: I`ve got to drink a sip.

ALANA THOMPSON, PAGEANT COMPETITOR: I thought you was done.

J. THOMPSON: You knew I was -- I was...

(END VIDEO CLIP)

HAMMER: Yes, that`s Honey Boo-Boo. The little girl from Georgia that America loves to watch act up on her hit reality show "Here Comes Honey Boo-Boo." But is her TV life becoming way too much for her to handle?

Just this week she nearly slapped HLN`s Dr. Drew while he was trying to get the real story behind her remarkable fame. So here`s the question that everyone, including CNN`s Jeanne Moos, is asking: does Honey Boo-Boo need to leave the spotlight for her own good?

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JEANNE MOOS, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Pick the toughest interviewee. Is it Dick Cheney?

DICK CHENEY, FORMER VICE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: So?

MOOS: Is it Charlie Sheen?

CHARLIE SHEEN, ACTOR: I am on a drug. It`s called Charlie Sheen.

MOOS: But they`re child`s play compared to Honey Boo-Boo.

DREW PINSKY, HLN HOST: Let me ask you some questions.

ALANA THOMPSON, REALITY TV STAR: Oh!

MOOS: HLN`s Dr. Drew had to contend with pretend snoring.

PINSKY: Is it difficult to be on TV?

She`s sleeping.

MOOS: But the week before, on KTLA, they probably wished she`d dozed off...

A. THOMPSON: (UNINTELLIGIBLE)

MOOS: ... instead of belting out songs. The 7-year-old star of TLC`s reality show "Here Comes Honey Boo-Boo" bounced her way through the interview. She played games.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Hang on.

MOOS: Mom didn`t have enough hands to stop her.

A. THOMPSON: Whoa, whoa.

MOOS: Honey Boo-Boo is on a tear. While on her latest media tour, from "Extra" -- to "Jimmy Kimmel," she couldn`t sit still.

JIMMY KIMMEL, LATE NIGHT TALK SHOW HOST: They don`t know...

THOMPSON: You better redneckognize!

MOOS: The crowd recognized one of her favorite sayings. She went from interview to interview acting up.

(on camera) Now, a lot of people are booing all of the attention being showered on Honey Boo-Boo.

SHARON OSBOURNE, TV PERSONALITY: I honestly think that people are doing a disservice to this child.

MOOS (voice-over): Sharon Osbourne`s family had their own reality show.

OSBOURNE: I think 7 is way too young.

MOOS: The media grind can leave you pooped.

Honey Boo-Boo`s family seems to be exceptionally loving. That didn`t stop people online from posting dire predictions: "This will end badly."

Already, she`s been portrayed on "SNL."

VANESSA BAYER, CAST MEMBER, NBC`S "SATURDAY NIGHT LIVE": And always be telling off no one in particular!

MOOS: Debuted on "South Park."

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I`ve already had three heart attacks, girlfriend!

MOOS: And been mentioned by the president.

OBAMA: Honey Boo-Boo endorsement.

THOMPSON: Marack [SIC] Obama.

OBAMA: So that`s a big relief.

MOOS: She almost swatted Dr. Drew.

PINSKY: Hi, hi.

JUNE THOMPSON, MOTHER: Don`t hit.

MOOS: these days, she`s less honey...

(SOUND OF SNORING)

MOOS: ... more boo-boo.

PINSKY: Is there something exciting you`d like to talk about?

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HAMMER: And she did say Marack [SIC] Obama, for the record. And I want to thank CNN`s Jeanne Moos for SHOWBIZ TONIGHT.

And on her official Facebook fan page, Honey Boo-Boo`s mom, Mama June, is insisting that her daughter does love being a star. Well, whatever the truth, the second season of "Here Comes Honey Boo-Boo" is already taping, and you know the Honey Boo-Boo train doesn`t seem to be stopping anytime soon.

I want to bring in my good friend, actor and comedian Bill Bellamy in Hollywood. He stars in a new syndicated sit-com. It`s great, called "Mr. Box Office." He`s still laughing at "South Park," I`m sure. Be sure to check your local listings for show times on that.

OK, Bill. Honey Boo-Boo right there, trying to smack my friend, Dr. Drew, screaming at the top of her lungs, throwing dolls. I`m thinking it`s time for a major time-out. Isn`t that what she needs?

BELLAMY: A.J., it is a -- I`m talking a national time-out. Shut it down. She`s doing too much. She`s too young. The fame, the family, everyone is all gassed up. She`s a child, you know, and she definitely needs an old- fashioned, I mean grandma -- woo, you know what I mean? A good one, too, where your grandmom would make you go get the switch. She`s out of control.

HAMMER: She is out of control, and it was interesting today, Bill, as I`m watching on Twitter, one of our top tweets on HLN is all about Honey Boo- Boo, people asking if she`ll be famous ten years from now.

BELLAMY: Oh, no.

HAMMER: She`s at the top of her game at just 7 years old. I can`t imagine it will last.

All right, Bill.

BELLAMY: I`m telling you, she -- A.J., she`s going to be the first kid on "16 and Pregnant," and she`s going to be 12.

HAMMER: OK. That is Bill`s opinion there.

We`ve got to move on. Because we have another star-studded SHOWBIZ Countdown tonight, SHOWBIZ Mouse Breakers. Wait until you see this. Incredible first interview with Ryan Gosling, who was just a 12-year-old Mouseketeer here.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

RYAN GOSLING, FORMER MOUSEKETEER: The people of Disney are so incredibly amazing. They are so nice. They treated us like we were kings and queens.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

HAMMER: Amazing. SHOWBIZ TONIGHT is revealing that entire lost interview. But will it top our SHOWBIZ Countdown, of former Mouseketeers making big news tonight?

And I`ve got the "SHOWBIZ First Look" at the brand-new "Breaking Dawn, Part 2," behind-the-scenes footage, less than a month before the "Twilight" saga`s finale. You`ve got to see the stunning new look at the epic conclusion.

This is SBT, SHOWBIZ TONIGHT on HLN.

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HAMMER: I know Twihard fans around the world have been waiting for this. It`s the incredible new look at the "Breaking Dawn" finale just a month before the Twilight saga draws to its conclusion.

No one was expecting yet another glimpse, but we`ve got it for you. And I can tell you it includes some amazing, brand-new behind-the-scenes footage. So here now is SHOWBIZ First Look at the Twilight saga, "Breaking Dawn, Part 2."

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ROBERT PATTINSON, ACTOR: I have a bad habit of under estimating you.

KRISTEN STEWART, ACTRESS: My time as a human is over, but I never felt more alive.

TAYLOR LAUTNER, ACTOR: I didn`t expect you to seem so -- you.

STEWART: In part two, Bella wakes up a newborn and meets her child and her husband as a vampire.

PATTINSON: Bella`s made the change into a vampire without a hitch, really.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You`ve been watching four movies where you see vampires announce that, and now you can experience what it`s like to see the world visually as a vampire might.

STEWART: They will never have a chance to be together again.

PATTINSON: I think, really, as a child, it`s a really happy feeling.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The baby is Esme. She is this wonderful half vampire, half human child.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I have to report a crime.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Oh, my.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: When they find out about this child, they suspect that their ultimate law is being broken.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Esme is being accused of being a child bitten by a vampire.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: She is not an immortal.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You don`t create vampire children. It`s punishable by death.

LAUTNER: The Cullens know that they can`t take the Volturi by themselves so they need some backup.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I think the Cullens` greatest asset is their ability to bring in other vampires they`ve met around the world.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We will stand with you.

LAUTNER: A lot of red eyes around here.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: So that`s what brings about the kind of cataclysmic showdown that we see in this film.

STEWART: It`s a big movie. It`s hard to do something that matters to so many people.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It`s been building up and building up and building up. It gets a very visceral reaction out of people.

STEWART: They watch the movies for the same reasons that I make the movies, because I know what it`s like to love something so much.

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HAMMER: It is coming soon. The Twilight saga, "Breaking Dawn, Part 2" opens in theaters on November 16.

And tonight, we have a second must-see SHOWBIZ Countdown. It`s SHOWBIZ Mouse Breakers. We are going inside former Mouseketeer Justin Timberlake`s blockbuster celebrity wedding with Jessica Biel. Plus, find out what the newlyweds are saying about their special day.

And former Mouseketeer Britney Spears also making some big news tonight. The trial with the former manager is heating up. There are some startling bombshells about Britney`s infamous breakdown that are emerging.

But which former Mouseketeer will end up on the top of tonight`s SHOWBIZ Countdown?

This is SHOWBIZ TONIGHT on HLN.

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HAMMER: Right now on SHOWBIZ TONGHT, the SHOWBIZ Countdown, SHOWBIZ Mouse Breakers. Former Mouseketeers making big news tonight. Justin Timberlake`s wedding secrets revealed. The first photo, his serenade. Jessica Biel`s pink dress. Tonight, Justin reveals his big wedding secrets.

Plus, the lost interview of Justin`s fellow Mouseketeer, Ryan Gosling.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

GOSLING: The people of Disney are so incredibly amazing. They are so nice. They treated us like we were king and queens.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

HAMMER: Look at that guy, the adorable Ryan Gosling at just 12 years old. Will his smooth moves outdo Justin`s wedding bliss?

Well, we are counting down big SHOWBIZ "Mouse Breakers". Former Mouseketeers breaking news tonight.

SHOWBIZ TONIGHT continues right now.

Welcome back to SHOWBIZ TONIGHT. Thank you for watching. I`m A.J. Hammer with our SHOWBIZ Countdown of today`s top three show SHOWBIZ "Mouse Breakers".

I`m talking about super famous celebs who starred together as Mouseketeers on the Mickey Mouse Club when they were kids back in the `90s and they are breaking big news today from Britney Spears to Ryan Gosling to Justin Timberlake.

And Justin kicks us a off on the countdown at number three tonight. Because today, we got out very first look at his wedding. Those Mouseketeers, they certainly grow up fast, don`t they?

SHOWBIZ TONIGHT got a look today at the upcoming new "People" magazine. It has an exclusive look at the elegant Italian wedding of a high-jumping Timberlake and Jessica Biel. It is going to be on newsstands on Friday, but you don`t have to wait.

Because with me tonight in New York, "People" magazine`s Carlos Greer.

So, Carlos, the newlyweds sat down with "People" to talk all about this wedding which was very hush, hush, as we know. They really described it as a super romantic, a super elegant affair. So, tell us, please, what did "People" learn that hasn`t been known before about this?

CARLOS GREER, STAFF WRITER, "PEOPLE" MAGAZINE: Well, you know what, Justin he talked to the magazine. He told people that from the day that he proposed to her, they have been planning this dream wedding every single day since. It was a lot of fun, a lot of tears and laughter. Justin is a huge jokester. So there is a lot of comedic moments throughout the night, as well.

HAMMER: And I can only imagine the plan in their heads to going to keeping this thing so hush hush. We are talking today about this amazing revelation about a song that was performed at the wedding by Justin as Jessica walked down the aisle. What can you tell me? What you guys learn about that?

GREER: Well, he wrote a song specifically for her. It is an original song. And you know, what is interesting is that we haven`t heard Justin sing in a few years. And so, as she walked down the aisle he sang this song for her she told the magazine that she was feeling butterflies. She was a little nervous before walking down the aisle. But the moment she saw Justin she felt a sense of calm and she just felt like we got this.

HAMMER: That`s perfect. I love it. It is a truly romantic day for them. Even these big stars - and another I think a lot of people have been wondering about, Jessica Biel did speak with people about this, the possible name change.

So Carlos, will we see, I don`t know, Jessica Timberlake on the movie marquee, some form of hyphenation? What is it going to be?

GREER: You are not going to see Justin Timberlake on the marquee, but she is changing her name but she is keeping her professional name Jessica Biel.

HAMMER: What are we calling them, by the way, Jessica? Do we have name?

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GREER: I`m not particularly the fan of those things any way. Well, Justin`s very famous former girlfriend, is another former Mouseketeer breaking news today. Our number two show business mouse breaker Britney Spears, whose disturbing break down a few years ago is now front and center in this bitter trial that continued today in Los Angeles.

Britney`s former manager, Sam Lutfi, is suing Britney and her parents for libel and breach of contract and he just testified that made some pretty wild accusations about Britney.

I want to bring in television commentator Noelle Nikpour. She joins me in New York. Noelle is the author of the excellent book, "Branding America." So Noelle, should Britney`s family just settle with Lutfi instead of letting this trial play out and remind everyone just how troubled and fragile she was back then.

NIKPOUR: No. I do not think they need to settling with him because as far as I am concern he is an enabler. And another this is, if you look deeply into this, he never had a signed contract. It was all verbal about Britney meeting him at a club saying that she was going to give him 15 percent of what she took in. He had done nothing but actually drive a wedge between Britney and her parents. He was one of the biggest, like I said, enablers of her career. And if you remember, she had her big meltdown with him at the helm.

HAMMER: Yes. No, I guess it is really important for the family to be standing their ground right now.

But Carlos, this trial is really giving us a new glimpse in to just how troubled Britney was during that time, isn`t it?

GREER: It is ugly, you know. There are a lot of things that have been revealed. I remember during that time it wasn`t pretty at all. She was hospitalized a lot. But they are claiming is she apparently was abusing a lot of drugs during that time. Crystal meth, they are saying, was found in her carpet. She shaved her hair off because she was afraid she was going have to do a drug test, they would detect drugs in her hair. So, it is really ugly and she has a very painful memories.

HAMMER: Yes. I mean, well, that is one thing that is going on here. I understand them standing their ground. But we are learning so many new details now.

NIKPOUR: Well, and that is the problem. Britney Spears finally has, you know, got a wholesome, good brand again. As someone that looks at brands I think that she has made a comeback. But you know, the sad thing as it is, unfortunately, is this trial is going to, you know, make people remember the crazy shaved head Britney that everyone, you know, wants to put back in the past. So that is a down fall of it.

But what she needs to do is keep on, you know, with her celebrity websites and her Facebook and her Twitter, reminding people that she is solid. She is back on track and that was the old Britney and not the new one.

HAMMER: Yes. I think you make a great point. Because I don`t think that anyone is sitting around saying oh, she`s really still that person. We are seeing how well she is doing right now and seems to be on a terrific path. And I think a lot of it has to do with the conservatorship that her father took control of, so. You know, I think as long as she continues on the current path we will all just keep it as part of her history.

NIKPOUR: Absolutely.

HAMMER: Well, just like Britney and just like Justin, another huge star is also someone who got his start as a Mouseketeer. He is number one SHOWBIZ "Mouse Breaker". And by the way, we coined that phrase, "mouse breaker."

He is former Mouseketeer turned Oscar-nominated actor, Ryan Gosling as you are seeing here. And we learned today that a Canadian talk show has just revealed an unbelievable video of an interview Ryan did when he was 12- years-old just after he won his part on the Mickey Mouse Club. Even back then, you had Ryan as this guy who is just too smooth for words. Watch with me.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE REPORTER: When you found out you got the part, what did you do?

GOSLING: I hit the roof. It was so fun. My mother and I were jumping around and my sister. It was amazing. The people of Disney are so incredibly amazing. They are so nice. They treated us like we were kings and queens. Like we came from just our houses where we had to do our own stuff and they did so much stuff. It was so neat.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE REPORTER: Nobody made you do chores?

GOSLING: No.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE REPORTER: So what`s your favorite? Do you like singing or dancing?

GOSLING: I don`t have a favorite. I like to do all of them.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE REPORTER: Are you going to do a bit for us this morning. I`m not really sure you can from what I gather.

GOSLING: You know what, there has to be some surprise. So, why don`t you watch the show and you then get to see me perform.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE REPORTER: Yes. But then, I have to wait for what, you are going to tape for six months starting in May, I mean. You want to be like Michael Jackson. Do you know his songs?

GOSLING: OK.

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HAMMER: That was just great. I don`t know. You can`t help but smile when you watch that. So Noelle, if I didn`t know better, I`m watching pretty closely and I`m thinking that Ryan is sitting there flirting with that TV anchor. He really had that kind of movie star charm and swagger back then, didn`t he?

NIKPOUR: Oh my God. I`m sitting here watching that going, wow. He was a smooth operator back at 12-years-old. Justin Bieber has nothing on that 12-year-old Ryan Gosling.

HAMMER: I love they released that, too because I`m sure that that anchor at the time couldn`t possibly have known. Listen. I interview a lot of young stars all the time. I have no idea they could turn out to be Oscar winners one day.

NIKPOUR: Oh, yes.

HAMMER: Well, Carlos Greer and Noelle Nikpour, that was loads of fun. Thank you both for being here for our mouse breakers tonight.

And as we move on tonight, Katie Holmes and her big TV appearance after divorcing Tom Cruise. Tonight, an insider is going to reveal what it was like to work with Katie Holmes just one day after news of her divorce from Tom.

Supermodel Carolyn Murphy was there with Katie on "Project Runway." She is going to tell us all about Katie`s state of mind while she was working on the show.

And plus, Taylor Swift historic sweep. The jaw-dropping news just revealed that has Taylor star power making history today. It is amazing.

This is SBT, SHOWBIZ TONIGHT on HLN.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE REPORTER: Please welcome Katie Holmes, Diane Von Furstenberg, Jason Lew, Kylie Minogue , Liv Tyler, Stacy Keibler.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It is like Marie Antoinette meets Fredricka (INAUDIBLE).

KATIE HOLMES, ACTRESS: I have been watching.

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HAMMER: Blink and you will miss it. A sneak peek of the newly single Katie Holmes a as celebrity judge on the brand new season "Project Runway All Stars," Season Two. This show promises to be really big. It is filled with all kinds of celebrity judges including Katie.

Did you know that exactly one day after Katie Holmes announced that she was divorcing Tom Cruise, she actually showed up for work on the set of "Project Runway All Stars" to be a celebrity judge. It is true.

And right now, I have the top insider from the show who does exactly how the day went down when all eyes were on Katie. There she is. Carolyn Murphy, who truly defines super in the term of supermodel. She has seen it all. She has been modeling since she was 16-years-old. She has been gracing the covers of every major fashion magazine in the world. Well, quite frankly, more times than we can count.

Carolyn knows exactly what it is like to live in the celebrity fishbowl. She is the host of the new season of "Project Runway All Stars." She is joining me right now here in New York.

Great to see you, Carolyn.

CAROLYN MURPHY, HOST, "PROJECT RUNWAY ALL STARS SEASON TWO": Nice to see you, too. Thank you for the introduction. Wow.

HAMMER: Well. And congratulations on the new season of "Project Runway All Stars." This is huge. I would like now to run down this list of celebrity judges joining you on the Show. You Have Kylie Minogue, you have George Clooney`s girlfriend Stacy Keibler, you got Liv Tyler, and as we mentioned, you have Katie Holmes.

I have to imagine you were all a bit shocked when she showed up considering the circumstances of the past 24 hours in her life.

MURPHY: Well, I think that there were concerns that she wouldn`t show up. That it was actually kept confidential for all of us who the guest judge was going to be. But she was so professional. She was truly lovely and just walked in the room like nothing was happening.

HAMMER: Yes, everybody says she has an amazing work ethic and I`m sure she needed to dive in to something. So, how did she do as a guest judge?

MURPHY: She was incredible. She was so articulate. She was also very well knowledge. And we have to remember that she actually has a line. She designs a collection. So, it is perfect that she was there and I think she did a great job.

HAMMER: Good for her. And who knows, maybe you can get her on as a regular judge for your upcoming season.

MURPHY: I think she would be perfect. Would be great and I`m sure she wants to work more and keep herself busy like you said.

HAMMER: Well, sadly, so far, the split of Tom and Katie remains the breakup of the year and now the queen of turning breakups in to hit songs is about to break some records that we find astounding.

At 22-years-old, Taylor Swift is about to make history, the first female artist to have a pair of albums sell more than a million units in a single week. Her new album "Red" just dropped. And on "The View" today, she opened up about turning heartache into hits and how she handles all that e- mails that she gets from all those guys that she dated who think that her latest song is about them. Let`s watch.

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TAYLOR SWIFT, SINGER: Sometimes to resort sending an Internet name back or something. I don`t know. At a certain point like, it is comical. Like, a certain point past a break up, you write a song like we are never, ever, ever getting back together. That means you are so over it that it is now funny.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Do you think the guys are gun shy about dating you because of that?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: That you will write a song about me.

SWIFT: I have never had anyone up to me and be like, I really want to take you to dinner but we have to talk about the fact that you are not allowed to write songs about me.

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HAMMER: (INAUDIBLE).

Carolyn, and she is obviously figured out a way to turn her pain and obstacles into a fashion of success. I have to imagine, that is something you have been experienced and something you see that the models push through on project runway.

MURPHY: Well, the models push through on project runway or the designers. I think it goes with any territory whether you are a celebrity or just dealing with life. I think Taylor Swift is incredible. I`m excited for her new album. And I have a young daughter and we love her. We have seen her in concerts and I just think she is incredible. But I wouldn`t want to be on the other side of the stick.

HAMMER: Yes, no.

MURPHY: I mean, to know that whatever happens, I mean, it would leave one guessing, is she writing about me. But there is also that mystery and excitement around that, too.

HAMMER: Exactly. Well, Carolyn, then don`t date her.

Carolyn Murphy, it is great to see you.

MURPHY: Thank you.

HAMMER: Be sure to catch the premiere of the new season "Project Runway All Stars." That`s tomorrow night on Lifetime.

All right. So tonight, the stars are coming together to save black men from extinction, huh?

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Millions of black men help cannot come fast enough.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: They are under siege from a hostile environment, rampant crime.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And all three Kardashian sisters.

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HAMMER: Wait until you see this. Tonight, DL Hughley assembled some of the biggest stars in Hollywood for very funny, very personal mission. We are going to show you his touching public service announcement next.

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HAMMER: I love about people celebrate my birthday. Halloween goes Gangnam style.

A Virginia man has his Halloween lights flickering to size hit song on you tube. It has gotten completely viral and it is pretty cool. And even better, the man says he`s actually seen people doing that horse dance outside of his house. Maybe with bayonets. I`m not sure.

Tonight, the stars come out to support a very important cause. You have seen public service announcements to save dogs and homeless cats. Well now, comedian DL Hughley is calling on the biggest stars in Hollywood to support what he calls bro life. A movement to save black men from extinction. Just watch.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Hello. I`m Dennis Heinsberg (ph) and I want to talk to you about a worthy cause black people, they are everywhere. But they may not be around much longer. Did you know every seven minutes in this country a black man is --

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: That is great. But if we have a chance at saving the black men we have to go with something more alabaster.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I can do it lighter.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You can`t be lighter and that`s the problem.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Hi. I`m Clay Aiken (ph). Black people, they are everywhere, but they may not be around much longer.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: For millions of black men, help cannot come fast enough.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: They are under siege from a hostile environment, rampant crime.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And all three Kardashian sisters, but you can make a difference.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Call now and you will receive this welcome kit with a photo, a monthly news letter and season one of "sister, sister."

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Remember, extinction --

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Extinction --

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Extinction --

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Extinction isn`t an option. I`m Howie Mandel. I`m bro life.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I`m bro life.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I`m bro life won`t you be bro life too.

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HAMMER: All right. Obviously, it is a spoof PSA funnier dive, put it together to help DL Hughley promote his comedy central special, "DL Hughley, The Endangered List."

So, was this PSA brilliant or bananas?

Well, let me go to comedian Bill Bellamy who stars in the hilarious syndicated sitcom, Mr. Box office.

So Bill, I`m sitting there and I`m watching that PSA, I`m and practically crying with tears of laughter. You throw in the first season of "Sister, Sister." I`m writing my check. Brilliant or bananas for you?

BELLAMY: It is brilliant. It is funny. It just makes fun of, you know, black men, the topic of black men. I think it is hysterical. I give kudos to DL Hughley and the people that did it. I think it is hysterical because it is like these are people that you wouldn`t expect to say it. It looks like a "Saturday Night Live" skit to me. So, I love it.

HAMMER: You can`t go wrong with Clay Aiken in there. And I have another brilliant or bananas story for you tonight. Not often would people question the class and elegance of James Bond`s star Dame Judi Dench. Take a look at this, though.

Dench plays Emme, of course, in the Bond films. She just step out in the world premiere of "Sky Fall" in London wearing this neck guzzle. It is this jewel encrusted 007 logo right there on her neck as even if she greeted Prince Charles and Duchess Camilla.

Bill, is this brilliant or bananas?

BELLAMY: I think this is - I think it is brilliant that she put it on her neck, OK. It would be bananas to have it placed in the wrong area because she is too old for that. But she is elegant. She is sexy still and she is an Oscar-award-winning actress. I like it on the neck. Not on the leg or the ankle.

HAMMER: I thought you were going to another place but I will stop you will, Bill.

BELLAMY: No.

HAMMER: Great to see you. Don`t forget to catch Bill in his hilarious sitcom, "Mr. Box Office". Got to check your local listings for that. Bill is going to be performing at the Denver Improv on November 16th through 18th.

Thanks, Bill.

Well tonight, we have Eva`s big split to talk about. Eva Longoria says good-bye to her high profile relationship with NFL player Mark Sanchez, but are they still friends?

This is SHOWBIZ TONIGHT on HLN.

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HAMMER: Tonight, Eva`s big break up. Eva Longoria and her NFL boyfriend are a couple no more.

Plus, Melissa Rycroft tells SHOWBIZ TONIGHT about her terrifying neck injury on "Dancing with the Stars" and it is all making big news in the buzz today.

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HAMMER: The show must go on. Melissa Rycroft took to the stage on "Dancing with the Stars" on Monday night despite suffering from a neck injury during rehearsal on Sunday. The former Dallas cowboys` cheerleader snapped her neck while practicing a group dance to Carly Rae Jepsen`s "call me maybe." She was rushed to the hospital.

Melissa got cleared to perform on Monday`s competition with partner, Tony Dovolani (ph) and after the show she opened up to SHOWBIZ TONIGHT about the injury that almost put her dancing days to an end.

MELISSA RYCROFT, CONTESTANT, DANCING WITH THE STARS: My neck kept going and snapped back. And it was the snap back that when I came up, I knew something was wrong. And so, that apparently, they said like some disk fluid leaked out at that moment. That`s what I felt. And - but again, they are so cautious here with, you know, protectionists that they had to call the ambulance. We had to go and get an MRI. I guess I`m glad we didn`t - I didn`t know it was serious as it was. I had no idea.

HAMMER: Eva`s breakup. Eva Longoria is single again. 37-year-old former "Desperate "Housewives star has ended her brief relationship with Mark Sanchez. "People" magazine reports the pair were spotted frequently together over the summer. The source closest the couple tells "People" that Eva and Mark split amicably and will remain friends.

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HAMMER: Tonight, a Tennessee judge stands trial for buying drugs and having sex with a woman in his courtroom. Isn`t that outrageous? Should judges be held to a higher standard?

"Divorce Court" Judge Lynn Toler weighs in on "DR. DREW ON CALL", right now.

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