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Top Three Jodi Arias Jaw-Droppers; `Amazing Race` Apologizes for Insensitive Location; Countdown of Top 3 Jailhouse Shockers

Aired March 25, 2013 - 23:00   ET

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A.J. HAMMER, HOST: We saw that on "HLN AFTER DARK," that bold accusation, did abuse by Jodi Arias`s boyfriend make her fear for her life on the day that she killed him? Now SHOWBIZ TONIGHT is revealing in the "SHOWBIZ Countdown," the top three "Jodi Jaw-Droppers" caught on tape when police interrogated her.

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JODI ARIAS, MURDER DEFENDANT: This is a really trivial question. It`s going to reveal how shallow I am. But before they book me, can I clear myself up a little bit?

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HAMMER: Singing, crying, asking to get primped up. So which jaw-dropper from the just-revealed Jodi interrogation tapes will be at No. 1 on the "SHOWBIZ Countdown"? SHOWBIZ TONIGHT starts right now.

Hello, I`m A.J. Hammer. Thank you for watching.

And now that "HLN AFTER DARK" just shed new light tonight on the Jodi Arias murder trial, SHOWBIZ TONIGHT is staying up "AFTER DARK" with a provocative "SHOWBIZ Countdown." The top three "Jodi Jaw-Droppers" caught on tape.

So SHOWBIZ TONIGHT producers have been digging through hours and hours of these just-released tapes on her interrogation by police back in July of 2008 after she was arrested. And wait till you see what we found here.

Vinnie Politan, who co-hosts "HLN AFTER DARK," weeknights at 10 p.m. Eastern, is with us tonight from Atlanta. And Jane Velez-Mitchell, who of course, brings you live coverage of the Arias trial weeknights at 7 p.m. Eastern on "THE JANE VELEZ-MITCHELL SHOW," is with me in New York tonight. Thanks for being here, gang.

We`re kick off our "SHOWBIZ Countdown" with our No. 3 "Jodi Jaw-dropper" from the interrogation tapes. What happens after Jodi is told her palm prints were found at the bloody murder scene and what she says after that is just shocking. Let`s watch.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It`s a mixture of yours and his, and that`s your palm print of your left palm.

ARIAS: I don`t have any cuts on my left palm.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Nobody said that the cut was on the palm. Do you have any recent cuts that are healing?

ARIAS: Well, my cat scratches me, little things. These are all her work. You can see. This is her. That`s her. I`ve got scars. She`s a feral cat.

GRAPHIC: One minute 45 seconds later...

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: There`s no anyone else could have let your palm print in blood on that wall. No way. Get that through your head.

ARIAS: If I was going to ever try to kill somebody, I would use gloves. I have plenty of them.

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HAMMER: OK. First of all, that`s just bone-chilling to hear. But Vinnie, what does it say to you that, after Jodi claims the blood came from her cat scratching her, one minute 45 seconds later, she says if she wanted to kill someone, she`d at least use gloves.

VINNIE POLITAN, HOST, "HLN AFTER DARK": This is what Jodi Arias does. She adapts her story to the facts, the facts she can`t get around, trying to come up with an explanation.

The biggest problem she has is that she had one plan, that plan starts to unravel because of the evidence that she didn`t know about, the evidence that she left behind, and that bloody palm print puts her at the scene at the time of the killing.

HAMMER: Jane, to Vinnie`s point, doesn`t it seem that, if Jodi wanted to say something different, I mean, she was just there grasping to come up with some kind of a plausible theory to throw at the wall and see if it sticks. But she couldn`t grab anything that made any sense.

JANE VELEZ-MITCHELL, HOST, "JANE VELEZ-MITCHELL": Well, either she has cat scratch fever or she`s a pathological liar suffering from pathological liar syndrome, which is throughout their lives, they just lie, lie, lie. And because it`s about trivial matters, people accept it, and they seem to get away with it. So they become emboldened. And then they get into their head that they can lie about really crucial things, life and death things.

And that`s when they hit the wall. And you are watching a pathological liar hit the wall in this conversation with this detective.

HAMMER: And it is wild to hear the interrogator need to point out to Jodi that "Nobody else could have left your bloody palm print there." I mean, just the -- seems obvious, doesn`t it?

But we found so many more eye-opening revelations as we were digging through these hours of interrogation tapes. And this takes us to the No. 2 "Jodi Jaw-Dropper" on the "SHOWBIZ Countdown."

It`s Jodi`s bizarre behavior that was caught on tape when the interrogator leaves the room after questioning her for nearly an hour. Now, we`ve already seen some of that: Jodi singing to herself and doing a head stand there. But now you have to see what came before that, and after that, as Jodi was alone in the room. You`ve got to watch this.

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ARIAS: You could have at least put on your makeup Jodi, gosh.

(singing): I didn`t hear you breathe. I wonder how am I still here. (UNINTELLIGIBLE) it might change my memory.

GRAPHIC: Approximately 3 minutes later...

ARIAS:

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HAMMER: OK, now she wipes away those tears. She sings that Dido song and then, as we saw three minutes later, she does this headstand. She certainly seems calm, cool and collected, Vinnie.

And I do understand that doing headstands and yoga poses, as I`m wont to do when I`m stressed out, can calm you, but wouldn`t most people be freaking out? You were a prosecutor once. I mean, what does that say to you about her demeanor here?

POLITAN: She`s dangerous. She`s absolutely dangerous. And that`s why I think this trial is so important, and the top charge is so important. First-degree murder, whether you believe in the death penalty or not, it`s life in prison or it`s death. Either way she doesn`t get out.

Second-degree murder, she gets out in her early 40s, A.J. And just look at her demeanor, the way she acts and reacts. From my perspective, that`s where I see danger.

HAMMER: Jane, is that how you see it, as well?

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Oh, yes, she`s a very dangerous person. She may be standing on her head, thinking, "Let me spin this, possibly, for an insanity defense, in case I need it down the road."

I also want to point out that the song she was singing, I happen to love Dido, but I was told by somebody that that has become sort of a stalker anthem.

HAMMER: Yes.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Not that they intended it to be. But if you listen to the words, it`s about somebody obsessed. Is this all part of her obsession with Travis Alexander?

HAMMER: Well, today was day 37 of the trial. And we watched all the live testimony from the courtroom right here on HLN, as we do every day, of course. And in a few weeks, of course, we will learn if Jodi Arias is found guilty. That takes us to No. 1 on our countdown today of jaw- droppers on the interrogation tapes of Jodi Arias. Jodi talking about what if she pled guilty. Let`s watch.

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ARIAS: If I pled guilty, what happens?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You`d have to pay the price.

ARIAS: What`s the price?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I don`t know.

ARIAS: Don`t you know what the sentences are that are carried for something?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It depends on your situation, how old you are. It depends on the type of crime. It depends on whether you show remorse or not. And part of that remorse is at least coming clean. When somebody doesn`t come clean, I don`t see any remorse. I don`t know if the judge would see any remorse. I don`t know if the jury would see any remorse.

GRAPHIC: Fifty-one seconds later...

ARIAS: If I did that, I would -- I would be fully ready to face the consequences. I`m not really for things like, you know -- I`m all for the Ten Commandments, thou shalt not kill.

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HAMMER: OK. And first of all, this is just stunning to hear against the context of what we now know of her to be saying. But you heard it right there: she said she`s all for the Ten Commandments. Thou shalt not kill, Vinnie. Seems to proclaim her innocence right there. Doesn`t it seem baffling that she would even be asking what would happen if she did plead guilty?

POLITAN: Yes. I just want the record to be clear that I`m all for the Ten Commandments, as well. OK? Bottom line.

HAMMER: Got you down.

POLITAN: This is, again, looking at who she is, and is there some level of consciousness of guilt, because she`s caught by the evidence, and now she`s sort of fishing.

The other thing that`s at play here, though, is I think she`s so used to being alone in a room with a man and being able to control the situation, and here she can`t. She`s throwing out the feelers, trying to see if he`ll bite. But the Detective Flores is not biting. And this is -- this is unchartered water for this young woman.

HAMMER: Yes. Clearly, she`s in a situation; she doesn`t know what to do. She`s grasping at anything as we`ve been discussing, and it really is interesting how wildly things changed after that interrogation. Really fascinating. Great to have your insight, Vinnie. Jane, as well. Thank you both so much.

And make sure you catch up with the very latest on the Jodi Arias trial with HLN`s newest hit show, "HLN AFTER DARK: THE JODI ARIAS TRIAL," airing Monday through Thursday. It`s on at 10 p.m. Eastern right here on HLN.

And we have got you covered with more celebrity true crime stories tonight. Yet another blockbuster "SHOWBIZ Countdown" is coming your way. Today`s top three "Jailhouse Shockers."

Wait till you hear confessions from behind bars by the men who hatched a very disturbing plot to decapitate the British singer Joss Stone. There are new reports tonight that Beyonce and Eminem may also have been targets. Correspondent Max Foster is in London for SHOWBIZ TONIGHT. He`s going to bring you the very latest on the startling story. You will not want to miss it. But will that top the "SHOWBIZ Countdown" of the top three "Jailhouse Shockers" tonight?

Plus, the outrageous ad that has the Kardashian sisters bound, gagged and trapped in a car trunk. And exactly how is Paris Hilton involved in all this? It`s one of the head-scratching things that has us saying, "That`s Ridiculous."

This is SBT, SHOWBIZ TONIGHT, on HLN.

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EMILY TORRES, HIGH SCHOOL STUDENT (singing): And Bruno, go to prom with me. A junior prom with me.

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HAMMER: Tonight, a "SHOWBIZ Exclusive." The teenager who invited Bruno Mars to her junior prom with that viral video, finally goes to the prom, and only SHOWBIZ TONIGHT is revealing the details.

SHOWBIZ TONIGHT has been with 16-year-old Emily Torres since the start of her Bruno Mars mission. It all started when she made that video asking Bruno to be her prom date. Well, he couldn`t make it, but he did buy her an incredible $4,500 Gucci dress. Look at her. She`s getting it on Rodeo Drive in Beverly Hills right there. This weekend she got to wear the dress.

Emily is right here tonight, joining us for this "SHOWBIZ Exclusive" from her hometown in Michigan.

Hey there, Emily. Oh, look at you, she`s got the post-prom glow. Fantastic. You look terrific. And I want to show now to everybody the pictures of you from your prom. Wow! Look at that. You in the dress, and pretty amazing.

Now, I want to see, do we have a picture of her with somebody. Apparently, there`s Bruno. What`s up there? I thought Bruno wasn`t able to go with you. How did you work that out?

TORRES: Well, I`ve got him with me. We just taped it to this board, you know.

HAMMER: He`s lost a lot of weight there. OK, so that was pretty cute. You took the cutout of Bruno to the prom with you. How did that go over? Was that a hit? Was everybody asking to dance with Bruno? How did that work out?

TORRES: Actually, we got to go in this big circle and one of my friends, like, ran around with the circle with the cutout, and like they played "Go to Heaven." So it was really funny.

HAMMER: That`s a fun, fun idea. And I have to say -- and if we could put up the picture again, Charles -- you look stunning in this Gucci dress.

TORRES: Thank you.

HAMMER: I mean, you look like a model here at your prom.

TORRES: Thank you.

HAMMER: I have to imagine you felt like the queen of the prom, even if you weren`t actually the queen of the prom.

TORRES: Oh, you know. No, no, it was fun, you know. I didn`t want it to be all about me, because it was other people`s junior prom, so -- but it was fun.

HAMMER: Tell me how that worked out. Because obviously, you`ve been getting so much attention, and people wanted to see you and hear the reaction. But was it able to be a, shall we say, balanced prom? Because I was feeling with you a little bit with all the attention at the same time.

TORRES: Yes, it was great. Like, you know, people did stare, but I was like, you know, but it was cool, yes. I actually had the best time of my life.

HAMMER: Well, the cool thing through this whole journey, among the many cool things, is you got to meet Bruno on "The Ellen DeGeneres Show," and with that Gucci dress that he bought you. And I understand and was so pleased to hear this. You want to pay your kindness forward. So what`s your big plan for the dress?

TORRES: Yes. There`s a local kid here. His name is Colin Vani, and he has cancer. And it`s called clear cell sarcoma cancer. He actually had to have, like, a kidney removed and stuff. And I wanted to end this story on something, like, positive and nice and not only tie both of our stories together, but like just, you know, keep it positive. Yes, it`s on Ebay, the dress is on Ebay and you can bid on it. And we`re going to give all the money to him and his family.

HAMMER: That makes me so, so happy. I can`t congratulate you enough. And I think you`re doing exactly the right thing with your fame, and I want to know if you`re going to continue your fame by getting somebody for your senior prom, some other big star. Who`s that going to be?

TORRES: Maybe Bruno will actually go to the senior prom.

HAMMER: OK. We`ll have to stay in touch. And now at least he certainly knows who you are. Well, thanks again for bringing your story to SHOWBIZ TONIGHT. Everybody has really enjoyed it, Emily. Great seeing you.

TORRES: Thank you so much, A.J. I want to meet you next.

HAMMER: Well, switching gears now to another not-to-be-missed "SHOWBIZ Countdown." Today`s top three "Jailhouse Shockers." And the stunners just keep on coming from those newly-released Jodi Arias interrogation tapes.

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ARIAS: Travis has done a lot for me, and I wouldn`t hurt him. He introduced the gospel to me.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I have proof that says otherwise, Jodi.

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HAMMER: It`s wild. But will Jodi`s bizarre antics top the frightening confessions by the men who had a plan to decapitate Joss Stone? Wait till you hear these brand-new reports that Beyonce and Eminem may also have been targets. SHOWBIZ on location tonight in London with correspondent Max Foster, bringing you all of the disturbing details.

Plus, is Ryan Seacrest being replaced on "American Idol"?

This is SBT, SHOWBIZ TONIGHT, on HLN.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Here?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Wait, wait, wait. Oh, there.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This is a "Double U-turn," where two teams have the opportunity to slow down two other teams, forcing them to perform both sides of the detour.

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HAMMER: Tonight in "SHOWBIZ Quick Hits," an amazing mistake. For 22 seasons, "The Amazing Race" has taken us on breathless adventures around the world, including this one in Vietnam. But tonight, the show is apologizing after a clue in the game was staged right next door to a memorial that`s dedicated to the destruction of U.S. B-52 bomber during the Vietnam War. "The Amazing Race" tops our "Quick Hits" on big news breaking down.

Kim Serafin is a senior editor of "InTouch Weekly." She`s with me tonight from Hollywood.

So Kim, it wasn`t just the veterans who were offended here. A lot of long- time fans of "The Amazing Race" were blasting CBS after this episode aired. And last night the show actually began with this apology.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We want to apologize to veterans, particularly those who served in Vietnam, as well as to their families and any viewers who were offended by the broadcast.

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HAMMER: Well, today the American Legion and the Veterans of Foreign Wars accepted that apology. Kim, I have to say for such a smart, classy show, I was surprised. I want to know if you were just amazed that nobody thought, "You know what? This might be a bad idea"? Give me your thoughts in 30 seconds or less. Let`s start that clock.

KIM SERAFIN, EDITOR, "INTOUCH WEEKLY": Yes, I think it was. For a show that`s won nine Emmy awards, that stays away from that kind of controversy, very surprising they did that.

But really amazing that they apologized to primetime. They didn`t just put out a statement; they did this in primetime, so everyone who watches the show can see it. And I think that was great. And great that people are accepting it. Even John McCain tweeted, "Everyone makes mistakes. The issue is closed." So great that they did this but definitely a show that doesn`t really get into these controversial things, so surprising that nobody picked up on this before it actually aired.

HAMMER: yes. They did react properly, and I have to say, I think they`ll be looking at their next sort of scenarios a lot more closely.

Our next "SHOWBIZ Quick Hit," another possible reality revolt. There`s a report today that "American Idol" producers are so worried about their slipping ratings that they might give host Ryan Seacrest the boot. Now Mariah Carey and Nicki Minaj are not bringing in the fireworks or really the blockbuster ratings that the show was hoping for, Kim, but would replacing Ryan really be the way to shake things up? Give me your take in 30.

SERAFIN: First of all, every season that "American Idol" is on, people say, "Oh, this is the last season of `American Idol.` It`s on its way out." It`s not. It`s never on its way out. Also, it`s never going to be the powerhouse it once was, because there`s so many other reality-show singing competitions these days.

However, you know the "American Idol" contestants. These are the ones you remember. These are the ones who have the songs that are performed on the Olympics, even if it`s not Carrie Underwood any more. So I don`t think eliminating Ryan is the way to go. Maybe changing up the show a little bit: Jimmy Iovine is now kind of being the new Simon, being very direct and straightforward. Maybe eliminating one judge, back to three judges.

HAMMER: I have to say, you know, the host, I mean, Ryan, obviously, has been with the show from the start. Putting somebody else in there not going to boost the ratings.

SERAFIN: No. Not going to help.

HAMMER: All right. Kim Serafin, thanks so much.

And you should pick up the latest "InTouch Weekly" wherever magazines are sold.

Tonight, we have two outlandish star stories that made us say, "That`s Ridiculous." You`ve got to check out this shocking ad. It`s got the Kardashian sisters bound and gagged in the trunk of a car, and it gets even more freaky. Paris Hilton is also involved.

Plus, Oscar-winner Tilda Swinton`s latest performance: sleeping in a box in one of the most famous museums in the world. You have got to see this.

This is SBT, SHOWBIZ TONIGHT, on HLN.

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ARIAS: Travis has done a lot for me, and I wouldn`t hurt him. He introduced the gospel to me.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Well, I have proof that says otherwise.

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HAMMER: Right now, the "SHOWBIZ Countdown," today`s top three "Jailhouse Shockers," including that shocker from the stunning brand-new tapes from the Jodi Arias interrogations. Plus, the nearly unbelievable new jailhouse shocker revealed today from the man accused of plotting to kill singer Joss Stone and cut her head off. Were they also targeting Beyonce and Eminem? SHOWBIZ TONIGHT is in London with CNN`s Max Foster with the brand-new disturbing revelations for the absolutely very latest on the celebrity plot that just won`t stop.

And why in the world are the Kardashian sisters bound and gagged in this ad for Ford? What the heck does Paris Hilton have to do with it? SHOWBIZ TONIGHT continues right now.

Welcome back to SHOWBIZ TONIGHT. And thank you for watching. I`m A.J. Hammer and tonight on the SHOWBIZ Countdown, we`ve got the top three jailhouse shockers revealed today. Claims made by some infamous criminals, suspected criminals and locked up criminals that are so shocking, we actually had to look twice to make sure that we heard them right. We`re kicking off our countdown with the number three jailhouse shocker tonight, the brand new, just revealed video of Jodi Arias in a California jailhouse being interrogated by police just after being arrested for allegedly killing her boyfriend Travis Alexander back in July of 2008. Now, SHOWBIZ TONIGHT has been very busy digging through hours of these just released tapes where Jodi not only denies killing Travis, she says she wasn`t even in Arizona when he was killed. But here`s what really shocked us. Jodi telling the detective, I didn`t kill Travis, but I feel kind of responsible for his death. Watch as the surprised detective asks Jodi what the heck are you talking about?

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: How was your being there going to prevent him from being killed?

JODI ARIAS: Well, I kind of feel that if I had gone, that we could have been out watching a movie or we could have - two people could have done something more than just him. I just feel like if -- if there is some way that I could have prevented it or some way that I could have done something to stop it. And I told that to a few people and they`re like, well, you might have been killed to. Maybe, but maybe Travis would still be alive. Travis has done a lot for me, and I wouldn`t hurt him. He introduced the gospel to me.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Well, I have proof that says otherwise, Jodi.

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HAMMER: Well, that detective clearly not buying what Jodi was saying. With me tonight, CNN legal analyst and former federal prosecutor Sunny Hostin in New York. And Sunny, you watch this and it seems to me that the jailhouse tape really just serves to underscore the fact that it appears no one is buying what Jodi is claiming.

SUNNY HOSTIN, CNN LEGAL ANALYST: Exactly. But you know what I`ve got to tell you, A.J., what is shocking to me is she`s being interrogated in an interrogation room with a police officer, and she`s spinning these lies so effortlessly, and it sounds a lot like what she sounds like on the witness stand, the same cadence, the same voice. Just the same body movements. And I`ve got to think, my goodness, a jury hearing something like that, you lie to the cops in the same way, same format, everything, that you`re - in the way that you`re speaking on the witness stand. What can you believe? This tape, in my opinion, is probably some of the best evidence for the prosecution.

HAMMER: Yes, I mean to that point, after the interrogation, we all know Jodi went on to change her story two more times about what happened. But some of this video was played in court. So does it just seem natural to you that yes, the jury might simply see this as evidence that Jodi is an elaborate liar and there`s no reason they should believe anything she says?

HOSTIN: Oh, no question about it. I`m actually still surprised that the jury has asked so many questions.

HAMMER: Right.

HOSTIN: You know, hundreds of questions. And just letting her speak on and on and on. Having seen that video, I think the jury is trying to figure out what can we believe, if anything? Because again, it was so convincing. I wouldn`t do anything to Travis. He taught me the Bible.

HAMMER: Yes.

HOSTIN: He taught me the gospel. I mean, it`s so crazy that it`s almost hard to make sense of it. I`ve always said, A.J., you can`t make sense of crazy ...

HAMMER: Right.

HOSTIN: ... but in this instance, my goodness.

HAMMER: Well, and it`s going to be very interesting if and when, any jurors do speak sometime from now to find out exactly why did you asked so many questions ...

HOSTIN: Yeah.

HAMMER: ... given the fact that wasn`t it pretty obvious she lying from the start. Sunny, great insight as always. Thank you so much.

HOSTIN: Thanks, A.J.

HAMMER: So, the jailhouse shockers just kept on coming today. That takes us to number two on our SHOWBIZ Countdown. This comes from someone who`s already been convicted - Jerry Sandusky. We heard the former Penn State assistant coach speak out today for the first time since being sentenced 30 to 60 years for child sexual abuse. Clips from an interview done with Sandusky from prison for a movie that`s being made about Penn State legend Joe Paterno. It will play this morning on "The Today" show. Sandusky again claims he`s innocent and he also addressed the most damning evidence against him, the graduate assistant who testified that he walked in on Sandusky having sex with a boy in a locker room shower. Well, today we heard Sandusky say the graduate assistant, Mike McQueary has it all wrong.

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JERRY SANDUSKY: I don`t understand how anybody would have walked into that locker room from where he was and heard sounds associated that was sex going on. You know, like he said that could`ve been. I mean there was - that would have been the last thing I would have thought about. I would have thought maybe fooling around or something like that.

(LAUGHTER).

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HAMMER: Well, Sarah Ganim exposed the Penn State sex abuse scandal as a reporter for "The Patriot News" in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania. As a result, she became one of the youngest people ever to win a Pulitzer Prize. And Sarah`s now a CNN correspondent, joining me tonight from Miami. Great having you here, Sarah.

SARAH GANIM, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Great to see you, A.J.

HAMMER: So, Sandusky is saying, even though he was alone with a ten-year old boy in a locker room shower after hours, somehow McQueary just got the wrong idea. And Sarah, you know this story better than anyone. Does it just seem absurd to you?

GANIM: here is what I can tell you, A.J. I sat through that trial, gavel to gavel. I saw that testimony. I saw MikeMcQueary testify and I saw the testimony of many other men who say they were abused or saw abuse by Jerry Sandusky. And the jury weighed that testimony and found it to be credible. They convicted Jerry Sandusky of doing something inappropriate in that shower, of touching that boy inappropriately. So you have to consider the source and where this is coming from. It`s coming from a convicted pedophile who is behind bars and is trying to appeal.

HAMMER: Yes, and just saying whatever he can to maintain his innocence at this point. But the last time that he spoke, it was in that extremely damaging interview that he did with Bob Costas. We all remember, he actually had trouble answering the question, are you sexually attracted to young boys? Now, Sara, Sandusky, as you mention, is trying to appeal his sentence. Why on earth do you think that he would risk speaking out again this time from jail? It seems like a bad idea to me.

GANIM: I don`t know. I can`t answer that question for you, A.J., because I haven`t spoken to Jerry Sandusky. But I can tell you this, he has been vocal through this whole process. It`s been a year and a half since he was first arrested and he talks a lot, a lot more than just that Bob Costas interview. Shortly after that, he talked to "The New York Times" and he did several kind of impromptu interviews on the way into the court house for various hearings, even for his trial he would often stop on the road (ph) point and talk to the press and he also took to the podium a few times. So he`s been very vocal this whole time in all of those interviews. His main point is that he claims that he`s innocent. So I`m not really surprised that he would speak again.

HAMMER: OK, so not surprising, it doesn`t seem like he`s doing himself any favors from where we sit. But I really love hearing from you on this, because as I said, nobody knows this case better than you, Sarah. Sarah Ganim, thank you so much.

GANIM: Absolutely.

HAMMER: All right, I have to tell you that out of all of the jailhouse shockers we learned about today, nothing tops that we`re about to tell you. It is number one on our SHOWBIZ Countdown. Were the two men on trial for allegedly plotting to kill singer Joss Stone and decapitate her also planning to go after other stars, including Beyonce? This is one of the stunning possibilities that emerged today in the trial of the men in England. They were arrested near Joss Stone`s home in 2011. Police said that they had a samurai sword, a lock knife and a hammer and they planned to decapitate the singer. That is just terrible.

Now the names of some other stars like Beyonce, R. Kelly and Eminem have come up in the trial. The question is, were they targeted as well? SHOWBIZ TONIGHT going straight to London tonight. We want to get answers. That`s why we have CNN`s Max Foster with us in London. Max, what can you tell us about Beyonce, R. Kelly and Eminem, all being brought up at this trial?

MAX FOSTER, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, the defendants, as you say, there was - this arsenal of weapons found in the car, but then police searched the flats and in one of the defendant`s flats they found some notebooks. In one of those notebooks, effectively a hit list, numbered one, two, three. And these lists were - well, number one was Rob. Number two was Wet, and number three was death. Wet is an urban slang that means repeatedly stab someone until their clothes are soaked with blood. So, three column and names under those columns, and included in them, yes, so, Beyonce, Eminem, Chris Brown, R. Kelly, Girls Aloud, a British band. So they obviously had a problem, according to the prosecution with a whole list of celebrities, including Joss Stone.

HAMMER: Well, how frightening. The two men on trial deny plotting to kill Joss Stone and today in court we heard one of the suspects making a shocking denial. What did he say, Max?

FOSTER: Well, one of them said, Bradshaw said that he`d never heard of Joss Stone. And actually he was just down in this area southwest in England on a day trip. It was put to him that this day trip started at 2:00 A.M. in the morning, they traveled 200 miles at 2 A.M. in the morning to near Joss Stone`s home. But we also learned some background here. There was a clinical psychologist in the courtroom talking about Bradshaw saying, he has been treated for schizophrenia, he`s got big gaps in his memory, a very, very low I.Q., A. J, someone argues he`s got learning difficulties. So, there are gaps in his memory, which seems to match with the fact that he doesn`t seem to know anything about this trip. But it is getting more complex now.

HAMMER: And if anybody ever at all wonders why so many celebrities have these huge entourages with enormous bodyguards, this is one of the many reasons why. Max Foster, thank you so much for joining us from London tonight.

And another shocker for you tonight, I want you to take a look at this. It`s a shocking ad with the Kardashian sisters bound and gagged in a trunk. What the heck does Paris Hilton have to do with this? It has us saying that`s ridiculous.

And this is, it is so ridiculously cute, it`s the blind Siberian husky with his own guide dog. I`m not kidding you. You got a dog with a seeing eye dog. And it is your SHOWBIZ "Moments of Awesomeness." This is SBT, SHOWBIZ TONIGHT on HLN.

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HAMMER: Now, that`s ridiculous. Paris Hilton kidnapping the Kardashian sisters and they`re bound and gagged and put in a trunk. What the heck is this all about? That ridiculous ad is just one of the big breaking stories today that made us say that`s ridiculous. Tonight, Ford India is apologizing for the leaked ad that features Paris Hilton and the Kardashians saying, just saying never should have been created and it never should have been released. The cartoon mockup was supposedly created to show off trunk space in one of Ford`s cars. But now the ad has been yanked. So, we have to ask, what the heck were they thinking? With me tonight from Hollywood, I`m so pleased to have Bill Rancic here. He is working on a new nationwide campaign, it`s called Healthing (ph), to get America`s families cleaning healthier. Which I think is a great idea, Bill. It`s always good to see you, my friend.

BILL RANCIC: It`s great to see you. How are you?

HAMMER: I`m terrific. Now, look, you`re a successful entrepreneur, you`re a very smart businessman. You were the first person Donald Trump hired for winning "The Apprentice" in that first season of the show. Was this in your mind one of the dumbest business decisions ever to come up with an ad like this?

RANCIC: Well, you know, I don`t think it was ever intended for our eyes, and I think someone who leaked that out is in a lot of hot water today. But I think at the end of the day, it`s showing, you know, that there is a rift between Paris Hilton and the Kardashian sisters. And I think that`s probably what they are playing on. But certainly, probably not the best business move and the best business decision for someone in that ad department in Ford.

HAMMER: Well, yeah, even if somebody in that creative department was thinking, maybe I`ll propose this, I mean what would make them think bounding and gagging the Kardashians in a trunk to show off it has a lot of space in that trunk would make anybody say, oh, you know what? I`m going to have to go and buy that? But does it make it evident to us, Bill, that the Kardashians are just fair game in really any scenario?

RANCIC: You know, I think they all have pretty thick skin and you know what - they`re all their own brands. They`re making a lot of money doing what they`re doing. They`ve got one of the top shows on E! And I think at the end of the day that comes with the territory. I mean that`s part of the job. And at the end of the day, they`re laughing all the way to the bank. So, I don`t think they`re that upset by this, and I think we`re talking about them.

HAMMER: There you go.

RANCIC: And that`s - that`s the name of the game in this business.

HAMMER: Well, Bill, I know you`re a cultured man. You enjoy museum from time to time, right?

RANCIC: I sure do.

HAMMER: All right. If you thought that whole trunk story was ridiculous, I want you to get a load of this. This is Oscar winner Tilda Swinton. And now we get to see Oscar - Tilda - Oscar winner Tilda Swinton sleeping in a glass box in New York at the Museum of Modern Art for seven hours a day as part of this new exhibit. She`s not talking, she`s not acting, she`s not even posing for pictures. It`s just Tilda in a box. And she gets in there when she decided she wants to take a nap. Bill, let`s face it, it isn`t every day that you get to see an Oscar winner sleeping in a box. So, are you loving it or is it just ridiculous to you?

RANCIC: You know, personally I wouldn`t pay money to go see her sleeping in a box. But, you know, art is in the eye of the beholder. And apparently a lot of people are lined up to see it. So, it`s, you know, for some, it`s art. For me, it`s a woman sleeping in a box.

HAMMER: I love Tilda Swinton. I may just go down to museum and check it out. It`s one of my favorite museums in New York. So, you and your lovely wife, Giuliana Rancic, who you know I adore, have some big news in your own lives, at least recently, becoming new parents after a long time trying. After settling into parenthood, Giuliana told "Us Weekly" magazine that the secret to a happy marriage was in part "we put our marriage first and our child second because the best thing we can do for him is have a strong marriage." Now, to me, that makes perfect sense, if you pay attention to what she is actually saying. But I know Giuliana ...

RANCIC: Exactly.

HAMMER: ... received a lot of backlash for that. Have things calmed down?

RANCIC: You know, I think there was a lot of backlash early on. But after about 48 hours, people were saying exactly what you were saying. You know, once I read it a little closer and actually looked at what she was saying, it makes sense. Because if you don`t have a healthy home, and a solid environment for that child to grow up in, what good are you doing that child?

HAMMER: Yeah.

RANCIC: And that`s what was meant by that. It`s, you know, the more couples we talk to who have successful marriages, that`s how they`ve done it. You know, we wrote a book and we interviewed a lot of couples who had been married 50, 60 years and that was one of the piece of an advice that they are giving us. And it`s very good advice, in my opinion.

HAMMER: Well, do us a favor, give your wife and your child a nice loving squeeze from us here at SHOWBIZ TONIGHT. It`s great to see you, Bill.

RANCIC: Yeah, you, as well. Thank you.

HAMMER: Moving on to the bad ass guys from the football field who are going all Hollywood. This is the NFL boot camp Hollywood style. And SHOWBIZ TONIGHT is revealing why a pro football player just might be the next Steven Spielberg. I`m telling you, you have got to see what the heck is going on.

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HAMMER: And now football goes Hollywood. All right, I know you`re used to football players being perhaps the least glamorous guys around, right? Well, the gridiron is certainly all bout grits and not glitz. But there is a brand new boot camp that may mean the next Steven Spielberg is going to come from the football field, not from film school. SHOWBIZ TONIGHT Nischelle Turner reveals this brand new kind of football frenzy.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: One (ph), two, marker.

NISCHELLE TURNER, CNN CORRESPONDENT: It has all the makings of a typical Hollywood movie set.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: All hail Caesar! All hail Caesar!

TURNER: But the jumbo size actors you see here aren`t trained thespians, they`re actually current and former football players.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Action!

TURNER: Welcome to the NFL`s Hollywood boot camp, where gridiron stars endure a four-day crash course in all aspects of film making, like writing, directing, editing, and of course, acting.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What are you doing here, lurking in the shadows?

TURNER: This production is a comedic take on "Julius Caesar," a concept the group pieced together in one day, here at Universal Studios. So instead of strapping on shoulder pads and helmets, former players Corey Mays and Terrelle Smith are wearing Roman robes.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You stabbed me. I nearly soiled myself.

TURNER: And free agent wide receiver Ramses Barden is donning a Roman laurel as Caesar.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No, darling you (inaudible) me.

TURNER (on camera): Did you just hear about it and say this sounds interesting?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Well, they showed us a series of videos as far as off- season programs we can get involved in, and a lot of them looked interesting. And this looked like it will be the biggest challenge to me and the most fun.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: So, they have a music boot camp, they have a broadcast boot camp, culinary, hospitality, coaching. The choice is for you. But, you know, they`re definitely doing a lot, bringing a lot more to the table.

TURNER (voice over): The boot camp was established in 2012 by the NFL and Film Life CEO Jeff Friday to give players options after their football career. Which according to ESPN lasts an average of just 3 1/2 years. The NFL says that number is around six years, but either way, the players need to consider life after football.

(on camera): They need plan B, is that something also that you kind of talk about, like think about what second career is going to be?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Absolutely. And beyond the stats, these guys retire at 30. And anyone beyond 30 realizes there`s a lot of life after 30 years old. So it`s really about two things, you know. About yes, the economics of it all, but it really about giving each of them an opportunity to be successful as adults. Because football really is a kid`s game.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: From the top, from the top.

TURNER (voice over): And just like in training camp, these rookies need coaching. Hollywood veteran Robert Townsend is up to the task.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And these guys really have the skills set in, they understand it on a whole another level, because like I said, to survive training camp when your neck is on the line and there`s four seconds in the game, and you`ve got to make the flag, it`s the same thing in Hollywood.

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HAMMER: That is so cool. Can you see Tom Brady heading to Hollywood after he leaves the Patriots? You never know.

Well, now on to something you`re definitely going to love. I`d love you to meet Isaac, the blind Siberian husky with his own seeing eye dog. Yeah, that`s right, the dog with the guide dog. Our SHOWBIZ "Moment of Awesomeness" that is just too darn cute not to watch. This is SBT, SHOWBIZ TONIGHT on HLN.

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HAMMER: It is time for SHOWBIZ Awesomeness where we name the most awesome moment of the day. And tonight, I`m so pleased to introduce to Isaac and Isabella. Isaac is the big guy you see here. He is a blind husky, and his little terrier friend there is Isabella, who guides him around. Yes, she`s a guide dog for another dog. Right now, Isaac is in California animal hospital, and everywhere Isaac goes, Isabella makes sure that he`s OK. This is just amazing to me. Watch what one of the workers at the animal hospital says about this incredible canine relationship.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It`s just really remarkable how she`s always trying to be aware of where Isaac`s at, and, you know, if he`s not right behind her, she`ll stop and wait for him to catch up with her. It`s really - really funny.

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HAMMER: This is the stuff that makes me cry. Both of those adorable dogs were going to be put down before being rescued by non-profit animal foundation. Now the foundation is trying to raise money for Isaac`s medical bills and is working on trying to find a permanent home for both of them. Well, coming up next, on "Dr. Drew on Call", Dr. Drew with exclusive chilling new audio of Travis Alexander. You`ll hear one of the last recordings of Jodi Arias`s ex-boyfriend before he died. "Dr. Drew" starts right now.

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