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King Charles III Shows Emotion As Royals Say Goodbye To Queen; Royals Show Emotion As They Say Goodbye To Queen; Royal, World Leaders, Massive Crowds Say Goodbye To Queen; Britain Pays Final Respects To The Queen; Royal Corgis Welcome Queen's Coffin At Windsor. Aired 12-12:30p ET
Aired September 19, 2022 - 12:00 ET
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MAX FOSTER, CNN ANCHOR: Feeling the full wait of that in that moment, this last 10 days has been about the transfer of power in many ways. The Duke and Duchess of Sussex there, I have to say that Duchess was really move during the service. There were a few tears in her eyes. You know, so much as you know, she's been through with his family, but she always stayed very loyal to the Queen, as did Prince Harry.
So, let's hope, you know, there's a coming together with the family as well, as a result of this. They've certainly, or you know, it's all been about the Queen and focusing on the Queen and making sure that she's the center of everything here. And I think the Queen has got to be really pleased. And you think with what came out of all of this.
CLARISSA WARD, CNN CHIEF INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: But she played such a role in orchestrating how everything would look down to which piper would be playing which song. And one would imagine or hope that she would be quite touched to see not just the exemplary way in which things have been carried out, but also the enormous outpouring of support from across the country, across the world, all those hundreds of thousands who have come to London and Windsor, to try to catch a glimpse to pay their last (crosstalk)
FOSTER: Almost success as well, you know, if you remember back to Prince Philip's memorial at St. Paul's. They were given very junior back seats at that event because they were no longer working royals and Prince William was obviously right at the front. This has been very different. They've almost, you know, they've been there front and center, the Sussex's throughout, and that would have been the king's decision. The Yorkshire Prince Andrew's children and I think that's (crosstalk)
ANDERSON COOPER, CNN HOST: And perhaps, the Queen herself would have weighed in on previous ones.
FOSTER: I mean, he is the one that signed off on it, and he's putting them right there. I think that's a big gesture from the king actually, we'll wait to see how the Sussex is follow up.
COOPER: I don't want to be delicate to bring it up. But that you're said that there's now a gathering - a private gathering for other members of the royal family for royal family members from other countries in Europe. Is that something that Sussex would go to the (crosstalk)
FOSTER: Yes. There were going in the same direction, I think so definitely. And then they live just down the road on the estate.
KATE WILLIAMS, CNN ROYAL COMMENTATOR: And on the chapel, for which the Queen will be buried this evening, the George VI memorial chapel. It is inscribed with give me light, that I may tread safely into the unknown. A poem read by her father, in his 1939 Christmas speech that she possibly gave him a great message to remember. As we see the other members of the (crosstalk)
WARD: Prince Michael of Kent is late Queen's cousin.
FOSTER: What time do they return? And what do we know about the service that takes place that privately?
COOPER: This evening, I think, early evening---
WARD: Duchess of York with Beatrice and her husband Edoardo, and obviously the Duchess of York has not been - she wasn't the sermonish. She hasn't been in the public mourning in the car. But she has been invited to the sermonish.
FOSTER: So, she - when we had news on where the corgis were going, it was - the Duchess of York used to go until very recently on walks very often with the Queen, they remain close, she says.
WILLIAMS: And that's Zara and Mike with their eldest daughter, this Princess Anne's daughter. Zara also one of the Princess keeping vigil that, oh, Princess vigil now featured the princesses including (Inaudible) and Zara, keeping vigil over their grandmothers.
WARD: You had said previously chose not to have her children have royal titles. Do we know what is this?
FOSTER: They're not prince and princess because they're not - they are not in the male line, Princess Anne. But Anne also decided not to give them other types of that she is a Dutcher.
WILLIAMS: That is what she wish to - she was happy with that.
FOSTER: And actually, they've been - they've had very successful careers, and they've carved out their own niche, and they're very happy with what they've got.
COOPER: I assumed that was sort of her idea and not giving them royal title is to have them sort of feel like----
FOSTER: But they weren't going to get funding for their work. They had to go out and make their own money, you know, the molecule was being splint slimmed down. And I think Zara - we're looking Zara to go now is to continue that love of horses to take on a lot of the racing world, which was the Queen's and she's very involved in that. I think that's where she will move next.
WILLIAMS: So, for the public, from what the public will see, this is really over.
FOSTER: Yes. This is them walking off into the castle, the end of an extraordinary period of mourning, slightly longer than we actually expected. And a process where we were introduced to the new king every other day. If you look at the way the events were laid out, and then remembering the former Queen, the monarch on other days, and now it's for the king to go forward.
I think tomorrow will feel like we've waken up from some sort of dream. It'll be quite extraordinary because there's a lot of problems in this country, but we haven't literally been thinking about them for the last.
WILLIAMS: And that's Princess Margaret's son Lord Snowdon, just getting into the car and his children as well and Lady Sarah Chatto, really all the members of the royal family here. They're supporting the Queen. It's such a significant moment. And the following of royal families of which she's related to nearly all of them were spent in Europe, will be there supporting them as well. We will never see such a meeting of international royals, such a meeting of international heads of state ever again.
FOSTER: So, let's go back to Erin Burnett.
ERIN BURNETT, CNN ANCHOR: So, Anderson obviously, the next event here is going to be the private burial for the Queen when her casket, as Max was explaining will be raised and brought to - finally be laid to rest along with that of Prince Philip. And Christiane, obviously here in these next, the family's going to reception, that's what we're looking at right now.
These cars one after another going there as well as walking. You just saw Zara and Mike Tindall and their daughter along with the Fergie, and her daughter and her husband. All now heading to this next, it seems like some sort of a family reception as a - in between event.
CHRISTIANE AMANPOUR, CNN CHIEF INTERNATIONAL ANCHOR: And of course, as we mentioned, there'll be quite a lot of the other royals, the suddenly the European royals, and you know the Queen and her family are related to, through all sorts of different bloodlines and connections mainly, or principally anyway. And recently, through Queen Victoria, I mean, reached even as far as the then Tsar Nicholas II of Russia. And so just to explain how there are so many royal families around the world, not just coming because they are also heads of state, but because they are also family.
BURNETT: And this was of course, the family service. So, this very large, extended family, Richard, now is going to be - all going together to this reception.
RICHARD QUEST, CNN ANCHOR & CORRESPONDENT: Yes. The crowned heads, the remaining crowned heads of Europe, the Netherlands, Belgium, Spain, Norway, Sweden, they are all very close, as royal families. Particularly and interestingly, the next generation down have remained very close. So, they will all talk affectionately, of Charles and Camilla. And of course, even those who have who are no longer, I'm thinking of Constantine of Greece.
AMANPOUR: He was there.
QUEST: He was there, very close to the Queen, a very close. So, you have numerous pillars here, you have official, you have royal, you have family, you have all these people.
AMANPOUR: And really interestingly, of course, King Constantine and his wife, Queen Anne-Marie, are no longer actual monarchs, because there was a revolution in their country in the 60s. And but he's kept the titles. He's actually been allowed to go back to Greece, but he's not by any stretch of the imagination, a lot of working royal or anything like that. But just to say that even the other European royals, they have a much more pared down version of royalty.
And version of even mingling with the people and getting to, you know, know the people on those big, big occasions that the British royal family does. And I think, you know, throughout the years and throughout the sort of ages, one has asked, would there be a recalibration of the British royal family. So clearly, not during these last 10 days, and not during the lifetime of Queen Elizabeth II, but many have suggested that there will probably be a conversation on the future of the British monarchy, it'd be really interesting.
QUEST: Well, we saw something akin to this. After Diana's death, when there was a feeling that there needed to be more of a slimmed down monarchy, and the way forward group was put together by the Queen, which was ways in which we can modernize, but the difficulty has always been, how do you slim it down? When you've got so many charities that require patrons, so many events that have to be done, as it is?
They've now, I mean, not being crude, but they've now lost the queen. They've lost Philip. Harry (Inaudible) is no longer involved in doing royal duties. (crosstalk). That parceling out, all these patronages and all these do---
AMANPOUR: Interestingly because Prince Charles when he was Prince Charles, Prince of Wales worked with the Queen and the household to actually do a certain amount of slimming down. So, there was a certain amount of slimming down done already. But again, this is a much more ceremonial heavy royal family than any other in the world that I can think of off the top of my head.
BURNETT: What we are watching now, of course, as the crowds are still there and there's going to be the private burial. What we're watching, you just saw that ceremony. One of those moments as Prince Charles sort of seemed to tear up a bit. When you saw the head of household, break the ceremonial, the wand, right. This is over and we will now pass this (crosstalk)
AMANPOUR: To be honest with you, to watch the coffin disappear. That does have an impact. To watch it so slowly.
BURNETT: And Christiane, make this point, we are not going to see that moment replay. That was just - they chose to share that very private moment with the world and it was that, a live moment.
QUEST: What interesting to see, I think he will, weather King Charles III reappoints David Manning as Lord Chamberlain, because the ceremonial breaking of the wand is signifies the end of his commissioners, Lord Chamberlain, which is the head of the household, basically the CEO.
AMANPOUR: And he, of course, was the former head of (Inaudible)?
QUEST: Absolutely. And the feeling is he will be reappointed because the thought is Charles was very much involved in the decision that David Manning will become Lord Chamberlain.
BURNETT: And also, when you see and think about what we are witnessing, the sort of the reuniting of the Queen with Prince Philip.
AMANPOUR: And her parents and your sister.
BURNETT: And you know, today, her funeral at Westminster Abbey where she was coronated, where she married him. And now tonight, they will be again reunited in this physical way (crosstalk) very symbolic way. Isn't it?
AMANPOUR: Is it. And you have a daughter. And we know that this kind of story, yes, it may be anachronistic, but it's still survived. But it's lauded and reproduced over and again in our culture. This is the story that Disney, that all these films and theaters have focused on for all these decades. So, for culture, it's clearly a very attractive phenomenon.
BURNETT: Yes, it is. An archetype in its own way that we live and are still living. As we are watching this, knowing the family of course is at this reception and getting ready for the final, for the burial of Queen Elizabeth II in just hours. There's so much more ahead on the powerful images that we have seen already today. And what happens next. Charles III, now moving into his future.
DON LEMON, CNN HOST PRIMETIME: Queen Elizabeth II now back at Windsor Castle and the countryside that she loves so much. This really is capping off a day of royal pageantry and mourning. There has been one spectacular image after another and very emotional. That you see King on your screen now, that's King Charles. The royal family are now facing what may be the most painful part of this funeral day. Bearing the woman, they loved as their mother and grandmother as well as their Queen. Let's get straight now to Isa Soares. She is with a family, a family waited on the streets of Windsor to see the Queen's coffin passed by. Isa, I understand that you're at the top of the long walk near Windsor Castle. What are families saying to you?
ISA SOARES, CNN ANCHOR & CORRESPONDENT: So many people, Don, have been so moved by seeing of course the Queen's passed by, but also by the silence. I think it's something that caught many people here. I'm here with the fall of family, who were locals here to Windsor, who know this area very well. Matt, can you give us a sense of what it felt like to be here?
MATTHEW FOWLER, PAID TRIBUTE AT WINDSOR: Well, it was quite an amazing moment but at the same time it was sad. My family requite connected to the Queen like. We went to the royal school, which is located in the Great Park. And well, some of my family have actually seen the royal family.
SOARES: Yes, your sister, right? You actually sang for her majesty the Queen. Tell us about what that was like.
GRACE FOWLER, PAID TRIBUTE AT WINDSOR: That was quite a magical moment as well. We got to sing for the Queen. And it was really nice to just kind of in a way say thank you for all that they've chose, she's done. And it's really nice.
SOARES: And Emily, what did it mean for you? How special was this moment?
EMILY FOWLER, PAID TRIBUTE AT WINDSOR: It was quite magical. Seeing the coffin was about 2000 people.
SOARES: Lots of people here isn't it paying their respects to her majesty. How did it mean? What did it mean for you, mom? I know you're local or whatever else that was it.
RACHEL FOWLER, PAID TRIBUTE AT WINDSOR: I think it's really special to be here. It's an honor. And I'm really thankful that the children can be here I think you know, the Queen has been a great witness to us all throughout her life. She has been steadfast and brought calmness - calm to the country and stability to the country over many years. And for most of us, we don't know what life's like without having a Queen raining. So, it was really special to be here today to be able to pay respect and in our local town as well. As you know, the Queen in Windsor always has a special place in our hearts for the locals here, I think?
SOARES: Thank you very much, you will really appreciate it. And Don, it's a message that you and I of course, have been hearing it throughout as the Queen makes, what was really her final journey here. And one person I think summed it up really well for me today. There was I think we did the Queen proud. And by the numbers you saw here on the long walk it really truly it's a sign of true love and devotion. Respect to the late Queen. Back to you, Don?
LEMON: All right. Isa, thank you very much. The mother, they're really summing things up here today. I think she put it all into perspective for us, right? And it felt like a family affair to people who were involved, even if they were, you know, didn't have a real attachment to the Queen.
SALLY BEDELL SMITH, AUTHOR "ELIZABETH THE QUEEN": Yes. I mean, I was struck when she said that she went to the royal school when the Queen was a princess, and they were having pantomime shows at Christmas time. The kids from the royal school were also with them. But you know, she just spoke in a very straightforward, very emotional way what the Queen would appreciate.
LEMON: Let's talk about the emotional moments and the really extraordinary moments today. You had the imperial crown, the moving of that the orb and the scepter. And also, the coffin being lowered into the royal vault, Trisha, and that was you could see on the king's face reality.
TRISHA GODDARD, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Look, anyone who's been to a funeral of a loved one, that moment where the coffin goes into the ground is like a punch to the gut, emotionally. And the king's face summed it up. I mean, for me, that really gave me a lump in the throat. And I think, it reminds us, and one of the things that I think that's important about this, it reminds us about life and death, and the natural way of things. So, we don't often talk about grief.
I know Anderson's mentioned this many times, we don't talk about grief. And to seek for me to see our future monarch, not be afraid of showing his grief on his face. I think that is incredibly powerful.
LEMON: I don't think he had a choice today. I think it was so - I was I have no connection to the world.
ZAIN ASHER, CNN ANCHOR: One of the sort of hardest things about being a member of the royal family is that, yes, in a sense, you are a private person, but you also in a weird way are indeed, public property in a sense. And there were so many moments this past week, where I've almost felt as though I'm intruding on a private moment of grief. When you think about King Charles and what he's been through over the past week, he really hasn't had a moment himself to actually mourn the death of his mother, with time in private.
It was the accession Council Declaration the Saturday after his mother passed away. It was the speech yet to get it's traveling from Scotland to Wales, from Balmoral greeting mourners who have been waiting for 24 hours, just before just last night, he was greeting heads of states from all around the world, entertaining them essentially the day before his mother's funeral. So, I just sort of think that the courage that King Charles has displayed, should really be talked about and also the courage of Princess Anne as well through, oh, yes.
LEMON: Well, here's the thing for me, and we were talking about grief, right and not sharing it with you. Anderson has this beautiful podcast that he's doing, which explains it well. But for me, everyone talks about the emotion of the coffin, and I understand that because I've been there before. But it was, as you pointed out, and you both of us looked at when they were leaving in the cars, the family members, because that's when it really sets in when everybody goes away. And it's in those quiet moments where it's just you, or just maybe another member of your family where the reality really sets in.
BURNETT: And we didn't see the coffin lowered into the vault and their family were watching there. And I think what we saw there was deep grief etched on the king's face. And that moment of reality, not only of loss, but of the significance of the transition now for him. For me, this managed to be both momentous, but also incredibly moving. And there was a moment in one of the prayers, the fever of life is over. And our work is done.
And I think, as we saw that the crown and the orb and the scepter being removed from her coffin, and then placed at the altar, and now they're in wait, of course, for the coronation of King Charles. It was that moment I think when you realized her work is finally done. And for the last 10 days, she's still been working even after death, and it's been so public and now the private moments and the private grief.
LEMON: Every Listen, she was the architect, the principal architect of everything today. She wanted her beloved animals. She play roles, which I was very heartening to me. Her favorite horse Emma, and then she had her surviving corgi, Sandy and Muick, and they were part of the this as well.
BEDELL SMITH: Totally I character. The fell pony Emma was a corgi. She was riding Emma even as recently as last spring. And I remember when she switched from riding on regular horses to her fell ponies, which are only 14 hands high. And her the manager of her royal stud said to me, well, they're, you know, they're nice squat animals and they're very safe conveyances because you never wear a hard hat.
LEMON: Why don't you want them in this part of the ceremony, you think as opposed to seeing being seen earlier?
GODDARD: Goodbye. To say goodbye. I love it. I absolutely love it. She was very passionate, very passionate about rescue dogs, as we've heard before, very passionate about horse racing. She was talking to her horse racing managers both in the U.K. and in Australia, practically up until she passed away. So, she was so passionate about animals. So, I mean, who wouldn't? Actually, I am sure up and down the country and we will start seeing more people have their pets at their graveside. Why not? Why not because dogs or horses (crosstalk)
LEMON: Well, I said, ah, because they're saying goodbye to (Inaudible)
ASHER: And Prince William has said that they are going to be spoiled rotten because they would gifts, two of her corgis were gifts from Prince Andrew to the Queen and now they're going to return to Prince Andrew and also Sarah Ferguson is going to be helping take care of them as well.
LEMON: What happens to Emma? Where does Emma go? Do we know? GODDARD: Well, the only royal children, they all ride as well.
BEDELL SMITH: Also, Edward and Sophie's daughter is a rider, she may be riding those fell pony. She's already driving the carriages that Prince Philip.
SOARES: I would say as well, these have been her companions, her final companions after the loss of Prince Philip II, so among everybody. These are the people that have kept her company of the past few months.
GODDARD: And there's nothing like just holding or sitting on an animal or stroking a dog when you feel alone. There's nothing like it. So, they don't bark.
LEMON: Well, as you know the animals are family members, but there were actually human family members that we need to pay attention.
SOARES: That 13 at one point in the (crosstalk) it was like a moving carpet (crosstalk).
LEMON: She recently lost her cherish Datsun corgi mix last summer. And so, she had a buried it, broke with tradition has buried, candy buried at Windsor. So that's an interesting. But let's talk about the human family members because we saw them leaving as we said, this was the beginning of the new monarchy, right? You saw the king, and then the Queen consort. And then you saw William and the princess as well getting into the car and Meghan and Harry. This is all - and this was - did you find it interesting that Meghan and Harry were in front and center or is that because of succession?
BEDELL SMITH: I think it was probably a little bit of both. I think it would have been hard for them to have been relegated someplace else. But you know, I think there have been jesters, certainly initially from the king, to at least encourage them to have better relations and everything else. You know, with having the two children there was an emphasis on the succession and the continuity.
LEMON: I just wonder if this is the beginning of something else when it comes (crosstalk) why?
GODDARD: No. I really, really hope that it is - I really do and I believe it's the new beginning.
LEMON: We do. We'll see. Coming up, the most unexpected moments we saw today and we're going to hear from more people who waited hours to honor the Queen one last time. We'll back in a moment.