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Why Are Palestinians Moving Into Jerusalem?; Interview With Roger Andreson
Aired July 11, 2004 - 07:30 ET
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BETTY NGUYEN, CNN ANCHOR: In the Middle East, what is driving Palestinians to move inside the city of Jerusalem? Welcome back. I'm Betty Nguyen.
DREW GRIFFIN, CNN ANCHOR: And I'm Drew Griffin. That story in a minute.
First, headlines at this hour. The wife and brother of Filipino hostage will travel to Iraq in an effort to negotiate his release. Iraqi militants have threatened to kill Angelo de la Cruz unless Filipino troops are withdrawn from Iraq by July 20. The Philippines government has been given until tonight to comply. Manila says it's 50 troops will leave Iraq next month as planned.
Four U.S. Marines have died in Iraq during the past 24 hours. The Associated Press reporting they were killed in a vehicle crash during security operations in the western province of al Anbar in northern Iraq. A U.S. soldier and an Iraqi civilian were killed earlier today by a roadside bomb near Mosul.
In Japan, today's parliamentary elections only affect the upper house and do not pose a direct threat to Prime Minister Koizumi. But a poor showing by Mr. Koizumi's liberal Democratic party could spell political trouble for him down the road.
And in Israel, months of relative quiet ended this morning with a bomb at a Tel Aviv bus stop. One woman died from her injuries. About 20 others hurt. Palestinian militants call it retaliation for a recent Israeli military operations in the West Bank.
NGUYEN: And speaking of Israel, Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon is rejecting a ruling by the international court of justice that a barrier Israel is building in the West Bank is illegal. The massive construction has prompted some Palestinians to move to Jerusalem, as CNN's John Vause reports.
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JOHN VAUSE, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Six children, two adults, and one very small room, home the Indress family in Jerusalem's old city. They moved here two years ago, leaving a spacious five bedroom on the outskirts of East Jerusalem.
RHONDA INDRESS, RESIDENT: (through translator) We moved here because of the wall and the checkpoints. Life was very difficult. The kids couldn't go to and from school.
VAUSE: Rhonda Indress and her family are among a growing number of Palestinians moving to the old city because lives outside Israel's barrier. Once the wall is finished, she fears never being allowed into Jerusalem, never allowed to visit the dome of the rock.
R. INDRESS: I am the daughter of Jerusalem. Jerusalem is my soul.
VAUSE: Palestinians in each Jerusalem have Israeli IDs. They can live and work here. They pay taxes to Israel and receive benefits, like health insurance and social security.
But legally, their residents, not citizens. And many, like Kamir Kabaja (ph) believe when the wall is finished, their homes will technically be outside Jerusalem. And they'll lose their Israeli benefits. So he moved to the old city as well, living in a cramped one room apartment with his wife and five children.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (through translator) I am a Jerusalemite. I have an Israeli ID. Like an Israeli, I should be able to move around as I want.
VAUSE: Once a week, he tries to return to his old house with its seven rooms, a chance for his children to play in the garden.
(on camera): There's no way to know for sure how many Palestinians are moving to the Muslim quarter of the old city. No official figures are kept. There's only anecdotal evidence. Vacant apartments are hard to find. And rents are going up. And many who live here say this neighborhood is becoming another refugee camp.
(voice-over): The cement wall around Jerusalem should be built by the end of next year. Until then, Palestinian officials expect the migration into the old city will only increase. Soon these narrow old streets could be more crowded and cramped than ever before.
John Vause, CNN, Jerusalem.
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NGUYEN: Time now to fast forward for a look at what's expected to make news this week. Health care officials from around the world have converged on Bangkok this week for the international AIDS conference. It begins today and runs through July 16th.
Court martial proceedings were meant to begin Monday against Private Lynndie England at Fort Bragg, North Carolina, but here attorneys were granted a delay on Friday. So they'll meet in court tomorrow to discuss when the procedure might begin. She is accused of prisoner abuse at Abu Ghraib prison in Baghdad.
And Martha Stewart is expected to learn of her fate on Friday. That's the day has set for sentencing. Stewart's request for a new trial was denied last week -- Drew? GRIFFIN: You have heard about Vietnam your whole life, I bet. But could you find it on a map? Coming up next, a man who's going to make you and your kids geography whizzes. Please stay with us.
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GRIFFIN: You're looking at a blank map of the world. We're going to test your knowledge in a moment. Can you identify the Canadian province of Saskatchewan? The African nation of Cameroon? Or how about Taiwan? May not be easy.
Here they are. If you didn't get it right, you are certainly in some very good company. Don't shoot the messenger here, but chances are good that if you were educated in the United States, finding other countries on a map is a real puzzle to you. Knowledge of the world's geography is woefully weak in much of the country. And Roger Andreson, right, is making it his life's work to change that.
Welcome.
ROGER ANDRESON, A BROADER VIEW: Thank you very much.
GRIFFIN: Why are we so terrible in the U.S. with geography?
ANDRESON: Well, I got to tell you, we don't really have a good excuse. I think a lot of us just focus on the world, you know, that we live in from day to day. We go to our jobs every day, focus on career, and forget there's a lot of other things out there dealing with geography.
And you know, geography, international geography in particular, should be important to us all for a wide variety of reasons. I mean, it should be important to you. It's very critical part of your career.
But it should be important to all of us, like me and you guys sitting at home having your first cup of coffee. It's important to you guys, too.
I mean, CNN alone tells us about 30 new countries a day. In order to keep up with this, it's a good idea to have an idea where all these things are.
GRIFFIN: And yet, we'd -- an international competition, 2002...
ANDRESON: Yes.
GRIFFIN: The United States shows up almost last.
ANDRESON: Yes. Eighteen different countries, about 5,000 people between the ages of 18 and 24. And we came in second to last place.
GRIFFIN: Roger, you've come up with an idea to fix that. It's right here. The puzzle. How did you get this idea? And how's it going? ANDRESON: Well, here's what it is. I mean, I was wondering how I could help people. And there's a lot of great tools out there. You have your globe and an atlas.
But the thing about these guys is they're never going to come to you in the morning and say, "Listen, you got to learn 193 countries today." So I was looking for a way to find -- make a product that would basically force people to, in a nice way, force people to figure out where the countries were.
So I came up with this concept called the global puzzle. And it's basically a pretty simple idea. It's a puzzle of the world, but it's unique in the fact that the pieces are actually shaped like the countries of the world. So it's a hands on activity. You've got to take each country and just focus on it, have a little mental connection with that country.
GRIFFIN: And you went out and actually did your own little survey, and found that the average American, or I should say Atlantan, huh, because you were here in Atlanta...
ANDRESON: Yes.
GRIFFIN: ...was able to find how many of these countries?
ANDRESON: Eighteen of the 193 countries. And now that sounds bad on its own, but you got to consider every once and a while, we'd have a guy come along that would know about 160 countries. So to offset this guy, there's a whole bunch of people that know where like two or three countries are. So we are awful.
GRIFFIN: So this is fun? This makes it fun? And kids and adults are learning?
ANDRESON: Yes, you got it. And don't think just because you're an adult, you need to stop learning, because it can be for all ages. It's great for the whole family to put together.
GRIFFIN: All right, so are you going to quiz me?
ANDRESON: Yes. You ready?
GRIFFIN: I don't know. Am I ready, Betty?
NGUYEN: I don't think so. But hey, go for it.
GRIFFIN: All right, here we go.
ANDRESON: All right, well let's start with something pretty easy. Tell me where Somalia is.
GRIFFIN: Somalia, I've been there. Right there.
ANDRESON: Well, that's cheating if you've been there. All right, let's give you a little tougher. Let's go with Cameroon.
GRIFFIN: Cameroon.
ANDRESON: And actually...
GRIFFIN: I think it's in Africa. Cameroon, right there.
ANDRESON: You got it. We've got to give you a map without any of the names on it. OK, here's one. Kiribati.
GRIFFIN: Kiribati? I had that last night. I'm trying to...
ANDRESON: What do you mean you had it last night? That's not fair.
GRIFFIN: I have no idea where Kiribati is. Where is it?
ANDRESON: It's one of the Pacific islands out here. Got it right here. There's a whole bunch of Pacific island countries that no one's ever heard of. In Africa, it's all changing. I mean, you know, if people got an education in geography 40 years ago, this map is -- the new map is totally different.
GRIFFIN: You've got some other products here. How are they being marketed? And how are you doing? Are people generally interested in improving their geography?
ANDRESON: Oh, yes. Like when I did -- took that quiz out on the streets of Atlanta, 80 percent of the people said they had -- well that around -- they had an interest. They felt that they knew nothing about geography. And they wanted to know more.
That's why I decided to make the global puzzle. And we're marketing it throughout the United States. And it's in hundreds of retail stores that can all be found on my Web site, globalpuzzle.com, www.globalpuzzle.com. And we're also selling it online at that site.
GRIFFIN: And you've got other versions. Maybe these are for little kids with some of the animals on them?
ANDRESON: Well, this has all the educational benefits. The pieces are still shaped like countries. It's called the Global Animal Puzzle. And we just added 100 animals from all over the world in their indigenous regions. Just to add an extra element of education.
GRIFFIN: Yes, this looks like a travel job.
ANDRESON: Yes.
GRIFFIN: Or maybe a little placemat.
ANDRESON: Well, the adults were saying we need something for our real young kids. And so, it's a beginner version, where the pieces are shaped like the continents rather, rather than the countries. And as you change the angle at which you look at it, you change what you see.
From one angle, you see the continents and a bunch of landmarks. And from another angle, you'll see all the countries of the world.
GRIFFIN: All right.
ANDRESON: Some kids are fascinated by the lenticular version of it. And it keeps them going. Starting to learn -- get the basics.
GRIFFIN: Roger Andreson, come back next year. See how we do in our geography quiz next year. I'm going to know what's the name of that country I missed.
ANDRESON: Kiribati.
GRIFFIN: Yes, Kiribati. Betty, back to you.
NGUYEN: Kiribati. You know what? Two out of three, not too bad, Drew. Not too bad.
Well, this year marks the 50th anniversary of the first kidney transplant, but the process can still be difficult and confusing. On "house call", Dr. Sanjay Gupta puts to rest the myths surrounding organ donations. He also discusses some of the controversy. That is at 8:30 a.m. Eastern right here on CNN.
John Kerry's picked his running mate. So how long will the honeymoon last? A campaign update when CNN SUNDAY MORNING returns.
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SEN. JOHN KERRY (D-MA), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I am pleased to announce that with your help, the next vice president of the United States of America will be Senator John Edwards from North Carolina.
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NGUYEN: The Democratic duo wraps up a five state introduction tour. National Public Radio's Andrea Seabrook is a regular CNN contributor on things political. And she joins us in our Washington bureau.
Good morning to you.
ANDREA SEABROOK, NPR: Good morning, Betty.
NGUYEN: Well, we want to talk about this match up here and want to take a look at some of the latest numbers. We're going to put those up on the screen for you.
The latest "Newsweek" poll shows that voters who are deciding for president have picked the Kerry-Edwards ticket with 47 percent. Bush- Cheney ticket, 44 percent. And the Nader ticket just 3 percent. How much of a boost did Edwards give Kerry?
SEABROOK: A pretty good boost, actually. You know, it's not only in the poll numbers, although we are seeing some uptick in the numbers across the board for Kerry-Edwards ticket.
It's also in the way that John Kerry is campaigning. Since Tuesday, it's been five days now. John Kerry has been lighter on his feet. He's been a little bit more optimistic.
Also, you know, just seeing him shaking hands, tousling hair...
NGUYEN: A lot of hugging going on.
SEABROOK: ...of being buddy-buddy. Yes. It's been a really sort of -- a week of camaraderie for these two. And that's really given them a positive look to their campaign.
Of course, now the real test is that Mr. Edwards is going out this week on his own. And he'll be campaigning for their ticket. And so, when they're separate, how well will they do? Well, we'll see.
NGUYEN: So you think that three percent is directly attributed to Edwards?
SEABROOK: I think it's part of it. I think Kerry did a good job in picking a guy that will balance out the ticket, but also injects this sort of enthusiasm, and some say youth, though he is 51-years old. I mean, he seems so much younger than John Kerry.
NGUYEN: He looks a lot younger than 51.
SEABROOK: He does, he does. And you know, I think that the big main thing, though, for the campaign was picking someone who could go out on their own. This next week will really see the trial of picking a guy who could go out on his own and really campaign for the ticket by himself.
NGUYEN: I want to take a look at some other numbers. When Cheney is pitted against Edwards in the polls, put that up on the screen for you, Cheney's favorable rating is 46 percent. His unfavorable rating is 43 percent.
Now check out Edwards numbers. 52 percent favorable, 25 percent unfavorable. Historically, people don't vote for vice president. But in this case, it is making a difference, isn't it?
SEABROOK: You know, most of us tend to think that it does make some kind of difference. I mean, part of this is, though, that Vice President Cheney has had to do a lot of uncomfortable things for the last four years.
Part of it is also that the Bush-Cheney campaign has pursued this strategy of making President Bush, insulating him from anything that could possibly be controversial or seen as negative in any way, and giving that all to Vice President Cheney to bear the burden of.
And so, you know, part of it is the campaign's own fault in some ways, that Cheney has such bad unfavorables. Also, John Edwards ran such a positive campaign in the primaries, that whether you are a Democrat or a Republican, or anywhere across the political spectrum, people respected John Edwards.
And so, that could change, though. I mean, the traditional role of vice president in this kind of campaign scenario is to be the bad cop, is to be the bulldog, you know, the one that's really going to point out the differences, instead of just being positive.
And you know, if the John Kerry, John Edwards ticket decides to go that route, those numbers could change significantly.
NGUYEN: Well, quickly, despite those unfavorable numbers, for Cheney, the president says he's not taking him off the ticket. But if he does for some reason, we want to look at some poll numbers now that show that if Bush runs with Powell, should we say, he gets a 53 percent jump. And Kerry-Edwards just 44.
And if he decides on McCain, Senator McCain, 49 percent to the Kerry-Edwards, 47 percent. So how much of a liability has Cheney become for Bush?
SEABROOK: Well, I think probably those numbers reflect better the popularity of Colin Powell and of John McCain than they do the relative unpopularity of Vice President Cheney.
I mean, Powell and McCain are two moderate Republicans, who have done a pretty good job of making a good image in the Republican party. And you know, Vice President Cheney, as I said before, has had to do a lot of bull dog work in this last four years and in the last few months certainly.
Then again, you know, no one think's it's very likely this idea that Cheney would be there. And you know, President Bush has said Cheney would make a good president, you know, referring to his vice president, trying to support him in some ways.
So you know, like I said, none of us think it's really that likely that Cheney would be dropped from the ticket. It would be a big admission of having such a big liability on the ticket for President Bush to go that direction.
NGUYEN: Well, Bush has already said that he's not going to do it. So...
SEABROOK: Yes.
NGUYEN: ...we shall see. All right, Andrea Seabrook, National Public Radio. Thank you so much.
SEABROOK: Thank you.
NGUYEN: And be sure to tune in to "Inside Politics" coming up this morning on CNN at 10:00 Eastern. We'll take an early look at the two tickets and their prospects for November.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Oh, my God! (END VIDEO CLIP)
GRIFFIN: Home sweet home for some happy folks. The airport wait finally over. This is a reunion to remember. We'll bring it to you when CNN SUNDAY MORNING returns.
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GRIFFIN: Welcome back to CNN SUNDAY MORNING. I'm Drew Griffin.
In the headlines right now, four U.S. Marines have been killed in the western Iraqi province of al Anbar. A U.S. soldier and an Iraqi civilian were killed earlier today as well by a roadside bomb near Mosul.
The wife and brother of Filipino hostage will travel to Iraq in an effort to negotiate for his release. The Philippine government has been given until tonight to comply with demands that Filipino troops leave Iraq by July 20th, something that the Philippines say they will not do.
And in Israel, Palestinian militants have claimed responsibility for a bomb today at a Tel Aviv bus stop. One person was killed, four others seriously hurt.
NGUYEN: We've heard a lot about how U.S. troops spend their time in Iraq, but what's it like for soldiers who finally get that long awaited trip home for a little bit of R&R?
Well, Maria Hinojosa just happened to be at the airport when she ran into a group of soldiers.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Oh, my God! Hi, baby. Hi, Mommy.
Give daddy a kiss. I love you.
MARIA HINOJOSA, CNN CORRESPONDENT: You're a police officer.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes.
HINOJOSA: On the streets of New York. And you've been doing what for the past three months?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I've been patrolling the streets of Baghdad. There's quite a difference.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I get to see my daughter, Eva Rose.
HINOJOSA: And she was born?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: She was born 4th of July. She's daddy's baby, born for all the troops out in Iraq, in support of Iraq. She decided to come out and support us. It's a great day.
HINOJOSA: How are you doing?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I'm just -- I feel numb right now. I'm just so excited, beyond excited. I can't even explain how I feel right now.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I'm just -- I'm going to show up to the house and surprise the family. They don't know I'm coming. They still think I'm in Iraq somewhere. I'm actually going to call them on the phone and tell them that I'm in a big fire fight. And I'm going to hang up the phone. Then I'm going to ring the bell. It's going to be fun. They'll love it. They're up to stuff like that. Devious.
HINOJOSA: How do you relax just for two weeks, knowing that you're going to go back to maybe seeing combat?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I mean, you really can't. All you can do is spend as much time with your family, try to enjoy the things that you used to, but you really can't.
HINOJOSA: And there are a lot of things that you can't talk to your family about what you're seeing over there. How do you handle with keeping a lot of this inside, you can't talk about it, how do you handle it?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I mean, I just try not to really open my mouth too much, because if I tell them everything, it's like they're going to be worried even more, you know? Go, try to keep it positive, try some of the good stuff. And hopefully, it'll be over soon and I get to come home.
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NGUYEN: Oh, what a great welcome home for those troops.
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BETTY NGUYEN, CNN ANCHOR: In the Middle East, what is driving Palestinians to move inside the city of Jerusalem? Welcome back. I'm Betty Nguyen.
DREW GRIFFIN, CNN ANCHOR: And I'm Drew Griffin. That story in a minute.
First, headlines at this hour. The wife and brother of Filipino hostage will travel to Iraq in an effort to negotiate his release. Iraqi militants have threatened to kill Angelo de la Cruz unless Filipino troops are withdrawn from Iraq by July 20. The Philippines government has been given until tonight to comply. Manila says it's 50 troops will leave Iraq next month as planned.
Four U.S. Marines have died in Iraq during the past 24 hours. The Associated Press reporting they were killed in a vehicle crash during security operations in the western province of al Anbar in northern Iraq. A U.S. soldier and an Iraqi civilian were killed earlier today by a roadside bomb near Mosul.
In Japan, today's parliamentary elections only affect the upper house and do not pose a direct threat to Prime Minister Koizumi. But a poor showing by Mr. Koizumi's liberal Democratic party could spell political trouble for him down the road.
And in Israel, months of relative quiet ended this morning with a bomb at a Tel Aviv bus stop. One woman died from her injuries. About 20 others hurt. Palestinian militants call it retaliation for a recent Israeli military operations in the West Bank.
NGUYEN: And speaking of Israel, Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon is rejecting a ruling by the international court of justice that a barrier Israel is building in the West Bank is illegal. The massive construction has prompted some Palestinians to move to Jerusalem, as CNN's John Vause reports.
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JOHN VAUSE, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Six children, two adults, and one very small room, home the Indress family in Jerusalem's old city. They moved here two years ago, leaving a spacious five bedroom on the outskirts of East Jerusalem.
RHONDA INDRESS, RESIDENT: (through translator) We moved here because of the wall and the checkpoints. Life was very difficult. The kids couldn't go to and from school.
VAUSE: Rhonda Indress and her family are among a growing number of Palestinians moving to the old city because lives outside Israel's barrier. Once the wall is finished, she fears never being allowed into Jerusalem, never allowed to visit the dome of the rock.
R. INDRESS: I am the daughter of Jerusalem. Jerusalem is my soul.
VAUSE: Palestinians in each Jerusalem have Israeli IDs. They can live and work here. They pay taxes to Israel and receive benefits, like health insurance and social security.
But legally, their residents, not citizens. And many, like Kamir Kabaja (ph) believe when the wall is finished, their homes will technically be outside Jerusalem. And they'll lose their Israeli benefits. So he moved to the old city as well, living in a cramped one room apartment with his wife and five children.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (through translator) I am a Jerusalemite. I have an Israeli ID. Like an Israeli, I should be able to move around as I want.
VAUSE: Once a week, he tries to return to his old house with its seven rooms, a chance for his children to play in the garden.
(on camera): There's no way to know for sure how many Palestinians are moving to the Muslim quarter of the old city. No official figures are kept. There's only anecdotal evidence. Vacant apartments are hard to find. And rents are going up. And many who live here say this neighborhood is becoming another refugee camp.
(voice-over): The cement wall around Jerusalem should be built by the end of next year. Until then, Palestinian officials expect the migration into the old city will only increase. Soon these narrow old streets could be more crowded and cramped than ever before.
John Vause, CNN, Jerusalem.
(END VIDEOTAPE)
NGUYEN: Time now to fast forward for a look at what's expected to make news this week. Health care officials from around the world have converged on Bangkok this week for the international AIDS conference. It begins today and runs through July 16th.
Court martial proceedings were meant to begin Monday against Private Lynndie England at Fort Bragg, North Carolina, but here attorneys were granted a delay on Friday. So they'll meet in court tomorrow to discuss when the procedure might begin. She is accused of prisoner abuse at Abu Ghraib prison in Baghdad.
And Martha Stewart is expected to learn of her fate on Friday. That's the day has set for sentencing. Stewart's request for a new trial was denied last week -- Drew? GRIFFIN: You have heard about Vietnam your whole life, I bet. But could you find it on a map? Coming up next, a man who's going to make you and your kids geography whizzes. Please stay with us.
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GRIFFIN: You're looking at a blank map of the world. We're going to test your knowledge in a moment. Can you identify the Canadian province of Saskatchewan? The African nation of Cameroon? Or how about Taiwan? May not be easy.
Here they are. If you didn't get it right, you are certainly in some very good company. Don't shoot the messenger here, but chances are good that if you were educated in the United States, finding other countries on a map is a real puzzle to you. Knowledge of the world's geography is woefully weak in much of the country. And Roger Andreson, right, is making it his life's work to change that.
Welcome.
ROGER ANDRESON, A BROADER VIEW: Thank you very much.
GRIFFIN: Why are we so terrible in the U.S. with geography?
ANDRESON: Well, I got to tell you, we don't really have a good excuse. I think a lot of us just focus on the world, you know, that we live in from day to day. We go to our jobs every day, focus on career, and forget there's a lot of other things out there dealing with geography.
And you know, geography, international geography in particular, should be important to us all for a wide variety of reasons. I mean, it should be important to you. It's very critical part of your career.
But it should be important to all of us, like me and you guys sitting at home having your first cup of coffee. It's important to you guys, too.
I mean, CNN alone tells us about 30 new countries a day. In order to keep up with this, it's a good idea to have an idea where all these things are.
GRIFFIN: And yet, we'd -- an international competition, 2002...
ANDRESON: Yes.
GRIFFIN: The United States shows up almost last.
ANDRESON: Yes. Eighteen different countries, about 5,000 people between the ages of 18 and 24. And we came in second to last place.
GRIFFIN: Roger, you've come up with an idea to fix that. It's right here. The puzzle. How did you get this idea? And how's it going? ANDRESON: Well, here's what it is. I mean, I was wondering how I could help people. And there's a lot of great tools out there. You have your globe and an atlas.
But the thing about these guys is they're never going to come to you in the morning and say, "Listen, you got to learn 193 countries today." So I was looking for a way to find -- make a product that would basically force people to, in a nice way, force people to figure out where the countries were.
So I came up with this concept called the global puzzle. And it's basically a pretty simple idea. It's a puzzle of the world, but it's unique in the fact that the pieces are actually shaped like the countries of the world. So it's a hands on activity. You've got to take each country and just focus on it, have a little mental connection with that country.
GRIFFIN: And you went out and actually did your own little survey, and found that the average American, or I should say Atlantan, huh, because you were here in Atlanta...
ANDRESON: Yes.
GRIFFIN: ...was able to find how many of these countries?
ANDRESON: Eighteen of the 193 countries. And now that sounds bad on its own, but you got to consider every once and a while, we'd have a guy come along that would know about 160 countries. So to offset this guy, there's a whole bunch of people that know where like two or three countries are. So we are awful.
GRIFFIN: So this is fun? This makes it fun? And kids and adults are learning?
ANDRESON: Yes, you got it. And don't think just because you're an adult, you need to stop learning, because it can be for all ages. It's great for the whole family to put together.
GRIFFIN: All right, so are you going to quiz me?
ANDRESON: Yes. You ready?
GRIFFIN: I don't know. Am I ready, Betty?
NGUYEN: I don't think so. But hey, go for it.
GRIFFIN: All right, here we go.
ANDRESON: All right, well let's start with something pretty easy. Tell me where Somalia is.
GRIFFIN: Somalia, I've been there. Right there.
ANDRESON: Well, that's cheating if you've been there. All right, let's give you a little tougher. Let's go with Cameroon.
GRIFFIN: Cameroon.
ANDRESON: And actually...
GRIFFIN: I think it's in Africa. Cameroon, right there.
ANDRESON: You got it. We've got to give you a map without any of the names on it. OK, here's one. Kiribati.
GRIFFIN: Kiribati? I had that last night. I'm trying to...
ANDRESON: What do you mean you had it last night? That's not fair.
GRIFFIN: I have no idea where Kiribati is. Where is it?
ANDRESON: It's one of the Pacific islands out here. Got it right here. There's a whole bunch of Pacific island countries that no one's ever heard of. In Africa, it's all changing. I mean, you know, if people got an education in geography 40 years ago, this map is -- the new map is totally different.
GRIFFIN: You've got some other products here. How are they being marketed? And how are you doing? Are people generally interested in improving their geography?
ANDRESON: Oh, yes. Like when I did -- took that quiz out on the streets of Atlanta, 80 percent of the people said they had -- well that around -- they had an interest. They felt that they knew nothing about geography. And they wanted to know more.
That's why I decided to make the global puzzle. And we're marketing it throughout the United States. And it's in hundreds of retail stores that can all be found on my Web site, globalpuzzle.com, www.globalpuzzle.com. And we're also selling it online at that site.
GRIFFIN: And you've got other versions. Maybe these are for little kids with some of the animals on them?
ANDRESON: Well, this has all the educational benefits. The pieces are still shaped like countries. It's called the Global Animal Puzzle. And we just added 100 animals from all over the world in their indigenous regions. Just to add an extra element of education.
GRIFFIN: Yes, this looks like a travel job.
ANDRESON: Yes.
GRIFFIN: Or maybe a little placemat.
ANDRESON: Well, the adults were saying we need something for our real young kids. And so, it's a beginner version, where the pieces are shaped like the continents rather, rather than the countries. And as you change the angle at which you look at it, you change what you see.
From one angle, you see the continents and a bunch of landmarks. And from another angle, you'll see all the countries of the world.
GRIFFIN: All right.
ANDRESON: Some kids are fascinated by the lenticular version of it. And it keeps them going. Starting to learn -- get the basics.
GRIFFIN: Roger Andreson, come back next year. See how we do in our geography quiz next year. I'm going to know what's the name of that country I missed.
ANDRESON: Kiribati.
GRIFFIN: Yes, Kiribati. Betty, back to you.
NGUYEN: Kiribati. You know what? Two out of three, not too bad, Drew. Not too bad.
Well, this year marks the 50th anniversary of the first kidney transplant, but the process can still be difficult and confusing. On "house call", Dr. Sanjay Gupta puts to rest the myths surrounding organ donations. He also discusses some of the controversy. That is at 8:30 a.m. Eastern right here on CNN.
John Kerry's picked his running mate. So how long will the honeymoon last? A campaign update when CNN SUNDAY MORNING returns.
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SEN. JOHN KERRY (D-MA), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I am pleased to announce that with your help, the next vice president of the United States of America will be Senator John Edwards from North Carolina.
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NGUYEN: The Democratic duo wraps up a five state introduction tour. National Public Radio's Andrea Seabrook is a regular CNN contributor on things political. And she joins us in our Washington bureau.
Good morning to you.
ANDREA SEABROOK, NPR: Good morning, Betty.
NGUYEN: Well, we want to talk about this match up here and want to take a look at some of the latest numbers. We're going to put those up on the screen for you.
The latest "Newsweek" poll shows that voters who are deciding for president have picked the Kerry-Edwards ticket with 47 percent. Bush- Cheney ticket, 44 percent. And the Nader ticket just 3 percent. How much of a boost did Edwards give Kerry?
SEABROOK: A pretty good boost, actually. You know, it's not only in the poll numbers, although we are seeing some uptick in the numbers across the board for Kerry-Edwards ticket.
It's also in the way that John Kerry is campaigning. Since Tuesday, it's been five days now. John Kerry has been lighter on his feet. He's been a little bit more optimistic.
Also, you know, just seeing him shaking hands, tousling hair...
NGUYEN: A lot of hugging going on.
SEABROOK: ...of being buddy-buddy. Yes. It's been a really sort of -- a week of camaraderie for these two. And that's really given them a positive look to their campaign.
Of course, now the real test is that Mr. Edwards is going out this week on his own. And he'll be campaigning for their ticket. And so, when they're separate, how well will they do? Well, we'll see.
NGUYEN: So you think that three percent is directly attributed to Edwards?
SEABROOK: I think it's part of it. I think Kerry did a good job in picking a guy that will balance out the ticket, but also injects this sort of enthusiasm, and some say youth, though he is 51-years old. I mean, he seems so much younger than John Kerry.
NGUYEN: He looks a lot younger than 51.
SEABROOK: He does, he does. And you know, I think that the big main thing, though, for the campaign was picking someone who could go out on their own. This next week will really see the trial of picking a guy who could go out on his own and really campaign for the ticket by himself.
NGUYEN: I want to take a look at some other numbers. When Cheney is pitted against Edwards in the polls, put that up on the screen for you, Cheney's favorable rating is 46 percent. His unfavorable rating is 43 percent.
Now check out Edwards numbers. 52 percent favorable, 25 percent unfavorable. Historically, people don't vote for vice president. But in this case, it is making a difference, isn't it?
SEABROOK: You know, most of us tend to think that it does make some kind of difference. I mean, part of this is, though, that Vice President Cheney has had to do a lot of uncomfortable things for the last four years.
Part of it is also that the Bush-Cheney campaign has pursued this strategy of making President Bush, insulating him from anything that could possibly be controversial or seen as negative in any way, and giving that all to Vice President Cheney to bear the burden of.
And so, you know, part of it is the campaign's own fault in some ways, that Cheney has such bad unfavorables. Also, John Edwards ran such a positive campaign in the primaries, that whether you are a Democrat or a Republican, or anywhere across the political spectrum, people respected John Edwards.
And so, that could change, though. I mean, the traditional role of vice president in this kind of campaign scenario is to be the bad cop, is to be the bulldog, you know, the one that's really going to point out the differences, instead of just being positive.
And you know, if the John Kerry, John Edwards ticket decides to go that route, those numbers could change significantly.
NGUYEN: Well, quickly, despite those unfavorable numbers, for Cheney, the president says he's not taking him off the ticket. But if he does for some reason, we want to look at some poll numbers now that show that if Bush runs with Powell, should we say, he gets a 53 percent jump. And Kerry-Edwards just 44.
And if he decides on McCain, Senator McCain, 49 percent to the Kerry-Edwards, 47 percent. So how much of a liability has Cheney become for Bush?
SEABROOK: Well, I think probably those numbers reflect better the popularity of Colin Powell and of John McCain than they do the relative unpopularity of Vice President Cheney.
I mean, Powell and McCain are two moderate Republicans, who have done a pretty good job of making a good image in the Republican party. And you know, Vice President Cheney, as I said before, has had to do a lot of bull dog work in this last four years and in the last few months certainly.
Then again, you know, no one think's it's very likely this idea that Cheney would be there. And you know, President Bush has said Cheney would make a good president, you know, referring to his vice president, trying to support him in some ways.
So you know, like I said, none of us think it's really that likely that Cheney would be dropped from the ticket. It would be a big admission of having such a big liability on the ticket for President Bush to go that direction.
NGUYEN: Well, Bush has already said that he's not going to do it. So...
SEABROOK: Yes.
NGUYEN: ...we shall see. All right, Andrea Seabrook, National Public Radio. Thank you so much.
SEABROOK: Thank you.
NGUYEN: And be sure to tune in to "Inside Politics" coming up this morning on CNN at 10:00 Eastern. We'll take an early look at the two tickets and their prospects for November.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Oh, my God! (END VIDEO CLIP)
GRIFFIN: Home sweet home for some happy folks. The airport wait finally over. This is a reunion to remember. We'll bring it to you when CNN SUNDAY MORNING returns.
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GRIFFIN: Welcome back to CNN SUNDAY MORNING. I'm Drew Griffin.
In the headlines right now, four U.S. Marines have been killed in the western Iraqi province of al Anbar. A U.S. soldier and an Iraqi civilian were killed earlier today as well by a roadside bomb near Mosul.
The wife and brother of Filipino hostage will travel to Iraq in an effort to negotiate for his release. The Philippine government has been given until tonight to comply with demands that Filipino troops leave Iraq by July 20th, something that the Philippines say they will not do.
And in Israel, Palestinian militants have claimed responsibility for a bomb today at a Tel Aviv bus stop. One person was killed, four others seriously hurt.
NGUYEN: We've heard a lot about how U.S. troops spend their time in Iraq, but what's it like for soldiers who finally get that long awaited trip home for a little bit of R&R?
Well, Maria Hinojosa just happened to be at the airport when she ran into a group of soldiers.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Oh, my God! Hi, baby. Hi, Mommy.
Give daddy a kiss. I love you.
MARIA HINOJOSA, CNN CORRESPONDENT: You're a police officer.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes.
HINOJOSA: On the streets of New York. And you've been doing what for the past three months?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I've been patrolling the streets of Baghdad. There's quite a difference.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I get to see my daughter, Eva Rose.
HINOJOSA: And she was born?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: She was born 4th of July. She's daddy's baby, born for all the troops out in Iraq, in support of Iraq. She decided to come out and support us. It's a great day.
HINOJOSA: How are you doing?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I'm just -- I feel numb right now. I'm just so excited, beyond excited. I can't even explain how I feel right now.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I'm just -- I'm going to show up to the house and surprise the family. They don't know I'm coming. They still think I'm in Iraq somewhere. I'm actually going to call them on the phone and tell them that I'm in a big fire fight. And I'm going to hang up the phone. Then I'm going to ring the bell. It's going to be fun. They'll love it. They're up to stuff like that. Devious.
HINOJOSA: How do you relax just for two weeks, knowing that you're going to go back to maybe seeing combat?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I mean, you really can't. All you can do is spend as much time with your family, try to enjoy the things that you used to, but you really can't.
HINOJOSA: And there are a lot of things that you can't talk to your family about what you're seeing over there. How do you handle with keeping a lot of this inside, you can't talk about it, how do you handle it?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I mean, I just try not to really open my mouth too much, because if I tell them everything, it's like they're going to be worried even more, you know? Go, try to keep it positive, try some of the good stuff. And hopefully, it'll be over soon and I get to come home.
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NGUYEN: Oh, what a great welcome home for those troops.
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