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Debt Limit Showdown; 'News of the World's' Last Edition; Race Employment Gaps Continues
Aired July 10, 2011 - 06:00 ET
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SUSAN HENDRICKS, CNN ANCHOR: This is CNN SATURDAY MORNING, great to see you, it is July 10th, I'm Susan Hendricks in this morning for T.J. Holmes. A live look now at the White House where key members of Congress will meet with President Obama. They will farther reach a debt reduction deal later today.
Plus, this is it, the tabloid that brought you celebrity scandal and drama is closing its doors today. We'll take you live to London where people are getting their last edition of "News of the World."
And the president will award another medal of honor this week, this is only the second time since the Vietnam War, it has been awarded to a living recipient. We'll introduce you to him. And good morning to the service men and women watching us on the Armed Forces Network. A big thank you to you as well.
And our top story. We are just hours before tonight's debt reduction talks at the White House. Again, live pictures there this morning. The ambitious hopes for a large-scale deal have been dashed. The apparent sticking point? Taxes, here is how House Speaker John Boehner, sees it as both democrat and republican leaders prepare for tonight's showdown. Quote, and I'm reading here, "Despite good-faith efforts to find common ground, the White House will not pursue a bigger debt reductions agreement without tax hikes. "I believe," he says, "the best approach may be to focus on producing smaller measure based on the cuts identified in the Biden-led negotiations that still meets our call for spending reforms and cuts greater than the amount of the debt limit increase," unquote.
Now, the White House also talking about expectations at those talks. Here's what spokesman Dan Pfeiffer had to say about it. He's saying, "We cannot ask the middle class and seniors to bear all the burden of higher costs and budget cuts. We need a balanced approach," he says, "that asks the very wealthiest and special interests to pay their fair share as well and we believe the American people agree," end quote.
CNN congressional correspondent Kate Bolduan joins us now by phone from Washington. And Kate, just how difficult is this meeting going to be for both sides to agree here?
KATE BOLDUAN, CNN CONGRESSIONAL CORRESPONDENT (on the phone): It was always going to be difficult and everyone always agreed that it was a pivotal meeting, because it's going to be the first time that all the big players that were going to be in the room together were going to have some real details to talk over since staff from the White House and members of Congress have really been working the past few days to try to get some detail that the members could really, could really start negotiating. But what this kind of shows us is exactly what people kind of thought that this is a very tall order. It's going to be very tough negotiations and now we know that this talks over this grand deal that they've been trying to target at least something in the area of $4 trillion, that we've heard in deficit reduction have effectively broke down.
It doesn't mean that all the talks have broken down, Susan. It means that they're now going for the other deal that kind of has been talked about as well. Something in the area of a little more than $2 trillion in deficit reduction. If they would reach that deal, it's still a big deal. But that deal comes with most, that savings comes mostly in deficit cuts, not the significant changes to Medicare and Medicaid and Social Security and increased revenue in terms of tax increases that was going to be needed for the $4 trillion that we all knew and had been hearing from members on The Hill that any kind of tax increase was continuing to be a very big problem inside the Republican Party. And at the end of the day, Susan, you know, we need to find enough members to vote for a bill that's going to pass in order to get the debt ceiling raised by August 2nd. And we're coming up on that deadline.
HENDRICKS: Right. That was my question. The deadline is August 2nd, how critical is that to make it to August 2nd?
BOLDUAN: The treasury secretary has said, that is absolutely the deadline, it's very important. After that, the United States, it's going to be questionable how the United States will pay its bills. And everyone involved, even despite this kind of breakdown in talks, that came late last night and we'll see how that leads into the talks this morning, they are still meeting this evening. So, everyone is still committed to meeting and trying to reach a deal. Which also indicates they all acknowledge that this deadline is very important to meet. That raising the debt ceiling is very important.
It's more important to raise the debt ceiling than to maybe stand on their political posturing that they have been doing. But it doesn't negate the fact that there are some very big differences, a gulf as it was described by Speaker Boehner, between the parties on where they're going to agree and what they can agree to at this point. But if you can take anything good from this right now, is that they're still meeting this evening (INAUDIBLE) at the White House. So, they will be heading (INAUDIBLE) I think maybe what we're saying is a little public posturing on their position before they have to head behind closed doors.
HENDRICKS: Yes. I think they both know how crucial this is, both sides. Kate Bolduan, thanks so much. I appreciate it.
BOLDUAN: Thank you.
HENDRICKS: In Japan now, nearly four months after suffering from a massive earthquake and tsunami, a major aftershock rocked the northeastern coast about nine hours ago and yes, it is the same area that was devastated back in March. The 7.1 aftershock prompted tsunami warnings, all of which have now been canceled. The earthquake could be felt as far away as Tokyo. A geophysicist tells us this latest tremor is an aftershock from the March earthquake.
The space shuttle "Atlantis" is roughly five hours away from approach to the International Space Station. The crew getting a longstanding tradition of a musical wakeup call. Yesterday, it was a Coldplay tune. Do you want to guess what this morning's musical selection was? Here it is.
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People are dancing here in the studio, not a bad view to awaken to, either. As for the tune, if you correctly guessed "Mr. Blue Sky" by ELO, the electric light orchestra, you were right.
Prince William and his wife Catherine wrapped up their world when tour of Canada and the U.S. today. The couple is seen here arriving at a British Academy of Film and Television and Arts Events in Los Angeles. Prince William even got in on a polo match earlier in the day. There he is, wearing number four. The royal couple will spend their last day in the states in a less glamorous setting on Los Angeles's skid row, visiting an arts program for inner-city children there.
Funeral plans are set for former first lady, Betty Ford, who passed away Friday at 93. There will be two services. The first will be held on Tuesday at St. Margaret's Episcopal Church in Palm Desert, California. The second is scheduled for Thursday afternoon at Grace Episcopal Church at Grand Rapids, Michigan. Mrs. Ford will be laid to rest next to her late husband on the grounds of the Gerald R. Ford presidential museum in Grand Rapids.
How about this, the Yankees' Derek Jeter goes deep and the home town crowd goes nuts. Take a look. Jeter enters the history books in style with a home run to left field. Derek Jeter, there he is. Can you believe it? His teammates celebrated the milestone at home plate, Jeter came out of the dug-out for several curtain calls, he is the first Yankee and only the 28th player in history to make 3,000 hits. The guy who caught the ball by the way, his name is Christian Lopez. He gave it back to Jeter. He didn't have to, though. But he said he didn't think it was going any other way. He was giving a back Derek Jeter. Congrats to him.
And he got to meet Derek Jeter because he gave the ball back, Reynolds.
REYNOLDS WOLF, AMS METEOROLOGIST: See, there's an ulterior motive. And just to meet Jeter.
HENDRICKS: No. He was just being nice.
WOLF: I totally agree with you. But it's weird though that he is only Yankee ever to have 3,000 hits, he got Brod (ph), he got Garrett, he got Mickey Mantle, even DiMaggio. HENDRICKS: I know, that's shocking to me.
WOLF: It is weird. It's very strange but to do it in dramatic fashion makes it better. Hey, we got some dramatic weather for you today. As the rain continues to come down in parts of the Midwest, the heat continues to go up. We'll going to talk about some scorching temperatures in just a few moments and we're also going to take a look at the possibility of rough weather later this afternoon, that's in a few moments.
HENDRICKS: All right, Reynolds. Thanks. You know after 168 years covering Britain's scandals, tabloid "News of the World" rolled out its last issue today.
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The paper built a reputation reporting on some of the biggest scandals in the United Kingdom. But the owner Rupert Murdoch ordered the paper closed after an investigation and to allegations of phone hacking and bribing police by reporters. There it is, it says, "Thank you and Goodbye." This paper has been a bridge institution for longer than a century.
Atika Shubert is joining us now from London. The final issue Atika as I said, says "Thank you and Good-bye." I'm sure there are many people, including some employees sorry to see it go today.
ATIKA SHUBERT, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, I think a lot of people are sad to see it go. I actually have a copy of the final edition here, "Thank you and Good-bye" is the headline. And inside, they do have some incredible headlines that they covered. You know, I mean, again, this is a paper that's over a century old and they have covered everything from, you know, all kinds of things here, all kinds of scandals. But also, amazingly for example, you know, things from 100 years ago, from Charles Dickens' time. So people are very sad to see an institution like this go. Having said that, we've seen some reaction from other tabloids.
Let's take a look at this paper for example. The "Sunday Post" rediscovers a warm, entertaining newspaper, honesty, integrity and decency. Clearly a lot of other papers here are trying to mark themselves as being different from "News of the World" not doing the same practices such as phone-hacking. This is really a scandal that has shaken the nation and the very government, the Prime Minister himself is under a lot of fire for this. So, this is a scandal, even though the newspaper has closed, it will keep going on for a few months now, especially as the police investigation gets under way.
HENDRICKS: So, as I understand, I believe there's more than 200 employees without a job now. Will this paper, "News of the World" close and then reopen under another name, do you know?
SHUBERT: Well there's a lot of speculation at this point. Nobody's quite sure. The sister paper to "News of the World" is "The Sun" that's a daily tabloid here. That's also the most widely read paper here in the U.K. So, what News International has said is that those employees at "News of the World" can apply at other publications. Of course, "The Sun," seems like the most obvious place for these employees. But we really don't know at this point, what News International has planned for all those people who are working there.
HENDRICKS: Any buzz about the Murdoch's and what's next for them in terms of this? We know that Rupert Murdoch made a bold move in shutting the paper down.
SHUBERT: Well, this is the big question. And there are lots of reports that Rupert Murdoch is actually on his way here to London today. Not only to handle the "News of the World" closure, but actually the biggest prize in his media empire here is his takeover bid for British broadcaster, BSkyB. And that takeover bid is now in danger because of this known hacking scandal. The government needs to approve that takeover and they said, you know, that they want to take a look at this phone hacking scandal now before they approve it. So, that investigation itself could scuttle the deal. And that's why it's possible that Murdoch will be coming over here to handle it. Either way, however, the very fact that "News of the World" has had to be closed doesn't look good on News International and they really have to try to stem the problem where it stands and hope it doesn't spread to any of the other parts of the media empire.
HENDRICKS: All right, Atika Shubert. Thank you, I bet it will sell a lot today. Saying, "Thank you and Good-bye," I appreciate it. Thanks.
A new study just released that exposes the truth about what makes men three times happier in relationships. Guess what, it's not sex.
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HENDRICKS: Good morning, St. Louis, it will be a hot one there, I was laughing at Reynolds, he's dancing over there to "The Heat Wave" song.
WOLF: I have no idea what you're talking about. I was sitting here just, you know, adjusting my watch. Just teasing. Sorry.
HENDRICKS: How is it looking over there?
WOLF: It's looking OK.
HENDRICKS: Now, here's a question for you, be honest.
WOLF: OK.
HENDRICKS: Do you like to cuddle with your wife?
WOLF: Wow.
HENDRICKS: Hold that thought. Because you have to think about it for a while. WOLF: OK. Let me think about it and then we'll segue right into -- pick it up where we left off. It's kind of a loaded question, don't you think? I think sure, too. Why don't we go on and just kick off with the weather first? Well, yesterday morning, one of the big stories was, well, some of the rough weather we had in the upper Midwest. Well, guess what, we're back exactly where we started. See some storms develop south of Minneapolis at this point. We could see a lit bit of flash flooding going on in parts of, let's say, the freeway just near Northfield, even into Wautoma. The reason why is because we're seeing these showers drift right apart. Some of these developing over some of the same places we had rain earlier this morning. The grounds already saturated. Anything additional that's going to pop-up could give you some flooding in some spots. Just little light stuff. It's not going to be massive, it's not going to be widespread but still there is going to be that potential.
Another thing we're going to see is the possibility of storms redeveloping into the afternoon. And they're going to extend from places like say, the western great lakes, clear across parts of the central and northern Great Plains. Meanwhile, scattered storms possible across much of the four corners is the monsoon season. So, what we're talking about is going to be that wind-driven rain, that sort to be coming in from the Gulf of California, in the Pacific, that will pop-up late in the day and it's the high-base thunderstorm. That's the stuff you're seeing from the southeast from the United States. There could be a lot of lightning and with the rainfall, it could be torrential at times.
So, a lot of these dry arroyos you have in parts of New Mexico and Arizona, you pass them on the free wheel at the time, you go right off from the drive beds. Those could be filled up into the afternoon. Just be aware of that also. Very hot, very steamy for you in Texas, and also could see some thunderstorms by the afternoon in parts of the southeast. And let's talk about those temperatures, yesterday it was just ridiculous with some of the heat. Today, the ridiculousness will continue, we're expecting high of 101 in Dallas, 93 in Houston, 97 in Memphis and 95 in New Orleans.
Now, this is the time where a lot of meteorologists will try turn to your parents and tell you to take it easy. OK, I got to tell you, this one of these days you really have to take it easy. If you have the plans of going out, doing some outdoor work, I don't care if it's planting flowers, I don't care if it's just cutting the grass, you really have to take it easy out there. The heat is going to be very intensive in places like Kansas City, 98, 92. In Chicago, 94. Minneapolis, 88 and Salt Lake City, and 93 in Washington, D.C. That's a quick snapshot of your forecast. Let's pitch you right back to Susan. I'm going to come over here to, I guess, what was the question again?
HENDRICKS: This is a good day to stay in, take it easy, cuddle with your wife. So, my question was, do you like to cuddle? Or do men like it? They just don't admit it.
WOLF: OK. Just a loaded question when I answer this again. OK, do I like to cuddle? Well it sure beats the hell out of a high five. That's just one thing. Also, it depends on the setting. If you happen to be at the beach at night, that's great. At a tractor pull, not so much. So, really it is. Where you happen to be is a major player on whether...
HENDRICKS: A Nascar race? Not so much.
WOLF: If it's near turn four at Talladega, it's a possibility.
HENDRICKS: See. This is a loaded question.
WOLF: It really is.
HENDRICKS: And here's why I ask.
WOLF: Bring it on.
HENDRICKS: I have a point. Men are three times happier, Reynolds in their relationships when there's a lot of kissing and cuddling going on. Researchers talked to about 1,000 couples, middle aged, older, all of them in long-term relationships. Another interesting find, the longer women are in relationships, the more sexually satisfied they become. So basically the conclusion, I want to give you this story and I got it. Men like to cuddle.
WOLF: I believe it. I mean, I do, I have to agree. But the high five things doesn't just work, does it?
HENDRICKS: No.
WOLF: I mean, you come home from a long business trip, you walk in the door, you see her later, you greet your lady with hey, baby.
HENDRICKS: And then there's the man-hug with the double tap on the back, right?
WOLF: The man hug. The man hug is a whole different rail. Yes. That's one of this real -- kind of things we got to get in to.
HENDRICKS: Great talking to you this early in the morning, Reynolds.
WOLF: Back at you.
HENDRICKS: All right. There's been another close encounter with a bear at Yellowstone National Park. The one just days after a fatal bear attack here. We will hear from the hiker who had the close call.
Also, race continues to play a part in the nation's unemployment picture. We will detail the African-American jobless numbers for you, next.
But first, a look at the states with the highest unemployment rates last month. Nevada has the highest rate at 12.1. Not far behind, it's California with 11.7, after the great, the top five states with the lowest unemployment. Stay close.
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HENDRICKS: Welcome back. Before the break, we showed you the states with the highest unemployment in June, the numbers. Now, here are the states with the lowest jobless numbers. The five states on your screen all have unemployment rates of less than five percent. North Dakota has the lowest at 3.2 percent.
You know, gender and race continue to influence jobs numbers in the U.S. According to Pew Research Center study, between 2009 and 2011, men gained 805,000 jobs, while women lost 281,000. The outlook is even more bleak for African-Americans. Take a look at this, the overall unemployment rate is 9.2 percent. But for African-Americans, it is 16.2. Elise Labott has more.
ELISE LABOTT CNN FOREIGN AFFAIRS CORRESPONDENT: Susan, when you look at the latest job numbers, African-Americans have been particularly hard hit. But this is a problem that didn't begin with the recession.
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(voice-over) The job market has not been friendly to Mark Summers. Summers lost his job three months ago and has come to this D.C. career center for help.
MARK SUMMERS, UNEMPLOYED: Apparently one place is looking at me, waiting for a contract to come down from the government.
LABOTT: It's a similar story from African-Americans across the country. The latest jobs report found the unemployment rate for African-Americans is just over 16 percent. Double that of white Americans.
WILMER LEON, HOWARD UNIVERSITY: In 1963 or '64, the unemployment rate was four percent. And the unemployment rate for African- Americans was eight percent.
LABOTT (on camera): It's always been that way?
LEON: Give or take, yes.
LABOTT (voice-over): Howard University's Wilmer Leon says that's because many African-Americans lack access to education and training which could help them get a job. And he says, racism is often at play, despite laws against discrimination.
LEON: Unless America makes the significant investment in equality, then African-Americans and other people of color, in particularly now Hispanics are going to find themselves in a constant struggle.
LABOTT: The congressional black caucus wants the government to do more.
REP. EMANUEL CLEAVER II (D), MISSOURI: This is an urgent appeal to the White House, to the Congress. And to the people in municipalities all around this country. That we must attack this issue of unemployment and that black unemployment.
LABOTT: Highly educated African-Americans aren't immune. Reginald Booker teaches computer classes at Maryland's Montgomery college, even with a PH.D. in chemistry, it's been years since he had a job in his field. The recession has only made it worse.
REGINALD BOOKER, D.C. RESIDENT: I've applied to a number of different places. And it's just been an uphill battle.
LABOTT (on camera): They tell you that your qualifications were impressive, but you didn't get the job. Do you think that being African-American has anything to do with it?
BOOKER: No, what I actually see is, you're African-American, no we're not going to give you a job. I look at the statistics and I see the opposite.
UNIDENTIFIED MAN: I think it's more of a socioeconomic problem. People who are low-income have a harder time to find a stable job or jobs that give them long-term financial stability.
LABOTT (voice-over): Two faces of the same problem. One they both hope their government and society will fix.
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(on camera) Now, experts say, this 16 percent figure is only the official rate. It doesn't count the thousands of African-Americans who have given up hope of finding a job and stop looking. If we include those numbers, we could actually be looking at a 25 percent rate of unemployment for African-Americans. Which is why you see some in Congress raising the alarm bells to get at the root causes -- Susan.
HENDRICKS: All right, Elise. Thank you.
You know, this shuttle "Atlantis" launch marked the end of one era in space. But a new one in space travel begins for NASA. We will show you some of the high-tech machinery the agency is now planning.
And how many shuttle missions have taken place over the last 30 years? The answer, right after this.
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HENDRICKS: Before the break, I asked you how many shuttle missions have taken place over the last 30 years. There have been, here's the answer, 134 missions covering a half-billion miles of flight. The current and last mission is the 135th. NASA's final four waking up in space this morning on the final mission of the U.S. space program. Take a listen.
(MUSIC PLAYING) HENDRICKS: That is the wake-up call. NASA said that it's looking ahead. The agency is working on spacecrafts and other high- tech machinery that are straight out of Science fiction, really. Josh Levs is joining me now with a fascinating, look at this, Josh, what are they planning?
JOSH LEVS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: This is a really cool situation in which life does imitate art. Because it really is, a lot of NASA scientists who have loved Science fiction and some cases coming up, well, how do we make that happen in real life.
HENDRICKS: They're dealing it.
LEVS: And so, you know, the message that NASA had been trying to convey is that it's not over. That the U.S. will remain the leader in space. And to back that up, they've been pointing to all sorts of things that are coming up. And I've been looking to some this weekend, one that I haven't gotten to tell you about Susan is this, take a look at this video. This is a planned mission to Jupiter. It's the Juneau spacecraft, that's taking off in just a few weeks, this is an animation from NASA. And it's a five-year trip all the way out to Jupiter.
HENDRICKS: When I first heard that. I couldn't believe that, I was thinking, are we there yet? Are we there yet?
LEVS: Longest trip anyone has ever heard.
HENDRICKS: Yes. It takes off in a few weeks and they're hoping it will arrive in mid 2016. And they're saying when they get there, it will help improve understanding of the beginning of the entire solar system. There was also a new rover that's heading out to Mars, that's a much quicker trip, only nine months, that's heading out later this year. And there's this that I got to show you, actual video of an asteroid called Vesta. And in just a few days now, a U.S. spacecraft, "The Dawn" will arrive at its orbit right there. And what so cool about this is you can see this in the night sky.
It's the only asteroid that you can see in the night sky and you can only see it this month and next. And when you're looking at it, you can know that's right when the U.S. spacecraft got there. I want to you hear from the NASA administrator who has been talking about fact that he's absolutely convinced that NASA will maintain the lead. His name is Charles Bolden. Here's something he said just the other day.
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CHARLES BOLDEN, NASA ADMINISTRATOR: So, when I hear people say or listen to the media reports that the final shuttle flight marks the end of U.S. human space flight, I have to tell you, you all must be living on another planet.
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LEVS: He said, NASA wants U.S. astronauts to travel on private space missions and they're working on new types of vehicles to bring people to space. NASA calls this right here the flagship of its next- generation space fleet. It's called a multipurpose crew vehicle based on the Orion capsule. They say, that will fit four astronauts, take them on 21 day mission. So, they're working toward that. And to assist in space, they're also creating more of these robonauts, right now, they have a torso version. One is up on the International Space Station. They want to send some of these robots eventually, up tomorrow, put legs on and wheels. So, short version here. They're saying look, we have all of these projects, it's not coming to an end. But I will tell you that even with all this, a lot of critics out there are saying, the U.S. will not be in the lead. There's no way whatever is happening now.
HENDRICKS: Yes. We're talking about the deficit and when you think about trips to Jupiter, to Mars, that that's where it will be cut.
LEVS: Right.
HENDRICKS: You know, how do we get the funding for it?
LEVS: And this is a real problem. In fact, we don't know. There are serious plans that could be cut. And the reason is this year, NASA had a $19 billion budget. That's not going to happen. And when they figure out the fiscal year 2012.
So we're going to have to see what gets cut. I will tell you a lot of people weighing in on this on Facebook and Twitter. I got my screens up there for you.
It shows you all the technology. You know, it's an interesting dilemma because you want the U.S. to be in the lead in space. But we have people who don't have enough food in this country and we have to really focus on our financial priorities.
HENDRICKS: The good news is, it's not over. When you think of the last launch, it doesn't mean it's null and void for NASA, they're still exploring.
LEVS: There's a still a budget. Some of this great stuff is going to happen, but how much in the future? We don't know.
HENDRICKS: All right, Josh, appreciate it.
This is pretty scary when you hear this. It sounds complicated, but it is much easier than you think. How to hack a cell phone? Coming up next.
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HENDRICKS: Welcome back on this SUNDAY MORNING. I'm Susan Hendricks, in today for T.J. Holmes. It is half-past the hour.
After a long history of bloody civil war, Sudan split this weekend forming the world's newest nation, South Sudan. Its capital city is Juba. Independence comes after years of fighting between the Islamic Sudanese government and the predominantly Christian South. Nima Elbagir joining us now live from Juba.
Nima, you spoke to Franklin Graham as I understand, son of Billy Graham. He attended the inauguration ceremony yesterday such a pivotal day. What role did Christianity play in all of this, in bringing independence?
NIMA ELBAGIR, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, I think Franklin Graham's presence at the independence ceremony and the seat he was given right behind President Salva Kiir was very indicative of how instrumental the evangelical movement has in helping the South make public what's been going on here for the last three decades in terms of the civil war and the conflict that they've been going through.
And in fact, the reverend, when I asked him whether he would be able to respond to Khartoum's accusations that the evangelical movement's involvement was very much a part of an anti-Islamic agenda on the buzz of the Christian right.
He told me that there was no agenda to it. He became aware of the situation in the south and knew after that through their church network. They could bring it to the attention of the people in the United States and perhaps if they were lucky, try and help form U.S. foreign policy towards Sudan. Susan --
HENDRICKS: Nima, such a big day, you were there yesterday when they were raising the flag. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton is saying independent presents a new beginning for the people of South Sudan, independence does.
She says it's an opportunity to build a nation that embodies the values and aspirations of its people. You certainly witness it, but the question is, is the violence over, do you think or will this be a long process?
ELBAGIR: The violence between the north and the south isn't over. The intertribal conflicts that we've seen flaring up in the south itself really don't look anywhere near resolution.
And actually this is one of the issues I was discussing with the Reverend Franklin Graham because his network has a huge presence along the north-south border where a lot of the new conflicts has been.
And he says that their information was that even as they were sitting, even as we were all watching that flag being raised and independence being declared, that he has information that the government of Khartoum was still bombing so many in the international community, Susan, in agreement that the obstacles are very steep for this new fledgling nation, Susan.
HENDRICKS: Nima Elbagir, joining us now from Juba. Thanks so much, appreciate your live report. We are checking the top stories now on the eve of tonight's debt limit talks slated at the White House. The divide between Democrats and Republicans becomes more apparent.
Talks broke down Saturday. The sticking point here is potential tax hikes. It threatens the previous and more ambitious plan of crafting a large-scale deficit cutting deal of a proposed $4 trillion.
In Japan, all tsunami warnings are canceled after a magnitude 7.1 earthquake shock struck of the northeast coast almost 10 hours ago. It is the same area devastated by the March earthquake. In fact, geophysicists say this latest tremor is an aftershock from the 9.0 quake.
The former director of Chicago's Burr-Oaks Cemetery has been sentenced to 12 years in prison for that scandal that he rested two years ago. You may remember that's when it was discovered that grounds keepers were double-stacking graves. Three more cemetery employees face charges in that case.
"Thank you and goodbye" that is the final headline for the United Kingdom's popular tabloid newspaper "News of the World." It was shut down after 168 years in publication after staffers were found to be hacking telephones, eavesdropping and bribing officials in order to get news scoops.
Maybe you have an idea of how your computer could be hacked, but how exactly does phone hacking work? We've got the perfect person to answer that question, tech reporter Katie Linendoll.
KATIE LINENDOLL, TECH REPORTER: Hi, I hate to shatter the illusion because when a lot of people hear phone hacking. They think these journalists were out there with overly complex technology and software systems, but actually it's incredibly easy to do a voicemail hacking.
I had the opportunity to actually speak with John Hering (ph). He's the CEO of "Look Out" and is the top mobile security app. He spent 10 years with mobile security and we've really broke down all the different ways of the "News of the World" reporters, given the timeline that we know of, actually hacked into the voicemails.
So a few ways and I want you to braise yourself because a lot of these are very low tech. This is how they did. First off, the first wave is pre-texting. Now pre-texting is just a fancy word. There's a lot of allegations from staffers coming out that they actually called up the carriers were like, forgot my PIN number, I need to get access.
And they actually did that, that's one way. Another way is to actually guess their PIN numbers. A lot of people during that time still carried the carrier's default PIN numbers. So they knew pretty quickly what the PIN number would be.
Also people still turn to sequential numbers, 7-7-7 or 1-2-3-4 or they use their birthday, which is really easy to get. But we think the best way that this happened is to actually use caller ID spoofing. Now that might sound really techie, but caller ID spoofing is actually a hack that's been around for quite a few years. It's very simple to execute.
So how it works is caller ID spoofing, I can actually make a call and have any number show up on the phone. If I were to call you and use caller ID spoofing, I could have it show up as the White House.
I could have it show up as President Obama or if I know that you don't have a password on your voice mail, which to this day, a lot of people still don't, I can actually call your phone with your number and trick it into giving the access and authentication directly to your voicemail.
HENDRICKS: Scary, but that it's that easy, right?
Well, a scary situation at Yellowstone National Park after a bear gets too close to a woman, right there. She tries to jump in the water, make a swim for it. Will the bear follow her into the water? We will show you how the story ends.
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HENDRICKS: Welcome back, and Reynolds is here, we have two horrible stories out of Yellowstone Park. Reynolds, a man was mauled to death by a bear this week.
And you've got to hear this. A woman gets the fright of her life after another bear gets too close. A common problem, I would assume at Yellowstone.
REYNOLDS WOLF, AMS METEOROLOGIST: Absolutely.
HENDRICKS: With the bears around. She, you would think you would jump in the water, you're safe. Not so much, Patrick Oppmann has more.
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PATICK OPPMANN, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Just days after a fatal bear attack here, another too close for comfort brush with the grizzly.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Does the hiker know?
OPPMANN: As the bear approaches her, hiker Erin Prophet runs out of ground to retreat to. The bear doesn't charge her, but isn't backing down, either. Erin gets ready to make a swim for it, but then kayakers paddling nearby drag her across the lake to safety before the bear also goes for a dip.
ERIN PROPHET, HIKER: When the guys in the kayak offered to pull me across I thought, that seemed like a better plan because the bear seemed like it wanted to be down there by the edge.
OPPMANN (on camera): I've got to ask you, how afraid were you?
PROPHET: I was pretty afraid.
OPPMANN (voice-over): So were her rescuers.
DAVE BEECHAM, RESCUED HIKER: When the bear was getting closer to her and she dropped her pack. Apparently, she had an apple in the pack and we thought it was a good idea to go and get her at that point.
OPPMANN: Kerry Gunther (ph), the park's bear expert takes me back across the lake to retrieve Erin's backpack and look for the bear. He keeps a can of super-powered mace, called bear spray at the ready.
(on camera): We recovered the shoes and backpack that she left behind when the bear started coming towards her and luckily we didn't see the bear.
(voice-over): Rangers say injuries from bear attacks at the park are rare about one per year and can be prevented.
(on camera): Now if we were walking down a path like this one and we were approached by a bear, what would you do?
KERRY GUNTHER, NATIONAL PARK SERVICE: If we encountered the bear, I would first try backing away. If the bear followed us, I would stand my ground. If it continued towards us, I would pull out the bear spray, pull the safety tab off and fire.
OPPMANN: Sometimes it's not just the animals that get too close.
(on camera): As you can see, Yellowstone's animals often venture into public places and that can attract crowds of tourists. The challenge for park rangers is keeping both humans and animals safe.
(voice-over): Because somehow even in thousands of miles of open wilderness, it can get a little crowded. Patrick Oppmann, CNN, at the Yellowstone National Park.
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HENDRICKS: All right, here's my question, what if you don't have the bear spray? Are you supposed to freeze?
WOLF: Hair spray. Hair spray, if you don't have bear spray, hair spray. But seriously, you know, we've been dealing with these animals for a very, very long time.
In 1805, Lewis and Clark saw the first actually documented the first contact with a bear with a grizzled appearance. A grizzly bear, they range from 350 to 600 pounds, these are massive, massive things.
Erin Prophet, the lady that was on the story, not 350 to 600 pounds, a little small and then you have this monstrous bear. What do you do in a situation like that? How do you handle that? If you see one of those, what do you do?
HENDRICKS: Well, she tried to go in the water, not a good thing.
WOLF: I mean, how many times have we seen them in the Pacific Northwest or in Alaska, just reaching into the water and pulling out fish and chomping them. The bears have the environment down pat.
HENDRICKS: Luckily the kayaker was going by, but bear spray.
WOLF: Not hair spray, but bear spray. Don't want to get those two mixed up.
HENDRICKS: Reynolds Wolf will have much more on that later on. Thanks. We're switching gears, talking about billions of dollars in gold rubies and other precious stones found lying inside vaults in a remote temple in India.
It sounds like an "Indiana Jones" movie, right? How much the haul is reportedly worth and why they decided to open the vault after all these centuries. That's next.
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HENDRICKS: A fitting song, "Born to Run" you see it year after year and maybe you keep asking yourself -- why do they do it? They do it every year. There it is, the annual running of the Bulls festival in Pamplona, Spain where people hurl themselves into the path of stampeding bulls.
It's been going on for centuries. It was made popular in the west after a mention in a Hemingway novel. About 15 people have died since the state began keeping records back in the '20s, several hundred people have been injured. Three people were wounded this weekend alone.
And Nadia Bilchik is joining me again this morning on her passport. Nadia, this next story, it really could have been scripted right out of a Spielberg movie. Tell us about it.
NADIA BILCHIK, CNN EDITORIAL PRODUCER: So Kerala State, in India, literally between $20 billion and $22 billion of treasure has been found in the vaults. Have a look at the beautiful gold artifact, coins -
HENDRICKS: Looks like you're wearing it?
BILCHIK: Imagine if this was 22-karat gold.
HENDRICKS: We'd have security guards around here.
BILCHIK: Exactly, but what's so fascinating is Indians have a fascination with gold. They import something like 600 tons of gold a year for domestic use.
So here, under this Kerala Temple, is this unbelievable treasure, billions and billions of dollars of treasure. You asked me earlier how it was found. It's a very fascinating story because there was a lawyer who was living on the temple grounds in one of the housing. And what happened was he stopped paying rent. He said I'm no longer go to pay rent because I only pay rent to the Gods or the king and the king died in the 1990s. So he then sued the state and because of his litigation, it resulted in them opening these vaults.
Several vaults, there are around six or seven vaults and uncovering these vast amounts of treasure. Now what's interesting is who gets to keep it.
HENDRICKS: Who gets to keep it?
BILCHIK: Exactly, Susan. Who gets to keep it? Is it Kerala State? Is it going to go to the people and the royal family in Kerala State or the generations or does it belong to the country as a whole?
So that's going to be the next part of the movie, isn't it? Every treasure story needs a sequel. You're seeing the guards now earlier guarding.
Because suddenly this relatively obscure temple, although beautiful and a big part of the city has now got city and state guards 24 hours, you can imagine with that amount of treasure. So because of that lawsuit, it was uncovered, because of the lawsuit it was uncovered.
HENDRICKS: A movie in the making.
BILCHIK: A movie in the making and the sequel will have to come.
HENDRICKS: All right. Nadia, thank you, appreciate that.
How about this -- a true hero picking up a live enemy grenade and tossing it away to save your fellow soldiers. Sergeant Leroy Arthur Petri lost his right hand on Tuesday. He gets one of the biggest thank you's by President Obama. We'll tell you about it right after this.
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HENDRICKS: It's 51 minutes past the hour. President Obama's new defense secretary is now at the military's biggest battle front, Afghanistan.
Panetta arrived in the Afghan capital yesterday. It's his first trip overseas in his new position as he succeeds long-time defense chief, Robert Gates.
Panetta says the U.S. is within reach of defeating al Qaeda and keeping the proposed drawdown of troops there.
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LEON PANETTA, U.S. DEFENSE SECRETARY: We have a strategy that we have put in place. We are going to have once we do the initial drawdown. In December, we'll still have 90,000 troops that will be there for a year through the end of next summer. And then beyond that, we will have 70,000 troops that will be continuing the strategy and operation through 2014. And my goal is to make sure that we can continue the effort to establish greater security in this country.
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HENDRICKS: And CNN Pentagon correspondent, Chris Lawrence has more on Panetta's trip there to Afghanistan and a look ahead to the coming week in military matters. Chris?
CHRIS LAWRENCE, CNN PENTAGON CORRESPONDENT: Well, Susan, Leon Panetta is on his first overseas trip as the new secretary of defense visiting Afghanistan this weekend.
And back here at home, change to a longstanding policy. In the past, troops who committed suicide in places like Iraq and Afghanistan, their families got all the same benefits, but they never got the condolence letter from the president of the United States.
Like troops who were killed in battle or accidents did. Well, the White House has changed that policy and will now send those condolence letters to those families. The idea being, trying to de- stigmatize some of the PTSD and mental health issues that troops are facing.
There was some push-back, because some of the military feel that by doing so, it diminishes the sacrifice of those who die in battle. But families of those suicide victims say this is long overdue.
Also we're looking ahead to Tuesday where the president will award only the second living recipient in these wars of Iraq and Afghanistan, the Medal of Honor. Sergeant First Class Leroy Arthur Petrie will receive the Medal of Honor on Tuesday.
He was in Afghanistan, about three years ago, had taken fire, taken shrapnel and with a grenade landed just a few feet away from he and some other soldiers, Sergeant Petrie picked up that grenade and tried to throw it away.
It saved his soldiers, but in the process, it detonated and immediately amputated his right hand. President Obama will award him the Medal of Honor on Tuesday. Susan --
HENDRICKS: Certainly a good definition of a hero, Chris Lawrence, thank you.
You know, the Navy's Ace Flying Squad performs aerial acrobatics before hometown crowd. We will tell you where the Blue Angels are wowing crowds this weekend. That story and others from across the country after the break.
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HENDRICKS: Taking a look at some stories making news cross- country. There it goes, thousands of packed people packed the beaches of Pensacola, yesterday, for the Blue Angels air show to take a look at this. The Navy Ace flying squad performed aerial maneuvers to a wowed crow and an even larger audience is expected for today's show. You see why.
Move over, Pamplona, Spain. New Orleans has its own version of the running of the bulls. Yesterday, the big easy roller girls and members of roller derby teams from across the country chased runners through the streets of New Orleans with whiffle ball bats. Only in New Orleans, right?
Portland, Oregon looked like a comic book come to life as people dressed as superheroes, they were there for the city's first-ever superhero pub crawl. The superheroes, sidekicks and arch enemies came from all over the world. There were prizes for the best costume.
This is CNN SUNDAY MORNING. It is July 10th. Great to see you. I'm Susan Hendricks in for T.J. Holmes.
A live look at the White House this morning where key members of Congress will meet with President Obama. They will try to reach a debt reduction deal later today.
Plus, this is it -- the headline says it all, the tabloid that brought you celebrity scandal and drama is closing its doors today. "Thank you and Goodbye" it says. We will take you live to London where people are getting their last edition of "News of the World."
We are just hours before tonight's debt reduction talks at the White House. They resumed tonight 6 P.M. Eastern. The ambitious hopes for a large scale deal have been dashed. The apparent sticking point here is money, taxes.
Here is how House Speaker John Boehner sees it as both Democrat and Republican leaders prepare for tonight's showdown. He says this, quote, "Despite good-faith efforts to find common ground, the White House will not pursue a bigger debt reduction agreement without tax hikes. I believe," he says, "the best approach may be to focus on producing a smaller measure, based on the cuts identified in the Biden-led negotiations that still meets our call for spending reforms and cuts greater than the amount of the debt limit increase," unquote.
The White House is also talking about expectations at those talks. Here's what spokesman Dan Pfeiffer had to say. He says, "We cannot ask the middle class and seniors to bear all of the burden of higher costs and the budget cuts. We need a balanced approach," he says, "that asks the very wealthiest and special interests to pay their fair share as well and we can believe that the American people agree with that," he says, end quote.
CNN congressional correspondent Kate Bolduan joins us now by the phone from Washington.
Kate, break it all down for us, the Republicans and the Democrats are on obviously different sides here. KATE BOLDUAN, CNN CONGRESSIONAL CORRESPONDENT (via telephone): They actually are, and they really have been all along. It's in this issue of taxes and tax increases, in terms of new revenue is not a new issue.
But they did have their sights set on this so-called grand deal. It was somewhere in the area of deficit savings in $4 trillion. But that was going to likely come with a very hefty $1 trillion in new revenue. A very tall order as it was going to call for new revenue, in terms of tax increases, as well as significant changes to Medicare and Social Security -- very important issue to both Democrats and Republicans.
And what we're seeing now, Susan, is basically that the talks over this grand deal have effectively broken down. Speaker Boehner is saying that the issue is over tax increases. But the White House quickly pushing back last night that this deal -- pushing back that this deal broke down because the White House wanted tax increases. They're pushing back saying that's not really the case.
What we know is that Speaker Boehner and the president did speak by phone yesterday. We know that the staff for congressional leaders and the White House have been in talks over the past few days, really trying to get down to the nitty-gritty. So when the negotiators cake to the table this evening, they really had some details to talk about.
And what we see now is that while their sights were set on this, you know, grand deal, Speaker Boehner does not think that they're going to be able to reach that. Not surprising probably amongst some Republicans, because I'll tell you that this idea of new revenue, in terms of tax increases, has been a big problem inside the Republican Party. We've been hearing it on the Hill, since the idea was kind of floated around.
Now, what they're talking about, if you call it the medium deal versus the grand deal, something that was agreed -- talked about in the Biden group talks that fell apart earlier. Somewhere in the area of $2 trillion in deficit savings, still significant, but it is smaller than this grand deal.
But what we're seeing is that they're kind of trying to make their positions known as they head into this very important, very pivotal meeting this evening and they're still meeting this evening. So they all are recognizing that they need to get something done. It's just where near going to get it done and how much it's going to be at this point.
HENDRICKS: Yes, I like the term -- the medium deal.
So, Speaker Boehner not too optimistic about tonight, is he?
BOLDUAN: I'll tell you, even Friday, we started getting indications from him that he seemed to be trying to lower expectations, saying there was a kind of like -- there was very large gap, a gulf in terms of the differences between where they were and where the Democrats were and the White House was. But while there are big differences, there is acknowledgement and agreement on all sides, that this is very important to meet this deadline and very important to reach a deal so they can raise the debt limit in time. So, if there's anything that they are agreeing on at this point, is that this -- that these negotiations are crucial. And that everyone needs to be at the table, because they don't want these negotiations to really break down, in totally. And we know that they are all still planning to go to the White House this evening. So the negotiations continue. But a very interesting kind of move, late last night, with Speaker Boehner coming on to make his position known going into the meeting that he doesn't think they can go for this grand deal.
HENDRICKS: Yes, they all know what's at stake. Kate Bolduan, we shall see tonight. Thanks so much. Appreciate it.
BOLDUAN: Thanks.
HENDRICKS: You can bet the ongoing debt talks will be fresh fodder on the campaign trail, especially for the Republican presidential hopeful.
CNN deputy political director Paul Steinhauser has more on the week ahead in politics -- Paul.
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PAUL STEINHAUSER, CNN DEPUTY POLITICAL DIRECTOR: Good morning, Susan.
A bunch of the presidential candidates will campaign this week in some of the crucial early voting states to the road to the White House. Among them, Herman Cain, who tomorrow opens his headquarters in Iowa. That's the state that kicks the caucus in primary calendar.
Tuesday, there's a special congressional election in the Los Angeles area, to fill the seat of former Representative Jane Harman, who stepped down earlier this year. Democrats are likely to hold on to the seat.
The spotlight is also on Wisconsin Tuesday. It was just a few months ago that protests over a controversial plan to strip public- sector workers of some of their labor rights rocked state's capital. Tuesday, voters cast ballots to recall some lawmakers who had a part in the controversy.
And we'll learn how much money President Obama's re-election campaign has brought in since it started up in early April. Sources say that could be $60 million. Friday is the deadline for all presidential campaigns to report their fundraising figures -- Susan.
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HENDRICKS: Paul, thanks.
We want to take you to Japan, where nearly four months after suffering from a massive earthquake and tsunami, a major aftershock rocked the northeastern coast. That's about 11 hours ago it happened, and, yes, it's the same exact area that was devastated back in March. The 7.1 aftershock prompted tsunami warnings, all of which have now been canceled, we're happy to report. The quake could be felt as far away as Tokyo. A geophysicist tells us this latest tremor is an aftershock from the March earthquake.
The space shuttle Atlantis is roughly four hours away from docking with the International Space Station. The crew getting the longstanding tradition of a musical wakeup phone call. Yesterday, it was Coldplay. Do you want to guess what this morning's musical selection was? Here it is.
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HENDRICKS: What a view to wake up to, right? As for the tune, that is "Mr. Blue Sky" by the Electric Light Orchestra. Did you guess it?
Prince William and his wife, Catherine, wrapped up their whirlwind tour of Canada and the U.S. today. The couple is seen here arriving at a British Academy of Film and Television Arts event in L.A. Prince William even got in a polo match earlier in the day. There he is wearing number four.
The royal couple will spend their last day in the States at a less glamorous setting, helping out on Skid Row, visiting an arts program for inner city children.
After 168 years covering Britain's scandals, tabloid "News of the World" wrote out its last issue today. Take a look.
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HENDRICKS: Thank you and good bye it says on the cover. The paper built a reputation reporting on some of the biggest scandals in the United Kingdom. But the owner, Rupert Murdoch, ordered the publication closed after investigations into allegations of phone hacking and bribing of police by reporters. The paper has been an institution really for longer than a century.
There's the final issue "Thank You & Goodbye" -- as our Atika Shubert.
A lot of people are sorry to see it go -- Atika.
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ATIKA SHUBERT, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Susan, Londoners are waking up to last final edition of "News of the World." This is the headline "Thank You & Goodbye." That's after 168 years of what this newspaper has called itself the greatest newspaper in the world.
And just to show you some of the headlines that they've covered. This is actually, a headline here on the right side, 1,635 lives lost. That's a reference to the sinking of the "Titanic." This is -- what an institution this newspaper has become, brought low now by these phone-hacking allegations and other papers have reacted to it as you can imagine.
This is "The Sunday Post," another tabloid, notice their front headline, they hold values of honesty, integrity and decency -- clearly, trying to distance themselves from those phone-hacking allegations.
In the meantime, just to show you how angry many Britons are about this scandal. This is from the "Independent" and they have a close-up photo here of Rebekah Brooks. This is the editor of the "News of the World." And the headline is, "Is This the Most Hated Woman in Britain?"
That just goes to show how angry people are that the reporters from the paper itself seem to be hacking, not just celebrities, not members of the royal family, but ordinary people, murder victims, for example. The families of servicemen have their phones apparently may have been hacked, just to get a journalistic scoop.
So, clearly, people are angry. But at the same time, they're buying this newspaper. More than 5 million copies were printed today. That's double the normal run. And at newsstands like this across the country, "News of the World" is selling out on its final edition -- Susan.
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HENDRICKS: Atika, thank you.
Funeral plans are set for former first lady, Betty Ford, who died Friday at 93. There will be two services -- the first will be Tuesday at St. Margaret's Episcopal Church in Palm Desert, California. The second is scheduled for Thursday afternoon in Grace Episcopal Church in Grand Rapids, Michigan.
Mrs. Ford will be laid to rest next to her late husband on the grounds of Gerald R. Ford Presidential Museum in Grand Rapids.
Did you see this? The Yankees' Derek Jeter going deep. And the hometown crowd goes nuts. Derek Jeter enters the history books in style, with a home run to left field. And look at his teammates, they celebrated the milestone at home plate with him. Derek Jeter came out of the dug out for several curtain calls.
Believe it or not, he's the first Yankee and the only player in history, the 28th one, to make 3,000 hits.
The guy who caught the ball is Christian Lopez. And he gave it back to Jeter. I don't know if he had a choice. Don't want to get Yankee fans mad. But he did the right thing. He gave it back to Derek Jeter.
REYNOLDS WOLF, AMS METEOROLOGIST: We're going to give awe forecast. It's going to be interesting. You know, dramatic moment for Jeter. We got some dramatic weather for you, possibly strong thunderstorms that could develop across parts of the Midwest and Central Plains that may exist for about an hour or so maybe, up to three hours this afternoon, kind of a short-term event.
However, the heat wave we've been experiencing across much of the nation is a bit more long-term. We may be dealing with that for the next couple of days. We'll show you who's going to get what, coming up in a few moments.
HENDRICKS: All right. Reynolds, thanks. See new a few.
If you have a Verizon cell phone, then you could see your monthly bill going up. Unlimited data plans -- they're going away for good. Details on what you can do, less than 10 minutes away.
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HENDRICKS: I don't know if I'm supposed to sing along or talk over it, I'll talk. It's supposed to be 92 -- good morning to you, Chicago, on this Sunday morning, bright and early.
Fourteen minutes past the hour.
And it's supposed to be very hot in other parts of the country. Let's go to Reynolds Wolf to get the latest forecast for you.
Hey, Reynolds.
WOLF: Don't be confused. Let the music lead you. If you feel like you should dance, dance. If you feel like you should sing, sing. If you feel like you want to set the whole set on fire -- by all means.
HENDRICKS: I can't keep up with that.
WOLF: We've got an able crew back here, they've got fire extinguishers everywhere. We can do whatever you like.
HENDRICKS: Thanks.
WOLF: It's only Sunday morning, folks, and we're expecting a wonderful day, weather-wise. If you don't mind the heat you're going to be a happy camper for much of Texas. We're expecting highs to go up, up, up all the way into the 100s today -- 101 in Dallas, 93 in Houston, 97 in Memphis, 92 in Chicago -- the lovely city we showed you just moments ago -- 89 (INAUDIBLE) for you in Denver, Colorado, where there was a sight of some hail yesterday. We're going to get more in just a little bit.
Seventy-four in Seattle, 71 in Los Angeles. And along parts of the Eastern Seaboard, a little mixed bag for you. Some places into the 80s, a few places a little bit warmer into the 90s. But humidity is going to be the big difference-maker.
Problem is, this heat wave we've been experiencing, not unusual, of course, during the summertime. But it is going to last quite a bit. As we fast-forward from Sunday, a lot of temperatures, your heat index, we have the temperature, you have the high humidity join together, that's going to give you 106, is what it's going to feel like in St. Louis, 101 in Nashville, 104 in Jackson.
Let's fast-forward, if we can, into Monday. And notice the heat begins to surge a little bit more to the north. Triple-digits, what it will feel like in Wichita, Des Moines, and even into St. Louis, good gosh almighty -- 110 degrees. It's just going to be just brutal there.
And then as we get into Tuesday, we're seeing it begin to break down just a little. Possibly some showers in Chicago. So, you see the big difference maker, 79 degrees, it's going to be a wonderful.
Little Rock, my heart goes out to you, 101. It's going to be summer. Nashville, unbelievable, up to Cumberland River, 106, and 105 in Montgomery, Alabama.
Let's talk a little bit about the possibility of strong storms, it does exist today, especially in the Upper Midwest and into the Northern Plains. We've got the frontal boundary. You have plenty of moisture. With the heating, it's going to makes the atmosphere very unstable. And with that, you may have some showers, perhaps even some small hail and maybe even an isolated tornado by late in the afternoon.
Scattered showers could happen also along parts of Florida into the Southeast, and scattered storms also from the four corners, into the central and northern Rockies.
But the West Coast, you've got a massive door of high pressure sitting over that. It's going to be like a lid on a boiling pot. It's going to limit your shower activity. So, enjoy the dry days. Sunscreen is going to be a necessity, Pismo Beach on the central coast.
Let's pitch it back to you, Susan.
HENDRICKS: As we know, Colorado, beautiful place. But they're getting pounded by storms, right? You have to see this.
Brought along something extra yesterday, look at this.
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HENDRICKS: Drivers along Interstate 70 ran into heavy rain, lightning and this -- hail. Colorado can't seem to get a break really. Severe storms have been battering the state for four days in a row. And I love how we put it up next to the coins.
What do you do if you're driving, not much you can do, right, Reynolds?
WOLF: Just going to slow down, at best. But what is that?
(LAUGHTER) WOLF: Goodness gracious, you have a stuffed dinosaur one side of the screen, the hail is bigger than a stuffed Tyrannosaurus Rex. It's unbelievable.
HENDRICKS: (INAUDIBLE).
WOLF: I'm hoping it was the case. But a frightening prospect nonetheless.
We're leaving you out a little bit of nugget of information for you -- we have more hail that develops in parts of Chicago than any other place in the United States. You have Florida, central Florida especially is known as lightning alley for the United States. Colorado, the number one hail-producing state.
HENDRICKS: And we've seen bigger, golf ball-sized hail.
WOLF: We have indeed. We have indeed. But you have a lot of shower and cold air. You have the strong thunderstorms that develop. Today, it could happen again. Not as likely, as it was yesterday, but there is the chance.
HENDRICKS: All right. Are you one of those people who walks and texts or --
WOLF: I cannot chew gum -- if I'm lucky, I can walk back to the weather center. I'm the most uncoordinated person.
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HENDRICKS: Well, we're talking about unlimited data today, Reynolds. And one company is getting rid of it, unlimited data, at least one of them. I'll show you if your cell phone bill is about to go up and what you can do about it, after the break.
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HENDRICKS: Verizon Wireless is joining AT&T and T-Mobile in eliminating unlimited data plan. So, if you surf the web, text, tweet, check Facebook, send pictures, all of it, your bill could be going up.
Financial analyst Clyde Anderson told me why we are seeing these changes. The reason is money.
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CLYDE ANDERSON, FINANCIAL EXPERT: We've been using so much data lately. It's becoming the trend. I mean, everyone communicates this way. Text, voice mails, e-mails -- all the things that we're doing, you know, that we're doing a lot of, a lot of data. And so, they want to capitalize on it.
And also, I think, it's an infrastructure thing. You know, they've got to pay for all these things and all these packets of information that are being transmitted. HENDRICKS: I think the biggest question to viewers at home right now, they're thinking, will this effect me or is it people who are signing up for new deals, or will it affect people at home?
ANDERSON: If you're already on a plan and you're under contract, you're going to be grandfathered in. So, that's the great news.
The other part is that if you change something you could be affected by it because new customers are going to come under this plan or they're going to have to pay for the data that they're using. So, they're going to have to decide which package works best for them. And they're going to give you several options to choose from. As you can see: $30 all of the way up to $80 for some packages.
But the thing you got to be careful is going over some of those things. You know, you talk about teenagers and people that they call power users. You know, so these are some of the people that may go over some of these plans, especially business professionals. If you use your phone for a lot of things that you're doing related to your business, you could potentially go over.
HENDRICKS: Did you see this coming for a while? Did you think, wait a minute?
ANDERSON: I wondered how long it was going to take for it to happen. I did kind of see it coming. I'm glad some of the companies, not everything -- you know, Sprint is still kind of holding out right now.
So, Sprint hasn't done it. They haven't followed suit with everyone else. Not to say they won't. But right now, they're saying they're not going to do it right now. So, we'll see.
But -- I mean, it's big business. I think we have a quote there from someone, from Sprint, just letting you know.
HENDRICKS: Yes, saying, "We're continuing to advertise our unlimited plans and feel that they offer a great value to new and existing customers. They have been very successful. We will continue to offer them to customers."
They may have a niche now because if they're not raising their prices, you know, people are obsessed with this stuff, Twitter, Facebook. They may even have to look at each other to talk to save some money.
ANDERSON: Exactly. I think you should go to the Web site. Each one has a calculator on the Web site that you can go to and look at it and see kind of how it's going to affect you personally.
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HENDRICKS: Clyde Anderson explaining that to us. So, with the unlimited plans going away, you may have to pick out a new plan. Coming up, how to choose a plan based on your lifestyle.
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HENDRICKS: Welcome back.
Just before the break, we told you that Verizon is joining AT&T and T-Mobile by canceling its unlimited data plans, which means you could see your bill going up. I talked to digital lifestyle expert, Mario Armstrong, and he gave us tips on picking out the best plan according to your lifestyle.
We start with his explanation of a gigabyte.
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MARIO ARMSTRONG, DIGITAL LIFESTYLE EXPERT: They charge by these things called the gigabyte. So, to help people understand that a little bit, you know, a gigabyte is really 1,000 megabytes. And so, this kind of mathematics is almost like a foreign language. I don't know about you, but, you know, I didn't do that great in math class. But this is how we measure data today though.
HENDRICKS: So, I guess the bottom line, the question is: what is: the best way to keep my bills low, especially if I use my smart phone a lot, if I'm texting, if I'm uploading pictures? You don't want to be charged. And parents out there of teenagers are thinking, oh, no, there goes the limited plan.
What should they do?
ARMSTRONG: Yes, no, absolutely because, you know, today our consumption on these devices is heavy on all types of things from photos to videos to streaming music and things online. So, you are absolutely right. We need to be aware of those wireless data points.
And so, there are a few things that you need to be aware of.
Number one: e-mails look like about, you know, 200 -- or 20, I'm sorry, kilobytes of e-mail. So, email very low on data.
The things that are going to charge you the heaviest on your usage are going to be things like video streaming, music streaming, things like photos. And doing a lot of those types of interactivity with your phone is really going to tax your data and usage.
HENDRICKS: So, I guess depending on what you use your phone for, it may be smart to buy the more expensive monthly plan to save some money in the long run, right?
ARMSTRONG: That's right. I mean, when you're talking about a minute of video, when you watch a minute of video on your smartphone, you're talking about -- you know, you're talking about almost two megs of actual data being placed on your phone. So, it's not going to take a lot of time before you start reaching to some of the caps depending on what kind of plan you actually have.
A lot of people still use the data -- the cellular networks to access data. And what we should be thinking about is when we can, use Wi-Fi on your phone. That way, it reduces the chances of you getting taxed for that data.
So, at all costs, whenever you can, use Wi-Fi on your phone and that will save you a lot of money.
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HENDRICKS: That was a great tip from Mario right there. But we want to explain it a little bit more. If you want to know how to calculate your cell phone bill under these new plans, you'll have to log on to your provider's Web site and click on their data plan calculator.
All right. We're doing it for you right now. You can follow it along. We've pulled up T-Mobile's calculator right here. Here's an example of how to calculate which plan is best for you.
So, for example here, take a look. If you send and receive roughly 75 emails per day, you just plug in the data, 75. If you check 20 web pages per page, send and receive approximately, eight emails per day, maybe. Just move that number that applies to your scenario, like a math equation.
Let's say you stream music and/or video for about 15 minutes per day and you love your apps and games, you may spend about 20 minutes per day on them. Already you're up to almost four gigabytes here. So, you may want to go with the higher plan, the five-gigabyte plan.
We hope we helped you out here.
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