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Pakistanis Protest U.S. Air Strike; Emir of Kuwait Dies
Aired January 15, 2006 - 07:00 ET
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BETTY NGUYEN, CNN ANCHOR: Angry anti-American protests all across Pakistan today. Thousands of people braved the rain and cold to demonstrate against the United States and Pakistani President Musharraf. The protesters denounced a reported CIA air strike Friday which killed 18 people in a remote village near the Afghan border. The target of that strike was said to be al Qaeda's number two man, Ayman al-Zawahiri. There are conflicting reports, though, about where he was at the time and if he was even there.
A Gulf Arab ruler and U.S. ally is dead this morning. The emir of Kuwait, Jaber Al-Ahmed Al-Sabah, died today after a long illness. He was 77. Sheikh Jaber ruled the tiny oil-rich nation since 1977.
And take a look at these live pictures right now. A NASA capsule has landed after a very long journey. A helicopter has that capsule and all of the information inside it right now and is transporting it to the ground.
The capsule released by the Stardust mothership is carrying comet dust -- we'll be talking about that -- as it plummeted through the Earth's atmosphere and landed in the Utah desert just about two hours ago. It is ending a seven-year trip into deep space.
Did you see it? Were you able to snap some pictures of it? Because if you were, we want to see them.
E-mail us, weekends@cnn.com, and we'll show some of those pictures throughout the morning.
Well, the wife of Indianapolis Colts quarterback Nick Harper is in jail this morning for alleged allegedly cutting him with a knife. Sheriff's officials say Danielle Harper is being held without bond on charges of battery with a deadly weapon and criminal recklessness. Nick Harper was treated for a minor knee injury, and it's unclear whether he'll play in today's AFC divisional playoff game against Pittsburgh.
Good morning, everybody.
From the CNN Center, this is CNN SUNDAY MORNING. It's Sunday, January 15, 7:00 a.m. here in Atlanta and 5:00 a.m. at the Dugway Proving Ground in Utah.
I'm Betty Nguyen.
TONY HARRIS, CNN ANCHOR: I'm Tony Harris. Daniel Sieberg is with us.
NGUYEN: We have lots of -- great information on this Stardust capsule.
HARRIS: It's a big deal.
Daniel's with us first thing in the morning.
NGUYEN: I know. Hey, Daniel doesn't get up just for anything. OK.
HARRIS: How about that?
Coming up in this first hour of CNN SUNDAY MORNING, almost 37 years after his assassination, Greenville, South Carolina, sheds its stereotypes to celebrate the legacy of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.
Also, what does the sound of your voice reveal about you? One man found out. Now he's fighting back.
Nearly five months after Hurricane Katrina, the wheels are on the trailers for temporary housing, but the wheels at FEMA aren't turning fast enough, especially for people still living in tents.
NGUYEN: All right.
We want to get you back to that stunning triumph for NASA. A space capsule carrying tiny particles of dust from a comet has landed to lots of cheers. Look at that at NASA. The Stardust mothership released the capsule about two hours ago as it closed into 69,000 miles from Earth.
So joining us now is our technology correspondent, Daniel Sieberg. Told you, he doesn't get up for just anything.
DANIEL SIEBERG, CNN TECHNOLOGY CORRESPONDENT: Hey, for space I'll get up early.
NGUYEN: You'll get up early for that?
SIEBERG: For Stardust, you bet.
NGUYEN: This was quite an amazing return to Earth, what, 29,000 miles per hour this capsule dropped down?
SIEBERG: It did, and it's now being brought in by a helicopter. We've got some live pictures we can show you of NASA transporting this capsule.
You can see the helicopter right here. It's pretty dark. It's at Michael Army Airfield, just across the street from Dugway Proving Grounds in Utah.
What's in here in the helicopter which they will be taking out is the capsule, about the size of a tire. It weighs about 100 pounds, and it's containing these samples from the comet.
They're going to take this capsule. It's essentially doubly bagged to protect it from any sort of contamination from the Earth. They're going to eventually take it to the Johnson Space Center in Houston and analyze these samples. So a very important mission for NASA.
NGUYEN: Well, something I think that we were talking about as we understand this stardust that was captured in there in this capsule, you said it kind of looks like a honeycomb inside...
SIEBERG: Yes.
NGUYEN: ... and there's gel there that collected the stardust.
SIEBERG: Exactly. We can walk people through sort of what happened in the last few hours or so. We have some -- some animation that shows where exactly the capsule traveled as it made its way back into Earth.
What you can see here is the trajectory of it. This is the capsule right here as it goes over parts of Oregon and Nevada, into Utah, eventually making its way down.
Now, we have also some infrared, because of course it's pitch black out there in the middle of the salt flats in Utah. So they used infrared to capture it coming down.
NGUYEN: Yes.
SIEBERG: You can just see it here. At this point the parachute had not actually -- there it is up here -- had not actually deployed. So there were some anxious moments as it made its way down.
NGUYEN: Just a little ray of light is what it looks like.
SIEBERG: Right. It just looks like a little ray of light. And as it made its way down, eventually this parachute did deploy.
So it came down with a fairly gentle landing. Apparently, it bounced a few times. Then they had to send the helicopters out into the salt flats to actually retrieve the samples.
And we can just show you now exactly how the NASA scientists reacted when they discovered what had happened.
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We have touchdown!
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SIEBERG: And to sort of summarize just briefly why this is so important, the samples they retrieved from the comet are believed to be some clues as to the building blocks of how the solar system formed four and a half billion years ago.
NGUYEN: Oh, that's all, just a little something like that.
SIEBERG: Just that little thing, yes. Sort of the origins of life and so on, et cetera.
NGUYEN: Right.
SIEBERG: So they're going to be analyzing these and trying to find some clues about all of that.
NGUYEN: It's just so fascinating, Daniel. I know that we're going to be speaking with you throughout the morning...
SIEBERG: Yes.
NGUYEN: ... about the details of all of this. We could spend so much time talking to you about it.
SIEBERG: Well, they'll be spending weeks and years and, you know, a lot of time with these samples.
NGUYEN: Learning from all of this.
SIEBERG: Exactly, yes.
NGUYEN: All right. We'll talk to you soon, Daniel.
SIEBERG: All right. You bet.
HARRIS: More tragedy in a school shooting drama. It all began Friday at a Florida middle school. The boy shot by a S.W.A.T. team member is now brain dead.
Fifteen-year-old Christopher Penley is being kept alive so his organs can be donated. Witnesses at the Orlando-area schools say the scene unfolded quickly Friday. They say Penley ran through the school with what looked like a real gun.
CNN's J.J. Ramberg is in Altamonte Springs, Florida, where people are still trying to figure out how this could happen.
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MARK NATION, PENLEY FAMILY ATTORNEY: It's a pellet gun that's been painted black, and he was on his way there to help talk his son out of this situation.
J.J. RAMBERG, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice over): The lawyer for Christopher Penley's family told reporters that Chris's father was devastated and extremely angry at police. The father also says he could have talked his son into surrendering.
NATION: When he got to the school, they would not let him in, and he was later told that Christopher had been shot. RAMBERG: Friday, police say 15-year-old Christopher Penley was in a classroom in his central Florida middle school and pulled out what looked like a .9 millimeter pistol.
MAURICE COTEY, 7TH GRADER: We were in the classroom and we were about to do a test. And then one of my classmates said this kid has a gun.
RAMBERG: Thirteen-year-old Maurice Cotey and his mother recount his frightening encounter on Friday.
COTEY: Everyone ran out of the classroom except for me and this one girl, and we were walking, and he said, "You stay." So the girl, she ran out of the classroom, and he told me to get up against the blackboard, and I did, and he put the gun to my back, and then we -- then I told him, "Please don't shoot me, please don't shoot me."
So I was walking, then he got me towards the closet door. He turned me around, and he said -- and he started to point the gun at me. So I started to grab for it.
I pointed it near his legs, and he kicked me into the closet. And I still had the gun twisted, and then he pulled -- he ran into the closet, and that got me up, and then I pushed him and I ran out of the classroom.
RAMBERG: The sheriff says officers ordered the eighth grader to drop the gun. Instead, they say, he took aim at police, and a member of the S.W.A.T. team shot Penley.
The gun turned out to be a pellet gun, painted, police say, to look just like a real firearm.
LT. MIKE WEIPPERT, SEMINOLE COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT: This is the actual firearm held by the subject inside of the -- the one that I'm holding during the incident. And as you can see, it looks almost identical to the one that Zach Hauley (ph) is holding, which is the actual real .9 millimeter handgun.
RAMBERG (on camera): Ralph Penley's lawyer said that they're not making any accusations and they're not pointing any fingers, but they felt the information they discussed should be out in the public. We called the police, who said that at this point they're not making any comment. There is an ongoing investigation into this incident.
J.J. Ramberg, CNN, Altamonte Springs, Florida.
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HARRIS: Boy. The only survivor of the Sago Mine disaster remains in critical condition this morning. At last check, doctors in West Virginia say he's now breathing without the help of a ventilator.
This afternoon, a memorial service takes place at West Virginia Wesleyan College to honor the 12 workers who died in the Sago Mine. McCloy's family is expected to attend. The Sago Mine service begins at 2:00 p.m. Eastern.
Now, coming up at the half-hour, we will talk with the organizer of the Hope, Honor and Healing service. And be sure to tune in for live coverage of the miners' memorial service.
Again, that starts at 2:00 p.m. Eastern.
NGUYEN: Here are some other story its making news "Across America" this morning.
In south Florida, attorneys for two teens suspected of beating homeless men are negotiating their surrender. This brutal attack -- look at it here -- with baseball bats was captured on a security camera. Both teens are reportedly out of the state and have not been arrested. They could face murder charges in the death of one man and aggravated battery in the beating of two others.
The attorney for a second man accused in the killing of "New York Times" journalist David Rosenbaum says his client didn't do it. Percy Jordan, Jr. had a court appearance yesterday. Rosenbaum was struck in the head and robbed near his home in Washington. The 63-year-old had been a reporter and editor for the newspaper for more than 35 years.
Firefighters in Oklahoma are dealing with a red-flag warning for extreme fire danger today. Wind gusts up to 40 miles per hour and temperatures in the 70s are expected. The panhandle of Texas and eastern New Mexico are also under extreme fire danger warnings today.
HARRIS: They can't get a break there.
People across the country will observe the holiday marking Martin Luther King, Jr.'s birthday tomorrow. And for the first time, Greenville County, South Carolina, will recognize the holiday for the first time by giving employees a paid day off.
Greenville was the last of South Carolina's 46 counties to observe the holiday. This year's celebration kicked off with a banquet.
Leah Johnson from our affiliate station WSPA has more.
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LEAH JOHNSON, REPORTER, WSPA (voice over): This is where hundreds of people are looking to be inspired while keeping in mind the legacy of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Well, it's a celebration that I wanted to be a part of because, you know, last year in Greenville, it was such a struggle for Dr. Martin Luther King's birthday to be recognized in Greenville County.
JOHNSON: That struggle in the end gave way to a county holiday in King's honor and people a reason to celebrate. With standing room only, an overwhelming crowd filled every inch of this Greenville ballroom. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It speaks volumes for how Greenville is willing to come forward and shed that negative image of old stereotypes and show that we are a very diverse community.
JOHNSON: Celebrating with the county is Dr. King's youngest daughter.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: But of all the places in America that she could go, she came to Greenville, South Carolina.
BERNICE KING, MARTIN LUTHER KING'S DAUGHTER: It's easy for most of us to come to ceremonies and applaud it. But it's much more difficult for us to seek, to capture that same spirit and make the sacrifices necessary for the next generation.
JOHNSON: In her speech, Dr. Bernice King spoke of moving beyond the celebration of her father's dream and inspired people to spring into action. Words of wisdom to a county that has already come a long way.
KING: And if you're really going to live your full life, if you're really going to live your full essence, you're going to have to up this ante.
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HARRIS: And how about this: Dr. Bernice King will join us in a couple of hours. We'll talk more about her trip to Greenville and the controversy over the future of the King Center here in Atlanta, Betty. We'll also take a look at the new leaders of the civil rights movement. That's in our 9:00 a.m. hour.
NGUYEN: But right now, we want to hear from you. Has the message of hope, peace and advancement been diluted over the years? What do you think?
E-mail us your thoughts. Our address: weekends@cnn.com.
Speaking of the civil rights movement and equal rights, consider this: what if the sound of your voice could deny you a home, a job or a loan? One man says it happened to him and is he taking his dilemma to court. CNN investigates.
HARRIS: Also, the run for the record books continues in soggy Seattle. Bonnie will -- will -- I don't know, will Seattle be catching a bit of a break today? It would be nice.
Good morning, Bonnie.
BONNIE SCHNEIDER, CNN METEOROLOGIST: Good morning.
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HARRIS: And good morning, everyone. Some of our top stories for you right now.
Anger in Pakistan. Thousands turn out in protest across the country after a U.S. air strike kills 18 people on Friday. U.S. officials say the CIA was targeting an al Qaeda leader. But Pakistani authorities say the leader was not in the area.
Divers are recovering bodies from a boat accident in the Philippines. At least 16 people drowned when an overloaded boat capsized during a sea parade. Authorities say one person fell overboard. The others rushed to that side to see what happened. And there you go.
And NASA's Stardust mission comes to an end. The space probe releases a capsule carrying comet dust after a seven-year, three- billion-mile voyage.
All right. Help us out. E-mail us if you captured any images of the capsule as it streaked across the western sky. There's the address, weekends@cnn.com.
NGUYEN: Imagine someone turning you down for a mortgage or an apartment just because of the sound of your voice over the phone. You are about to meet a man who says it happened to him, and he is fighting back.
Jason Carroll has this CNN investigation.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Hi. I'm calling about the sales position I saw advertised.
JASON CARROLL, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): What can you tell about someone simply by the way they sound on the phone?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Hi. I'm calling to get information about mortgage rates.
CARROLL: A caller's gender might seem obvious. But what about other characteristics?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Hi. I read your ad in the paper about the apartment for rent.
CARROLL: Like a person's race. It is a sensitive subject for James Robinson, a mental health professional living in Saint Louis.
JAMES ROBINSON, APARTMENT SEEKER: The more I thought it, the more angry I was becoming.
CARROLL: Robinson believes he was denied an apartment because, he says, he has what linguists call an African-American dialect.
(on camera): And this was the sign that you saw.
ROBINSON: This was the sign that was posted out front. And I got the number that you see at the bottom. And that's when I made my call.
CARROLL (voice-over): Robinson was told at first he had reached an answering service. Then, he says, something else odd happened.
ROBINSON: And I hear the voices muffled in the background. And she was telling the woman I was on the phone inquiring about a two- bedroom apartment. And the other woman asks, what does he sound like?
CARROLL: Robinson says the woman then told him nothing was available and hung up.
ROBINSON: I just kind of sat there for a moment and just kept rethinking the whole conversation over and over.
CARROLL: Suspicious of his treatment, Robinson decided to conduct an experiment. He had a Latino friend call and then an African-American friend call the building. Both were told nothing was available. Then Robinson reached out to one of his white friends.
JIM LADD, FRIEND: James did call me and said, will you -- will you call this complex and....
CARROLL: Who says he called and got a much different response.
LADD: She said, we do have some apartments available.
CARROLL: Robinson took his findings to the Saint Louis Equal Housing Opportunity Council.
KATINA COMBS, SAINT LOUIS EQUAL HOUSING OPPORTUNITY COUNCIL: We definitely hear and see a lot about voice profiling.
CARROLL: The EHOC conducted their own investigation, finding similar results, and filed a complaint on Robinson's behalf with the Missouri Commission on Human Rights. An attorney for the building told CNN, "There is no evidence of any discrimination on my clients' part. The building in question is racially mixed."
(on camera): Would you call it a subtle form of discrimination or no? I mean, maybe that's just my words. What -- what -- what do you -- how do you qualify it?
COMBS: It is very subtle, extremely subtle. It is not like it used to be years ago, where you had signs in the yard that said, "For whites only" or "No coloreds allowed."
CARROLL (voice-over): So, to keep tabs on voice profiling, the EHOC constantly run tests. On the day we visit, a white and black tester call a different building, where another complaint has been filed.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Are you looking for yourself?
CARROLL: Both are asked about employment and the type of apartment they need. But the black caller is told he needs to check out the area first. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes. You can stop by and see the area. And if you like it, then you can call us and we can show you the apartment.
CARROLL: He's then asked more questions never asked of the white tester.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: How much approximately -- I don't want to know exact -- but approximately how much you are making every month?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Well, I make about $31,000 per year.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: And never had any problem?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No. No. I have never been late on my rent.
CARROLL: The white tester is told of the apartment's amenities, never mentioned to the black caller.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: And it has washer and dryer in it.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: OK.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Dishwasher also, has garbage disposal, self- cleaning oven and a refrigerator.
CARROLL: In the end, the white caller is offered an appointment to see the unit. The black caller is never contacted.
PROFESSOR JOHN BAUGH, WASHINGTON UNIVERSITY: We have seen it throughout the country.
CARROLL: Professor John Baugh isn't surprised by the experiment's outcome. He's a linguistic expert who has written extensively about voice profiling and has run many tests of his own.
BAUGH: Using my professional voice, I called around and was told, please come and look at the apartments. But I would call back, and I modify my dialect a little bit, you understand, and I will call and I would say, hello, I'm calling about the apartment you have advertised in the paper. And when I used that rendition, I found that I got less of a positive response rate.
CARROLL: Baugh says only through testing, accountability and education can there ever be change.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You know, it's pretty much a shame, you know, that a person is not even given the chance to at least apply.
CARROLL: James Robinson's case is still pending. He says, despite the effort he has put into this, it has been worth it to show that a person's true character isn't determined by how they sound.
Jason Carroll, CNN, St. Louis, Missouri.
(END VIDEOTAPE) NGUYEN: Doors will open today at the largest church in West Virginia. They are inviting friends and family to remember the Sago miners.
HARRIS: And coming up next, we'll talk to the organizer of today's service and how she hopes to honor the men who died and heal the community spirit.
And later, wasted money and broken promises? We're keeping leaders honest as to why thousands of Katrina evacuees are still living in tents.
We'll be right back.
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HARRIS: You know, I was watching that football game yesterday, as we see this truck virtually submerged in water out there in Seattle. And it was nasty. It was nasty.
NGUYEN: And that place has gotten what now? Twenty-seven days of rain.
HARRIS: Yes.
NGUYEN: Twenty-seven straight days.
HARRIS: So, sloshing around -- I'm supposed to read this. It says slosh, splash. It's too early in the morning. I can't put it all together at 7:00 in the morning.
NGUYEN: You're not selling it, no.
HARRIS: Rainiest year ever in Seattle. 1953 is what you have to go back to, when it rained for 33 days in a row. Right now we're up to 27 days.
NGUYEN: Right. Just six days away.
HARRIS: And I guess there's a bit of a hopeful sign here. High waters in the rivers beginning to subside just a bit. So there you go, good news there, hopefully.
NGUYEN: Yes, a little bit of good news. Hopefully...
HARRIS: Some sunshine.
NGUYEN: ... they won't reach that record mark. But, you know, some folks are getting the rain in the form of snow, Bonnie?
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HARRIS: You know, we've been telling the same story with the fires and...
NGUYEN: And the rain out West. HARRIS: Were you just talking about that? Same story. Same weather story.
All right, Bonnie. Thank you.
SCHNEIDER: Sure.
Late last night, drama off the field.
NGUYEN: Much drama.
HARRIS: Oh, boy. It really could affect the playoff chances for the Indianapolis Colts. We'll explain coming up.
NGUYEN: And later, the trailers are there, just look at them, but Katrina evacuees can't move in. And the reason will outrage you. We are keeping them honest.
CNN SUNDAY MORNING continues in just a moment.
A devastated community gathers today to remember and honor the 12 miners lost inside the Sago mine. We want to welcome you back on a Sunday morning. I'm Betty Nguyen.
HARRIS: And I'm Tony Harris. We'll preview that service in a moment, but first, a look at news happening right now.
Laura Bush will mark Martin Luther King Day in Africa this year. The first lady is heading a delegation to Liberia to attend the inauguration of Africa's first female head of state. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice is also there for the swearing in of Liberia's new president, Ellen Johnson-Sirleaf.
Bad news if you've got the flu. Two treatments are now nearly useless in guarding against the flu. The CDC tested the drugs and found they were ineffective 91 percent of the time against this season's dominant strain. But doctors still have other options like Tamiflu which is the primary drug being used against the flu in most places.
She made a name for herself playing brassy outspoken women in Hollywood. Now that long career has come to an end. Two-time Oscar winner Shelley Winters died of heart failure yesterday in a rehabilitation center in Beverly Hills. Winters was 85. In recent years, she played Roseanne Barr's grandmother on the sitcom "Roseanne."
NGUYEN: Family and friends mourn today and a community tries to heal. The 12 miners who have died in the Sago mine tragedy will be remembered this afternoon. It was nearly two weeks ago that day and survivor Randy McCloy entered the West Virginia mine and became trapped by an explosion. Just last week, family and friends bid farewell to their loved ones in a series of funerals. The Reverend Angela Gay Kinkead of West Virginia Wesleyan College joins us now from Buchanan, West Virginia to talk about today's memorial. Reverend, I want to thank you for being with us. Talk to me a little bit about the service today and I imagine the entire town is going to be coming out for that.
REV. ANGELA GAY KINKEAD, W.VA. WESLEYAN COLLEGE: We expect so. It's actually the community is now defined as the world, I think, in many ways. There are people coming from various parts of the country. We know people coming from Kansas, from Ohio, Indiana, Alabama, to honor these miners and their families in this community and support us.
NGUYEN: And as we wait and we'll watch, of course, the memorial service which will be aired here live on CNN, I have to ask you, will any of the family members be speaking today in remembrance of their loved ones?
KINKEAD: We do understand that two of the family members have asked to just say some remarks to the community. They'll be very brief, but I think words of appreciation and statements of faith.
NGUYEN: How are you helping these family members cope? I mean, when anyone dies, it doesn't matter who it is, it's always very difficult to understand and to get a grasp of. How are you helping them with the whys and what next?
KINKEAD: Well, I think there's a core of pastors and counselors who have surrounded them from the very beginning and even today, some of those pastors and counselors will be with the families, with our special guests to help and support them and keep them focused on again, the honor, the hope and the healing that today's service, we hope, provides a foundation for.
NGUYEN: I know that you're going to be honoring or remembering the miners killed. Are there any special nuggets of information that will be introduced, little special moments in these miners' lives that will be shared today as a celebration of life?
KINKEAD: Well, we'll be lighting candles of honor at the beginning of the service. Each family will step forward and light a candle. Randy McCloy's candle is a candle of color. The others will be white and they'll each be given a memento that the local committee has selected, something they can hang onto, and they will also be supported today by the Red Cross. They'll hand out bears to the people coming, that will, just something people can hold onto, their standard kind of a standard bear handed out by the Red Cross. We just have a lot of support today from community organizations and from individuals.
NGUYEN: Do you think this tragedy has brought the town closer together? These families closer together or have they grieved separately in their own way?
KINKEAD: I'm really not sure about the families. I've not been in direct contact with the families, but I think as a community, we've just worked incredibly well together this week and come together and stayed focus on the families, stayed focused on what our mission is.
NGUYEN: It's going to be a difficult day, no doubt, but obviously the focus is on a celebration of life to honor these men who were killed, unfortunately, in this tragedy. Reverend, we appreciate your time today.
KINKEAD: Thank you, Betty.
NGUYEN: Once again the miners' memorial begins at 2:00 Eastern this afternoon. You can depend on CNN to bring it live to you. Then you want to tune in for a special "Larry King Live" tonight, "Honor, Hope and Healing," the memorial service and family members. It begins at 9:00 Eastern.
HARRIS: Checking some of the stories we will be covering this week, the nation remembers Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. tomorrow. This is the 20th year of celebrating MLK day as a national holiday. It has a special meaning this year. It follows the death in October of civil rights symbol Rosa Parks.
NASA anticipates a postcard from Pluto about nine years from now. The new horizon space probe is set to launch on Tuesday. Pluto is the last unexplored planet in our solar system.
And the 2005 Sundance film festival kicks off Friday in Park City, Utah. This year there's the Sundance online film festival, I didn't know about this, at www.sundance.org, so everyone can participate.
NGUYEN: Oh! That's neat.
HARRIS: It sounds like that deja vu all over again, a big name athlete and an injured knee, but this time it all happened off the field and now a playoff berth could be on the line. We'll tell you all about it.
NGUYEN: And speaking about playoffs, both games are in the Midwest today. We'll get you caught up on those and the weather. Stay tuned.
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NGUYEN: This just in, some live pictures now of a funeral, a Gulf Arab ruler. Also a U.S. ally is dead. The emir of Kuwait, Sheikh Jaber Al-Ahmed Al-Sabah, died after a long illness. He died today. He was 77 years old. The sheikh ruled the tiny oil-rich nation since 1977. Look at the mourners who have come to respect what this sheikh, this leader has done for the country. They've come out in just droves for this funeral. Just to give you a little bit of history about him, the emir of Kuwait survived an assassination attempt in the 1980s and a decade later escaped Iraqi troops invading his oil-rich Persian Gulf state. Now he had been in poor health since suffering from a brain hemorrhage five years ago. But again, we have learned that the emir of Kuwait as you see the live funerals right now, has died today after a long illness. He was 77 years old.
In other news, after seven years and nearly 3 billion miles through the solar system, the Stardust spacecraft flew over earth about two and a half hours ago, releasing a capsule carrying a sample of dust from a comet. Mission Stardust is the first of its kind dedicated solely to the exploration of comets. Thousands of people gathered in cities across Pakistan to demonstrate against both their president and the U.S. in the wake of Friday's deadly air strike. Al Qaeda leader Ayman al Zawahiri was the reported target of that strike. Eighteen people were killed, including women and children. Pakistani intelligence officials say al Zawahiri was not among the dead.
And the presiding judge in the Saddam Hussein trial plans to resign today. Rizgar Mohammed Amin says he will stay on the tribunal, but doesn't want to be the leading judge. Whether the high tribunal will accept the request is still unknown.
HARRIS: Well, whatever else happens, there will be a new Super Bowl champion this year. The New England Patriots ended their two-year championship streak last night losing 27-13 to the Denver Broncos.
In Seattle in the rain, the hotter than spit Seahawks ended - hotter than spit -- ended 21 years of post-season drought, beating another hotter than expected team, the Washington Redskins, final score 20-10. The Super Bowl scramble continues later today with Carolina going up against last year's NFC champs, Chicago. Is that (INAUDIBLE) The Indianapolis Colts host the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Some drama behind the football scores to tell you about this morning, that's for sure. This comes from Indianapolis, where Colts quarterback Nick Harper was taken to a hospital last night with knife wounds to his knee. It's questionable whether he'll play later today. His wife, Danielle Harper, is in jail this morning, charged with cutting him with a knife. According to doctors, Harper's injuries were not serious.
NGUYEN: My-my. Well, American skater Michelle Kwan has one more chance to chase that elusive Olympic gold. A selection committee gave Kwan a medal bye. Kwan missed last night's U.S. national due to a groin injury. However, the nine-time U.S. and five-time world champion must prove by January 27th that she's fully recovered and able to compete. You know she will be. Hopefully she will be. Sasha Cohen earned her spot on the Olympic team by winning the U.S. figure skating championships last night. She is just such a wonder on the ice, good team, great U.S. team that they're putting together.
HARRIS: I'm glad that Kwan's going to be there in there. She's fabulous.
NGUYEN: And she's got to be well though by the 27th.
HARRIS: I hope she is.
Five months later and thousands in New Orleans are still desperate for housing. FEMA says it has trailers ready to go but there's still a holdup. We'll take you inside the frustration when CNN SUNDAY MORNING continues.
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NGUYEN: While these travel trailers sit parked, roughly 5,000 Mississippi families are still waiting for a trailer just to live in. It's been four months since hurricane Katrina destroyed their homes. Now a Federal official is placing blame telling Congress there's a lack of coordination among utility companies in Mississippi. And the complaints about FEMA and the trailers aren't limited to Mississippi. CNN's Gary Tuchman is keeping them honest in this report from St. Bernard Parish.
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GARY TUCHMAN, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): These days, it's not easy to think positive in St. Bernard Parish, not with thousands of homeless people still waiting, many of them in tents, for FEMA trailers to live in.
JOEY DIFATTA, ST. BERNARD PARISH COUNCILMAN: We have 6,000 folks applied for trailers in the St. Bernard Parish. There are roughly 1,300 were delivered.
TUCHMAN: These trailers being installed by FEMA contractors are still empty. Katrina victims say they were told the construction would be complete by Christmas. So why is all this taking so long? FEMA says it's working against unprecedented obstacles. Is it fair to say that in the beginning you weren't that satisfied with the pace?
MARK MISCZAK, FEMA: I think that none of us were satisfied to think that we were actually meeting the need in the time frame the disaster victims would be happy with.
TUCHMAN: Not happy would describe homeless Jim Laciardi, owner of a destroyed mobile home park. So how long did you and your family own this mobile home park?
JIM LACIARDI: About 50 years.
TUCHMAN: Fifty years. So when you see it like this, see it like this four months after the hurricane, what goes through your mind?
LACIARDI: It's unbelievable. It's heartbreaking to see what we built years ago, my father and to see it like this.
TUCHMAN: Laciardi says he was told by FEMA nearly three months ago they would remove the wreckage and put its trailers in his park. He says the hookups are all ready and the price would be a lot cheaper for FEMA than land like this with no hookups but nothing's happened.
LACIARDI: There's a lot of wasted money going on down here.
TUCHMAN: After we talked with mobile park owners, FEMA had this news for us. The decision had been made to put trailers in the devastated mobile home parks.
MISCZAK: We had to make sure that it was appropriate and that it was legal and that took a little bit of time, but it certainly is an option available to us now.
TUCHMAN: While most of the residents in this hard-hit parish still wait, some seem luckier than others. But talk to Joy Melerine, who just moved into her trailer last week in front of her gutted house.
JOY MELERINE, TRAILER RESIDENTS: They put the trailer there but they wouldn't set up the utility pole to run the energy. That took over six weeks to get them to do that and someone broke in, using a key that the contractor stores here at the trailer, which I didn't know in the heater panel, they used a key and opened up my trailer and took everything inside, my furniture and household items, blankets, everything.
TUCHMAN: You were robbed in your trailer.
MELERINE: Yeah, I lost everything I owned twice in three months is how I look at it.
TUCHMAN: That's incredible.
MELERINE: It is heartbreaking.
TUCHMAN: There is no shortage of heartbreak in St. Bernard Parish.
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HARRIS: Moving ahead now, binding the devil, laying hands and working miracles Betty. Coming up in our next hour, one Jewish photographer takes us inside a Christian tent revival. How the miracle was captured on film, helped him to define his faith. We'll be right back.
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NGUYEN: This is just a prediction, but I feel that Tony is going to have another day just like yesterday, which means he's going to be sitting on the couch...
HARRIS: ...watching the game.
NGUYEN: Watching football all day long.
HARRIS: Let's see, we got two games today and the weather will be a factor in one of them.
BONNIE SCHNEIDER, CNN METEOROLOGIST: That's right.
HARRIS: But the Indianapolis game is in a dome, so it's under control.
NGUYEN: Still, football weather, actually really good football weather.
HARRIS: Chicago is what we're talking about.
SCHNEIDER: Chicago, Indianapolis, it all looks good and that's good news. It's a good thing the game is not in the northeast today. That's where it's snowing and really really (INAUDIBLE).
All right, let's take a look at the football forecast now. We're going to start even though the game is inside in Indianapolis, we can show you what the weather will be like outside if you're going to be heading there to catch the game. Colts versus the Steelers in Indianapolis, we'll look for a temperature about 42 degrees when the game starts at 1:00 Eastern time.
And as we check things out in Chicago not a bad day at all, actually quite nice, partly cloudy skies. We'll look for a high temperature there about 40 degrees, 4:30 p.m. for that game. So that should keep you pretty busy out there in the world of football.
But unfortunately, up in the northeast, it is cold, brutally cold. We've got temperatures this morning with heavy snow in Albany at 20 degrees. In Boston the temperature is 28 degrees, New York City checking in at 25. Because of the strong winds, it feels so much colder than it actually is. Look at this, it feels like it's only 11 in New York City and north of Boston in the city of Manchester, New Hampshire, we're looking at wind chill factors today negative one. So I know folks in New Hampshire not in a good mood due to the Patriots loss last night.
Unfortunately the weather not going to cheer you up either. We've got snow in the forecast and brutal winds that will really be making things feel bitterly cold out there for today. Coming back to the weather map now we can show you the snow will continue across the northeast especially into Maine today as we watch for that area of low pressure to eventually work its way further off to the east. And as it does, it's pulling in much colder air behind it. And not only that, very windy weather because high pressure up in Canada is so close to our low over New England, we're getting a strong pressure gradient as the winds from the high rush to the low and boy, does that mean some wicked winds. Wind gusts will be as high as 40 miles per hour even in New York City. A couple of inches of snow for you expected and north of the city, especially into the Catskills, we could see in high elevations up to a foot of snow. So that's a lot of snow to contend with unfortunately for that part of the country.
So Betty and Tony, another area we're watching here is the fire danger and that will be for parts of Texas, Oklahoma and New Mexico. Temperatures there will be warming up once again to about 70 degrees, 72 in Dallas actually. So another day we'll be watching for strong winds as well.
NGUYEN: Warm, dry, windy, not a good combination.
SCHNEIDER: No.
NGUYEN: Thank you, Bonnie.
HARRIS: It's good to have that forecast though for the weather in Indianapolis, because of the time honored tradition of tailgating, before you get into the dome.
NGUYEN: It's not a game without tailgating. HARRIS: All right, Bonnie. Thank you.
We're talking about the King holiday this morning and the e-mail question for you on the status of the civil rights movement. Has the message of hope, peace and advancement been diluted over the years? And I'm going to tell you, I thought we would have more e-mails than this.
NGUYEN: We haven't gotten as many as we thought we would, but hopefully we keep them coming because of this. Todd in Arlington says very little has changed in the last 40 years. It's 2006 and there are plenty of examples of racism, sexism, any kind of ism you can think of. It's just subtler now.
Now, here's our question for you. Don't be subtle about it. Send us your thoughts. Has the message of hope and peace and advancement been diluted over the years? E-mail us this morning, weekends@cnn.com.
HARRIS: And the next hour of CNN SUNDAY MORNING begins in a moment.
NGUYEN: We're looking at live pictures right now from his funeral.
Anti-American protests across Pakistan. Thousands of people are rallying against Friday's deadly U.S. air strike in a remote Pakistani village bordering Afghanistan. Eighteen people were killed. U.S. sources say it was carried out by the CIA.
And they say Osama bin Laden's right-hand man, Ayman al-Zawahiri was the target, but there are conflicting reports on whether he was even at the site. Washington is not commenting.
The chief judge in Saddam Hussein's trial has handed in his resignation as presiding judge. An Iraqi tribunal official did not say whether it's been accepted. Officials also don't say why the judge wants to step down, but some say he's upset over critics who accuse him of letting the proceedings spin out of control.
And a big accomplishment for NASA. Look at that tiny little speck right there. A space capsule, that is what it is, that little light right there, carrying tiny dust particles from a comet has landed in Utah. The Stardust mother ship released the capsule about three hours ago, and if you were able to snap some pictures of it, it came in awfully quickly, but if you were able to get a picture of it, e-mail us those pictures. Weekends@CNN.com, that's the address. We'll show them throughout the morning.
A Florida teenager is declared brain dead after a police shooting at his school. We have new details from his father, who believes his life could have been spared.
From the CNN Center this is CNN SUNDAY MORNING. It is January 15. Good morning, everybody. I'm Betty Nguyen
TONY HARRIS, CO-HOST: And I'm Tony Harris. Thank you for being with us.
Police believe 15-year-old Christopher Penley was on a suicide mission when he brought a pellet gun to him with Friday, threatening students and officials.
The school went into a lockdown, and SWAT was called. During the standoff, Penley was shot after pointing the pellet gun at an officer. Today Penley is clinically brain dead as a result of his injuries. He is being kept alive on life support at the request of his parents. They plan to have his organs donated.
The family attorney says Penley's father is extremely angry because his requests to speak to his son before he was shot were denied.
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MARK NATION, PENLEY FAMILY ATTORNEY: He does know that if Christopher was still alive and if he was allowed in that school, he would have been able to talk him out of it. Sean, his brother, also said, "Let me go talk to him. Let me talk to him, and he will put it down and he'll come out." And he was not allowed to do that either.
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HARRIS: One of the first students confronted by Penley on that fateful Friday morning spoke with CNN's Carol Lin.
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MAURICE COTEY, SEVENTH GRADER: I wish that he wouldn't have done what he did so, like, he wouldn't have been shot in the head, or anywhere. And that, like, he could have lived for -- he could have lived and changed whatever happened around and be, like, better friends with people.
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HARRIS: Well, here's the thing. During the standoff, an officer on the scene says Penley yelled out he wanted to kill himself or, quote, "die somehow."
NGUYEN: A service of honor, hope, and healing is held in West Virginia this afternoon. The memorial service is for the 12 miners who died in the Sago mine explosion two weeks ago. The memorial will be held in the chapel at West Virginia Wesleyan College in Buckhannon.
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REV. ANGELA GAY KINKEAD, WEST VIRGINIA WESLEYAN COLLEGE: The community is now defined as the world, I think, in many ways. The -- there are people coming from various parts of the country. We know people coming from Kansas, from Ohio, Indiana, Alabama to honor these miners and their families and this community and support us.
(END VIDEO CLIP) NGUYEN: Randy McCloy, the only survivor of that disaster, remains in critical condition this morning, but doctors say he is now breathing without the help of a ventilator. McCloy's family is expected to attend this afternoon's memorial. That service begins at 2 Eastern, and you can depend on CNN to bring it to you live.
Then you'll want to tune in tonight for a special "LARRY KING LIVE," "Honor, Hope and Healing," the memorial service and family members. It begins at 9 p.m. Eastern.
HARRIS: Attorney for two south Florida teens accused in this brutal beating of a homeless man are negotiating their surrender. The teens are said to have left the state. They face murder charges in the death of one homeless man and aggravated battery in the beatings of two others.
The wife of Indianapolis Colts player Nick Parker is in jail this morning on charges of cutting him with a knife. Did you hear this story? Harper's injuries aren't serious, but he's listed as questionable for today's AMC divisional playoff game against Pittsburgh. Thirty-one-year-old Danielle Harper is being held without bond on charges of battery with a deadly weapon and criminal recklessness.
A county in South Carolina will celebrate Martin Luther King day tomorrow for the first time ever. Greeneville County was the last of the state's 46 counties to officially mark the birth of the civil rights pioneer. The Reverend Jesse Jackson pushed for years to get the county to change its policies. He's a Greenville native. Last night King's daughter, Bernice, spoke at the kickoff event.
And we want to hear from you this morning. Has the message of hope, peace, and advancement been diluted over the years? E-mail us your thoughts. Our address: Weekends@CNN.com.
NGUYEN: People in Kuwait are morning the death of the country's leader Sheikh Jaber al-Ahmad al-Sabah. The 77-year-old emir was a key U.S. ally in the war against Iraq.
CNN's Elaine Quijano joins us now from the White House to talk about how the emir's death will affect U.S. relations with Kuwait.
Again, Elaine, this was a really strong ally for the U.S.
ELAINE QUIJANO, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Absolutely. And first off, we should tell you no official U.S. reaction just yet, but, of course, we do anticipate some kind of statement later today.
Kuwait, of course, is a small oil-rich nation in the Middle East, occupying a strategic position in the Persian Gulf region. As you mentioned, a key ally of the U.S.
In 2003, of course, Kuwait, under the emir, served as the staging point for American forces in the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq. The history of cooperation extends back to the 1991 Gulf War, back to the former Bush administration. The U.S. taking the lead role back in 1991, of course, in helping to liberate Kuwait.
So what will happen to that strong alliance between the two countries, that strong relationship? It is likely to continue under the emir's successor, his cousin. The al-Sabah family has ruled Kuwait for some time, and analysts say that they do not expect things to change -- Betty.
NGUYEN: Elaine, do you know any more about this successor? What can you tell us about him?
QUIJANO: He is a distant cousin, from what we know, and one open question is what will the Long-term plan of Kuwait be in terms of successor perhaps to this successor, because there are some problems, serious health problems that are facing this distant cousin. But for the immediate time, of course, their focus in Kuwait is on mourning the death of the emir -- Betty.
NGUYEN: No doubt. We've been showing live pictures of that funeral. Elaine Quijano at the White House. Thank you, Elaine.
HARRIS: Invited to visit a miracle tent to witness the blind see and the deaf hear. Yes, we'll talk to a photographer who was a skeptic, but actually became a believer, Betty.
NGUYEN: That's why it's called a miracle tent.
HARRIS: Good morning, Bonnie.
BONNIE SCHNEIDER, CNN METEOROLOGIST: Good morning. We are looking at blustery winds across much of the northeast this morning. In White Plains, north of New York City, we have winds already at 30 miles per hour.
And it is not a pretty day in Manchester, New Hampshire. I guess it's pretty if you're looking at it from inside, but lots of snow on the ground. More expected, with a wind chill factor of negative one degrees.
I'll have the complete forecast for the entire country. That's coming up next on CNN SUNDAY MORNING.
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HARRIS: On Monday a nation honors Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., but will disagreements within his own family threaten his legacy? Coming up at 9 Eastern, Dr. King's daughter and Bishop Eddie Long discuss the future of the civil rights movement right here on CNN Sunday morning.
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NGUYEN: OK. Want you to look hard, real hard. And you see some vehicles on the road. This is what it looked like in California's Blue Canyon yesterday when yet another snowstorm hit the Sierra Nevada mountains. All three major highways linking Sacramento to Reno, Nevada, had so much snow chains were required. Not much of a reprieve, either. More snow is headed that way on Tuesday. But I'll tell you, skiers are going to be excited about it.
HARRIS: All right. Let me see if can keep up with all this. We've got 30-odd -- we've got 189,000 days of rain in Seattle. We've got snow there...
NGUYEN: In the Sierras. We've got wind and warm temperatures for those grass fires.
HARRIS: And we have wacky music underneath, something from the '40s.
NGUYEN: Well. Bonnie.
HARRIS: And Bonnie Schneider in the weather center.
NGUYEN: That's right. To sort it all out for us.
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NGUYEN: All right, Bonnie.
Well, if you're just tuning in, here's a quick look at our top stories today.
Bad weather, as we've been talking about, has forced the U.N. to suspend earthquake relief flights in Pakistan. Of course, this is abroad. Heavy rain and snow have blanketed the Kashmir region. A U.N. spokesman says flights could resume today if there is a break in the weather. The October quake killed some 87,000 people and left about a half million people homeless.
Well, if you have the flu, your best bet to fight it might be Relenza and Tamiflu. The Centers for Disease Control says they may help, but officials say two other commonly prescribed anti-virals have proved to be ineffective in fighting a dominant flu strain.
And a NASA capsule has landed in Utah after a very long journey. The capsule is carrying comet dust. That's right, stardust. It was released by the Stardust mother ship. Did you see it? Were you able to snap some pictures of it? It came in awfully quickly. E-mail us those pictures, if you've them, to Weekends@CNN.com. We'll show them throughout the morning.
HARRIS: Drama behind the scenes of today's football playoffs, and off the field. This comes from Indianapolis, where Colts quarterback Nick Harper was taken to a hospital last night with knife wounds to his knee. It's questionable whether he'll join his team for a playoff game later today against Pittsburgh. His wife, Danielle Harper, is in jail this morning charged with cutting him with a knife.
CNN's sports business analyst, Rick Horrow, joins us on the phone this morning with more.
Rick, good to talk to you. What -- Harper, is he a star for this squad?
RICK HORROW, CNN SPORTS BUSINESS ANALYST: Well, he starts.
HARRIS: He starts? OK.
HORROW: And, of course, every -- every defensive unit needs their, you know, harmony of starters, and, of course, you remember the Indianapolis Colts have had a bye for the past two weeks. They've earned it. And they don't want disruption. Tony Dungy, the coach, runs a very tight ship with a very specific pregame routine.
And of course, they had some problems a couple of weeks ago, as you remember, because Tony Dungy's son committed suicide.
HARRIS: That's right.
HORROW: The whole team flew down for the service. So that it's been a turbulent January for the Colts, and this doesn't help.
HARRIS: I have to ask you, let me just -- a little bit more information here. There is the football story, and then there is the personal story with Harper. I'm looking at some more information on him.
And clearly, there are some problems in this relationship. He was arrested in June on a domestic battery charge in a case where police say he hit his wife. So that's -- that's the personal story, and that's something that, clearly, he needs to sort out with his wife.
But is this the kind of thing you think, from a football standpoint, that this team with Tony Dungy as the strong leader can overcome?
HORROW: Well, Tony Dungy is a great leader who's been through major personal tragedy over the last three weeks himself. But last- minute distractions don't help anything.
Remember, all-pro center Barret Robbins (ph) had a son diagnosed with bipolar. But the week before the Raiders played the Buccaneers in San Diego's Super Bowl three years ago, he was found in Tijuana, and, of course, the Raiders got waxed by Tampa Bay. Might have anyway.
And you remember a couple of years before that Atlanta Falcons quarterback (ph) Eugene Robinson had some -- had some issues with the law in Miami, and the Falcons got killed by Denver in that Super Bowl.
So there is -- there are examples of last-minute distractions that really do hurt a team. And, you know, as far as the NFL is concerned, as you know, Tony, there's $2 billion in ad revenue...
HARRIS: That's right.
HORROW: ... that's generated by the NFL every year. And we're not saying this is a major image hit, but with T.O. and some of the stuff that happened with the NFL this year, it really didn't help.
HARRIS: OK. Rick Horrow on the phone with us. Rick, thanks for your take on this. Appreciate it.
HORROW: Hey, man. Talk to you soon.
HARRIS: OK.
It started off as just another photography project, but it became an emotional and spiritual transformation, and coming up, pictures that speak about words in our "Faces of Faith."
NGUYEN: And tomorrow a nation honors Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.'s legend. Has the message of hope, peace, and advancement been diluted over the years? That's our question today. Tell us what you think. E-mail us, Weekends@CNN.com. CNN SUNDAY MORNING returns right after this.
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HARRIS: Well, it began with a newspaper ad that said "Come to the miracle tent. Come witness the blind see, the crippled walk, the deaf hear." Photographer Steven Katzman was curious, and wondered what kind of images his camera could capture. Instead, the event captured him.
In today's "Faces of Faith," an amazing story with amazing pictures found in the book "The Face of Forgiveness." Steven Katzman joins us now from New York.
Steven, good to talk to you.
STEVEN KATZMAN, PHOTOGRAPHER: It's nice to talk to you, too.
HARRIS: So it -- were you skeptical when you saw the ad? Did you wonder -- you know, because you remember the evangelist -- he may still have a show on the air -- Ernest Angley and all the miracles and on a weekly basis he was performing miracles on his television show. And it was, like, a miracle every 30 seconds on his show.
And I wonder did you buy the ad? Did you think that this was really true, or were you a bit skeptical?
KATZMAN: Well, when you're talking about Ernest, my -- my decision there was to either watch Ernest or Gordon Soli (ph) wrestling.
HARRIS: Right.
KATZMAN: So I was going back and forth between the channels here in Florida. But -- so when I saw the ad, I'm thinking, all right, this is going to be miracles with a wrestling crowd.
HARRIS: Right, right.
KATZMAN: So, obviously, I was really looking forward to that type of subject matter. And so consequently, when I -- when I arrived at the tent, not knowing what I was going to be confronted with -- I had a press badge, I had all my equipment, so, you know, the first thing -- I'm greeted, you know, "Bless you, brother," and the toothless wonder. So it was something that I was right on track as far as what I was anticipating.
HARRIS: Well, you know what, I -- you're Jewish, and, I mean, come on. What -- what really was the motivation behind this? I mean, you were trying to look beyond the veil or something? What was going on with you? Why did you want to do this?
KATZMAN: Well, most of my work is really based upon those individuals who are on the periphery of society, and so that is something that's always been an interest to me.
I was recently asked why did you get involved with photography, and I responded I read James G. Walker Evans' "Let Us Now Praise Famous Men." So it was from that ideology as far as being able to go in and photograph those less fortunate. And so this was something that I felt as a natural progression as far as where I was as a photographer.
HARRIS: Yes. Hey, you know, Steve, let's get to some of these photos before we run out of time here.
KATZMAN: Sure.
HARRIS: There is in first photo, and how would we describe this? There's a woman there clearly being moved and in tears.
KATZMAN: This is a woman who was at that first revival meeting that I photographed in Sarasota, and as soon as she entered into the tent, she started to cry. And again, this is my first shoot, so I'm rather apprehensive, and I don't want to invade her space, her privacy.
At the same time during this -- when this shot was taken, there's another woman...
HARRIS: The woman behind her.
KATZMAN: The woman -- not necessarily the one behind her, but just across the aisle sitting next to her is hysterical.
HARRIS: OK.
KATZMAN: And I'm thinking, you know, how rude is this for somebody to be violating this moment, this place where this woman has been? And I later found out, well, that's not just someone being rude, it's holy laughter, which is a new concept for me.
HARRIS: Holy laughter?
KATZMAN: Holy laughter. And consequently I had seen this other woman at other revivals, and it was the same M.O.
HARRIS: OK.
KATZMAN: She was constantly laughing. HARRIS: Another picture. Let's go to the next picture here, and this is a woman with a cane. What's going on here?
KATZMAN: Sometimes I would refer to these women as river junkies. Or I should say people as river junkies. They're not -- if they're getting what they want from one church, but go to another church. And I had photographed this woman at another church. She had not received the spirit. She came to this church, needless to say, she's doing a lot of carpet time.
HARRIS: One more picture. And then I've got one more question for you. This is picture number three, and what's going on here?
KATZMAN: This was shot in Brazil 2004, and this is the beginning of an exorcism.
HARRIS: And exorcism?
KATZMAN: Absolutely. And...
HARRIS: Cast out the evil spirit?
KATZMAN: In the name of Jesus. That's correct. Yes. And this is something that is extremely -- it's very powerful. It's frightening.
HARRIS: Yes.
KATZMAN: You can feel the evil, feel the tension, and I think it shows.
HARRIS: OK. And, quickly, what did this experience confirm for you about your faith?
KATZMAN: Prior to the beginning of "The Face of Forgiveness" I had no faith. And through this whole process I have faith. I have come to believe and pray to God. And this is something that has not only humbled me, but has given me not only an insight to myself, but an insight to other individuals.
And I believe that not only as a photographer being responsible for this type of work as a human being, I see my work as something that's much more involved with, again, helping those less fortunate than myself.
HARRIS: Do you believe in miracles?
KATZMAN: I believe in spiritual miracles and the spiritual miracle that happened to me I would say is a miracle.
HARRIS: OK. Let's put up the book again, the cover of the book, "The Face of Forgiveness." Steven Katzman, good to talk to you. And you've got an exhibit that is open now?
KATZMAN: It's open now. It's at Powerhouse Gallery in New York City at 68 Charlton. HARRIS: Steven, good to talk to you.
KATZMAN: Nice talking to you, too.
HARRIS: Thanks for talking to us.
KATZMAN: Appreciate it.
HARRIS: Streaking across the sky carrying secrets of the universe. Coming up at the top of the hour, a capsule returns to earth that could unlock some mysteries of the Solar System. We will have a live report.
NGUYEN: So fascinating. Yes. But first, a new year full of new resolutions. We all have them. Are you sticking to them? Senior medical correspondent Dr. Sanjay Gupta follows three pairs of people as they work together to improve their health, struggling to cut calories and pump up the exercise. That's next on "HOUSE CALL."
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