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Did Jodi Arias Plan to Become Famous?; Could Casey Anthony Lose Rights to Life Story?; Beyonce, Jay-Z Facing Congressional Investigation; Trump, Wife Sound off on Latest Apprentice Cut; Who`s Best TV Mom Ever?; Battle of the Baby Bumps; What Table Manners
Aired April 09, 2013 - 23:00 ET
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A.J. HAMMER, HOST: We saw tonight on "HLN AFTER DARK" that "Bold Accusation," Jodi Arias planned the killing. Now SHOWBIZ TONIGHT dares to ask: Was Jodi Arias actually preparing for fame? Well, we have today her wild plan to get famous. It`s a "SHOWBIZ Countdown," today`s "SHOWBIZ Justice Shockers."
Plus, a Halle Berry exclusive. You`ve got to see this. She`s talking for the first time about expecting baby No. 2.
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HALLE BERRY, ACTRESS: I feel fantastic. This has been the biggest surprise of my life, to tell you the truth.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Really?
BERRY: I thought I was kind of past the point where this could be a reality for me.
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HAMMER: SHOWBIZ TONIGHT starts right now.
Hello, I`m A.J. Hammer. Thank you for watching.
And now that "HLN AFTER DARK" has debated the "Bold Accusation" Jodi Arias planned to kill her boyfriend, Travis Alexander, SHOWBIZ TONIGHT is bringing you an explosive "SHOWBIZ Countdown" of today`s top three justice stories.
We kick it off at No. 3 with Jodi Arias and the startling brand-new revelation that Jodi planned to become famous all along. That bombshell came from the prosecution while grilling the defense`s domestic abuse expert, who was back on the witness stand today. The testimony, of course, seen live right here on HLN, as it is seen every day.
Now, she returned to the stand after discussing the revelation that Jodi wrote a mysterious and unexplained so-called manifesto while in jail, hoping to sell it after her trial, and giving it to a friend after autographing it.
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ALYCE LAVIOLETTE, DOMESTIC ABUSE EXPERT: I remember hearing about it. I`ve never seen it.
JUAN MARTINEZ, PROSECUTOR: You haven`t seen the manifesto. I`m not asking if you`ve seen the manifesto. But you`ve heard about it, right?
LAVIOLETTE: I`ve only heard there was a manifesto. I don`t honestly know anything about it.
MARTINEZ: And I understand you may not have seen it, but isn`t it true that the defendant was signing or autographing copies of the manifesto...
JENNIFER WILLMOTT, JODI`S DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Objection.
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HAMMER: But wait, there`s more. Jodi also may have autographed a few more copies of the manifesto.
Attorney Darren Kavinoky is with us tonight from Hollywood. Darren is the host of "Deadly Sins" on Investigation Discovery. Investigative journalist Pat LaLama also with us in Hollywood tonight, and Pat, let me start with you.
You know, given the bizarre things that we have seen and heard about during the past 44 days of the Arias trial, I am not at all thinking it`s so far- fetched to think that Jodi might have been plotting out her plan to become famous all along. What do you think?
PAT LALAMA, INVESTIGATIVE JOURNALIST: It sounds like a great Lifetime movie, if it isn`t already. But here`s the thing. I don`t believe she planned to commit murder to get famous.
I think that this is a woman with a deep emotional vacuum. This is an empty vessel. There`s a hole in her soul. Her fame was using her sexual power and her prowess in the beginning to get attention. Now that the monster of fame has been created within the courtroom, now she wants to capitalize on that. She can`t help herself. She is a deeply troubled woman.
HAMMER: So after the fact.
LALAMA: Yes.
HAMMER: So a hole in her soul, but there`s still a whole lot going on that we can`t quite understand upstairs.
And I can`t get over the fact that she may have signed copies of this manifesto, Darren. What does that say to you about Jodi Arias?
DARREN KAVINOKY, HOST, INVESTIGATION DISCOVERY`S "DEADLY SINS": Well, that she`s absolutely delusional, but that`s no surprise to anybody who`s been following this case. There`s one example after another of Jodi`s bizarre behavior that just shows that she has very little connection to reality, but that may actually be the silver lining for the defense in this case.
Let`s not forget, A.J., that one possible manslaughter theory is the honest but unreasonable right to use self-defense. So if she`s so out of whack that she honestly believes...
LALAMA: Oh, Darren.
KAVINOKY: Hold on, Pat -- she honestly believed that she had the right to use that self-defense, that may actually buy her a manslaughter rather than a first-degree murder conviction.
LALAMA: And that`s why they pay you defense attorneys the big bucks, right?
KAVINOKY: To have that kind of insight, absolutely.
HAMMER: All right, Pat. Obviously, you`re not buying that, but the same domestic abuse expert who made the revelations about Jodi`s hope to be famous also revealed that Jodi was also very happy about scoring very well on an I.Q. test, because that she believed she scored as high as Einstein. Watch this.
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MARTINEZ: We also have an individual who was very happy about being tested, because she believes that she`s as smart as Einstein.
WILLMOTT: Objection. Mischaracterizing the testimony.
JUDGE SHERRY SHEPHERD, PRESIDING OVER TRIAL: Sustained.
MARTINEZ: That her I.Q. is as high as Einstein`s.
WILLMOTT: Objection.
SHEPHERD: Overruled.
LAVIOLETTE: Yes, she so said.
MARTINEZ: And she`s signing manifestos because she believes she`s going to be famous.
LAVIOLETTE: I don`t know if she believes she`s going to be famous, but she`s signing manifestos.
MARTINEZ: Do you want to look at your notes where you indicate that?
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HAMMER: All right, Pat. What do you think, does Jodi`s high I.Q. score show that, yes, we are dealing with a woman who, while it may not have been her original intention, was smart enough to plot her path to fame when she was locked up and facing murder charges?
LALAMA: No, I don`t think so. I think we have a woman here who`s as narcissistic as you can possibly get. I think she makes Drew Peterson look humble. She is so about herself. She is using every opportunity to advance her image somehow.
To me she possesses not an iota of conscience for the hell she`s caused other people and the death of a human being. It`s just not there. And she`s plucking this opportunity, now that the spotlight is on her, to try to advance her image and get somewhere with that. It`s heinous. It`s absolutely heinous.
HAMMER: Well, you do know that one day somebody is going to want to pay to tell Jodi Arias`s story, whether on Lifetime or somewhere else.
But another notorious woman might not be able to cash in, and that`s Casey Anthony. No. 2 on our "SHOWBIZ Justice Countdown" tonight, an unprecedented battle over the rights to Casey`s story kicked off today in an Orlando courtroom. It was just this afternoon.
And this is nearly two years after Casey was, of course, acquitted on charges that she killed her two-year-old daughter. Casey has since filed for bankruptcy. She claims she owes nearly $800,000. The bankruptcy trustee wants a judge to give him the rights to Casey`s life story so it can be sold to pay her debts.
Darren, how in the world can someone actually lose the right to their own life story? I find this truly wild.
KAVINOKY: Well, hang on, we`ve got to put this in context here. A bankruptcy trustee represents the collective interests of the creditors, so the trustee is there to get ahold of whatever assets there are and sell them for the benefit of all these people that she owes the hundreds of thousands of dollars to.
So at the end of the day, the real issue is, who`s going to get the benefit of Casey Anthony`s life story? Is it the creditors? If they can grab it now, then the creditors at least get the benefit of it.
If this bankruptcy goes through, and she hasn`t yet been -- she hasn`t yet sold her life rights, she can do it later after she`s wiped out all of the debt. So if they don`t do it now, Casey Anthony is the one who`s ultimately going to be the beneficiary of that.
HAMMER: Wow. And I can`t believe it`s two years later, and yet, we`re going to have to wait and see how this all plays out.
But that takes us to No. 1 on our "SHOWBIZ Countdown" of "SHOWBIZ Justice" story breaking today. Never thought it would be these two, but it is. Jay-Z and Beyonce facing a possible congressional investigation for going to Cuba to celebrate their fifth wedding anniversary.
Now, we all know it is illegal to travel to Cuba unless the U.S. government gives you permission for the right reasons. Even a White House spokesman got pulled into this.
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JAY CARNEY, WHITE HOUSE PRESS SECRETARY: Decisions made about cultural travel and academic travel are made by the Treasury Department, and I would refer you for specific cases to the Treasury Department.
It is certainly the case that under this administration we have eased the ability to travel to Cuba for those purposes, but the decisions at the individual level are made at the Treasury Department, not here.
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HAMMER: All right. So the White House being called to the carpet. A U.S. senator and a congressman and congresswoman calling for an investigation now. Pat, have at it.
LALAMA: Wait a minute! Wait a minute! Who are we fooling here? They went to Cuba with a wink and a nod through the administration, because those are their buddies. Why are we pretending like we don`t know how they got there?
It is beyond me why successful celebrities love to embrace dictatorships and tyrannical regimes, but so be it.
But let me say this. And I mean this from the bottom of my heart. While they`re blinging themselves through the streets of Havana with the hip-hop cigar so cliche-ish-ly in his hand, I hope that they remember that they accumulated all that wealth in a free society...
HAMMER: Yes.
LALAMA: ... with an open market and the privilege of this society. And all those young kids gaping at them, maybe they`ll think, "Wow, if we start a revolution, we can get the hell out of here and maybe have some freedom ourselves."
HAMMER: Darren, I`ll give you a small amount of time here.
KAVINOKY: I was going to say, is there time left on the meter?
You know, look, isolationism is -- is a policy that doesn`t work. We`ve been isolating Cuba since the Eisenhower administration. If we`re actually going to be a world leader here, Pat, we need to open up travel so that we can be the billboard...
HAMMER: All right.
KAVINOKY: ... of what democracy and freedom allows.
HAMMER: I`m going to jump in -- I`ve got to jump in and end it there, and having nothing to do with any of this conversation, didn`t Beyonce look fantastic?
Darren, Pat, thank you both so much.
All right. Forget WrestleMania. We have got another fight on our hands tonight that could make John Cena`s smackdown of The Rock the other night feel like child`s play. It`s the "Battle of the Baby Bumps." Kim Kardashian, fashion edition. Are Kim K.`s decidedly nontraditional maternity fashions awesome or awful? It`s another "SHOWBIZ Countdown," "Battle of the Baby Bumps." Two international fashion experts right here to fight the good fight. What will be No. 1?
And I`m on location with Donald Trump. His good friend and former "Apprentice" star Omarosa is in some serious hot water over her late fiance`s estate. Michael Clarke Duncan`s family is making some jaw- dropping accusations.
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HAMMER: So when you hear her being categorized as a gold-digger?
DONALD TRUMP, REAL ESTATE MOGUL: Well, I don`t view her as a gold-digger. Actually, she`s a very hard worker.
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HAMMER: One on one with the Donald, next.
This is SBT, SHOWBIZ TONIGHT, on HLN.
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TRUMP: You`re all in here all the time. I mean, that bothers me also. Because frankly, you are in here all the time.
DENNIS RODMAN, FORMER PRO BASKETBALL PLAYER: But I`m in here because...
TRUMP: I don`t know, because your team brings you in, that`s why.
And by the way, in all fairness to me, every week I let you go. But every week they bring you back. Different teams, different players. And you are the project manager. You did lose, Dennis. You`re fired.
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HAMMER: Another one bites the dust. Dennis Rodman, the latest star to get the boot from "All-Star Celebrity Apprentice."
His group made, really, the ultimate blunder. They spelled the name of Donald Trump`s wife wrong on the presentation of her skincare line, a presentation they were making to her.
Well, tonight SHOWBIZ on location with Donald and the lovely Melania. And remember when Donald slammed Kim Kardashian`s skin-tight maternity fashions right here on the show last week? Well, tonight we`re going to find out what stylish mom Melania thinks of Kim`s mom-to-be couture.
But first, Donald and Melania sound off on the Dennis Rodman fallout.
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HAMMER: So much fun seeing Melania on "Celebrity Apprentice."
D. TRUMP: She did a great job. I`m not surprised that she did a great job.
HAMMER: Except Dennis Rodman essentially got fired for many reasons, but one being his team misspelled your name, which is just -- it`s just wrong, right?
MELANIA TRUMP, FOUNDER OF COSMETIC LINE: Well, you don`t misspell a brand name, and I mean, it was all over the product. So I think he did a great job, but that was a big, big, big mistake.
HAMMER: M-E-L-A-N-I-A, right?
M. TRUMP: Right.
HAMMER: I`m not fired, I got it right?
M. TRUMP: No, you`re not fired.
HAMMER: Well, it was great having -- great having you on the show and getting to see you on the show.
And I look at your wife and I think, here`s a woman who has it all. She`s got the husband. She`s got a great career for her own, does a lot of charity work, as well.
So I`m curious about what you think about something that Drew Barrymore just said. Drew is a woman, if you look at her, you think she has it all, as well, but she just gave a speech. And I want to read to you what she said in this speech.
She said, "Unfortunately, I was raised in this, like, generation of, like, `women can have it all,` and I don`t think you can. I think some things fall off the table. I would miss out on my daughter if I continued to direct films. I can`t do it. It was heartbreaking to let it go, but it was a clear choice."
Basically saying, something`s got to give when you`re such an ambitious woman. What do you think about that?
M. TRUMP: I think you need to do what your passion needs. You need to show your children that you work, as well, and support them when they want to work. And once the child is in school, you have those eight hours to work what your passion is.
HAMMER: Another big celebrity I think you can relate to, Kim Kardashian. You had a very public pregnancy. I`m sure you were very particular about what you would wear. Some people, including your husband, have been a little critical about what Kim has been wearing out in public. I think she`s getting an unnecessary hard time. It`s tough, isn`t it?
M. TRUMP: Well, I just say to Kim do whatever you want to do. Don`t care what people say.
HAMMER: Let`s talk about Omarosa. Of course, you fired her on last week`s show, and she`s back in the news because Michael Clarke Duncan`s family reportedly is essentially calling her a gold-digger, saying some pretty unkind things about what she may have done with his finances. I know she`s a big friend of yours, and you`re a big fan of hers.
D. TRUMP: Well, I like her, and you know, we together became the No. 1 show in all of television, as you remember. And she`s been great on "The Apprentice," and she recently did a very good job. I`m surprised to hear this. It`s too bad, and hopefully, it gets resolved.
HAMMER: So when you hear her being categorized as a gold-digger?
D. TRUMP: Well, I don`t see her as a gold-digger. Actually, she`s a very hard worker. I mean, I`ve gotten to know Omarosa pretty well, and she really works very hard, as you know. And I don`t see it that way. But you know, they`ll have to work it out.
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HAMMER: The firing continues this weekend on the all-new "All-Star Celebrity Apprentice," Sunday night on NBC.
I can`t wait to show you this tonight. A Halle Berry exclusive. She`s talking for the first time about expecting baby No. 2. It`s Halle`s new confession about having a baby with her fiance, Olivier Martinez.
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BERRY: I feel fantastic. This has been the biggest surprise of my life, to tell you the truth.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Really?
BERRY: I thought I was past the point where this could be a reality for me.
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HAMMER: We are one-on-one with Halle. She`s also revealing new details about her other baby and an inspiring international movement.
Plus, did you see this? Peanut butter, plus an adorable dog certainly equals a side-splitting viral video.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I was basically crying behind the camera, laughing so hard.
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HAMMER: I dare you not to crack up.
Now, SHOWBIZ on location in Atlanta, The Final Four. Louisville makes history with their NCAA basketball championship win. But the party wasn`t just on the hardwood. The big dance concert series got things moving in the ACL with some of the biggest names in music, and SHOWBIZ TONIGHT`s Nischelle Turner right there to go one-on-one with hit-maker Flo Rida, who revealed when he really knew he was officially a big deal.
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NISCHELLE TURNER, HLN CORRESPONDENT: When you know you have a hit, is there a time?
FLO RIDA, MUSICIAN: Well, you`ve got a hit when your grandma calls you and says, you know, she stays out of the state, you know, or someone from another country calls you.
TURNER: Don`t tell me your grandma was grooving. Was she doing that?
FLO RIDA: Oh, yes, she was.
TURNER: Grandma was? That`s fantastic!
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PHYLICIA RASHAD, ACTRESS: You see, I am not serving Dr. Huxtable, OK?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: OK.
RASHAD: That`s the kind of thing that goes on in a restaurant. Now, I`m going to bring him a cup of coffee just like he brought me a cup of coffee this morning, and that, young man, is what marriage is made of. It is give and take 50-50, and if you don`t get it together and drop these macho attitudes, you are never going to have anybody bringing you anything, anywhere, anyplace, anytime ever.
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HAMMER: I love is. That is, of course, the tough talking but always big- hearted TV mom, Clair Huxtable. She is one of the most famous and, of course, most beloved TV moms of all time. She did so much to make TV moms real-life people. But is she the best TV mom ever?
Well, tonight, we`ve got the bracket for you. While America went mad over the March Madness brackets, our good friends at HLN`s "Raising America" set up a very provocative bracket of their own. They asked, who is the best TV mom ever? It was Mom Madness, I tell you. So who made the final cut to the Final Four?
Well, you voted for Carol Brady and June Cleaver, Caroline Ingalls and Clair Huxtable. And tonight, I am so pleased that "Raising America`s" Kyra Phillips is right here.
And Kyra, you are going to reveal to us who was voted the best TV mom ever. I love that you did it. Let`s get right to it. I understand that "The Cosby Show`s" Claire Huxtable and "Little House on the Prairie`s" Caroline Ingalls were in your final Mom Madness bracket. So who came out on top? Best TV mom ever?
KYRA PHILLIPS, HOST, "RAISING AMERICA": Drum roll. We need -- we need the drumroll.
HAMMER: Charles, if you -- no, we didn`t pay for that tonight. Sorry.
PHILLIPS: Well, I`m curious what you would think. I mean, Claire Huxtable, right? Smart, sassy, in your face. You would think that that`s who we all relate to.
But in an over -- overnight, astounding change of votes, it was Claire a couple days ago, but Ingalls came in and took it. She apparently is the best TV mom ever, according to our viewers. There it is.
HAMMER: Stolen. Look at that. I would have picked Claire. Well, let`s take a look at Caroline Ingalls in action so we can understand why she`s the best TV mom ever.
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KAREN GRASSLE, ACTRESS: My home is where you are. And you are and the children are my family.
MICHAEL LANDON, ACTOR: Caroline Ingalls, I love you.
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HAMMER: Well, I guess it is hard to top that kind of commitment, Kyra.
PHILLIPS: I tell you what: committed, sweet, supportive, understanding. Our viewers say that`s the best mom ever.
HAMMER: All right. Let me go to the tail of the tape here for a second. What do you think it was specifically that let her pull away so far from Claire Huxtable in the end, because you said it was a tight race to begin with?
PHILLIPS: Oh, yes, totally, and if you look at what our viewers voted on, it was seasons on the air, lovability and comedy, OK? And it was pretty much split down the middle.
But in the end, the bonnet, the horse and buggy, it won -- it won out.
HAMMER: Yes.
PHILLIPS: So I`m just wondering if I have to change my ways. I mean, I kind of thought smart and sassy was the way to go. I guess I have to, you know, temper myself a little bit now.
HAMMER: I think you need to start taking a horse and buggy to work, Kyra. Thank you so much for being with us.
PHILLIPS: You bet.
HAMMER: It`s a lot of fun.
And you can, of course, watch Kyra Phillips on "RAISING AMERICA" weekdays, 12 p.m. Eastern here on HLN.
OK. We move now from best TV moms to the most talked-about moms-to-be on the planet. Kim Kardashian, Duchess Catherine. Our "SHOWBIZ Countdown" tonight, "Battle of the Baby Bumps," and we`re asking, are Kim K.`s daring maternity gear choices awesome or awful? Well, wait till you hear this. We`ve got two international fashion experts. They are duking it out tonight. But who will be No. 1?
Plus, tonight`s moment of "SHOWBIZ Awesomeness." It is the incredibly clever raccoon who does his own version of a tightrope act using telephone wires. Truly unreal.
This is SBT, SHOWBIZ TONIGHT, on HLN.
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HAMMER: Right now the "SHOWBIZ Countdown." Brand-new developments today in the "Battle of the Baby Bumps." Tonight the great debate. Kim Kardashian`s controversial pregnancy fashion, is it awful or awesome?
I know for sure that this is awesome. Yes, you`re really looking at a dog in a suit eating peanut butter.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I was basically crying behind the camera, laughing so hard.
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HAMMER: Yes, forget about table scraps. I will reveal to you the secrets behind the dog eating peanut butter.
SHOWBIZ TONIGHT continues right now.
Welcome back to SHOWBIZ TONIGHT. Thank you for watching. I`m A.J. Hammer in New York.
And tonight on the SHOWBIZ Countdown it`s the battle of the baby bumps. Now we are counting down the top three celebrity moms-to-be who are breaking headlines today. And kicking off the countdown at number three, the great debate that`s going on coast to coast today over Kim Kardashian`s pregnancy fashion.
What do you think? Is it awful or awesome? Kim`s pregnancy fashion hits and misses have people divided everywhere all over the planet. The body- hugging leather, the revealing gowns, the three-inch heels. And she`s really pregnant.
With me tonight from Hollywood fashion expert and TV personality Nikki Pennie who once worked as the stylist to yet another famous mom-to-be Kate Middleton. Nikki blogs on the Britishbardot.com.
And Mary Alice Stephenson with us from Washington tonight. She is a beauty expert and she has styled everybody from Beyonce to J.Lo.
Great to having you both here. Let`s get right into it and start by taking a look at one of Kim`s most talked-about pregnancy outfits so far. Some have called it egregious when she wore the skin-tight black leather skirt, a sleeveless white blouse and a leather stole. She was out running errands while she was wearing all that.
So to our countdown question, awful or awesome? And Mary Alice, I`ll start with you.
Well, A.J., I`m going to say that Kim is awesome in general. I think that a lot of times the media amps up everything she wears and actually picks pictures that make her look a lot bigger than she is.
This one from the side, many of the images are manipulated by media. TMZ does this a lot. So in fine print it will say that this image is manipulated, but Kim has only gained about 20 pounds, A.J. She`s 5`2". The average height of a woman in America is 5`4". She`s 5`2". She`s extremely curvy. Let`s all embrace her for her love of fashion and her love of curves.
HAMMER: Mary Alice, I am right there with you. I`ve been saying it all along, and I`m not one that normally defend Kim Kardashian, but I think it`s unfair that people have been taking shots at her for what she`s wearing. She took a lot of heat for that leather look, but she talked about it live with Kelly and Michael. And you got to see what she said.
STEPHENSON: OK.
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KIM KARDASHIAN, TV REALITY STAR: Like I wear this black leather skirt the other day and --
KELLY RIPA, "LIVE WITH KELLY AND MICHAEL": You look adorable.
KARDASHIAN: Thank you.
RIPA: I loved it.
KARDASHIAN: People are like, why are you wearing black, are you ashamed, are you trying to hide it? And I was -- it was tight, I was trying to show the bump.
RIPA: Right.
KARDASHIAN: You know, you`re suffocating the baby. And I`m like hey.
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I had this skirt like a maternity skirt made for me, like, especially.
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HAMMER: And Nikki, she went on to say that she felt good about herself, but do you agree with Kim or the critics? Awful or awesome for you?
NIKKI PENNIE, THEBRITISHBARDOT.COM: Nikki I think it`s awful, A.J. I`m really sorry, but I think she -- Kim has made her name very cleverly on gaining press attention. That`s what her whole career is based upon, and she`s clearly very cleverly doing it with her dress sense, too, because it`s so awful.
HAMMER: What`s wrong with it? Why? Why?
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STEPHENSON: I have a question, A.J.
HAMMER: OK. Go ahead.
STEPHENSON: Nikki, have you ever been pregnant?
PENNIE: No, I haven`t.
STEPHENSON: Right, so --
PENNIE: Not yet, no.
STEPHENSON: Like you need -- we need to have a woman here that understands. Your body changes, you gain weight. That is healthy. I remember you saying a lot in the press about how you were so, so passionate and pleased that Kate Middleton stayed true to who she was in her -- with her pregnancy style. That`s exactly what Kim is doing.
Kim became famous globally because she loves fashion. She started as a stylist. And she also has curves. That`s why the world responds to her. To say it`s awful is doing a huge disservice to women across the entire globe.
PENNIE: I understand what you`re saying, Mary Alice, but I actually think -- I have so many friends that are pregnant right now, and they are very sexy and curvy and very fashion forward just like Kim, but they dress in the right way. Everything she wears emphasizes her bump in the wrong way.
I appreciate that she`s sexy and she`s a woman and she likes to be, you know, cool and fashion forward, but she just picks all the wrong things.
STEPHENSON: Well, I actually think --
PENNIE: If you think she looks great every time she steps out of the house that`s -- you know.
STEPHENSON: I don`t think any woman looks great when every time they step out of the house, and I think that most first-time moms are just easing into their curves. Their body is changing so dramatically. They have hits and misses just like everybody else. You know --
HAMMER: Well, let me see if I can get you two on the same page with another look. Let`s continue the debate, but I want to look at the Michael Lambden dress that Kim wore when she was on "Live with Michael -- Kelly and Michael." This even set off a huge online fashion debate. People either loving it or hating it.
Nikki, was this any better for you? Awful or awesome?
PENNIE: I love the color of it. The color of it was really chic and demure, but the way that the dress comes out, it`s almost as if she`s going to lift off like a hot air balloon.
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STEPHENSON: That`s so funny. You know what --
HAMMER: Well, Mary Alice, I`d love to hear what you have to say about it because she clearly loves to show off her assets with, you know, the really body-hugging ensembles.
STEPHENSON: And you know what --
HAMMER: Awful or awesome for you in that outfit?
STEPHENSON: A.J., that`s -- I think that that`s fine and that`s OK. You know, she loves -- that`s what fashion is all about, showing off, and being pregnant is something that you should show off. And Kim feels comfortable in her own skin. She feels sexy. You know, I`ve had a lot of conversations with Kim`s camp. You know she -- it does hurt her feelings when people like Nikki says she doesn`t look good.
She`s trying like everybody else. This dress is Alber Elbaz for Lanvin. Kim has been working with a lot of different designers like Alber Elbaz, like Riccardo Tisci from Givenchy. She`s had her friends that are designers like Rachel Roy who works with her to design clothing that, you know, fits her the right way.
I just wish that people would give this, you know, girl a break and just accept her and her curves, and that`s the very thing why everyone loves her to begin with.
HAMMER: And -- and listen, I`m getting an education, too, because now I know it`s Lanvin.
Listen, to your point, Mary Alice, I want to break down Kim`s high fashion pregnancy style now.
STEPHENSON: OK.
HAMMER: Look at this outfit. She wore this long white gown, glammed up for the Elton John AIDS Foundation event around the Oscars.
STEPHENSON: She looks beautiful, I think.
HAMMER: Nikki, is this not the look you would expect from a fashionista? Awful or awesome on this one?
PENNIE: Well, I just don`t why she went for the color white because white you have to have a certain physique to wear anyway because it`s such a tricky color. And if she wore this in black, I think it would have been awesome, but because this is the color with her bump and everything and her figure, I just think it was all kinds of wrong.
HAMMER: All right. Well --
STEPHENSON: See, I think, A.J., it`s all kinds of right, it`s an angelic. Being pregnant is, you know, angelic and a beautiful thing. I think she looks gorgeous. I think there are no rules in fashion right now. It`s about breaking rules and I love this dress.
HAMMER: Well, let`s see if we can all come together as we hop across the pond now for number two on tonight`s SHOWBIZ countdown battle of the baby bumps. There are some big new revelations tonight about Duchess Kate who of course is due in July, right around the same time as Kim. There is some brand new reports that if she gives birth to a boy, he`ll be named Phillip after William`s grandfather.
So, Nikki, let me go to you on this as Kate`s former stylist. If it is a boy, will it be -- be a bit of a fashion letdown? Because I hear women say all the time, you know, it`s so much more fun dressing up little girls.
PENNIE: It is, but I also think it`s fun to dress up little boys as well. Especially the clothes now that you can get for boys, they are so cute. And no matter whether it`s a boy or a girl, it will be the most chicest, cutest baby ever.
HAMMER: Yes. I have a feeling that`s true.
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PENNIE: I`m biased.
HAMMER: Well, I have a feeling the Kardashian baby is going to be pretty well styled as well, but Kate revealed, by the way, that her friends keep texting her about possible baby names. Just like it goes on with every woman in the world. They haven`t revealed what a baby girl would be called, though. We heard Phillip for the boy.
Mary Alice, what do you think? Maybe Diana, maybe Elizabeth?
STEPHENSON: Diana would be great. I think that`s a good suggestion, A.J.
HAMMER: Nikki, have you been sending any baby name suggestions Kate`s way?
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PENNIE: I think she`s been getting so many baby name suggestions from everyone, but I think that they have -- I think it might be maybe even a Margaret or something like that.
HAMMER: That`s an immense --
PENNIE: Who knows?
HAMMER: Immense amount of pressure when you`re in that position. I can`t even begin to imagine.
All right. We`re obviously going to have to wait and see what Duchess Katherine and Prince William name their little royal bundle of joy. But maybe they can give Halle Berry some suggestions since she tops our battle of the baby bumps countdown at number one. Halle just announced she is pregnant with her second child.
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HALLE BERRY, ACTRESS: I feel fantastic. This has been the biggest surprise of my life, to tell you the truth.
ALINA CHO, CNN ANCHOR: Really.
BERRY: I thought I was kind of past the point where this could be a reality for me.
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HAMMER: Halle revealed exclusively to CNN`s Alina Cho that she is expecting. You do not want to go anywhere because Halle reveals all the details of her pregnancy coming up next.
And wait until you see YouTube`s biggest new celebrity.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I was basically crying behind the camera laughing so hard.
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HAMMER: Did you see this? It`s really quite amazing. This German Shepherd with, well, table manners that are better than some humans I know. This doggie dining video is blowing up tonight. You`ve got to see it, because I have got the secrets behind how this video was made. Trust me, you`re going to want to stick around for it because it gets even better than what you`re seeing here.
Plus, wait until you see what we named as our moment of SHOWBIZ awesomeness tonight.
This is SBT, SHOWBIZ TONIGHT on HLN.
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HAMMER: Welcome back. Tonight in the SHOWBIZ countdown, the battle of the baby bumps. And we are counting down the top three celebrity moms-to-be who are making some pretty big headlines today is where we are so far. And in number three, Kim Kardashian`s maternity style has divided the fashion world. Is it awful or awesome? Fashion experts taking a closer look. Number two, Duchess Kate reveals that she`s narrowed down her list of royal baby names. Does baby Phillip have a nice ring to it? I kind of like it. And that brings us to the big reveal.
Number one on the SHOWBIZ countdown "Battle of the Baby Bumps", and it`s Halle Berry joining the ranks of moms-to-be. For the second time now at the age of 46. She`s starting a new family with her fiance, French actor, Olivier Martinez, and now Halle tells CNN`s Alina Cho in an exclusive interview that her new pregnancy came as quite a shock. Watch this.
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BERRY: I feel fantastic. This has been the biggest surprise of my life, to tell you the truth.
CHO: Really.
BERRY: I thought I was kind of past the point where this could be a reality for me, so it`s been a big surprise and the most wonderful.
CHO: And a boy?
BERRY: I don`t know. I don`t know. But healthy. Healthy. That`s all on my mind.
CHO: Halle, as a mother, what does it mean to you to be involved with the U.N. World Food Program?
BERRY: Especially now, being a pregnant woman and already having a child, that it`s so important what happens to the baby while they`re in utero. And the first 1,000 days is fundamental. Good nutrition during that time period is fundamental for your baby to develop properly and normally.
CHO: Michael, I know that you`ve been involved with fighting hunger for a very long time on the local level in the United Nations.
MICHAEL KORS, DESIGNER: Exactly.
CHO: Why is this so near and dear to you?
KORS: I`m a guy who likes to see results. And, you know, you see that this is a solvable problem. The food is there. You can change someone`s life immediately.
CHO: $50 will feed a child for an entire school year.
KORS: That`s crazy. Well, I think -- think about --
BERRY: Coffee.
KORS: Think about a cup of coffee. Here in New York City, a cappuccino is $5. That`s going to feed a child in Africa for a month. That`s unbelievable. We`ve never actually designed a product that was strictly designed for philanthropic purposes.
CHO: So I want the big reveal. Show it to me.
KORS: The big reveal.
CHO: So it`s the watch. And you have a special name for it, right?
KORS: Yes. This is our 100 series watch.
CHO: Wow. Tada.
KORS: And --
BERRY: If you buy this watch, this buys 100 meals. And I know when I give, I want to know, well, what exactly -- where is my money going, and people often want to feel like, OK, if I buy that watch, does it really translate into food, and this does.
CHO: Wow.
BERRY: And that to me is pretty, pretty amazing.
CHO: What do you get out it of it?
BERRY: I feel really good. You know, that`s so simplistic and we`re helping others, but it gives me another reason to wake up. I`m a mom, and that`s first and foremost, but it gives me another reason to exist, another purpose. And if I know that I`m helping one person every day in some way, that really makes me feel good.
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HAMMER: Well, I`m glad she feels good because we`re so happy for Halle. Such a great cause, her getting together with Michael Kors working to help fight global hunger. And those watches are being sold in Michael Kors stores everywhere and on Michaelkors.com. If you`re looking for one, CNN national correspondent Alina Cho with me tonight in New York.
And I`m looking at her, Alina. She`s obviously over the moon about becoming a mom again. I`ve sat face to face with Halle many times, but never while she`s pregnant. So how did she look up close and personal?
CHO: She looked incredible. You know, A.J., remember we just saw her a couple of months ago at the Oscars, and as spectacular as she looked on that night, I have to tell you, on the day that I saw her, she looked even better. She was just glowing through and through. She let me feel her baby bump. It was there ever so slightly. And remember, this is a woman who is 46 years old.
HAMMER: Yes.
CHO: She wasn`t trying to get pregnant. She never thought she could get pregnant. And here she is, pregnant, and she could not be happier. She calls it the biggest surprise of her life.
HAMMER: Yes. I know I loved the look on her face when she told you flat out, yes, I was shocked by this. What about the dads-to-be, because they can glow, too. Was Olivier Martinez hanging around when you were chatting with Halle?
CHO: You can bet I wish he would have been there but he wasn`t. Unfortunately. Halle told me that he is Paris. Of course Halle`s daughter, 5-year-old Nala, is in school right now, so she is spending the school year in Los Angeles, but you can bet when the summer comes, she`ll be heading to Paris.
HAMMER: And I think her pregnancy fashion will rate highly with you?
CHO: Yes, absolutely. Listen, Halle is a woman who always keeps it sleek and simple. She looked great on that night that I saw her, and you can bet she will look great as she continues with her pregnancy up until she delivers.
HAMMER: Yes. What a wonderfully nice woman, and I`m so glad that she`s doing this work with Michael Kors, and I thank you for bringing it to us, Alina. Thanks.
CHO: You bet.
HAMMER: All right. We move on now from Halle`s incredible celebrity baby revelations to YouTube`s newest celebrity. Did you see this?
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I was basically crying behind the camera laughing so hard.
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HAMMER: Forget about table scraps. This is Odin, the German Shepherd. Yes, he wants to eat his peanut butter just like you and me. It is the hilarious viral video that`s got everybody buzzing tonight. I`ll reveal how it was made, and wait until you see what we have named as our moment of SHOWBIZ awesomeness tonight.
This is SBT, SHOWBIZ TONIGHT on HLN.
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HAMMER: OK. Did you see this? It is the brand new viral video everybody is talking about today. Yes, you are looking at a dog. In a suit. Eating peanut butter. And I know we could just sit there and talk about who the heck has time to make a dog look so human eating peanut butter. But we could also just sit back and enjoy this priceless doggie dining video.
So here now is my colleague, CNN`s Jeanne Moos for SHOWBIZ TONIGHT with YouTube`s big new star. Please meet Odin, the German Shepherd.
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JEANNE MOOS, CNN SPECIAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Why make a sandwich when you can eat peanut butter straight out of the jar. The dog`s name is Odin, the guy laughing is the cameraman and the hands handling the spoon belongs to Odin`s owner. And if you think the cameraman`s laughter is contagious, just imagine being there.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I was basically crying behind the camera laughing so hard.
MOOS: At least Trevin Spencer could see the action. His roommate and the dog`s owner, Ashlin Parker, was underneath the green jacket with her head covered.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: She was kind of crouched down hiding behind Odin and her arms, are reaching around Odin.
MOOS: The dog himself was wearing a white shirt and vest for the shoot at home and smoke (INAUDIBLE).
(On camera): So what inspires someone to make a dog in a suit eating peanut butter video? The answer is two dogs dining with much better manners.
(Voice-over): These two waited patiently for their dinner and actually used silverware to eat, not to mention napkins. They even fed each other. The video that inspired Ashlin and Trevin was uploaded a little over two years ago. The viewers cried fake. The masterminds put out another video revealing their technique.
Ashlin and Trevin decide to do re-make a doggie dining classic using peanut butter, an arrested K-9 cinematic history. One comment posted, "I`m watching a dog in a suit eating peanut butter. What am I doing with my life?"
(On camera): What did you do with the leftover peanut butter?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It`s actually back in the fridge.
MOOS (voice-over): Waiting for Odin the German shepherd when he wants seconds. Be careful what you eat out of their fridge. Who cares about peanut butter and jelly? We prefer peanut butter and German shepherd.
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HAMMER: I can watch that all day. And I kind of like some peanut butter now. Chunky, please.
That was CNN`s Jeanne Moos for SHOWBIZ TONIGHT.
All right. If you loved that, I have another amazing animal video trick coming your way. It is a raccoon caught on tape performing this impromptu tightrope act. Get ready for a death-defying moment of SHOWBIZ awesomeness.
This is SBT, SHOWBIZ TONIGHT on HLN.
Here comes the SHOWBIZ buzz list. These are the top five things the SHOWBIZ TONIGHT staff is buzzing about today. `90s boy band kings New Kids on the Block are back on the block. Go grab their brand new album "10." And you can listen to "10" on the Nicki Minaj designed Beats by Dr. Dre portable speaker. She calls it her little pink pill.
Get ready for love. NBC`s brand new dating competition show is called "Ready for Love." It just kicked off tonight. This thing is actually getting more buzz than "The Bachelor." If that charges you up, I bet this will, too. I`m talking about the Everpurse, the purse that charges your cell phone while holding everything else you could ever possibly need.
And if you happen to be a fan of Ryan Gosling, I know you are psyched about this. His brand new movie is called "The Place Beyond the Pines" and it is in theaters right now.
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RYAN GOSLING, ACTOR, "THE PLACE BEYOND THE PINES": If you want a house, I`ll get you a house. If you want to get the -- out of here, we`ll get out of here. I`ve got that trailer. I`ll get a truck, we`ll hit the road. You pick a place you like, we`ll stop. If you don`t want to be there, we`re out of there."
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HAMMER: I certainly hope you`re ready because it is time now for SHOWBIZ awesomeness, and this is where we name the most awesome moment of the day. Tonight I bring you the incredibly clever raccoon.
Yes, that guy right there doing the tightrope act using telephone wires. That is a raccoon. How amazing is this? I`m actually thinking he might be able to go a little faster, you know, if he had one of those poles to kind of balance himself out a little better. I don`t know how he would grip it, but I`m not the only one who thinks this raccoon is one clever animal, oh no. Listen to what the woman who taped this whole thing has to say.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: That`s a raccoon walking from one side to one side using the telephone and the electricity pole. Very, very clever, hey? Very, very clever.
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HAMMER: Hey, yes. I kind of agree, that is one ingenious raccoon. I just wonder where he was going.
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