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Coast Guard Searching for Two Missing Cruise Passengers; Iran Nuclear Standoff; Pet Food Recall; Missing Cruise Passengers Rescued; Alberto Gonzales Under Fire; What is Executive Privilege?; Democratic Presidential Candidates Discuss Health Care in Vegas; Sexy Sermon
Aired March 25, 2007 - 07:00 ET
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BETTY NGUYEN, CNN ANCHOR: Well, hello, everybody. From the CNN Center here in Atlanta, it is Sunday, March 25th.
Good morning. Hopefully you're having a good one.
I'm Betty Nguyen.
T.J. HOLMES, CNN ANCHOR: And I'm T.J. Holmes.
Thank you for starting your Sunday morning right here with us.
We've got some big stories to tell you about, including this one we're just getting word of. An intense rescue effort happening right now for two cruise passengers who went overboard. The ship left a Texas port last night, headed for Cozumel. We will hear from a passenger on board.
NGUYEN: Well, they're not overboard, but they are waking up to water in Indiana. Homes, yards, roads all submerged. Sandbagging efforts under way, but for many people it is already too late.
HOLMES: Also, showdown with Iran. New sanctions approved by the U.N. Security Council, strong words as well from Tehran.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: God created sex -- that God is for sex.
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NGUYEN: OK. Sermons on sex of all things. The often taboo subject is packing the pews in one church. We're going to take you there on this CNN SUNDAY MORNING.
HOLMES: But we do want to start with that story that's just into CNN here. The Coast Guard searching for two people reported to have gone overboard from a cruise ship in the Gulf of Mexico. The Princess cruise line ship left Galveston, Texas, last night on its way to Cozumel when a siren went off on that ship. Missing now are male and female passengers, both in their 20s.
Now, I spoke a short time ago with a passenger who's on that ship, Kevin Shaw. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
KEVIN SHAW, PASSENGER: Well, about 1:00 in the morning Texas time a crewmember came on the public address system and asked for something like an emergency coordinator that somebody had gone overboard. And at that point, I immediately ran up on to deck seven, where the rescue boats are, had a look, and some crewmembers were getting ready to put a rescue boat into the water.
They ordered me off of that deck. I went up to the higher deck, deck 14, and looked over, and then heard other crewmembers saying that somebody had apparently indeed gone overboard.
We looked to one side of the ship and saw like a life preserver, I guess, with a bright white light blinking on it that I guess another crewmember had thrown aside when they were alerted that there could be somebody could overboard.
HOLMES: You never were able yourself, or from what you could tell from any other passengers you've talked to, were you able to actually lay eyes on anyone who was actually in the water?
SHAW: No, not at all. And it's just been the captain that's been briefing us on the public address system very well, informing us, indeed, that two people, he has confirmed, have gone overboard. They have friends that apparently saw them go overboard.
Apparently, T.J., there were four people, the captain has told people, that were outside on a balcony deck of the cabin, and two came in of those people in their 20s, and then they heard screams outside. They ran back outside on the patio cabin and noticed their two friends missing. So, immediately, the crew knew who indeed these people were missing.
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HOLMES: We want to continue now with -- on the phone with us now live is Lieutenant Kevin Kurczewski, who is with the U.S. Coast Guard.
Lieutenant, tell us what you can about the search and if that search has turned up anything or anyone just yet?
LT. KEVIN KURCZEWSKI, U.S. COAST GUARD: I can't speak as far as the progress right now. And I'm not in contact with the helicopter.
All I can say is that about 3:00 this morning, the helicopter was -- departed here from Millington Field (ph), and they are working in coordination with a Dolphin -- excuse me, a Falcon jet. And don't have much as far as the progress of that, but I probably will in another few hours.
HOLMES: Well, sir, tell me what do you know about the conditions out there right now in the Gulf, and I guess the chances someone who went overboard would have of, I guess, surviving for, I guess, several hours now, at least, if they've been in the water. KURCZEWSKI: As far as survival, there's almost -- there's too many factors, and each person is different. I mean, there's, first of all, the water temperature, which I believe was reported as 68 degrees. And there's also just personal exhaustion, whether or not they -- I assume they didn't have a flotation device or anything like that. But there's just a personal exhaustion of trying to stay afloat, and each person is different.
So it could be anywhere from -- in that water temperature, anywhere from three to 12 hours or more. So, I couldn't say for sure.
HOLMES: And sir, tell me as well about the difficulty. You said you sent a helicopter out, but -- or whoever -- or I guess another aircraft helping out as well. But how difficult it is to -- I guess in the vast Gulf and all those waters, trying to -- a needle in a haystack kind of a mission you're on. How difficult is it? And I understand of course it is now still dark there, and you won't have light for a couple more hours maybe.
KURCZEWSKI: Exactly. A needle in a haystack is a perfect way to put it.
It's hard enough in the daytime, especially if they are not wearing any bright clothes. So at night time it's even more difficult. So I'm not sure other -- you know, as far as how -- how likely it is, as far as percentages go, between night and day what that probability is for detection. So...
HOLMES: Sir, and just to wrap up here with you, what is the -- I guess the procedure, the standard for you all as far as how long you decide and the determination for how long you stay out there and continue to search until you, I guess, come to a conclusion that maybe no one could survive? I guess, what's kind of the standard procedure that you all follow on that?
KURCZEWSKI: I'm not sure as far as that goes. And I'm sure each case is different. But I -- and I can't say for sure as far as this particular case.
HOLMES: Well, again, Lieutenant Kevin Kurczewski.
Sir, I appreciate you taking the time out. I know it's been kind of a busy morning for the Coast Guard. And certainly good luck in this search, and I hope there is some good news.
Thank you so much, sir.
KURCZEWSKI: Thank you.
NGUYEN: In other news, stepping up the pressure on Iran over its nuclear program. The United Nations Security Council votes unanimously to slap new sanctions on Iran, but the country's foreign minister fires back, rejecting those sanctions. He accused other countries of a scheme against Iran.
We want to get some detail now from Senior U.N. Correspondent Richard Roth.
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RICHARD ROTH, CNN SR. U.N. CORRESPONDENT (voice over): He was like the last-minute understudy at a weekend Broadway matinee. Iran's foreign minister stepped in for his president, who Friday night canceled a trip to New York in a promised confrontation with his nemesis, the U.N. Security Council.
His audience didn't care who appeared. The council unanimously voting to hit Iran with another batch of sanctions -- asset freezes of senior Iranians and an export ban on small arms.
ALEJANDRO WOLFF, ACTING, U.S. AMB. TO U.N.: Sadly, Iran continues to defy the will of the international committee, the decisions of this council, and its obligations under international law.
ROTH: But Iran was not backing down. Echoing his president's views, the minister rejected the sanctions, calling them unlawful and unjustifiable.
MANOUCHEHR MOTTAKI, IRANIAN FOREIGN MINISTER (through translator): The world must know that even the harshest political and economic sanctions or other threats are far too weak to coerce the Iranian nation to retreat from their legal and legitimate demands.
ROTH: The Iranian ruled out suspension of its nuclear program.
Britain, now locked in a new crisis with Iran over sailors taken prisoner, made no mention of the incident, sticking to the theme of the day.
EMYR JONES PARRY, BRITISH AMB. TO U.N.: We want Iran to make the right choice, cooperation with the international community, which requires the removal of any doubt that Iran could develop nuclear weapons. The resolve of the council is clear.
ROTH: There was another direct offer by world powers to Iran -- suspend uranium enrichment and there would be a time out for sanctions. But again, Iran turned it down.
MOTTAKI (through translator): Suspension is neither an option nor a solution.
WOLFF: We were waiting to hear for one thing and one thing only. We hoped that the minister traveled all this way to tell the council that they were going to abide by their obligations and meet the council's objective so we can restart negotiations. We didn't hear that.
ROTH (on camera): It's almost become numbingly familiar. Sanctions are adopted, Iran has 60 days in which to comply, Iran says no. After these latest sanctions, Iran has 60 days in which to accept or face what the U.S. says are additional measures.
Richard Roth, CNN, United Nations.
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NGUYEN: Well, that massive pet food recall has some pet owners going green.
HOLMES: Green. We're talking about organic pet food here. Is that better for your dog or cat? We'll take a look at that.
Also taking a look at this.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I guess they're just bad at heart. They don't have any heart at all. They are cowards, I would say.
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HOLMES: Two older women bonded by a brutal attack. Now they're showing others you can survive frightening times.
NGUYEN: And it is the central argument in the biggest debate in Washington. It could become the subject of a court showdown. What is executive privilege?
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NGUYEN: You know the theme music. And "Rocky," well, he's got nothing on her.
It is a grand entrance for a grand lady, honored for her toughness.
Take a look at this -- 101-year-old Rose Morat received a plaque and lots of applause at a New York senior center on Friday, because you may remember a mugger beat and robbed her in an infamous attack caught on surveillance tape. This is it.
Well, that man is still at large. She says the attack won't -- ooh, as he punched her right there in the face. Again, Rose Morat says the attack won't change the way that she lives her life.
Good for her.
HOLMES: That's tough video to watch.
We want to get more on that massive pet food recall. Officials still trying to figure out exactly how rat poisoning got into all those packages of pet food. Well, so far, the tainted food has been linked to at least the deaths of 15 animals. Now the scare may be fueling kind of an attitude adjustment among a bunch of pet owners.
Our Jim Acosta has the story for us.
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JIM ACOSTA, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice over): You won't find people panicking over the pet food scare at the Barking Zoo in New York City.
JAY ENGLISH, PET FOOD STORE OWNER: I'm surprised that it took this scare to make the public aware of how poorly made a lot of these foods are.
ACOSTA: That's because nearly all of its products are organic or natural foods for dogs and cats. As store owner Jay English asked us, ever see a dog food label that looks like this?
ENGLISH: The first four ingredient here is turkey, chicken, and then turkey meal and chicken meal.
ACOSTA: Sales of organic and natural pet foods have soared to an estimated $400 million a year thanks to dog owners like Mike Bryan, who wouldn't have it any other way.
MIKE BRYAN, ORGANIC PET FOOD SHOPPER: If you're going to put something into your body, a dog feels the same as you do, thinks the same as you do. Why wouldn't you feed your dog the same thing you're going to feed yourselves?
ACOSTA: Now the industry is expected to get a boost after the scores of horror stories from pet owners this week.
Anita Bacchi (ph) says she lost her two dogs to the tainted food.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: They mean everything. They are our family.
ACOSTA (on camera): And it's not just pet owners who are outraged. Investors may soon be howling over how some well-known brand names are managing this public relations crisis.
MARC BABEJ, PARTNER, REASON INC.: Pet food is different from any other product in that -- in that if something goes wrong, it's not like I'm going to do you much good by refunding you the price of your cat or dog.
Who's a good girl?
ACOSTA (voice over): Dog owner and marketing strategist Mark Babej says the big pet food companies impacted by the scare have a short window of opportunity to repair the damage.
BABEJ: Where I would place the emphases would be to come out -- to be the first brand to come out with some kind of policy that is going to prevent such a thing from happening in the future.
ACOSTA: At least one of the companies says it's already looking at ways to improve quality controls.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No dog food scare here.
ACOSTA: Something organic pet food shoppers say they don't worry about.
Jim Acosta, CNN, New York.
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HOLMES: Also, CNN reported yesterday that a Bullmastiff died after eating Iams brand dog food. The dog, named Princess, in fact had died after eating Nutro brand dog food. Oops. Sorry about that. And we do regret that error on our part.
In a statement, though, the CEO of Nutro Products tells CNN he is sincerely sorry for the family's loss and that pet owners who are concerned that a Nutro product could have contributed to their pet's illness or death should contact the company at 1-800-833-5330. Again, 800-833-5330.
The company says it's preparing to implement additional guidelines to ensure quality control measures are strengthened.
NGUYEN: Well, T.J., coming up, no more price breaks for college kids paying more to prevent pregnancy.
Good morning, Veronica.
VERONICA DE LA CRUZ, CNN PIPELINE ANCHOR: Good morning to you, Betty.
Got this question for you out there this morning -- which videos are you watching at CNN.com? We'll take a look at some of the hottest ones making the list. That's coming up next here at the .com/DESK.
HOLMES: Well, we've got more information now on that -- that Princess cruise ship we were telling you about, two passengers that had gone overboard. We're starting to get word now that possibly those passengers have been found.
We talked a short time ago over the phone with Kevin Shaw, who's a passenger on that ship who has been keeping us informed. I understand we have Kevin Shaw back on the line.
And Kevin, I understand that they might -- they may have found these two after the search? What do you know there?
SHAW: Miracles happen. I heard the screams of a man and woman, the crew worked fabulously along with the passengers. And I'm so proud to report the man and the woman have been rescued.
The woman was pulled from the water and brought on to the ship about -- oh, I'd say about 40 minutes ago. And then just -- just now, within the past five, 10 minutes, the man was brought on board to the Grand Princess.
He was in a wheelchair. He wasn't wearing any clothes at the time that they fished him out. Just a miracle I cannot believe.
This all started about 1:00 a.m. Texas time -- T.J.
HOLMES: Well, again, we do have confirmation now from the Coast Guard as well, that, in fact, these two have been found. We don't know officially the condition of the two. However, just from what you were able to see, you said he came on, didn't have clothes on -- what kind of shape did he appear to be in?
SHAW: Well, first of all, the woman was brought on, as I say, out about 25 minutes to -- it would be 25 minutes to 6:00 Texas time. She was a little cold, bundled up, had her head down as they took her off the rescue craft on the -- on the seventh deck, I guess that would be, and brought her in to an elevator.
And while they were bringing that boat up, T.J., on the side of the cruise ship, the rescue craft, we actually saw the man in the water as well. And we were yelling at the rescue boats to get over there, along with the Coast Guard helicopter that was on scene. And right then they pulled him from the water as well.
As I say, he was naked at the time, but he was yelling and waving to us in the water. And when he did come off the rescue craft on the seventh floor, as I say, he was in a wheelchair. And he looked to be in better shape.
But as you know, I'm not a medical expert, neither are you. We just don't know the condition of these two at the moment. They are being looked at, no doubt, in the hospital here on the ship.
HOLMES: Well, what are you all being told is the plan now? Where will this ship go? It doesn't seem like it's appropriate that you would move on to your destination, but of course a lot of people on that ship like yourself paid money, expected a vacation.
What are you all being told yet what's going to happen with this cruise ship?
SHAW: Not told anything at this point. Way too early. This rescue has just happened. This is just in, as you say.
You know, we left Galveston around 5:00 Texas time yesterday. We were only, what, eight hours into the cruise, about 1:00 a.m. this morning, when these two people went overboard.
The search continued for four, five hours here. Amazing these two are alive and well.
And, you know, I really don't -- personally, just speaking for myself, I don't care about the cruise. I am so happy at what Princess cruise lines have done.
The passengers on this ship -- as I say, this is a miracle, and people coming together. I just cannot say enough about this cruise line and about the passengers on this ship this morning. I feel so proud. HOLMES: Well, that's good to hear from you. Good news here. And stick with me for just a second.
Want to get our viewers updated about what happened.
We got word just a couple of hours ago that, in fact, this Princess cruise ship that had left Galveston last evening, headed to Cozumel, that two passengers had gone overboard. Didn't know the condition of them, what was happening at the time to cause them to go overboard, but two passengers had gone overboard.
The Coast Guard got involved in that search, and for the past couple of hours have been searching. Those passengers appear to have been in the water for some -- just by an estimation, maybe four, five, six hours or so.
But the word is now that this Princess cruise ship headed to Cozumel with two passengers overboard had to be stopped. Coast Guard got involved in the search, and, in fact, now those two passengers, confirmed to us by the Coast Guard, have been found, have rescued, are alive, and now back on that Princess cruise ship that was heading to Cozumel.
Kevin Shaw, want to thank you again for your help this morning. You have been with us this morning helping us out, giving us an update about what's been happening on that ship.
Again, Kevin Shaw, a passenger on there.
But thank you for your help today.
We are going to take a quick break here at CNN, continue to follow this story, and we'll be right back with you.
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NGUYEN: Well, we do want to update you on the breaking news this morning.
Two missing cruise ship passengers have been found alive in the Gulf of Mexico. The Coast Guard confirms a male and female both in their 20s are now back on board the Princess cruise ship called the Grand Princess. They were pulled from the water just within the last hour and a half.
The ship was headed from Galveston to Texas and then -- I'm sorry, from Galveston, Texas, that is, to Cozumel, Mexico, when the two apparently fell overboard. There's no word on exactly why that happened, but the Coast Guard used a jet and a rescue helicopter to search for those passengers.
Again, they have been found alive and are back on board the ship. And we're going to bring you more information as it comes in to CNN.
HOLMES: Well, the calls for Attorney General Alberto Gonzales to step down just won't go away. But it appears Gonzales might not be going away either. President Bush still standing by his man. Democrat says there are too many inconsistencies about the attorney general's role in the firing of eight federal prosecutors.
More now from CNN's Elaine Quijano.
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ELAINE QUIJANO, CNN WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): President Bush says he regrets that the U.S. attorney story has become what he calls a public spectacle. But in his weekly radio address showed no signs of backing away from his embattled attorney general, Alberto Gonzales.
GEORGE W. BUSH, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: In recent months the Justice Department determined that new led leadership in several of these positions would better serve the country. I strongly support the attorney general in this decision.
QUIJANO: Yet Justice Department documents released late Friday are providing fresh ammunition for the attorney general's critics. They show about 10 days before the prosecutors were fired, Gonzales attended a meeting to discuss what a Justice Department spokeswoman says were the general outlines of a plan on how to carry out their dismissals.
But critics say that doesn't square with this statement by Gonzales nearly two weeks ago.
ALBERTO GONZALES, ATTORNEY GENERAL: I was not involved in any discussions about what was going on.
QUIJANO: Democratic Senator Chuck Schumer calls that an inconsistency.
SEN. CHUCK SCHUMER (D), NEW YORK: I'm renewing my call for Attorney General Gonzales to step down. More than any other cabinet official, the attorney general must tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but. And the more the facts come out, the more it seems that the attorney general was not coming clean.
QUIJANO (on camera): Justice Department officials contend the latest documents do not contradict what the attorney general said, but officials could not say for sure whether the final list of attorneys to be fired was even discussed. Lawmakers hope to fill in some of the gaps when the former chief of staff to the attorney general testifies on Capitol Hill on Thursday.
Elaine Quijano, CNN, the White House.
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NGUYEN: Well, it is at the center of a big debate in Washington, and could be the subject of a huge court showdown. But what is executive privilege? The Bush administration says it is the reason White House aides should not have to testify publicly in the dispute over fired prosecutors.
Joshua Levs is here with a CNN "Reality Check". And we're going to get down to the bottom of this executive privilege.
JOSHUA LEVS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Yes, exactly. That's what we do here, "Reality Check".
Thanks, Betty. Great stuff. I appreciate that.
And she's right. I mean, here is the deal.
This is so open to spin on all sides. And we have seen that happen throughout various presidents. The reason is this: there are no clear lines in the law delineating where executive privilege begins and where it ends.
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SEN. JEFF SESSIONS (R), ALABAMA: I think the president is -- feels strongly about executive privilege.
LEVS (voice over): It seems like everyone does, given the debate in Congress. But what is it? It's not written in the Constitution, and yet...
WILLIAM COHEN, FMR. DEFENSE SECRETARY: The court has argued in the past that executive privilege is a very important part of our Constitution, as such, and part of our governmental process.
LEVS: Here is the basic idea. You know the three branches of the federal government. When a president does not want to hand over records or testimony demanded by Congress or the courts, he calls it privileged by the executive branch. That concept is backed up by courts under the principle of separation of powers.
President Clinton cited it during the Whitewater investigation. His officials ultimately did testify.
President Nixon tried to cite it during Watergate, but the courts struck that down. And Democratic Senator Sam Ervin called it "executive poppycock".
Those cases involved criminal probes. The battle over fired U.S. attorneys does not.
Does executive privilege apply?
REP. RAHM EMANUEL (D), ILLINOIS: That privilege is usually received for national security issues. This is not national security. This is whether we respect the Constitution and leave politics out of the pursuit of justice.
LEVS: The White House says aides such as Karl Rove should not have to testify publicly on the record under oath, arguing that the president's communications with advisers are protected. But the White House also says President Bush did not have advanced conversations about the firings.
ED HENRY, CNN WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: Is this really privileged communication involving the president and his advisers if the president wasn't looped in you're saying on this decision? So it was other people...
TONY SNOW, WHITE HOUSE PRESS SECRETARY: Well, it's -- that also falls into the intriguing question category.
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LEVS: It's actually more than an intriguing question. It's also a legal and probably a constitutional one, too.
And right now it's the biggest sticking point, Betty, in this investigation into whether some U.S. attorneys around the country were fired for political reasons involving their loyalty to President Bush.
NGUYEN: And we're going to hear much more about this in the coming days.
Joshua, thank you for that.
LEVS: Thanks.
HOLMES: Health care was front and center for Democrats during a special gathering in Las Vegas. No gambling here, but the front- runners laid their cards on the table, nonetheless. An effort led by John Edwards.
CNN's Sumi Das takes a look.
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SUMI DAS, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice over): In the public eye, for the first time since announcing his wife's cancer was back, Senator John Edwards made his determination clear.
JOHN EDWARDS (D), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I'm definitely in the race for the duration.
DAS: At a forum in Las Vegas, Edwards and other Democratic presidential candidates explained how they would fix the health care system.
EDWARDS: The idea is, cover everybody, bring down health care costs for every single American -- which this plan, I believe, will do -- fill in the cracks in the system.
DAS: With grace and the occasional glance at his wife, John Edwards accepted words of support for his family but tried to steer the focus back to his health agenda. EDWARDS: It's not right that a woman has to go through or anybody has to go through this kind of struggle and have to worry about whether they can afford the medicine they need, whether they can get the health care that they need.
DAS: Despite his efforts, the topic of Elizabeth's battle resurfaced with sympathetic nods, even from the competition.
SEN. HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON (D), NEW YORK: We all want to make sure to send our thoughts and prayers to Elizabeth and John Edwards. And I'm very...
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CLINTON: I'm very impressed by Elizabeth's strength and optimism, and I'm looking forward to seeing both Elizabeth and John on the campaign trail.
DAS (on camera): A trail likely to crisscross the nation several times over. Mrs. Edwards has already predicted there will be days it could be draining.
(voice over): But at this forum, Elizabeth Edwards smile was bright as she greeted her husband with a kiss and waved to the crowds and cameras.
Sumi Das, CNN, Las Vegas.
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HOLMES: Meanwhile, on the Republican side, Senator John McCain spending the majority of his weekend talking to potential voters in New Hampshire. He held a town hall-style meeting in Plymouth last night, where he discussed everything from the war in Iraq, to the economy, to the lack of snow? Well, after more campaigning there this morning, McCain heads to Austin, Texas, for a fund-raiser there tonight.
NGUYEN: Yes, no snow there, I can tell you that.
Well, we do know that sex sells, but will it fill a church?
HOLMES: Yes. The sometimes touchy and controversial subject of sex is putting people in the pews at one congregation.
NGUYEN: OK, that made me jump, too. The U.N. security -- secretary-general, I should say, gets a dose of reality in Iraq, speaking of security. But he is not the only one flinching. CNN reporters do, too.
Famous flinches next on CNN SUNDAY MORNING.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: God created sex -- that God is for sex.
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HOLMES: All right. I know what you're thinking, Marvin Gaye, "Sexual Healing," sex in the "Faces of Faith," it doesn't seem right. We have not lost our minds here. Stay with us.
But yes, someone is actually packing the pews for sermons on sex. A Florida preacher's message carries an R rating, and CNN's Ted Rowlands had a front seat.
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TED ROWLANDS, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Sex gets people's attention...
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: MyCrappySexLife.com.
ROWLANDS: ... which this billboard in Florida certainly did.
MATT KELLER, PASTOR, NEXT LEVEL CHURCH: We were going for a shock-and-awe factor. And we certainly got that.
ROWLANDS: The shock was that billboard, which some people thought was vulgar, came from a church...
M. KELLER: Part three of this series we're calling "My Great Sex Life."
ROWLANDS: ... part of a marketing campaign promoting a series of sermons on sex.
M. KELLER: ... God created sex, that God is for sex.
ROWLANDS: Thirty-one-year-old pastor Matt Keller runs the nondenominational Next Level Church in Fort Myers. Before this service, a warning to parents was posted that the material may not be suitable for children.
M. KELLER: So, the question is not, am I going to have sexual desire in my life? The question, what am I going to do about it?
ROWLANDS: Keller's message, while delivered with a hip conversational, passionate style, is pretty much by the book. He preaches that sex is for single people to avoid and married men and women to enjoy.
His wife, Sarah, was at his side for this service about sex in marriage.
SARAH KELLER, NEXT LEVEL CHURCH: And I think that culture wants us to buy into that lie that sex is a duty, especially once you get into marriage. It's just kind of like, I guess he needs it, so here I am.
M. KELLER: God created sex. Why not at least tell people what he has to say about it?
ROWLANDS: Keller says, since starting the sex series, church membership has grown about 30 percent. And it's a growing trend, especially among evangelicals.
Kurt Fredrickson is the director of pastoral ministry at the Fuller Theological Seminary in California.
KURT FREDRICKSON, DIRECTOR OF PASTORAL MINISTRY, FULLER THEOLOGICAL SEMINARY: To hit those issues head on in a church context, I think, is really helpful.
ROWLANDS: Church members we talked to say they like the idea of bringing an issue like sex out in the open in church.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I think, in today's society, it's not talked about enough.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We will be looking forward to, you know, hearing some -- you know, some things and how to open up our communication and improve our -- our sex life.
ROWLANDS: But not everyone is thrilled. Because of complaints, Keller says the billboard company refused to allow the sex slogan for a second month. So, now it's just the church's name.
FREDRICKSON: My issue was that the billboard had this sense of luridness and deception. It was trying to draw people someplace. And, when they got drawn to a church, I think people would feel cheated or duped.
M. KELLER: We have heard a couple of people who have used the phrase bait and switch. I don't think we're doing that. It's not about us trying to grow our church. It's not about us trying to build this big thing. It's about us building people. We're in the people- building business.
ROWLANDS: Randy Newton (ph) says the billboard campaign caught his attention. And now he says he's hooked.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It's really in your face. And it's a for- real topic. You know, everybody -- everybody deals with it. And for it to actually happen in the church, and for the pastor to actually step up and say, hey, this is what we're going to say about it as a church, is a really bold statement.
M. KELLER: God has given us the ability to have a great sex life in our marriages.
ROWLANDS: Everyone agrees that sex sells, but Matt Keller thinks he can use it to fill people's hearts, while also filling his seats.
Ted Rowlands, CNN, Fort Myers, Florida.
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NGUYEN: He's awfully excited about that message.
HOLMES: Yes, he is.
NGUYEN: Well, as you know, T.J., you can become a reporter through our I-Report initiative. So, whenever you spot breaking news as it happens -- it doesn't have to be about that -- but you can always send it to us at I-Report.
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HOLMES: Well, a blast, a bobble even? U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon the latest caught on tape in an unflattering way.
NGUYEN: Yes, nothing dirty here. And as CNN's Jeanne Moos reports, no one is immune. Not even us.
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JEANNE MOOS, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): When things go boom and cameras happen to be rolling, you can get that videotape is going to get rolled over and over again. Everyone was comparing how the new U.N. secretary-general tended to ...
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Duck and cover
MOOS: While the hard-nosed Iraqi prime minister.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Nouri al-Maliki really never even moved.
MOOS (on camera): The blast in Baghdad got us thinking about that most human of reactions. The flinch.
(voice-over): We in the media do a lot of flinching.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Sorry, that scared me.
MOOS: With our clumsy mikes. With our falling lights.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: A challenge that he made to his Democratic opponent ...
MOOS: There's a lot to make us flinch.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: First day to allow citizens -- Excuse me, we're having some technical problems in the studio.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We have a fire in the studio.
MOOS: Sometimes we desert the ship, and sometimes we're the last ones to flee.
ANDERSON COOPER, CNN HOST: We're actually now just getting some fire, some rockets have been fired.
MOOS: Anderson Cooper doesn't flinch at mortal danger. Anderson flinches at frogs.
COOPER: That is just -- whoa!
MOOS: One of the most fearsome non-flinchers was the since executed president of Afghanistan, in the middle of an interview, his interpreter had an epileptic seizure. You will hear him scream and fall into his leader's lap.
Najibullah never bats an eye. The interpreter recovered.
JOHN ROBERTS, CNN HOST: In front of the Israeli Defense Force -- as I said ...
MOOS: Coolness under fire counts except if you're seriously worried about a chemical weapons attack by Saddam.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Looks like it might have been an explosion -- My apologies. He's putting on a gas mask.
MOOS: Who wouldn't flinch if you think you're under a poison gas attack?
We play childhood games that teach us not to flinch, and it becomes a test of manliness.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I'm not going to flinch.
MOOS: That's what they all say, until the jet swoops by a little too low. Sometimes it pays to duck as Ann Coulter found out facing a pie thrower. The secretary-general shouldn't feel bad about ducking. It could have been much worse.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Ahh! Jesus Christ.
MOOS: We in the media even practice self-inflicted flinching.
RANDI KAYE, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Oh, man!
MOOS: Jeanne Moos, CNN, New York.
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NGUYEN: I just knew they were going to show the Richard Sanchez taser tape. Maybe next time.
HOLMES: Oh.
NGUYEN: That was good stuff, though.
More on that developing story that you saw only on CNN about the two people who went overboard a cruise ship. We're going to have more on that, because they've been found alive.
HOLMES: Good news there.
Then coming up at 8:30, Dr. Sanjay Gupta isn't just our chef medical correspondent, he's also a practicing neurosurgeon.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I know every Monday I've got my time. I have my OR, and it's all ready for me to go.
DR. SANJAY GUPTA, CNN CHIEF MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT: I'm Dr. Sanjay Gupta. I'm an attending (ph) of neurosurgery at Grady Memorial Hospital.
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HOLMES: For three weeks CNN was given exclusive access to follow Dr. Gupta and four residents at the Atlanta hospital.
NGUYEN: Stick around for "HOUSE CALL". That is at 8:30.
Then at 9:00, what you should and should not say when writing e- mails at work. Listen up, because they could get you in trouble.
CNN SUNDAY MORNING continues.
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HOLMES: Well good morning, everybody. From the CNN Center in Atlanta, Georgia, it is March 25th. I'm T. J. Holmes.
NGUYEN: Good morning everybody, I'm Betty Nguyen. We want to thank you for starting your day with us.
A critical Coast Guard rescue just within the past hour and a half. Two overboard cruise ship passengers are found alive. It is a developing story that you have been watching only on CNN.
HOLMES: Also, waking up to flooding in central Indiana. Homes, yards, roads all submerged, including vehicles that you see there. Sandbagging efforts under way. But for some homeowners it is already too late.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We know what's going to happen to this guy. So we are pushing people out of the way, maybe being a little bit rude.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Guys, we are coming through.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: There was a blood clot on my brain and a guy was making a big deal about rushing. I would appreciate that.
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NGUYEN: All right so you have heard of "Grey's Anatomy." Today we are going to show you the real deal. We are on call with our Dr. Sanjay Gupta. His residents and interns on this CNN SUNDAY MORNING.
HOLMES: But first, lost and found. Two cruise ship passengers rescued in the Gulf of Mexico. Let's bring you up to date on this developing story; we have been keeping an eye this morning. The Coast Guard says the passengers a male and female in their 20s, fell overboard from the cruise ship Grand Princess. It was on it's way from Galveston, Texas to Cozumel, Mexico just within the hour, we got word that the two had indeed been found alive on and are back onboard that ship. Another passenger Kevan Shaw told us what he saw.
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KEVAN SHAW, PASSENGER (via telephone): Miracles happen. I heard the screams of a man and a woman. The crew worked fabulously along with the passengers. I'm so proud to report the man and the woman have been rescued. The woman was pulled from the water and brought on to the ship about 40 minutes ago. And then just now, within the past five, ten minutes, the man was brought onboard to the Grand Princess. He was in a wheelchair. He wasn't wearing any clothes at the time they fished him out. Just a miracle. Can I not believe this all started about 1:00 a.m. Texas time?
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HOLMES: No details just yet about the condition of those two passengers or exactly how or why they went overboard. We will bring you any new information as we get it.
NGUYEN: Well they are under water in central Indiana. More rain than the ground can handle. You can take a look at it there. Creeks already over flowing and there is the chance of more rain in the forecast today. Lindsey Clutter of CNN affiliate WTHR reports.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: How many do you think you need?
LINDSEY CLUTTER, WTHR: Nick Pointer is loading up acting fast.
NICK POINTER: I'm guessing 15 or 20. Maybe more.
CLUTTER: People like Nick are coming to the Hamilton County Emergency Management Office for reinforcements. But for many homeowners, it is already too late. In the Riverwood neighborhood many homes are already flooded. Other residents are just watching and waiting as the river continues to rise.
CARLA DOWDEN, NOBLESVILLE RESIDENT: It has been like this where it has been up a little ways. But this is the worst I have seen it so far. They say it will get worse.
CLUTTER: The White River is moving fast and predicted to crest above 19 feet Sunday evening. Already yards and roads are underwater. But that doesn't stop folks from getting around. No evacuations needed here. DAVID BICE, EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT: We offered once and the residents of the neighborhood said we are used to it. We know what to do. We are going to stick around here and tough it out.
CLUTTER: All over Hamilton County, crews are busy closing roads. Like State Road 19 between Logan and Field Drive in Noblesville.
MAYOR JOHN DITSLEAR, NOBLESVILLE, INDIANA: Here on 19, this is probably the highest I have seen it in a number of years.
CLUTTER: A total of 13 roads flooded. A non-related sewer collapse on Pleasant Street in Noblesville adds to the list. Drivers will need alternate routes to work Monday. If you see a high water warning, don't try to pass.
BICE: They may not look like anything is wrong with the road underneath but we do have a road in the northwest portion of the county that's washed out under all that water. So if somebody were to drive through the water, they would find out about halfway through that this is no road there anymore.
CLUTTER: Lindsay Clutter, Channel 13 Eye Witness News.
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HOLMES: That's a cool shirt there Bonnie Schneider. You see that? His shirt said "paddle faster." everybody is going to need those shirts. Do they need to paddle faster? Is the rain moving past them now?
BONNIE SCHNEIDER, CNN METEOROLOGIST: We still have flood warnings right now. We are watching more precipitation coming through to the north. It looks like Indiana will be seeing better conditions. You can see just light rain over the next 48 hours there's only about a 30 percent chance of rain in the forecast. But that does not mean the rivers aren't completely swollen and we still don't have flood warnings. We do including the rivers in Indianapolis where we are expecting in Noblesville the river to rise to its crest later on this afternoon. That's about the last one we are keeping our eye on. We still have flooding through out much of the area here.
Hamilton where you saw pictures of the flooding that has been happening since yesterday, just something to keep an eye on. Luckily right now the area is dry. We don't have any rain to report it is nice and clear across the region. We do have rain further to the north. This is an area we will watch very closely today. All the way up into Minnesota and Wisconsin. Believe it or not, it may seem like it is a cooler part of the country but that same area of disturbed weather that brought us the severe weather in Colorado and New Mexico over the past couple of days that has worked its way to the north. So now our focus is watching this for severe weather in terms of thunderstorms and possibly even tornadoes later this afternoon. It is going to be an active day. This region right through here, we have a moderate risk of severe weather. That means we could see intense storms and tornadoes later on.
T.J., Betty.
HOLMES: Bonnie before we let you go, we are talking about rain there in that area. We have been talking about this story, about the passengers that went overboard on that cruise ship in the Gulf of Mexico, from what we can pretty much tell they were out there several hours. Maybe up to four, five or six. What were conditions like? Do we know anything about the water temperature? Did it help or hurt them? How bad a shape would they be in?
SCHNEIDER: Well right now the Gulf of Mexico, the water temperature around that area is in the low 70s or upper 60s. It is not as cold as it would be lets say in December. We have actually been getting reports of the Gulf of Mexico warming up a little bit sooner than this time of year than it normally is. So temperatures have been fairly mild. Not as warm as what we would see starting in hurricane season. June 1st when the temperatures are above 80 degrees. Then it is really warm. The further south they were the warmer the temperatures would be.
HOLMES: Well certainly good to hear they made it out and appear to be OK. Bonnie Schneider, thank you so much. We will talk to you soon.
NGUYEN: I want to give you some news on major earthquake that struck Japan overnight. Take a look at the map, because that powerful quake rattled an area just north of central Japan, 200 miles northwest of Tokyo. At least one person was killed and more than 150 injured. Now, these are early pictures coming in from the quake area. You can see the damage. The quake toppled houses and cut power and even triggered landslides and a small tsunami. The deputy mayor of one of those towns hit by the quake says there was a violent shaking, strong aftershocks. Then continued to plague to quake zone areas this morning.
HOLMES: Stepping up the pressure on Iran over its nuclear program. The United Nations Security Council votes unanimously to slap new sanctions on Iran. But that country's foreign minister fires back. Rejecting those sanctions. The accused other countries of a scheme against Iran. Details now from senior U.N. correspondent Richard Roth.
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RICHARD ROTH, CNN SENIOR U.N. CORRESPONDENT (voice over): He was like the last minute understudy at a weekend Broadway matinee. Iran's foreign minister stepped in for the president, who Friday night canceled his trip to New York and a promised confrontation with his nemesis, the U.N. Security Council. His audience didn't care who appeared. The council unanimously voting to hit Iran with another batch of sanctions, asset freezes of senior Iranians and an export ban of small arms.
ALEJANDRO WOLFF, ACTING U.S. AMBASSADOR TO U.N: Sadly Iran continues to defy the will of the international community the decisions of this council and its obligations under international law.
ROTH: But Iran was not backing down. Echoing his president's views, the minister rejected the sanctions calling them unlawful and unjustifiable.
MANOUCHEHR MOTTAKI, IRANIAN FOREIGN MINISTER, (TRANSLATOR): The world must know that even the harshest political and economic sanctions or other threats are far too weak to coerce the Iranian nation to retreat from illegal and legitimate demands.
ROTH: The Iranian ruled out suspension of it's nuclear program. Britain, now locked in a new crises with Iran over sailors taken prisoner, made no mention of the incident, sticking to the theme of the day.
EMYR JONES PARRY, BRITISH AMBASSADOR TO U.N,: We want Iran to make the right choice. Cooperation with the international community, which requires the removal of any doubt that Iran, could develop nuclear weapons. The resolve of the council is clear.
ROTH: There was another direct offer by world powers to Iran. Suspend uranium enrichment and there would be a time-out for sanctions. But again, Iran turned it down.
MOTTAKI, (Translator): Suspension is neither an option nor a solution.
WOLFF: We were waiting to hear from one thing, we hope that the minister traveled all this way to tell the council that they were going to abide by their obligations and meet the council's objectives so we can restart negotiations. We didn't hear that.
ROTH: It has almost become numbingly familiar sanctions are adoptive. Iran has 60 days in which to comply, Iran says no. After these latest sanctions, Iran has 60 days in which to accept or face what the U.S. says are additional measures.
Richard Roth, CNN, United Nations.
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HOLMES: The U.N. sanctions will be a focus on today's "Late Edition" among Wolf Blitzer's guest the former U.S. ambassador to the U.N. John Bolton that is beginning at 11:00 Eastern.
Well behind the scenes of a medical trauma center is golden.
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DR. SANJAY GUPTA, CNN MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT: Trauma is not something you want to make up as you go along. He has the head position. Who shaves the head, Jeff makes the marks. Jessica is scrubbing his hands already while Lou is finishing up and then he scrubs his hands. It is an orchestrated dance.
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NGUYEN: Yes, it is. Our Dr. Sanjay Gupta takes us inside "Grady's Anatomy," that is straight ahead right here in the newsroom.
Good morning Veronica.
VERONICA DE LA CRUZ, CNN.COM: Good morning. I have this question for you. Have you ever hit the reply all button when sending e-mail and thought oops, that was not meant for everyone? We are asking you out there your e-mail horror stories next, from the dot.com desk.
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HOLMES: A smiling, bubbling Veronica De La Cruz is at the dot- com desk to tell us what she is working on. Good morning to you.
DE LA CRUZ: Good morning to you T.J. We have been asking people to share their e-mail horror stories. You know, I'm going to be getting to that one in a second. T.J. I'm sure you don't have any to share.
HOLMES: Not at all, not at all.
DE LA CRUZ: Neither do I. Have you seen the halo above my head? None.
HOLMES: Haven't seen it lately. I was told it was there.
DE LA CRUZ: Let's get you to our top stories at CNN.com. chocolate lovers rejoice. That's our top story this hour. Chocoholics were given another reason to celebrate after a clinical study showed that chocolate improves the function of blood vessels. But before you reach for the Bon Bons researchers say they will conduct larger studies that may confirm those results.
Our second most popular story this hour, ten people die overnight in a fire at a Moscow nightclub witnesses say the fire spread after a performer accidentally set his clothes on fire. The website for the club in downtown Moscow says it offers erotic entertainment, including striptease.
The third most popular story this morning, Leo and Kate reunite. They will make their first film since working together on the hit movie "Titanic." Their new film "Revolutionary Road" will be directed by Winslet's husband British film maker, Sam Mendes, who an Oscar for directing the 1999 drama "American Beauty."
Those were the top stories this morning at CNN.com. We have been asking you to share your e-mail horror stories. Have you been learning lessons when it comes to email? You can send us your thoughts and e- mail. Be careful what you say. Send it to WEEKENDS@CNN.com.
Betty and T.J.
HOLMES: We don't have -- well I don't. I can only speak for myself. No horror stories here. Miss Betty has several.
DE LA CRUZ: You do?
NGUYEN: A few. I'm not going to share those. Of course not and that's in the past. HOLMES: It is still in litigation.
NGUYEN: I have done my community service.
All right. Coming up, we are talking about sobering up among students.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: When I got off work, I would stop at the gas station and get a six-pack to get ready to go out for the evening.
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NGUYEN: A unique program at one university is paving the way when it comes to dealing with the growing number of alcohol and drug addicted co-eds. That's coming your way in 15 minutes.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I guess they are just bad at heart. They don't have any heart at all. They are cowards. I would say.
HOLMES: Cowards. Beat up on a 101-year-old woman. You remember this video. This lady was attacked by a mugger. Coming up, we will show you how her courage was honored in the big apple.
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CAROL COSTELLO, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice over): Most Americans spend close to 2,000 hours per year at their desks. That's 2,000 hours you can't use to stay fit. But Corey Ritter, founder of Body Design, says it does not have to be that way.
COREY RITTER, FOUNDER, BODY DESIGN: No matter what your current fitness level is there are things that you can do in the work place to help you feel and look your absolute best.
COSTELLO: First he says plan ahead and pack water.
RITTER: Before you come into the workplace, you want to pack a healthy lunch, two snacks, and bring them in with you.
COSTELLO: Are you having one of those mid afternoon energy slumps? It might be a good time to get in a few stretches. Corey recommends crossing your legs and just leaning over a good stretch for your back. Simple neck rolls can help stretch your neck muscles. A quick torso turn can loosen up the cramped muscles in your midsection. You will want a holding stretch for about 15 to 20 seconds but Corey says the most important thing is --
RITTER: Drink as much water as you possibly can.
COSTELLO: Carol Costello, CNN.
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NGUYEN: A trauma's center golden hour. Much more than a plot device on "Grady's Anatomy." It is the best chance doctors have to save lives when treating victims with terrible injuries. And that is something CNN chief medical correspondent Dr. Sanjay Gupta knows a lot about. When he is not here in the newsroom he is often in the operating room at Grady Memorial Hospital here in Atlanta as an attending physician training residents. This weekend he takes us behind the scenes of "Grady's Anatomy" here is a preview.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Code red.
GUPTA: He got hit by a car.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Within the hour he is going to die.
GUPTA: He has a big bleed on his brain.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We are in the red zone. There is a guy who needs to go to the OR now. He has an epidural, hematoma.
GUPTA: I saw that scan and my entire day just completely shifted.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Jess open up that other door.
GUPTA: I'm looking at the patient's head and I visualize that blood clot getting bigger.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What are you going to do, Jess?
JESS SCHUETTE, THIRD YEAR NEUROSURGERY RESIDENT AT GRADY: Epidural.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Did you talk to the mom?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes. I talked to the mom.
GUPTA: We know what's going to happen to this guy. So we are pushing people out of the way, maybe being a little bit rude.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Guys, we are coming through.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: A blood clot on my brain and a guy was making a big deal about rushing, I would appreciate that.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This is what they call the golden hour of trauma.
GUPTA: Trauma is not something you want to make up as you go along. Give Jess a marking pen. Jess has the marking position. Jeff shaves the head. Jess is scrubbing his hands while Lou is finishing up. Lou scrubs his hands. It is an orchestrated dance. Jess was here all day yesterday. We are going to basically let him do operating here. This is a case he typically he will do. He has a chief resident showing him things.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Let me show you a trick.
GUPTA: I will show him things as well. Get down low and scrape that.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Lou is very intense but he's also someone who openly praises you when you do good things. He is a natural leader.
GUPTA: We are closing. How he will do over the next few days, the pressure is off his brain. That's key.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It is traumatic brain injury and so we have given him the best shot that he has to recover.
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NGUYEN: That is the real deal. "Grady's Anatomy," a CNN's special investigation unit airs tonight at 8:00 Eastern on CNN.
HOLMES: We are going to move on and talk about going from song to silk. The one-time material girl material changes. Madonna's reinventing -- another reinvention by Madonna. That's coming up next.
NGUYEN: But first here is a preview of today's "House Call."
GUPTA: Thanks, Betty. I know have you seen those amazing before and after shots from weight loss operations. Now some insurance companies are saying it is just too risky, too expensive to do so many of them. They are cutting back. We are going to have that story.
Plus, staying sober on college campuses. The numbers are remarkable.
Also follow me inside my other job. It is at a level one-trauma center in Atlanta. You don't want to miss it. All that is on "House Call" at 8:30.
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NGUYEN: All right. Take a look at this. You probably remember this video. A mugger beating and robbing an elderly woman, well, that attack on Rose Morat was caught on this surveillance tape. It is just awful. And something positive, though, we want to report came out of this story.
HOLMES: You know the music; Rocky Balboa has nothing on this lady here. She was honored for her toughness. Again, that's 101-year- old Rose. That's that horrible video. She and the 87-year-old Saline (ph) were both honored at a New York Senior Center on Friday. Unfortunately, the attacker is still at large.
We have some of the questions still surrounding Anna Nicole Smith's death may actually get answers to those on Monday.
NGUYEN: Yes that's when authorities in Florida plan to release details of Smith's autopsy. The former model, actress and professional celebrity did die on February 8th, as you recall, in Hollywood Florida. We still don't know who is the real father of her baby daughter. DNA tests are still under way.
HOLMES: Madonna crossing another new line.
NGUYEN: From song stress to hem stress. Introducing her own line, CNN's Adrian Finighan in London on Madonna's new styles.
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ADRIAN FINIGHAN, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice over): She is the multi Grammy Award winning ever changing queen of pop, an icon of style, actress, mother, and global brand. Now the material girl has reinvented herself again this time as a fashion designer. M for Madonna a range of clothing designed by the style goes on sale worldwide this week in stores of the European fashion retailer H&M. In an age where the line between celebrity and business is blurred, teaming up with a global brand like H&M makes commercial sense.
JONATHAN GABAY, BRAND FORENSICS: Is it is not about reinvention. It is about being savvy and it is about knowing your market and also knowing that every market has what is called a product life cycle. It starts and it starts declining. Then you can extend it or even better, you can say what have I learned from that? And now I'm going to start again. That's what she has done. She's one of the greatest marketers I have ever come across.
FINIGHAN: Madonna says it is no secret that she loves the world of fashion. But will her range of clothes designed by horse riding 48- year-old mother of three inspire the world's trendy young things in fashion conscious?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I love her music. But I think the stuff she designed is nice as well.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I'm going to see what the pieces are like. I want to see the quality of them. I think I will pick up a few bits and pieces.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: To get a dress for my finance.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Have you seen it already?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes. But in black.
FINIGHAN: But these days as Curt Cobain has demonstrated you don't have to be alive to build a global brand. The late Nirvana singer was the highest earning celebrity brand last year.
GABAY: Being dead is a very good marketing ploy. It has few disadvantages here and there. But if you want to put those aside it is a very good marketing ploy, because what it does - it means that people are still buying into the brand ideal of a name, rather than the name itself.
FINIGHAN: So on that slightly distasteful basis, the queen of pop looks set to reign over the music and fashion worlds for many, many more years to come.
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FINIGHAN: Adrian Finighan, CNN, London.
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NGUYEN: Nothing wrong. She's doing it right, apparently.
HOLMES: Very, very well.
NGUYEN: Yeah, and making lots at it.
HOLMES: Well, two overboard cruise ship passengers found alive. A developing story you've been watching only on CNN this morning. We'll have the latest at the top of the hour.
NGUYEN: But first, Dr. Sanjay Gupta tackles this week's top medical stories. "HOUSE CALL" starts right now.
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