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Disaster at Kentucky Derby; Obama Wins Guam Caucus by 7 Votes
Aired May 04, 2008 - 07:00 ET
THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.
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LARRY JONES, TRAINER, "EIGHT BELLES": We put everything into them that we have, and they've given us everything they have. They put their lives on the damn line.
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BETTY NGUYEN, CO-HOST: Disaster at the Kentucky Derby as the filly Eight Belles suffered a devastating injury and has to be put down. This morning, we're going to hear from the horse's trainer.
T.J. HOLMES, CO-HOST: Also: Barack Obama wins, barely, in Guam. Now, the next challenge, and it's a much bigger one -- Indiana and North Carolina vote this week.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: And you could just hear it ripping the house away -- you could hear the roof going, you could hear things hitting the house.
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NGUYEN: But look at Greenberg, Kansas now. A year after a massive tornado almost wiped it off the map. The Kansas town is betting that its future is going green and it's doing more than just betting it, is making it green. We're going to take you there.
In the meantime though -- good morning, everybody. From the CNN Center in Atlanta, this is CNN SUNDAY MORNING. May 4th, can you believe it?
HOLMES: We are blowing through this year.
NGUYEN: Already. I'm Betty Nguyen.
HOLMES: Hey there, everybody. I'm T.J. Holmes. We're glad you could start your day with us. We will start by talking about seven votes. That's it. That was the margin of victory for Barack Obama in the Guam caucuses.
NGUYEN: Can you believe it? Just seven votes out of more than 4,500 cast. Now, this contest is just another example of the back- and-forth nature of this Democratic race. And you know -- Guam still goes in the win column, though, for Barack Obama. Yes, those seven votes put him in the win column, but with no gain in delegates. He and Hillary Clinton are splitting the four delegates.
HOLMES: And here is where they stand now in that delegate race. Obama leads with 1,736, and Clinton has just under 1,600. Those numbers will change on Tuesday. There are 187 pledged delegates at stake in the primaries in Indiana and North Carolina.
NGUYEN: Well, the candidates -- they are taking full advantage of their final weekend before those contests. And between them, they are making seven stops in Indiana today.
CNN deputy political director, Paul Steinhauser, is with the CNN Election Express in Indianapolis this morning.
Paul, OK, let's start with Guam. What can we take away from that close contest? Again, Obama only won by seven votes.
PAUL STEINHAUSER, CNN DEPUTY POLITICAL DIRECTOR: I think what we can take away, Betty, is what you and T.J. just said a moment ago. I mean, two delegates for each -- for Clinton, two for Obama, seven votes in between them. That just shows how close this race is right now between the two candidates for the Democratic nomination. It is as tight as it can get in Guam and you know what? It is pretty tight right here in Indiana as well, Betty.
NGUYEN: Well, you know, what's going to make the difference in Indiana and North Carolina because these are the races coming up on Tuesday as they go to the polls there and the primary? I mean, you say it's really, really close. How close are we talking and what's it's going to take to get one over the other?
STEINHAUSER: Yes. Right here -- let's start right here in Indiana. Our CNN Poll of Polls shows that it is dead even, 47-47 right now when we average the latest polls. That's about as close as you can get -- a tie. And in North Carolina, Obama now in our latest CNN Poll of Polls is up by about nine points, which is down from double digits. So, it's tightening up a little bit in North Carolina as well.
And you know what, Betty? I think what the candidates are doing is they're reaching out to middle class workers, working class families. They're both talking about gas prices, they're talking about jobs, they're talking about the economy, and they're going to be making -- crisscrossing this state today, starting right here in Indianapolis this morning and ending back here tonight for a big Democratic dinner.
NGUYEN: All right. It's the big day, as we got Tuesday coming up very quickly. We'll be watching, Paul. Thank you.
And we do have much more about this close race on LATE EDITION WITH WOLF BLITZER. He's going to be joined by Obama supporter, New Mexico Governor Bill Richardson; and Clinton supporter, North Carolina Governor Mike Easley. LATE EDITION comes your way 11:00 a.m. Eastern.
HOLMES: And later today: We take you beyond the 20-second sound byte to what the candidates are really saying out there on the campaign trail, to the full context from the campaign trail on CNN's BALLOT BOWL. That's today at 4:00 o'clock Eastern.
NGUYEN: Also make sure that you are with us on Tuesday night for complete coverage of the Indiana and North Carolina primaries. Join the best political team on television live from the CNN Election Center. That's Tuesday night starting at 7:00 Eastern only on CNN: Your home for politics.
And: We want to get you some of the latest of the other stories that we're following for you this morning.
HOLMES: Yes, of course. A Philadelphia police officer is gunned down by a suspect with an assault weapon. This morning, police are searching for that suspect, at least one on the loose. Police say that suspect and at least one other person robbed a bank and then took off. The officer, Steven Liczbinski chased the suspect until one of them fatally shot him. Police say another officer later killed one of the suspected bank robbers.
NGUYEN: A pregnant bank teller shot in the abdomen by a robber. Well, for the first time, we are hearing from Katherin Shuffield about what happened inside the Indiana bank almost two weeks ago. Shuffield was carrying twins, and she lost both babies.
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KATHERIN SHUFFIELD, BANK TELLER: That's when he jumped through my teller window, and as soon as he jumped, he shot me. And it was like in a slow motion, going through the floor, and I didn't realize that he shot me until I touched my leg, and I saw there was a lot of blood. Then I said, "Well, please help me, he shot me. He shot me and my babies."
And I didn't let anybody to do anything. He wanted to take the money.
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NGUYEN: This is just so painful. Shuffield remains hospitalized. She has an infection from the bullet.
HOLMES: Also: An explosion at a paper plant in Mississippi. One person killed, 17 others injured when a back-up boiler exploded. All of the injured were contract workers doing maintenance on that boiler. Federal officials are now looking into this accident.
NGUYEN: And overseas: Five regions of Myanmar are under a state of emergency after a powerful cyclone. Look at these pictures. Trees, power lines, all been down and hundreds of homes have been destroyed in Myanmar, which is formally known as Burma. The storm had winds up to 150 miles per hour, there's no word yet on casualties.
HOLMES: We will turn to our Reynolds Wolf and our severe weather center. Reynolds, we are just seeing some powerful storms all over the place, certainly here in the U.S. but like we just saw there, that cyclone, weather is some powerful and some scary stuff. REYNOLDS WOLF, CNN METEOROLOGIST: Yes, what they're dealing with over in Myanmar is the equivalent of a Category Four hurricane. So, certainly, it's just devastating conditions there.
Thankfully here at home, it's been such a stormy time for us, we're due a break. And today, we're going to get the break. We've got some scattered showers right now along the coast from Portland, Maine, southward into New York. And places like the outer banks in North Carolina, we're seeing a little bit of activity. But I'm telling you, over the next 20, 30 minutes, much of this is going to move out over the Atlantic and then high pressure is going to build in.
Now, when you have high pressure, it is sinking air. It stabilizes the atmosphere, so we're expecting fairly nice conditions in places like St. Louis, and back into Memphis, Tennessee, back in Little Rock, Arkansas, and points north where Sean Callebs have been reporting live in the last couple of days. They're going to be cleaning up a lot of that tornado damage with, thankfully, better conditions outside. So, that's certainly the good news. We are getting the welcomed break as I mentioned.
Now, in terms of temperatures, we're going to see things cool down a little bit across much of the Central Plains, and across much of the Midwest. Seventy-two degrees your high in Kansas City, 68 in Denver. Los Angeles, if you'll remember, just a few days ago, they have temperatures near 100. Well, today, 69 degrees the expected high up by the Staples Center. In San Francisco, up by Pier 39, 64 degrees; 70 in Salt Lake City; 67 in Minneapolis; and in Tampa, 87 degrees, just three degrees shy of 90. That's a look at your forecast. Let's send it right back to you at the news desk.
NGUYEN: What a relief for a lot of folks. I mean...
WOLF: Yes, time to breathe deeply and take it easy for a bit.
NGUYEN: Thank you, Reynolds. We like that forecast. Well, you know, I just have to say, we talked about it yesterday...
HOLMES: Yes, you knew better.
NGUYEN: Adriano.
HOLMES: You knew better.
NGUYEN: He let me down. My 30 to one underdog came in 19th at the Kentucky Derby. We should have known, right?
HOLMES: Out of how many horses -- 20.
NGUYEN: OK. All right. But as we said, that slot, the 15th slot there, never wins. And Adriano, I was really hoping you would, but it was the horse that started 20th that carried the day.
HOLMES: In a big way, Big Brown, big winner. So, we have the video of Big Brown coming down the stretch? There is Big Brown, pulling away to win the derby in commanding fashion. Tough starting spot, he did started in 20th, but that was no problem. So now, Big Brown wins the first leg of the Triple Crown. The second part, the Preakness Stakes is coming up in two weeks.
NGUYEN: Well, you know, there is triumph and then, tragedy at the Kentucky Derby. Eight Belles, the only filly in the field finished an impressive second, you can see her highlighted here, but at the end of the race, Eight Belles tumbled into the dirt and broke both front ankles.
HOLMES: Yes. More than 150,000 people were looking on. A lot of people on TV, however, did not see this because the cameras were not fixed on the horses right after the race. So, a lot of people on TV did not catch it. All the eyes were on the winner, but everybody there at the race saw it, the horse was put down, put to sleep right there on the track.
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LARRY JONES, TRAINER, "EIGHT BELLES": Now, come on, what do you think these things? They are our family. You know, we put everything into them that we have they've given us everything that they have, they put their lives on the damn line. And she was glad to do it.
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NGUYEN: Two broken ankles were just too much for Eight Belles. The accident brought back memories though of Barbaro. Remember Barbaro? The 2006 derby winner was badly injured at the Preakness Stakes, it was also put to sleep, not there on the track, but nonetheless both of them gone.
We're going to hear more from Eight Belles' trainer a little bit later this hour including the surprising way that he found out about what happened.
HOLMES: It's a horrible story.
NGUYEN: It's sad, isn't it?
HOLMES: The one day everybody is watching horse racing and this wonderful story about Big Brown, and then, we have this horrible tragedy. It just takes you down.
NGUYEN: It's shocking, too, that it's just right there on the track that the horse had to be put down. But if you've broken your two front ankles, I mean...
HOLMES: It's a part of that sport.
NGUYEN: How do you recover from that?
HOLMES: We'll have a lot more on that tragedy coming up a little later.
Also: We'd show you this devastation, if you will remember it, and it's still a devastation that's hard for a lot of people to imagine.
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PAMELA MUNTZ, TORNADO SURVIVOR: I really felt like we were going to die that night.
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NGUYEN: A year after a tornado nearly wiped Greensburg, Kansas off the map, they are rebuilding the town in a way that is setting the standard for the rest of the nation.
SEAN CALLEBS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: And I'm Sean Callebs in Damascus, Arkansas. This Baptist church has been a fixture and a landscape here for nearly a century. While the pastor here says the community is battered but not beaten. That's come up. And also this -
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It ends up being an inspiration for us. You know, we're the ones that walk away with a lesson learned and we're the one that take away a positive experience from it just as much as the kids.
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HOLMES: Songs for kids this morning. Musicians are rocking and rolling for sick children in hospitals and camps. Music therapy this morning.
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CAROL MATHENIA, ARKANSAS STORM VICTIM: We thought it was a one in a million thing. And 11 years later, it's happened again. It's just a traumatic thing, especially having to go through it twice.
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HOLMES: Arkansas plagued by severe weather this year. Survivors are going to church and cleaning up this morning after Friday's deadly storms. Witnesses reported at least two tornadoes in central Arkansas. Hundreds of homes were damaged or destroyed. Eleven counties now declared disaster areas.
And CNN's Sean Callebs joins us from what looks like - what you've been showing us, it certainly looks like a disaster area there in Damascus. You're at the South Side Baptist Church which is pretty much destroyed but we've seen stories like this before, church and church service is going to go on.
CALLEBS: Yes, indeed. Well, we talked to the pastor last night, Steve Stephens. He was actually here in this building behind me, the brand new sanctuary, when the tornadoes came rolling through this area. He actually came running over here first thing in the morning because he knew there were work crews inside there.
T.J., this is a brand new sanctuary that has not been used yet. It was still under construction. But, boy, they're going to have to start all over again. You could see that structured steel at the top, that webbing simply caving in after those tornadoes came through this area.
As we mentioned to you yesterday, what were talking to you, three people were killed in this area, but, boy, people say, it could have been so much worse.
The South Side Baptist church has been part of this community for 100 years. This was the old church -- it was built back in the '70s, but just look at the whole landscape of the area. You can see some of the roof, the aluminum there blown off the roof, wrapped around trees. The trees simply shredded. And lots and lots of lots of installation tangled up in the trees -- those lights there you see in the distance.
The National Guard has been back in this area. They have been out in the evening, just trying to keep people from coming in this area, going in buildings that are simply too dangerous to go inside.
Now, we're going to talk to the pastor, Steve Stephens coming up in the next hour. He is just extremely thankful that it wasn't worse here. They are going to have services, not obviously at this church, but they're going to be meeting at another Baptist church later on today, T.J.
And then, the clean-up begins. Insurance, of course, are going to have to come through and see what they can do. But, as I mentioned, the pastor here says this community is battered but not down. Second time in three months this area has been hit by tornadoes. Amazing.
HOLMES: It is unbelievable. Sean Callebs there for us and we look forward to hearing from the pastor a little later. Sean, thank you so much.
NGUYEN: Well, today does mark the one-year anniversary of a powerful tornado that just devastated the city of Greensburg, Kansas.
HOLMES: And President Bush visiting later today to help mark recovery efforts. He's delivering the commencement address at Greensburg High School.
NGUYEN: Yes, a year ago, the deadly twister though flattened nearly all of the homes and businesses in Greensburg, but today, the town is reinventing itself, rebuilding and going green.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: And you could just hear it ripping the house away -- you could hear the roof going, you could hear things hitting the house.
NGUYEN (voice-over): May 4th, 2007, an F5 tornado nearly wiped Greensburg, Kansas off the map.
PAMELA MUNTZ, TORNADO SURVIVOR: I really felt like we were going to die that night.
NGUYEN: In fact, 11 people did die. The rest were left with this -- painful reminders of what the town used to look like.
MUNTZ: Because she lost her job, the church was gone...
NGUYEN: Pamela Muntz has lived here 33 years in November. Six months after the tornado, she got a look at her future, a new house.
MUNTZ: When it got here today, it became reality. It became reality. It's really here. It's going on the foundation. It's reality.
NGUYEN (on camera): And it's emotional for you.
MUNTZ: It is emotional. It is. You don't realize how important your home is. To me, your home is your safe haven. And we've not had a safe haven for five months.
NGUYEN (voice-over): She now finds peace of mind in this customized modular home. It comes already built and is designed to be energy efficient.
MUNTZ: Altogether it's one piece now. It's not two pieces.
NGUYEN: That's the beauty of starting over. The tornado wiped the slate clean and now the town is rebuilding with a conscience. The goal is to go green, create a place that is so environmentally friendly, it sets the standard for communities across the nation.
Where was your basement?
STEVE HEWITT, GREENSBURG CITY ADMINISTRATOR: Right here. I can...
NGUYEN: Steve Hewitt who also lost his home in the tornado is the city administrator helping lead the way.
HEWITT: By building efficient homes, you are seeing less energy wasted. And by not wasting energy, then you have an opportunity to be friendlier to your environment, which is important because we're not building a town, we're not 10-year decisions, we're making 100-year decisions. We're building a town for our kids and not just for ourselves.
NGUYEN: Which is why students are taking part in the design. Just listen to some of the ideas on the table.
LEVI SMITH, GREENSBURG HIGH SCHOOL: Geothermal energy, we're talking about wind energy.
TAYLOR SCHMIDT, GREENSBURG HIGH SCHOOL: Use a lot of natural lighting. And we're going to have - we're trying to get Kansas -- Kansas has an opportunity -- is giving schools the opportunity to be wind-powered. If that came true it'd just be incredible that we had our own wind turbine, we're completely self-reliant energy-wise.
NGUYEN: It's almost ironic how the same element that destroyed the town is being used to rebuild it. But according to city planner, Stephen Hardy, it just makes sense.
STEPHEN HARDY, BNIM CITY PLANNER: They're really starting to understand that that means money. There is money blowing around in the air. That it's a resource that they can harness.
NGUYEN: While still in its early phases, the plan is already creating a buzz. It's attracted camera crews from the Discovery Channel. Producer Johnny Gould says Discovery plans a 13-part documentary called "Eco town."
JOHNNY GOULD, PRODUCER, PILGRIM FILMS: For a lot of this people, green was a color on the wall. And now, they're learning that building green can be a type of nail or specific type of siding, or a special window that you use that's more energy efficient.
NGUYEN: And that be can be more expensive. Part of the challenge is getting people to make the investment now so they'll save later. But when most of the town is still leaving out of FEMA trailers, there are those who just want their house built the fastest way possible, even if it's not green.
(on camera): How much of this town is going to be eco-friendly?
HEWITT: Well, our goal is to make everything eco-friendly. I think we got -- and is that a goal we can reach? I don't know. We're sure going to try.
MUNTZ: Do you see it moving?
NGUYEN (voice-over): And this grandmother of two is determined to do her part.
MUNTZ: And I see this house and I'm so excited, and I'm not even thinking about, you know, starting over. It is a new life. And it's going to be good.
NGUYEN: For both her family and a town that's raising the bar on what it means to rebuild responsibly.
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NGUYEN: And no doubt. The wonderful thing about it is they're using the power of Mother Nature, wind power to really make a difference in that town - a lot of them using wind power, solar power. It's really a green town and it's a town that Greensburg hopes will be an example for the rest of the nation.
HOLMES: You don't get a chance like that to start a whole town over.
NGUYEN: Clean slate.
HOLMES: A lot of people said that town was completely, literally wiped off the map.
NGUYEN: Right. And today, the president will be speaking at the high school there. Again, the high school was almost wiped off the map as well. So, they are coming back and they are coming back green.
HOLMES: All right. Well, coming up at 9:00 o'clock, at 9:00 o'clock hour, we're going to be talking to Greensburg's city administrator about the town's transformation.
NGUYEN: Let's see how far they've come.
Also: We're going to be talking about how it's eco-friendly building methods can actually be used, as I mentioned, as a model for the world.
Still ahead, though, police say he stole hundreds of gallons of gas.
HOLMES: However, now they say his run from the law has come to the end of the road.
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KARINA LISK, WITNESS: I saw them just pull their guns, and I said, "Oh, no, this is not good."
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HOLMES: Under arrest, and over a barrel. That story -- ahead.
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HOLMES: We talked about this yesterday. I mean, gas prices...
NGUYEN: We talk about it every day.
HOLMES: Well, right. I mean, gas prices are dropping so fast now we can barely keep up.
NGUYEN: Dropping?
HOLMES: Yes, according to AAA, they're down.
NGUYEN: How much are they dropping?
HOLMES: Didn't you see? Look.
NGUYEN: All right. I'll give it to you. The latest figure puts their price of a regular unleaded at more than $3.61 a gallon.
HOLMES: Give us the good news, Betty.
NGUYEN: That is down. As T.J. says, it's dropping so fast, down less than a penny.
HOLMES: Just stop reading right there. Don't give them the next page.
NGUYEN: No, no, no. But you have to put in perspective, because it is up 60 cents compared to a year ago.
HOLMES: Hey, I'm trying to be the optimist here. You want to throw (INAUDIBLE).
NGUYEN: Less than a penny? Yes, you stick with that kind of optimism.
HOLMES: All right. Well, when gas prices rise, sometimes so do the number of thefts.
NGUYEN: Yes. Unfortunately, case in point though, Seattle, Washington. Police say a thief used a master key to unlock pumps at three different gas stations.
HOLMES: Well, he then filled barrels with hundreds of gallons of stolen fuel.
NGUYEN: That is crazy.
HOLMES: Police say they have found that suspect after a routine traffic stop.
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KARINA LISK, WITNESS: I saw them just pull their guns, and I said, "Oh, no, this is not good."
MAITRI EDWARDS, WITNESS: When they first pulled the truck over, he tried to get out of the truck and run. And that's why so many of them got their guns out and stop him forcefully.
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HOLMES: All right. Police have said they're seeing an increase in people pumping gas and speeding off without paying. You can understand that.
NGUYEN: Yes, they're also getting more reports from car owners who have discovered that thieves siphon their tanks dry. Now, back to this guy though, they pulled him over for a routine stop. I wonder if the barrels were kind of an indication this might be your guy.
HOLMES: Something's up.
NGUYEN: It sounds like he's back in that truck.
HOLMES: Yes. Please, keep watching CNN and our MONEY Team. They've got you covered about gas, jobs, debt, housing, savings, whatever it may be. Issue # 1: The economy, all this week at noon Eastern.
NGUYEN: Well, music has healing powers.
We're going to take to you a music marathon to help sick kids. Artists sharing their talent and showing that they care.
HOLMES: Well, first this morning, our Josh Levs, has a look at -- what else -- politics. Good morning to you, Mr. Reality.
JOSH LEVS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: You got it. Good morning to you, guys.
OK. So, both campaigns in Democratic side have these fact checks going on. But you know what? You really need to fact check them. We'll explain that coming up. Plus: How both sides are spinning the Guam vote. It's right here on CNN SUNDAY MORNING.
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NGUYEN: All right. Look at the numbers. That's an example of your pain at the pump.
HOLMES: That's pretty good right there -- $3.29.
NGUYEN: That's way better than what we're getting here in Atlanta. Well, it is issue number one on the campaign trail this weekend -- the Democratic candidates speak out on gas prices. And we are going to hear from both of them straight ahead. Welcome back, everybody, on this Sunday morning. I'm Betty Nguyen.
HOLMES: And I'm T.J. Holmes. It was a tragic end to what should have been a really triumphant day at the Kentucky derby. "Big brown," the winner, of course, but that's not the big story really that came out.
NGUYEN: Well, that should be worth celebrating, "Eight Belles" may be the bigger story today. The filly finished second. And you can see her highlighted here. But after the finish the horse stumbled and dropped to the ground with two broken ankles, and then the unimaginable, "Eight Belles" had to be put to sleep right there on the track. Her trainer talked about putting her in the big race.
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LARRY JONES, TRAINER, "EIGHT BELLES": When we had left the barn, we said no matter where we finish, because we know we are taking on a big task this afternoon, but everybody remember now, if we come back run fourth, fifth, sixth, we had a great weekend after a proud spell yesterday as long as we come back to the barn good. And then when she ran second, we were ecstatic. I thought, well, here's another second. But then we're thinking, to win the oaks, and to run second in the derby with two fillies that we just had a remarkable weekend. And we were having trouble getting through the crowd to get to the track. And a lot of the horses were already unsaddled and going back when we finally got on to the track, and I saw Kent coming back. And he really -- you could tell that it's not like he had just won the Kentucky Derby. He was a little bit solemn. Then that's when we first heard that a horse had broke down. I just figured it was one of the ones that maybe had run poorly. Then I looked up, somebody says that's your jock on that horse. He was riding back with Donna Brothers. And still I didn't know what had happened.
And so when I got to him, I just asked him. I said what's up? And he told me, he said, Mr. Larry, they put her down. And I thought, man, how do you put a horse down like this? I mean, we're used to trying to save them. So that's when I took off running, and I called the ambulance, and rode, and needless to say, whenever I did see her, it was a - you know, it just had to be done. It just -- she had no way of being saved.
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NGUYEN: That is just so hard. We are going to hear much more from "Eight Belles" trainer a little bit later on this CNN SUNDAY MORNING.
HOLMES: We will turn over to politics now. A victory for Barack Obama in Guam, but by the slimmest of margins, seven votes separated Obama and Hillary Clinton. So, a win is a win; however nobody gained any lead in the delegates. The two candidates are splitting Guam's four delegates. Here's where they right stand now. Obama leads with 1,736 delegates. Clinton has just under 1,600 pledged delegates. Those number will change Tuesday. There are 187 pledged delegates at stake in the primaries in Indiana as well as North Carolina.
NGUYEN: Both democrats are campaigning in Indiana today trying to rally their supporters ahead of Tuesday's primary. Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama were responding to voters concerns about the economy and high gas prices, but they're still at odds over a federal gas tax holiday for the summer.
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SEN. HILLARY CLINTON (D), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I see that sign over there, guy's got a sign saying a gas tax holiday is blatant pandering. Well I tell you what, I would rather the oil companies pay the gas taxes than you pay the gas taxes this summer.
SEN. BARACK OBAMA (D), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: She can't even get some of her own supporters to speak about this. There is no economist or expert out there saying this is a good idea. So, the other day she had, as a surrogate, one of her supporters who is, guess what? A lobbyist for Shell Oil saying what a good idea this was. Well, that's just a Shell game.
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NGUYEN: Well, Obama says a gas tax holiday would be a short-term fix. Clinton is calling for Congress to vote on the issue. HOLMES: All the back and forth during this long election process makes it hard to separate fact from political spin or fiction even.
NGUYEN: That's when we bring in Josh Levs. He's here with a reality check of the candidate's own fact check. So, you've got a check their facts.
JOSH LEVS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Yes. I got to have to check their fact check. Is that cyclical enough?
NGUYEN: Yes.
LEVS: All right.
NGUYEN: All right.
LEVS: Check this out. Right behind me, we got cnnpolitics.com. We're going to come back to that. I want to start off here showing you how everybody is seeing what happened in Guam. We're going to start off with these. Now, I showed you yesterday, when you take a look at Barack Obama's website, he always leads with the number of contests he won. It used to say as of yesterday, I said 30 of 45 now. At the very top, it says 31. He is leading right here with this announcement that he has won Guam. In fact, citing CNN making the announcement that he won Guam. He does say it was by just seven votes
Now, Hillary Clinton has a special announcement here on her website in which she is presenting her own argument. She congratulates him. She thanks the people of Guam and she says this while our campaign was dramatically outspent, we had an impressive grassroots-oriented effort. So, she's saying look we were outspent there and still look, it was a virtual tie, only seven behind.
Now, let's get to those fact checks. Because we got an example today that's a really good way to show you how important it is to fact check the fact checks. This is Barack Obama's fact check web site. He uses this to respond to articles, to attacks from Clinton. And right now he is leading, he has been leading ever since April 28th.
So, last week with his position on foreclosure. She attacked him on foreclosure. So, he says look, the "New York Times" said "Obama has endorsed the best idea currently on the table to prevent foreclosure." Top thing on his fact check website. He offers a link to the article. I want you to keep that in mind. Obama has endorsed the best ideas. OK. I'm going to take you over to the actual article on the "New York Times" and see what it says here "both Mrs. Clinton and Mr. Obama have endorsed the best idea currently on the table to prevent foreclosure."
So, how did that happen? Well, he is going by the original version. When they posted that editorial in March, it did say that he had the best idea. The next day, they updated it. A month later he still has the link to there. If you actually go to that link it says they both have endorsed the same great idea. Now, if you ever want to get the straight instead of the spin, just go to cnnpolitics.com. Of course, we got all the latest for you there. We link to fact checks and reality checks and what the candidates are actually saying.
So, Betty, T.J., there you go perfect example of why sometimes you can't take it at face value, you got to fact check those fact checks.
NGUYEN: And that's why cnn.com politics is your one-stop shop, right?
LEVS: You got it. One-stop shop for all the latest political news, cnnpolitics.com.
NGUYEN: All things political. Yes, exactly. Thank you.
LEVS: Thanks.
HOLMES: A little later today, we will be taking you beyond the 22nd sound bites. You can hear what the candidates are really saying out there and then go fact check it for yourself. Get a full fact check on the campaign trail with CNN's "Ballot Bowl." That's today at 4:00 Eastern time.
NGUYEN: And make sure that you are with us Tuesday night for some complete coverage of the Indiana and North Carolina primaries. You can join the best political team on television live from the CNN "Election Center," Tuesday night starting at 7:00 Eastern only on CNN, your home for politics.
HOLMES: Well, where is John McCain these days? The republican nominee to be is taking a break from campaigning today. But he's back in action this week with appearances tomorrow and Tuesday in North Carolina. Former candidate Fred Thompson joins him on the campaign trail as McCain tries to shore up his support among conservatives. McCain plans to focus on judicial issues this week after promoting his health care plan last week.
NGUYEN: Well, you know, after dropping less than a penny overnight, gas prices are still high, you can't argue that. Job prospects are down. So, why are some people partying? Look at that. Because they have Berkshire Hathaway stock, and they got a first person briefing on the economy from company chairman Warren Buffett. If only we could all invest like Warren Buffett. We'll show you what he had to say.
HOLMES: And maybe what he to sing there.
Also, wounded warriors, their road to recovery takes them to another world, healing body and mind alongside some gentle giants. That story ahead.
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HOLMES: When Warren Buffett speaks, people who want to make some money listen. The CEO of Berkshire Hathaway met with shareholders yesterday. He told them not to expect the same rate of growth they've seen over the years. Don't let that picture fool you. That man knows what he's talking about. The company's value per share has grown from $19.43 a year ago to more than $78,000.
NGUYEN: Wow.
HOLMES: Buffett says his strategy is the same, buy great companies with solid management and a good price. CNN's Susan Lisovicz had a chance to talk to Buffett. We'll bring you her report next hour.
NGUYEN: In the meantime, there is no merger for Microsoft and Yahoo!. The world's largest software company drops its bid for yahoo!. Microsoft was offering at least $46 billion bucks but Yahoo! said I want 53. The Microsoft-Yahoo! merger would have meant big competition for google which leads in internet advertising.
HOLMES: Well, buying, selling, refinancing a home can be a scary proposition in this really unstable housing market.
NGUYEN: Ali Velshi has got some mortgage advice though that is right "On your Money."
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ALI VELSHI, CNN, SENIOR BUSINESS CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Adjustable rate mortgage. Those can be scary words in this housing market. Many homeowners stuck in subprime arms that are resetting are being forced into foreclosure. But if you are in the market for a mortgage home, there's a chance that an adjustable rate mortgage might be right choice for you.
GREG MCBRIDE, SR. FINANCIAL ANALYST, BANKRATE.COM: There are a couple of prerequisites. You're not going to be in the home for very long, it can make sense. If you can expect a big increase in income. That's not very common but you know, if you are in that situation, it could work for you.
VELSHI: With a fixed rate mortgage, monthly payment will be steady but with an adjustable rate mortgage, your payment will vary over time.
MCBRIDE: This is not a decision you're making based on the outlook per interest rates. If you are a good candidate for an adjustable rate mortgage, by and large, it's because your timetable is short enough that that loan would function as a fixed rate loan. Right now, the value is in fixed rate loan. Those rates are still very low. If you saw a bigger disparity between adjustable and fixed rates, for somebody who plans to be in the home less than ten years that could be enough to tip the scales in favor of that adjustable rate loan.
VELSHI: And that's this week's right "On your money."
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NGUYEN: We'll keep watching. Our money team has you covered, whether it's jobs, debt, housing or savings. "Issue number 1 is the economy " and it's all this week at noon Eastern. HOLMES: They bear the scars of war and the challenges of rebuilding their lives.
NGUYEN: So how did that journey land them here -- with the gentle giants of whale sharks?
HOLMES: That answer and that inspiration minutes away.
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NGUYEN: Here are some of the other stories that we are following for you this morning. Off the menu. Yes. More than a quarter million pounds of beef and chicken recalled because it might be contaminated with Listeria bacteria. The meat products are sold under the name "Gourmet Boutique." The company is also recalling some pre- made chicken salad and some wraps and burritos sold by "Jans" and "Archer Farms."
HOLMES: More Middle East meetings today for Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice. She is planning to have peace plan talks with the Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas today. That meeting comes a day after she met with Israel's Prime Minister. Rice says she believes a peace deal can be struck by the end of the year.
NGUYEN: Well, the Olympic torch relay finally made it to mainland China. The run started in a tropical island of Hainan today. The first stop in what is expected to be a peaceful three-month journey to Beijing. The torch will run through every Chinese province and region. Olympic officials say the protest that we've seen around the world are over.
HOLMES: And our "Faces of Faith" this morning, an exercise designed to heal both the body and the spirit. A special invitation for U.S. troops recovering from serious injuries. The therapist -- whale sharks, the gentle giants at the Georgia Aquarium.
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SPEC. JACOB DUTRO, SOLDIER IN VA. ACTIVE DUTY REHAB: It was just something different, you know, it takes your mind off of whatever you got going on. Your injuries, or whatever, you get out here, do something different. Just get out of the repetitive nature of therapy, you know, seeing doctors. It's great.
CHAPLAIN MARK MUNSON, EISENHOWER ARMY & MEDICAL CENTER: This is a program called the breath of life. It's a spiritual, adventure intensive. And the purpose of it is to bring soldiers - soldiers coming back from Iraq, Afghanistan, from the (theater)ph operations to help them with reintegration, separation, grief, loss, reacquaint them with skills that will give them the ability to communicate again with family members and people that they care for. In the process, we reintroduce them again to what it means to have a relationship with god.
JEFF SNOVER, CHAIRMAN, CHAMPIONS MADE FROM ADVERSITY: They made me feel like a complete person, that I can do things that other folks can do just as well. I mean, there were no disabilities out there, none whatsoever. I got around just as well as anybody else.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We hope that by bringing them to an event like this that it challenges them to go beyond what they normally would do. That they realize there's hope in the future, that there's people that care for them. And then bringing them out into this type of environment, they tend to loosen up and talk about things they normally would not have talked about.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: First of all, it lets us know the community is there for us. And that we can get back into the community. We don't have to be pigeon holed and to, you know, we don't have to be hidden.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It's great. It's great. I couldn't have imagined anybody not wanting to come. It's exciting.
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NGUYEN: What a great story of healing and just that liberation of being in the water, just feeling whole again.
HOLMES: A lot different from sitting up in some hospital or some office or some therapy center. So, very nice to see there.
NGUYEN: Love it. All right.
We're going to talk about some - I guess you could call it good news, especially after what we have seen the past few weeks. Reynolds Wolf joins us now with a look at weather. Hey, Reynolds, things are shaping up pretty nicely.
REYNOLDS WOLF, CNN METEOROLOGIST: Yes, pretty nicely. You know, I think we're due for a quiet day around the nation. That's pretty much been the situation. You know, the last couple of days, it's been nuts. We got all kinds of rough weather, especially in parts of southeast but today it's going to be a much better day for us. Still some scattered showers along much of the Eastern seaboard, in spots like Portland, Maine, New York, you've had some rain drops this morning. But into the afternoon it will get better.
We've seen some heavier thunderstorms right off the outer banks of North Carolina. Places like Wilmington this morning. We had a few raindrops, but if you step out to the beach and look off the coast, you're going to be seeing these clouds move off. But high pressure can be forming a little bit farther back out to the west and then high pressure is going to be creating some mild air into much of the Ohio Valley, including places like Indianapolis, where we have a live image this morning near the CNN "Election Express." There it is. Great shot there. Looks fantastic. The sun is shining. Very dry day there today. So, any outdoor plans you have, go out there and have it. Go for a picnic. This should be a banner day for you.
Meanwhile, if you are look at extreme south Texas, we may see few showers out towards the west and parts of the San Joaquin Valley. Raindrops are possible in places like Sacramento but if you are making a drive to the Bay area, in San Francisco, you are high about 64 degrees. 70 in Salt Lake City. 65 in Chicago And 71 in Nashville. That's your forecast. Back to you.
NGUYEN: All right. Thank you, Reynolds.
WOLF: See you back, guys.
HOLMES: Well, an arms race to tell you about now on the city streets of America. That story minutes away. Coming up our next hour.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: They don't have little 38s anymore they have AK-47s.
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NGUYEN: Police try to keep up with the fire power on the mean streets.
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HOLMES: All right. Kids, it's horrible when they're sick. The last place they want to be is in a hospital, they don't want to be messing with a doctor and all these medicines and shots. Well, how about helping them heal with a little music. Maybe that will help.
NGUYEN: The healing power of music. Absolutely. Here is our Fredricka Whitfield with that story.
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FREDRICKA WHITFIELD, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): It's not that often that a hospital lobby echoes to live music.
But children being treated at this Atlanta Hospital are getting a welcome break from their treatment. Interacting with local artists.
Josh Rifkind started "Songs for Kids," a program where musicians visit and interact with ailing children in hospitals and camps.
JOSH RIFKIND, SONGS FOR KIDS FOUNDATION: The kids sing songs. They write their own songs, their own lyrics, and these engineers and producers actually write these songs right there at bedside. Nurses coming in and out. The kids are singing on the microphone, head phones, everything. Just like doing a real recording studio.
WHITFIELD: Hospital staff and volunteers also get a kick out of the project.
CHELSEA BLEVINS, CHILDREN'S HEALTCARE OF ATLANTA: Songs for kids is amazing, not just for that patients but also for our families and actually our staff as well. Patients that have been stuck in their rooms all day long will come down into the lobby and get to listen to these songs and just get their mind off the fact that they have been in the hospital all day, or week or month with a smile on everyone's face. WHITFIELD: To raise awareness and funds for the foundation, Rifkind gathered 500 artists to perform 500 greatest hit songs. The songs will be performed in a 10-night music marathon at an Atlanta bar.
RIFKIND: I figure putting on this massive concert would be a great way then to bring people together and do something even bigger, which is brings all those musicians now out to all the hospitals and special needs kids camp.
WHITFIELD: The musicians involved feel they, too, are getting a benefit.
JANELLE MONAE, RECORDING ARTIST: This aligns with what it is I feel like I should be doing as an artist, which is making sure that I'm inspiring as many, you know, young people as possible.
RIFKIND: I can use the things I'm interested in. I can use my energy and my passion and do my own thing and try to give back in a way that is exciting for me.
I'm going to introduce all 500 bands.
WHITFIELD: All the money raised from ticket sales at the music marathon will go towards more events and hospitals. Call it music therapy. Fredricka Whitfield, CNN, Atlanta.
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NGUYEN: Look at smile on her face. Great what music can do.
HOLMES: Again, kids, the last thing they want is to be sick.
NGUYEN: Absolutely.
HOLMES: They hate it. They don't want to be in a hospital. It's scary even a grown man like myself.
NGUYEN: Like yourself. A sure way though to cheer you up if you're in that condition. And speaking of the 500 songs for kids benefit that will continue until May 10th. For more information on how to donate as well. Here's what you do, you go to www.songsforkidsfoundation.org.
NGUYEN: Good morning, everybody, from the CNN Center right here in Atlanta, Georgia, it is Sunday, May 4th. I'm Betty Nguyen.
HOLMES: And hello, I'm T.J. Holmes. Glad you could be here with us on this Sunday morning.
NGUYEN: Let's start with this, a Philadelphia police officer is gunned down with an assault weapon. This morning police are searching for at least one suspect, and police say that suspect and another person robbed a bank and then took off.
HOLMES: The officer in question here is Steven Liczbinski. He chased the suspect until one of them fatally shot him. Police say another officer later killed one of the suspected bank robbers. Today, the mayor of Philadelphia is asking residents to rally around the family of that officer.
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MAYOR MICHAEL NUTTER, PHILADEPHIA: Keep them in our prayers. They will need ongoing help and support as we grapple with what has happened here today. And I just want to express my own personal sympathies this family. And certainly thank the officer for his long, hard work for the Philadelphia Police Department. He has obviously made the ultimate sacrifice.
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NGUYEN: Killed by an assault weapon. And those weapons they have been in the hands of bad guys for a very long time. We have been documenting this but now, more police departments are arming their own officers with that same fire power. CNN's Susan Candiotti reports.
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SUSAN CANDIOTTI, CNN CORRESPONDENT: This isn't S.W.A.T. training.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It's on you. The line is hot.
CANDIOTTI: Regular cops on the beat are fast becoming sharp shooters.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Did I hit? Did it work? Are there any other threats?
CANDIOTTI: The Palm Beach County, Florida Sheriff's offices are among law enforcement agencies nationwide adding assault weapons to their arsenal because so are the bad guys.
SGT. LAURIE PFEIL, PALM BEACH CO. SHERIFF'S DEPT: They don't have little 38s anymore, they have AK-47.
CANDIOTTI: Training in an AR-15, a civilian version of the M-16 the military uses in Iraq, Sergeant Laurie Pfeil is taking aim at self preserve ration.
PFEIL: They don't get out and run from us anymore. They stop and they're shooting at us and this is what they have. They have automatic weapons now.
CANDIOTTI (on camera): Why is this weapon is so powerful?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And so effective. It's basically, it's the round.
CANDIOTTI: The bullet is said to cut through steel at 100 yards. But because each weapon costs around $900, some departments can't afford to armor train everyone at once. So, they allow certified officers to buy and carry their own assault-style weapons.
(on camera): Well, this is where you keep it.
DEP. CARL MARTIN, PALM BEACH CO. SHERIFF'S DEPT.: It's securely locked in the trunk.
CANDIOTTI: Palm Beach Deputy Carl Martin, an ex-marine, gave up his department issued assault rifle to an officer who is on a waiting list. Martin meantime is licensed to use this own AR-15 on the job.
MARTIN: Personal protection. If outgunned by bad guys due to their superior firepower, maybe we could level the playing ground a little bit.
CANDIOTTI (on camera): This department had already been planning on increasing it's firepower, adding the AR-15 but the goal of arming every officer with this kind of weapon took on added urgency after two area police officers lost their lives. In one case, one deputy was killed and three wounded by a burglary suspect who's own arsenal had the police outgunned.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The civilian version of the M-16.
CANDIOTTI: From inside an evidence vault surrounded by AK-47s, Miami's police chief says since the assault ban expired in 2004, Miami homicides using those guns are on the rise, up 18 percent last year and 20 percent this year.
CHIEF JOHN F. TIMONEY, MIAMI POLICE: Now, my police officers are facing these -- all these various types of assault weapons. What's it's going to look like 10 years from now? What the officers are going to be facing 10 years from now? It's like Rambo becomes reality.
CANDIOTTI: Some activists don't like cops packing extra heat.
(on camera): Shouldn't they even out the playing field?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: If you want to even out the playing field, then maybe you should reduce the amount of firepower. The war is going to stop.
TIMONEY: Unfortunately, I actually agree with that. And for a person of my position, it's a little bit embarrassing that we are engaged in this, but what's the alternative?
CANDIOTTI: Did you think it would ever to come to this when you started off?
PFEIL: When I started off - no, not at all.
CANDIOTTI: Does it scare you?
PFEIL: Certainly. Certainly, it does. CANDIOTTI: Why more police agencies say they're aiming for more protection.
Susan Candiotti, CNN, West Palm Beach, Florida.
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HOLMES: If a lot of you will remember this story horrible story about a pregnant bank teller who was shot in the abdomen by a robber. Well, she was carrying twins and lost both babies and for the first time, we are now hearing from that victim, Katherin Shuffield about what happened inside that Indiana bank about two weeks ago.
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KATHERIN SHUFFIELD, BANK TELLER: That's when he jumped through my teller window, and as soon as he jumped, he shot me. And it was like in a slow motion, going through the floor, and I didn't realize that he shot me until I touched my leg, and I saw there was a lot of blood. Then I said, "Well, please help me, he shot me. He shot me and my babies."
And I didn't let anybody to do anything. He wanted to take the money.
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HOLMES: Shuffield is still in the hospital. She has an infection from the bullet.
NGUYEN: Well, now to politics, let's shift gears here in the close Democratic race. How close is it? How about seven votes? Yes, that was the margin of victory for Barack Obama in the Guam caucuses. He and Hillary Clinton are splitting Guam's four delegates. And here's where they stand right now. Obama leads with 1,736, Clinton has 1,599 total.
Those numbers will change on Tuesday. There are 187 pledged delegates at stake in the primaries in Indiana and North Carolina.
HOLMES: More than 4,500 votes cast in Guam. We'll see quite a few more voters headed to the polls Tuesday in North Carolina and Indiana. And CNN Deputy Political Director Paul Steinhauser is with the CNN Election Express in Indianapolis this morning.
Paul, Guam, well, I'm sure glad they cleared all this up for us.
STEINHAUSER: Yes, you know, Guam is really symbolic of this whole Democratic nomination. I mean, Guam, only four pledged delegates, a little territory, half-way in the other side of the earth, but both campaigns advertised there. The Obama campaign sent a couple of staffers there to get out to vote.
And what happened, T.J., as you said, nothing. Basically a tie, two delegates each. It really just shows how close this race is between Clinton and Obama, T.J. HOLMES: Is Obama selling it though -- a win is a win?
STEINHAUSER: You know what? I don't think he's going to make a heck of a lot of it, seven votes and they split the delegates. So, no, probably not.
HOLMES: What about Indiana, and again, we've been looking at both of these states. But North Carolina is a place where we have seen the race is tightening even though, still, Obama is expected to win it. Indiana, though, that one is the one that's been back-and- forth and how close is it there?
STEINHAUSER: Just close as you can get in Indiana right now. Our CNN Poll of Polls are, which we surveyed, we average the latest surveys in the state, it's dead even, 47-47, a tie. You can't get closer than that, T.J. with about 6 percent still undecided. North Carolina, as you mentioned also, tightening up a little bit, down to single digits. Our latest CNN Poll of Polls shows Obama up about 9 percent now, down from double digits.
And our national numbers show the same story that we see in Indiana. It's basically a dead heat again. Obama up by one in our latest CNN/Opinion Research Corporation National Poll but that is a statistical dead heat.
And both candidates, T.J., both candidates are going after working class voters, both telling them how they can help them in these tough economic times, and both Clinton and Obama been battling over this plan that Hillary Clinton has been touting, and a separate one from John McCain to repeal the federal gas tax this summer. It's about 18 cents a gallon. Both candidates are speaking about it. Here's what they're saying.
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SEN. BARACK OBAMA, (D) PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Now, Senator Clinton and Senator McCain have been using this idea to make the argument that I'm somehow out of touch. Well, let me tell you -- only in Washington can you get away with calling someone out of touch when you're the only one who thinks that 30 cents a day is not enough to help people who were struggling in this economy.
SEN. HILLARY CLINTON, (D) PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Now, it's easy if you don't have to worry how much gas cost. It's kind of simple if you go to the grocery store you can buy whatever you want, you don't have to worry about what's rung up at the cash register. But that's not the way most Americans are living right now. And it's time we have a president who recognized it and said we were going to do something about it.
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STEINHAUSER: It's issue number one here in Indiana, it's issue number one in North Carolina, it's issue number one across the country. Both candidates, T.J., are spending this morning right here in Indianapolis, and they're going to campaign across the states. They're back here tonight for a big Democratic dinner, T.J.
HOLMES: Well, I guess you are in the right spot today. Our Paul Steinhauser, always good to see you, we'll see you a bit later.
And later today, we will take you beyond those 20-second sound bytes to what the candidates are really saying out there, with the full context from the campaign trail. CNN's BALLOT BOWL, today, 4:00 o'clock Eastern.
NGUYEN: Also, make sure you join us Tuesday night for complete coverage of the Indiana and the North Carolina primaries. Join the best political team on television live from the CNN Election Center Tuesday night starting at 7:00 Eastern only on CNN: Your home for politics.
HOLMES: Well, it was a dramatic win for the favorite really in the Kentucky Derby but that's not really the story. It was a horrible ending to the derby because one horse had to be put down.
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LARRY JONES, TRAINER, "EIGHT BELLES": We put everything into them that we have, and they've given us everything they have. They put their lives on the damn line.
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NGUYEN: The emotional end for a fallen filly. We're going to hear more from her trainer ahead.
WOLF: If you happen to be in a high-rise building in New York City and you happen to look out this morning, you're probably going to see something very similar to this. Take a look at that. It looks like the inside of a shower or something, doesn't it? You have the steam, you have the fog, you have the drops on the windows. I guarantee you, it's going to get better later on the day -- plenty of sunshine, high temperatures going back up into the 50s and 60s. More on that and more of your complete forecast coming up in just a few moments.
HOLMES: That could have just been a shower. We would never know.
NGUYEN: I think that's what they look. It's at Reynolds's house.
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HOLMES: Yes, all right. We'll see Reynolds here in just a second. Also, a little later, we'll have HOUSE CALL with Dr. Sanjay Gupta.
DR. SANJAY GUPTA, CNN CHIEF MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT: Thanks, guys. It's all about things that might make you sick this morning. First up: We take a peek inside a home to see where potential allergens could be lurking -- you might be surprised by this. Then, you go to the doctor to get better, right? But you could leave with an infection. Tips you can't afford to miss.
Plus: Unhealthy eating habits sent one man to almost 400 pounds. Details about this amazing turnaround on HOUSE CALL at 8:30.
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NGUYEN: All right. So, about this time yesterday, I had such high hopes. I really did. Adriano, the horse that was running in the Kentucky Derby, my pick, 30 to one, I was really thinking I was going to cash in on this one, 19th.
HOLMES: There is a reason for the 30 to one odds, Betty.
NGUYEN: Yes, because Adriano was running in the 15th slot and no one ever won, no horse ever won after starting in that slot. So, I kind of knew but I figured, you know, hey, maybe beat the odds this time around, no, 19th out of 20 horses. But that's not really the horse that we want to talk about today, not the one that carry the day by any means.
HOLMES: That was actually Big Brown as you see there, coming down the stretch, out ahead, pulling away to win the derby. Pretty commanding fashion here, this is the first leg, of course, of the Triple Crown. The next leg, the Preakness is coming up in two weeks. So, we will see if Big Brown can duplicate this feat and possibly, give us a Triple Crown winner this year.
NGUYEN: Yes, well, triumph then turned to tragedy at the Kentucky Derby. All right. Check that horse out right there. Eight Belles, the only filly in the field, finished an impressive second and you can see her highlighted, but after the end of the race, Eight Belles tumbled into the dirt with two broken angles. Get this -- she had to be put to sleep right there on the track.
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LARRY JONES, TRAINER, "EIGHT BELLES": Now, come on, what do you think these things? They are our family. You know, we put everything into them that we have they've given us everything that they have, they put their lives on the damn line. And she was glad to do it.
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NGUYEN: The broken ankles were just too much for Eight Belles. That accident brought back memories of Barbaro. Remember that horse? The 2006 derby winner was badly injured at the Preakness Stakes and it was later put to sleep. We're going to hear so much more from Eight Belles' trainer next hour. Such a sad story, including the devastating way that he found out what happened.
HOLMES: All right. We will turn to weather. And Reynolds, we were talking about yesterday, possibly if the weather was going to have any effect - any impact on the race and some thought, our Ray D'Alessio was there, didn't know what kind of condition that track would be and be muddied up a little bit. Don't know if that played a role at all in this but just a horrible story to hear.
WOLF: Yes, I think, they did some really good work on it, after the rain we got in the morning, I think they treated the track, they you know, they dried it out and they considered it a fast track yesterday, really unique conditions. But you know, these animals, as big as they are, they are so delicate. They're so delicate and to see that tragedy unfolds, it's just heart-wrenching.
It is heart-wrenching situation in parts of Arkansas this morning, too, where there are so many people that are trying to put the communities back together at this time, thankfully, they've got some decent weather. All the storm activity now is moving onto the Atlantic. Meantime, as we make our way to the northeast, we've got some scattered showers in places like Portland and back into Boston, but in New York, although the heavy rain is out, we still have some fog, and we even have a few telltale rain drops.
Take a look at it. We've got a few posted notes of water you see right there on the window. The lens cap of this camera could be really any place in New York, really doesn't matter. It might be say, and looking at Central Park, maybe even be the Bronx. But situations are the same, the fog is there. But I would say in a couple of hours, it will begin to dissipate and the sunshine will begin to fill through right back in.
Back to the weather computer, as we go back to the weather computer, what we're going to be dealing with as we look at the next couple of hours, that big area of high pressure building in over parts of the Mississippi and Ohio valleys. A lot of mile there, still kind of warm over the desert southeast, no one is complaining there, have some scattered showers in the San Joaquin Valley. That's the latest from your forecast, we'll send it back to you at the news desk.
NGUYEN: We will take it considering what we've seen over the past couple of weeks.
WOLF: (INAUDIBLE)
NGUYEN: Not bad, thank you.
WOLF: You bet.
NGUYEN: All right. Thanks, Reynolds.
Well, many other survivors of Arkansas deadly storm will be cleaning up and also going to church this morning.
NGUYEN: Yes, the storm is blamed for seven deaths and 11 counties have been declared disaster areas.
CNN's Sean Callebs joins us now from hard hit Damascus. He's at a church that was destroyed by the storm. So many people in that community are really feeling the effects of that tornado.
CALLEBS: Without question. We're standing in front of the Southside Baptist Church. You're looking at what was going to be the new sanctuary. It had been under construction for just about one year, they were well over halfway done but Friday's storm put an end to that.
And Betty and T.J., when the storm hit, there are actually seven workers inside doing some drywall work, putting some finishing touches on, well, the pastor got word that the tornado was coming, he was right next door at the parsonage, he came in and he got those workers out into safety joining us right now, pastor Steve Stevens.
That had to be a terrifying time for you. You say you didn't saw form (ph) of cloud but a wall of black coming toward the church. You were inside just 10 seconds. What was it like?
REV. STEVE STEPHENS, PASTOR, SOUTH SIDE BAPTIST CHURCH: It was very loud like bombs exploding. We could - first, the wind was ripping off the top, the sheet metal off the top, and the beams coming down which really shook the foundation of the church. The walls were shaking and needless to say, we were shaking a little bit.
CALLEBS: And the workers were Hispanics and you said, they didn't speak English but fear was the common language. What was it like right afterward?
STEPHENS: Just shock. We were just -- it was raining very hard, we were soaking wet, and it's just -- first the fact that we were alive and unhurt that was adulation but then, when you saw what had just happened just a few feet from you, just shock at the destruction.
CALLEBS: Your congregation is going to go to another Baptist church about five minutes from here. The message today is going to be humility. How quickly something can happen but you hope to leave the parishioners what being more reinvigorating moving forward.
STEPHENS: Yes, we don't want to be thermometer Christians where we're dictated by our circumstances. We're going to move forward, we're going to trust in the Lord's power to protect us and provide for us. And I hope that our people, you know, this -- our strength and by this - our faith is strengthened. It's not weakened.
CALLEBS: I mean, you don't talk about yourself, but you've lost almost everything. Your house is right next door and was simply devastated.
STEPHENS: Well, we lost a lot of material things but all that can be replaced as already been started to be replaced. My wife, my children, my grandchildren, they're all safe and that's everything.
CALLEBS: That's what counts. Pastor, thanks so much for joining. Good luck to you. Good luck to you.
STEPHENS: Thank you.
CALLEBS: And Betty and T.J., real quickly, all the work has been done, you know, this has been part of Damascus since 1911, it's all going to have to come down. They build those, they're going to have to start over from the ground up, but the church says they're ready to do that. Back to you, guys.
NGUYEN: Yes, and just like the pastor said, he doesn't want to be a thermometer Christian dictated by their circumstances. All right. Sean Callebs joining us live. Thank you for bringing us that.
Some major airlines are finding new ways to save on jet fuel.
HOLMES: I hope you're not in a hurry because they're not. We'll have that story for you. Also this coming up.
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WARREN BUFFETT, CEO BERKSHIRE HATHAWAY: We had a housing bubble and that's not the usual cause of a recession, but that's going to be - that's the primary cause for this recession.
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NGUYEN: You know that man. It is Warren Buffett. One of the world's richest persons alive and he is going to be talking about the economy and when he talks we listen.
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HOLMES: OK. Your next flight might take longer - I'm sorry, this makes me chuckle -might take longer because your pilot might be flying slower.
NGUYEN: Yes. Airlines like Southwest and JetBlue, Northwest - they are saving money on fuel by flying slower. Southwest Airlines projects they will save - listen to this -- $43 million in fuel this year and add one to three minutes to each flight.
HOLMES: OK. That's it?
NGUYEN: It sounds that much.
HOLMES: That's what they say.
NGUYEN: Right. But by the time you're delayed at the gate and all of that, it's three hours.
HOLMES: To help the airlines, I'm sure a lot of folks will be willing to give up one to three minutes if that's the case, if that's going to save them fuel.
NGUYEN: But that savings, I doubt, will be passed on to the passengers.
HOLMES: It won't be. Of course not. Yes, all right, Betty.
The cost of filling your gas tank is sky high but it is down as we were saying earlier, Betty. AAA again, you and your pessimism this morning, the latest figure puts the price of regular unleaded at more than $3.61 a gallon.
NGUYEN: All right. Talk about pessimism, how much is it down?
HOLMES: OK. It's down though.
NGUYEN: OK. How much?
HOLMES: But it's down. That's the point.
NGUYEN: Could you just tell them how much it's down.
HOLMES: A penny.
NGUYEN: Less than a penny.
HOLMES: Just round up to a penny.
NGUYEN: Down less than a penny, folks.
HOLMES: OK. And it's actually up - I'm sure this is the part you pessimist would like -- up 60 cents compared to a year ago. Let's take with the positive here, Betty.
NGUYEN: What happens to $1.50 gas?
All right. So, we're moving right along with this economic news. No merger for Microsoft and Yahoo. The world's largest software company drops its bid for Yahoo - yes, dropped, done. Microsoft was offering at least $46 billion but Yahoo wanted $53 billion. A Microsoft-Yahoo merger would have meant big competition for Google which leads in Internet advertising.
HOLMES: The economy maybe going through a pretty tough time right now but billionaire, Warren Buffet, and his investors are celebrating.
NGUYEN: He weathers every single storm of the season when it comes to the economy.
HOLMES: Why would you celebrate when people introduce you by saying, "Billionaire Warren Buffett?
NGUYEN: This is true.
HOLMES: Are they celebrating, too.
NGUYEN: Our Susan Lisovicz caught with the CEO of Berkshire Hathaway at a shareholders' meeting.
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SUSAN LISOVICZ, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Warren Buffett was downright sunny, even though he was quick to use the "R" word.
WARREN BUFFETT, CEO BERKSHIRE HATHAWAY: We had a housing bubble and that's not the usual cause of a recession, but that's going to be - that's the primary cause for this recession. LISOVICZ: The legendary investor served up his usual dose of comic relief at the annual Berkshire Hathaway meeting, but it's just plain and simple financial commentary that drew a record (INAUDIBLE) to Omaha.
BUFFETT: If you want to buy a house tomorrow, you'll get a loan. You know, but if you want to buy a house on the same terms that you bought it a couple of years ago, you won't get a loan.
LISOVICZ: Longtime Berkshire Hathaway shareholders say they don't need a financial SOS. They were buying big time at Borsheims vast jewelry store, one of Berkshire's many companies. But it wasn't quite that indulgent. Each purchase came with a hefty discount. A key component of the Buffett philosophy.
DAN ENGLER, BERKSHIRE HATHAWAY SHAREHOLDER: I'm a conservative individual and when times get tough, I don't need to step backwards.
LISOVICZ: Do you feel as good about the economy as Berkshire?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It's not safe as where we are.
LISOVICZ: Buffett buys things he knows like paint and ice cream.
(on camera): Buffett says he's bullish about great companies with solid management at a good price. That formula has resulted an average annual return of 21.5 percent over the last 43 years.
(voice-over): Which is why investors are in such a good mood. Berkshire Hathaway A-class stock is worth about $133,000 a share.
PATRICIA WARNER, BERKSHIRE HATHAWAY SHAREHOLDER: We have three wines (ph) and we have a bunch of books (INAUDIBLE) -- and all of that is good.
LISOVICZ: Which is making you feel better.
WARNER: The Berkshire Hathaway stock.
LISOVICZ: At 77, Warren Buffett is road tested, but not battle scarred.
SUSAN LISOVICZ, CNN, Omaha, Nebraska.
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NGUYEN: I think I'd be celebrating too if I had some of that stock.
HOLMES: Yes. That's why we're not so (INAUDIBLE) today.
NGUYEN: We're here.
HOLMES: Yes. All right. We have some unusual stories that are generating buzz on the Web this morning to share with you.
NGUYEN: Josh Levs has a preview from the dotcom desk. Good morning.
JOSH LEVS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Hi, good morning to you, guys. Being stuck in a elevator for 41 hours and trying to cash a $360 billion check. Two things that you hopefully have never done but others did. We're going to show coming up right here on CNN SUNDAY MORNING.
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NGUYEN: This is crazy. Listen to this.
HOLMES: Yes, elevator, right, turns into a nightmare and a really big check. Now, OK, you've got to hear this. It's a really, really good stuff.
NGUYEN: It's ridiculous actually. Josh Levs has been following these stories at the dotcom desk. All right, break it down for us.
LEVS: One is about being unlucky, one is about being unbelievably dumb.
NGUYEN: Stupid. Yes.
LEVS: You guys have ever gotten stuck in elevator? Never happened?
NGUYEN: No.
LEVS: But it's everybody's fear, right? Well, it happened to this one guy and now, it's a really hot video. Take a look this. This is Nicholas White who got stuck in the elevator for 41 hours at McGraw Hill Building in New York. A New Yorker now posted this video.
You can - see, he's up against a brick wall. He's screaming for people to let him out. The alarm is going the whole time which starts to drive him insane. He tries to turn it off so that he can get some sleep but then he's afraid people might not realize he's there so he turns it back on.
