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Casey Anthony Freed; The Murdoch Scandal
Aired July 17, 2011 - 08:00 ET
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T.J. HOLMES, CNN ANCHOR: Good Sunday morning.
Casey Anthony is a free woman. She walked out the front door of a Florida jail just hours ago, but where is she now?
Also, today, a big day for the women of the U.S. World Cup soccer team. They may be the odds on favorite to win the World Cup final today, but they are not certainly the sentimental favorites.
I'm T.J. Holmes. Thank you so much for being with us on this CNN SUNDAY MORNING.
Let's start with the story that seems to have come to some kind of an end. This is Casey Anthony is now out. Take a look at your screen. This is her leaving a Florida jail just after midnight and just after 12 days when she was found not guilty of killing her 2- year-old daughter.
There she is. She walked out the front door with her attorney, which was a surprise to many. We'll get into that in a second.
Anthony was found guilty, you'll remember, of lying to police.
Now, that got her a four--year-sentence. But you factor in time served. You factor in good behavior, and she's out.
Now, this comes three years and a day after she was first arrested in the disappearance of her daughter.
Our David Mattingly joins me now from Orlando, Florida, once again.
And, David, I just mentioned, this was a surprise to many that she actually just walked out the front door.
DAVID MATTINGLY, CNN CORRESPONDENT: That's right. There are a number of scenarios in mind, and they had several contingency plans there at the jail depending on what was going on at the time.
Remember, as she walked out, there were hundreds outside. They were very vocal. Many of them were holding signs. It was an emotional time.
And yet, they allowed her to walk straight out of the jail, out of the public entrance. She walked right outside into a waiting SUV, and from there, they went straight out on to the expressway. And it's a downtown Orlando local news helicopter followed that vehicle to a parking deck of a building where one of her defense attorneys has an office. After that, they lost sight of her.
So, she went on from there to parts unknown.
But this entire episode of her departing the jail lasted only about 30 seconds. She didn't say anything. She kept looking down. She did not make any sort of visual contact with the crowd that was there.
She did say thank you to one of the guards as she was leaving the jail. But that was it, no expression or comments, nothing.
And there were a couple journalists allowed to embed, so to speak, inside the jail, to witness her departure and get the pictures that we've been looking at this morning.
Here's what they had to say.
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TONY ZUMBADO, NBC NEWS VIDEO JOURNALIST: She walked out. And when she walked out, she had a sign of relief on her face. She walked by one of the SRT sergeants. She thanked him and continued very rapidly outside.
RED HUBER, ORLANDO SENTINEL: She didn't have any emotional. It was -- she wasn't smiling. She wasn't frowning. She didn't look like she was joyful.
MATT SEDENSKY, ASSOCIATED PRESS: Two SRT officers were behind her with green bullet proof vests and semiautomatic weapons strapped on them. It was fairly quiet until she walked out, and there was a burst of cacophonic scream.
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MATTINGLY: And as soon as that crowd outside realized what was happening, they did get very loud. It ramped out very quickly. But then that SUV that Casey Anthony got inside with her attorney, Jose Baez, got out of there pretty quickly. Police officers and their vehicles blocked the road. There were police officers on horse back blocking the crowd as well, to make sure there was no traffic, no one trying to follow them.
But just within a matter of minutes, after this was all over, the crowd dissipated. Everyone presumably going back home in the wee hours of Sunday morning -- T.J.
HOLMES: You said going back home for them. What about for her? You talked about she went downtown. Went to that parking garage, and who knows where from there.
But any indications of where she's going to go? Where she's going to live? What she's going to do? MATTINGLY: All of the affiliates here in the Orlando area were watching the airports here around Orlando. There was no actual visual confirmation of her getting on any flights leaving the area.
It's really not known anywhere where she might be. Her defense team made it clear that they felt she would be unsafe after she got out of here. There's been a lot of talk about her, of course, leaving the Orlando area, where she is such a recognizable figure and where so many of her most vocal detractors live right now.
But there has been no indication whatsoever where she might go. But the strategy appears to be, at least, for the moment, for her to stay out of the public eye. Remember, she's got a number of civil cases now working through the courts that she is involved with. So, she has a lot more to do, a lot more legal work on the table in her near future that she has to work through as she is trying to get her own life back together -- T.J.
HOLMES: All right. David Mattingly for us in Orlando. David, we appreciate you as always.
And I want our viewers to take a look at something else that's just down the road from the home of Casey Anthony's parents. This memorial was set up for Caylee. It has seen a lot of visitors this weekend. A lot of people leaving flowers, leaving stuffed animals, also signs for little Caylee.
Well, at five minutes past the hour, let me turn now to Chile, where those rescued Chilean miners. You remember those guys. Well, they have now filed a lawsuit against their own government.
You remember this story. A great story it was. They were trapped for 69 days underground after that mine cave-in last August. Well, they are asking for more than half a million dollars each in damages.
But they say this lawsuit is not about money, but about safety.
They want to pressure the government to tighten safety procedures.
Also, today, a big day for the U.S. women's soccer team. They will take on Japan in the World Cup final that's happening today, around 2:45 Eastern. Now, these women, the U.S. women, are the odds on, the betting favorite to win this game.
But no doubt, Japan the sentimental favorites around the world. They are playing for so much after their country went through so much after the tsunami and earthquake. They had had to actually practice in the daytime because they can't practice at night in Japan, and they had to deal with so many other things because of the earthquake and tsunami.
But still, the U.S., certainly in this country, everybody is cheering for them. The last time the U.S. won the title was back in 1999. We'll get more from Germany live from our Zain Verjee, coming up a little later in this hour.
But, right now, it's time to say good morning to Mr. Reynolds Wolf. Reynolds is keeping an eye on things for us and things are hot.
REYNOLDS WOLF, AMS METEOROLOGIST: Yes, indeed, they are. A perfect day to stay inside and watch the World Cup, huh? It should be perfect for that.
You know, heat is going to be the big story. In fact, we've got 16 states that have some kind of watch, warning or advisory. We're expecting the temperatures to be into the 90s, even 100s. But with the high humidity, it's going to feel like it's anywhere from 110, possibly as high as 120, for many spots around the nation.
We're going to talk about that in a manner of moments. Plus, we're going to give you a tropical update and give you an idea of what's happening in terms of thunderstorms -- a good possibility of those popping up today -- T.J.
HOLMES: All right. Buddy, see you in a second. Thanks so much.
Rupert Murdoch is in the middle of that phone-hacking scandal. He's actually practicing what he's going to say to lawmakers this week. We've got that -- and news that he's got a new celebrity P.R. guy. We go in depth.
It's seven minutes past this hour on CNN SUNDAY MORNING. Stay with me.
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HOLMES: Well, 10 minutes past the hour now.
CNN in-depth, we are looking at the scandal surrounding Rupert Murdoch and his media empire. He's scheduled to testify this week in front of lawmakers in the U.K., talking about that phone-hacking scandal.
"The News of the World" tabloid was closed down because of it.
Our Atika Shubert joins me now from London.
And, Atika, this is a big deal to be testifying in front of these lawmakers over there and you probably need to practice what you're going to say. And he's getting practice in.
ATIKA SHUBERT, CNN CORRESPONDENT: He is definitely. And this is really unprecedented that a media mogul like Rupert Murdoch is going to get a public grilling by members of the parliament. So, he has hired special help for this. One of Britain's most well-known lawyers, but also, Steven Rubenstein, who is a public relations expert in the United States, who actually helped David Letterman recover from his scandal about extramarital affairs at the workplace, and really turned that into a triumph for Letterman. So, perhaps, Murdoch is hoping for much of the same.
In the meantime, he's also trying to kind of salvage media, News International's reputation in the U.K. by putting out some of these full page advertisements, newspapers here. There's actually three of these apologies that are going out.
Yesterday, the headline was: we are sorry. Today, "It's putting right what's gone wrong" -- listing the ways in which they are trying to solve this crisis, full police cooperation and compensation for those affected.
But the real test is going to come on Tuesday when Rupert Murdoch faces lawmakers, and faces their questions. And the trick there will be trying to answer those questions without damaging the police investigation that's on going. So, he can't answer all the questions, but if he doesn't answer them to the satisfaction of lawmakers, then he looks less than transparent and that continuing distrust make it worse, T.J.
OK. Help our viewers understand how this exactly going to play out this week, this hearing, because if Americans hear about going to testify before a parliament over in London, you know, the only images Americans often have is lawmakers yelling and screaming at each other sometimes.
So, explain to our viewers actually what we should see.
SHUBERT: Well, we are going to see probably some very heated debates. It has already been very heated debates at the House of Commons when the Murdochs weren't there. So, likely, when they are actually sitting in the hot seat and getting grilled, we could see some very fierce debates breaking out.
Having said that, there is that police investigation underway, and lawmakers have been told they can't prejudice that ongoing investigation. So, we won't quite see that same grilling, but we are going to see Rebekah Brooks, the former "News of the World" editor, and senior News Corp executive James Murdoch, Rupert Murdoch's son, and the senior executive here in Britain, and, of course, Rupert Murdoch himself.
And that would be the unprecedented part. He's almost never appeared in these kinds of things, very, very rarely. So, everybody will be looking for that.
HOLMES: All right. Our Atika Shubert for us in London -- Atika, always good to see you. Thank you so much.
And to our viewers, time for us to head across the country:
And let's start in Los Angeles, shall we, where they are calling this the biggest non-event since Y2K. You have been hearing all about carmageddon for the past couple of days, weeks and even months in the L.A. area, warning people that the 405 is going to be closed this weekend, so you need to stay off the roads to prevent massive gridlock. Well, it appears that's exactly what the people of L.A. have done. Nothing to report necessarily as far as gridlock. In and around Los Angeles, people seemed to have stayed home. So, maybe this public awareness campaign was a success.
Let's turn to Minnesota now where crews -- they are working to stop fuel from spilling after a train derailment there. The westbound freight train derailed on a bridge that was washout by rain. This happened overnight.
Seventeen cars, two locomotives were derailed. The engineer and the conductor were actually injured.
Also, a California man has been arrested for threatening that woman, Senator Barbara Boxer of California. Police say that someone left death threats on her office voice mail. The suspect is Kevin Joseph O'Connell. He's of San Rafael, California. He is expected to have his first court appearance on Tuesday.
Well, progress to report in the NFL talks. We've heard this before, but it sounds like it's for real this time. Players and owners are back at the bargaining table tomorrow. We'll have more on this and other stories making headlines in sports. That's right after the break.
It's a quarter past the hour.
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HOLMES: All right. Sixteen minutes past the hour on this CNN SUNDAY MORNING.
We're keeping up with the British open right now. It's always amazing. The British Open, the best guys in the world have some of these just ridiculously high scores because of the weather over there.
But your leader right now is Darren Clarke of Northern Ireland. He has a one-stroke lead. He's at five under par, not so bad there. He will be paired with Dustin Johnson today, who's currently in second place. So, we shall see if an American could take this major.
Also, NFL players and owners are heading back to the bargaining table tomorrow. And of all indications, at least from the people who have been watching these negotiations, a final agreement may be near. They have reported some progress on a wide range of issues, and the two sides have been at odds since March.
The NFL, of course, locked out the players. Now, everybody is trying to get this lockout over with, because you have just a small window of time now to get it over with and get the players back into the camps so they can start the season and not miss any pre-season games or any regular season games. So, that's the trick to get this thing done quickly.
And, Reynolds, as I move my breakfast off of the table -- REYNOLDS WOLF, AMS METEOROLOGIST: It's a morning show. You can have your leg of lamb or whatever it was you were eating up here -- anything, by all means.
HOLMES: Yes, it looks like progress, at least, you have been watching ESPN, and all seems like a drum beat. They are getting momentum towards getting this thing over with.
WOLF: But you know what's scary when you think about these guys going back to -- hopefully, back to NFL and, of course, (INAUDIBLE), even the high school players, they have to deal with camps. They deal with the heat outside, brutal times out there.
You know, we always hear about these guys really take -- being careful out there, and we all need to do the same thing. If you happen to be in parts of the Midwest, where the temperatures are going to range into the 90s and 100s, this is one of the days you want to take it easy.
One of the places where a lot of people will go to try and cool down is try to go to the coast. Well, add along the coast, we got something to share with you. These video, or rather these images taken by a body surfer, and one of the iReporters named Shane Grace. She shot these near Newport Beach.
What an amazing thing to see. Again, that's some intense wave action you see there, and certainly kind of a spooky thing. If you're not experienced in the water, I'm telling you, you got to stay out. But these guys, again, are braving it out there.
This is an area in Newport Beach. It's called the Wedge, a popular spot for surfers, body surfers a like. Magnificent waves out there, no question about it.
Speaking of big waves, we maybe seeing something along the Florida coast, the reason why is right here. Take a look. Tropical out look shows that we've got an area -- a little disturbance, just the east of Florida, east of the Peninsula.
At this point, the National Hurricane Center is giving this area, about a 30 percent possibility of developing, further developing, maybe becoming a tropical system of some kind, maybe a depression, maybe even a tropical storm or hurricane, a named storm. So, we'll watch it for you very carefully.
But no surprise, it's the season where we see this kind of thing development occur.
Something else that we're going to be seeing developing in terms of things will be the extreme heat across parts of -- we got 16 states. We have some form of warning, watch advisory, with the heat indices that are going to range from 110 to 120, certainly brutal heat out there. And one of the reasons we're going to see that heat is because of a big ridge of pressure that's developing over the center of the U.S. The big ridge is going to allow that moisture to come in. Plenty of sunshine in a lot of places, a lot of those temperatures will pop up.
But it's also going to allow the chance of storms developing, too, perhaps even into the late afternoon hours we may have some strong storms stretch all the way from big sky country into the northern plains, even parts of the central and western Great Lakes. So, just be advised, we're tuning from Great Falls, Bismarck, maybe Minneapolis, storms may be in your future.
The heat, as we mentioned, relentless -- many some spots going up into the 90s, to 100s. As we wrap things up, to give you a more specific forecast for places like Minneapolis, take a look at this, we mentioned the heat index -- it will be anywhere from 110 to 120. Just the surface temperature from Monday all the way through Thursday, into the upper to mid-90s, with nighttime lows into the 70s and 80s.
T.J., you're up to speed. Let's pitch it right back to you.
HOLMES: Reynolds, appreciate you as always, buddy. We'll see you again here shortly.
And we'll head to the campaign trail, next. Check out the guy who wants to be your next president. That's him on the right. That's Jon Huntsman, who is taking a trip around his home state. Coming up in a few minutes, we'll check out all the political headlines.
Also, the U.S. taking on Japan today for the women's World Cup Soccer Championship. Well, if Japan beats the U.S. today, it will be a first -- the first time they've ever beaten the U.S. It might sound like some pretty big odds, but Japan has a whole lot more to play for today.
Stay with me.
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HOLMES: The U.S. is playing Japan this afternoon, happening in 2:45 Eastern Time.
We turn to Nadia Bilchik here with me for this "Morning's Passport."
And we talked about this team. They've been ranked number one in the world. They are a good team.
NADIA BILCHIK, CNN EDITORIAL PRODUCER: They are great team.
HOLMES: They are odds on team. But the sentimental favorite has to be Japan in this match.
BILCHIK: Well, look what the Japanese have been through. I mean, look at the Japanese team. They can't even practice at night because of the nuclear crisis and the energy shortage. They can't light up the fields at night so they have not been able to practice.
And Japan has also been experiencing a huge heat wave which resulted in all kinds of interesting things happening, including the wearing of cooling foam.
HOLMES: Yes, we talked about it. We have seen this.
BILCHIK: The cooling foam, very fascinating cooling foam. And we have to take a look at it and I hope we have an update to show you.
Also, people are wearing suits that have pockets under the arms and in other strategic places, where they can put cooling packs.
They say necessity is the mother of invention. But with all of this, the Japanese have not used the weather as an excuse.
The North Koreans, however when they played the U.S. at the evened of June, used the reason as, they said that a lightning strike during practice struck five of the players that had to be hospitalized. That's what they said, which is the reason they didn't win.
HOLMES: That's a legitimate excuse. Our players got hit by lightning.
BILCHIK: Exactly. But I think we should find our Reynolds Wolf, if he's around, and --Reynolds?
WOLF: Magically, I'm here.
BILCHIK: Magically.
WOLF: Hey, how's it going?
BILCHIK: Reynolds, what are the chances of five players being simultaneously hit by lightning.
WOLF: It's probably a little bit higher than a Jedi mind trick being deployed by someone else. Anyway, it can happen. Actually, back in June, in Camp Shelby, Mississippi, they had a lightning strike that actually injured 77 cadets at one time. So, I mean, it can happen.
Is it likely that it did actually happen? We'll never know.
HOLMES: How does that happen? The lightning hits the ground or hits something that they are all standing on?
WOLF: Absolutely. Just one bolt -- you know, one --
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BILCHIK: But it gets better than this. I have to tell you this part --
WOLF: Bring it on.
BILCHIK: -- is that the North Korean team has been accused of taking steroids, and they say that it was the Chinese medicine that they had to use, the gland of a deer that they had to use because of the lightning strike.
WOLF: You know, I have had any side affects from deer glands. I mean, we all have. But to actually cause lightning strikes to take out five people, I don't know.
BILCHIK: OK. Interesting.
And then, this is the team also, in June of last year, the men's World Cup soccer team, apparently, the coach had an invisible phone where he could speak to Kim Jong-Il.
HOLMES: OK, stop.
BILCHIK: And this was the phone that Kim Jong-Il has invented, the power of Kim Jong-Il.
HOLMES: Nadia, I stayed with you on the lightning strike and the Chinese medicine -- you just lost me on the invisible phone.
BILCHIK: No, this is. The coach said, "I am speaking to the leader, Kim Jong-Il, and he has invented this invisible phone."
But, anyway, the point was: the force of Kim Jong-Il was not with them.
WOLF: I have to answer my invisible phone and it's a collect -- I am not accepting the charges, so I'm just going to go.
HOLMES: Reynolds, Nadia, appreciate you, guys.
BILCHIK: And exactly, it will be interesting to see who the force will be with in the game between Japan and the U.S.
HOLMES: Today, at 2:45 Eastern Time.
Yes, and on that topic, stick around. We'll be live in Frankfurt, Germany, in just a few minutes, for more on the women's World Cup. Our Zain Verjee is there with the team.
Also, as we get close to the bottom of the hour, the Casey Anthony case started with a search for a missing little girl. The story of Caylee Anthony's disappearance and death is one of a long stream of media stories that have focused on missing girls -- missing white girls. I am talking with a woman who is trying to raise awareness of the large number of minority children who go missing and get no media coverage. That is next.
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HOLMES: The Casey Anthony case started with a story of a missing little girl. 2008, thousands of people joined in the search for missing 2-year-old Caylee Anthony. The media got hold of the story and didn't let go. People just couldn't seem to get enough of this drama surrounding the discovery of Caylee's body and then the trial of her mother, Casey. But there are other cases that got tons of attention on TV and the newspapers. Do you remember some of these stories: Polly Klaas, Elizabeth Smart and Natalee Holloway well, what did some of this had in common? Well, the victims, a lot of people will tell you, are all attractive. They are all from white middle class families.
Critics have given the trend a name. They call it "Missing White Woman Syndrome". And according to the group, Peas in their Pod, a child is reported missing every 40 seconds in the United States, and 42 percent of those children are African-American.
But how about this? Can you name one of them? Gaetane Borders is President of Peas in their Pods. She joins me now.
You all focus on minority children. Are we in a day and age where an organization like yours is necessary, and is that a shame?
GAETANE BORDERS, PRESIDENT, PEAS IN THEIR PODS: Sadly it is necessary and it is a shame, but it is definitely necessary. As you said every 40 seconds a child is reported missing, 42 percent are African-American. But this morning as people wake up I promise you they know more about Casey Anthony, they know more about Lindsay Lohan and J Lo's marital status than they do any of the names or the faces of the kids that you are scrolling.
HOLMES: Ok how do you all go about it? And we are - we're showing their names and the faces of some of the kids from your Web site. But I guess how do you go about getting the message out? I mean, as I will admit, I wasn't familiar with the organization until it was brought to me by my team. You said yourself before you joined up you weren't familiar with the organization. How do you get the message out?
BORDERS: Right and we rely on a network of people to help us get that message out. We rely on everyday people to send out e-mails letting other people know that children go missing. And we do a lot of advocacy ourselves in getting the word out.
HOLMES: Ok this is a tough question here, then why is it? Who is failing? Is it us in the media and because we pick and choose which stories and which -- which kids we want to focus on?
BORDERS: You know what? I would not blame the media solely for the fact that we do have this white woman syndrome as you called it, the White Missing Women Syndrome. I think the media puts out what they believe the public wants to see.
HOLMES: Ok.
BORDERS: And if the public isn't making you all aware that they want to see a more diverse look at the kids -- kids that are missing, then of course you're not going to put it on because you don't think anyone is going to watch. So it's going to take everybody in our communities to stand up and let you know that listen, kids like Shania Davis, Kyla Tomnes (ph) all of these kids are important, too. HOLMES: And I have something else here, there was a quote I think I read from you, that the media -- the media is one thing, but also the public, there's something out there where they just don't seem to value minority children or African-American children as much. What do you mean by that?
BORDERS: I say that to say because the community has not demonstrated an interest in it, then the media doesn't value these children. The magazines aren't going to put them on the covers because they're not going to sell, so they think. And so they're just not as valued because of that reason. Can they be valued? Absolutely.
HOLMES: All right, I've got two examples we wanted to use here. A couple of the kids we want to focus on. Two names that people probably never heard. Joshua Davis.
BORDERS: Joshua Davis.
HOLMES: Well, tell me about Josh.
BORDERS: He is a toddler missing out of Texas who went missing from his family's home. There were a number of people in the house. He is -- I mean, barely 2 years old, he can't even reach the doorknob, but somehow they are alleging that he got out and walked the streets.
He hasn't been seen since. The police say there are a number of pedophiles listed in the area. I mean, it's just a convoluted case. Where is Joshua?
HOLMES: Another here, Tyler Thomas. A name people have never heard. Now this was one once I started reading the details here sounded kind of similar to some other stories I have even covered in the press before. Well, tell me about Tyler.
BORDERS: Tyler missing out of Peru, Nebraska, a 19-year-old college student, a good student. She was out partying with her friends. We in fact spoke with her friends that she was with that night, a typical college party, you know, a little bit of drinking going on and she left home to go home by herself.
Somehow she got into a car with a 29-year-old gentleman who was attending the college as well. He has been arrested. He is saying that they had consensual sex, and then, she later said that she was going to tell everybody that she was raped by him, and she's never been seen since.
HOLMES: All right. One last thing and this was something I was talking to you about in the break and something that a police officer told me out in Oakland and it stayed with me. He said another thing about these missing minority kids cases is that minority families oftentimes are a little more skeptical of the police officers, of the media and are reluctant to step forward and demand that media attention to say I will do an interview, hey, let me get this flat out, hey, let me make these phone calls when oftentimes those middle class white families are -- are frankly more media savvy. Do you think that could be the case of this?
BORDERS: That could be the case as well. But also no, a lot of kids of color that go missing are listed as runaways.
HOLMES: Yes.
BORDERS: When they're listed as runaways, the media really won't touch them as much. So those doors don't open for them. And that's another major problem when we talk about missing kids of color. But yes there is a little bit of an ambivalence towards the police in certain communities given the history.
HOLMES: All right, Gaetane Borders, we appreciate you being here.
Again, a lot of people might be shaking their heads, and it's unfortunate that an organization like that is even necessary, but it absolutely is.
BORDERS: Thanks.
HOLMES: We thank you so much --
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BORDERS: Thank you.
HOLMES: -- for bringing this to our attention and being here with us this morning.
BORDERS: Thank you, T.J.
HOLMES: Thanks so much.
Well, we're at 35 minutes past the hour now.
We'll turn to politics where Republican presidential candidate Jon Huntsman met with some influential governors yesterday in Salt Lake City including Iowa's Perry Branstad (ph) and New Jersey's Chris Christie. The governors are there for the National Governors' Association meeting.
Yes, after the meetings, though, look at what he did. Huntsman jumped on his Harley for a quick ride. He led about 50 bikers through the streets of Salt Lake City for the campaign rally at the end of that ride.
Also Michele Bachmann said she is ready to sign the conservative pledge on the budget deficit. It's called "Cut, Cap and Balance". Most of the other Republican presidential candidates have signed on. Bachmann actually thought the pledge didn't go far enough. The Minnesota congresswoman is supposed to sign it tomorrow during a campaign stop in South Carolina.
Also, coming up, will he or won't he run for president? Candy Crowley tells us about her exclusive interview with former New York City Mayor, Rudy Giuliani.
Stay with us.
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HOLMES: All right. 40 minutes past the hour, now we are getting some more information in and another break in this -- this phone- hacking scandal out of the U.K.
I want to turn to our Atika Shubert who is keeping an eye on this story for us in London. And Atika, an arrest being made now and this may be the biggest, most relevant arrest in this whole scandal so far.
ATIKA SHUBERT, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Yes, that's correct. We have confirmed that Rebekah Brooks, the former "News of the World" editor has been arrested and we understand is still being questioned at this moment.
What police have told us is that a 43-year-old woman was arrested earlier for questioning in regards to both the phone hacking allegations and allegations of payments to police officers. Now what we understand from Rebekah Brooks' public relations officer is that she was arrested earlier.
So this would be the most high profile arrest in the phone hacking allegations, and it could complicate matters for the hearing on Tuesday where she is supposed to appear before lawmakers and answer their questions, but from an investigation perspective, this could make it a lot more complicated, because it may limit what the lawmakers can actually question her about.
HOLMES: You're absolutely right. You're -- she wanted to go there, and possibly answer questions and be forthcoming about what she knew. But if she is someone who is facing possible charges now, then any attorney is going to tell her to stay as tight-lipped as possible with this ongoing investigation.
And remind us as well, Atika, there have been a number of arrests in the case so far. And it's hard quite frankly to keep up with all the people who have been arrested.
But again, to our viewers this woman is the head of News International. She has resigned, but News International is that parent company that did run "News of the World", the tabloid where all the scandals started.
So again, Atika, remind us, and I don't know if you have the list there in front of you, there have been a number of arrests in this case so far.
SHUBERT: There have been a number of arrests. And of course, it started with the arrest of the private investigator who was hired by "News of the World" to carry out these phone hackings. And originally the police said it was limited to just one private investigator and one reporter, but as we know now, in fact those allegations of hacking spread much wider and what we then saw was the arrests of several other "News of the World" executives, including the onetime editor, Andy Coulson, his deputy, Neil Wallis and now Rebekah Brooks who was also a former editor of "News of the World" and the senior executive at News International.
What's important to note is that Rebekah Brooks was actually the editor of "News of the World" when apparently an investigator hired by "News of the World" hacked into the phone messages of Millie Dowler. That is the young girl who was murdered here in the U.K. And they apparently hack into the her phone messages and allegedly deleted some of the voice mail messages in there to make way for other people to leave messages, and that gave her parents false hope that she may have actually been alive.
And this is the scandal that -- that really angered the British public and all of this happened under Rebekah Brooks' watch, allegedly. And so this is why her arrest really will strike a chord with people here in Britain and they are hoping to get to the bottom of this and find out just how far this phone hacking went.
HOLMES: All right, our Atika Shubert, we appreciate you much for jumping back in front of the camera for us with the breaking details of Rebekah Brooks now apparently under arrest. The former head of News International would be one of the biggest -- if not the biggest arrest so far in this whole phone-hacking scandal.
Well, we're about 17 minutes to the top of the hour. Let me say good morning to our Candy Crowley. She's coming your way in just a few minutes with her show, "STATE OF THE UNION."
Candy good to see you again, I was off last weekend and I miss you when I don't see you. So it's good to -- to see you again.
You have a big interview today. It's amazing that Rudy Giuliani's name still shows up when people are polled about who you would like to vote for president. And he's not in the race.
CANDY CROWLEY, CNN HOST, "STATE OF THE UNION": Well yes, but he's stoking it a little, I will say that. He does come in a fairly powerful third in New Hampshire which as you know is quite important and it's easy for him to go from New York to New Hampshire. He's been there and he's doing all this -- it's sort of this faux campaign, which a lot of them do before they get in, but it's getting a little late here. And there's no real sign that he's building up a staff, or setting those things in place to raise money.
But nonetheless, he is leaving -- he said I'm going to decide by September, and so he is clearly, you know, shaking hands and doing all those things you are supposed to do, except for actually getting into the race.
Now, I think you'll be interested in this interview, because there is an answer that he gives in there, and I won't -- I won't blow what it is -- but --
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HOLMES: Oh come on, Candy let me have it.
CROWLEY: Let me -- let me just say that his response to the idea of gay marriage in New York, which as you know is now legal by the legislature, he has said that he thinks that marriage should be between man and a woman. His answer to that makes me believe he's not running.
HOLMES: Ok.
CROWLEY: I'll tell you that.
HOLMES: That's a very good tease, very good tease there.
CROWLEY: Ok.
HOLMES: All right, one of the other things of course, you can't do your show this morning without talking about the debt ceiling. So how are you going to ask this morning?
CROWLEY: What can I tell you? Jacob Lou, who is the director of the Office of Management and Budget will join us from the White House. We're also going to talk with Senator Lindsey Graham, who's one of the Republicans who has said maybe we ought to start looking at it, some of these loopholes. Maybe there's something on the revenue side that we could do to kind of break this impasse.
So we'll see where they are. As we know, they've been meeting all weekend long. What we're getting from the Hill is not much has happened, other than they are talking, which I guess is better than nothing. But time is a-wasting here and they don't have it yet.
HOLMES: All right. Well, have you seen this photo? Before we let you go. This photo here -- this is some new video we're seeing from Friday's meeting at the White House between the President and Ruby Bridges? Have you seen this thing?
CROWLEY: I have not.
HOLMES: A lot of people -- where is that view? Ok, here we go. Look at that. She was immortalized by Norman Rockwell, in the painting called, "The Problem We All Live With". Yes, you remember this, Candy.
CROWLEY: Yes. Yes, I know. I remember the photo, yes.
HOLMES: Yes. It was 1960 and her home is out of New Orleans. The then 6-year-old Bridges was the first African-American student to attend am all-white elementary school. And it's (INAUDIBLE) on loan to the White House from the Norman Rockwell Museum. But he got to meet her. Isn't that something to see those two standing there together?
CROWLEY: It is. It's obviously a very appropriate White House to have it in. I'm not sure I knew -- maybe I did at one point and since forgotten that, you know, what it was memorializing. But what a great -- I mean that really is an iconic picture that you look at and like, "Oh, I know that picture."
HOLMES: You know the picture -- a lot of people don't know the story but there she is after all these years. Just wanted to share that and have that moment with you.
Candy, good to have you back.
CROWLEY: Thank you. Good to see you.
HOLMES: Good to see you. And to our viewers --
CROWLEY: I was here. You were gone. Just want to say.
HOLMES: Ok. You didn't have to throw that out there.
Ok. Fair enough, Candy. But I am here with you this weekend, and Candy will be with you viewers here in about 13 minutes and 27 seconds, 9:00 a.m. Eastern time, 6:00 a.m. Pacific, right here for "STATE OF THE UNION".
Coming up, we will head live to Germany. Our own Zain Verjee is hanging out with the U.S.A. women's soccer team right before their big match today.
Also, you want to get a date with a big star? This is all you have to do. Join the Armed Services, and then ask for a date on YouTube. That's all you have to do, folks. We'll explain. Justin Timberlake now is heading to the ball.
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HOLMES: All right. Ten minutes to the top of the hour. Let's go live now to Germany. That's where the big showdown is happening today, the U.S. versus Japan. Our Zain Verjee has been hanging out with the U.S. team for the past couple of days. The weather has changed up a bit from when we saw you yesterday.
But Zain, we are the favorites maybe the U.S.; but not the sentimental favorites in this game.
ZAIN VERJEE, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: That's exactly right. The U.S. is a strong team (INAUDIBLE), feeling very confident, T.J. They know how to hustle. They're really talented, and they have the speed and strength to deliver.
You know, the U.S. hasn't won a World Cup final since 1999 -- since last century. In just a few hours, they could do it.
What are they doing today? They are relaxing. They're with their friends, their families. They're playing on their iPads and computers and going for long walks just to clear their minds.
The U.S. Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton, is in Greece talking about the debt crisis there, but you know what, the World Cup final is also on her mind. She's going to be watching.
T.J. listen to what she just said.
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HILLARY CLINTON, U.S. SECRETARY OF STATE: I am going to be watching. I am so excited. I am so proud of the U.S. women, and, you know, Dr. Biden is there and my daughter was asked to accompany her, and so we have a really good cheering section. And I just have got the highest hope this great team which has shown such great resilience will be coming back and winning for the U.S.
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VERJEE: Over the years, the U.S. team has played Japan 25 times, T.J., and never lost. So they are hoping that they can keep that winning streak. The fans are here; they're excited. I ran into one. Listen.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I think it's going to be a hard game. I think it's going to be a fair game. And I am hoping that the U.S. is going to take the cup home. We have (INAUDIBLE), we have Hope Solo, which is a big star for us.
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VERJEE: The Japanese are very skilled, T.J. That's what people are saying. They know how to control that ball and keep possession and keep passing it to one another. The U.S. has the speed and the strength. We will see who the best team is in just a few hours.
HOLMES: Looking forward to it. Zain, we appreciate you being there and appreciate being able to talk to you this weekend. I know the weather switched up a little bit, but I'm sure you will be fine.
Zain Verjee for us there in Frankfurt, Germany. Thank you so much.
We're about 8 minutes to the top of the hour now.
"Friends with Benefits", that's a movie coming out here and it co-stars Justin Timberlake and Mila Kunis. They have both agreed now to serve their country. How? By going on dates with Marines and YouTube played matchmaker. Check this out.
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SGT. SCOTT MOORE, U.S. MARINE CORPS: Hey, Mila. This is Sgt. Moore. But you can call me Scott. I just want to take a moment out of my day to invite you to the Marine Corps Ball on November 18th in Greenville, North Carolina with yours truly. So take a second and think about it and get back to me. All right. Bye, now.
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HOLMES: Love that guy. He was just cool about it with the shades and the turn. You just have to be confident like that, don't you? That's Sergeant Scott Moore.
Now, Justin Timberlake noticed this, and then he encouraged his co-star to go on the date.
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JUSTIN TIMBERLAKE, SINGER: This needs to go down. This needs to happen. Do it for your country.
MILA KUNIS, ACTRESS: I will do it for you.
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HOLMES: But this is the thing. This is what happens next. He calls out his co-star, Kunis. Well, then another Marine says ok, Timberlake, we'll call you on it.
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CPL. KELSEY DESANTIS, U.S. MARINE CORPS: So Justin, you want to call out my girl Mila, well, I'm going to call you out and ask you to come to the Marine Corps Ball with me on November 12th in Washington, D.C. And if you can't go, all I have to say is cry me a river.
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HOLMES: Yes. Cry me a river and I will kick your butt. She's a black belt actually folks. She does some cage fighting too. So he has to go. So it looks like maybe we've got a double date in the works.
This is Justin Timberlake's response.
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TIMBERLAKE: I don't get asked out, ever. So I was very flattered by that. I hear that she's like trained in martial arts, so I am hoping that we can tussle at some point, and that last part is a joke.
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HOLMES: Yes, that's a joke, because she's a black belt in karate. She does do -- let me get this right, I don't want to put words in her mouth -- she does cage fighting. Her name is Corporal Kelsey Desantis, and she does cage fights. Their date now is set for November 12th in Washington, and then the other date with Mila Kunis, she's attending the Marine Corps Ball in North Carolina. That is on November 18th.
NASA got a little celebrating going on this morning.
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HOLMES: Yesterday, it was Beyonce waking up the crew. They went old school for today's wake-up call. A quick break, I'm right back.
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HOLMES: "STATE OF THE UNION" with Candy Crowley coming your way in just a couple of minutes, but first news from outer space. Day 10 of the space shuttle mission and it begins with a celebration.
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HOLMES: That's how my alarm clock goes off every morning too. That's Kool and the Gang's with this morning's wake up song. Soon there's something else for the crew to celebrate. Mission Control says the shuttle's main computer that had some sort of glitch Thursday is now back up and working again.
Reynolds, that sounds pretty important to have your main computer up and working.
REYNOLDS WOLF, AMS METEOROLOGIST: You're just, you know, hundreds and hundreds of mile -- only 17,500 miles up in space; a little bit of an issue might be a big issue, you know.
What is with the music? I mean seriously. They're listening -- Beyonce --
HOLMES: Beyonce yesterday.
WOLF: Kind of anti-climactic, isn't it? Well, no --
HOLMES: Come on.
WOLF: That's Kool and the Gang, don't get me wrong, but you know where I am going with that.
HOLMES: I know where you are going.
WOLF: Of course, he does.
All right. Well, you're going to know where I'm going with this. We're talking about the possibility of really some heat today. Heat's going to be there. And something else is also going will be with you today in terms of your weather nationally. It's going to be the chance of severe storms.
We've already had some strong storms in parts of the Ohio Valley, and with it some of those have been in the east of Lexington, into the afternoon hours and you may be dealing with some across the Northern Plains and into the Central Great Lakes, also Western Great Lakes.
I would say the best chance of strong storms in this region would be between I'd say 3:00 in the afternoon and 6:00 this evening. T.J. back to you.
HOLMES: Reynolds, appreciate you as always. And on behalf of Reynolds Wolf and me, T.J. Holmes, we would like to say thank you for spending part of your weekend here with us on CNN SATURDAY and SUNDAY MORNING.
Right now, we're going to hand this thing over to "STATE OF THE UNION" and Candy Crowley.
