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Protesters Ignoring Police Warning; Countdown to Iowa; Penn State's Tumultuous Week; Protesters Line Streets of Portland; U.S. Open for Business with Asia; Sneezing, Wheezing, Coughing; Changes to Catholic Mass
Aired November 13, 2011 - 08:00 ET
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T.J. HOLMES, CNN ANCHOR: Good Sunday morning. We're at the top of the hour, 8:00 Eastern Time.
But it is 5:00 a.m. in Portland, Oregon, where you are looking at a live picture of where protesters, "Occupy" protesters, have defied a deadline to leave an encampment where these demonstrators have been for the past several weeks. They were giving a midnight local time deadline to leave. That order came from the police and from the mayor.
But here we are, five hours after that deadline has come and gone, but the protesters have not gone anywhere.
We did get word from police -- at least one police officer was hit with a projectile. He had to be taken to the hospital, told he is going to be OK. But for the most part we have not seen violence break out, but police are standing by in riot gear. We don't have word of whether or not they are about to move in and try to get people out.
We did get word a short time ago -- at least a local paper, "Oregonian," is reporting that police are now telling people you need to get out of the streets or face arrest. But, again, we have been watching these pictures throughout the morning and we are five hours, like I mention, past that deadline for people to leave the encampment. But, yes, it's 5:00 a.m. local time and people are still out in a stand-off with police.
Earlier this morning, I talked to one of those protesters, someone who has been a part of the "Occupy" demonstrations in Portland for the past six weeks. Her name is Kari Koch. Listen to what she told me.
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KARI KOCH, OCCUPY PORTLAND PROTESTER: What we're doing here in "Occupy Portland" and the "Occupy" movement globally is we are bringing to the forefront issues that desperately matter to people. We're talking about inequality of wealth and power. We're talking about homelessness and foreclosures. We're talking about issues that matter to people's lives.
And the mayor can order us to leave, but we have the right to freedom of assembly, we have right to free speech and we have the right to be in these parks. And we're not going to back down and leave the parks just because it's inconvenient for the mayor to have us here.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
HOLMES: And Kari Koch, as you were hearing here there, and again, I want to remind you, what you're seeing up on your screen, these are from our affiliates, the local affiliates there, and all of these are live pictures. This is not video from earlier. But yes, it's 5:00 a.m. local time and people are still out in the streets in some sort of stand-off with police.
Joining me on the line right now is Lieutenant Robert King with the Portland Police Department.
Sir, we appreciate you. I know it's been a busy night and this night continues for you all. So, I appreciate you taking the time out.
We got this word from the "Oregonian" -- they sent out a message saying police told protesters to leave the road or face arrest. Is that true?
LT. ROBERT KING, PORTLAND POLICE DEPT. (via telephone): That's the position we're in now. You know, earlier tonight, one of our officers was injured. He was struck in the leg by some object. He's been transported to an area hospital, thankfully, with non-life threatening injuries.
But after following that incident, a large group of people, hundreds, maybe thousands of people, have made their way into the street. And so we've taken a sort of position and established a line and there are just a large number of people that are now in the street, kind of blocking the intersection. And so, we've been asking them to move out of the street so we can re-open the street and get the city going.
But this has been going on now for hours. And we're in a position where obviously, at some point, we're likely to have to act.
HOLMES: And, Lieutenant King, you gave people -- at least the ones, the "Occupy" demonstrators who were in the encampment until midnight, which is five hours ago there, local time, to get out of these encampments. I understand that many of them did pack up and leave.
Is that true? And if so, how many actually were part of that encampment and left?
KING: Well, a lot of people packed up and left today. You know, that's one of the things that's disheartening about this. Hundreds, maybe thousands of people who came down here tonight who have not participated in the "Occupy" movement at all. It is just if they came down to watch a possible confrontation with police.
So many people moved out, complying as we asked them to. Many people came down tonight and were peaceful and it's just a handful of people who were intent on a confrontation with police that ultimately has brought us to this point.
HOLMES: Lieutenant King, it sounds like -- correct me if I'm wrong, but is it fair to say for the most part, the people causing you trouble this evening are not the one who have been apart of these "Occupy" demonstrations the past several weeks. And we even heard a person who tell us earlier that the bars closed around at 2:00 a.m., and people just flooded out into the streets.
Is it fair to say troublemakers are not necessarily affiliated with the "Occupy" movement?
KING: I think so. I think that's true, too, to some degree. You know, the folks who are a part of "Occupy Portland" here in the last 35, 36 days have been engaged in non-violent protests. But tonight, there is a very tune in the crowd. There's an escalation. There's drums being pounded on. There are people are singing, chants.
It's not -- you know, here we are, 4:00, 5:00 in the morning, it's not deescalating. People are not leaving as we've asked them to, it is in fact escalating and they are just becoming more and more I guess excited, unfortunately.
HOLMES: And, Lieutenant King, you said, it's certainly good to hear that your officer is going to be OK. But is it fair to say for the most part peaceful this evening?
KING: I think tonight, so far, with the exception of the injury to one officer, that, yes, by and large, tonight has been peaceful. It's been peaceful in the way that the occupation here in Portland has been really since it started. And so, that's one of the things that we think is sort of tragic and disappointing and unfortunate.
You know, we work closely with "Occupy" for over the last month and this was never about a confrontation with police. "Occupy" movement here locally and around the country and around the world has been about something all together different.
So, for us at the end of what's been a difficult and expensive road, we think it is really unfortunate that we're in this situation where it appears as if the resolution to "Occupy" at least here in Portland is going to result in some sort of confrontation with protesters.
HOLMES: And, sir, as I let you go here, you said you are getting to a point where you might have to act. Have you all given yourselves some kind of a deadline given the protesters who are in the streets -- or the people I should say maybe in the streets, some kind of deadline to clear out or you will have to move?
KING: We've not laid down a deadline. But you know, at a certain point in time, it is going to start to get daylight. People are going to start making their way around the city. And so, you know, inevitably, this time ultimately, either we'd like for people to leave or, you know, something along the lines of a confrontation might happen.
We're genuinely hoping that this matter resolves itself peacefully, but we're obviously concerned given some of the things that have happened tonight. HOLMES: Lieutenant Robert King, I know it's been a busy night for you all and that night actually continues right now as it's about 10 minutes past the hour, 5:00 a.m. local time there. Sir, thank you for your time. We'll check in with you again and we will keep an eye on things.
KING: Thank you.
HOLMES: All right. We will continue to watch those live pictures out of Portland. You are hearing there from Lieutenant King. He said it is getting to a point where they're going to have to possibly act in some fashion.
They've been warning people get out of the streets or face arrest. So we are standing by. He said he's hoping they don't have to come to that.
We are seven minutes past the hour now.
Portland is not the only city that has been moving on some of the "Occupy" protesters. We have seen many pictures, many scenes like this one in Oakland but really all across the country. This is Oakland here. Some of the biggest clashes we have seen have been between police and protesters in Oakland.
Also, we've seen some similar scenes in Denver. Also, governments in -- city governments in Atlanta, as well as St. Louis, have made moves to tell people you've got to leave these encampments or face us coming in and forcing you out.
We will turn to politics now -- but we won't go too far away from what's happening in Portland. We're keeping a close eye on all those live feeds.
But to politics now and national security, that was the focus of last night's Republican presidential debate in South Carolina. Eight candidates up there are trying to set themselves apart in the minds of voters. We've just got two months to go now before people start voting in those Iowa caucuses.
Now, I'm going to take you through some of the highlights from last evening, if you will. The issue of torture came up -- torture for some, enhanced interrogation techniques for others. Depends on who you ask and also the issue of waterboarding came up and the candidates clearly had different opinions.
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REP. MICHELE BACHMANN (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: If I were president, I would be willing to use waterboarding. I think it was very effective. It gained information for our country.
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JON HUNTSMAN (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Waterboarding is torture. We dilute ourselves down like a lot of countries and we lose that ability to project values.
HERMAN CAIN (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I would return to that policy. I don't see it as torture. I see it as an enhanced interrogation technique.
REP. RON PAUL (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Torture is illegal and -- by our laws. It's illegal by international laws.
GOV. RICK PERRY (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I'm for using techniques, not torture, but using those techniques that we know will extract the information to save young American lives, and I will be for it until I die.
(END VIDEO CLIPS)
HOLMES: Meanwhile, Michele Bachmann's campaign, they are a little bothered by something that happened last night surrounding the news debate. It had nothing to do really with what she said during the debate, but how much she was allowed to say.
You see, there was an e-mail chain. We've had all this issue before. You accidentally hit "reply all" and someone who wasn't supposed to get the e-mail gets the e-mail? Well, this is that situation.
The e-mail was sent out by CBS' political director John Dickerson. In a larger e-mail about post-debate interviews, he had this to say about Bachmann's role in the debate itself, and I quote, "She's not going to get many questions and she's nearly off the charts." Well, he hit "reply all" on this e-mail and it actually went to one of Michele Bachmann's campaign staffers.
Now this is what Bachmann had to say about that e-mail message.
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BACHMANN: It was targeted to me. I don't know if it was targeted to anyone else, but each of the candidates are invited to come here, and each of the candidates have something to say. And I have something to say about foreign policy as well, and I think it's only respectful to allow the candidates to be able to speak and not intentionally ahead of time make a decision to limit candidates' opportunity to speak to the American people.
This isn't about -- this shouldn't be about media bias. Clearly, this was an example of media bias. This should be about an effort to get all of the information on the table.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
HOLMES: Now, for the CBS part and Dickerson's part, he says, essentially no, this wasn't meant for a campaign staffer, but it was a private e-mail between a couple of CBS employees but still staying by what he said -- essentially saying, hey, she's polling at 4 percent. Of course, she's not going to be the focal point of this particular debate. Meanwhile, Michele Bachmann is using this maybe as a campaign rally, maybe as a ploy to raise a little more. We will have much more on this and the rest of the Republican field. We're going to be talking to Candy Crowley, host of CNN's "STATE OF THE UNION." Of course, that's coming up a little later this hour.
But at 11 minutes past the hour now, we turn to Penn State football game that was supposed to be the beginning of a healing process. Students coming out to support their team and also to remember the alleged victims of the sexual abuse scandal that has really shocked the university and shocked the country.
But a nice moment before the game: both teams, Penn State and Nebraska, their coming together before the game now in the middle of the field to say a prayer. Now, Penn State ends up losing the game, 17-14. But that's just part of the story.
Mike Galanos has been reporting from campus for us this weekend.
Mike, hello again.
And was the fact that Penn State lost the game really the most insignificant part of the day yesterday?
MIKE GALANOS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Almost, T.J., almost. That's well put, because it was so much more, about so much more than football.
And you wonder what did everybody go through as we watched this unfold? Number one, what was the alleged victim thinking? You know, let's stop and think of that, because these alleged victims are about the same age as the students now. What were they thinking as they were watching. Hopefully, they found support as they were honored and remembered and over $20,000 was raised in Beaver Stadium behind me.
You also wonder about the significant players in all this. What were they going through? Penn State takes the field without Joe Paterno as head coach for the first time since 1966 -- although there was a Paterno on the sidelines, his son, assistant coach Jay Paterno.
And imagine what he has gone through this week. A son hearing his father besmirched, losing his job and I think he wanted to cry out probably throughout the week and we saw a glimpse of those emotions right after the game. Let's watch that.
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JAY PATERNO, JOE PATERNO'S SON: Joe's always taught us about the blue line of practice and when you cross the blue line, the only thing you control is what you're doing right there. So, we just had to imagine there was a blue line coming in to this stadium and once we were here, we were focused on the task at hand and just a little short.
Dad, I wish you were here. We love you.
(END VIDEO CLIP) GALANOS: Boy, that says it all. Those kinds of emotions I'm sure were team-wide. The players talked about how hard it was to play without their coach, Joe Paterno.
And, T.J., they left bus 1, seat 1, always there for Joe Paterno, they left it vacant in honor of their coach. And he had given a message and said, hey, don't worry about me. You guys worry about the game. I'll be with you in spirit.
But has that healing process begun? I believe we hope so. And it's that -- the donations to help prevent child abuse, that's huge and I believe that's a real victory coming out of State College right now. Back to you.
HOLMES: All right. Mike Galanos there for us -- thank you this weekend.
And we're at quarter past the hour now.
And there's also some similar soul searching going on at the Citadel. University officials now admit they should have done more when allegations of inappropriate sexual conduct surfaced there a few years ago.
A former cadet and camp counselor Louis ReVille was arrested last month on charges of criminal sexual conduct and attempted lewd acts with a child. But it was back in 2007 that a red flag was raised about his conduct at the Citadel. The university stopped investigating after their attorney said they couldn't confirm any acts of abuse had taken place.
As we are at quarter past the hour on this CNN SUNDAY MORNING, let us say good morning to our Reynolds Wolf.
You still keeping an eye on the Rockies?
REYNOLDS WOLF, AMS METEOROLOGIST: Absolutely. I mean, to be honest with you, in light of some of the stories we've had this morning, seems very minimal.
But yes, we do have some weather to deal with, a very big storm has been rocking parts of the central Rockies, we're talking about potential wind gusts approaching 70, perhaps even surpassing 70 miles an hour, and then on top of that, several feet of snow.
In Atlanta, however, things look good. In fact, take a look at this is a great shot that we have outside. Little bit of mackerel skies out there, but should be very nice, mild highs in the 70s for today.
T.J., let's pitch it right back to you, man.
HOLMES: Reynolds, thank you. We'll talk to Reynolds again here shortly.
But it was supposed to be a football game. But it seems like football was kind of the last thing on a lot of people's minds. We're going to go back to Penn State here in a moment, talking with a leader of the student government there about yesterday's game. And if that was really a good first step to heal.
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HOLMES: Nineteen minutes past the hour now on this CNN SUNDAY MORNING.
It was one of the most unprecedented and really embarrassing weeks in college football history. It's now wrapping up and a lot of people are wondering where doing Penn State go from here?
It was a solemn pre-game scene. Look at this. It was a nice moment. Nittany Lions walked on to the field without their head coach, Joe Paterno, yesterday. He's been a fixture at PSU since 1950.
But the teams got together and said a prayer right before the game. Coach Paterno and the school's long-time president were both fired in the wake of the child rape scandal.
And Penn State student body president, T.J. Bard, joins live me now from campus.
T.J., we appreciate you being here.
Yesterday, a good first step for the university?
T.J. BARD, PRES., UNIVERSITY PARK UNDERGRARD ASSOC.: Absolutely. The game was indescribable emotionally. I think students really needed the football game this Saturday. It really was -- it brought the students together and it was one of the most highly emotionally charged football games I've ever been to.
HOLMES: You said really need the game. Didn't necessarily need a victory. Did that part seem pretty insignificant yesterday, the fact that the team lost?
BARD: I mean, we would have loved to have the victory, but I think just the sense of community and being in that stadium, having some sort of normalcy again was the most important.
Something I've never seen before in a Penn State football game, we had the student section filled to the very last second to the game and after the game ended it truly seemed like no one wanted to leave. All the students stuck around for maybe 10 or 15 minutes after the game. No one really wanted it to be over. We just didn't want to lose that be sense of community that we had longed for for so long this week.
HOLMES: And, T.J., how important was it for you to put on a good display yesterday, given what we saw several days ago with the rioting. And that had to be an embarrassing episode for many of you all on campus. But how critical was it for you all to put on a good display yesterday of what that university is about, given that you knew the entire country was going to be watching you yesterday?
BARD: What's been most important for the students in the past three or four days have been really honoring the victims and turning the national spotlight to child abuse prevention, and I think that was something we really wanted to honor and remember with the blue-out, the various donation collecting we had been doing over the past couple days. And it was phenomenal to actually bring worldwide attention to child abuse and really show what Penn State is about and what the students really care about at this point.
HOLMES: And, T.J., I'm getting different opinions from students there on campus. But so much of that raw emotion was about coach Paterno being fired, before a lot of information -- we certainly know more now.
But now, knowing what you know and hearing the reaction from Joe Paterno and some of the statements he's put out, do you think it was the right thing for him to be fired?
BARD: I think only time will truly tell. Obviously, you never want to see someone like Joe Paterno go out the way he did. He's been an inspiration and legacy of this university. But at the end of the day, I think a lot of students trust the board of trustees, trust their decision, and I think we'll really see in the next coming weeks and months if it was the right decision or not.
HOLMES: T.J. Bard, thank you for being here. And really -- I want to commend a lot of students on that campus for how you all carried yourselves in the days after the whole scandal broke, after the rioting. It's, frankly, admirable and proud to see a college campus and young people come together and really put on the display like you all did yesterday, knowing the pressure and eyes were going to be on you.
So, congratulations on that. We look forward to watching you all move forward.
BARD: Thank you so much.
HOLMES: All right. Twenty-two past the hour.
Let me bring in HLN sports anchor Joe Carter. Football game -- it would have been one of the, frankly, biggest football games of the year had this scandal not taken place. I mean, a lot was on the line for the Nittany Lions.
JOE CARTER, HLN SPORTS ANCHOR: Yes.
HOLMES: But football seemed so insignificant in a lot of ways.
CARTER: Didn't it? Great job, T.J., by the way. I thought he did a great job in that interview.
And I have to give kudos to ESPN, by the way. They covered that yesterday, breaking away from college game day and going to the Penn State coverage 15 minutes before the kickoff, watching the players be introduced on senior day, watching the team walk out arm in arm. And then the show of solidarity between Nebraska and Penn State and all the people on the sidelines for them to come to mid-field and to get on a knee and pray for several minutes. The stadium falls silent.
I really, really, really couldn't hold back my emotions yesterday. I thought it was an incredible moment, one that I've never seen. Just genuine compassion from both sides, from everyone there.
And as T.J. was saying, the show of the blue-out, the support for child abuse victims, this is clearly an unprecedented time for the university, for State College, for this entire campus, for anyone that's ever involved in Penn State, alumni, past and present.
You know, it's -- you know, I'm at a loss for words sometimes with this story because it's just -- it's hard to talk about. But at the same time, I'm excited to see where this university is going to -- where they're going to go next. You know, where they're going to come out of this and I hope that they come out shining, because they deserve that at this point. It's like learning Santa Claus is not real. I'm sorry for those that are just learning.
But, you know, you learn about Joe Paterno. And that was -- it hurt me as a college football fan and as somebody that gets to do this as a living. It's just a sad story.
HOLMES: All right. I think one of the most poignant things I heard was from a Nebraska fan saying we are all Penn State today. That kind of wraps it up.
We're going to have to leave it right there. Joe, we appreciate you, as always, coming down. Thanks so much.
CARTER: You bet.
HOLMES: We're 25 minutes past the hour.
We're going to join Reynolds Wolf here in just a moment, once again, talking about this nasty winter storm moving across Colorado.
Stay with us here on this CNN SUNDAY MORNING.
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WOLF: Talk college football again, as always.
HOLMES: Yes.
WOLF: But we've got something else big happening, don't we?
HOLMES: Why you ask me? You're the weather guy.
WOLF: Weather-wise we've got huge that's happening. We always look at weather around the country but one thing really captures the eye, really captures the imagination -- a massive winter storm moving into the Rocky Mountains.
HOLMES: I always ask this.
WOLF: OK. HOLMES: Some kind of historical perspective -- do these just come along every now and again or is this something pretty special we're watching?
WOLF: Well, a little bit of both. I mean, you have a pattern. I mean, obviously, it's not odd at all to have snow in the Rocky Mountains. It does happen.
But this is a very potent one. First, time will tell if we're going to see more of this winter. I guarantee you, we're going to see some.
Keep in mind, the Rocky Mountains can get snowfall in June. But this is certainly one of the first big wintry blasts we've seen. It doesn't look too compelling right now if you check out the radar, just a little bit of rainfall near Salt Lake City and higher elevations, we've got some snow.
But what we anticipate wind gusts topping 60, some possibly approaching 70 miles an hour as that area of low pressure pulls the east, that area of high pressure just a little bit to the southwest of that, the combination of both is going to create what we refer to in weather as a tight pressure gradient. With that pressure gradient you're going to have against some very strong wind gusts.
Take a look this, as of yesterday. T.J., this is what I'm talking about.
We had wind gusts in Berthoud Pass, in Colorado, 113 miles per hour. In Pikes Peak, 109 miles per hour. And also, Utah, 74. Boulder, Colorado, some strong winds obviously, over in Scottsbluff in Arkansas. Even in the Central Plains, some approaching 60 miles an hour.
So, again this will ramp up, really intensify. Anyone driving on the freeway, say, making the trip from Denver to points west, it's going to be just brutal for you. Be careful out there.
In fact, if you can avoid it, don't make that trip at all. Wait until Monday, wait until Tuesday and you'll be better off.
Same story for parts of the northern Rockies. California finally catching a break after several days of rain. Nice and warm for you in parts of Texas. Very mild on the Eastern Seaboard but Great Lakes, you're going to see rain today.
Chicago, 66; 75 your high in Memphis; 60s from Boston to New York to Washington. The high in Atlanta, 70; 80 in New Orleans; 80s for Miami and Tampa; 56 in Albuquerque; 83 in Dallas; 46 in Billings; 50 in Portland; 65 in San Francisco; and 69 in Los Angeles.
That's a wrap on the forecast. T.J., back to you.
HOLMES: Reynolds, thank you, kind sir.
And when we come back we will check in once again with what's happening in Portland, Oregon where there has been a standoff between police and protesters for the past several hours. Police warned some of these Occupy protesters you've got until midnight to get out of here. Well, that midnight deadline has come and gone and this protest continues some five and a half hours after that deadline.
We're checking back in live in Portland. Stay with us on this CNN SUNDAY MORNING.
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HOLMES: Well, we are just past the bottom of the hour on this CNN SUNDAY MORNING. Welcome back to you all. Thank you so much for spending part of your weekend here with us.
And this morning we have been keeping a close eye on what's happening on the streets of Portland, Oregon. Live pictures we have been watching. It is just past the bottom of the hour, 5:30 a.m. out there on the West Coast. And still people are out in the streets. They have lined the streets in protest. This was all a part of the Occupy encampment. Occupy protesters out there have been occupying a couple of parks in downtown.
But police gave those protesters until midnight local time to leave. Many of them did pack up and leave, but then they had so many other people show up and come out on the streets and become a part of the protest. Well police saying they are trying to avoid any kind of confrontation but police are out in their riot gear. They have told people get out of the streets or face arrest.
I talked to a police spokesman just a few minutes ago.
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LT. ROBERT KING, PORTLAND POLICE SPOKESMAN: And this was never about a confrontation with police. The Occupy Movement here locally and around the country and around the world has been about something all together different. We've not laid down a deadline, but you know, at a certain point in time it's going to start to get daylight, people are going to start making their way around the city. And so you know inevitably, this time, ultimately either we'd like for people to leave or you know something -- something along the lines of a confrontation might happen.
We're genuinely hoping that this matter resolves itself peacefully but we're obviously concerned given some of the things that have happened tonight.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
HOLMES: And it's worth noting, one police officer was injured, he had to be taken to the hospital but he did have non-life threatening injuries. According to police he was hit with some kind of projectile that somebody tossed there in the crowd.
Also important to note that police believe, well they do say that most of the people or a good number of them did pack up and leave the actual Occupy encampment but as it got later in the evening and many people were leaving their nights out, leaving bars at 2:00 p.m., or excuse me 2:00 a.m., they started to go down just to see what they could see and a lot of those people were the troublemakers, they weren't necessarily attached to the Occupy encampment.
But we continue to keep an eye on what's happening in the streets of Portland right now.
All right. 36 minutes past the hour.
Let me turn to the APEC Summit. The APEC Trade Summit is wrapping up in Honolulu today. President Obama, there he's hosting it. And he's hoping to create more jobs here in the country but the President called the U.S. lazy for not doing more to encourage foreign businesses to invest here.
Our White House correspondent, Dan Lothian with these details.
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DAN LOTHIAN, CNN WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Dressed for meetings with APEC world leaders and top CEOs, President Obama admitted he felt a bit out of place.
BARACK OBAMA, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: In all my years of living in Hawaii and visiting Hawaii, this is the first time that I've ever worn a suit.
LOTHIAN: And for those who still question his birthplace --
OBAMA: I know that was contested for a while, but I -- I can actually show you the hospital if you want to -- if you want to go down there.
LOTHIAN: With that light introduction, President Obama served up the main course, stressing increased trade with the Asia Pacific region and emphasizing the U.S. is open for business.
OBAMA: Well, we've been a little bit lazy I think over the last couple of decades. We've kind of taken for granted well, people will want to come here and we aren't out there hungry selling America and trying to attract new businesses into America.
LOTHIAN: Asked to comment on the President's characterization of the problem, the CEOs of Google, Johnson & Johnson and Caterpillar took a pass. But Eric Schmidt of Google said, "lazy" is not a word he would have used.
These business leaders do embrace the view that Asia offers big opportunities.
ERIC SCHMIDT, CEO, GOOGLE: The fastest way to create more jobs in America then is to increase our exports to the fastest growing parts of the world which happen to be in Asia.
LOTHIAN: Pushing trade and other shared global issues, President Obama met one on one with the leaders of China, Japan and Russia. Then hosted a dinner and attended a cultural program. (END VIDEOTAPE)
HOLMES: Our Dan Lothian is there, joins me from Honolulu. Dan, this will certainly turn some people off to hear the President of the United States saying that the country has been lazy in any way, form or fashion. It does deserve some context but is the administration standing by the President's comment?
LOTHIAN: In fact, they are. I talked to a senior administration official about the President's use of that word and this official defending the President, again reiterating that over the years a lot had been taken for granted and what this was about was quote, "Maximizing our advantage" about being aggressive in pursuing foreign investment inside the U.S.
They see this strategy as a way to not only boost the U.S. economy but also create more jobs, T.J.
HOLMES: What's next for the President? He's about to wrap up there. And then he's off.
LOTHIAN: That's right. I mean this is the final day, more meetings including working lunch with APEC leaders. There will be that family photo. And then President Obama will hold a news conference, a chance to answer questions not only about what happened here at APEC but also other issues.
And then even though he winds down this event today, the President will remain in Hawaii on Monday, but it's a down day for the President. The only thing so far in his schedule is a campaign fund- raiser.
HOLMES: All right, Dan Lothian there for us in Honolulu, thank you so much.
We're at 39 minutes past the hour. I got 20 minutes left here on CNN SUNDAY MORNING. And we're going to get a lot packed in.
Coming up next, allergies; if you have them, you know they can be brutal. I got some tips for you on that.
We're also keeping a close eye on what's happening in the streets of Portland right now as police clash with Occupy protesters. A live picture you're seeing there.
And also coming up in this next 20 minutes we're going to check in with our Candy Crowley, her show getting ready, "STATE OF THE UNION" at the top of the hour.
We'll get all of that to you in the next 20 minutes. Stay with us.
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HOLMES: All right, 41 minutes past the hour now.
For women with seasonal allergies, fall can be a season of misery. Here with this week's "Health for Her", our Elizabeth Cohen.
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LOVELLA REYNOLDS, ALLERGY SUFFERER: Hi, how are you?
ELIZABETH COHEN, CNN SENIOR MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Lovella Reynolds is not a big fan of this season.
REYNOLDS: Fall is the absolute worst, the absolute worst. I have a runny nose, I have burning, I have post-nasal drip with the scratchiness and the hoarseness in my voice.
COHEN: While millions of Americans suffer from seasonal allergies, each person may experience them differently. Symptoms may include itchy eyes, a stuffy nose, sore throat, cough and fatigue.
DR. EUGENE HURWITZ, ALLERGIST: Deep breathe.
COHEN: Dr. Eugene Hurwitz says allergies in the autumn are attributable to one main culprit.
HURWITZ: Ragweed blooming. And that's really when we see real problems with fall allergies.
COHEN: Just because you are an adult without allergies doesn't mean you're in the clear.
HURWITZ: If you've never had allergies before it's still possible that you could develop them. It's more common among people who have a family history of allergies.
COHEN: While nasal sprays and over-the-counter products may be effective for some, others may need to go on allergy shots or like Reynolds, require a combination of therapies. And it's working to give her some much-needed relief.
HURWITZ: Are they helping?
REYNOLDS: They are helping.
COHEN: With this week's "Health for Her," I'm Elizabeth Cohen.
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HOLMES: And we're 43 minutes past the hour now. You're just 17 minutes away from Candy Crowley and "STATE OF THE UNION." But you don't have to wait that long, she's going to join me right after the break with a preview of what she is working on and also we'll be talking about, yes, there was another Republican debate but once again it did not disappoint.
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HOLMES: About a quarter of the top of the hour now.
And you know, it was just painful to watch Republican presidential candidate Rick Perry as he struggled with that brain freeze at last week's debate.
But, he has still been able to make light of it, make fun of himself for it and he was doing it once again laughing about the whole situation. Take a listen.
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GOV. RICK PERRY (R-TX), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Yes, so tonight if I need a lifeline I was going to look to you. Ok?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I'll fill in the blanks.
PERRY: All right. Saw the doctor after that episode. The doc leaned over, he said, "You know, that's happened to everybody." He said, "Most of us just haven't done it in front of 4 million people."
REP. RON PAUL (R-TX), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: He did.
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HOLMES: All right. Let me bring in "STATE OF THE UNION" anchor Candy Crowley; Candy, good morning to you.
But that's a nice little moment, frankly. We see all these guys and lady go at each other on the stage, but backstage they seemed to get along and he was making light of that moment once again.
CANDY CROWLEY, CNN HOST, "STATE OF THE UNION": He was indeed. You sometimes wonder -- these are professional politicians, after all -- whether they know the mics are on and the cameras are looking at them. I think they do so they're quite careful about what they're looking at.
It is a good way to get the message out but the truth is that I think Rick Perry has really handled his Wednesday stumble pretty well. He's been out making fun of himself. He is, as you see, still kind of laughing about it. And honestly, it was -- this is -- usually the aftermath of a big mistake is usually what's so awful. This time he made a mistake, had this brain freeze during the debate, but the aftermath has been pretty good. He's handled it I think as well as can be expected.
HOLMES: Are you getting at this -- maybe Rick Perry, Herman Cain and the Republican candidates today on your show?
CROWLEY: Well, we are going to have a chat with the head of the Republican Party, Reince Priebus. So yes, we will in fact be discussing but in some ways it is interesting to talk to the chairman of the party at this point because in essence, they're kind of all his children --
HOLMES: Yes.
CROWLEY: -- and he's not supposed to, you know, show any favoritism. So we'll see if we can get any hint at all. HOLMES: Ok. I have to ask you -- I'm going to ask what you have on your show -- but what did you make of this Michele Bachmann episode with this e-mail that went out, an e-mail that went to one of her staffers accidentally from a CBS guy saying essentially she wasn't going to get a lot of questions at the debate because she hasn't polled well, which is I guess -- we all would have said that ahead of time. If you're at 4 percent in the national polls you're not going to get a whole lot of questions and the questions will be a focal point but is she trying to use this to her advantage now?
CROWLEY: Well, sure, because America loves an underdog. And so any time you can show particularly in the Republican Party that A, you are an underdog, and, B, the media is trying to not give you a voice, that's always a good thing in the Republican Party. So sure, why not turn it to your advantage?
It doesn't change the facts around that she is now polling at four percent where at one point she kind of led the field. It is a long journey back. But nonetheless, I think folks do -- particularly Republicans -- will say to you not a single vote has been cast yet and the media's writing her off. So you know, yes, it plays well to the folks that she's talking to right now.
HOLMES: All right. Last thing -- tell us what you got coming up here in about 12 minutes.
CROWLEY: We will be talking to Jeb Hensarling, who is one of the co- chairmen of the debt commission to kind of try to figure out whether they're going to make their deadline in ten days from now. We are told they are at a stand-still so we'll see how that's going on.
We're going to talk to Tom Coburn, a Republican, as well as Mark Warner, a Democrat. Both of them worked on the so-called Gang of Six, Republicans and Democrats who tried to come up with a solution. They formed a lot of friendships but didn't come up with a deal that either could sell to their respective parties. We want to see if we can get any hints from them.
Also we are starting a series called "America's Cities". We went out to L.A., talked to Mayor Villaraigosa about how he is handling the lowering receipts that he's getting in the city, the kinds of things he's doing, and also get his take on Washington.
HOLMES: Candy, always good to see you. We'll see you again here in just a few minutes at the top of the hour. Candy Crowley and "STATE OF THE UNION" coming your way 9:00 a.m., 6:00 Pacific; so again, that's just about 11 minutes from now. Don't go anywhere.
Also, soon Catholic mass going to sound a bit different? Forget what you heard the past 40 years. We'll tell you what's changing and why in our "Faces of Faith" next.
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HOLMES: Well, about eight minutes off the top of the hour now. And to our "Faces of Faith" segment: there's a major change coming for Catholics by the end of the month which means no more reciting the mass by heart. Our Athena Jones takes a look at how and why these changes are coming.
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ATHENA JONES, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Big changes are coming for America's 70 million Catholics as a new translation of the mass goes into effect November 27th. The revised words and phrases will provide a more literal translation from the Latin. We spoke with experts and ordinary Catholics about the coming changes.
MSGR. RICK HILGARTNER, U.S. CONFERENCE OF CATHOLIC BISHOPS: For us this is a pretty landmark moment. Probably the biggest change that we're seeing in the way we celebrate mass in almost 40 years.
JONES: About a decade in the making, the changes to the text are meant to provide a more literal translation of the original Latin. Monsignor Rick Hilgartner who is helping the church with the transition says priests and parishioners will have to adjust to the new language.
HILGARTNER: So it will sound a little bit more formal; the language will sound far more rich. In many cases, it won't sound like every day casually-spoken English.
This used to say, "And also with you" and now it says, "And with your spirit".
JONES: And where Catholics once said, "Lord, I am not worthy to receive you," they will now say, "Lord, I am not worthy that you should enter under my roof."
Catholic book stores like this one at the National Shrine are stocking up on the new text and parishioners say they're ready.
THERESA LEYVA, CATHOLIC PARISHIONER: I think they're subtle enough that we'll have to pay attention and re-learn but I think it will be a great chance to really think about what the prayers mean again.
SARA HULSE, CATHOLIC UNIVERSITY STUDENT: Each word has great value and so we don't just like throw a word out, with you, with your soul, with your spirit. There is a specific reason for each word.
JONES: Still, the new translation could lead to confusion for some Catholics used to reciting the mass from memory.
FR. MARK KNESTOUT, ARCHDIOCESE OF WASHINGTON: At first, people might have some apprehension.
JONES: Father Mark Knestout with the Archdiocese of Washington has led 22 workshops for clergy and church leaders to explain the changes.
KNESTOUT: And there have been critics that might say well we don't like exactly the words that were chosen and things like that. But to understand the process, then one would understand maybe have less of an apprehension or lack of -- or less of a criticism. JONES: churches will provide pew cards to help parishioners learn the new responses. Spanish, French and other languages will also have new translations.
The goal is to unify the world's Catholics around a common, more accurate version of the mass.
HILGARTNER: This is not just a moment for us to get people to say new words and learn new responses. So much as it is a chance to teach about what we're worshipping.
JONES: All this means that Catholics who only go to church a few times a year may find themselves scratching their heads during mass this Christmas season. Athena Jones, CNN, Washington.
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HOLMES: And you can find out more on our belief blog at cnn.com/belief. Share your thoughts there.
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HOLMES: All right. Just a couple of minutes away "STATE OF THE UNION" with Candy Crowley coming your way at the top of the hour.
But first, you know what; first, let's say hello to Reynolds one more time and wrap this thing up for us weather-wise. What's going on? What do we need to know today?
REYNOLDS WOLF, AMS METEOROLOGIST: We're watching a big, big storm that's moving through the Rockies. In fact, if you look at it right here, plain and simple here's what we expect today. Wind gusts topping 60 miles an hour. Yesterday we had some wind gusts near 100 miles per hour and in fact it exceeded 100 miles per hour.
Take a look at this, this is just mind boggling. In parts of Colorado, 113-mile-an-hour gusts; at Pike's Peak, 109; we could see more of the same today all due to the big storm system that's going to be pushing through the Rockies, even the northern Rockies could see snow. Along the entire range you could see anywhere from say three, maybe even four feet of snowfall. That should begin to taper off into Monday.
Eastern Seaboard looks beautiful with high temperatures that are going to be warming up, mainly into the 50's and 60's in a few spots: 63 in Washington, D.C.; 66 in Chicago; 56 in Albuquerque; 80s for much of Texas; 80 in New Orleans; 46 in Billings; 65 in San Francisco; 50 in Portland; Seattle with 48.
T.J. -- your turn.
HOLMES: Thank you Reynolds. And speaking of Portland as he just mentioned there, we are still keeping our eye on what's happening out there. Police have been in a standoff with protesters out here for the past several hours. We've been watching this since we've been on the air here the past several hours but it is now coming up on 6:00 a.m. Police had given these Occupy protesters until midnight local time to get out of there.
That was six hours ago. Some of them left but then other people started to show up and now they've been in a stand-off with these protesters who have been in the streets the past several hours.
I did talk to a public information officer at the Portland Police Department a short time ago who says this is going to have to come to a head at some point. They have told people get out of the streets, get out of the roads or you are going to face arrest. He did not have a time line for when the police might move into action but police have been out there in riot gear for the past several hours. For the most part it's been mainly peaceful but still police are worried about some kind of confrontation.
We thank you for being with us on this Sunday morning.
Right now, Candy.
