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Actors Victims of Racial Profiling?; Beauty Queen Sextortion Horror; Giuliana Rancic Opens Up about Breast Cancer, Motherhood; Science Stands up in New Sandra Bullock Film; Interview with RJ Mitte; Interview with Giuliana Rancic
Aired September 30, 2013 - 23:00 ET
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A.J. HAMMER, HOST: Tonight, a police stop involving two celebrities goes viral. Two black actors claim they were handcuffed, searched, and harassed by a cop in South Carolina. Were they the victims of racial profiling? Cherie Johnson, the former co-star of the `80s show "Punky Brewster," and actor Dennis White are here with their dramatic story.
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BRYAN CRANSTON, ACTOR: They did it for me. I liked it.
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HAMMER: "Breaking Bad" goes out with a bang. Oh, yes. Fans cannot stop talking about the end of the landmark series. And tonight, we are talking to the star who plays Walter White Jr. R.J. Mitte right here with big news about life after "Breaking Bad."
SHOWBIZ TONIGHT starts right now.
Hello, I`m A.J. Hammer, along with my guest co-host tonight, Nischelle Turner.
And Nischelle, it is so easy to see why everybody is talking about our top story tonight.
NISCHELLE TURNER, CO-HOST: Oh, yes. Indeed it is, A.J. It`s a pretty dramatic formula: Two Hollywood stars and a police officer who allegedly stepped over the line.
"Punky Brewster" and "Family Matters" star Cherie Johnson and her boyfriend, fellow actor Dennis White, say they were on a romantic getaway after teaching an acting workshop in North Carolina.
They decided to drive down to Myrtle Beach, South Carolina, when a sightseeing stop led to some very unwelcome attention from the police. It`s at that point where Cherie and Dennis`s adventure suddenly took a disturbing turn. They say an officer harassed them, handcuffed them for no reason, searched their belongings and eventually let them go without so much as an apology.
Now, a writer posted their story to a CNN i-report, and it`s touched off a tidal wave of reaction and an internal police investigation to what the couple believes is a serious case of racial providing.
HAMMER: Cherie Johnson and Dennis White are with us right now from Hollywood.
It`s great to have you both here. I`m so sorry it is under these circumstances, guys, because this is -- It`s just a terrible story. Dennis, I want to start with you. You were pulled over. You guys were on the side of the road. You were just taking some pictures, checking out a cotton field, and that`s when you encountered the police officer. What happened?
DENNIS WHITE, ACTOR: Well, you know, Cherie has never seen cotton before. So we saw the field and pulled over, took some pictures and just taking in the whole aspect of it; walking back to the car.
And the officer pulled up. Cherie was, like, "I just want to take some pictures." The cop pulled -- you know, reached for his gun. Told us to get in the car. So we got in the car. He asked for my license and registration, which is customary. He went back, checked everything. Came back clean.
He asked us a billion questions: Where we were going, where we were staying, how long we`ve known each other. Then he pulled me out of the car and asked me more questions about drugs, all different type of things, and then he went and questioned her. And you know, came back and said she had warrant for her arrest, which was actually not true. He came back and verified it wasn`t true.
He asked could he search the car, and I said no. He then went, put his gloves on, and handcuffed me and very aggressively. So I asked was I being arrested. He said no. He said, "I`m not arresting you; I`m handcuffing you." But he said, "I can." And then he went and pulled her out the car and handcuffed her.
TURNER: Cherie and Dennis, I mean, you`re laying this story out piece by piece. I have to ask. When all of this was happening, was there a point where you said, "OK, we`re being profiled here," when you knew this wasn`t how a regular traffic stop goes?
CHERIE JOHNSON, ACTRESS: I actually asked him, when I was still seated in the car after he told me that I did not have a warrant for my arrest, and he started asking me about drugs for the third time. I said, "Are you doing this because we`re black?"
And that was when everything took a turn for the worst. He patted the car. He walked back to his car. He put on gloves. Next thing I knew he was handcuffing Dennis.
TURNER: Cherie, you know, I see how emotional you are about this, because this is a very real-life situation, but you were also on the sitcom on "Family Matters" in the `90s. And you know, we actually went back. We found an episode from that show where it actually addresses what we`re talking about now, and that`s racial profiling.
The dad, Officer Winslow, confronts a racist cop who had pulled over his teenage son, Eddie. And I want to watch this scene together and then can ask you a couple of questions.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The bottom line: Your kid was in the wrong part of town.
REGINALD VELJOHNSON, ACTOR: The wrong part of town?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes.
VELJOHNSON: Oh, so what are you saying? That black kids aren`t allowed in white neighborhoods?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Come on. They wouldn`t be there unless they were looking for trouble. And you better talk to your kid. He gave me a lot of lip.
VELJOHNSON: Oh?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes.
VELJOHNSON: Is that why you made him get out of his car? Is that why you forced him to lie down? Is that why you cuffed him?
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TURNER: Cherie, you know, this episode aired almost 20 years ago. So what does it say to you that, after all this time, that we`re still talking about this?
JOHNSON: That it hasn`t gotten any better. And it -- it`s real.
WHITE: Sad.
JOHNSON: "Family Matters" was a show where we always touched on real issues. It hurts me more that, telling the story, other people are not surprised. They`re not shocked about what we went through. So many people have gone through it, too. I don`t understand how come they haven`t fought it and how come they just let it go.
WHITE: We`ve been conditioned to think that it`s OK, that we have to just sweep it under the rug. But we`re not doing that anymore. We`re fighting.
JOHNSON: It`s not OK.
HAMMER: No. It is definitely not OK. This is one of the most incorrigible things that, unfortunately, still goes on today.
I do want to read the statement that SHOWBIZ TONIGHT obtained from the Marion County Sheriff Department. They said, "Discrimination in any form, including racial profiling, is strictly prohibited by this department, and as sheriff of Marion County, South Carolina, I can assure you I will take immediate and appropriate action to investigate the allegations of racial profiling made by Mr. White and Ms. Johnson. This matter will be dealt with by an internal investigation within the department, and I will also ask the state law enforcement division to review the allegation made against Deputy Barfield." That is the deputy in question here.
Dennis, at the end of the day, what kind of a resolution do you hope for or expect in this situation?
WHITE: Just the knowledge that -- that it happens and that, you know, we all come together. We can`t fight it by ourselves. But if everyone comes together and stops the racial profiling and put a concerted effort to eradicate it.
And also, I mean, honestly, personally, I would like for him alleviated from his job. I would like him fired so that other officers know that there`s repercussions from doing those type of things. And we want a formal apology from him and the mayor.
JOHNSON: I hate for a man to lose his job. But he does not need a badge and a gun. Maybe a desk job, something like that. But not...
HAMMER: Well, we really hope people are paying attention and seeing how emotional you are about this, Cheri. I can`t even begin to imagine what you went through. Thank you for sharing your story with us, guys. And we`ll continue to follow. Thanks so much.
JOHNSON: Thank you.
WHITE: Thank you.
TURNER: OK. Now let`s move onto this next controversy that`s getting some big buzz today: Brand-new details are emerging tonight in Miss Teen USA`s cyber sextortion case.
Miss Teen USA, Cassidy Wolf, revealed that someone hacked into her computer, took over its web cam, and snapped nude photos of her without her even knowing it. Then the hacker contacted her and threatened to expose her unless she sent him more explicit material.
Cassidy went to the authorities, who cracked down and arrested the alleged hacker. In a stunning twist, it turns out she knows the guy. The suspect, 19-year-old computer science student Jared James Abrahams, is a former classmate of hers.
Attorney and legal affairs commentator Areva Martin joins us from Hollywood.
Very scary. Scary, Areva. Because this suspect is now being accused of running the same scam on other teenagers. He does face federal extortion charges. He`s out on $50,000 bond. Is he looking at prison time or even serious prison time for this?
AREVA MARTIN, ATTORNEY: I would hope so, Nischelle. This is just unthinkable. Think of how much we do with our computers, and to think that a 19-year-old kid can hack into a computer, take thousands of pictures from one of these women, and then use it to extort more pictures from them. Just really scary stuff going on.
TURNER: You know, Cassidy told "The Today Show" that she was able to put a stop to this scheme. Watch what she said here.
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CASSIDY WOLF, MISS TEEN USA: Because I know some of the girls who were involved in the case, you know, didn`t have the opportunity to talk to law enforcement and to get help. So it makes me feel really good that I was able to help them out, as well as other people who could be going through the same thing.
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TURNER: You know, this blows my mind, that someone can hijack your computer, take over the Web camera and get videos of you without you knowing it. Areva, is this common?
MARTIN: You know, I think it`s becoming more common than we`d like to think. It`s happening more and more. We`re hearing these stories about these hackers.
The good news, though, in this story is that Cassidy stood up. She wasn`t intimidated by this hacker. You know, she didn`t just sweep this under the rug. She went to the authorities.
And I think the lesson for anyone watching this story is to do just that. If you think you`ve been hacked, if you see your avatar has been changed or your Twitter account or you start to notice photographs, you know, populating on the Web site -- or on Web sites about you that you know you didn`t post, take some action. Call the authorities. These are crimes, and the individuals involved should be punished for these crimes.
TURNER: You know, it does make you wonder if there`s any such thing as privacy any more, Areva.
Thank you very much. Areva Martin in Hollywood tonight.
A.J., you know, what I think is so interesting is just what Areva was talking about. Cassidy didn`t have to go public with this, but she chose to stand up and react anyway.
HAMMER: Yes. Good for her. People are now aware of this. And you know what? Maybe put a little piece of tape on the camera on your computer. I`m just saying.
Miley Cyrus just broke off her engagement, of course, but now she`s professing her love for weed. That`s right. She is still doing everything in her power to distance herself from those Hannah Montana days. But here`s the thing: Is publicly talking about her drug use really the way to go?
It`s our countdown of the top three stories sparking debate tonight.
"Real Housewives of New Jersey" stars Teresa and Joe Giudice breaking their silence about the possibility of going to prison for decades for fraud.
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JOE GIUDICE, REALITY TV STAR: It`s like 50 per -- I don`t even know.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: For each?
J. GIUDICE: For each or something.
TERESA GIUDICE, REALITY TV STAR: No, Joe. It`s 50 altogether. I mean, that`s what they say in the magazines.
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HAMMER: So the question is: Will their emotional and candid confessions top the countdown?
This is SBT on HLN.
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HAMMER: Right now we are getting up close and personal with E! news co- host Giuliana Rancic, as we kick off Breast Cancer Awareness Month.
Giuliana was diagnosed with breast cancer back in 2011. It`s when she was trying to get pregnant that she learned of her diagnosis. And at the time, she and her husband, Bill, had been sharing their baby struggles on their reality show. So when Giuliana was diagnosed, she shared her story with the world.
Well, fast forward to 2013. I`m happy to report that Giuliana is happy. She is healthy and finally a mom to her 1-year-old son, Duke, who was born using a gestational carrier.
I just spoke with Giuliana to talk about what her life has been like since baby Duke arrived and how surviving breast cancer has changed everything.
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GIULIANA RANCIC, CO-HOST, "E! News": I`m feeling excellent. You know, I do my blood work every four months. And thank God, so far so good. Everything is clear. So amen.
HAMMER: Great to hear. Such a long road, though, and such a pivotal moment in anybody`s life when they get a diagnosis like that. I do want to take a look back at that time when you revealed you had breast cancer on "The Today Show." Let`s roll that out.
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RANCIC: Through my attempt to get pregnant for the third time through IVF, we sadly found out that I have early stages of breast cancer. So -- and it`s been a shock, because I recently found this out, and a lot of people have been asking, "You know, we saw on the season finale of your show that you went and got IVF. So what happened? Are you pregnant?" But sadly, we`ve had to put that off because of the news.
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HAMMER: OK. Only people who have been through that can actually know what it feels like, obviously. But here you are now on the other side of things. When you look back at that and see that tape, where does your head go?
RANCIC: You know, I always think about that exact moment and how incredibly scared I was and how sad I was. And I remember Ann Curry, who did the interview at the time. Right before we went live I was shaking so bad, A.J. Like, my hand was like this. I was shaking like a leaf. And Ann goes, "Do you think you`re going to cry?"
And I said, "I think I`m going to cry."
And she said, "Here, take these tissues and put them right under your leg, and just knowing they`re there will keep you from crying, hopefully."
And so it`s funny. When I see that clip, I always think about that moment and how terrified I was. And I don`t know how I announced that, but I felt like I had to. You know, it was either going to be a huge secret I was going to keep. And I just didn`t want the pressure of keeping that news a secret and, you know, sneaking in and out of doctors` offices. I`m just a very open person.
HAMMER: Yes.
RANCIC: I don`t want to be that person. And I also realized that this could help people. You know, being 36, being diagnosed without a family history of breast cancer, you know, I can share my story, and I can help people.
HAMMER: It`s been amazing seeing you use the incredible platform that you have in such a huge way. And I know that there are so many people who can relate to what you`ve been through, who come up to you in the street and talk to you all the time. What`s sort of the biggest moment of that been for you? A story that somebody has told you perhaps?
RANCIC: Gosh, there has been a lot. You know, we get everything from -- and when I say "we," my husband and I. Because we, you know, talk about this issue so much on our show, our reality show. And so, you know, everything from "because of you, I got my first mammogram and I had been putting it off." And I love hearing that. Just getting women in that routine of getting a mammogram.
But certainly the stories where young women have come up to me and said because of my story they went to the doctor. They said, "I know I`m young, but I want to get checked." And a handful of women have told me they found their breast cancer because of my story.
HAMMER: And now, of course, you have your beautiful son, Duke, 13 months old. I have to believe that being a mom changed things for you when you think about your cancer diagnosis.
RANCIC: Yes. Absolutely. He`s the greatest thing in the world. And I`ve got to say, I mean, even after finding the cancer and knowing, "OK, I`m going to be OK," it was still so scary for so long.
And now having Duke, I can`t really think about that. You know what I mean? I can`t think about, "Oh, God, what if this? What if I find out this?" I just have to -- you know, I focus on my baby and the joy he brings me. And so he really distracts me from all the kind of -- all that scary stuff that surrounds having breast cancer.
So it`s been -- it`s been everything. He`s everything to me.
HAMMER: And I know that you have said before that you are hoping for a little brother or sister for Duke. And I know you`ve chosen this place to break the news on where that is all at and what is happening. Go ahead. Tell the world, Giuliana.
RANCIC: A.J., you know I love you that much. I come here to break news.
HAMMER: That`s right.
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TURNER: So OK, you know I`m going to ask, A.J. Did she, didn`t she? Which is it?
HAMMER: It`s called a tease, Nischelle. I promise we`ll unveil the answer before the end of the hour.
TURNER: OK, OK. OK, I`m going to hold you to that.
HAMMER: OK. Also ahead, so many people are still struggling with their "Breaking Bad" hangovers today, like me.
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R.J. MITTE, ACTOR: (EXPLETIVE DELETED). Why are you still alive? Why don`t you just -- just die already? Just die.
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HAMMER: Well, if dealing with the cold, hard reality that the series is over is just too much for you to bear, please fear not. SBT has got your fix with R.J. Mitte, who of course, played Walter White Jr. He`s right here. He`s talking about life after the breakthrough hit series.
This is SBT on HLN.
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SANDRA BULLOCK, ACTRESS: No! No! Help, help!
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Houston. Listen to my voice. You need to focus. I`m losing visual of you.
BULLOCK: I`m spinning. Can`t breathe.
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TURNER: The new Sandra Bullock/George Clooney movie "Gravity" attacks the senses and tugs at your heartstrings. But there is one big mystery: Did they get the whole high above the Earth and surviving in space stuff right? Well, I went to the source, a real space scientist, to separate movie magic from the real Sci Fi good stuff.
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TURNER (voice-over): "A thrilling, nerve-shredding phenomenon." That`s critics describing "Gravity."
BULLOCK: Oh, my God!
TURNER: When it comes to space movies, it`s no secret Hollywood can be light on facts and heavy on fiction.
JEAN-LUC MARGOT, PROFESSOR, DEPARTMENT OF EARTH AND SPACE SCIENCES, UCLA: When I was in high school, we went to see "The Core," and there were maybe 20 or so geophysicists in the audience. And I remember, we were laughing at different times than the rest of the audience.
TURNER: As for the science behind this movie? UCLA`s Dr. Jean-Luc Margot says things are looking up.
MARGOT: From a scientific standpoint, I thought the moviemakers did a very good job. It was based on a shuttle servicing mission that has happened.
They paid attention to the fact that sound doesn`t propagate in space. They also tried hard to portray the conservation of momentum. So when Sandra and George collide with each other, they will sort of bounce off with each other.
I would give it an "A."
TURNER: Sandra Bullock and George Clooney co-star in the 90-minute 3-D epic directed by Alfonso Cuaron.
ALFONSO CUARON, DIRECTOR, "GRAVITY": The most important thing was to get right the science up on the screen.
BULLOCK: Because the minute that you see a crack or you see something that doesn`t feel right, you as the audience, you`re going to go, "No, no. It`s not there. You`ve lost me."
TURNER: The film`s $80 million budget included scientists, new lighting technology, and a gravity free simulator.
CUARON: A lot of that for me was to see how a camera would react there.
BULLOCK: Do you copy?
TURNER: To portray an astronaut stranded 400 miles above Earth, Bullock trained with real NASA veteran Cady Coleman.
BULLOCK: The thing I needed to know from her was physically what her body was doing, what it did in space.
TURNER: Margot, who saw the film in L.A., notes there are a few moments of space magic.
MARGOT: Particularly, there`s one scene where you see the space shuttle spinning wildly out of control because it`s hit -- got hit by debris. I actually did that calculation. It would have to be about a 1,000 kilograms, about a ton of material.
TURNER: Space trash that big would have been tracked by NASA.
MARGOT: Every single piece larger than about the size of my fist is being tracked.
TURNER: As for the film`s suggestion its heroine only had six months of training?
MARGOT: That would be implausible, but that makes the film more enjoyable.
TURNER: Enjoyable acclaim; for the most part realistic.
BULLOCK: I can`t breathe!
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TURNER: You know, I asked Sandra Bullock, A.J., what she thought would be the most strenuous part of space exploration: the physical or the mental. She said the mental. What do you think for you? The physical or the mental?
HAMMER: Oh, I think just trying to, you know, jam a candy bar through that helmet would -- that would get me all upset.
TURNER: A.J.
HAMMER: It`s a tough life.
All right. As we move on tonight, Kim Kardashian reclaiming her spot as one of the most photographed women on the planet. Yes, it`s her first public outing since the birth of baby North. But do you love Kim K.`s triumphant post-baby return, or should she leave it at the back of the closet?
This is our countdown tonight of the top three stories sparking big debate.
Will Miley Cyrus`s new drug confession top the countdown? Talking about her love for weed and the club drug Molly?
This is SBT on HLN.
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HAMMER: On the countdown tonight, love it or leave it. We are rolling out the top three stories that are sparking debate tonight, and we`re taking sides.
We have Miley`s Molly confessions. So she`s telling the world about the new Miley, drugs and all. And she doesn`t care what you think. Are you loving the honesty or hating the message?
Plus, Kim Kardashian`s new fashion passion. Kim is finally back in the spotlight all glammed up at Paris Fashion Week, but was her dress enough to make you wish she just stayed home with baby Northwest? Tonight, which dramatic diva will top the countdown? SBT continues right now.
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HAMMER: hWelcome back. And thank you for watching. I`m A.J. Hammer along with my guest cohost tonight Nischelle Turner. And tonight on our countdown, love it or hate it. We have got today`s top three stories that have everybody buzzing and, Nischelle, taking sides, of course.
TURNER: Yes, indeed. Kim Kardashian gets us going, A.J. Fans can finally exhale because Miss Kim is back and she`s at number three. Fans have been asking for much more Kim since she gave birth in June to baby North and practically just disappeared on us. All over the weekend, everyone (inaudible) to us what they want Kim step out with boyfriend Kanye West for Paris`s fashion week, all glammed up publicly. It`s the very first time since becoming a mom. Jen Hobby, who is the radio host for Kicks 101.5 country radio in Atlanta is with us tonight along with pop culture expert John Murray who is editor in chief of AlwaysAlist.com. All right, guys. Everybody seems to be split right down the middle over Kim`s post-baby glammed up fashion debut. But Jen, I`m going to give it to the ladies first. I want you to take it. Love it or leave it? What say you?
JEN HOBBY, RADIO HOST KICKS 101.5: I say love it. I think this is fabulous. She`s showing off her mom assets. And I just think that she looks fantastic. I`m so happy that the two of them are getting away as new parents. I think it`s important to reconnect and have mom and dad time together. And it also makes me think, maybe they are working on fashion line together and planting those seeds at Paris Fashion Week.
TURNER: You know, I agree with you on the face, that face gorge, the rest of it, I`m not so sure. John isn`t Paris Fashion Week, though, all about setting the tone of what the world should be wearing? Are you loving this look? Are you leaving it behind?
MURRAY: Nischelle, look I agree with you. First of all, they look like Kim and Kanye. I mean he wore a frown, she wore bad blond hair.
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MURRAY: Now, apparently the same designer who designed this black getup that she had on. He designed that couch dress that she wore in the famous Met Ball earlier this year. Now, at last this look didn`t make you want to grab a snack, sit on her and watch hours and hours of HLN. So, I want the old Kim back. I want the dark hair. I want her to look fine against. This Kim, not so much.
Not that there`s anything wrong with grabbing a snack and watching hours and hours of HLN.
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AJ: Let`s move onto number two on tonight`s "Love It or Leave It" countdown, and it is Teresa and Joe Giudice from the "Real Housewives of New Jersey." So, they are breaking their silence for the first time about facing those 39 counts of financial fraud. They talked about a possible prison sentence with last night on Bravo TV`s "Watch What Happens Live."
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: When I heard that these charges carry a maximum of 50 years in prison --
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I thought it was 100.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Is it 100?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I think. I`m not sure. I think it was like 50 per -- I don`t even know.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: For each?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: For each or something.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: No, it`s 50 all together, hon. That`s what they say in the magazine.
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HAMMER: So they`re finding out how much charges they have against them from the magazines. OK. Not even sure about that. Jen, to you on this. Do you love it that the Giudices are bold enough to speak out even though they really have no idea apparently of what`s going on or what`s ahead?
HOBBY: I think it just shows that they are pretty confident that they will be able to beat this. They seem a little flippant about some pretty serious charges. So I have got to go with leave it on this one.
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HAMMER: I was waiting on this. Some people were watching that kind of like me, thinking not the right time for the Giudices to be sitting in front of cameras and telling their story. People were all over this on our SBT Facebook page. Let me read a couple for you. One from Andrea. She wrote it`s OK to step away from the spotlight and ride things out, you know? I wish they would pay attention to that. A lot of people were agreeing with Andrea as well. John, what about you? The Giudices big TV tell all, love it or leave it?
MURRAY: Leave it. It`s just Monday, but these two might be my whackadoos of the week. When you`re facing the types of crimes that they are facing, you don`t go on TV and talk about them. You could further incriminate yourself. These two are gluttons for punishment. And they are probably going to end up in hot water.
HAMMER: Let`s see if we can make it to Friday without others taking their place. That takes us to No. 1. on our love it or leave it countdown. How can it not be in Miley mania. Today Miley is making headlines yet again. She told "Rolling Stone" magazine about her drugs of choice. Let me read to you a bit of what she said. "I think weed is the best drug on earth. One time I spoked a joint with peyote in it and I saw a wolf howling at the moon. Hollywood is a coke town, but weed is so much better. And Molly too. Those are happy drugs, social drugs. They make you want to be with friends. You`re out in the open. You`re not in a bathroom. I really don`t like coke. It`s so gross and so dark. It`s like what are you, from the `90s? Ew." Wow. Jen, I don`t know what to make of this at all. Do you love her unapologetic take it or leave it attitude here?
HOBBY: This makes my blood boil. At one point she was Hannah Montana. You have to take responsibility that like it or not, you are a role model for those girls that looked up to you so much. And to be so carefree about your drug use, following the death of Cory Monteith and so many of her Hollywood peers who have real drug addiction problems and they are dying from this, for her to be so blase about it, that it was such a casual mention of her favorites just makes me so angry. Miley, get it together. You have so many fans that want to follow you and be who you are. So be a good example.
HAMMER: So you`re saying leave it. I need the sound effect.
HOBBY: Yes, leave it. Leave it.
HAMMER: We need like a double buzzer for that. John, give me your take. I have to believe you`re feeling the same way. Listen, I love it when artists give interviews and they spill and talking about personal stuff, and she was asked the question about it to be sure. But I don`t quite know how to justify it at the same time.
MURRAY: I`ll start with my leave it. Let me tell you. Sound effect. Thank you. She`s 20 years old. She`s not even legally old enough to drink, let alone be talking about using drugs. Do the names Whitney Houston, Amy Winehouse, Janis Joplin ring a bell? We get it, you don`t want to be a Disney star anymore, but forget about encouraging young people, you shouldn`t be encouraging people of any age to use drugs. It`s bad just from inception. Where are the adults who manage her and do her publicity? Are they on drugs too? Somebody is crazy in her camp.
HAMMER: And to just hear her talk about coke that way, saying for people who do coke, what is it, are you like from the `90s? It`s truly bizarre to me. Such big buzz around Miley now. Even Floyd Mayweather wants her on his team. Watch what he just told Kelly Ripa and Michael Strahan.
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MICHAEL STRAHAN: You have celebrities like Justin Bieber and Lil Wayne escort you out to the ring.
FLOYD MAYWEATHER: Cool guys.
STRAHAN: Who do you want next?
MAYWEATHER: Miley Cyrus.
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HOBBY: He wants the foam finger.
HAMMER: Come on now. First over to you, Jen, on this. This could actually happen. Can you see this now? Do we have an imagination of what this would be? I mean, the two of them together. It does look like -- I love that. They look warm and happy together. It worked for Mayweather and Bieber. Why not Miley? Love it or leave it?
HOBBY: I have got to say leave it. No more Miley. I`m over it. Put your tongue away. I am done seeing your tongue for a while.
HAMMER: John.
MURRAY: AJ, I say I love it. You know why? She could leave the boxing match in Vegas, go right up on the strip to that burlesque show, peep show, and just take over the role. She wants to be a porn star, get Vivid on the phone, let`s accept her for who she is. No more drug use, but accept her for the porn star she wants to be.
HAMMER: Let`s bring the lovely Nischelle Turner in this. Nischelle, you know, I actually think John is onto something. Vegas actually would be a perfect outlet for the type of performing we`ve been seeing from Miley lately. She was just there not that long ago. Maybe she should stay.
TURNER: Do I even have to react to Miley Cyrus? Forget John`s wackadoo of the week, she`s knocking on dumb-dumb of the decade.
HAMMER: Does that get a buzzer?
MURRAY: I love it.
TURNER: Buzz. Triple buzz.
HAMMER: Jen, John, and of course, Nischelle, thank you so much.
Here is something we`re definitely loving tonight. We have brand new secrets about what life is like for the "Breaking Bad" actors now that the show is gone forever.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Why are you still alive? Why won`t you just die already? Just die.
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HAMMER: All right. Count me among the millions who thought last night`s series finale was perfect. What is it like to say good-bye to your TV family? Will these guys ever work together again? This guy, the amazing RJ Mitte is right here. He`s going to take us inside "Breaking Bad`s" emotional ending.
Also, we are breaking big baby news tonight. Is Giuliana Rancic have baby No. 2 on the way? Will she reveal all right here on SBT? I am going one on one with Giuliana, and she`s breaking news about her family`s future. And wait until you see what we`ve named as tonight`s moment of awesomeness. This is SBT on HLN.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I did it for me. I liked it.
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TURNER: I must say, Mr. White, I liked it too. Today everyone is still talking about "Breaking Bad`s" final episode, which went out with a bang both in ratings, and yes this is a spoiler alert, on the show too. New numbers out today show last night`s series finale of "Breaking Bad" was its highest rated episode ever, with more than ten million viewers.
HAMMER: It was so good. And even though the show ended well, actor R.J. Mitte, who plays Walt Jr., tells me he has very mixed feelings about saying good-bye to "Breaking Bad."
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HAMMER: What`s really amazing about the show is that "Breaking Bad" truly hit the peak of its popularity in this final season. I have been along for the whole ride, but of course you guys just won that Emmy, and congratulations on that, for the outstanding drama series. I think Bryan was robbed, but the last two episodes also set record ratings. What has that been like for you?
RJ MITTE, ACTOR: It`s been a pleasure. It`s so nice that they are finally getting acknowledged for the work that they`ve done. And all of us. And Albuquerque too. It was such a pleasure being able to be a part of this amazing cast and these amazing people. And everyone that`s on it is so professional and topnotch. I started this show when I was 14 years old. I`m 21 now. I spent my whole adolescence on "Breaking Bad." I have learned -- honestly, I wouldn`t be the same person without the show, I wouldn`t be the same person without Albuquerque. I wouldn`t be the person that has had these opportunities that "Breaking Bad" has given me.
HAMMER: And I`m sure everybody agrees and probably including yourself that this season, you`re doing your best work. I want to watch this clip now from two episodes ago that was particularly wrenching. Your character, Walter Jr., becomes really the last one on the show to find out that his dad was making and selling crystal meth, and his mom was in on it. Roll it out.
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MITTE: You`re saying all this time you were lying about this? So you`re saying you`re a liar. You just admitted it. So were you lying then or are you lying now? Which lie is it?
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HAMMER: That is so powerful, R.J. Look, the character took it about as badly as everybody thought he would. So despite all this tension we saw there and the tears, you and the cast have obviously grown very close. You`ve become a big family over the year, and as you said, you basically grew up with them. I imagine it cannot have been easy to say good-bye to them or the show.
MITTE: You know, it`s still hard. It really is. Everyone`s going their separate ways. Everyone is going to the places they`re going, and we`re done. But while we were filming and what we will take away from this, no one can ever take from us. We had the most amazing experiences on the show. What we were able to do and what we were able to achieve. The characters that we got to portray were amazing. They really were.
HAMMER: Great guy. Nischelle, and I couldn`t have been more pleased with the finale. I think they really pulled it all together and delivered on a promise to bring it home.
TURNER: I need resolution, and they definitely gave us resolution. That`s what I loved about it. Thank you very much, A.J.
Now, "Breaking Bad`s" bid for total global domination continues. Did you see Saturday Night Live over the weekend? Aaron Paul brought the "Breaking Bad" factor to SNL, first show of the season with some amazing cameos. And I kind of think he stole the night. So we`re firing up a special "Breaking Bad" edition of quick hits. John Murray who is the editor in chief of AlwaysAList.com, is here to take it all on in 30 seconds or less. John, let`s get this party started. Aaron Paul showed up at the very end of a funny, crazy commercial spoof for an electronic meth cigarette, just like the e-cigarette, so let`s watch this.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Thanks to e-meth, I can now smoke inside my favorite restaurant.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Excuse me, sir, you can`t smoke meth in here.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It`s OK. It`s electronic.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I don`t care. You`re in my living room and you`re naked.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: E-meth is not for everyone.
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TURNER: The question is, did they make a huge mistake, Saturday Night Live, that is, not playing up the "Breaking Bad" frenzy more? Let`s get this clock ready. Are you ready? You have got 30 seconds. Go.
MURRAY: They absolutely should have played it up more. I mean, it`s a cultural phenomenon. It was the scandal of the summer season. It`s all anybody has been talking about. People have been excited about it. They may have had extraordinary numbers if they would have played it up more. I have to say, he brought good energy to the show. Everything he was in was some of the best skits SNL has had in a long, long time. I didn`t even need the whole 30 seconds.
TURNER: There you go, you did it in 25. Very, very good. OK, so let`s talk Aaron Paul some more. Another one of his cameos is going crazy viral tonight. I`m talking about his appearance on the "Price is Right" from like 10 years ago, when Bob Barker was still hosting the show and nobody even knew who he was. I have to say, this clip is crazy. Watch this.
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BOB BARKER: Actual retail price, $1,797 wins. Let`s get him over here.
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TURNER: This is the best flashback ever. John, 30 seconds. Go.
MURRAY: His "Price is Right" appearance appeared to be an SNL skit. It was so hilarious. It`s the "Price is Right" on steroids. It`s the reason why we watch daytime game shows of this magnitude. Absolutely hilarious. And heck, it could have been the best acting audition of his life, too, because if I didn`t know that man, I`d want to work with him.
TURNER: You didn`t need 30 seconds for that one either. You know, I`ll tell you a little secret, I`ve always wanted to be on the "Showcase Showdown." That`s just my dream. I`m just saying.
MURRAY: You should.
TURNER: John Murray, thanks very much.
HAMMER: Let`s move on from "Breaking Bad" to breaking news. Is Giuliana Rancic dropping some huge baby news right here on SBT?
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HAMMER: I know you have said before that you are hoping for a little brother or sister for Duke, and I know you have chosen this place to break the news on where that is all heading, what`s happening. Go ahead, tell the world, Giuliana.
RANCIC: AJ, you know I love you that much. I come here to break news.
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HAMMER: And I promise you, Giuliana will break news with me. Is there another baby on the way? Wait until you see what we have named as our momentum of awesomeness. This is SBT on HLN.
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HAMMER: I know that you have said before that you are hoping for a little brother or sister for Duke. I know you`ve chosen this place to break the news on where that is all heading and what`s happening. Go ahead, tell the world.
RANCIC: AJ, you know I love you that much. I come here to break news.
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TURNER: All right. What`s going on there? Is reality show star Giuliana Rancic about to break some big baby news with A.J.? Giuliana and Bill Rancic`s son Duke is just adorable. AJ, and everyone`s buzzing about the possibility of them having yet another baby now.
HAMMER: And that`s the big question. Baby Duke is a big part of their reality show, which is now moving from Style Network to E!. That`s going to happen on October 15th. So naturally, I had to ask Giuliana where she and Bill are at with the idea of baby No. 2 now that Duke has celebrated his first birthday. Watch what she told me.
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RANCIC: I have to be honest, that first, before we had Duke, we were like, yes, we want all these kids, and this is so great. It`s a lot of work. That first year is kind of traumatizing in many ways, because you go how do people do this. This is so hard. But now that he`s one, I have to say now our minds are kind of back in the oh, we should do this again. We can handle this. So I promise you, nothing is in motion yet, but very soon. We`re almost at that place. You have to be there mentally. You have to be ready to have a No. 2.
HAMMER: That`s a little important.
RANCIC: Just a little.
HAMMER: And of course, you guys are going to have this great sort of video album for Duke for the rest of his life, because you put your family on television through your reality show. Is this something you`ll potentially continue to do for some time to come, reality television?
RANCIC: I got to say, AJ, we had no idea what we were getting ourselves into when we started seven seasons ago. Which is hard to believe, but it`s been incredible, the fact we`ve been able to do a reality show for seven seasons and not sell out. Not sell our souls to the devil. We put on a very positive, wholesome reality show that people watch. The Style Network is no more. And so our show is now moving to E!, which is super exciting. Yes, we`re in production right now with a brand new season. And it is an incredible video diary for Duke. I mean, I don`t even need to shoot anything anymore. I`m like I don`t even need a video camera because he can just watch all these episodes.
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HAMMER: So great, baby Duke`s life captured on a feel-good reality show. I also like the fact that Giuliana is taking part in a big campaign with General Mills. It`s called Save Lids to Save Lives, and here is how that works.
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RANCIC: Save Lids to Save Lives is fantastic. I remember being in high school and college and saving my little pink Yoplait yogurt lids and mailing them in. All you have to do is go to savelidstosavelives.com and pledge your part.
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HAMMER: Be sure to catch Giuliana and Bill`s reality show on E! on October 15th.
Well, I`m all set to fire up tonight`s moment of awesomeness.
Get ready for Beyonce`s tiny dancer. The 2-year-old who might have a serious chance of becoming Beyonce`s newest backup dancer. I am not kidding, you have to see this little girl`s moves. This is SBT on HLN.
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HAMMER: It`s time for our moment of awesomeness. This is when we reveal the most awesome story of the day.
TURNER: This one is pretty awesome. Tonight we have got Beyonce`s newest and youngest back-up dancer. Come on, somebody has got to get that little 2-year-old girl an audition or at least a play date with Blue Ivy. Let`s sit back and watch her killer choreography.
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TURNER: I don`t even know what to say. She puts me to shame. Look at her. Oh, my gosh.
HAMMER: Thanks so much for watching. I`m A.J. Hammer in New York. You can catch SBT Monday through Thursday at 11:00 p.m. Eastern and Pacific. HLN continues right now.
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