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Earthquakes Rock Oklahoma; Cain Upset with Reporters; Greece's Prime Minister to Resign
Aired November 06, 2011 - 08:00 ET
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T.J. HOLMES, CNN ANCHOR: Good Sunday morning to you all. I'm T.J. Holmes.
We have news breaking right now out of Greece. The Greek prime minister says he will step down once a new government is formed. His announcement comes amid a Greek debt crisis that threatens to bring down economies all over the world and affect us all -- including, yes, right here in the U.S. We are live in Athens in a moment.
Also this morning, a second earthquake in 24 hours in Oklahoma. This one, the largest on record for that state.
Plus, Herman Cain clashes with reporters -- again.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
REPORTER: Mr. Cain, the attorney for one of the women who filed the sexual harassment complaint --
HERMAN CAIN (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Don't even go there.
REPORTER: Can I ask my question?
CAIN: No, because --
REPORTER: Can I ask a question?
CAIN: Where's my chief of staff? Please send him the journalistic code of ethics.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
HOLMES: Cain says he is not talking about sexual harassment claims against him. Reporters, though, have not stopped asking.
Plus, they say they'd rather die than have someone cut off their beards. We take you to an Amish community where thieves are trying to steal the hair right off the faces of Amish men.
We're at the top of the hour. It's 8:00 a.m. here in Atlanta, 7:00 a.m. in Fayetteville in Arkansas, 5:0 a.m. in Glendale, Arizona -- wherever you may be, we are glad you are right here.
And we need to start with Oklahoma's unsettling Saturday. It started with a moderate strength earthquake that ended last night with the strongest recorded quake in state history hitting almost the exact same place. We're talking about Lincoln County here.
Video you are seeing of Highway 62 broke up a bit in a couple of places. USGS says this was a 5.6 magnitude quake. Again, that's the strongest on record. We are getting reports of damaged homes and municipal buildings.
Luckily, though, we are not getting widespread reports of injuries. We have at least one report of an injury there. KOCO reporter Michael Seiden is live for us in Sparks.
Give us an idea of what was this like last night?
MICHAEL SEIDEN, KOCO-TV REPORTER: Well, T.J., this is the epicenter. Just take a look here. You can see broken glass al over the kitchen floor of this two-bedroom home. I mean, we're finding stuff like tea -- I mean, it's essentially like somebody just dumped out the kitchen cabinets.
Now, what I really want to show you though as we move through this house, you see all that broken glass all over the kitchen. Coming in to the living room, I want you to take a look at this. You see this brick that's come in through the top of the roof? That is actually the chimney.
That earthquake shook this house so hard the chimney collapsed, came through the roof. If you get a better look out here, you can see where a piece of that chimney actually collapsed on an outside bench.
Now, fortunately, the homeowner and his wife were not hurt. They were just getting ready for bed and that's when they described their house just rumbling, picture falling off the walls.
The good thing is though, a lot of people out here were familiar with those tornadoes but not the earthquake. But the homeowner here tells me they do have insurance. So, those assessors, as the sun starts to rise, are going to be out here and assess the damage.
But again, the biggest fear right now is that that aftershock that we've been feeling all over the state could come and force this chimney to come crashing down to the floor.
HOLMES: All right. Michel Seiden for us there with a look inside -- thank you so much.
Let me bring in our Reynolds Wolf here now.
We talk about a 5.6. And I guess we trained ourselves to hear about massive earthquake, 7.0. We hear a 5 -- yes, it does cause serious damage.
REYNOLDS WOLF, AMS METEOROLOGIST: It really depends on where you happen to be. Everything is relative. You have a 5.6 in a place like San Francisco, or even Tokyo, places are used to it, it's not that big of a big deal. But when you structures in places like Oklahoma, where they aren't designed to withstand that kind seismic activity -- they are going to have some aftershocks.
And, you know, you brought up a really good point, that if they have an aftershock and I'm telling you, T.J., they are going you may have some, you might have some of these buildings that are in kind of questionable shape right now, like that one -- maybe enough to cause some of those buildings to collapse completely. So, people have to be very, very careful.
Not unusual to see this happen in the United States. We have them happen more often on the West Coast. But in the situation of Oklahoma, we've got something called the Nemaha fault. It actually runs to the state. It ranges anywhere from 15 miles wide to only 4 miles wide. And along that activity, along that fault line you can have incidents like this.
HOLMES: Can be pretty strong, the aftershocks?
WOLF: Can be. I mean, anything is going to be less. Say, if we had a 5.6, if you have one that is 5.5, someone may say that's a strong earthquake. Well, that's actually an aftershock because it is smaller and lower in intensity than the shock we most recently had.
HOLMES: All right. Reynolds for us, we appreciate you. We'll be checking in with Reynolds plenty throughout the morning on the weather. Thank you so much.
WOLF: You bet.
HOLMES: We're at five minutes past the hour now.
We need to tell you about a shocking -- a really disturbing story out of Pennsylvania right now. And this is focusing attention on Penn state university's football program. It involves a former assistant coach by the name of Jerry Sandusky.
You might not recognize the name or the fact, but he was an assistant for legendary head coach Joe Paterno for 30 years. Sandusky also ran an organization for less fortunate kids called Second Mile.
He is now under arrest charged with sexually abusing eight kids, all of them young boys. Prosecutors say it went on for 15 years between '94 and 2009. One local reporter explained the indictment.
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SARA GANIM, REPORTER, THE PATRIOT NEWS (via telephone): There is really like two sets of allegations here. There are a couple of kids -- there are two kids who accused Sandusky of a prolonged relationship of abuse over a couple of years and really adult-like sex acts.
And then there is this series of shower incidents involved. The indictment and the jurors started by saying -- they all come out and say this charity was a point for him to get access to kids. It says basically many of these boys were vulnerable due to their social situations and this was how he found his victims.
Almost every single one of them was a child that initially was in a Second Mile program and began hanging out with Sandusky.
But what's interesting about their cases is that, I think it is going to come out as kind of a he said/he said situation. It could -- this could end up being them versus Joe Paterno in some way, you know?
What Gary Schultz and Tim Curley say was told to them is very different than what that graduate assistant says he told Joe Paterno in 2002. And since the attorney general has come out and said that Joe did the right thing, I think, you know, he's going to be a major witness for this prosecution.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
HOLMES: The school's athletic director is one of two officials facing charges as well for allegedly lying about what they knew.
As for Sandusky, he says he is innocent. Listen now to his attorney.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
JOSEPH AMENDOLA, JERRY SANDUSKY'S ATTORNEY: Jerry's very, very depressed. He's very upset. He's very distraught about the charges, the allegations, and the knowledge that regardless of whether he is eventually proves his guilt or innocence, that people are going to think that he did this stuff.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
HOLMES: This indictment is the result of a three-year investigation. The 67-year-old Sandusky is out on bail.
Let's turn to that breaking news we're seeing out of Greece right now. The world has been waiting on Greece right now. The world has been waiting on Greece, the government, up in the air right now as they try to figure all this out -- a financial mess there hurting your 401(k) right here.
Now the man who was going to lead them through a possible new bailout is bailing out. The prime minister, George Papandreou is stepping down.
CNN's Dana Magnay is in Athens for us.
How quickly will this happen, Diana?
DIANA MAGNAY, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Hi, T.J.
Well, it is fair to say that these are George Papandreou's final hours. But there is still some political positioning that needs to take place before he will tender his resignation.
Basically what we've heard from his spokesman is that a new prime minister will be named by the end of the day. The cabinet is now meeting in an hour's time to really hammer out who the people and what the policies will be of this new national salvation government, they're call it -- basically an interim government to tide Greece over and to implement the terms of the bailout agreed by Europe last week on October 26th, so that it doesn't go bankrupt over the next few months. Then in four months' time or so there can be a further election.
We know that the Greek prime minister will not tender his resignation, make that statement until the new government is in place. But that could really be in the next few hours because tomorrow is the meeting of Eurozone finance ministers where they're going to be hammering out how to help Greece financially really just to tide it over for the next few weeks.
And Venizelos, the finance minister, for one, has said that this cabinet, this government has to be in place by Monday morning. So, it really is a matter of hours, T.J.
HOLMES: Diana, how will other countries and also, how will those markets view this news? Will they see this as getting him out of the way helps move the process further along with the bailout? Or do they see this as a government that continues to be in disarray?
MAGNAY: Well, think what has concerned the financial markets up to this point is the fact that there has been so much bickering between rival political parties at the expense of Greece's sort of ability to push forward with the bailout agreed a week ago. And so, I think that they will receive with some sort of gratitude the fact that those warring factions are prepared to form a coalition government irrespective of who leads that government.
Now, George Papandreou said on Friday after the vote of confidence -- on Saturday morning, sorry -- that it didn't have to be him who led that government. It simply had to be a government that was committed to implementing the bailout and I think that that is what markets want to hear, irrespective of whether it is him or another man who's actually got the title of prime minister, T.J.
HOLMES: Diana Magnay, did he have any other options here? Is it clear to say. And opposition leaders called on him to step aside. Is he being pushed out?
MAGNAY: Well, the opposition is basically softened its stance. Before it said we want elections immediately. Papandreou had said that he thought this country needed a period of time before the snap elections because everything would unravel.
Now, the opposition having met with the president of the country today has softened its stance. It says we're prepared to negotiate and prepared to agree on the makeup of a coalition government but only if George Papandreou resigns. So, I think at this point, both from the perspective of the opposition and really from his own party, George Papandreou doesn't really have any other options.
HOLMES: All right. Diana Magnay for us in Athens -- thank you so much.
We're 11 minutes past the hour. We'll turn back to news in this country, and presidential politics. Herman Cain offering up an ethics lesson -- to us, the media -- giving reporters a piece of his mind. You'll hear from him next.
Stay with me.
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HOLMES: All right. Thirteen minutes past hour on this CNN SUNDAY MORNING.
More arrests late last night in the "Occupy Atlanta" protests. Protesters moved out of Woodruff Park at closing time but then they started marching down the street. Police tried to break up the crowd. 9 people were arrested, some of them allegedly after they knocked over a motorcycle cop.
Also in New York, around 20 protesters were arrested for clogging up sidewalks. They were marching toward banks and financial -- in the financial district. Organizers say the march was meant to support the Move Your Money Day effort that were targeting big banks.
On the political front now, Republican presidential -- there was a debate last night, did you know that? This is -- it had had potential here, maybe didn't leave up to the billing.
Newt Gingrich and Herman Cain -- they faced off in Texas. It was supposed to be, some thought might be, a lively one-on-one debate in the style of the legendary Lincoln-Douglass debates. Instead, it turned out they complimented each other's ideas and went after the president.
At one point, Newt Gingrich even likened President Obama to Bernie Madoff.
Apparently, though, Herman Cain well, the fireworks for him came after the debates. The rule was that no one was supposed to ask about those sexual harassment claims during the debate, so the questions came in a post-game, didn't sit well with Mr. Cain.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
CAIN: If you all listen, if you all just listen for 30 seconds, I will explain this one time.
REPORTER: Could you sit down for the microphone for us, sir?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: No, no. It's time for us to trade places, everybody. So, Mr. Cain, it's time for us to trade places.
CAIN: You see what I mean? You all -- I was going to do something that my staff told me to not to do and try to respond. OK? What I'm saying is this -- we are getting back on message, end of story, back on message.
Read all of the other accounts. Read all of the other accounts where everything has been answered in a story. We're getting back on message. OK?
(END VIDEO CLIP)
HOLMES: Well, he could say he wanted to get back on message. He'd been saying that for a couple of days now. But, still, reporters continue to ask those questions. More on the Cain campaign and I'll be checking with our Candy Crowley here in just a bit as she gets ready for her show at the top of next hour, "STATE OF THE UNION."
We're going to be talking a little sport coming up here in just a moment. It was billed as the game of the century. But can it really live up to the game of the century if no one even scored a touchdown?
Stay with me as the CNN SUNDAY MORNING continues.
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HOLMES: Seventeen minutes past the hour now. It was a heck of a night. I would if I could but I have to sit in the anchor desk and do the show.
But Ray D'Alessio and our sports guys, everybody was up late for this game.
RAY D'ALESSIO, HLN SPORTS: There are disadvantages of being an early morning sports anchor, because you got to stay up for games like this. I mean, T.J., seriously, they should have games like this, you know, in in the afternoon for people like you and I, who get up at 2:30 in the morning.
HOLMES: And then it went into overtime.
D'ALESSIO: Then it goes into overtime. Yes. I mean, the battle of the titans. Number one LSU against number two Alabama. Of course, Brian Dennehy Stadium packed to the rafters, we're talking over 100,000 people.
Check out this site. People going nuts! Running on to the field! LSU trying to do the impossible and that's beat Alabama on their home field, but just a great defensive battle here.
Alabama with a chance to take the lead in the fourth -- pass intercepted at the one yard line. The game would go to overtime, tied at 6. That's when Drew Alleman, the kicker, steps up, splits the upright, sending LSU to victory. And yes indeed, a disappointing loss for Alabama because, of course, this puts a huge dent in their hopes of reaching that national title, BCS National Title game.
HOLMES: What do you think? Some people don't like defensive battles, nine to six. People don't like that.
D'ALESSIO: No, I don't like that.
HOLMES: See? Just smash mouth football.
D'ALESSIO: You k now, especially for SEC type of football because SEC, you know, has the trademark, high scoring, lots of throwing, lots of passing -- and games like this, honestly I don't like.
HOLMES: Come on!
D'ALESSION: I just don't like it. I'm an offensive guy, I'm sorry.
I'm short, I'm small. I was never a good defensive tackle. I was a placekicker. So I like a lot of sports, and the fact that kicker actually won the game.
HOLMES: Let's turn now to a guy, I think this is after a touchdown. So, maybe you'll enjoy this one, right?
D'ALESSIO: Well, anybody who follows SEC football or Georgia football, there is always the saying they play the game between the hedges down in Georgia.
Check this out. Yes, this was Tavarres King, misses the touchdown pass. He winds up in the shrubs. They're like, oh, my gosh, get them out of there.
Can you believe that happened? It wouldn't happen twice in a game, would it? Oh, yes, it would.
Aaron White, touchdown, over the xylophones, into the hedges. And look at this, he's stuck. He can't get out.
They're pulling. They're tugging. He's stuck. Somebody call the shrub department. They start celebrating afterwards. That's a great leap there, too. You talk about some ups, a good 42-inch vertical.
Here's the celebration. Woo
That's the best part. But that's what college football's all about, catching a pass and falling into the shrubs. Hedges, excuse me.
All right, man, good to see you. Thanks for letting me use your coach.
HOLMES: No, any time, brother. Thank you so much.
Twenty minutes past the hour now. We're going to turn back to Greece -- financial misfortune there causing a big change at the top. How is this going to affect you and who is this prime minister now that's about to step down and the guy who's been holding the world markets in his hands? You will meet him next.
Stay with me.
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HOLMES: Twenty-two minutes past the hour now. I'm being joined now by Nadia Bilchik for our "Morning Passport."
And this name so many Americans have been hearing, this prime minister, Papandreou, about to step down. That's breaking news we got this morning. But this man has literally been holding your 401(k) in his hands.
NADIA BILCHIK, CNN EDITORIAL PRODUCER: Yes. This week, the markets tumbled just because he made an announcement that he was going to have a referendum as to whether or not the Greeks would adhere it the austerity measures.
Well, there isn't really a choice, is there? What choice does Greece have -- they either stay as part of the E.U. and adhere to austerity measures, or they become the pariahs of the world.
So, he has just announced intention to resign, which means as soon as a coalition government is formed, and it doesn't look like he will be part of that coalition government, which his opponent, Antonis Samaras, is delighted about.
Now, what's fascinating here, T.J., is Antonis Samaras, Papandreou's opponent, went to a Amherst College with him. They were roommate.
HOLMES: Wow.
BILCHIK: So, the man who wants Papandreou to resign.
Now, also interesting is if you think about Papandreou, he's much more of a labor leader. It's a socialist government. Not harder for Papandreou to pass the austerity measures. It's going to be much easier for a coalition government to do that.
So, I think this is going to bring a lot of confidence to the markets. I think people are already reacting by saying this is a good thing because people are singing from the same hymn page. You can't have Papandreou who's going, well, do we want this or not, and all the other people saying are you kidding? Do we have a choice?
What's so interesting in Greece when you look at the opulence, people could retire at around 50 years old with a pension of $50,000 to $60,000. Historically that's how they've been living. Wouldn't that be nice?
HOLMES: That sounds great but if that's what you're used to, then you have to give up a few years or a little less money in that pension, you know, over here in this country we might be looking at that and saying, wow, you've got it good.
But you know what? It's not what they're used to.
BILCHIK: It costs. Absolutely, in this country, unfortunately, we work a lot longer. We get a lot less when we do retire.
But what's happening is they're going to have to be huge cuts. You have this enormous government system in Greece. They're going to have to be cuts and austerity, people are going to have to live very differently. Who wants to do that? Papandreou certainly didn't want to be the one to have to pass those through. When one understands the complexity of the situation.
But there his college roommate, Antonis Samaras must be smiling today. Going to be interesting to see what happens and hopefully the coalition government will pass through these austerity measures so that your 401(k) can remain a 401(k) and not a 201k or in my case the 101k.
HOLMES: That is literally what we're talking about. Folks, it seems so such a distant from us. But if they don't get their debt under control, if Greece defaults on their loans, that could bring down other economies of other countries and this is a world market now. We're not just isolated anymore. This affects us all. So thank you --
BILCHIK: Historic today. George Papandreou announces that he will step down.
HOLMES: Our "Morning Passport" -- thank you for hopping in here, Nadia Bilchik. Thanks so much.
We're at 25 minutes past the hour now. And we're already talking about Thanksgiving. Maybe this turkey knows that Thanksgiving is on the way, planned a little get-away. The story ahead.
Stay with us.
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HOLMES: We're coming up on the bottom of the hour on this CNN SATURDAY MORNING -- excuse me, it's Sunday, right? I was up to late with that LSU/Alabama game. Sorry, it went no year of time.
Yes, it is Sunday morning here.
And there are some stories you just can't resist sometimes and some stories I need assistance from a man, Reynolds Wolf.
So, listen up to this one. We got Thanksgiving on the way. We see this fairly often, Reynolds. We see this more often than we should, don't we? Just wild turkeys running around.
REYNOLDS WOLF, AMS METEOROLOGIST: Yes, they're everywhere.
HOLMES: Are they?
WOLF: It's funny, it is supposed to be one of the most difficult animals to hunt. They are supposed to be incredibly intelligent animals. In fact, Benjamin Franklin considered that the wild turkey should be our national bird instead of the bald eagle.
But this one doesn't seem to intelligent. Does he?
HOLMES: Do you make this stuff up? Where do you get this information all the time?
WOLF: I have a plethora of useless information. This turkey needs some information as in getting out of the road, obviously dodging traffic. I don't expect a very long life for this turkey. Check him out.
HOLMES: Thanksgiving is around the corner.
But, Reynolds, I'm always impressed. You got information on every story we ever do. You have not just some info, extra info -- I'm talking about a nugget nobody would ever come up with.
WOLF: Smoker and mirrors.
HOLMES: Well, it works, my man. What you got weather-wise?
WOLF: Well, what I have rattling in my skull right now is something about -- well, a storm system we're seeing towards the west. Right now, it is a rainmaker and snowmaker for the great state of California. You know, California, is going to see the rain in parts of the San Joaquin Valley.
But when you got into higher off in parts of the coastal range and into the Sierra Nevada, we're not talking raindrops, we're talking some snow and with it possibly strong winds that will be piling into parts of I-80 especially near Reno, Nevada, to our friends in Truckee, you better be ready for that. Same deal in places Salt Lake City, not necessarily in Salt Lake City, but up toward snowbirds, the highest peaks you could see a good part of the snow throughout the day.
What's really going to be interesting is what it will come from that system out to the West? Already we have a very weak front, most of the activity farther in the northern plains for today but it is going to be that impels out toward the West that's going to be a major player in your forecast as we fast forward into tomorrow.
In fact, we'll look Sunday at 6:00 p.m., let's fast forward anyway to Monday -- Monday through the morning, to the midday hours and into the afternoon and into evening. That area of low pressure will finally eject from the Rocky Mountains, leaving snow in its wake but out ahead of it the chance of snowstorms and tornadic activity into portions of Texas, back into Oklahoma.
As we fast forward, that area of low pressure is going to follow the jet stream, moving up into portions of the Midwest and into the western Great Lakes. Yes, you could see some storms in St. Louis, Chicago, perhaps even parts of, say, Memphis and even Little Rock before all is said and done.
Back half of the system, you got the moisture, but you also that cold air coming in from the north. Moisture is going to give you a chance of snow there.
Chance of coal air in the Rockies is certainly going to be felt today but a little bit warmer for you in Denver with 47 degrees the high, 44 in Salt Lake City. 40 in Billings, 59 in San Francisco, back into Albuquerque with 52, 74 in Dallas, 70s in Memphis, 64 in Chicago, 50s from Boston to New York to Washington, 63 in Atlanta.
And Tampa and Miami are going to stay mostly in the 80s today, about 81 degrees near parts of Miami. Looks pretty good.
HOLMES: That sounds great.
And Reynolds, I'm told this next bit of video is some of the best video you will ever see. I intentionally did not watch this morning beforehand because I wanted to share it with the audience and experience it together.
The father-daughter dance at a wedding, this was in Texas. Things start out like they're supposed to but check out when things really got going. Let's look and check this out together.
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(FATHER-DAUGHTER DANCE AT A WEDDING)
(END VIDEO CLIP)
REYNOLDS WOLF, AMS METEOROLOGIST: I love it. I think it is great.
HOLMES: This is great.
WOLF: Absolutely.
HOLMES: Apparently this goes on for several minutes. But this -- what's her name here? Ashley Richmond and her dad, they started things out the way you traditionally see them but they then go through every classic dance you have ever seen with all the music to accompany it. And they say they actually practiced this Reynolds twice a week for a month and a half.
WOLF: Well that's cool. That's the way it should be. I mean whenever you see one of those father-daughter kind of dances it's always kind of sappy and always kind of sad. It should be a celebration. That's exactly what they're doing; that's the way it should be. That's beautiful.
HOLMES: All right, we've got another piece here. They say we're going to fast forward to the ending when you think it's over. So let's look at that as well. Oh that -- this is it.
WOLF: That's good stuff.
HOLMES: Congratulation and apparently the wedding was last year but it's just hitting the Internet and people are just seeing it, it is going viral, of course, but that is pretty cool.
WOLF: And obviously a great father and daughter bond there.
HOLMES: Yes.
WOLF: That's beautiful. I mean, that's the way it should be. HOLMES: That's very cool. All right, Reynolds, thanks. We'll see you again here shortly.
WOLF: You bet man.
HOLMES: We're 32 minutes past the hour now.
And coming up in our "Faces of Faith" segment, the most prized possession; can you imagine that being stolen from you? What if that most priced procession is your hair? We're going to take you to Ohio where thieves are cutting off the beards of Amish men and the victims say they'd rather die than have their hair taken from them.
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HOLMES: We are at 35 minutes past the hour on this CNN SUNDAY MORNING. I'm glad you could spend part of your weekend here with us. I'll give you a look at some of the stories making headlines.
Greek officials say embattled Prime Minister Papandreou will resign once a new coalition government is formed. That could happen in a matter of hours. World markets could get a boost with the news knowing the government could soon move ahead with that massive bailout plan for Greece. We'll see what kind of effect when those markets do open -- start opening later today.
Also, we'll take a look at this damage from a moderate earthquake that shook central Oklahoma last night. A reporter for one of our affiliates there says the 5.3 magnitude quake -- 5.6 I believe it was -- made some homes look like they had been ransacked. No deaths, no severe injuries reported.
Also NFL receiver -- well, he's out of a job right now but Terrell Owens he's a wanted man right now and not by an NFL team. California authorities have issued an arrest warrant for Owens after he failed to show up for a child support hearing last month. Owens spokesman says the free agent had tried to reschedule the hearing to attend an NFL workout and trying to resolve the situation.
Meanwhile the NBA is giving the players association until Wednesday to accept the deal on a new collective bargaining agreement. Under the new proposal players would get between 49 percent and 51 percent of revenues. Players union already indicating that just isn't going to happen.
Well, the Amish community in Ohio, usually pretty quiet. These Mennonite Christians believe in living the simple life. And now a split has developed in the community and there are reports of violence and a suspected cult. Five men have been arrested on kidnapping and burglary charges after a series of beard-cutting incidents.
CNN's Gary Tuchman takes us inside a community that values its privacy but is now the subject of a federal criminal investigation.
(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE) GARY TUCHMAN, CNN NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: In rural eastern Ohio, the Amish have lived for generations in peace and solitude. But recently in the middle of the night, an Amish woman in this house, Arlene Miller, called 911.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Carroll County 911.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We had terrorists here. Somebody is terrorizing us.
(END AUDIO CLIP)
TUCHMAN: And then her husband Myron took the phone.
(BEGIN AUDIO CLIP)
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I opened my door and asked them what they want. The one guy he reached in grabbed me by my beard and pulled me out.
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TUCHMAN: Grabbed him by his beard and started to cut it off. Myron Miller is one of at least four Amish men in Ohio who have been victims of bizarre beard-cutting attacks. That's right. Beard- cutting attacks.
Fred Abdalla is the sheriff in Jefferson County, Ohio.
FRED ABDALLA, SHERIFF, JEFFERSON COUNTY, OHIO: It's very degrading to an Amish man. One Amish man say he'd rather die than have his beard cut off. That's how bad that is.
TUCHMAN: Myron Miller was attacked by five men. He escaped before his entire beard was cut. He talks but like many Amish who don't like publicity did not want to face the camera.
MYRON MILLER, VICTIM OF BEARD-CUTTING: It doesn't make sense to us either why somebody would just start cutting beards, terrorize people.
TUCHMAN: Myron Miller's wife did not want her face on camera at all.
(on camera): There we go. This is my first time putting a horse on a buggy.
(voice-over): But she did offer to take me on a horse and buggy ride to talk about the fear in the community.
(on camera): Amish people aren't used to being scared. It is such a peaceful lifestyle.
ARLENE MILLER, WIFE OF BEARD-CUTTING ATTACK VICTIM: We never locked our doors before this happened. But now that this has happened, we are all locking our doors.
TUCHMAN: And this is who they say they are trying to keep out; these Amish men who were arrested in connection with the beard-cutting case of Myron Miller. This was a court hearing for three of the five men arrested. They are all now free out on bond but the sheriff says the men were ordered to do the beard-cuttings by one particular man.
ABDALLA: I've dealt with a lot of Amish. They're just beautiful people. But I can't compare Sam Mullet to the ones that I have met.
TUCHMAN: Sam Mullet is the bishop of a break-way Amish sect that's in a deep rift with the mainstream Amish who say he is dangerously manipulative over his flock.
But why the beard-cutting? It's a profound insult to the Amish and Mullet's followers have allegedly used it as a weapon to punish people who might have insulted them. Three of the men arrested are sons of Sam Mullet.
ABDALLA: He's a domineering individual. Nothing moves in that community without him saying it's ok. He calls all the shots and they're literally scared to death of him. And I've said that he is a cult leader over the years because they will do anything he tells them to do. They once said they will die for their father. That's how severely he has them brain washed.
TUCHMAN: So we went to the tiny town of Bergholz, Ohio in search of Sam Mullet and we found him. He wasn't very pleased to see us.
(on camera): If the Sheriff says you're a cult what's your response to that?
SAM MULLET, BISHOP OF BERGHOLZ AMISH COMMUNITY: We're not a cult.
TUCHMAN: But did you, have you ordered men to cut people's beards off.
MULLET: I did not order anything.
TUCHMAN: But Sam Mullet does not deny that his sons or the other men committed the beard attacks.
MULLET: They do what they think is right. And I'm -- yes, I could have probably said you're not going to do this and maybe they wouldn't have right then, but sooner or later it would have happened anyway.
TUCHMAN: But why do you think these people had their beards cut off?
MULLET: We're getting in too deep. And it's too long a story. It goes way back, I'm just not interested.
TUCHMAN: But do you think those people did something wrong?
MULLET: I'm telling you I'm not interested. Can you hear me?
TUCHMAN (voice-over): To Myron Miller's wife, Arlene who later decided she would appear on camera, there is no doubt who is behind the attacks.
(on camera): Who do you believe is responsible for all this?
A. MILLER: Sam. Sam Mullet.
TUCHMAN (voice-over): She says Sam Mullet is angry at her family because her family helped one of Mullet's sons leave his father's group.
A. MILLER: If -- if they ever do arrest him and he comes out, he's able to get out on bond, he's not going to go down easy.
TUCHMAN: Sam Mullet hasn't been arrested but authorities say they're building a case against him.
ABDALLA: I can't take any chances with this guy.
TUCHMAN: Meanwhile, no arrests have been made in another case. An Amish woman was victimized by a haircutting attack. Amish women consider their hair to be God's glory. The police report stating the victim removed her bandana and revealed several patches of hair missing. The sheriff says Mullet is behind that attack and now the federal government has decided to get involved.
(on camera): The FBI is now investigating this situation. What's your feeling about that?
MULLET: We're not guilty so I have nothing to hide. If they want to come and check us out, we'd be glad to see them here.
TUCHMAN (voice-over): Sam Mullet claims people have a vendetta against him, that he just wants his people to be left alone and that he is the righteous one.
MULLET: People that are spreading lies around about us and the way they're treating us by getting the sheriff, getting the law, and everything, are asking for a big punishment from the man up above.
TUCHMAN: For people who are supposed to live very simply, life has become complicated and very intimidating.
Gary Tuchman, CNN, Carrollton, Ohio.
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HOLMES: Well, if you'd like to read more about this story, more about the Amish, you can go to our belief blog at CNN.com/belief. Share your thoughts there.
Well, Herman Cain and the polls after the break talking to our Candy Crowley. She's in Washington getting ready for her show, "THE STATE OF THE UNION". There she is. And seeing a new poll showing the sexual harassment allegations may be hurting Cain. My conversation with Candy is next. Stay here.
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HOLMES: All right. Quarter of the top of the hour; let's say good morning to Candy Crowley, "STATE OF THE UNION" coming up in just a moment. We join just an excited Candy Crowley this morning. You must have a really good show coming up.
CANDY CROWLEY, CNN HOST, "STATE OF THE UNION": Well that, and I'm very caffeinated. But yes, we're going to cover a lot of territory this morning --
HOLMES: Ok.
Crowley: -- from, you know, Herman Cain and everything else that's transpiring or is about to transpire.
HOLMES: Ok. How much, Candy -- first, before we even get into Herman Cain and what's been happening, answer this for me. How much is this really taking away from progress we could be making in the conversation or for voters trying to, you know, look through these candidates? How much is this really taking away from the conversation we really should be having?
CROWLEY: Well, listen, the past week as far as the Republican campaign trail is concerned was all about Herman Cain. So clearly what's taking over the headlines -- now you know -- has been Herman Cain. But I will also say to you that out on the campaign trail, in Iowa, and in New Hampshire, and in South Carolina, mostly these candidates are not besieged at all or even asked once about anything to do with Herman Cain so that conversation is still taking place. But, you know, in terms of the national look at it, that certainly has been the political story of this week.
HOLMES: Are we seeing any signs -- because several polls we saw, people said this was not affecting their opinion of Herman Cain -- so are we seeing any sign that he's being affected by these allegations?
CROWLEY: Well, there's some trouble signs. First, I think in the ABC poll that we looked at last week Herman Cain still remained near the top. We did see that about a quarter of Republican voters thought it was serious. So if it should progress into anything more, that certainly is a sign that Herman Cain may be in trouble by this.
There's another poll out, a Reuters/IPSOS poll that indicates that there may be some sliding of approval for Herman Cain. It's going to take a while and several other polls to try and figure this out, and that assumes that nothing else happens. Certainly Herman Cain is trying to shut down this conversation now.
HOLMES: And tell me, who do you have this morning?
CROWLEY: Oh, my goodness, I couldn't run through the whole thing. But I will tell you that Mark O'Malley, who's head of the Democratic Governors Association, governor from Maryland is going to come on and talk about President Obama and 2012 politics. Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison, Republican from Texas is also going to be with us to take a look at the super committee and the chances they'll actually come up with a plan to bring down the deficit, which they must do at some point.
HOLMES: Well, they better bring it and match your caffeinated state this morning because Candy Crowley is ready and she coming your way in just 12 minutes. Candy, always good to see you. But "STATE OF THE UNION" starts at 9:00 Eastern, 6:00 Pacific right here on CNN.
Well, they are learning to fight back. Women increase their odds of surviving an attack by learning self-defense. That's after the break.
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HOLMES: Being responsible for your own safety; some will tell you that's something that every woman should consider. Our senior medical correspondent Elizabeth Cohen now has more in today's "Health for Her".
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Police department.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: A man is trying to break in my door.
ELIZABETH COHEN, CNN SENIOR MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT: This woman calling 911 was hoping to be rescued.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Why are you here? Why?
COHEN: The police arrived too late to stop the attack. She was raped but survived.
TOM FORKNER, SELF-DEFENSE INSTRUCTOR: She gave 100 percent of the responsibility for her safety to someone else.
COHEN: These women are learning about that case and how they can avoid becoming a victim.
The average police response time in mid to large cities in the United States is more than 10 minutes. What you do before police arrive can mean the difference between life and death.
T.J. ALVARADO, SELF-DEFENSE INSTRUCTOR: If they want your purse, give it to them because your life is worth protecting and is valuable. We can replace a purse.
COHEN: If they can't diffuse a dangerous situation, these women learned to fight.
ALVARADO: What is your target area? The face.
COHEN: They practice thrusting fingers to the eyes, fists or palms to the face. Then aiming for the groin, never forgetting --
ALVARADO: If they want you to move to a different location, do not do it. It is a death sentence.
COHEN: These women now know they have a fighting chance.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I was taken down by a 76-year-old grandma.
COHEN: As they take charge of their own safety. With this week's "Health for Her", I'm Elizabeth Cohen.
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HOLMES: Are you one of the ones fed up with all those bank fees? You are certainly not alone. Coming up after the break, have you heard of this -- the move your money movement. I got a guy telling you why you need to consider a credit union.
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HOLMES: "STATE OF THE UNION" with Candy Crowley coming your way in just a moment.
Give you a look at some of the stories making headlines including the breaking story out of Greece this morning. Greek officials say the embattle prime minister -- there he is -- George Papandreou -- will resign once a new coalition government is formed. That could happen in a matter of hours.
World markets could get a boost with this news knowing the government could soon move forward, move ahead with that massive bailout plan. We'll see what kind of effect those -- this news does have on the markets when they start open up a little later today.
Back here in the States, though, a backlash against big banks.
That's one of thousands of fed-up Americans across this country, who closed their accounts at big banks. Two similar movements declared Saturday called bank transfer day and move your money day. Many people say they're sick of costly multiplying bank fees, so where are they putting their cash instead?
Bill Cheney, who I talked to a short time ago, he's head of the Credit Union National Association. I asked him how many people have now moved their money into credit unions.
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BILL CHENEY, PRESIDENT, CREDIT UNION NATIONAL ASSOCIATION: Over 650,000 people have moved their money; $4.5 billion, probably more than that. The interesting thing about that, T.J., is that's about a year's worth of growth for credit unions in one month.
HOLMES: It took people to get upset with Bank of America to come to the credit unions. I guess is it difficult to put your message up and against a Bank of America which, of course, has advertising all over the place? Is that the issue? Why don't people know enough about you? CHENEY: Well, you know, that's a great question. We ask ourselves that all the time. Credit unions are focused on their members. They're focused on their community. They don't have these multi-million dollar ad budgets. So while you see Bank of America commercials and similar big banks all the time, credit unions are focused on serving their members.
So we've worked hard to try and get the message out. This has certainly been helpful to us but there's are a lot of things people don't understand about credit unions, you know. T.J. people think that, well, I'm not eligible to join the credit unions just for that company or that organization.
Credit unions have really changed over the years. As the financial system has modernized, credit unions have modernized. While you do have to be eligible to join a credit union, we have tools now that make it easier to find a credit union that you're eligible to join.
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HOLMES: All right. In the last 45 seconds of this show, let's say hello to Reynolds Wolf to give us one last look --
REYNOLDS WOLF, AMS METEOROLOGIST: 45 seconds -- there's no pressure.
HOLMES: That's all we got. That's all we got.
WOLF: Oh my God.
HOLMES: Why are you wasting time? See, you just lost about 15 seconds.
WOLF: See what happens; time melting the sand in the hourglass or however it goes.
All right guys, take a look. We have some scattered showers you're going to be seeing across parts of the Northern Plains; out to the west, rain in the valleys and mountains. Might see some snowfall; some places could get fairly deep especially in your highest peaks.
Plenty of sunshine for much Texas and into the Southern Plains; nice, cool and dry for you for much of the Eastern Seaboard but look for a chance of storms in the Central Plains by tomorrow, certainly by tomorrow afternoon.
Very quickly, your temperatures: Chicago 64; 40 in Billings; 44 your high in Salt Lake City; 59 degrees the high in San Francisco; 63 in Atlanta; 59 in Washington and 56 in New York -- T.J. back to you.
HOLMES: Good stuff, Renny.
Candy Crowley right now.
