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Top 5 Reasons Jodi Arias Trial is Like a True Hollywood Story; Halle Berry Channeled Real-Life Emergency for 911 Movie
Aired March 05, 2013 - 23:00 ET
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A.J. HAMMER, HOST: Tonight on the "SHOWBIZ Countdown," "Jodi Arias, True Hollywood Story." The top five ways this murder case is playing out like a Hollywood script. The emotional breakdowns, the strange twists, the shocking sexual testimony. What`s No. 1? SHOWBIZ TONIGHT starts right now.
Hello. I`m A.J. Hammer. Thank you for watching. Tonight it`s like a true Hollywood story. The violence, the twists, the turns, the breakdowns, and of course, the sex.
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KIRK NURMI, JODI`S DEFENSE ATTORNEY: When he grabbed your arm and bent you over the desk on June 4, 2008, and had sex with you, did you view that as a mistake?
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HAMMER: Yes, it`s the Jodi Arias murder trial happening in Phoenix, but playing out like a true Hollywood story, very day, before our eyes, as we watch it live here on HLN -- and today was Jodi`s 15th day on the witness stand.
And tonight in the "SHOWBIZ Countdown," we`re counting down the top five reasons this tawdry tale of murder -- with Jodi stabbing her boyfriend 27 times, slitting his throat, and shooting him -- is like a true Hollywood story.
With me tonight in New York, Sunny Hostin, who is a former federal prosecutor; and CNN`s legal analyst, attorney Darren Kavinoky is in Hollywood tonight. Darren is the host of "Deadly Sins" on Investigation Discovery, and it certainly is a deadly sin that Jodi Arias is accused of.
So let`s get right to it and kick off our countdown, guys. No. 5, all the talk about sex. You know, I was thinking about this. Even "Law" -- "Law & Order: SVU" couldn`t air some of this graphic testimony that we`ve heard from Jodi on the stand.
Well, today, Jodi`s attorney asked her even more questions about her sex life with the boyfriend she killed, Travis Alexander. Let`s watch how this played out, live right here on HLN.
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KIRK NURMI, JODI`S DEFENSE ATTORNEY: When he grabbed your arm and bent you over the desk on June 4, 2008, and had sex with you, did you view that as a mistake?
JODI ARIAS, MURDER DEFENDANT: No.
NURMI: How did you view that?
ARIAS: Just -- by then we were engaging in all kinds of activities without any boundaries. And so it was just something he wanted to do, and something I was fine with.
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HAMMER: OK, Sunny, I`ve got to get your perspective here, as a former federal prosecutor. how do you think this jury is possibly handling all the sex talk? Do you think in any way they are sitting there finding it at all titillating or are they probably thinking, you know, enough already with this?
SUNNY HOSTIN, FORMER FEDERAL PROSECUTOR: You know, I think it`s enough already. She`s been on the witness stand for 15 days. She`s described over and over again their sex lives.
And I think what`s most important, A.J., is part of the clip that you just showed. She says, "We had sex with no boundaries. We had activities with no boundaries, and I didn`t think it was wrong. I was consensual." So at this point, it`s sort of much ado about nothing.
I`ve got to tell you, I mean, you`ve got 11 male jurors on this jury listening to this testimony. I mean, she is sort of like a guy`s worst nightmare, sort of the psycho girlfriend that gets dumped and then kills you.
So the more she talks about this consensual sex life, I think it harms her case. It doesn`t help her case. Every guy sitting on that jury is thinking, "Oh, my God, she`s a bunny boiler. When is she getting off the witness stand?"
HAMMER: Yes, no, I think you make a terrific point. Darren, I know you have observed many a courtroom. Do you feel the same way?
DARREN KAVINOKY, HOST, INVESTIGATION DISCOVERY`S "DEADLY SINS": As the one here that has the "Y" chromosome, let me chime in that, you know, of all the deadly sins, Sunny, lust is a fan favorite. And I don`t know that guys ever really get sick of hearing about all that stuff.
And here -- yes, I agree she is absolutely a bunny boiler and a man`s worst nightmare. But compared to a lot of the really boring stuff that happens in courtroom, marking exhibits and laying foundations, this is some pretty juicy, good, titillating stuff.
So I think -- I think people, yes, you do definitely get a little bit numb to it the more you hear about it. But I don`t know that folks ever really get sick of it.
HAMMER: It was going on and on and on, and I do know that there are a lot of people in that juror box, saying, "I just want to get the heck out of here already." And the sex talk continues.
But it`s not just sexual testimony from Jodi. We`ve also heard raunchy phone conversations between Jodi Arias and her boyfriend that kind of played out like a sex scene in a movie.
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TRAVIS ALEXANDER, MURDER VICTIM (via phone): The way you moan, it sounds like -- it`s sounds like you`re a 12-year-old girl having her first orgasm. It`s so hot.
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HAMMER: Yes, I mean, we hear the stuff in films, and it creepily sounds like something you would hear in some sex-murder mystery, Sunny. And there`s an interesting plot twice, maybe, yet to come, because in Phoenix courts, the jury gets to question Jodi directly. So do you get -- somebody tell me what kind of questions you think they might be asking about her sex life?
HOSTIN: You know, I can`t wait for this part of the trial. Because we will finally get to know what the heck these folks are thinking after listening to all of this very salacious testimony.
I think they`re going to nail down and drill down and ask her, "Was this always consensual. Did he ever force you to do anything?" If I were sitting on that jury, A.J., that`s the question that I would have. Because if he never forced her to do any of this, in my view, it just doesn`t make the case that she was so abused that she had to kill him in self-defense. I think that`s sort of top of mind for most of the jurors.
HAMMER Well, let`s get the "Y" chromosome to weigh in on this. Darren, I`m putting you in that jury right now. What are you asking Jodi Arias?
KAVINOKY: Yes, I don`t know that there`s much to ask that hasn`t been already asked. Although I think Sunny makes an excellent point that, unless there`s some element of force or fear or duress or some lack of consent somewhere, it leaves me wondering why, what all this goes to.
And the person -- the people, I should say, that I feel horrible for are Travis Alexander`s family members that are sitting there and, through every moment of this...
HAMMER: Yes.
KAVINOKY: ... finding out a lot more about their lost loved one than they ever wanted to know.
HAMMER: Imagine that.
Well, emotions are certainly running high in court, and that actually brings us to No. 4. It`s the No. 4 reason that the Jodi Arias trial is like a true Hollywood story. All of those dramatic courtroom breakdowns. Now we all watched here on HLN as the prosecutor tried to get Jodi to look at pictures of Travis Alexander`s body. This is how that went.
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JUAN MARTINEZ, PROSECUTOR: Were you crying when you were shooting him?
ARIAS: I don`t remember.
MARTINEZ: Were you crying when you were stabbing him?
ARIAS: I don`t remember.
MARTINEZ: How about when you cut his throat, were you crying then?
ARIAS: I don`t know.
MARTINEZ: Take a look, then. You`re the one that did this, right?
ARIAS: Yes.
MARTINEZ: And you`re the same individual that lied about all this, right?
ARIAS: Yes.
MARTINEZ: So then take a look at it.
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HAMMER: All right. We`ve got a yelling prosecutor. We have the defendant crying on the stand. Sunny, I`m watching this and thinking this breakdown is straight out of just about every courtroom drama we`ve ever seen.
HOSTIN: Yes. I mean, you know what I`m doing, A.J.? I`m calling the Emmy committee, because that`s what she gets for that performance. It was a performance.
I mean, there were so many other times that I think were more high pressure that would have led many defendants to cry, but that part was, in my view, having tried a lot of cases, been in a lot of courtrooms, seen a lot of cases, covered a lot of cases that was, "Oh, man, I need to protect myself. I`m crying because I`m upset at what`s happening to me."
HAMMER: But you`ve got to wonder how it`s all going to work out for Jodi. We also saw her crying when she talked about the boyfriend that she`s accused of murdering. She claims that she killed him in self-defense.
But Darren, are these tear-jerking moments good for her defense? Is that going to play right into the jury`s hands?
KAVINOKY: Well, I think you`re assuming facts not in evidence, A.J. I don`t see these as tear-jerking moments. I don`t think those are actual tears.
Jodi Arias is the kind of person, I think -- my sense on her is that she studies other people to see what people do and then behaves that way, as an actor might.
And I`ve got to say, I`ve been very critical of Juan Martinez and his sometimes meandering cross-examination, but the moments that you play where he confronted her and she did that thing, where she`s hiding behind the hair and hiding behind her hand so you can`t see the non-tears, I thought that was some really effective stuff.
And you`re never going to get that "you can`t handle the truth" moment out of her...
HAMMER: OK.
KAVINOKY: ... because she`s too much of a sociopath or psychopath. We`ll have to call on Dr. Drew to do the actual diagnosis there, but that was -- that was some good courtroom drama.
HAMMER: Well, I`ll leave it to you to say whether or not it`s two scoops of crazy there, Darren Kavinoky.
KAVINOKY: Two scoops of crazy.
HAMMER: That takes us to No. 3. The No. 3 reason on our "SHOWBIZ Countdown" of why the Jodi Arias trial is just like a Hollywood story: the brutality of what she did. Let`s not forget she stabbed him more than two dozen times, slit his throat, for good measure, shot him, as well. Sunny, is that fact kind of getting drowned out here?
HOSTIN: You know, I think that the prosecution`s going to bring that back in closing argument. That is the image that will go back with this jury, if this prosecutor is worth his salt.
And I`ve got to tell you, after watching how aggressive he has been, I suspect that there`s no way that this jury will forget how very brutal this crime was.
HAMMER: Yes. Yes, indeed. Well, this brings us to the two biggest reasons the Jodi Arias trial is like a true Hollywood story. So Darren, Sunny, I need you to stay right where you are, because we`ve got that big reveal coming right up.
And also tonight, Duchess Catherine sparking a frenzy today by stepping out for a royal visit and revealing that she can feel that royal baby moving. So how is she dealing with the obsessive royal baby bump watchers?
And is reality TV royalty Kim Kardashian dealing with more baby bump pressure? Who is winning this baby bump battle?
Plus, has Bieber gone bad.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: This is my niece, who is just -- has a birthday (ph), and it`s really badly run. We had to leave early. I feel I let her down, you know. She says it was fine. It was just badly organized. We sat there for an hour and people booed him.
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HAMMER: Well, that`s no good. Justin Bieber causing another ruckus today in London. Why some fans are now calling his behavior disgusting. Will his apology be enough?
This is SBT, SHOWBIZ TONIGHT, on HLN.
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HAMMER: Welcome back to SHOWBIZ TONIGHT.
Not surprisingly it was another day of gripping live testimony seen right here on HLN as Jodi Arias spent her 15th day on the witness stand in her murder trial. And in the "SHOWBIZ Countdown" tonight, we`re revealing to you the top five reasons this trial is just like a true Hollywood story.
No. 5, all of the tawdry sex details that have been spilling out.
At No. 4, Jodi`s courtroom breakdowns, just like we see on the big screen.
No. 3, the brutally violent murder Jodi is accused of committing against her boyfriend, Travis Alexander.
That brings us to the No. 2 reason the Jodi Arias trial is just like a true Hollywood story, the love story. Jodi has testified that she loved her boyfriend and still does. And as we saw live on HLN today she revealed that he once proposed.
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NURMI: Was the subject of marriage previous to January 24, was that something that you and Travis were discussing?
ARIAS: Yes, we discussed it prior to that date.
NURMI: And had he ever proposed to you?
ARIAS: Yes, he did over the phone once. There were times when he said it jokingly, but that one over the phone, I believed he was serious.
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HAMMER: Well, there you have it. He proposed.
Let`s bring back former federal prosecutor and CNN legal analyst, Sunny Hostin.
Sunny, I know it`s tough to know exactly what to believe in this case and from Jodi`s mouth. But based on everything you`ve been seeing, do you believe Jodi Arias`s repeated statements that she does still love Travis?
HOSTIN: Wow, I don`t know. I mean, she`s so crazy. I really -- I think she`s got a can full of crazy there. And so it`s difficult to make sense of that. You know, does she really love him in her own really weird, psycho way? Maybe so, but doesn`t that make it really creepy, the fact that you would just, you know, hack away at someone in this manner so brutally and then say in front of the world that you still love him? I think it`s just downright creepy.
HAMMER: Yes. The answer is yes, really, really creepy.
We turn to Darren Kavinoky who`s back with us in Hollywood. What do you think, Darren?
KAVINOKY: There can`t be anybody in that courtroom that believes for a second that Travis would propose to her and she`d say anything other than yes. If there`s anything that comes out of Jodi`s mouth, you know it`s a lie.
And she`s made it very plain she`ll lie to save her skin. She`ll lie for no good reason. If her lips are moving, she`s lying. I ain`t buying it, and I don`t think anybody else is either.
HAMMER: Look, she`s fighting for her life, which is another reason it makes it a great Hollywood story. And that brings us to the big reveal of the No. 1 reason the Jodi Arias trial is just like a true Hollywood story: all the plot twists. It`s hard to follow along sometimes, Sunny. What has been the biggest twist so far in the Jodi Arias trial for you?
HOSTIN: You know, for me, the biggest twist was, you know, she remembers everything, every single detail on every single day of this trial, all the minutia: what she ordered at Starbucks, what he -- what Travis said to her, what she said to him.
And then, when the prosecutor gets where the -- where the defense gets to the day of the murder, the actual murder, she doesn`t remember a thing. She doesn`t remember a thing.
HAMMER: Yes.
HOSTIN: I was shocked.
HAMMER: That is pretty wild, isn`t it? Yet, she does have that Starbucks order down. Darren, the most -- the biggest twist for you?
KAVINOKY: Well, the biggest twist and the biggest surprise has been the extent to which the judge lets the lawyers just try their case. I`ve never heard of a witness being on the stand as long as Jodi has been with no end in sight. And as a lawyer, you love to have the ability to try your case, but oh, my goodness, that`s something that I have never seen.
HAMMER: Yes. Hollywood wishes they could make this kind of stuff up. Sunny, Darren, I thank you both. Appreciate it.
Well, another big "SHOWBIZ Countdown" is just ahead. You do not want to miss this. It`s today`s biggest buzz makers battling it out. Duchess Catherine sparking an international frenzy as she steps out today, and she`s not just smiling and waving. Wait until you hear what she revealed about the royal baby.
From the royal baby to reality TV history. Will ABC name the first African-American "Bachelorette"? Well, I am going one-on-one with Misee Harris. She is campaigning to make "Bachelorette" history. Who will be our No. 1 buzz maker of the day?
This is SBT, SHOWBIZ TONIGHT, on HLN.
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HALLE BERRY, ACTRESS: Nine-one-one. What`s your emergency?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Please, please. I don`t want to die.
BERRY: What`s your name?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Casey. Please! I`m in the trunk. I`m, like, in the trunk.
BERRY: We are going to find you, OK, honey.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Please promise?
BERRY: We`ve got the best team of people in this whole city working to find you.
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HAMMER: Halle Berry drives the suspense in her new thriller, "The Call." Berry plays a beautiful 911 dispatcher who is desperately trying to save a kidnap victim.
This is one intense film, and it actually hit a little too close to home for Halle, who`s had a 911 scare of her own. SHOWBIZ TONIGHT`s Nischelle Turner spoke with Halle about the film and Halle`s personal drama. Nischelle joining me now from Hollywood.
And I have to believe, Nischelle, that Halle pulled from her own 911 drama for this role. Right?
NISCHELLE TURNER, HLN CORRESPONDENT: Yes, she sure did, A.J. She had a pretty scary, serious scare not too long ago. Her frightening ordeal made headlines, but this is the first time we`re hearing her talk about it publicly. Now, an intruder broke into her house. She called 911 for help and learned a very valuable lesson. Watch what she told me.
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BERRY: I did have to call 911 about a year before I made this movie. I had someone who was attempting to break into my house. And when I called, I told the 911 operator, "I think they`re in my house." And from the time I thought they were in, I couldn`t stop talking.
And the operator said to me, "Ma`am, if they`re in your house, you must be quiet. Stop talking."
And I could not stop talking.
And she kept telling me, "Ma`am, be quiet. Now I need you to be quiet. Be quiet."
And I could not stop talking. So next time if I ever have to call, I know the importance of being quiet and listening to someone.
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TURNER: Absolutely. You know, that`s a real-life drama there. You just don`t know how you`re going to respond until you`re in the middle of it. Fortunately, though, Halle was OK. And the intruder was arrested and charged with trespassing. And you know what? She is on a high alert because of that incident, A.J.
HAMMER: Yes, I have to imagine. She definitely channeled that real-life drama into the film, but I`ve got to wonder if making the film actually kind of made her just a little more scared?
TURNER: Well, you know, like you said, it`s a pretty intense film. And she did say that after she finished, it left her feeling a little bit more vulnerable. And you know, I understand why.
But if you`re up for suspense, I would think check this movie out. It`s called "The Call," and it opens up in theaters on March 15.
HAMMER: All right, Nischelle. Thank you so much.
Well, we move now from Halle`s close call to calls for Justin Bieber to get his act together.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: This is my niece, who`s just -- for her, it was a birthday present, and it`s really badly run. We`ve had to leave early. I feel I`ve let her down, you know. She said it was fine. It was just badly organized. We sat there for an hour and people would boo him.
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HAMMER: Bieber booed. Can it be? Justin Bieber sparking big buzz today over his late arrival in London. But will his concert chaos top big buzz over at "The Bachelorette"? Will ABC name its first African-American "Bachelorette"? I` a talking to a woman who is on a campaign to make "Bachelorette" history. Who will be today`s biggest buzz maker?
Time now for the "SHOWBIZ BUZZ." These are the top five that SHOWBIZ TONIGHT staff is buzzing about today.
"The Client List," starring the lovely Jennifer Love Hewitt, returns to Lifetime TV this Sunday.
Go classic with the latest posthumous album from Jimi Hendrix. It is called, "People, Hell and Angels." It`s out today.
Get your mind going with the Drop Seven app. This is by Zynga. It`s kind of a cross between Tetris and Sudoku.
Now you`re cooking. Paula Deen`s son, Bobby, puts a twist on his mom`s recipe. his new cook book is called "Mama`s Table to Mine."
And this is not your mother`s fairytale, but we are psyched to see the new film "Oz, The Great and Powerful." It`s going to be in theaters on Friday.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Please!
JAMES FRANCO, ACTOR: No. Get off of there.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I promise.
FRANCO: You go on a witch hunt.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Please.
FRANCO: Fine. Fine. You want to come, come. We`ll all go and it will be a big party.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: OK. Let`s go kill ourselves a witch.
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HAMMER: Right now the "SHOWBIZ Countdown," today`s "Biggest Buzz Makers." Kim Kardashian in France. Duchess Catherine out and about today in the U.K. Who`s doing a better job handling the worldwide baby frenzy?
But is that bigger than the frenzy over bad boy Biebs? Rabid Justin Bieber fans in London livid after he showed up late for his own concert.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: This is my niece and this was a birthday present and it is badly run. We are about to leave early. I feel I let her down and she said it is fine. It`s just badly organized, We sat there for an hour. And people are still there.
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HAMMER: Is the 19-year-old taking his bad boy phase too far? And who will stop the SHOWBIZ countdown? SHOWBIZ TONIGHT continues right now.
Welcome back to SHOWBIZ TONIGHT, and thank you for watching. I`m A.J. Hammer and tonight in the SHOWBIZ countdown, today`s big buzz makers. SHOWBIZ TONIGHT is counting down the top three buzz makers are who made some big news today. We kick things off at number three, the battle of the baby bump, the international edition.
SHOWBIZ TONIGHT traveling to England where Duchess Catherine just revealed her baby bump today. In the fishing town of Grimsby on the northeast coast of England, the just five months pregnant duchess wore a brown wrap coat by Hobbes (ph) with a cinched waist as she toured a museum, visited a fire and rescue service, and opened a new school building at a local academy. From England now to Paris, France where Kim Kardashian showed off her growing baby bump at a fashion show for Givenchy wearing a black suit by the designer. Here`s the SHOWBIZ countdown question, who`s causing more of a frenzy, Kim K, or Duchess Catherine?
With me tonight from Hollywood, Kim Serafin senior editor with "InTouch Weekly." Kim, what do you think? There`s a lot of frenzy going on in both cases but who is causing more of one, Kim K, or the duchess.
KIM SERAFIN, SENIOR EDITOR, "IN TOUCH WEEKLY": Both in different ways. Clearly they have different styles and both appeal to a different style of person. I think people are obviously looking at Kim Kardashian because she`s definitely showy and flashy and sexy in a lot of ways. I think people want to emulate her but Kate Middleton, come on. If she wears something, that thing flies off the shelves you can`t find it anywhere. Can`t get it on-line. She in so many ways is such a fashion trend setter. But I think it is your own personal style.
HAMMER: Let`s get another opinion from Nikki Pennie who is also in Hollywood tonight. Nikki has has promised to be impartial even though she knows the duchess very well, she was once her stylist, and Nikki also blogs for the British Bardot.com. Who do you think is causing more of a frenzy really?
NIKKI PENNIE, STYLIST AND FASHION BLOGGER: That`s a big difference. Kim wants to attract a frenzy. Kate is always trying to be low key and demure and under wraps about things. They equally have this massive power over everyone in the world now. It`s insane. You know that --
HAMMER: Go ahead.
PENNIE: Sorry, A.J. You know the jacket that Kate wore this morning from Hommes is already selling out on the internet.
HAMMER: No question about that.
PENNIE: Her effect is crazy.
HAMMER: Here`s my question. We know obviously Duchess Catherine is causing a frenzy over in England, but is Kim K causing any kind of frenzy over there, Nikki?
PENNIE: She is. Actually everyone I know in England is obsessed with "KeepingUup with the Kardashians" as have I, as well. They have become very big internationally but it is a different type of media. It is what I have said to you before, A.J., Kate is royalty. You can`t buy that. Kim and Kanye and the Kimye the baby are attracting any kind of press because that`s their career. That`s what they like to do.
HAMMER: There`s going to be a lot to juggle once these babies are born. Kim, let me ask you this, after the duchess and Kim Kardashian will have their babies who do you think will do a better job of juggling the demands of being in the public eye and also being a first-time mom because it is tough.
SERAFIN: It is. But like you were saying, I mean one situation, Kim Kardashian is there to attract press. That`s her job. Her job is to be in the public eye, to be out this and showing people how she handles being a mother and to show how people how she is pregnant and deals with all of the pressures. Kate, on the other hand, has a different pressure being royalty. She also has a lot of people to help her. I think that will be different but she will do it under wraps and has to live up to the issue of Princess Diana and everything that happened with her and nobody wants to see that happen again. You are dealing with different situations. You are trying to attract and avoid press in some ways.
HAMMER: Yeah, it`s almost hard to know who will have more pressure on them to show they are doing a better job. Nikki, who do you think will juggle the responsibilities better? And you know both sets of moms will have a terrific amount of help for them.
PENNIE: I think we will see late less and less of Kate until the birth this summer, but Kim on the other hand we will see more and more of her until the birth. I think they are both going to juggle it equally in their own ways but I think Kate will be under wraps and I think the royal family will make a very big effort to let her enjoy her pregnancy, you know out of the limelight and only attend the few engagements she really wants to attend. I think we will hardly see any of her. I bet you. Hardly any of her.
HAMMER: It will be controlled I`m certain. One thing Kim has been vocal about is her struggle to dress her baby bump. She is blogging about the jeans she finally feels comfortable wearing Kim, do you think that Kim is somehow going to turn the fashion crisis in to some big bucks for herself? Because that`s what she does.
SERAFIN: In her TV show it is not like a TV show that you watch where the character, where the actress is pregnant but the character is not and they hold big bags in front of her bump. It`s not going to be like that at all. I think she will show off the bump and certainly making a fashion statement. I think people will follow her style for sure and she will be showing it off. Not hiding behind vase or big cooler.
HAMMER: Yeah, Nikki, no question. Both moms here and maybe less directly for Kate. But both moms will mean big bucks for whatever they are wearing as you mentioned before.
PENNIE: Massive bucks. What`s interesting, even though I`m not a massive fan of Kim`s personal style what she is doing for pregnant women is she`s making it incredibly sexy and making it okay for you to let it all be shown and to enjoy pregnancy in that way. Whereas Kate is the opposite. I think actually it`s good both ways and to really enjoy that, enjoy being pregnant and make it cool and fashionable which both are doing.
HAMMER: I think it is inspiring moms all over the world.
Okay, well we move from one international frenzy to another tonight. It is happening also in London. Justin Bieber number two in the SHOWBIZ countdown of today`s biggest buzz makers. The Biebs is back in concert in London tonight after outraging fans last night. He turned up two hours late. Some fans fell asleep and hundreds were stranded because they missed the last train home. SHOWBIZ TONIGHT in London tonight with CNN`s Erin McLaughlin.
ERIN MCLAUGHLIN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Turning up late so rock `n` roll but not when your fans have school the next day. Thousands of parents arrive to fetch their children before Justin Bieber even made it on the stage.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Around us there were about 15 people that left. And a little girl in front of us fell asleep, and her daddy was just like sweetheart (ph) I will take you home now. It`s upsetting to watch somebody that young to come to their hero`s concert and to not even come out. She didn`t even see him perform.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: This is my niece and it`s just, I bought it as a birthday present and it`s really badly run. We had to leave early. I feel I let her down although she said it is fine. It`s just so badly organized. We sat there for an hour and people are still there.
MCLAUGHLIN: Anger spilled on to Twitter with thousands of tweets like this one. From an angry parent calling it disgraceful.
The next day Justin waved to fans outside of his hotel and apologized with tweets of his own, blaming technical issues saying he was only 40 minutes tardy. The pop star is due to play three more nights at the O2 arena. The venue promised to do everything in its power to make sure the 19-year-old makes it on stage at the right time when he plays again.
After all when you are a global teen superstar and your fan base has a strict bedtime, punctuality is important, even if they say they will never let you go.
CNN`s Erin McLaughlin in London for SHOWBIZ TONIGHT and this is comes after Justin Bieber was booted out of a club in London on his 19th birthday because his posse reportedly smelled like they had been smoking pot. Kim Serafin back to you. Does it seem like the Biebs has been acting out trying to show that he can be a bad boy? Is that what you think is going on here?
SERAFIN: You know? No. The concert clearly, I don`t think that he was sitting around doing nothing, waiting for two hours, keeping his fans waiting. Obviously if they had technical issues, not his fault. I think it`s a lot of pressure for someone who is 19. And you know I think back to when I was 19m everyone can think back to that time, we all had instances where we wouldn`t want to be in public dealing with it and he has to. So I say give him a break.
HAMMER: Very quickly Nikk, he has to be on time from here on out. This is a guy the fans come to expect the best from.
PENNIE: Yes, he`s Justin Bieber. At the end of the day if it is technical difficulties, what can he do? It`s not his fault. He`s young. He`s never been this late before. Maybe it is just one up.
HAMMER: We are experiencing technical difficulties beyond our control. Thank you Nikki, thank you Kim. Don`t move, we`ve still got to name today`s number one buzz maker. We will reveal it to you in just a moment.
Now I must talk about zombies, bigger than Jennifer Aniston, "The Walking Dead" scaring up some monster ratings. It has a lot of people in Hollywood wondering if zombies are the new it stars.
People can`t get enough of the undead. That could change TV forever. "Walking Dead" fans you are definitely going to want to see this.
Plus, Candy Crowley has interviewed president, anchored an historic debate but tonight, it`s Candy like you have never seen before. Tonight, it`s Candy getting funky in a really cool and funny viral video. I promise tonight`s moment of awesomeness is worth staying up for.
This is SBT, SHOWBIZ TONIGHT on HLN.
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HAMMER: Welcome back to SHOWBIZ TONIGHT. in the SHOWBIZ countdown, we are counting down the top three buzz makers making big news today. Here`s where we are so far, three, the battle of the baby bumps. Kim Kardashian in France showing off her baby bump and Duchess Catherine visits a fishing village in England showing off hers.
Number two, Justin Bieber`s bad move. Justin`s fans in London furious after he shows up two hours late for his own show.
That takes us to the big reveal of number one on the SHOWBIZ countdown, and you`re looking at her. There she is. 28-year-old Misee Harris who has launched a Facebook campaign to become the first black bachelorette on ABC`s hit reality show. Misee is joining us from Lexington, Kentucky. Great to have you here.
MISEE HARRIS, CAMPAIGNING TO BE BACHELORETTE: Hi. Thank you for having me.
HAMMER: I`m looking at you and don`t think you need a bachelorette show to find a guy but that`s not the only reason you are launching this campaign, is it?
HARRIS: No. I`m a big fan of the show. Over the past 25 seasons I have definitely recognized a void in the amount of diverse people that were represented on the show. So I thought I would be the prefect bachelorette to make a change of that.
HAMMER: Well, let me run it down on how it`s gone so far. "The Bachelorette" has been on eight seasons. Starting with season one, Trista Rehn, through season four and all of the bachelorettes as you see, white. Again from season five, with Jillian Harris, through eight and Emily Maynard, again, all white. Now Misee, are you suggesting in any way that this was intentional on the part of the people casting the show?
HARRIS: I don`t think it was necessarily intentional. I think because there weren`t many minorities on the previous seasons and since they continue to cast someone that was on the previous episode of the bachelor that there is little to no chance for a black woman to be casted as the leading lady to hand out the roses. Until someone has done a campaign such mine I thought it wasn`t going to happen anytime soon.
HAMMER: What are you hearing from people? I assume you`re getting comments on your Facebook page from people who agree or disagree are you hearing from anyone who says what the heck are you doing?
HARRIS: Sure, absolutely. Some people think I`m nuts for doing such a thing, especially since I have a professional career and I`m a dentist. However, a lot of people have been supportive and to be quite honest, until I brought it to light, a lot of people didn`t there hasn`t been a black bachelorette or bachelor in all 25 seasons of the show.
HAMMER: I know you went on a casting call in Ohio for "The Bachelor" last year and were chosen as a contestant but didn`t take it. Why is that?
HARRIE: Because I really thought about it. And number one, first of all, there are a lot of reasons. Number one, I have a real job and I had to come back and take care of that. But then number two I noticed how far would I make it on the show? If you notice this season they did cast four African-American women and Robin, the last African American to show on the show was kicked off on episode five and only one of the black women had a one-on-one date. So overall I`m happy with my decision. Looks like I would have been a goner, as well.
HAMMER: Yeah your patients would have missed you. SHOWBIZ TONIGHT reached out to ABC. They declined to comment but do you think they will give in to your pressure?
HARRIS: I`m not sure. I`m still waiting. No matter what, I still feel like a winner. I got it out there that this is definitely something that needs to be well known. I don`t feel that African-Americans have been portrayed positively on reality television and I was hoping to change that.
HAMMER: We will definitely follow along on your campaign. Thank you for being with us.
HARRIE: Thank you, A.J.
As we move on, are zombies taking over Hollywood? Sure seems that way. "Walking Dead" has a lot of people losing sleep.
Scary, yes but the hit AMC show has people wanting more. Move over Bradley Cooper the new it star in Hollywood could be a zombie. This is SBT SHOWBIZ TONIGHT on HLN.
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HAMMER: I have to say I`m partial to zombies because I was born on Halloween but SHOWBIZ TONIGHT can tell you "The Walking Dead" is keeping TV big wigs up at night. That`s because the hit AMC show could take down the networks by becoming the first number one TV show that`s not on NBC, ABC, Fox, or CBS. People just can`t get enough of the undead and that could change TV forever. SHOWBIX TONIGHT`s Nichelle Turner explains.
NISCHELLE TURNER, HLN CORRESPONDENT: Just like the human hunting zombies they create, there seems to be no stopping AMC`s "The Walking Dead." In the third season on the cable channel, the apocalypse horror series has become a ratings juggernaut making other networks seem like, what, walking dead.
STACEY WILSON, SENIOR WRITER, THE HOLLYWOOD REPORTER: 12.3 million viewers for a basic cable drama series is absolutely unprecedented and I think it will allow AMC to take more risks in the future and have people want to invest more in the programming because the number don`t lie.
TURNER: : According to the "Hollywood Reporter," ratings for the zombie drama surpassed those of award-winning hits like "The Big Bang Theory" and "Modern Family" in the 18 to 49 demographic. A key target for advertisers. "The Walking Dead" is part of a growing trend in the television landscape. More and more viewers migrating to basic cable channels to watch their favorite shows and whether it is "Madmen," "Breaking Bad" or violent blood thirsty zombies, AMC is offering something that a lot of broadcast networks aren`t or in some cases can`t.
WILSON: I think AMC is changing the business, what a cbasic able network can get away with in terms of violence and censors, there`s no way a network would have been able to make "the Walking Dead" in way the fans would most crave it to be created.
TURNER: But, the zombies themselves also deserve credit for "The Walking Dead`s" uprising. Like the vampire craze we`ve seen in recent years with the "Twilight" movies, and HBO`s "True Blood," Zombies seem to be the new it monster in entertainment. Movie audiences can see them this summer chasing down Brad Pitt in "World War Z."
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Don`t be creepy.
TURNER: In a surprise hit, "Warm Bodies," a dark comedy about a zombie takeover has earned more than $85 million at the world wide box office. Star Nicholas Holt has a theory why zombies are hot in pop culture.
NICHOLAS HOLT, ACTOR, "WARM BODIES": It`s a morbid twisted fascination with that sort of thing, and a lot of us are kind of like zombies in many ways. Kind of stumbling through life.
TURNER: And much like the gruesome creatures in "The Walking Dead," interest in zombies just won`t die.
HAMMER: SHOWBIZ TONIGHT`S Nischelle Turner joining me now from Hollywood, I have to say I think that AMC is where HBO was a few years ago when you had "The Sopranos" and "Sex and the City" getting huge ratings and winning all those awards, but do you really think zombies could be the it stars in Hollywood, really?
TURNER: Short answer, yes. What do we know about Hollywood, the bottom line is the bottom line. You heard them say 12.3 million people watch "The Walking Dead," well 7.7 of them were from that 18 to 49 demographic that advertisers love. If they can sell to people watching heck yes. If they are making money they are making news.
HAMMER: They need warm bodies watching the TV.
Thank you so much.
We move now to tonight`s moment of SHOWBIZ awesomeness which comes from a somewhat unlikely source. CNN`s award winning journalist Candy Crowley. She`s interviewed presidents, she anchored an historic debate but tonight it is Candy like you have never seen her before. She is getting funky in a viral video that shows she is as hilarious as she is smart. I promise you will never watch Candy the same way again. This is SBT SHOWBIZ TONIGHT on HLN.
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HAMMER: It is the time for SHOWBIZ awesomeness where we name the most awesome moment of the day. And tonight it comes courtesy of CNN`s Candy Crowley. You know her as host of State of the Union on Sundays but she may be the would`s most awesome music promoter. You have to check out this brilliant viral video from the band Vignette with a little help from the notorious C-A-N-D-Y.
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CANDY CROWLEY, HOST, CNN "STATE OF THE UNION": It is called meatball Lovetone. It is my son`s band Vignette. Not the neurosurgeon, this is the other son, the one that hates politics. So they are about to have an album they are putting out. It has a song in it, "Meatball Lovetone. No, it is not about spaghetti. I have seen them live. They kind of have something.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Candy One minute.
CROWLEY: I got like a minute to air. Okay. Acapella you want me to do this? It goes kind of like this.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: 30 seconds.
CROWLEY: People need it people love it meatballs
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Five, four.
CROWLEY: Meatball lovetone.
Good evening. Tonight`s headline meatball love tone. I`m sorry. The war on drums (ph).
HAMMER: I wish that really happened. Candy Crowley, rockstar journalist and totally rockstar mom. Nice going, Candy.
Coming up next on "Dr. Drew on Call" day 15 of Jodi Arias on the stand and tonight Dr. Drew`s jury returns with their take on the day`s events and that all starts now.
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