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The Funeral of Pope Francis; Universal Prayer: The Prayer of the Faithful; Liturgy of the Eucharist: Eucharistic Prayer III; Final Commendation and Farewell: Litany of the Saints. Aired 5-6a ET

Aired April 26, 2025 - 05:00   ET

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ROSELYNE DE FERAUDY, PRAYER LEADER (through translator): ROSELYNE DE FERAUDY, PRAYER LEADER (through translator): For the late Pope Francis, that the Chief Shepherd, who eternally lives to intercede for us, may welcome him into his kingdom of light and peace. Let us pray to the Lord.

Lord, hear our prayer.

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FERAUDY (through translator): For the holy Church of God, that in fidelity to her mandate, she may be, in Christ, a leaven of renewal in our human family.

Let us pray to the Lord.

Lord, hear our prayer. For all peoples and nations. That by the tireless pursuit of justice, they may be ever united in fraternal love and persevere in seeking the path of peace. Let us pray to the Lord.

Lord, hear our prayer for the souls of the deceased Roman Pontiffs and of all those who in the Church proclaimed the Gospel and exercised the priestly ministry, that they may come to share in the heavenly liturgy. Let us pray to the Lord.

Lord, hear our prayer. For all the faithful departed, that they may be granted entrance into the Kingdom of heaven. Let us pray to the Lord.

Lord, hear our prayer. For us gathered here, that having celebrated the sacred mysteries, we may one day be called by Christ to enter his glorious kingdom. Let us pray to the Lord.

Lord, hear our prayer. God, our salvation, hear us as we make our prayer in union with the Blessed Virgin Mary and all the Saints: welcome into the assembly of your elect the soul of your servant and our Pope Francis, who put his trust in the prayer of the Church. Through Christ our Lord. Amen.

(MUSIC PLAYING) CHRISTOPHER LAMB, CNN VATICAN CORRESPONDENT: So we now move to the part of the mass which is known as the offertory. And here the preparation of the bread and wine which will be consecrated takes place.

The bringing up of the gifts, the chalice that will be used by Cardinal Re as he presides at the mass. And the choir will sing as we move into a different part of the liturgy.

This is moving into the most solemn part of the funeral mass, where the cardinals, Cardinal Re presiding, will consecrate the bread and wine, which Catholics believe becomes the body and blood of Jesus Christ. So we're now into the holiest part of the service.

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LAMB: What did you say?

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LAMB: We're now moving into the Offertory, the presentation of the bread and wine, the chalice, the preparation of the bread and wine, which will be consecrated by the cardinal presider and the other cardinals and bishops.

This is the most solemn part of the mass that we're entering into. The bread and the wine is consecrated. And Catholics believe that this becomes the body and blood of Jesus Christ.

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You can see Cardinal Re taking the chalice, presenting the chalice there as he prepares for what is the most solemn part of this service.

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CARDINAL GIOVANNI BATTISTA RE (through translator): Pray, brethren, that my sacrifice and yours may be acceptable to God, the almighty Father. May the Lord accept the sacrifice at your hands for the praise and glory of his name, for our good and the good of his holy Church.

Look with favor, we pray, O Lord, on the peaceful offering of your people, with which we confidently commit to your mercy the soul of your servant, Pope Francis, and grant, we pray, that, having been in the midst of the human family, an instrument of your charity and peace, he may merit to delight in the same, forever with all your Saints.

Through Christ our Lord, amen.

The Lord be with you and with your spirit. Lift up your hearts. We lift them up to the Lord. Let us give thanks to the Lord our God. It is right and just. It is truly right and just, our duty and our salvation, always and everywhere to give you thanks, Lord, holy Father, almighty and eternal God, through Christ our lord. In him the hope of blessed resurrection has dawned, that those

saddened by the certainty of dying might be consoled by the promise of immortality to come. Indeed for your faithful, Lord, life is changed, not ended.

And when this earthly dwelling turns to dust, an eternal dwelling is made ready for them in heaven. And so, with Angels and Archangels, with Thrones and Dominions and with all the hosts and Powers of heaven.

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We sing the hymn of your glory. As without end. We acclaim.

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LAMB: OK, so we're about to hear Cardinal Re say the words of the Mass of Consecration. It's preceded by the Eucharistic Prayer, which is the words, ancient words of prayer to God emphasizing the sacrifice of Jesus Christ.

The mass is a recalling of that sacrifice, a representation of Christ's suffering and death and that is at the heart of this service, of this Eucharist. And it is the heart of Christian faith.

RE (through translator): You are indeed Holy, O Lord, and all you have created rightly gives you praise, for through your Son, our Lord Jesus Christ, by the power and working of the Holy Spirit, you give life to all things and make them holy.

And you never cease to gather a people to yourself, so that, from the rising of the sun to its setting, a pure sacrifice may be offered to your name.

Therefore, O Lord, we humbly implore you, by the same Spirit graciously make holy these gifts we have brought to you for consecration, that they may become the Body and Blood of your Son, our Lord Jesus Christ, at whose command we celebrate these mysteries.

On the night he was betrayed, he himself took bread and, giving you thanks, he said the blessing, broke the bread and gave it to his disciples, saying, "Take this, all of you and eat of it, for this is my Body, which will be given up for you."

In a similar way, when supper was ended, he took the chalice and giving you thanks, he said the blessing and gave the chalice to his disciples, saying, "Take this, all of you and drink from it, for this is the chalice of my Blood, the Blood of the new and eternal covenant, which will be poured out for you and for many for the forgiveness of sins.

"Do this in memory of me."

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RE (through translator): Until you come again. Therefore, O Lord, as we celebrate the memorial of the saving Passion of your Son, his wondrous Resurrection and Ascension into heaven and as we look forward to his second coming, we offer you in thanksgiving this holy and living sacrifice.

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Look, we pray, upon the oblation of your Church and, recognizing the sacrificial Victim by whose death you willed to reconcile us to yourself, grant that we, who are nourished by the Body and Blood of your Son and filled with his Holy Spirit, may become one body, one spirit in Christ.

May he make of us an eternal offering to you, so that we may obtain an inheritance with your elect, especially with the most Blessed Virgin Mary, Mother of God, with blessed Joseph, her Spouse, with your blessed Apostles and glorious Martyrs and with all the Saints, on whose constant intercession in your presence we rely for unfailing help.

May this Sacrifice of our reconciliation, we pray, O Lord, advance the peace and salvation of all the world. Be pleased to confirm in faith and charity your pilgrim Church on Earth, with the Order of Bishops, all the clergy and the entire people you have gained for your own.

Listen graciously to the prayers of this family, whom you have summoned before you. In your compassion, O merciful Father, gather to yourself all the children scattered throughout the world.

Remember your servant, Pope Francis, whom you have called from this world to yourself. Grant that he who was united with your Son in a death like his may also be one with him in his Resurrection, when from the Earth he will raise up in the flesh those who have died and transform our lowly body after the pattern of his own glorious body.

To our departed brothers and sisters, too, and to all who were pleasing to you at their passing from this life, give kind admittance to your kingdom. There we hope to enjoy for ever the fullness of your glory, when you will wipe away every tear from our eyes.

For seeing you, our God, as you are, we shall be like you for all the ages and praise you without end, through Christ our Lord, through whom you bestow on the world all that is good.

Through him --

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RE (through translator): -- all glory and honor is yours, for ever and ever.

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RE (through translator): At the Savior's command and formed by divine teaching, we dare to say, "Our Father, which art in heaven, hallowed by thy name; thy kingdom come, thy will be done on Earth as it is in heaven. "Give us this day our daily bread and forgive us our trespasses, as we

forgive those who trespass against us. And lead us not into temptation but deliver us from evil."

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RE (through translator): Deliver us, Lord, we pray, from every evil. Graciously grant our peace in our days, that, by the help of your mercy, we may be always free from sin and safe from all distress.

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As we await the blessed. Hope and the coming of our savior, Jesus Christ.

ANDERSON COOPER, CNN HOST: Coming up is the Sign of Peace.

LAMB: Yes, the Sign of Peace where everyone is asked to make a Sign of Peace to the people nearest to them, including the world leaders, who will be making a handshake to one another.

My peace I give you. Look not on our sins but on the faith of your Church and graciously grant her peace and unity in accordance with your will, who live and reign for ever and ever. Amen.

The peace of the Lord be with you always and with your spirit. Let us offer each other the Sign of Peace.

LAMB: So you can see the world leaders making the Sign of Peace.

There President Trump and president Macron shaking hands. You may remember in 2005, Prince Charles shook hands with Zimbabwean dictator Robert Mugabe. And also the leaders of Iran and Syria shook hands with the then president of Israel. So quite an interesting diplomatic moment amongst everything else.

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RE (through translator): Behold the Lamb of God, behold him who takes away the sins of the world. Blessed are those called to the supper of the Lamb.

Lord, I am not worthy that you should enter under my roof but only say the word and my soul shall be healed.

Let perpetual light shine upon him, with the Saints for ever, for you are merciful.

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LAMB: So now people are receiving communion. The bread and the wine that's been consecrated is being shared. And you see, the priests are receiving.

[05:25:02] They are taking the bread, the host and dipping it into the wine. So receiving the body and blood of Jesus Christ, according to Catholic belief. And there's going to be quite an operation now to distribute communion amongst the crowd.

You can see the deacons and the priests going out amongst people so they can give communion to as many people as possible.

COOPER: Out in the crowd, there are also now priests coming with the host --

LAMB: For all the people. For all the people. I mean, it's obviously not just the bread and wine that's been consecrated by Cardinal Re. These are pre consecrated. So in Catholic belief, you have a bread that's been consecrated in another mass. And then it will be shared amongst the people as widely as possible.

CLARISSA WARD, CNN CHIEF INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: See people coming up toward the barriers, holding out their hands, waiting for their turn to receive holy communion as the priests move.

LAMB: Because, of course, a sense of communion is at the heart of the church and the people, believers, Catholics had a profound sense of communion with Pope Francis, a profound connection with him.

And this communion is the connection that each Catholic has with Christ through receiving but also with one another. It's both a vertical communion and a horizontal on.

COOPER: And all the people who want to receive communion are kind of moving toward the kind of open channels of the roots that have remained open for security personnel.

And the priests are moving through those open routes and literally in some cases, standing on -- it looks like standing on boxes, reaching deep into the crowd as the people come toward the fences that is holding them back to receive the communion.

WARD: And you saw that moment, Anderson, when Cardinal Re held up the host of the Eucharist and there was absolute silence, except for the bell, and again, when he held up the chalice.

LAMB: Yes.

WARD: Profoundly moving moment, even for those who are not Catholics.

LAMB: And the bells represent the presence of the Holy Spirit. And, of course, it's the Catholic belief that the Holy Spirit guides the church, continues to inspire the church. And, of course, the Holy Spirit will be guiding the cardinals when they choose the next pope. That's the belief of the church.

COOPER: I see a number of nuns reaching out to a priest to bring the communion so they can take communion as well.

WARD: I can see, out of the corner of my eye, one nun standing with her hands clasped in prayer, with tears in her eyes. For so many of those gathered here today, this is a profoundly solemn, moving -- in contrast to some of the crowds that we've seen before in the runup to this.

You can see people kneeling on the ground, Anderson, behind us there, heads bowed in prayer.

COOPER: I've never seen it, at such a large gathering as this, where there are many police, security personnel. I see there's soldiers walking around with weaponry.

WARD: Some with anti-drone.

COOPER: Anti-drone guns, which are quite startling to see up close, to also see priests handing out communion. It's an extraordinary sight.

WARD: Almost like a feeding of the 5,000.

LAMB: (INAUDIBLE) Ben Wedeman is in the crowd. Let's check in with him.

Ben, what are you seeing around you?

BEN WEDEMAN, CNN SR. INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: What does it mean?

You came here on vacation for the jubilee and the pope died.

What was your reaction?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Sadness. He was a great pope, a pope who opened the church to everybody. We were with him in jubilee in Granada, of Juventud in Lisbon.

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And he said that the church was for everybody, everybody, everybody. He was an open pope. We hope that the next pope has the same ideas. We, when we knew about the death of the pope, we came set (ph). But we have already reservation, the vacation for the jubilee. So we came with our adults and young men.

WEDEMAN: And, what was it to be here on this day for his funeral?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It was very special. It's our way to say thank you and say goodbye of a great man.

WEDEMAN: OK. Thank you very much.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You're welcome.

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COOPER: Just listening to somebody Ben Wedeman was talking to in the crowd.

Christopher, what's coming up next?

LAMB: So the choir are going to singing, from Psalm 41, "Like the deer that yearns for running streams, so my soul is yearning for you, my God."

It's quite a beautiful, poetic psalm that is being sung now as people receive communion.

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LAMB: They've also been singing, "Let perpetual light shine upon him with your Saints forever. For you are merciful."

So the choir singing that prayer that Pope Francis will enter heaven, that's the faith and the hope of the church.

COOPER: And then after the communion, there'll be the Commendation.

LAMB: Yes, that's right. We will see the Commendation, which is another profound moment when Pope Francis will be commended to God by the cardinals and the bishops and all those present. And during the final farewell --

COOPER: During the Commendation, the cardinals will actually gather around the coffin.

LAMB: Yes. And that will be a very powerful and poignant moment, the final accompaniment of Pope Francis.

COOPER: They also ask all the Saints to pray for Pope Francis, for 73 Saints. Then they, at the end of that, at the end of the Litany of Saints, as the prayer by the cardinal vicar of Rome, which is specific to the funeral of the pope, we should also talk a little bit about the homily that that we heard earlier.

WARD: Yes. It was a very powerful recap, essentially, of the extraordinary legacy of Pope Francis. Cardinal Re, talking about how he wanted to be close to everyone. That really struck me because I think it stands in contrast to what we can often associate with some religious leaders, who seem sort of slightly aloof or at a distance.

Pope Francis was a man of the people, a pope of the people. We heard a number of moments of applause from the crowds, particularly when he talked about this idea that Pope Francis saw the church as being like a field hospital, to welcome and hold the wounded.

He talked about the fact that his first official trip was to Lampedusa, the gateway for migrants clamoring to get into Europe to find a better life.

COOPER: That was also one of the moments that many in the crowd applauded when they heard the name Lampedusa, because so many people here know the significance of it for this pontiff.

LAMB: And I noticed they also applauded when Cardinal Re talked about the pope's appeals for peace. He said that, you know, negotiation is possible. That's what Pope Francis pushed for, time and again.

Very powerful that he makes those remarks in front of world leaders. Also the homily focused on the Pope Francis personality, his spontaneity, also his determination and his strong leadership, which, of course, the cardinals know only too well. So not just a sort of summary of the pope's achievements but also his personality.

WARD: And you talked about the pope for peace. In his final blessing on Easter Sunday, he reiterated the desperate need for a ceasefire in Ukraine and Sudan and Gaza. Francis used to call the Catholic community in Gaza almost every single day since October 2023.

COOPER: I also want to bring in Father Edward Beck.

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Father Beck, what have you been particularly moved by?

FATHER EDWARD BECK, CNN RELIGION COMMENTATOR: I was very struck by the vigor of a 92-year-old man, Cardinal Battista Re, in his deliverance of that homily. It was very passionate.

I thought he hit all of the hallmark qualities of Francis so acutely. And not only that, it was really more a eulogy than a homily. But it was such a fine testimony of the hallmarks of what Francis stood for.

The church as a home for all, Re said. The doors are open for all. As Clarissa mentioned, the field hospital for the wounded. But then he also talked about Laudato Si, the encyclical on the environment, which we haven't really talked about much.

But the pope was really an environmentalist and this was a deep concern of his. It was an encyclical that was really lauded around the world. And that got applause, too, when he talked about that encyclical.

And mercy being at the center; one of the real themes of Pope Francis is a whole year of mercy, that mercy is at the heart of the gospel. And the homily brought that out in a very profound way, I think.

And then finally, of course, when he said, "Pope Francis always says, 'pray for me' but now please pray for us."

COOPER: Father Beck, we'll talk with you a little bit longer, a little bit later. Let's listen in.

RE (through translator): As we come to the table of your eternal banquet, we humbly beg your mercy, Lord, for the soul of your departed servant, Pope Francis, that he may rejoice at last in possession of the truth, in which he faithfully confirmed your people through Christ our Lord. Amen.

Dear brothers and sisters, let us commend to God's tender mercy the soul of Pope Francis, Bishop of the Catholic Church, who confirmed his brothers and sisters in the faith of the resurrection. Let us pray to God our Father through Jesus Christ and in the Holy

Spirit, may he deliver him from death, welcome him to eternal peace and raise up him on the last day.

Through the intercession of the Blessed Virgin Mary, Queen of Apostles and Protectress of the Roman people, may God reveal to our Pope the face of his beloved Son and console the Church with the light of the resurrection.

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COOPER: Let's listen here.

So this is the Litany of the Saints, asking the Saints to pray for Pope Francis.

LAMB: Exactly. It's asking for the intercessions of the Saints and the choir are listing the names of the Saints: Saint John the Baptist, Saint Joseph.

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Saint Peter and Saint Paul, Saint Andrew, a long list of the Saints.

And they are chanting, "Orate pro eo," "Pray for him."

So asking for the Saints to pray and intercede for Pope Francis.

COOPER: And they'll read off the names of 73 Saints, asking each of those Saints to pray for Saint Francis -- for Pope Francis.

LAMB: That's right. Each of the -- those Saints are being asked to pray for the pope. It's a quite a beautiful chant.

COOPER: Let's listen in.

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COOPER: This is the litany of the Saints, the reading of 73 names of Saints, asking each of them to pray for Pope Francis.

David Culver was pointing out to me something important about communion and how, under Pope Francis, there was a kind of a reframing of how Catholics are often taught to perceive communion.

You see that Pope Francis wrote that, "The Eucharist is not a prize for the perfect but a generous medicine and food for the weak."

LAMB: Yes, that's very important. Yes. He insisted that the Eucharist shouldn't be seen as some sort of prize for the perfect but it's -- but it's food for the journey. And, you know, during his pontificate, he opened up the possibility for divorced and remarried Catholics to receive communion, previously barred from doing so.

It was all part of his vision of the church for everyone. He used to insist that the church must welcome all people. And Cardinal Re, in the sermon, said that the pope emphasized mercy, time and again. Francis said famously it's not us, "It's not God who gets tired of forgiving; it's us who get tired of asking for forgiveness."

COOPER: It seems very appropriate, then, that communion was given to so many in this crowd. Anybody who wanted could come up and receive communion.

LAMB: That's right. And obviously the teaching of the church is that it's, you know, Catholics in communion who should receive the Eucharist. But Francis didn't want to put up kind of barriers of entry to faith. He wanted to encourage faith.

He didn't -- he said the church must not be like a customs house, where you have to pay a toll to get in. The church is a family and it welcomes everyone.

COOPER: I want to bring in Kim Daniels, who has been watching along with us.

Kim, what are your thoughts in this moment?

KIM DANIELS, GEORGETOWN DIRECTOR OF INITIATIVE ON CATHOLIC SOCIAL THOUGHT AND PUBLIC LIFE: You know, I felt like I saw three themes here. First, I saw the idea that we're rooted in tradition yet forward looking.

You see the tradition right in front of you, right?

We see the litany of the Saints. We see the remarkable funeral liturgy mass that that we're all familiar with, that stretches back generations. But obviously here is very special for Pope Francis.

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We secondly, see this global communion. And that's in the world leaders that are gathered there. But most importantly in the people who are there in the square, who, again, are just from around the world. We are such a global faith.

I think what was so striking about this was mission. This is our gospel mission. This was -- the homily was rooted in this idea of our gospel mission to "Feed my sheep," he said. That's what Cardinal Re said.

And it was just a striking and forceful demonstration of the idea that we're called to be there for the marginalized, the poor. We, the church is called to be a pastor and to care for those in need.

COOPER: The litany of the Saints continues. I also want to check in with Katie McGrady, who has also been watching this remarkable moment.

Katie, what stands out to you?

KATIE PREJEAN MCGRADY, SIRIUSXM CATHOLIC CHANNEL HOST: I was really struck by how, in the moments of communion, you could see that the bishops and the concelebrating priests and the cardinals were certainly being very reflective and prayerful, kind of probably taking in this hugely significant moment.

I think it's also worth noting, Cardinal Re, who's been presiding, who's in his 90s, was ordained in 1957. So think for a moment of how much history he has seen. And in this moment, as we're commending Pope Francis to the Lord, that it really is this very striking historical moment.

So I just kind of keep going back to how much history has he seen and this historical moment with so many people gathered together.

COOPER: We're nearing the end of the Litany of Saints.

What comes after this, Christopher?

LAMB: The prayer. After this, we're having the Prayer of the Eastern Churches. Now the pope is not just the pope of the Western church. There are the churches of the East in communion with the bishop of Rome, with the Holy See.

But they have their own identity and traditions and we're going to see a taste of that with their singing of the prayer from their own Liturgy for the Dead.

CARDINAL BALDASSARE REINA, VICAR GENERAL FOR THE DIOCESE OF ROME (through translator): O God, faithful rewarder of souls, grant that your departed servant and our Bishop, Pope Francis, whom you made successor of Peter and shepherd of your Church.

May happily enjoy for ever in your presence in heaven the mysteries of your grace and compassion, which he faithfully ministered on earth through Christ our Lord.

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LAMB: The leaders of the eastern churches. They, as I said earlier, they have their own traditions and obviously wearing different vestments. These Churches of the East go right back to the beginning of Christianity. You have the church in Iraq, for example, is an Eastern church in communion with Rome. But it's a place where the first Christians.

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COOPER: We should point out they are Catholic Churches and the pope is their pope.

LAMB: Exactly. They are Catholic Churches. They are in communion with Rome but they obviously have their own traditions. They are different to, in many ways, to the Western church. But they are in communion with the church.

So it shows the Catholic Church is a diverse body of believers.

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(MUSIC PLAYING) UNIDENTIFIED MALE (through translator): Have mercy on us, O God, in your great kindness; we beseech you, hear us and be merciful. Lord, have mercy. Kyrie Eleison.

Again, let us pray for the repose of the soul of this departed servant of God, Francis, Bishop, that he may be forgiven his every sin and failing. Lord, have mercy.

May the Lord God lead his soul to the resting place of the righteous. Let us ask Christ, our immortal King and God, to bestow on him the divine mercy, the kingdom of heaven and the forgiveness of his sins.

Hear us, O Lord. Let us pray to the Lord. Lord, have mercy. God of souls and of all flesh, who trampled death underfoot, vanquished the devil and gave life to the world, grant repose to the soul of your departed Servant, Francis, Bishop, in a place of light and joy, a verdant place, a place of blessedness, where suffering, pain and sorrow are no more.

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Forgive every sin he committed in thought, word or deed, for you are a gracious God and a friend to mankind. No one who lives is without sin. You alone are sinless. Your righteousness is eternal and your word is truth.

For you, O Christ our God, are the resurrection, the life and the repose of your Servant Francis, Bishop, who has fallen asleep. We give you glory, with your eternal Father and your Holy Spirit, who is gracious and the giver of life, now and forever. Amen.

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LAMB: This is -- this is Youssef Absi, the patriarch of the Antioch -- patriarch of Antioch, of the Greek Melkite church, which is another church in communion with Rome, an eastern church but chanting prayers from the Eastern tradition of Christianity.

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LAMB: So we're now moved to the Responsory, where Cardinal Re will incense the altar and sprinkle the coffin with holy water, to bless the coffin. Quite a powerful symbol, because, of course, water is used for baptism. So things coming full circle.

The water that Pope Francis was baptized with now sprinkled on his coffin, in his death and his time, at the moment when he makes his final journey.

COOPER: And these prayers which are sung -- this is part of the funeral mass -- is about saying goodbye but also speaks to the belief in resurrection. And the death is not the end.

LAMB: That's right. It's a very powerful sense here of that faith, that death is not the end and that it says, the singing choir is singing, "I know that my redeemer lives. On the last day I shall rise again."

That faith that Christians have in the resurrection.

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