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Accused Pastor to Address Ga. Megachurch; Big Names Campaign for Democrats as Election Day Nears; More Artists Find Stardom on YouTube
Aired September 26, 2010 - 06:00 ET
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DREW GRIFFIN, CNN ANCHOR: Good morning to you.
A military legend is laid to rest. That man was the only living African-American World War II veteran. Received the Medal of Honor, and we talked to his family today.
Plus, Bishop Eddie Long in the pulpit of his Atlanta-based megachurch, expected to speak this morning for the first time since four men filed lawsuits against him claiming sexual abuse.
From CNN Center, this is CNN SUNDAY MORNING. It's 6 a.m. here in Atlanta; 1 p.m. in Baghdad. Good morning. I'm Drew Griffin, in for T.J. Holmes. And we want to welcome, with pride, our troops watching on the Armed Forces Network in Iraq and Afghanistan. Thanks for starting your day with us.
Also coming up over the next 90 minutes, protecting state secrets or going too far? The Defense Department buys and then destroys thousands of copies of this book, written by an Army reserve officer - a book disclosing secret operations in Afghanistan. A department spokesman says the book, titled "Operation Dark Heart," contained information that could damage national security. The author, a lieutenant colonel, said, the action - quoting here - smacks of retaliation.
Believe it or not, this bird - that one there - it's under arrest. Police in one notorious drug-trading city in Colombia say the parrot was trained by his owners, suspected drug dealers, to alert them when the police showed up. We'll have the details for you in our morning passport.
Plus, profiting on YouTube. You may not know their names, but you know their videos. And now, their online videos are earning them a pretty good living.
But let's get right to the controversy over a leading Baptist minister. Bishop Eddie Long of the New Birth Missionary Baptist Church is expected to respond this morning to accusations he had sexual relations with four young men.
He will address that this morning in his own church, to his parishioners, during the 8 a.m. service, and again during the 11 a.m. service. He has also scheduled a 10 a.m. news conference. Long, who took the church from 300 members to 25,000, has denied the accusations. The four men bringing these lawsuits claimed the pastor took them on overnight trips, sharing a room and engaging in sexual contact.
The allegations have stunned Long's congregation. CNN's Don Lemon talked to several church members last night right here. They do support him, believe in him, as he calls the allegations untrue. As one of the supporters put it, the black church is loyal, sometimes to a fault.
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JOHN CAMPBELL III, NEW BIRTH CHURCH MEMBERS: The bishop is a family-oriented man, and he will view New Birth as his family. So I do see why he would - he would delay speaking to the radio before speaking to his congregation.
DON LEMON, CNN ANCHOR: Kevin, go ahead.
KEVIN BOND, FORMER NEW BIRTH EMPLOYEE: Well, we do understand the delay. But even those of us in Christendom that are not members of New Birth, we also want to hear from Bishop Long. And there are those that have supported his ministry, bought the books, bought the videos and tapes and the CDs as well. And we do want him to speak out so that whatever this cloud of suspicion is over him, you know, can be dispersed.
LEMON: Yes.
Listen, I know it's very tough to listen to this. And - but I want you to listen to what the lawyer of the accused had to say about one of the young men that has accused the bishop and their relationship and what happened.
Let's play that, and then we'll talk about it.
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B.J. BERNSTEIN, CRIMINAL DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Anthony was moved in and lived in that house for approximately at the end of 11th grade, when he was 17 years old. And there, the pastor started to do what adult pedophiles with younger - younger people, which is starting to spend time with them, casually watch TV with them and lay his legs on him. And then ask him to massage him. And then start explaining to him how special he was to him, and it was special for the bishop to be able to spend time with him.
They did devotional readings together. He was over there on a regular basis at this house.
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LEMON: What do you think when you hear that?
What do you think when you hear that, John? CAMPBELL: I still have a feeling that those - those are not the intentions of Bishop.
Bishop is known to be a mentor to young men. And I feel that him having interaction with this young man or watching TV with him is - is nothing. I don't feel that it was anything with a negative intention behind that.
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GRIFFIN: Well, this is shaping up as one of the most important days in Bishop Eddie Long's life and how he deals with the future. CNN is going to have coverage throughout the day.
Let's outline that for you. In the next hour, we are going to talk with Bonnie Jackson-Ransom. She wrote the book, "How To Market Your Ministry." She'll look at the challenge Long faces dealing with this crisis and the missteps he may have already made.
We'll also have coverage of Bishop Long's church service live at 8 a.m. Eastern, when he faces his congregation for the first time since this story broke.
We're also going to have coverage of the news conference at 10 a.m., the first chance reporters will have to question him.
And then he will return for his second worship service, and a chance to address a different audience, at 11 a.m. Eastern. We urge you to stay with CNN throughout the day as we follow developments on this story.
And next we're going to check in with Bonnie Schneider, and the continued flooding problems plaguing Wisconsin.
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GRIFFIN: Well, all summer long inside a playground in Cambridge, Massachusetts, dog poop has been the gift that keeps on giving. Shedding light on what could be a viable source of renewable energy.
It's called the Sparks Project. Poop is deposited into a special container that composts it. One of those components of the waste is methane gas. And the methane gas, we're told, powers a single old- fashioned gas light in that park.
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GRIFFIN: Hey, do you know any heroes out there? Here is your chance to honor them, and our CNN special "Hero of the Year" program. We're going to introduce you to some amazing candidates, tell you how you can nominate someone you know.
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JOSH LEVS, CNN CONTRIBUTOR: We're back on CNN SUNDAY MORNING. I'm Josh Levs.
I'm going to tell you now about some of the most inspirational people in the world.
We have for you the Top 10 CNN heroes this year. Now, I don't want to give preference to any, because you get to decide who wins. So what I do is, every time I'm on, I tell you about a few of them.
Let's go to some video here. I want to start off telling you about Magnus MacFarlane, one of the many with incredible stories. This man has a program, Mary's Meals, that operates from a tin shed in the Scottish Highlands. Provides free daily meals to more than 400,000 children around the world since 1992.
Let's jump to the next video, Naryanan Krishna, brings hot meals to India's poorest people every day of the year. That program has served more than a million meals since 2002.
And I'll tell you about a third of the top 10 here. This is Harmon Parker, who's using masonry skills to save lives. He helped build footbridges over perilous rivers in Kenya. He's been protecting people from flash floods and from predatory animals and making it so that they can access critical resources that they did not have access to previously.
These are the kinds of people that we get to highlight every year in "CNN Heroes." And now - now, that we've had this big announcement about who the top 10 are, you can check them all out and you can decide who the CNN "Here of the Year" is.
So take a look at this. This is the website right here: CNNheroes.com. It gets you in; it gives you the stories of all 10. Spend a little time on it; check them all out before you make your choice.
And then, here's what you can do: When you jump over here, it shows you some of the people who were considered for the top 10. And it shows you - it highlights who these top 10 are. You click on any one of them, and we bring you to information about what they do. We have stories, videos, background, their own words about why they do what they do. These people are just amazing to learn about, the kinds of people that we all should pay a little more attention to.
Then, when you spend enough time on all that, then it's time to vote. And you'll make the choice about who the "CNN Hero of the Year" is. And this is all you have to do: Click on the "Vote now" tab at the top of the page to decide whom you want to choose. Boom, put your - put your - just click the person, and then they appear right there. You type in some words, and you can vote.
And you can vote an unlimited numbers of times. All of these top 10 heroes are getting $25,000. Whoever wins this will get $100,0000. You can vote all the way though Nov. 17. And the winner will be announced in the special that airs Thanksgiving night here on CNN. It's always an exciting night, and it's always a great chance to stop and take a look at people in this world who are making a difference, literally, all over the planet.
So, Drew, ever since this just went up the other day with the top 10 announcement, we've been starting to get a big rush of vote. And we certainly expect thousands and thousands more, leading up to that big day, on Thanksgiving.
GRIFFIN: Yes, all culminating on Thanksgiving. It's great - great just to read...
LEVS: It's awesome.
GRIFFIN: ...no matter if they win or not, read their stories.
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GRIFFIN: Josh.
Former Massachusetts governor in New Hampshire, firing up the Republican base. The former presidential candidate is on a mission. Mitt Romney, after the break - his conservative message. Strong words for the Obama administration and how he's beefing up the Republican war chest.
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GRIFFIN: Still not official if former presidential candidate Mitt Romney's going to give it another run in 2012. But boy, it sounded like it in New Hampshire yesterday.
The former Massachusetts governor took center stage at the Republican Party state convention, sounding the call to bring Republican values back to Washington. Pumping up the rhetoric against the White House, and saying the president and his administration simply don't get it.
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MITT ROMNEY (R), FORMER PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: You know, we had the government declare war before. Declare war on - on poverty, declare war on drugs. This is the first time I can recall the government declaring war on private enterprise. And that's why our economy didn't get going. And we're going to change that this November.
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GRIFFIN: Well, Romney's political-action committee has endorsed or donated money to fellow Republicans running for office this year in nearly 40 states.
The Democrats - well, they got a lot to worry about before 2012. They bring out their heavy hitters, stumping for them with an eye to the elections this November, including former President Bill Clinton.
CNN's senior political editor Mark Preston has this and a look at the week ahead in politics.
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MARK PRESTON, CNN SENIOR POLITICAL EDITOR: Hey, good morning, Drew.
Thirty-seven days until Election Day, and the week is kicking off with President Clinton on the campaign trail. In fact, he's in Massachusetts on behalf of Congressman Barney Frank. And then he goes down to Connecticut for the Senate nominee, the Democratic nominee down there, Richard Blumenthal.
Bill Clinton becoming a go-to guy for Democrats on the campaign trail.
On Monday, Vice President Biden heads up to New Hampshire. He's going to be doing some campaigning on behalf of Carol Shea-Porter. She's a congressman trying to seek re-election, as well as Paul Hodes, the Democrat who's trying to win back that Senate seat in New Hampshire that currently is held by a Republican.
Also, Haley Barbour's going to be in New Hampshire. He's the Mississippi governor. He heads up the RGA, which is the Republican Governors Association. He's up there doing a fundraiser on behalf of John Stephen. He's the - the GOP nominee who's trying to take on John Lynch, the incumbent Democratic governor.
Going on to Tuesday, President Obama holds the first of four major rallies heading into Election Day. This one's going to be in Madison, Wisconsin. Why is this important? Because Russ Feingold, who was elected in 1992, is up against the ropes. Republicans think that they can take back this seat. Public polling shows right now is a very, very tight race.
President Obama is trying to rally the troops, not only in Wisconsin, but across the country. He's trying to get those voters who came out for him in 2008 to come out for congressional Democrats in 2010.
But moving on, let's go to Thursday. It's the return of Al Gore. And he's going to be in Florida. Al Gore's going to be in Tampa. He's going to be campaigning on behalf of Kendrick Meek. Kendrick Meek is the Senate Democratic nominee trying to win that seat down there currently held by a Republican. A very interesting three-way race right now down there. Marco Rubio is the Republican nominee. And of course, Charlie Crist is the former Republican, very popular governor, who's now running an independent bid. So all eyes are on Florida.
And then let's go back to New Hampshire on Friday. Another potential presidential candidate, Tim Pawlenty, is going to be up there campaigning for Stephen as well.
And then on Saturday, Mike Pence is going to be in Iowa. Mike Pence, the Indiana congressman who is seriously considering a run for president in 2012. Mike Pence is going to be speaking to the Iowa for Faith and Freedom Coalition.
So Pence, Barbour, Romney and Pawlenty, all potential 2012 candidates, on the campaign trail this week - Drew.
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GRIFFIN: Busy week, Mark. Thanks.
And as always, you can get all your political headlines at CNNpolitics.com.
Well, YouTube aren't just for the Internet amusement anymore. Some of the people who post them are making some serious money. We caught up with one college grad who turned herself into a YouTube star.
She took a timeout to show one of our photojournalists how you do this.
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GRIFFIN: This is from the "how do they do that" category. Cashing in off YouTube.
You've seen all the viral videos. But these days, more people are turning them into a booming business. If you have a keen eye for flair, or are in the right place at the right time and there's a video camera within arm's reach, you, too, could make some cash from your online output.
Case in point: Julia Nunes. She's a virtual YouTube sensation. Listen to this: Her videos have more than 37 million hits.
CNN photojournalist Emmanuel Tambakakis was there when she put one together.
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JULIA NUNES, YOUTUBE STAR: There's been a lot of people who have gotten a lot of recognition on YouTube. I am Julia Nunes. I know that most of the things that have come to me. I am a ukulele player. Successwise, like touring with Ben Folds and - and now Ben Cuellar, I got because they found me on YouTube.
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NUNES: I think the first one that got a lot of views like that was, "Into the Sunshine," which was a guitar song.
(SINGING) NUNES: And one of the first ones that I did harmonies and multitracking things on.
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NUNES: God, I have no idea. Maybe - maybe over a million. I think over a million by now.
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NUNES: I got, like, a really cool little following of like 1,000 people up until "Into the Sunshine" got featured, which, like, kicked me up to 10,000.
I'm somewhere in, like, 150,000 subscribers, growing steadily.
I don't like the term YouTube sensation because it makes me feel like a laughing baby, a cat that fell down somewhere.
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NUNES: This is my whole setup.
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NUNES: Now that I'm playing shows where everyone who's there bought a ticket specifically to see me and they're singing my songs back at me - I think that's when it becomes real.
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NUNES: That's just a computer and a microphone.
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NUNES: Because it's easy to look at numbers on a screen and be like, 'Yes, I'm doing great.'
Until there's, like, a girl that's nervous to meet you. If you want an audience, then you can just go and find your own audience. Because I did.
Having people listen to what you have to say and the music you're making is probably one of the most gratifying things in the world.
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GRIFFIN: It's a whole new world, isn't it?
How do Eddie Long - Bishop Eddie Long's parishioners view him in the wake of these sexual-abuse allegations? We're going to hear from experts who say black churches elevate their spiritual leaders to superstars, and the pluses and minuses for the congregation.
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GRIFFIN: Welcome back. It's 6:30 on this Monday morning. I'm Drew Griffin in for T.J. Holmes. Checking top stories this half hour.
A man with a grudge and a gun returned to a party in East Orange, New Jersey, last night and shot five people. A 19-year-old woman died. The others, two men, two women, have minor wounds.
Police say the gunman tried to crash this off-campus party near Seton Hall University. When he failed to get in, he returned with a gun and started shooting. Police are offering a $10,000 reward to catch him.
The Pentagon bought and then destroyed almost 10,000 copies of that book, an Army officer's memoir. It says information in "Operation Dark Heart" could damage national security.
The book deals with Lieutenant Colonel Anthony Shaffer's time in Afghanistan leading a black ops team. The publisher printed a second version with changes approved by the Pentagon. Ebay's offering an unedited first edition for $2,000. Shaffer says the digital age makes it impossible to suppress information.
Now to Chile, a new step forward in the rescue operation for the trapped miners. A capsule that rescuers hope will ferry the men to the surface one by one has arrived at the San Jose mine. It was delivered ahead of schedule although the government is sticking with its estimate of a rescue by early November. An accident trapped those 33 miners back in early August.
For years, Bishop Eddie Long has encouraged people to believe in God. This morning he's asking people to believe in him. Long will respond publicly for the first time to accusations from four young men who claim he coerced them into sexual contact.
Each has filed a lawsuit against this popular pastor of New Birth Missionary Church in suburban Atlanta. In a statement released last week, the pastor denied the allegations. This is his morning's schedule. Worship services begin at 8:00 a.m. Eastern. At some time during that hour, Bishop Long will address the allegations with his parishioners, we're told.
At the 10:00 Eastern hour, he has scheduled a news conference for the first time speaking directly to the media about these accusations. Long is also expected to talk about the accusations again during the church's 11:00 a.m. Eastern service.
Last night CNN anchor Don Lemon discussed the role of black preachers within the African-American community. His guests, Columbia University professor Mark Lamont Hill, host of "Our World with Black enterprise," and Tulane University associate professor Shayne Lee. Lee's research includes the sociology and religion of African-American religion.
Don asked, is there a tendency is to elevate church leaders, especially in the black community, to superstar status. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
MARC LAMONT HILL, HOST, "OUR WORLD WITH BLACK ENTERPRISE": For a long time, preachers were one of the few people who had access to education and they're one of the few people who exercise true leadership.
For so long time the black church has been a center piece of not just religious life, but black cultural and black political life. So preachers are superstars before we had senators and presidents, we had celebrity preachers. We continue to sort of raise them up now.
DON LEMON: So Shayne Lee, is that necessarily a bad thing?
SHAYNE LEE, ASSOCIATE PROFESSOR, TULANE UNIVERSITY: It depends. It can be good because I think competition and having people, ministers learn from each other and improve their messages and their ministries, the technologies, their ways of meeting the needs and tastes of people, I think that's a good thing.
But when you build a spiritual empire, it creates new pragmatic realities that you have to deal with, and that means generating large sums of money, and that might challenge the prophetic nature of your ministry, causing you to take shortcuts or even causing you to buy into the hype and to see yourself as a star rather than as a humble servant.
So I think it can be good and enhancing the professionalism of the black church, but it can also be something that pride comes before a fall, as the bible says.
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GRIFFIN: We are going to talk much more about the pastor's troubles and their impact in the 7:00 Eastern hour. Bunny Jackson- Ransom will be my guest.
She wrote the book, how to market your ministry. She'll give us her take on the public relations battle Bishop Long is facing right now and analyze how he's handling the damaging allegations so far. We'll be back after this break.
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GRIFFIN: A teenage surfer was attacked by a shark. It happened in Virginia Beach, Friday. Eighteen year old Caleb Kauchak and his friends were hoping for big waves. Instead, look at that. They got a terrifying surprise. They were just chest deep when they realized they weren't alone.
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CALEB KAUCHAK, SHARK-ATTACK SURVIVOR: He said, there's something out here with us, and I couldn't even finish my next sentence before it already grabbed my ankle. And I kind of felt a little thrashing.
ADAM WILSON, FRIEND: From the waist down, he had carbon in his blood. I had a lot on my arms. It was pretty hectic.
KAUCHAK: I immediately jumped on my board to get myself out of the water. As I did, I felt my board start to lean back, and I felt a sharp pain in my knee. After that, he let go. It was just a quick bite and release.
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GRIFFIN: Wow, Caleb rushed to the hospital, 51 stitches there in his foot. Relieved he didn't lose the leg, but he says the attack, no, it's not going to keep him out of the water, Bonnie, like so many surfers. Even a shark won't keep them out. They love it.
BONNIE SCHNEIDER, AMS METEOROLOGIST: They do and they love when there's any kind of tropical system nearby to give them the big waves. But we always say, don't do it because of the rip tides. It's so dangerous to head out there.
Speaking of tropical systems, let's take a look at what's going on with Matthew. This is a tropical depression. If you zoom in right here, you can see it working its way over parts of Central America right now, creating treacherous amounts of rain.
This means that we're going to run the risk of mud slides for today through Central America. So it's definitely going to be a problem. We're also watching for some of the moisture to creep back into the Bay of Campeche. It may emerge as a new tropical system that could impact the U.S.
Well, it's still early to say and it's something we're monitoring for sure. We're also monitoring the flooding situation across parts of the Midwest that occurred on Thursday. But today and we're still dealing with the effects.
I want to show you video from an I-Reporter, what it's been looking like into the Wisconsin area. We are definitely seeing a lot of flood waters. This is taken by Tim Krause in Biron, Wisconsin. Look how high that water is. You can see moving up the tree trunks. A lot of people were flooded out because the water rushed in very quickly.
If you're still right now kind of cleaning up from the floods because the water is slowly receding, just be careful. Don't try to walk through the flood waters yourself. You don't know if there are loose power lines or debris, and you could get injured very quickly.
Let's take a look at what's happening right now. Flood warnings for a lot of rivers, particularly in southern Minnesota, this area right here south of Minneapolis is where we saw almost 10 inches of rain.
So it's going to take a while for that water to recede. Heavy thunderstorms today are south of the flood area through parts of the Midwest, including areas into Missouri, into parts of Kentucky at this hour. And then down south, we're picking up a lot of thunderstorm activity through Georgia, from north Georgia near the mountains, all the way down to the Florida border. Heavy rain will bring about a change of events in the temperatures once this clears out.
The front today is somewhat stationary so the rain will linger, have the umbrella across the southeast. But I can tell you this that we are looking at things improving, if you want a taste of the cooler weather now that we're in fall.
First fall weekend, temperatures are seeing some dramatic changes from today, from yesterday. I'm talking about the northeast and the Midwest. Highest today in the 60s, that means this morning temperatures in some places are in the upper 40s.
It's cool out there. We'll be looking for a high of 68 in Boston, 69 in New York, 65 in St. Louis. That's a big change. Washington, D.C., you'll hit 70. That's a lot cooler than the 99 we got up to over the past week. But definitely the cool down is emerging.
For those of you that are traveling, just to give you the heads up for a busy Sunday. We're already seeing a lot of airport activity. You can see the planes in the air. There are 1,129 of them right now. Most of the activity is in the eastern part of the country. Drew, I'm expecting things to get busy. This is the time of year where a lot people like to go away for the weekend because the weather is finally looking good.
GRIFFIN: Yes and you know, what else? Those frequent flier blackout days kind of go away - especially on the weekends. Thanks, Bonnie.
SCHNEIDER: Sure.
GRIFFIN: A military legend laid to rest. The only living African-American World War II vet to receive the Medal of Honor buried this week at Arlington Cemetery. You know, like a lot of these World War II vets, his wife didn't even know about his accomplishments until decades later.
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GRIFFIN: It's 42 minutes past the hour. Let's check our top stories now. The future of Mideast peace talks appears to hinge on whether Israel extends its freeze on settlement building. The self- imposed moratorium ends today.
Addressing the United Nations yesterday, that's Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas, suggesting that the recently restarted peace talks would be at risk if Israel resumes building in the West Bank. The U.S. is pushing Israel to resolve this issue by extending the moratorium on settlements.
The Pentagon defending its move to buy and burn almost 10,000 copies of a book written by an Army reserve officer and critic of the Afghan war, that's the book.
The Defense Department spokesman says "Operation Dark Heart" contained information, which could threaten national security, revealing military operations in Afghanistan.
The officer who wrote it said the government is trying to suppress the story. The book's publisher says a second pressing of the officer's memoir contains government-approved edits.
We were talking about this yesterday. Swedish police now have released the passenger who taken off a plane bound for Pakistan yesterday. Now the police want to talk to the tipster who incorrectly told them that man was carrying explosives.
The plane and its 273 passengers landed at Stockholm Airport based on a phone call out of Canada. No explosives were found on board that flight. Swedish authorities are now trying to track down the Canadian caller.
Vernon Baker was the only living black World War II vet to receive the coveted Medal of Honor. Baker died in July. He was laid to rest Friday at Arlington National Cemetery. His widow said he considered himself just a simple soldier. CNN's Natasha Barrett has more on this American hero.
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NATASHA BARRETT (voice-over): For years, Vernon Baker's wife didn't know what her husband accomplished in World War II. Baker's wife said he never spoke about the war until decades later, when the Army lieutenant was awarded the Medal of Honor by President Clinton. Baker was the only living black World War II veteran to receive the military's highest honor.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Fifty years he had to wait before he got the Medal of Honor.
BARRETT: What do you think he would have said today?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: What he would have said, my husband was never a person for big crowds. He would have said, babe, here there are so many people. Let's go home.
BARRETT: Baker's heroic actions in the war were finally recognized in 1996. An Army study reevaluated the heroism of blacks in World War II. Baker learned about his Medal of Honor in a phone call. He passed away in July from brain cancer at 90. He was laid to rest at Arlington National Cemetery.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I feel like I abandoned my husband. I have to live them behind, ands that the worst feeling.
BARRETT: Walking behind the Medal of Honor flag, three other recipients. At the burial, Baker's step grandson who is named after his grandfather. Did he say anything regarding his legacy?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: No. He just considered himself just a simple soldier and nothing else. He did his job, and that was it.
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GRIFFIN: Terrific story. Congratulations to that family. Well, you know, you have to see this one to believe it. Here's the video.
That parrot is under arrest, in some hot water in Colombia. We'll tell you why and a guy on Twitter trying to help drivers in South Africa. We're following those stories next in our morning passport next with Nadia Bilchik.
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GRIFFIN: Very cute, whoever picked that music. We have two unlikely anti-police warning systems from two countries on our radar this morning.
A guy in South Africa is tweeting to warn drivers, tweet, tweet and his style of prose making him a bit of a celebrity. Then there's this tweeter, Lorenzo, an eagle-eyed parrot working as a watchdog for drug traffickers.
Both stories are in the global spotlight with CNN editorial producer Nadia Bilchik joining us live this morning to break it all down.
NADIA BILCHIK, CNN EDITORIAL PRODUCER: Yes, Drew, two whistle blowers with very different natures from different parts of the world. You have a drug cartel in Barranquila, Colombia, which is infamous for drug cartels and drug trafficking.
The police come into a warehouse, a parrot called Lorenzo shouts, run, run. Unfortunately, it seems that people were actually caught, and so were many weapons seized and some cocaine and some marijuana. But astounding that Lorenzo, the parrot not only told the police his name, I am Lorenzo, but also could full sentences, speak in full sentences.
The amount of training that must have gone into that and what's extraordinary, what you and I were saying earlier, is he's not the only parrot. There's a lot of parrot in Colombia that are being used to alert drug traffickers and drug cartels about the police.
GRIFFIN: And now he's a jail bird, right, Lorenzo?
BILCHIK: I guess. So from a bird who speaks to a person who tweets. We go to South Africa.
GRIFFIN: OK.
BILCHIK: And we go to speak about a Twitter in South Africa, who goes as the name@pig spotter and he says that he is going to alert the public to where traffic traps are, where there are speed traps and road blocks.
And, of course, the police are quite furious, but think about this. You have at pig spotter, who's an infamous man gaining a lot of attention in South Africa. But he's not the only person, he's got 17,000 followers who are tweeting to him so he is the conduit.
Now he says, in his defense. I want to read you what he says. He says, I am surprised by the amount of media attention. It was never the reason for starting pigspotter. Now the police corruption is in the limelight, maybe we can turn the negative into a positive, by working with the police, rooting out the bad apples, corrupt members, we can restore faith into the police of South Africa. Some people actually calling him the Robin Hood.
GRIFFIN: Well, you know what? If his warning is that the police are everywhere and everybody behaves, what the heck?
BILCHIK: Well, on Friday he stopped tweeting about road blocks because he was even tweeting about road blocks. Now he's saying maybe road blocks are positive in some ways. They do catch drunken drivers and some criminals. We're not tweeting about road blocks anymore.
It's so interesting. I mean, think about the creative uses of Twitter and Twitter being a microblog and suddenly being used for this. Although I was on the airplane this week, and on one of the travel magazines, they have GPS and Smartphone here in the U.S., you can download an app that does allow you to see where all the speed traps are apparently. As the investigative brilliant reporter that you are, that's something to look into.
GRIFFIN: Maybe we'll do check into that. The bird thing fascinates me because, I guess, in Colombia, there are like 1,700 birds, or 1,200 birds they believe are being used by drug traffickers or drug traders to warn them that police are coming.
BILCHIK: Yes and think of the amount of time, effort, and energy because not only can they speak in full sentences they can recognize the police. So parrots are much smarter than you ever thought they were.
GRIFFIN: I guess, always amazing the ingenuity of criminals these days.
BILCHIK: The creativity, which keeps you in business full-time, right, Drew?
GRIFFIN: If they could just bottle that and use it for good, my golly.
BILCHIK: Well, it will be interesting to see what both tweeters and parrots come up with next.
GRIFFIN: All right, Nadia. Thank you so much for blowing the whistle on these stories.
BILCHIK: Thank you.
GRIFFIN: Airport security absolutely essential, right? Of course, but is it too much? The story of one woman who thinks she knows the answer next.
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GRIFFIN: We've all been through that tight security at the airport. Some of us have been through the ringer. Waiting in long lines, removing shoes, sometimes even random screenings, it's for our own safety, right? How much is too much? One woman says she learned that answer to the question the hard way. CNN's Kate Bolduan reports.
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KATE BOLDUAN (voice-over): Kathy Parker says her travel nightmare started with this wallet.
KATHY PARKER, FILED COMPLAINT AGAINST TSA: They looked through the compartments, you know, they kind of look through like this. In this compartment, I keep a lot of receipts, so they were actually pulling out receipts and they're looking at them. They would open it all the way up.
BOLDUAN: And that is when Parker says her trip through Philadelphia airport security went too far.
PARKER: It was very uncomfortable. It was embarrassing to have your personal things from inside your wallet, receipts just laid out in the open and people looking. It was just a horrific experience.
BOLDUAN: And that wasn't all. Parker was flying to Charlotte, North Carolina, on business in August when she says Transportation Security Administration agents and local law enforcement detained her for an hour, questioning her, searching her personal items, even calling her husband to say she was suspected of embezzlement after finding $8,000 in checks in her wallet.
PARKER: They told him that they detained me because they suspected it was a divorce situation and that I was emptying out our bank accounts.
BOLDUAN: Parker calls the incident humiliating, an invasion of privacy, and is working with the ACLU to make sure it doesn't happen again.
LAURA MURPHY, AMERICAN CIVIL LIBERTIES UNION: Kathy Parker was violated. The TSA went far beyond their mandate in looking into whether this was a divorce situation or an embezzlement situation. That's not related to assuring the safety of aviation and what the TSA needs to understand is the airport is not a constitution-free zone.
BOLDUAN: Although TSA does not restrict passengers from carrying large sums of money, agents do alert local law enforcement if they suspect criminal activity. The TSA declined to comment on the Parker incident.
But in a statement they said, quote, "TSA strives to treat all passengers with dignity and respect. We hold our employees to the highest professional and ethical standards, have a zero tolerance policy for inappropriate behavior, and act swiftly when proper protocols are not followed."
(on camera): Are you looking for an explanation?
PARKER: That may help, but what I'm really looking for is just to avoid this happening to me or anyone else. I don't think anybody should pay this price when they fly.
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BOLDUAN: Last year after a separate incident in St. Louis, the ACLU filed suit against the Department of Homeland Security, saying that incident reflected a larger problem of unlawful searches at airports. Kathy Parker says she plans to file a law suit as well. Kate Bolduan, CNN, Washington. * KATE BOLDUAN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: -- saying that incident reflected a larger problem of unlawful searches at airports. Kathy Parker says she plans to file a lawsuit as well.
Kate Bolduan, CNN, Washington.
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DREW GRIFFIN, CNN ANCHOR: It is now the top of the hour -- one hour away from that man, Bishop Eddie Long, going to the pulpit of his Atlanta-based megachurch. He's expected to speak an hour from now or so for the first time since four men filed lawsuits against him, claiming sexual abuse.
From the CNN Center, this is CNN SUNDAY MORNING. It's 7:00 a.m. here in Atlanta, 6:00 a.m. in Minnesota.
Good morning. I'm Drew Griffin, in for T.J. Holmes. And thank you so much for starting your day with us.
Let's get right to this controversy over Bishop Eddie Long -- Long of New Birth Missionary Baptist Church. That's his church, but his ministry goes far beyond that. He's expected to respond this morning to accusations of having sexual relations with four young men. He will do it in his own church addressing his own parishioners during the 8:00 a.m. Eastern and 11:00 a.m. Eastern services.
He is also scheduled a 10:00 a.m. news conference. Long, who took that church from about 300 members to 25,000, has denied the accusations. The four men bringing the lawsuits claim the pastor took them on overnight trips, sharing a room, and engaging in sexual contact.
New Birth Missionary Baptist Church is located on a 250-acre complex in the suburban Atlanta community of Lithonia.
Martin Savidge is covering this story from Lithonia this morning.
And, Martin, I'm wondering -- it is early there. But is the congregation already showing up? Are they getting in line to get a good seat?
MARTIN SAVIDGE, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, absolutely, Drew. Good morning to you. There's no --
GRIFFIN: And apparently, we just lost Marty's signal. But we will get that back up as soon as possible. In fact, he is back.
Martin, we just lost you as you were beginning to speak. Sorry.
SAVIDGE: As I was saying, yes, you're right. The congregation has begun showing up. A rain has now started falling, and a fairly heavy one at that. But we found there were people already here in the church parking lot around 5:30 this morning.
Keep in mind, the service does not begin until 8:00 this morning, and it's not expected until about 8:30 that Bishop Eddie Long actually makes his appearance and goes inside the church itself to begin explaining to the congregation exactly what these charges mean and how he plans to respond to them.
But there are a lot of people who want to hear it from himself. They're tired of hearing it from the media, and they want to know exactly what their pastor has to say. Throughout the week, through his spokespeople and through his attorneys, he's been quite defiant. But this will be the first time the congregation actually gets to hear it from the man himself. And, of course, that's going to have a great deal of meaning.
The feed coming from inside the church is supposed to end exactly the time that Bishop Long begins to speak to the congregation. The reason for that, they say, is that the congregation should be the first to hear what the bishop has to say. The media will hear it second.
There is expected to be a news conference by the bishop that will be held in between the two services, the first service at 8:00, the next one at 11:00. I'm going to move inside the tent because it's getting very damp -- Drew.
GRIFFIN: Yes, as you make that move, let me ask you -- will reporters be allowed to at least sit in on the service, or will there be just a private feed where you'll be able to actually see and hear during that 8:00 service what this man is going to say?
SAVIDGE: As far as the we know, the reporters, even though the feed is going to stop, the reporters who are inside the church will be allowed to remain and they'll be allowed to listen and hear as he addresses the congregation. But there will be no recording. So, we will be present. We will be able to take notes, and, of course, we will be able to report to you what is said.
Whether or not he will repeat exactly what he tells the congregation as the news conference that comes later, I'm sure many reporters will ask him to do so.
GRIFFIN: We have talked yesterday, Martin, about your extensive coverage of this, and his advice from his attorneys is really to say nothing. I was a little bit stunned that he'll open up to reporters in a news conference during the 10:00 hour this morning. Do you expect that to be a full news conference?
SAVIDGE: We do -- although, you know, we have to point out that there have been a number of promises that have been made by his spokes people throughout the week. You might remember it was expected that Bishop Long was going to appear on a nationally-syndicated radio talk show, and then at the last minute, it was his attorney that showed up instead. Then there was supposed to be a news conference during the week in which Bishop Long would respond to the allegations. That was abruptly cancelled after more of these lawsuits in filed.
So, you know, exactly what is going to happen with this news conference? We anticipate that Bishop Eddie Long will be there. We're told his wife will be with him, as will be his attorneys. But exactly what gets to be asked, how long we get to ask, we'll have to wait and see.
GRIFFIN: All right. Martin Savidge, take care my friend. Looks like a hurricane rather than a church service this morning. But we'll stick with you all morning long as we follow this developing story. Thank you, Martin.
The allegations have stunned Long's congregation. CNN's Don Lemon talked with several church members last night. They support him even though he cancelled a radio interview and a news conference that might have put those troubling questions to rest. Here's what they had to say.
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JOHN CAMPBELL III, NEW BIRTH CHURCH MEMBER: Our bishop is a family-oriented man, and he would view New Birth as his family. So I do see why he would delay speaking to the radio before speaking to his congregation.
DON LEMON, CNN ANCHOR: Kevin, go ahead.
KEVIN BOND, FORMER NEW BIRTH EMPLOYEE: Well, we understand the delay. But even those of us in Christendom that are not members of New Birth, we also want to hear from Bishop Long. And there are those that have supported his ministry, bought the books, bought the videos and tapes and C.D.s as well. And we do want him to speak out so that whatever this cloud of suspicion is over him, you know, can be dispersed.
LEMON: Yes. Listen, I know it's very tough to listen to this, but I want to you listen to what the lawyer of the accused had to say about one of the young men that has accused the bishop and their relationship and what happened. Let's play that, and then we'll talk about it.
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B.J. BERNSTEIN, CRIMINAL DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Anthony was moved in and lived in that house for approximately at the end of 11th grade, when he was 17 years old. And there, the pastor started to do what adult pedophiles do with younger people, which is starting to spend time with him, casually watch TV with him and lay his legs on him, and then ask him to massage him, and then start explaining to him how special he was to him and it was special for the bishop to be able to spend time with him. They did devotional readings together. He was over there on a regular basis at this house.
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LEMON: What do you think when you hear that? What do you think when you hear that, John?
CAMPBELL: I -- I still have a feeling those are not the intentions of bishop. Bishop is known to be a mentor to young men, and I feel that him to have an interaction with this young man or watching TV with him is nothing. I don't feel that it was anything with a negative intention behind it.
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GRIFFIN: Well, the allegations against Bishop Eddie Long surfaced Tuesday. There have been numerous developments since then. We are going to take you step by step through everything that has happened up to this point. We'll be right back.
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GRIFFIN: When Bishop Eddie Long steps up to the pulpit this morning, it will be the first time that parishioners and others hear from him since these accusations broke about sexual relationships with four young men.
And our Josh Levs is here with a timeline of the events in this scandal -- Josh.
JOSH LEVS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Yes, when we stop and look at it today, on a Sunday, it's kind of amazing how much happened in that compressed time frame, that a week ago, we weren't hearing about this. This hadn't even come out. It really all started on Tuesday.
So, I want to take you through the timeline that leads up to today -- the timeline since these accusations.
Now, we're starting off on Tuesday. That's when two lawsuits were filed. This is Tuesday of last week. It was September 21st and it was that same day that the plaintiff's attorney held a news conference. Here's a little bit of what she said.
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BERNSTEIN: This is not an offense of child molestation under Georgia law, but it's absolutely pastoral church abuse of two young parishioners.
(END VIDEO CLIP) LEVS: All right. So that was a little bit of what B.J. Bernstein was saying. That's what got this whole thing going. The media started talking about it, and it really took off.
Now, take a look here. This is the next day, Wednesday -- and that's when a third plaintiff filed suit. And we had been hearing as early as Tuesday that there could be others, that there could be more lawsuits. So, Wednesday, September 22nd, the next day, after all this, that's when the third plaintiff filed suit.
It was on Thursday that we had expected to hear from Bishop Eddie Long himself. That was the day that he ended up canceling a news conference and canceling a radio appearance as well. What happened that day instead was that his attorney read a statement. Here's a bit of that.
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CRAIG GILLEN, ATTORNEY FOR BISHOP EDDIE LONG: The charges against me and New Birth are false. I have devoted my life to helping others, and these false allegations hurt me deeply.
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LEVS: It was also that same day that the only tweet that Bishop Eddie Long has sent out through all of this was sent out. It was on Thursday of last week. I have it opened on the screen behind me. This is the one tweet he has sent out about all of this. He said, "Thanks for all your prayers and support. Love you all." It was sent out at 5:30 on Thursday.
Let's finish up this timeline. I want everyone to understand all the steps that bring us up to today. On Friday, this is when Long held a conference call with a group of pastors through an organization called Father's House, which is a group that he fostered -- ministries that he has fostered himself -- and spoke with them by phone.
And then it was on that same day, the fourth plaintiff came along, and the fourth plaintiff filed a lawsuit. And that ultimately is what brings us all up to today. You have this roller coaster week of a series of accusations, series of statements, the cancelled news conferences, all of it.
And I've been looking to see if there's anything else that Bishop Eddie Long has sent out on Twitter, anything, more messages from him. The only thing that shows up on his Twitter feed is just from this morning, but it's not about the controversy. He wrote, "Please know that the power of friendship is not in the desire to have a friend but in the commitment to be a friend."
And you can see here less than a minute ago when I pulled it up. So, it was sent this morning from his Twitter feed. But that's it.
That's why today is so incredibly significant. We're waiting to hear from him what he will say. With all these things that will happen, Drew, the series of investigations, the series of lawsuits filed, the statements of attorneys on both sides -- still the public has not heard from him in any way. It's possible that will go ahead and happen today. And that is the rollercoaster that brings us up to these events today.
GRIFFIN: Very good, Josh. Thank you so much.
We're going to talk with an expert about how this church has really dealt with this crisis. That's coming up. Unfortunately, you know, claims of sexual misconduct by the clergy are not so unusual.
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GRIFFIN: A look back at some unforgettable scandals. Plus, tips on what to do if this happens at your church.
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GRIFFIN: You know, the Bishop Eddie Long church sex scandal that has dominated the news the last few days has a very familiar feel to it. Who can forget some of these scandals?
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REV. JIMMY SWAGGART, TELEVANGELIST: I have sinned against you, my Lord.
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GRIFFIN: That was the infamous 1988 confession by televangelist Jimmy Swaggart. Reports of a relationship with a prostitute. Three years later, Swaggart was stopped by police with yet another prostitute in his car.
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GRIFFIN: Who can forget the case of Reverend Jimmy Bakker -- remember him? Caught in his own sex scandal. Bakker eventually served five years in prison for mail fraud, wire fraud, conspiracy.
And four years ago, this --
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REV. TED HAGGARD, EVANGELIST: I called in to buy some meth.
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GRIFFIN: Colorado megachurch pastor, Ted Haggard, linked to a male prostitute. The preacher still maintains he never had sex with the prostitute but admits buying drugs from him. Haggard resigned as pastor of New Life and now is reportedly holding services in his Colorado Springs home.
And one more -- remember Miami's father, Alberto Cutie? Paparazzi caught the Roman Catholic priest cavorting with an attractive woman on the beach in around town. The archdiocese barred the popular priest from leading Sunday mass there. Cutie eventually left the Roman Catholic Church, got married to the woman in the pictures, and became an Episcopal priest.
What is interesting -- I want to bring in our guest right now, Bunnie Jackson-Ransom, who handles crises for preachers, ministries, churches who get in trouble. You do a lot of things.
But what's interesting about all those four and why I wanted to bring you in so early, they have lost pretty much the ministries that they had. Their crises tumbled them.
BUNNIE JACKSON-RANSOM, AUTHOR, "HOW TO MARKET YOUR MINISTRY": That's true. But they have recouped. Most of them have.
GRIFFIN: Somewhat, to some extent.
I want to ask you about Bishop Long and the handling of this so far. It is so fresh. We were expecting to hear from him on Thursday. All we heard was a statement read from his attorney and a tweet. Is that the way to handle allegations of such dramatic fashion?
JACKSON-RANSOM: I don't think so. I would say absolutely not. However, I'm a public relations consultant, and one of the things that I recognize, totally, is that legal counsel and public relations counsel normally do not agree on how to handle crises that are media crisis. There are different kinds of crises. You can have an internal crisis in your church or in your business.
But when it gets to the media and someone talks about a lawsuit, immediately, lawyers take over, and there goes the divide. And do I listen to my P.R. counsel, or do I listen to my legal counsel? And, usually, the legal counsel wins out.
But I think there's the public opinion court, the court of public opinion, rather, if I can call it that, that you have to weigh into, especially if you are a pastor, if you're a minister. So, I think handling crisis with churches is much different, much more personal than your normal media crisis.
GRIFFIN: Well, the one thing that we didn't hear -- I mean, from a public -- from the public opinion jury, right?
JACKSON-RANSOM: Yes.
GRIFFIN: What the parishioner, I'm sure, wanted to hear, what I wanted to hear, was: it is not true.
JACKSON-RANSOM: That's what we want. We wanted to hear that.
GRIFFIN: We want to hear it from him.
JACKSON-RANSOM: Yes, we did.
GRIFFIN: We want him to come out and say, "Ladies and gentlemen, this is absolutely, 100 percent false. I'm going to go and fight this in court. You recognize that this is a legal suit, so I must now have to follow the advice of my attorneys." But we did not hear that.
JACKSON-RANSOM: We want to hear something. And that's why -- that's why I think they handled it all wrong. They waited to long to speak up, immediately if not sooner. Because you get a call, somebody at the church got a call.
So, you -- if you had a crisis team, if you had had a crisis plan -- and I would think that New Birth is certainly large enough and sophisticated enough to have had a crisis plan. So, when you get the call that says something is about to happen, you pull that team together, but you immediately speak up.
My advice would have been for the spokesperson, or the P.R. person, to have said something -- that something could have sounded something like these allegations -- these allegations, let's wait a minute until we know that they are true or not true. But in the meantime, let's look at what New Birth and Pastor Long have been doing in the neighborhood. They have done this, and they have done that. In other words, give the public some information that will allow them to have another opinion.
The only thing that we, the public, have been privy to is what the media has been giving us, and we know that perception is assumed to be truth, and we know that the media forms perception.
GRIFFIN: What is also interesting -- and you, as an expert in this, the church apparently -- and certainly Eddie Long apparently -- knew about this months ago. If there were some negotiations --
JACKSON-RANSOM: That's why they got the call. They knew the call was coming. Yes, right.
GRIFFIN: Right. So, there was, apparently, no plan, based on your observations, for how scatter brained this thing has been handled so far. Am I making that assumption correct?
JACKSON-RANSOM: You are.
GRIFFIN: You're not seeing any real plan put in place, which is stunning for a ministry of this size and a guy who is, quite frankly, this media savvy.
JACKSON-RANSOM: Well, we thought. But what has happened is, once again, I think the lawyer, who is assumed to be bigger and brighter than the P.R. consultant, has prevailed.
I cannot believe that New Birth didn't have a pr plan. I happen to know the P.R. person who works at the church. You know, I know he's a journalist, I don't think he's trained as a P.R. consultant or maybe a marketing consultant -- but my training takes me back to marketing, to the school of marketing, and why you say what you say and when you say it to whom you're saying it to. So, when you recognize that your story -- that this crisis story is going to hit the media and it's going to hit CNN that's going to take it national, and you don't say anything, it's like saying, "no comment."
GRIFFIN: Yes.
JACKSON-RANSOM: And we know what no comment perceives. Perception of no comment is: I'm guilty.
GRIFFIN: You're going to stick around and watch this with us?
JACKSON-RANSOM: I'm going to stick around and watch it, and someone's going to give me a tour, and I'm going to be here.
GRIFFIN: Well, make yourself comfortable. Glad to have you.
JACKSON-RANSOM: Thank you. Thank you for having me.
GRIFFIN: And we -- she is -- we should say Ms. Jackson-Ransom is the author of "Getting the Word Out: How to Market Your Ministry."
Bunnie Jackson-Ransom, you'll be joining us as we watch through this next half hour or so as Bishop Long addresses his congregation. A statement from the bishop says he will do that privately at the 8:00 service and then hold a public news conference. We'll monitor what he has to say, bring it to you, of course, when it happens.
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GRIFFIN: I want to check our top stories now, coming on at 26 after the hour.
The Pentagon bought and destroyed almost 10,000 copies of an Army officer's memoir. It says information in "Operation Dark Heart," that book there, could damage national security. The book deals with Lieutenant Colonel Anthony Shaffer's time in Afghanistan leading a Black Ops team. The publisher printed a second version approved by the Pentagon, but eBay's offering an unedited first edition for 2 grand. Shaffer says the digital age makes it impossible to suppress information.
Now to Chile -- a new step forward in the rescue operation for those trapped miners. A capsule that rescuers hope will ferry the men to the surface one by one has arrived at the San Jose mine. It was delivered ahead of schedule. The government is still sticking by rescue date sometime early November. An accident trapped those miners back in early August.
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GRIFFIN: We hope you stay with us. This morning's first service at New Birth Missionary Baptist Church starts in just about 30 minutes. We're going to have that live along with analysis, discussion about these allegations against Bishop Eddie Long. Long also has a 10:00 a.m. news conference.
Martin Savidge is going to be covering that for us. And we'll tell you what comes out of that as well. All that just 30 minutes away.
But, first, "SANJAY GUPTA, M.D." -- it begins right now.
