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Where Was the Biebs Sleeping?; Taylor Swift Wins Pinnacle Award; J. Lo Barbie-Doll Lacks Curves; Stars Taking It Off; Interview with Couple Behind Model`s Photoshop Transformation Video
Aired November 07, 2013 - 23:00 ET
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A.J. HAMMER, HOST: Tonight on the "Top Ten Countdown," Bieber in bed. Justin Bieber caught on tape, asleep, with a young woman blowing kisses at him. Is this rock-star behavior or Bieber out of control?
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KATEY SAGAL, ACTRESS: What I feel what you did to me, I could squeeze the swallow out of that pale white throat.
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HAMMER: She is so amazing. Katey Sagal takes no prisoners on "Sons of Anarchy." It`s her latest role in a killer TV career which, of course, includes the iconic Peg Bundy. Well, she is one of Hollywood`s most bankable stars. She`s got a hot new album out. And she`s right here on SBT. We`re one-on-one with the incomparable Katey Sagal.
SBT starts right now.
Hello and thank you for watching. I`m A.J. Hammer along with my guest co- host, Natasha Curry, who of course, anchors "WEEKEND EXPRESS" right here on HLN.
Hey, Natasha.
NATASHA CURRY, CO-HOST: Hey, A.J. What`s up?
We`re kicking off our "Top Ten Countdown" of today`s must-see, must-share stories with No. 10, Biebs` bad (ph) sleepover caught on tape. What happened? The startling tape surfaced today of the Biebs caught sleeping on kind of a ratty-looking bed in Brazil. Right away, people jumped to conclusions and started speculating that he might have been in a suspected brothel. But the story turned out was much different, A.J.
HAMMER: Look at the video. It was a very nice brothel, if it was a brothel. That`s not the case here.
Comedian and "New York Times" best-selling author Heather McDonald is with me in New York, and reality and music star Aubrey O`Day joining us from Hollywood. Her solo debut album is fantastic. It is called, "Between Two Evils."
AUBREY O`DAY, REALITY/MUSIC STAR: Thank you.
HAMMER: So ladies, this video is reportedly of some random girl -- there she is -- shooting herself and recording Bieber while he`s sleeping after a party that he threw. Heather, do you see this as another big Bieber mistake or just pure innocent innocence?
HEATHER MCDONALD, COMEDIAN/AUTHOR: I kind of feel badly that he`s in this day and age of being a rock star. Because of course he`s a rock star. He`s a 19-year-old guy. Of course he`s going to sleep around after a show, whether it`s with a hooker or some girl that saw his show and got lucky. But now everything gets videotaped. Everybody can Instagram a 15-minute video. And so I mean, hey, who cares? I mean, I think this is like -- in all the things he`s done this year, like, this is not a big deal.
HAMMER: He fell asleep after a party. There`s the crime.
MCDONALD: Yes.
HAMMER: Nobody said he was sleeping around with this girl. In fact, TMZ is reporting the contrary to all this online speculation out there. The woman that we see in the video was just one of a whole bunch of people that Bieber invited back to the house he had rented for this after-party.
Aubrey, either way, does this make him look bad to you? You`re a music star. You like to party.
O`DAY: Absolutely not. Who cares if he`s sleeping with somebody? The man is a great artist. He`s great on stage. He`s out touring the world. He`s a rock star right now, and he`s acting like one potentially.
And so what? Let the boy live. He`s sad over Selena. Maybe he needed to get some. Maybe the groupies aren`t going as hard as they used to. You don`t know.
HAMMER: Yes, and I see stuff like that, and I can`t blame him at all for the fact that he reportedly makes people hand over their cell phones and sign confidentiality agreements if they`re going to be hanging out.
But Natasha, in the context of his life over this past year, not so good. I mean, it hasn`t been a great year for him.
CURRY: It`s almost like he needs to police the people around him, to have somebody police them. You know? I feel bad for him. He`s in one of his most vulnerable moments, sleeping. And poor guy. He can`t catch a break.
But I mean, yes, Bieber, he seems to find himself in a potentially compromising position all the time lately or something. But we`ve heard that before, just about pretty much every day this year.
Colleagues, in fact, at HLNTV.com just posted a fascinating look at all the embarrassing situations that the Biebs has found himself in just this year alone. And watching this, you`ll either feel really bad for him or you`re just going to shake your head silently. Watch.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: An outrageous video.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Twitter feud.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Nearly two hours late.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Justin Bieber, pop star turned party king? Or just rebellious teen?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Easy to forget he`s 19 years old.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: An outrageous video posted on TMZ. You can see what appears to be the 19-year-old pop star relieving himself into a mop bucket.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Somebody had to clean that up.
NISCHELLE TURNER, CNN ENTERTAINMENT CORRESPONDENT: A former bodyguard is suing him, claiming the singer assaulted him, charges the Bieber camp denies.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Who can forget the pet monkey that was seized and quarantined in June, and then there were the fights with the paparazzi.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The singer apparently shoves a photographer. The photographer retaliates with a verbal assault, and Bieber bursts out of the van.
JUSTIN BIEBER, POP STAR: (EXPLETIVE DELETED) What you say?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Swedish police seized drugs from his tour bus.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He took time to visit the Anne Frank house in Amsterdam...
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Saying the Holocaust victim would have been a "belieber."
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Bieber got a speeding ticket while trying to outrun the paparazzi.
BIEBER (via phone): They`re the one that are driving reckless and now I`m the one that`s, you know -- and I`m just trying to, like, not have them be on my tail.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The press, the scrutiny, the pressure I think has a lot to do with his behavior lately.
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HAMMER: Yes. And a lot of that behavior not approved, not good to do, but Heather, let`s point out the fact that he is 19 years old. He`s got a gazillion dollars. He`s a big pop star. I`m not talking about the bad behavior, but as far as going out and partying and meeting women.
MCDONALD: Yes, I mean, he`s not a Christian rock person, you know, as if that was his whole thing.
Yes. I guess it`s more shocking to us, because we saw him come up at, like, 14 and it was like so cute and innocent and "I love my mom." Not that he doesn`t love his mom now. But I`m just saying, if it was 20 years ago, we wouldn`t know about any of this stuff. Or ten years ago.
HAMMER: So -- so for falling asleep after a party, lay off, as far as I...
MCDONALD: At least -- yes. She didn`t catch him snoring.
HAMMER: Right.
MCDONALD: He wasn`t throwing up. I mean, he was taking a nap after who knows what?
HAMMER: It`s bad etiquette, though.
MCDONALD: Yes.
HAMMER: We did reach out to Bieber`s camp today, and we`ve repeatedly done that since those brothel reports came out. Once again, that`s what we are hearing by our deadline: basically crickets, Aubrey. Is it time for the Biebs to say something about all of this?
O`DAY: You know, I think it`s always best for an artist to speak through their music and speak through their talent. If you fight every little rumor dead on, you`ll waste so much potential to do so much good with the platform that you have.
I also want to say nobody is addressing all the great things that he`s done, because that`s not what the media is choosing to cover. We don`t know how many hospitals he visits with fans that are sick that couldn`t make it to shows. We don`t know how many great things that he`s going out there and how many people that he`s going out and touching. Like let`s just give the kid a little bit of a break and assume that there are really great things that he`s doing, too, that aren`t being focused on.
HAMMER: You know who is getting that kind of coverage? It`s the anti- Bieber. That`s who`s at No. 9 in our SBT countdown tonight, Natasha.
CURRY: Yes, that`s a good way to say it, A.J.
Country music good girl Taylor Swift, she had a huge night last night. It didn`t involve somebody recording her while she was sleeping, though. Look.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: And now, it is our great honor to present the Pinnacle Award to our friend, Taylor Swift.
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CURRY: Taylor Swift won the super-prestigious Pinnacle Award at the CMA Awards last night. So you`re asking how rare is this kind of honor? Well, only one other person won it: Garth Brooks back in 2005. In fact, SHOWBIZ taught up with Taylor Swift after this honor, and she was just gushing about it, in typically humble fashion, of course.
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TAYLOR SWIFT, SINGER: To be 23 and to win the Pinnacle Award is something I`m so kind of at a loss for words about. It`s amazing. This is kind of like a night you have in your daydreams where everyone is like, everyone you love is there. It just was unreal, honestly.
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HAMMER: She is still so humble. And I believe that humility that`s coming from her. Aubrey, I heard a lot of people today saying, "You know what? She`s only 23. Too young to win such an honor. You put her up there with the likes of Garth Brooks." I say you know what? Look at her lifetime of accomplishments; look at all the good that she`s done; and good for her. What do you think?
O`DAY: Absolutely good for her. Anybody that`s judging her, I would like them to take the stage, write the songs that she writes, and perform the way that she performs.
HAMMER: Yes. And look at what she`s accomplished.
O`DAY: And then have an opinion.
HAMMER: Look at all this. She`s won seven Grammy Awards. She has sold 26 million albums. Her songs have been downloaded an astounding 75 million times. If that`s not a pinnacle, Heather, I quite frankly don`t know what is.
MCDONALD: No, I don`t think age should matter. And especially, she is a young country star that`s become -- that is also crossover pop star. And she`s one of the few pop stars that does write their own music and plays instruments. Like, all these people that are coming up, you know, with singles, they`ll all be auto-tuned or they won`t write their own music. And she`s done it over and over and over again in a really classy, great way.
HAMMER: Classy way, and that brings me to this that I want to play for you. Taylor perhaps getting the ultimate compliment last night from CMA host Brad Paisley. Watch this.
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BRAD PAISLEY, COUNTRY MUSIC STAR/CMA HOST: I just want to say something to Taylor Swift. Taylor, you have grown up right before our very eyes. And I want to thank you from a grateful industry for never humping a teddy bear or gyrating with Beetlejuice. I really appreciate it.
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HAMMER: That is, of course, referring to Miley Cyrus`s twerking act at the VMAs.
Natasha, all kidding aside, great seeing Taylor rewarded for going her own route and not the Miley route.
CURRY: Isn`t it? It`s so refreshing. She`s so classy and so talented. And she`s doing it the way that, you know, we would all hope to do it in that case.
HAMMER: Yes. I think that does deserve rewarding. All right. Thank you, Natasha, for that.
Heather, Aubrey, thank you both so much.
Sweet-as-pie Taylor the polar opposite of Gemma from the hit FX show, "Sons of Anarchy." Well, the star of the cult classic, I think she`d eat Taylor for lunch.
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SAGAL: The way I feel, what you did to me, I could squeeze the swallow out of that pale white throat.
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HAMMER: Well, luckily, real-life Katey Sagal is sweet, too. And she`s right here on SBT. I am so excited to have her here. She is on one of the hottest shows on TV right now. And she`s got a hot new CD. Whew! Call the fire department. Could get dangerous in here.
Plus, stripper chic? Miley Cyrus, Lady Gaga, Rihanna. They do only the most naked things in their videos. But is that who survives? Things are heating up. What`s going to be No. 1 tonight?
This is SBT on HLN.
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SAGAL: I talked to Margaret. Who confirmed what you refused to believe. Honey, it was all a lie. The pregnancy, the miscarriage. Tara (ph) wants out, Jack (ph).
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HAMMER: She makes me nervous. That`s Katey Sagal as very intense Gemma on FX`s hit series, "Sons of Anarchy." Getting all up in Charlie Hunnam`s character`s business there.
That brings us to No. 8 on our "Top Ten Countdown." Katey Sagal is right here with us tonight. "Sons of Anarchy," of course, can be seen Tuesday nights on FX. And Katie has a fantastic new album out called "Covered." It`s going to be available on Monday.
It is a thrill to welcome you to SBT.
SAGAL: Well, thank you so much for having me.
HAMMER: It is absolutely my pleasure.
Let`s just take care of the big gray elephant in the room.
SAGAL: Oh, OK.
HAMMER: And of course, your TV son is played by Charlie Hunnam.
SAGAL: Yes.
HAMMER: Smashing actor.
SAGAL: Yes.
HAMMER: There you are together. Obviously, the world was shocked, aflutter when he dropped out of "50 Shades of Grey." Were you shocked when you found out that he decided not to do the film?
SAGAL: Well, you know, this is the -- this is the thing. I wasn`t shocked, given the reasons that he gave. You know, he`s very busy. He`s really happening right now. And he had another movie booked. He`s a really methodical, well-thought-out guy. I mean, I`m sure he didn`t want to rush anything.
And I actually have not spoken that much to him about it. We haven`t worked on the same days since that all went down, except for one day when the scene -- everything was so heavy on the show. It was the last thing on anyone`s mind.
HAMMER: It wasn`t really what you were talking about.
SAGAL: Yes.
HAMMER: Would you have liked to have seen him do it? Or...
SAGAL: Well, I read half the book. And actually, I don`t know. I mean, no, probably not.
HAMMER: You`d have a whole different view of it, I assume, than anybody else...
SAGAL: Yes.
HAMMER: ... because you know him a bit more intimately.
SAGAL: Yes. I don`t know if I want to see him that intimately. Just...
HAMMER: Fair enough.
SAGAL: I`m sure -- I mean, not that he`s not absolutely fabulously gorgeous. But...
HAMMER: I`m sure he`d offer if, you know...
SAGAL: Probably. Yes.
HAMMER: A lot of down time on the lot, I`m sure.
SAGAL: Maybe.
HAMMER: Well, we do love you in "Sons of Anarchy."
SAGAL: Thank you.
HAMMER: It`s amazing to see the ride that you`re on with that. And of course, the world will always know and love you from "Married with Children"...
SAGAL: Yes.
HAMMER: ... and being the wife of Ed Bundy on the show.
SAGAL: Al Bundy.
HAMMER: Al Bundy. Would you like to take a little trip back in history with me?
SAGAL: OK. I`ll see which one you have.
HAMMER: Let`s do what we came up with -- Charles.
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ED O`NEILL, ACTOR: What did you do with Jasmine?
SAGAL: I didn`t do anything with her.
O`NEILL: You killed her, didn`t you, Peg, because you couldn`t stand to see me happy?
SAGAL: I am Jasmine, you idiot.
O`NEILL: You can`t be Jasmine. Jasmine is a beautiful, alluring woman. You`re -- you`re just a wife.
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HAMMER: First of all, I loved watching that with you, because you just burst out into laughter.
SAGAL: Ed, you know, when I would go to work on that job, Ed would make me fall down laughing every single day at work. He`s a super funny guy.
HAMMER: Yes.
SAGAL: And you know, as Al Bundy he was really funny but just, you know, hanging out with Ed was always fun and funny.
HAMMER: And now, of course, he has another TV wife.
SAGAL: I know.
HAMMER: Sofia Vergara. That must have upset you, though, when he married somebody else.
SAGAL: I know.
HAMMER: You were the original, Katey.
SAGAL: Somebody hot, I know. Yes.
HAMMER: Have you seen the fans are screaming for you to make a guest appearance on "Modern Family"?
SAGAL: That`s what -- you know, a couple of people have said that to me. Well, you know, we`ll see. I don`t know. Ed came on -- I was on a show with John Ritter, and Ed came on that show and he was -- he played my old boyfriend. So we`ve done it before.
HAMMER: Would you do it?
SAGAL: Would I do it?
HAMMER: Yes, if they asked you.
SAGAL: Sure. Absolutely, sure. I love "Modern Family."
HAMMER: Do you know what I love...
SAGAL: I don`t know what they would have me do. But...
HAMMER: I think they`d figure out a funny, funny ride.
SAGAL: yes.
HAMMER: I don`t think people are aware of how accomplished you are as a musician. You got your start as a singer-songwriter. You sang with Bette Midler and, gosh...
SAGAL: Etta James.
HAMMER: ... Bob Dylan and Etta James. And now you have this great CD out called "Covered." It`s going to be out on Monday. You`re doing "Free Fallin`," on the first single; "Going to Take America," which I love your take on that.
SAGAL: Oh, good. I`m so glad.
HAMMER: Do you have a favorite on the album?
SAGAL: Well, I have quite a few favorites. You know, every song was picked for a particular reason. I have a duet I do with Jackson Brown, which was completely thrilling for me. And it`s a Steve Earle song called "Good-bye" that I really, really love. That was fantastic.
And then that Lauren Neil (ph) song was, you know, when I was a kid, Lauren Neil (ph) was kind of the reason that I taught myself to play the piano and write. So I...
HAMMER: You didn`t go out and pick a bunch of songs?
SAGAL: No.
HAMMER: I love that. I actually went on Amazon, and I previewed the whole album, because I didn`t have a copy of it.
SAGAL: Oh, great. They didn`t give you a copy?
HAMMER: Let`s get one.
SAGAL: Guys!
HAMMER: Great having you here, Katey.
SAGAL: Thank you. Thank you so much.
HAMMER: And make sure you pick up Katey`s CD, "Covered." It will be on sale everywhere November 11.
As we move on tonight J. Lo loses her curves? Could it be? Jennifer Lopez is probably most famous for being curvy and proud of it. But suddenly, poof, they`re gone. What is going on? From Jennifer`s vanishing curves to the time-lapse video that is turning our image of models upside-down. This is amazing. Is beauty really in the eye of the computer? Well, the model and her husband that created this video that is taking the world by storm are right here. They`re going to tell us why they did it.
What`s going to be No. 1? This is SBT on HLN.
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HAMMER: So, can Beyonce help you beat breast cancer?
CURRY: Yes, well, maybe not, but one woman decided to get her groove on right before having a double mastectomy. Couldn`t hurt.
HAMMER: Well, Deborah Cohen is that woman. She gets down to "Get Me Bodied" in the O.R. with her medical team just moments before she went under the knife at a San Francisco hospital. And the result is a brilliant, brilliant video.
CURRY: It really is. She`s a brave woman. Our "Top Ten Countdown" continues now with No. 7. Breasts, Beyonce and busting a move.
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CURRY: Lots of love, lots of love. I can beat this. I love it! What a great attitude, isn`t it?
HAMMER: You`ve got to know that there are nerves going on there. People are all sweating and kind of shaking, maybe, a little bit. But good for her for shaking it off like that.
CURRY: I`ve had two friends go through double mastectomies, and they both had great attitudes, just like she did. And it`s inspiring.
And A.J., we`re kicking down the countdown here to overdrive as we head into No. 6. J. Lo loses her curves? Say what?
Yes, Jennifer Lopez has just been immortalized as a Barbie. But -- we love that. But you know, the tiny version, though, of Jenny of the Block kind of seems to be missing from her, you know, famous beautiful backside. Que pasa?
Singer and reality star Aubrey O`Day is back with me from Hollywood. So Aubrey, we all love that Jennifer`s Barbie, you know, is killing it in couture look and fab. But does Mattel kind of need to try again and get the girl`s curves right?
O`DAY: Mattel completely failed with this, in my opinion. I love body. Nowadays, in a culture where we`re embracing curves, we`re embracing booties, we`re embracingall different types of looking women, this is such a disappointment.
J. Lo is legendary for her booty. Everybody knows about that beautiful behind of hers.
CURRY: Yes. And check out this Instagram video that Jennifer posted, a J. Lo Barbie in action. You`re singing on stage just like the real thing.
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CURRY: So beauty, glamour. Movie star. I mean, Jennifer`s life may be better than maybe that Barbie`s dream life. But Aubrey, I mean, curves or no curves, don`t you think that`s really the essence of this great honor for Jen?
O`DAY: Yes. I mean, I`m kind of bummed out. She has definitely a great weave. Her hair looks snatched. But I`m disappointed that the booty is not there.
CURRY: Right, where`s the booty? Aubrey O`Day, thank you so much.
O`DAY: Where is it?
CURRY: A.J., we miss that.
HAMMER: I think the packaging wasn`t big enough, and that was the problem. They had to slim down the doll for the packaging.
Let`s move on now as the talk co-host Sharon Osbourne winds up, leans back, and hurls a massive bomb at "The View." An "F" bomb.
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SHARON OSBOURNE, CO-HOST, CBS`S "THE TALK": (UNINTELLIGIBLE) Barbara, I like her. Divine she is. But children, I love Barbara Walters. The rest can go (EXPLETIVE DELETED) themselves.
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HAMMER: Wow. Well, now there is a new response from one of the ladies of "The View." All`s fair in love and talk shows, right?
Perfect models, perfect bull. This time-lapsed PhotoShop makeover has gotten more than four million hits. It has millions more talking about our ridiculous beauty standards. The model and her husband, who created the video, are right here to tell us how they are changing the game when it comes to beauty.
Which jaw-dropper is going to be No. 1? This is SBT on HLN.
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HAMMER: Right now the "Top Ten Countdown." Stripper chic. So is getting naked really the only way to survive in the brutal world of pop music these days? We all know Miley Cyrus can`t keep her clothes on. But Lady Gaga, Katy Perry and Rihanna are certainly no strangers to getting naked either. So is stripper chic just the new way to stay on top or is it really way too much?
Plus, the amazing viral video of a model`s PhotoShop transformation from just plain beautiful to absolutely perfect. This one is mind-blowing for sure, but for all the wrong reasons.
Tonight, the couple behind the shocking video, Tim and Sally Gifford Piper, are here and will reveal the secrets behind their viral hit. SBT continues right now.
Welcome back. Thank you for watching. I`m so glad to have Natasha Curry here, the anchor of "Weekend Express" here on HLN.
CURRY: It`s great to be with you too, AJ, and we`re counting down today`s top ten, must share stories of the day. It`s time for No. 5, stripper chic.
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CURRY: Got to warn you, Rihanna`s video there for "Pour it Up" is just so racy that we could only really show you about ten seconds of it safely. Think of it, Rihanna versus Taylor Swift, Lady Gaga versus 16-year-old newcomer. What do you think? When it comes to pop music is it really survival of the fittest or the sexiest?
From Washington, we have USA Today entertainment writer Arienne Thompson, and singer and reality star Aubrey O`Day joining us from Hollywood. And her latest album, by the way, is titled "Between Two Evils."
Guys, I don`t have to tell you, Miley Cyrus, she`s the queen of taking it off these days from her VMA twerk fest to her stripdown in "Wrecking Ball," of course. Look.
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CURRY: All right. Aubrey, you`re a musician. Do you have a problem with the whole stripper chic notion?
O`DAY: I don`t. I also don`t think it`s necessary. But we know it helps. But bigger than all of us, I think it`s an artist`s job to push our boundaries, not conform to them. I also don`t think sexuality should be viewed with bad intent. Sometimes people go through a natural progression. And if it makes sense to their artistry, I don`t mind it. Now, there are gimmicks, and there are people that take it too far, and it doesn`t feel like a natural progression of their art.
CURRY: Sometimes it can be forced depending on who it is.
I read your article in USA Today, and I can kind of guess what you`re going to say. What`s your beef with stripping down nearly naked to sell stuff?
ARIENNE THOMPSON, USA TODAY: The thing is, I don`t have a beef with it per se, but do we really need to be licking sledgehammers and riding around on construction equipment? I don`t really think so. Adele has sold a lot of albums and won a lot of Grammys with a lot of clothes on. So I am just saying, you don`t have to do it. I understand it`s a gimmick, just like Aubrey said, but do you have to do it? Absolutely not.
CURRY: Bring it something else -- I mean, could you just stick your tongue out and sell records? I don`t know. Katy Perry, she has done her show of showing off her assets, and now she`s pleading for her fellow pop stars to chill the heck out on the whole stripper chic thing. In fact, here is what she told NPR.
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KATY PERRY, SINGER: I`m not talking about anyone in particular. I`m talking about all of them. It`s like everybody is so naked. It`s like put it away. We know you got it. I got it too.
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CURRY: Put it away. Aubrey, is Katy being unrealistic? Do people need to be flaunting their assets?
O`DAY: I don`t think we need to impose our norms of sexuality on anyone. I think that`s disastrous as well. I believe everyone needs to go on their journey, to each their own, and if you don`t like it, don`t buy it. And if you`re buying it, then don`t complain about it.
CURRY: Britney Spears. She was one of the early pioneers of the whole less is more. That belly button. Oh my goodness, now we`re like ah! But in her new video work bleep, we see her whole dominatrix get-up. In fact, here is what she just told Boston radio station, AMP 103.3.
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BRITNEY SPEARS, SINGER: A lot of sex goes into what I do. But sometimes I would like to just bring it into the old days, when it was like one outfit for the whole video, and you`re just dancing the whole video, and there`s like -- not that much sex stuff going on, and it`s just about the dance.
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CURRY: OK, so about the dance. Britney is talking about a dozen years ago, back when she first came onto the scene. Arienne, to put a spin on the question you asked in your USA Today about stripper chic. Is music now maybe like survival of the fittest or survival of the sexiest?
THOMPSON: It`s hard to say. I think Britney even sounds confused about what`s going on and what she should be doing, because she did the final cut of that video. And it has S&M, it has her whipping women, it has her leading women around on leashes. I don`t think anyone inside of it, unless you have a very clear message like a Lorde (ph) or Adele to say this is what I`m not doing, I think there`s a game to be played and people can even get confused themselves and say I don`t really feel comfortable being in this crop top, but if that`s what I have to do, then that`s what I`m going to do. I think there`s some confusion.
CURRY: And I -- she almost look a little uncomfortable. I kept wanting to go, well, she`s a mom now with two kids. Does that bug you at all watching her video?
O`DAY: I think if Britney wants to take it back to one outfit and really killing it with the dancing, then she is the one that can do it. I think you should just be about what you want to see. I don`t think there`s any norm that any artist has to follow. We`re the creative ones that can explore and present new lanes to the world. I think that you should do that with your music, especially when you have the fan base and the opportunity that Britney Spears does.
CURRY: You have got to say good for them if you feel confident enough to show it off like that. There`s a lot to be said for confidence. People like Taylor Swift seem to be doing well without exploiting her body. But check out what she told SBT just moments after winning (inaudible) award for her impact on country and mainstream music.
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TAYLOR SWIFT, SINGER: This is like a night you have in your daydreams where everyone is like, everyone you love is there. It`s unreal, honestly.
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CURRY: A.J., so refreshing. She`s so classy. Taylor Swift, and she`s making great music too and successful at it.
HAMMER: Absolutely. No matter how people feel about it, stars will continue to take it off and everything seems to be coming down to how it looks. That`s not always the case, except when you`re talking about hair. That`s No. 4 on our countdown. Star hair wars.
CURRY: That`s right. It`s Jenn versus Jenn. Jennifer Aniston, Jennifer Lawrence, they both just revealed some shockingly short hairstyles. Adios, long locks.
HAMMER: This is a bold new look for both. So we got to ask who did it better.
Let me bring back Aubrey O`Day, let me take a good look at you, Aubrey. This is a the shortest I`ve ever seen your now blonde hair. That`s pretty great. So let me get your take on who does this better. Put them up again, Charles.
O`DAY: I`m going to have to go with Jennifer Lawrence. I think she looks beautiful. I love when women take off their hair. It`s empowering. It`s going against the standard definition of beauty that society has right now, and I think it`s freeing and it really makes you trust things other than your hair, like your mind. So good for them and good for her. I think she looks amazing.
HAMMER: Let me throw a twist in the whole short hair war that`s going on. We have another Jennifer. Let`s see what Jennifer Hudson is looking like. She just debuted a very short pixie do. Wow, I think she looks amazing here. I don`t know. Did she outdo the other two here?
O`DAY: Absolutely. She`s a beautiful woman. And she has beautiful style. I think that she killed everybody. She looks phenomenal. I might do that next.
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HAMMER: I`d like to see that, actually. Typically -- well, we`ve seen you in the red hair and we`ve seen the super long hair. But when it comes to Jennifer Aniston, anything she does to her hair, it becomes a trend. Everybody follows her. Of course, it all started off with the Rachel. So do you think this new do of hers now will get people running for the scissors?
O`DAY: I think so. Before her we had Miley, and before everybody, we had Rihanna and we had people like Cassie (ph). There are a lot of people that are taking risks with their hair. I am so happy that we are taking it off. I think we should get rid of the weaves. Thank God mine is out. I can finally sleep peacefully at night.
HAMMER: Works very well for you, Aubrey. Thanks for being here. I appreciate it.
O`DAY: Thank you, AJ. Miss you.
HAMMER: Miss you too, we`ll be together next time in the same studio. Be sure to grab Aubrey`s solo debut, "Between Two Evils," it`s fantastic and it`s out right now.
And now here comes what on the countdown.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: (inaudible), she changes boyfriends like she changes her underwear. She`s 13. You got strawberry flavor (ph).
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HAMMER: It`s the Honey Boo Boo family big, how should I say this, slip on the set of talk TV king Steve Harvey show. Is Honey Boo Boo about to overtake the countdown like she overtook Steve there? Plus, the viral Photoshop transformation of a model`s body from amazing to absolutely perfect. Maybe even more eye-opening than the Honey Boo Boo`s family big oops tonight. Nearly five million people have been stunned by this video. The couple who made it are right here to reveal the dirty secrets of Photoshop. What`s going to be No. 1? This is SBT on HLN.
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HAMMER: We`re down to No. 3 on our top ten countdown. And I love this. It`s the amazing viral video of a model`s Photoshop transformation from her natural beauty self to magazine ready cover girl. It was made to send a very powerful message. Watch this.
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HAMMER: That is exactly how it happens in the beauty industry every day. Sally Gifford Piper is the model in the video. She joins me now with her husband, Tim Piper, who directed the video. First of all, great to meet you. I`m so pleased you did this. And Sally, for years here on SBt, I`ve been beating the drum about these unrealistic images, particularly for women, that they feel they need to live up to. Is that why you did this?
SALLY GIFFORD PIPER, MODEL: Exactly. We all know Photoshop happens. It`s just wanted to draw attention to the fact that it`s really harmful for women. We can`t live up to the standard of perfection.
HAMMER: When you watch the video and you see what goes into it -- we all know that there`s a little nipping and tucking and perhaps taking out some wrinkles. But I don`t think people have any idea they are literally taking layers off of a person`s body.
TIM PIPER, DIRECTOR: They transform them completely. I think what people need to realize when they change the body shape of someone, that becomes a little unfair. Because you have very thin models that might have the tall legs, but they certainly won`t have the healthy glow. This is a video that sort of shows what happens all over the place.
HAMMER: You looked so terrific before they even took the Photoshop brush to you. And then in 36 seconds, we see you go from this natural beauty to what people think is natural beauty. Were you shocked when you saw the final result?
GIFFORD PIPER: I was. I was a little bit sad, I realized how far away I am from that. But this whole experience, all the positive feedback I`m getting has been really empowering.
HAMMER: The video has been viewed nearly five million times.
GIFFORD PIPER: Way more than that.
PIPER: Around 16 million.
HAMMER: 16 million. I didn`t do my math right.
PIPER: You did. There was a user that took it down after ten million or something. So that`s been out there.
HAMMER: That has to feel good for you. A big part of why you decided to get this video out there was this sort of movement to have some kind of a disclaimer put on photos like this of women who have been severely altered by Photoshop. Do you actually see a day when that`s happening?
PIPER: I do. I think that there`s going to be a tipping point. I mean, we`re starting a Kickstarter campaign to create a film about it, and there`s the global democracy site that people can go to to vote for things like this, so I think that as soon as people decide now is the time, I think they will act. And I think videos like this can help.
HAMMER: I hope so, I don`t know. I don`t know if that`s a realistic thing, but this definitely pushes it in the right direction. So we saw you made taller, thinner, your eyes got bigger. How did it make you feel about yourself?
GIFFORD PIPER: You know what, it was difficult at first. Btu it ultimately just made me kind of angry and want to stand up for girls everywhere. I think I`m good enough. And I`m sure a lot of -- women are always good enough. So let`s not strive for something we`ll never achieve.
HAMMER: Let`s hope it works. Thank you guys for doing this video. Thank you for joining me. I appreciate it.
GIFFORD PIPER: Thank you.
HAMMER: We`re now down to the top two must see, must share stories on our countdown. What could possibly be No. 1 after that? Don`t move. We`ll show you next. This is SBT on HLN.
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HAMMER: Can you feel it? We`re so close to revealing what`s No. 1. on our top 10 countdown. But first, it`s No. 2. A talk show showdown. Ladies of "The Talk," including Sharon Osbourne, were asked by Arsenio Hall on his late-night show what`s the difference between their show and "The View." That`s all Sharon had to hear.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I always say "The View" has changed over the years as the players have changed.
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SHARON OSBOURNE: Cut to the chase. Stop being polite. Cut to the (EXPLETIVE DELETED) chase. The situation is --
ARSENIO HALL: Why don`t you tell it.
OSBOURNE: The situation is, Barbara, I idolize her. Divine, she is super human. I love Barbara Walters. The rest can go [EXPLETIVE DELETED] themselves.
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HAMMER: I have to tell you, I would never expect that from Sharon Osbourne. I can`t believe she swore on television.
HEATHER MCDONALD, COMEDIAN: She never does.
HAMMER: For shame. Comedian Heather McDonald, good to have you back on. Do you think the ladies of "The View" -- I don`t think that they will respond? But do you think they should respond?
MCDONALD: No, I don`t think they should. They were there first, you know. Also, I`m kind of surprised she would say that about Whoopi. I ALSO feel like Whoopi`s kind of that person you don`t want to mess with. I think she actually was kind of buzzed on Arsenio and forgot she should probably give (inaudible) to Whoopi too. Whoopi kind of scares me.
HAMMER: Whoopi and her apparent friend Jenny McCarthy, who of course is the latest member.
MCDONALD: I think she was just trying to lighten up the mood and have some fun on the show and -- also probably get some controversy, even if it wasn`t premeditated.
HAMMER: Jenny has actually responded. She told "Entertainment Tonight" this, "Sharon and I have been friends for a very long time. I love Sharon and I love The Talk. She sent me flowers two weeks ago." Maybe Sharon should apologize to Jenny. I don`t know.
MCDONALD: I don`t think she`s going to apologize either. But I think she likes to be controversial. And I think this only helps to get people wondering, should I start watching "The Talk" more, because "The View" has lost viewers.
HAMMER: That was a great TV moment, but I don`t think it quite compares to what I`m about to bring. Hang on to your seat, because we`re ready to reveal what`s our No. 1. in our top 10 countdown. At No. 1, Honey Big Boo Boo. Yes, Honey Boo Boo was just on Steve Harvey`s show. Her sister Chickety decided it was an all right time to pass some gas. So she did. So the giggles and yes, more gas, ensued.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Pumpkin (ph) changes boyfriends like she changes her underwear. She`s 13. You got--
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I know you don`t want to hear this. I just farted.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The whole time --
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: As soon as I hit the buzzer, I farted.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I was letting you know ahead of time.
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HAMMER: The look on Steve Harvey`s face there was priceless. That`s unbelievable. OK. Pun time now. Honey Boo Boo and her big sister had a gas on Steve Harvey Show. They raised a big stink. That was the best I could come up with. Your turn.
MCDONALD: First of all, I`m not a fan of the show.
HAMMER: Honey Boo Boo, let`s be clear, not Steve Harvey.
MCDONALD: (inaudible) they`re family, but I really think they`re kind of gross. But I`ve got little boys. They do that thing where they fart and then they throw it at me. Thank God I don`t have a reality show. They are being themselves and that`s who they are. But the best was Steve`s reaction, because it really is so gross to see that on TV or with other people.
HAMMER: (inaudible), but at one point they got wind of the fact Steve wasn`t amused by it all. Look at this.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: That was not me.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Oh my God, it stinks really bad.
STEVE HARVEY: This is not my show anymore. My show is just falling all off the cliff.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Honey Boo Boo meets Steve Harvey, and we took over.
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HAMMER: Eventually he laughed it off, but you`re not calling this great TV. You`re saying it`s deeply horrifying?
MCDONALD: I`m not into the reality shows about gross poor people. I`m sorry, I`m sorry, I`m just going to say it. It`s not my favorite kind of reality show.
HAMMER: To be clear, they were there advertising exactly what they do. Heather, it`s great to see you. Thanks. k
Our countdown may be over but the SBT magic, that`s not over. Oh, no. This is just awesome. Get ready for one of the most amazing Disney inspired viral videos we have seen in a long time. It`s a message or I guess I should say a song in a bottle that`s going to make your night. I guarantee it. This is SBT on HLN.
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HAMMER: Time now for our moment of awesomeness. This is why we have this segment. Natasha, this is one of the coolest Disney inspired viral videos ever. May not look like much at first. You got five guys in the pool, a bunch of weird looking bottles. But these guys are truly master musicians in disguise.
CURRY: Aren`t they, AJ? They are called the Bottle Boys. And they can play those bottles that you`re looking at like a Stradivarius or something. But they are not taking on concert hall classics, obviously. They just laid down a brand new version of the "Little Mermaid`s" "Under the Sea." It`s absolutely amazing. I don`t know how they get so much out of so little. Watch.
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CURRY: A.J., I`m in love. I wonder if they can do it with wine bottles and how many people at home are doing that.
HAMMER: I want a beer. In fact, I want a 12 pack.
Thank you so much for watching. Go catch one yourself, and catch SBT every Monday through Thursday, live at 6:00 p.m. Eastern and again at 11:00 p.m. Eastern and Pacific. HLN continues right now.
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