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Why did George Tenet Really Resign? Will Smarty Jones win the Triple Crown?
Aired June 05, 2004 - 09:00 ET
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BETTY NGUYEN, CNN ANCHOR: Well, good morning to you. This is CNN SATURDAY MORNING, and I'm Betty Nguyen.
ANDREW GRIFFIN, CNN ANCHOR: And Andrew Griffin. Good morning. It's 6:00 a.m. on the West Coast. Thanks for starting your day with us.
Here is what's coming up this hour.
Sixty years ago, they stepped out of the English Channel and into history.
CHRISTIANE AMANPOUR, CNN CORRESPONDENT: I'm Christiane Amanpour at the American war cemetery in Colleville-sur-Mer with news of the president's arrival in France today and news of all of the commemorations of 60 years ago.
GRIFFIN: Also, the CIA in the crosshairs of a blistering new Senate report. Was it this report that led the CIA director George Tenet's Sunday decision to leave?
And later, the race of a lifetime. Smarty Jones will get two and a half minutes today to prove he's the world's fastest horse.
All that and much more, but first, Betty has today's headlines.
COLLINS: News this morning about former president Ronald Reagan. The White House has been informed the former president's health has deteriorated. Reagan is 93-years-old. He has been out of the public eye for the past decade since revealing he has Alzheimer's disease. Reagan has lived longer than any other American president.
An armed man who took his bulldozer on a rampage through Grandy (ph), Colorado, has been found dead in the steel-reinforced cab of the vehicle. Police say he committed suicide. The bulldozer destroyed or damaged several downtown buildings in the city. Police say the driver was angry about a zoning decision.
Pope John Paul II arrived in Switzerland early this morning. The 84-year-old pontiff made the trip after meeting Friday with President Bush. It is the pope's first pilgrimage out of Italy in the last nine months and his first visit to Switzerland in two decades. During the visit, the pope will meet with hundreds of former members of the elite Swiss Guard who have protected all of the popes since the 1500s. Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld is in Bangladesh after attending a regional security conference in Singapore. Rumsfeld is asking help from Asian nations in fighting international terrorism. He says the fight against ideological extremism is just getting started.
In Iraq, a roadside bomb exploded this morning in Baghdad, killing one American soldier and wounding three others. That blast occurred as a U.S. convoy was passing. American troops blocked off the site, and helicopters hovered overhead.
GRIFFIN: Our top story this hour, President Bush brushing up on the romantic languages. He says Ciao and Arrivederci to his Italian hosts as he wraps up his two-day tour of Italy and now moves on to France.
Bush and Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi began their meetings with firm handshakes and a solid grip of support for their mutual intentions in Iraq. The two leaders praised the past and present relationship between these two countries, and both reaffirmed their commitment to stay the course in the war in Iraq.
In a joint press conference, Bush and Berlusconi talked about the proposed U.N. resolution concerning Iraq's future.
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GEORGE W. BUSH, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Members of the U.N. Security Council and Iraq's new leaders are working toward a new resolution that will express international support for Iraq's interim government. The Security Council resolution will reaffirm the world's security commitment to the Iraqi nation and encourage other U.N. members to join in helping the Iraqi people as they establish a representative government.
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GRIFFIN: President Bush will be among many people at Normandy tomorrow to mark the day 60 years ago that was the turning point of World War II.
CNN's Christiane Amanpour is at the American cemetery right now, on the bluff above Omaha Beach. Good morning, Christiane.
AMANPOUR: Good morning.
And it was Omaha Beach that saw the bloodiest fighting and the most casualties that day, June 4, 1944.
And the president of the United States has now arrived in France. We don't yet have those pictures, but we will be bringing them to you soon. He has arrived. He will today meet with President Jacques Chirac. And unlike his meetings with Silvio Berlusconi, with whom he agreed on the war in Iraq, Jacques Chirac, as you know, never agreed about that war and still does not believe that it was the right thing to do. In addition, 85 percent of the French people don't agree with the war in Iraq, and there are expected to be protesters in the streets of Paris today.
But President Chirac, we're told, does want to have meetings with President Bush, and he will do that today, in which they want to talk about the future, they want to move forward, they want it try to bring something positive for future relations between the two countries and they're working closely together on this U.N. resolution that will govern the eventual handover on June 30 and the future interim government and what goes on in Iraq after the occupation ends officially June 30.
So that's for the leaders. Here, at the American wartime cemetery, and all around Normandy, the feelings are very different. Here, 60 years on, people say that we do not forget our liberators. We thank them. We remember the courage. We remember the sacrifice. And we know that if it had not been for those Americans, British, Canadians, and other veterans, we would not live today in peace, freedom, and democracy.
Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder of Germany is also invited here. This is the first time that a serving German chancellor is invited to commemorate these D-Day celebrations, for the obvious reasons.
Ahead of his visit here, Chancellor Schroeder gave an interview to French television in which he expressed for the first time in 60 years the shame for many of the Nazi actions here, but most particularly for something that happened shortly after D-Day in a small village in southwestern France called Oradour-sur-Glan. Then, SS troops stormed through the village and massacred more than 600 French civilians. Amongst them were men, women, and even children, some 200 children.
As I say, Schroeder expressed his shame and sorrow for that massacre. And it only fully, fully came to light about 10 years ago on the 50th anniversary of D-Day. And that's when we went to Oradour- sur-Glan, and we reported on the survivors and the terrible, terrible massacre that had taken place there.
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AMANPOUR (voice-over): They say the sun rarely shines on Oradour-sur-Glan. Here, the rain and the tears mix freely.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Makes me want to cry.
AMANPOUR: For as British infantryman Jim Muggleton landed in Normandy 50 years ago, 500 kilometers away, an SS unit was storming through the tiny village of Oradour trying to reinforce German troops on the coast, with orders to terrorize the countryside on the way. And so on June 10, 1944, the Nazis rounded up the civilians on the village green. They separated the women and children from the men, locking about 190 men in the village barns.
Marcel D'Arcure (ph) was 20 then. He was one of only six male survivors.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE (through translator): We were over there. They were here, five soldiers with machine guns. We heard a shot outside, an order, and all of a sudden, they started firing. I was lucky, very lucky that day. Two bullets in my legs. Two in my thighs. I was among the first to fall, and all the others fell on top of me. They protected me.
AMANPOUR: Then the Germans covered their victims with straw and wood and set the fires that would eventually destroy the whole village. Somehow, Marcel and five others managed to escape. Today, a plaque commemorates what they did.
The women and children were not spared. In the village church, some as young as this one were being shot and burned too. In all, 205 children were killed, nearly 300 women. Only one managed to escape, somehow scrambling through a window above the altar. She too is remembered forever.
Jean Lamore (ph) is guardian of this village-turned-museum. He was lucky back in 1944.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE (through translator): I was not yet born. My mother was pregnant with me. And June 10, my parents were invited to a wedding in the next village, so they left here an hour before the Nazis arrived. They left behind my grandparents and great- grandparents, and my sister, who was 4 years old. They never saw them again.
AMANPOUR: All that's left of Jean's family is this memorial in the cemetery. Because e everything was burned, there are no remains, just a few bones and the ashes of an entire village mixed forever.
And so nothing has changed. Rusted cars parked 50 years ago, a bicycle, a sewing machine, and signs showing what once was a cafe and a butcher's shop. No one lives here. It's meant to be a warning.
But humanity's thirst for the inhuman has not been quenched. You don't have to search far to see that.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I think what's going on in the world right now, in Rwanda and Bosnia, and all the other hot spots that, well, you know, we got to change, now, for future generations.
AMANPOUR: And so in Oradour, they ask visitors for silence, for some respect. Above all, they ask us to remember.
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AMANPOUR: And that is what people are remembering this weekend, the beginning of the end of the barbarism of Nazism in Europe, the beginning of democracy reconquering Europe.
And we will be here all this weekend with special coverage of the 60th anniversary of D-Day. GRIFFIN: So painful, six decades later. Thank you, Christiane. And we look forward to your live coverage from Normandy honoring D-Day that begins at 3:00 a.m. Eastern, hosted by CNN's Christiane Amanpour and Wolf Blitzer.
Plenty more on the D-Day anniversary still ahead this morning.
NGUYEN: Coming up, one veteran's account of that bloody day 60 years ago, and how he helps give back to his fellow soldiers today. You don't want to miss this inspiring story.
And what is next for the CIA? Director George Tenet's resignation raises plenty of questions about the spy agency. We'll take a look at what's ahead.
ROB MARCIANO, CNN METEOROLOGIST: And coming up weatherwise, it's going to be wet across the Northeast today, and there'll be more storms that fire up across the central Plains. In between, not too shabby a Saturday. We'll go over your forecast in just a little bit. CNN SATURDAY MORNING will be right back.
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NGUYEN: Federal prosecutors have interviewed Vice President Dick Cheney as part of an investigation into the leaking of information about a CIA operative. The vice president was questioned about a possible White House leak, which disclosed the identity of Joseph Wilson's wife as an undercover CIA operative. Wilson had accused the Bush administration of making unfounded claims about Iraq's weapons of mass destruction. The White House has denied any involvement in the leak of information.
GRIFFIN: On Capitol Hill, three reports are expected to hammer the CIA for bungling intelligence before and after September 11. A 400-page report by the Senate Intelligence Committee presented to the CIA for comment last month is said to be the harshest of the three.
Congressional correspondent Joe Johns reports on that.
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JOE JOHNS, CNN CONGRESSIONAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): The Senate report is being called a stinging indictment of CIA failures, so harsh it's seen by some senators as one reason George Tenet resigned. Publicly, the Intelligence Committee chairman calls it unflattering.
SEN. PAT ROBERTS (R), CHAIR, INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE: I think that the community is in somewhat in denial over the full extent, and I emphasize full extent, of the shortcoming of its work on Iraq.
JOHNS: The report is especially critical of the October 2002 national intelligence estimate detailing evidence the CIA said showed Saddam Hussein had chemical and biological weapons and was trying to rebuild its nuclear weapons program. Among the findings, committee sources say, claims were based on unfounded assumptions. Multiple names were used for the same source, making the evidence look stronger than it was. U.S. intelligence never interviewed sources who said Iraq had mobile weapons labs, and warnings one of those sources was a fabricator were ignored.
That intelligence about mobile labs, now apparently wrong, was touted by Secretary of State Powell at the United Nations.
ROBERT BAER, FORMER CIA OFFICER: Sometimes in terrorism, you, if there's an imminent threat, you take unsourced information and disseminate it. But something to justify a preemptive war is totally unacceptable.
JOHNS: The CIA, which is adding its remarks to the report and taking out classified material, had no comment.
Before George Tenet's resignation, Chairman Roberts suggested that intelligence failures were so serious, someone should be fired or disciplined.
(on camera): Roberts expects to release the report publicly as early as this month. Then the committee begins work on what could be an equally damaging report focusing on the policymakers and whether they hyped the threat of weapons of mass destruction to make the case for war.
Joe Johns, CNN, Capitol Hill.
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NGUYEN: Deputy CIA director John McLaughlin will become acting chief once Tenet steps down July 11.
So what's next for the spy agency? In our Washington bureau is Graham Allison of Harvard University, former assistant secretary of defense and a leading analyst of national security and defense policy.
We want to welcome you this morning.
GRAHAM ALLISON, FORMER ASSISTANT DEFENSE SECRETARY: Glad to be here.
NGUYEN: Let's first talk about the big question everyone's asking. Who will replace Tenet? A lot of names being tossed around, Frank Keating, Tom Keane, Tom Ridge. Let's talk about each of these individuals and who else you're hearing.
ALLISON: Well, my bet that is nobody will replace Tenet for the interim. That is, that John McLaughlin, fortunately a able veteran, will be in the job as acting director through the election. I think the Bush administration will find it too difficult to have the confirmation process run before that.
And I -- my bet is that what will happen is that the administration will announce some major reorganization of the intelligence community that will become part of the Congressional debate, and that will run through the rest of the year and into the new year.
NGUYEN: Now, we know McLaughlin is going to be in there for the interim. But as to that first question, who are you hearing will be the permanent replacement for Tenet?
ALLISON: Well, the permanent replacement will depend a little bit on what happens on November 2. If it were Bush, you may go in one direction. If you were Kerry, you might go in another direction.
I think people like Tom Keane or Ridge, but Ridge is just doing a good job, you know, with the problems that he has already, would be potential candidates. But I think it's a little early to be handicapping a horse race in which, in the interim, we're going to have John McLaughlin, and I think we're lucky for that.
NGUYEN: How ready is he for taking control right now at such a critical time?
ALLISON: Well, that's a very good question. I think George Tenet has played a crucial role in the war on terrorism as the veteran among all the other parties. Mueller is relatively new to his job. Ridge has only been there for a year.
So George has been around the track, and for the meetings, he's been the crucial person. I think in the absence of both George Tenet and his deputy for operations, who's also resigning, there will be a question of whether we will be able to get to the battle stations and be prepared, particularly at a time when CIA and FBI and others are warning that another terrorist attack may be in the offing before the election.
NGUYEN: Will McLaughlin make any big changes while he's there in the interim?
ALLISON: I think with an acting director, with this torrent of criticism and some serious analysis of the dysfunctions of CIA and the other intelligence agencies, people will be trying to hold the fort and, you know, circle the wagons and fend off the criticism. And they'll find it difficult to do their job. So I think this is a very dangerous period.
I also think that while I think George Tenet has provided great public service to the nation, that he's been at the helm of an agency that's been responsible for grave failures. So his standing up and taking responsibility, I applaud, but if this is the beginning of a new ethic of responsibility in the administration, in which people stand up and take responsibility for their failures, his will be the first, not the last, resignation from the Bush national security team.
NGUYEN: Former assistant secretary of defense Graham Allison, now with Harvard University. We thank you for your time and your insight this morning.
ALLISON: Thank you. GRIFFIN: Well, it is two down, one to go for Smarty Jones.
JOSIE BURKE, CNN SPORTS CORRESPONDENT: I'm Josie Burke at Belmont Park, where today is the day for Smarty Jones. He'll try to become the 12th horse in history to win the Triple Crown. I'll have a Belmont Stakes preview when CNN SATURDAY MORNING comes right back after this.
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NGUYEN: Rob, we still have a little time, but Smarty Jones is hoping for some nice weather today. No rain.
MARCIANO: Is it, did you talk to him?
NGUYEN: I did. I, you know, I speak that?
MARCIANO: You talked to the -- You didn't know that about her, Drew?
NGUYEN: (UNINTELLIGIBLE).
GRIFFIN: She's very smart. Smarty Betty...
NGUYEN: Yes.
GRIFFIN: ... talked to Smarty Jones.
MARCIANO: My feed just went out, so I couldn't hear (UNINTELLIGIBLE)...
GRIFFIN: Oh, that's a good one.
NGUYEN: Oh, but it was good, (UNINTELLIGIBLE).
GRIFFIN: Good one.
NGUYEN: (UNINTELLIGIBLE).
MARCIANO: Entertaining as always.
We start you off with what's going on around the rest of the country. There's going to be some rainfall, looks like, across the Northeast. So Smarty Jones, maybe you live in this highly populated corridor. So plan for kind of a soggy Saturday. It won't rain all day long all the time, but there'll certainly be a lot of showers around.
Across the midsection, we'll see sun break out through Chicago, and a line of showers and storms will fire up across the central plain. Hot across the Southwest and some showers across the Pacific Northwest. Sixty-three degrees in New York, or 61 in New York, 63 in Boston. Rain arriving there later today. Atlanta, 84, Charlotte really nice as well, lower 80s and low humidity. Miami will see some showers and storms fire up. Detroit, Chicago, will be dry today, thunderstorms tomorrow, and Minneapolis will see the thunderstorms roll through throughout the afternoon.
Dallas also a possibility of seeing some strong storms today. Denver will be a high of about 82, 72 in Los Angeles, 72 in San Francisco, and Seattle will see some showers as well.
All right, we roll to Belmont. Here's the forecast. It will be breezy and wet. Temperatures will be in the lower 60s, so not all that pleasant. Definitely have to dress for the occasion. Missed the Doppler radar out of New York, and not a whole lot of rain showing up. But at last check, it was raining in JFK and Belmont, right about there. So there are showers surrounding the race track. And I expect this radar to fill in.
Drew and Betty, back to you. Don't ask me a question. I can't hear a thing.
NGUYEN: We'll just move right along.
MARCIANO: Bad batteries.
GRIFFIN: Easy out there, Rob.
It's been 26 years since Affirmed won the Triple Crown, but that doesn't mean there haven't been close calls. In fact, in both of the last two years, a horse has come into the Belmont with a chance at the crown. But will this year bring a stronger finish from Smarty Jones?
For the latest on the race and on Smarty's chances this morning, we go live to Belmont, New York, and our Josie Burke. Hi, Josie.
BURKE: Hi, hi, Drew.
I also want to give you the latest on the weather. I can confirm it is sprinkling right now here in Elmont, New York, and, again, we don't know what it's going to be like at 6:38 post time for the Belmont Stakes.
But we do know one thing. The weather might have an affect on the size of the crowd. They're expecting over 100,000 people, but we don't believe it will have much of an effect on the chances for Smarty Jones to win the Triple Crown, and that's because in his short career he has already won twice on a muddy track.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It looks like it could be real bad. You know, I hope we don't have to go through what we went through in Kentucky. And, you know, I was really hoping for a dry, fast track, and, you know, for the people more than anything. But, you know, he's -- my horse is a good horse, and I think he'll run on pretty much anything.
(END VIDEO CLIP) BURKE: But just in case Smarty Jones needed to get even better acclimated to the water, he got a really good bath yesterday in preparation for the Belmont Stakes. And afterward his trainer, John Servis, said at that point in time that the horse already had his game face on, and that's really saying something for a horse that doesn't really stand out until it's time to run.
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STEWART ELLIOTT, JOCKEY, SMARTY JONES: Besides being talented, he has everything it takes. He has the heart. He has the desire to win. He loves what he does. And he's good at it.
JOHN SERVIS, TRAINER, SMARTY JONES: I mean, he doesn't look like a super horse, but when you put that bridle on him and you lead him to the paddock, he transforms into, as my son would say, a beast. And, you know, he just -- I don't know what it is that does that to him, but he's just got a special -- something very special to him that turns him into a machine.
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BURKE: The last horse to win the Triple Crown was Affirmed in 1978. So there's this 26-year drought. Maybe that's why there's a real air of anticipation. Today is kind of like, in the sports world, the World Series, the Super Bowl, all wrapped up in one. But what makes it different is that, I mentioned there are going to be about 100,000 people here or more. Pretty much all of them want to see the same outcome, and that's Smarty Jones win the Triple Crown, Drew.
GRIFFIN: Josie Burke at the Belmont in Elmont. Thank you very much.
NGUYEN: And if Smarty Jones does win today, you can bet he's going to get a lot of votes for our e-mail question of the day. We've been asking you all morning long, What feat do you think is the most amazing in history? And we've got some answers already.
A.B. in New Jersey writes, "There's no greater feat in sports than Steffi Graf's (ph) golden slam in 1988. She won all four grand slam tournaments and the Olympic gold in the same year. This represents total and sustained domination in tennis over the top women professionals in the world at the time."
GRIFFIN: Bill in Wilmington, Delaware, "To win the Indy 500, hop on a plane and fly to Charlotte and win the World 600 NASCAR race, that would be a feat few have tried. None have succeeded."
NGUYEN: Oh, and you have to check this one out. This person writes, "I think the most impressive feat in sports are Shaq's. Aren't they about a size 18?"
Oh, Joe, you're such a comedian.
But we do appreciate all of your answers to our e-mail question of the day. GRIFFIN: Actually...
NGUYEN: Size 18...
GRIFFIN: ... 22 (UNINTELLIGIBLE).
NGUYEN: See?
GRIFFIN: (UNINTELLIGIBLE).
NGUYEN: Joe, you're wrong, 22. Even better, or an even bigger feat.
Now for an update on our top stories.
President Bush has just arrived in Paris from Rome. He'll meet with French President Jacques Chirac this afternoon. Tomorrow Mr. Bush and other European leaders will commemorate the 60th anniversary of the D-Day invasion in Normandy.
Back in the U.S., federal prosecutors have interviewed Vice President Dick Cheney in a CIA leak investigation. Authorities are trying to determine who disclosed the identity of an undercover CIA operative. That operative's husband has accused the administration of making unfounded claims about Iraq's weapons program.
GRIFFIN: And up next, Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry puts his spin on the recent job numbers.
And for years, he's served one of the nation's most heralded newspapers. Today "The Washington Post"'s Ben Bradlee pays a visit to The Novak Zone.
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NGUYEN: D-Day remembered 60 years later. You're about to meet a man who was wounded on the beach and landed there -- or laid there, I should say, for two days. And even now, he still does what he can to help out the people around him.
GRIFFIN: Welcome back. That story's coming up.
First, though, the headlines at this hour.
White House sources say Ronald Reagan's health is deteriorating. The former president has been ill for many years with Alzheimer's disease. Sources say his health declined significantly over the past week or so. Mr. Reagan is 93 years old, making him the oldest former president in U.S. history. Stay with CNN for the very latest on President Ronald Reagan's condition.
President Bush arrived in Paris a short time ago for talks with French President Jacques Chirac, a critic of the Iraq war. Mr. Bush hopes to improve relations strained by the U.S.-led invasion. Tomorrow the president will take part in activities commemorating the 60th anniversary of D-Day. Britain's Prince Charles is also in Normandy for the observance of D-Day. He took part in a number of memorial ceremonies today to pay tribute to allied nations that lost lives to liberate Europe. He also unveiled a full-size replica of a glider used by British paratroopers in a surprise attack.
NGUYEN: This year marks the 30th anniversary of President Richard Nixon's resignation. Ben Bradlee saw it all happen from his office at "The Washington Post," and it was his leadership during Watergate that made him one of the most influential newspaper editors of our time. Ben Bradlee is this week's guest in The Novak Zone.
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ROBERT NOVAK, HOST: Welcome to The Novak Zone.
We're with Ben Bradlee, vice president at large of "The Washington Post," one of the great editors of our time.
Ben, it was 30 years ago that so many high officials of the Nixon administration went to prison. Richard Nixon was driven out of office. All because of a couple of guys named Woodward and Bernstein on "The Washington Post," and you, Ben Bradlee, as their editor.
Do you think they would have gotten away with all that stuff if it wasn't for your -- for this small group of people at "The Washington Post"?
BEN BRADLEE, VICE PRESIDENT AT LARGE, "THE WASHINGTON POST": I'm not sure that they would, but they, it would have taken much longer. I think the thing that put the "Post" in front was that no, none of these big-shot national reporters could find their way to the courthouse. It was a local story at the beginning for the first few days. You know, everything that happened in the -- it was in low court, this was a low district court.
And then Woodward got on a roll. And he was, he's hard to stop when he gets on a roll.
NOVAK: Did you have any trouble sleeping nights when you were relying on two green reporters, one, no experience at all, almost fired?
BRADLEE: No, because by the time it really got serious, where I could get some sense of the dimension of this and the possibilities and the gravamen of it, they had proved themselves pretty much to me. They, their stories were right. And that's why we didn't turn it over to some of the big-shot national reporters.
NOVAK: Journalism has changed so much. We have these 24-hour cable networks, we're on one now. We have, I mean, all these Web sites. Do you think that this could have happened today? One newspaper, a small bunch of people, all fit in one room, to pull off a story like this, as an exclusive, really?
BRADLEE: That's what's different. I don't think that -- I mean, now, after Watergate, the press corps is never going to let one paper get a big lead on a story the way we got and become hard to catch. That's the big change in Washington in my time, the size of the press corps.
Remember when Roosevelt held a press conference, there were 11 people there, 11 men and May Craig with that big square hat, and that's it. Now, my God, that's -- you know, you can get 1,000 people to a press conference.
NOVAK: Is it better now? Better that -- reporting better, the journalism better?
BRADLEE: Sure.
NOVAK: You think so?
BRADLEE: Yes. I think there are some excesses in journalism that didn't exist then, but it's more honest, and the press is hard to fool now. You can fool them for 20 minutes. You can't fool them for long.
NOVAK: Deep Throat, the big Bob Woodward source, you had misgivings about anonymous sources all through your life.
BRADLEE: All my life.
NOVAK: Yes.
BRADLEE: All my life. I think it's -- I've campaigned to, if you can't name the person, at least narrow it down to male, female, Army, Navy, State -- you know. But if that's what you've got and the information is worth it, it's plainly the right thing to do.
NOVAK: So you, so, so you believe, though, I mean, you've been asked this question 2,000 times, but I'll ask it 2001, that there is a Deep Throat.
BRADLEE: I know there is.
NOVAK: It isn't a composite, (UNINTELLIGIBLE)...
BRADLEE: I know there is. I know there is. And I know that he has withstood the test of time. I mean, he was right. Now, Woodward -- what, how they used the information from Deep Throat was proper, and it was principled.
NOVAK: I'm writing my memoirs, and (UNINTELLIGIBLE)...
BRADLEE: Good luck.
NOVAK: And I look at all our old papers, Ben, and I find that the page one of "The Washington Post" 30 years ago had a lot less interpretation and opinion on it than it does today. Does that bother you at all, that change?
BRADLEE: Well, here's what television forced the press to do, was to put in, right after the lead, what we call a so-what paragraph. You've got to tell the reader why the hell this is important. And that's the paragraph that leads people to say that these -- that the press has an opinion. It's, it shouldn't be an opinion, but it should say that this is why this newspaper thinks this story is important.
NOVAK: And now, the big question for Ben Bradlee of "The Washington Post."
Ben, you performed a great feat and a great task for journalism with the Pentagon -- publication of the Pentagon Papers and winning that in court. Are you worried that in this period of the war on terrorism that there is going to be -- there are going to be restrictions imposed on the news medium?
BRADLEE: I'm always worried about that, because there always is. It's been a steady battle to police that, not resist it automatically. But, you know, the press and editors are not as irresponsible as it is suggested by the people who are always whining about the press.
Most of the -- my generation all had security clearances. We were all in the war. We did, we all carried on. So our patriotism is, you know, there's a track record of it. It's national embarrassment that keeps the national security debate alive, because the government says, Oh, my God, you can't go there, you can't take a look at that, because they're scared they'll get caught doing something that's not quite straight.
I think that, you know, the national security argument doesn't -- almost never holds up. It does occasionally, and that's the exception that keeps you on your toes.
NOVAK: Ben Bradlee, thank you very much.
And thank you for being in The Novak Zone.
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GRIFFIN: As the economy picks up steam, more companies are saying help wanted, and more people are saying, I accept. The positive new jobs numbers are out, and the political reactions are now in.
CNN's Candy Crowley has that.
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CANDY CROWLEY, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Nine hundred thousand new jobs in three months. What could be wrong with that?
SEN. JOHN KERRY (D-MA), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: You know, I saw that there were 240,000 jobs created last month. That's terrific.
CROWLEY: That's not all, of course. John Kerry and company insist the economy is still a potent issue, particularly in hard-hit Midwestern battleground states.
KERRY: But guess what? There's still 1.9 net million jobs lost over the course of this presidency.
CROWLEY: And especially when the rhetoric is sprinkled with the inference that George Bush cares only about the rich.
KERRY: There's still too many people who can't afford health care, can't afford to go to college. There are too many people struggling, while at the top end people get ahead.
CROWLEY: That stagnant job market Democrats hope to hang around the president is not stagnant anymore, and the failing economy has been booming for months. Surely, it is a selling point for the president, but not the only point for John Kerry.
KERRY: I believe that over the course of these last few years, the leader of the free world, the United States of America, has lost respect and influence. Alliances are broken, and people are questioning both our values and our ideals. I intend to restore America's respect and influence.
CROWLEY: Even as the economy has improved, the war in Iraq has proven more troublesome. Last year's conventional wisdom that George Bush's strong point would be his role as world leader, his weak point the economy, looks less wise at this moment in 2004. We are happy, insisted one Kerry strategist, to make our points on either topic.
Candy Crowley, CNN, Minneapolis.
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NGUYEN: You've likely had a busy week. No time to keep up with the top stories? Well, you have come to the right place. Time to rewind.
On Tuesday, Iraqi authorities ushered in a new interim government. The new body replaces the U.S.-backed Iraqi Governing Council, which was dissolved to make way for the new leaders. The new government will be in charge from the time the coalition hands over power at the end of this month until January's elections for a new transitional government.
Wednesday a top U.S. general said Army soldiers who are in units due to deploy cannot retire until their tour is over. The stop-loss measure will prevent thousands of more soldiers from leaving the service as planned.
A shakeup in the intelligence world on Thursday. A CIA chief, George Tenet, announced his resignation for what he calls personal reasons. Tenet will stay on the job until July 11, when Deputy CIA Director John McLaughlin becomes the agency's acting chief.
Also on Thursday, OPEC agreed to raise oil output by 2 million barrels a day beginning July 1. Don't go racing to the pump, though. Here's the fine print. The cartel already exceeds its daily quota by 3 million barrels, raising questions about the decision's impact on soaring gas prices.
Tomorrow, we'll fast forward to the week ahead and tell you which stories will grab the spotlight.
Sixty years later, another veteran remembers his experience on the beaches of Normandy.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I laid there on the beach two days and nights without food or water. An aid man came by and looked me over for bleeding and so forth.
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NGUYEN: Later, after D-Day, when CNN SATURDAY MORNING returns.
But first, more of the images we don't often get to see from another war. These, from Iraq.
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NGUYEN: Well, warships and ferries left Port Smouth (ph), England, today bound for the Normandy coast of France. Aboard were British D-Day veterans, who will be greeted by Royal Marines near Assorde (ph) beach, one of the beaches where British troops landed some 60 years ago.
Prince Charles is one of the dignitaries on hand in France to watch today's reenactment of paratroopers on D-Day. Allied troops were dropped behind enemy lines in the predawn hours before the invasion. Their role 60 years ago were vital to the success of D-Day by capturing key bridges and towns and destroying German defenses.
GRIFFIN: Of the five D-Day beaches, Omaha, one of the two where American troops landed, was by far the deadliest. Many Americans did not survive June 6, 1944, on Omaha Beach.
CNN's Brian Todd found one man who did.
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BRIAN TODD, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): This man, 86 years old and frail, who wears gloves to protect his hands from hot coffee cups, may just be one of the bravest souls you'll ever meet.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: How about a coffee?
TODD: This man, who wheels around the Armed Forces Retirement Home, situates himself by the elevators and calls them out.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Number three.
TODD: He's one of so few remaining who can recall that day, tell you what it was really like, that first wave at Omaha Beach, June 6, 1944.
Nathan Reed and his Army Rangers, given, perhaps, the most daunting orders ever issued to an invasion force. Scale those cliffs, take them, hold them, as you're raked by German artillery and machine gun fire.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We had an awful lot of soldiers that was killed outright.
TODD: Private Reed comes ever so close. At the foot of a cliff, holding a rope as his sergeant climbs, a grenade drops down, goes off at his knees.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It punctured my eardrum and broke this knee up.
TODD: The Rangers keep coming, get up the cliffs. Not Nathan Reed.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I laid there on the beach two days and nights without food or water. An aid man came by and looked me over for bleeding and so forth, and then, after the late in the evening of the second day, well, they -- some German -- young German prisoners carried me down and put me on the boat, and we went to the battleship "Texas."
TODD: Reed gets his Purple Heart and Distinguished Unit badge but spends three years in military hospitals, is discharged, and still carries those wounds from 60 years ago. But he's the one who thinks of others who can't see so well now, calls out their elevators for them.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Number two.
TODD: And counts himself among the lucky ones who at least made it off that beach outside a body bag, luckier than some 2,500 other allied soldiers who died.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Just glad to be alive. So many -- so many that got killed around and near me. Well, it gets to you.
TODD: Brian Todd, CNN, Washington.
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NGUYEN: And we do have a check of this morning's top stories. That is just ahead.
President Bush makes his way to France this morning after a visit to Italy. We'll update this latest stop on his European tour.
CNN SATURDAY MORNING continues in just a moment.
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GRIFFIN: Coming up at the top of the hour, it's "ON THE STORY." Let's head to Kelli Arena for a preview. Kelli?
KELLI ARENA, "ON THE STORY: Well, good morning. We're "ON THE STORY" from Washington, New York, and California, to the high ground above the beaches of the D-Day invasion in France. Christiane Amanpour is on the D-Day story. I'll be talking about CIA director Tenet quitting this week. Kathleen Hays is "ON THE STORY" of record oil prices. We'll go to California to talk about the Laci Peterson case, and to New York for Smarty Jones and the Triple Crown. All coming up, all "ON THE STORY."
Back to you, Drew.
GRIFFIN: Look forward to that, Kelli. Thank you.
NGUYEN: And now it is time to talk about the weather with Rob Marciano. Good morning.
MARCIANO: Good morning again, Betty. Hello, Drew.
We are looking at temperatures across the country on this Saturday morning, nothing too chilly. We're get, we're into June now, almost into summer. Fifty-nine degrees in Chicago, should be a beautiful day there, 67 in St. Louis, a warm day with fair-weather clouds expected. Nice day in Atlanta expected. Lower 60s, that's where the temperatures will remain across the Northeast, as cloud cover and rainfall will be quite prevalent.
Couple of storm systems to discuss. One is an area of low pressure that's actually going to be developing throughout the day today and tossing Atlantic moisture up and over the top of New England and upstate New York and Long Island included.
Chicago, Cleveland, say down to Lexington, Kentucky, looking good. And this front will be pressing across the central Plains. Some of the storms that fire up in that area could become strong to severe.
It will be hot across the Southwest, 111 expected in Phoenix, just a couple degrees shy of their record. Places like Salt Lake and Las Vegas will see temperatures that will be near records.
Seventy-two degrees expected in Los Angeles, 80s, near 90 across the Gulf Coast, 75 in Chicago. And as mentioned, the lower 60s expected across the Northeast.
Speaking of, here's the radar, (UNINTELLIGIBLE) the latest. If you have plans, it'll be drying out from south to north as the rain moves its way towards the north. Now raining in and around the New York metro area, White Plains, up through, say, Stanford, eventually into Hartford and Boston later on today. And I expect this radar to actually fill in, maybe get a little bit more widespread.
Here are the line of storms that will become active across the central part of the country, and again, maybe some strong to severe ones, but it won't be quite as bad as it was last week at this time when we had tornadoes breaking out all over the place. Maybe just some hail and some gusty winds later on today.
Drew and Betty, back to you in the studio.
GRIFFIN: Rob, thanks. Have a good rest of your Saturday. MARCIANO: You too.
NGUYEN: Here's a quick check of our top stories.
First Rome, now France. After saying farewell in the Italian capital, President Bush arrived in Paris a short time ago. He's due to hold talks with French President Jacques Chirac, a vocal opponent in the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq. Reconciliation is expected to be the tone of discussions.
Now, tomorrow Mr. Bush will take part in activities marking the 60th day anniversary of D-Day.
Pope John Paul II is in Switzerland today. It's his first pilgrimage in nine months. He'll speak at a rally of some 10,000 young Swiss Catholics later today.
GRIFFIN: Plenty more ahead this morning on CNN. Up next, it's "ON THE STORY." At 11:00 a.m. Eastern, "PEOPLE IN THE NEWS." And at noon Eastern, more on the day's top stories from "CNN LIVE SATURDAY."
And we certainly thank you for spending part of your Saturday morning with us.
NGUYEN: It's been a pleasure. Do stay tuned. There's much more to come here on CNN.
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BETTY NGUYEN, CNN ANCHOR: Well, good morning to you. This is CNN SATURDAY MORNING, and I'm Betty Nguyen.
ANDREW GRIFFIN, CNN ANCHOR: And Andrew Griffin. Good morning. It's 6:00 a.m. on the West Coast. Thanks for starting your day with us.
Here is what's coming up this hour.
Sixty years ago, they stepped out of the English Channel and into history.
CHRISTIANE AMANPOUR, CNN CORRESPONDENT: I'm Christiane Amanpour at the American war cemetery in Colleville-sur-Mer with news of the president's arrival in France today and news of all of the commemorations of 60 years ago.
GRIFFIN: Also, the CIA in the crosshairs of a blistering new Senate report. Was it this report that led the CIA director George Tenet's Sunday decision to leave?
And later, the race of a lifetime. Smarty Jones will get two and a half minutes today to prove he's the world's fastest horse.
All that and much more, but first, Betty has today's headlines.
COLLINS: News this morning about former president Ronald Reagan. The White House has been informed the former president's health has deteriorated. Reagan is 93-years-old. He has been out of the public eye for the past decade since revealing he has Alzheimer's disease. Reagan has lived longer than any other American president.
An armed man who took his bulldozer on a rampage through Grandy (ph), Colorado, has been found dead in the steel-reinforced cab of the vehicle. Police say he committed suicide. The bulldozer destroyed or damaged several downtown buildings in the city. Police say the driver was angry about a zoning decision.
Pope John Paul II arrived in Switzerland early this morning. The 84-year-old pontiff made the trip after meeting Friday with President Bush. It is the pope's first pilgrimage out of Italy in the last nine months and his first visit to Switzerland in two decades. During the visit, the pope will meet with hundreds of former members of the elite Swiss Guard who have protected all of the popes since the 1500s. Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld is in Bangladesh after attending a regional security conference in Singapore. Rumsfeld is asking help from Asian nations in fighting international terrorism. He says the fight against ideological extremism is just getting started.
In Iraq, a roadside bomb exploded this morning in Baghdad, killing one American soldier and wounding three others. That blast occurred as a U.S. convoy was passing. American troops blocked off the site, and helicopters hovered overhead.
GRIFFIN: Our top story this hour, President Bush brushing up on the romantic languages. He says Ciao and Arrivederci to his Italian hosts as he wraps up his two-day tour of Italy and now moves on to France.
Bush and Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi began their meetings with firm handshakes and a solid grip of support for their mutual intentions in Iraq. The two leaders praised the past and present relationship between these two countries, and both reaffirmed their commitment to stay the course in the war in Iraq.
In a joint press conference, Bush and Berlusconi talked about the proposed U.N. resolution concerning Iraq's future.
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GEORGE W. BUSH, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Members of the U.N. Security Council and Iraq's new leaders are working toward a new resolution that will express international support for Iraq's interim government. The Security Council resolution will reaffirm the world's security commitment to the Iraqi nation and encourage other U.N. members to join in helping the Iraqi people as they establish a representative government.
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GRIFFIN: President Bush will be among many people at Normandy tomorrow to mark the day 60 years ago that was the turning point of World War II.
CNN's Christiane Amanpour is at the American cemetery right now, on the bluff above Omaha Beach. Good morning, Christiane.
AMANPOUR: Good morning.
And it was Omaha Beach that saw the bloodiest fighting and the most casualties that day, June 4, 1944.
And the president of the United States has now arrived in France. We don't yet have those pictures, but we will be bringing them to you soon. He has arrived. He will today meet with President Jacques Chirac. And unlike his meetings with Silvio Berlusconi, with whom he agreed on the war in Iraq, Jacques Chirac, as you know, never agreed about that war and still does not believe that it was the right thing to do. In addition, 85 percent of the French people don't agree with the war in Iraq, and there are expected to be protesters in the streets of Paris today.
But President Chirac, we're told, does want to have meetings with President Bush, and he will do that today, in which they want to talk about the future, they want to move forward, they want it try to bring something positive for future relations between the two countries and they're working closely together on this U.N. resolution that will govern the eventual handover on June 30 and the future interim government and what goes on in Iraq after the occupation ends officially June 30.
So that's for the leaders. Here, at the American wartime cemetery, and all around Normandy, the feelings are very different. Here, 60 years on, people say that we do not forget our liberators. We thank them. We remember the courage. We remember the sacrifice. And we know that if it had not been for those Americans, British, Canadians, and other veterans, we would not live today in peace, freedom, and democracy.
Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder of Germany is also invited here. This is the first time that a serving German chancellor is invited to commemorate these D-Day celebrations, for the obvious reasons.
Ahead of his visit here, Chancellor Schroeder gave an interview to French television in which he expressed for the first time in 60 years the shame for many of the Nazi actions here, but most particularly for something that happened shortly after D-Day in a small village in southwestern France called Oradour-sur-Glan. Then, SS troops stormed through the village and massacred more than 600 French civilians. Amongst them were men, women, and even children, some 200 children.
As I say, Schroeder expressed his shame and sorrow for that massacre. And it only fully, fully came to light about 10 years ago on the 50th anniversary of D-Day. And that's when we went to Oradour- sur-Glan, and we reported on the survivors and the terrible, terrible massacre that had taken place there.
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AMANPOUR (voice-over): They say the sun rarely shines on Oradour-sur-Glan. Here, the rain and the tears mix freely.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Makes me want to cry.
AMANPOUR: For as British infantryman Jim Muggleton landed in Normandy 50 years ago, 500 kilometers away, an SS unit was storming through the tiny village of Oradour trying to reinforce German troops on the coast, with orders to terrorize the countryside on the way. And so on June 10, 1944, the Nazis rounded up the civilians on the village green. They separated the women and children from the men, locking about 190 men in the village barns.
Marcel D'Arcure (ph) was 20 then. He was one of only six male survivors.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE (through translator): We were over there. They were here, five soldiers with machine guns. We heard a shot outside, an order, and all of a sudden, they started firing. I was lucky, very lucky that day. Two bullets in my legs. Two in my thighs. I was among the first to fall, and all the others fell on top of me. They protected me.
AMANPOUR: Then the Germans covered their victims with straw and wood and set the fires that would eventually destroy the whole village. Somehow, Marcel and five others managed to escape. Today, a plaque commemorates what they did.
The women and children were not spared. In the village church, some as young as this one were being shot and burned too. In all, 205 children were killed, nearly 300 women. Only one managed to escape, somehow scrambling through a window above the altar. She too is remembered forever.
Jean Lamore (ph) is guardian of this village-turned-museum. He was lucky back in 1944.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE (through translator): I was not yet born. My mother was pregnant with me. And June 10, my parents were invited to a wedding in the next village, so they left here an hour before the Nazis arrived. They left behind my grandparents and great- grandparents, and my sister, who was 4 years old. They never saw them again.
AMANPOUR: All that's left of Jean's family is this memorial in the cemetery. Because e everything was burned, there are no remains, just a few bones and the ashes of an entire village mixed forever.
And so nothing has changed. Rusted cars parked 50 years ago, a bicycle, a sewing machine, and signs showing what once was a cafe and a butcher's shop. No one lives here. It's meant to be a warning.
But humanity's thirst for the inhuman has not been quenched. You don't have to search far to see that.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I think what's going on in the world right now, in Rwanda and Bosnia, and all the other hot spots that, well, you know, we got to change, now, for future generations.
AMANPOUR: And so in Oradour, they ask visitors for silence, for some respect. Above all, they ask us to remember.
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AMANPOUR: And that is what people are remembering this weekend, the beginning of the end of the barbarism of Nazism in Europe, the beginning of democracy reconquering Europe.
And we will be here all this weekend with special coverage of the 60th anniversary of D-Day. GRIFFIN: So painful, six decades later. Thank you, Christiane. And we look forward to your live coverage from Normandy honoring D-Day that begins at 3:00 a.m. Eastern, hosted by CNN's Christiane Amanpour and Wolf Blitzer.
Plenty more on the D-Day anniversary still ahead this morning.
NGUYEN: Coming up, one veteran's account of that bloody day 60 years ago, and how he helps give back to his fellow soldiers today. You don't want to miss this inspiring story.
And what is next for the CIA? Director George Tenet's resignation raises plenty of questions about the spy agency. We'll take a look at what's ahead.
ROB MARCIANO, CNN METEOROLOGIST: And coming up weatherwise, it's going to be wet across the Northeast today, and there'll be more storms that fire up across the central Plains. In between, not too shabby a Saturday. We'll go over your forecast in just a little bit. CNN SATURDAY MORNING will be right back.
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NGUYEN: Federal prosecutors have interviewed Vice President Dick Cheney as part of an investigation into the leaking of information about a CIA operative. The vice president was questioned about a possible White House leak, which disclosed the identity of Joseph Wilson's wife as an undercover CIA operative. Wilson had accused the Bush administration of making unfounded claims about Iraq's weapons of mass destruction. The White House has denied any involvement in the leak of information.
GRIFFIN: On Capitol Hill, three reports are expected to hammer the CIA for bungling intelligence before and after September 11. A 400-page report by the Senate Intelligence Committee presented to the CIA for comment last month is said to be the harshest of the three.
Congressional correspondent Joe Johns reports on that.
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JOE JOHNS, CNN CONGRESSIONAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): The Senate report is being called a stinging indictment of CIA failures, so harsh it's seen by some senators as one reason George Tenet resigned. Publicly, the Intelligence Committee chairman calls it unflattering.
SEN. PAT ROBERTS (R), CHAIR, INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE: I think that the community is in somewhat in denial over the full extent, and I emphasize full extent, of the shortcoming of its work on Iraq.
JOHNS: The report is especially critical of the October 2002 national intelligence estimate detailing evidence the CIA said showed Saddam Hussein had chemical and biological weapons and was trying to rebuild its nuclear weapons program. Among the findings, committee sources say, claims were based on unfounded assumptions. Multiple names were used for the same source, making the evidence look stronger than it was. U.S. intelligence never interviewed sources who said Iraq had mobile weapons labs, and warnings one of those sources was a fabricator were ignored.
That intelligence about mobile labs, now apparently wrong, was touted by Secretary of State Powell at the United Nations.
ROBERT BAER, FORMER CIA OFFICER: Sometimes in terrorism, you, if there's an imminent threat, you take unsourced information and disseminate it. But something to justify a preemptive war is totally unacceptable.
JOHNS: The CIA, which is adding its remarks to the report and taking out classified material, had no comment.
Before George Tenet's resignation, Chairman Roberts suggested that intelligence failures were so serious, someone should be fired or disciplined.
(on camera): Roberts expects to release the report publicly as early as this month. Then the committee begins work on what could be an equally damaging report focusing on the policymakers and whether they hyped the threat of weapons of mass destruction to make the case for war.
Joe Johns, CNN, Capitol Hill.
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NGUYEN: Deputy CIA director John McLaughlin will become acting chief once Tenet steps down July 11.
So what's next for the spy agency? In our Washington bureau is Graham Allison of Harvard University, former assistant secretary of defense and a leading analyst of national security and defense policy.
We want to welcome you this morning.
GRAHAM ALLISON, FORMER ASSISTANT DEFENSE SECRETARY: Glad to be here.
NGUYEN: Let's first talk about the big question everyone's asking. Who will replace Tenet? A lot of names being tossed around, Frank Keating, Tom Keane, Tom Ridge. Let's talk about each of these individuals and who else you're hearing.
ALLISON: Well, my bet that is nobody will replace Tenet for the interim. That is, that John McLaughlin, fortunately a able veteran, will be in the job as acting director through the election. I think the Bush administration will find it too difficult to have the confirmation process run before that.
And I -- my bet is that what will happen is that the administration will announce some major reorganization of the intelligence community that will become part of the Congressional debate, and that will run through the rest of the year and into the new year.
NGUYEN: Now, we know McLaughlin is going to be in there for the interim. But as to that first question, who are you hearing will be the permanent replacement for Tenet?
ALLISON: Well, the permanent replacement will depend a little bit on what happens on November 2. If it were Bush, you may go in one direction. If you were Kerry, you might go in another direction.
I think people like Tom Keane or Ridge, but Ridge is just doing a good job, you know, with the problems that he has already, would be potential candidates. But I think it's a little early to be handicapping a horse race in which, in the interim, we're going to have John McLaughlin, and I think we're lucky for that.
NGUYEN: How ready is he for taking control right now at such a critical time?
ALLISON: Well, that's a very good question. I think George Tenet has played a crucial role in the war on terrorism as the veteran among all the other parties. Mueller is relatively new to his job. Ridge has only been there for a year.
So George has been around the track, and for the meetings, he's been the crucial person. I think in the absence of both George Tenet and his deputy for operations, who's also resigning, there will be a question of whether we will be able to get to the battle stations and be prepared, particularly at a time when CIA and FBI and others are warning that another terrorist attack may be in the offing before the election.
NGUYEN: Will McLaughlin make any big changes while he's there in the interim?
ALLISON: I think with an acting director, with this torrent of criticism and some serious analysis of the dysfunctions of CIA and the other intelligence agencies, people will be trying to hold the fort and, you know, circle the wagons and fend off the criticism. And they'll find it difficult to do their job. So I think this is a very dangerous period.
I also think that while I think George Tenet has provided great public service to the nation, that he's been at the helm of an agency that's been responsible for grave failures. So his standing up and taking responsibility, I applaud, but if this is the beginning of a new ethic of responsibility in the administration, in which people stand up and take responsibility for their failures, his will be the first, not the last, resignation from the Bush national security team.
NGUYEN: Former assistant secretary of defense Graham Allison, now with Harvard University. We thank you for your time and your insight this morning.
ALLISON: Thank you. GRIFFIN: Well, it is two down, one to go for Smarty Jones.
JOSIE BURKE, CNN SPORTS CORRESPONDENT: I'm Josie Burke at Belmont Park, where today is the day for Smarty Jones. He'll try to become the 12th horse in history to win the Triple Crown. I'll have a Belmont Stakes preview when CNN SATURDAY MORNING comes right back after this.
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NGUYEN: Rob, we still have a little time, but Smarty Jones is hoping for some nice weather today. No rain.
MARCIANO: Is it, did you talk to him?
NGUYEN: I did. I, you know, I speak that?
MARCIANO: You talked to the -- You didn't know that about her, Drew?
NGUYEN: (UNINTELLIGIBLE).
GRIFFIN: She's very smart. Smarty Betty...
NGUYEN: Yes.
GRIFFIN: ... talked to Smarty Jones.
MARCIANO: My feed just went out, so I couldn't hear (UNINTELLIGIBLE)...
GRIFFIN: Oh, that's a good one.
NGUYEN: Oh, but it was good, (UNINTELLIGIBLE).
GRIFFIN: Good one.
NGUYEN: (UNINTELLIGIBLE).
MARCIANO: Entertaining as always.
We start you off with what's going on around the rest of the country. There's going to be some rainfall, looks like, across the Northeast. So Smarty Jones, maybe you live in this highly populated corridor. So plan for kind of a soggy Saturday. It won't rain all day long all the time, but there'll certainly be a lot of showers around.
Across the midsection, we'll see sun break out through Chicago, and a line of showers and storms will fire up across the central plain. Hot across the Southwest and some showers across the Pacific Northwest. Sixty-three degrees in New York, or 61 in New York, 63 in Boston. Rain arriving there later today. Atlanta, 84, Charlotte really nice as well, lower 80s and low humidity. Miami will see some showers and storms fire up. Detroit, Chicago, will be dry today, thunderstorms tomorrow, and Minneapolis will see the thunderstorms roll through throughout the afternoon.
Dallas also a possibility of seeing some strong storms today. Denver will be a high of about 82, 72 in Los Angeles, 72 in San Francisco, and Seattle will see some showers as well.
All right, we roll to Belmont. Here's the forecast. It will be breezy and wet. Temperatures will be in the lower 60s, so not all that pleasant. Definitely have to dress for the occasion. Missed the Doppler radar out of New York, and not a whole lot of rain showing up. But at last check, it was raining in JFK and Belmont, right about there. So there are showers surrounding the race track. And I expect this radar to fill in.
Drew and Betty, back to you. Don't ask me a question. I can't hear a thing.
NGUYEN: We'll just move right along.
MARCIANO: Bad batteries.
GRIFFIN: Easy out there, Rob.
It's been 26 years since Affirmed won the Triple Crown, but that doesn't mean there haven't been close calls. In fact, in both of the last two years, a horse has come into the Belmont with a chance at the crown. But will this year bring a stronger finish from Smarty Jones?
For the latest on the race and on Smarty's chances this morning, we go live to Belmont, New York, and our Josie Burke. Hi, Josie.
BURKE: Hi, hi, Drew.
I also want to give you the latest on the weather. I can confirm it is sprinkling right now here in Elmont, New York, and, again, we don't know what it's going to be like at 6:38 post time for the Belmont Stakes.
But we do know one thing. The weather might have an affect on the size of the crowd. They're expecting over 100,000 people, but we don't believe it will have much of an effect on the chances for Smarty Jones to win the Triple Crown, and that's because in his short career he has already won twice on a muddy track.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It looks like it could be real bad. You know, I hope we don't have to go through what we went through in Kentucky. And, you know, I was really hoping for a dry, fast track, and, you know, for the people more than anything. But, you know, he's -- my horse is a good horse, and I think he'll run on pretty much anything.
(END VIDEO CLIP) BURKE: But just in case Smarty Jones needed to get even better acclimated to the water, he got a really good bath yesterday in preparation for the Belmont Stakes. And afterward his trainer, John Servis, said at that point in time that the horse already had his game face on, and that's really saying something for a horse that doesn't really stand out until it's time to run.
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STEWART ELLIOTT, JOCKEY, SMARTY JONES: Besides being talented, he has everything it takes. He has the heart. He has the desire to win. He loves what he does. And he's good at it.
JOHN SERVIS, TRAINER, SMARTY JONES: I mean, he doesn't look like a super horse, but when you put that bridle on him and you lead him to the paddock, he transforms into, as my son would say, a beast. And, you know, he just -- I don't know what it is that does that to him, but he's just got a special -- something very special to him that turns him into a machine.
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BURKE: The last horse to win the Triple Crown was Affirmed in 1978. So there's this 26-year drought. Maybe that's why there's a real air of anticipation. Today is kind of like, in the sports world, the World Series, the Super Bowl, all wrapped up in one. But what makes it different is that, I mentioned there are going to be about 100,000 people here or more. Pretty much all of them want to see the same outcome, and that's Smarty Jones win the Triple Crown, Drew.
GRIFFIN: Josie Burke at the Belmont in Elmont. Thank you very much.
NGUYEN: And if Smarty Jones does win today, you can bet he's going to get a lot of votes for our e-mail question of the day. We've been asking you all morning long, What feat do you think is the most amazing in history? And we've got some answers already.
A.B. in New Jersey writes, "There's no greater feat in sports than Steffi Graf's (ph) golden slam in 1988. She won all four grand slam tournaments and the Olympic gold in the same year. This represents total and sustained domination in tennis over the top women professionals in the world at the time."
GRIFFIN: Bill in Wilmington, Delaware, "To win the Indy 500, hop on a plane and fly to Charlotte and win the World 600 NASCAR race, that would be a feat few have tried. None have succeeded."
NGUYEN: Oh, and you have to check this one out. This person writes, "I think the most impressive feat in sports are Shaq's. Aren't they about a size 18?"
Oh, Joe, you're such a comedian.
But we do appreciate all of your answers to our e-mail question of the day. GRIFFIN: Actually...
NGUYEN: Size 18...
GRIFFIN: ... 22 (UNINTELLIGIBLE).
NGUYEN: See?
GRIFFIN: (UNINTELLIGIBLE).
NGUYEN: Joe, you're wrong, 22. Even better, or an even bigger feat.
Now for an update on our top stories.
President Bush has just arrived in Paris from Rome. He'll meet with French President Jacques Chirac this afternoon. Tomorrow Mr. Bush and other European leaders will commemorate the 60th anniversary of the D-Day invasion in Normandy.
Back in the U.S., federal prosecutors have interviewed Vice President Dick Cheney in a CIA leak investigation. Authorities are trying to determine who disclosed the identity of an undercover CIA operative. That operative's husband has accused the administration of making unfounded claims about Iraq's weapons program.
GRIFFIN: And up next, Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry puts his spin on the recent job numbers.
And for years, he's served one of the nation's most heralded newspapers. Today "The Washington Post"'s Ben Bradlee pays a visit to The Novak Zone.
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NGUYEN: D-Day remembered 60 years later. You're about to meet a man who was wounded on the beach and landed there -- or laid there, I should say, for two days. And even now, he still does what he can to help out the people around him.
GRIFFIN: Welcome back. That story's coming up.
First, though, the headlines at this hour.
White House sources say Ronald Reagan's health is deteriorating. The former president has been ill for many years with Alzheimer's disease. Sources say his health declined significantly over the past week or so. Mr. Reagan is 93 years old, making him the oldest former president in U.S. history. Stay with CNN for the very latest on President Ronald Reagan's condition.
President Bush arrived in Paris a short time ago for talks with French President Jacques Chirac, a critic of the Iraq war. Mr. Bush hopes to improve relations strained by the U.S.-led invasion. Tomorrow the president will take part in activities commemorating the 60th anniversary of D-Day. Britain's Prince Charles is also in Normandy for the observance of D-Day. He took part in a number of memorial ceremonies today to pay tribute to allied nations that lost lives to liberate Europe. He also unveiled a full-size replica of a glider used by British paratroopers in a surprise attack.
NGUYEN: This year marks the 30th anniversary of President Richard Nixon's resignation. Ben Bradlee saw it all happen from his office at "The Washington Post," and it was his leadership during Watergate that made him one of the most influential newspaper editors of our time. Ben Bradlee is this week's guest in The Novak Zone.
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ROBERT NOVAK, HOST: Welcome to The Novak Zone.
We're with Ben Bradlee, vice president at large of "The Washington Post," one of the great editors of our time.
Ben, it was 30 years ago that so many high officials of the Nixon administration went to prison. Richard Nixon was driven out of office. All because of a couple of guys named Woodward and Bernstein on "The Washington Post," and you, Ben Bradlee, as their editor.
Do you think they would have gotten away with all that stuff if it wasn't for your -- for this small group of people at "The Washington Post"?
BEN BRADLEE, VICE PRESIDENT AT LARGE, "THE WASHINGTON POST": I'm not sure that they would, but they, it would have taken much longer. I think the thing that put the "Post" in front was that no, none of these big-shot national reporters could find their way to the courthouse. It was a local story at the beginning for the first few days. You know, everything that happened in the -- it was in low court, this was a low district court.
And then Woodward got on a roll. And he was, he's hard to stop when he gets on a roll.
NOVAK: Did you have any trouble sleeping nights when you were relying on two green reporters, one, no experience at all, almost fired?
BRADLEE: No, because by the time it really got serious, where I could get some sense of the dimension of this and the possibilities and the gravamen of it, they had proved themselves pretty much to me. They, their stories were right. And that's why we didn't turn it over to some of the big-shot national reporters.
NOVAK: Journalism has changed so much. We have these 24-hour cable networks, we're on one now. We have, I mean, all these Web sites. Do you think that this could have happened today? One newspaper, a small bunch of people, all fit in one room, to pull off a story like this, as an exclusive, really?
BRADLEE: That's what's different. I don't think that -- I mean, now, after Watergate, the press corps is never going to let one paper get a big lead on a story the way we got and become hard to catch. That's the big change in Washington in my time, the size of the press corps.
Remember when Roosevelt held a press conference, there were 11 people there, 11 men and May Craig with that big square hat, and that's it. Now, my God, that's -- you know, you can get 1,000 people to a press conference.
NOVAK: Is it better now? Better that -- reporting better, the journalism better?
BRADLEE: Sure.
NOVAK: You think so?
BRADLEE: Yes. I think there are some excesses in journalism that didn't exist then, but it's more honest, and the press is hard to fool now. You can fool them for 20 minutes. You can't fool them for long.
NOVAK: Deep Throat, the big Bob Woodward source, you had misgivings about anonymous sources all through your life.
BRADLEE: All my life.
NOVAK: Yes.
BRADLEE: All my life. I think it's -- I've campaigned to, if you can't name the person, at least narrow it down to male, female, Army, Navy, State -- you know. But if that's what you've got and the information is worth it, it's plainly the right thing to do.
NOVAK: So you, so, so you believe, though, I mean, you've been asked this question 2,000 times, but I'll ask it 2001, that there is a Deep Throat.
BRADLEE: I know there is.
NOVAK: It isn't a composite, (UNINTELLIGIBLE)...
BRADLEE: I know there is. I know there is. And I know that he has withstood the test of time. I mean, he was right. Now, Woodward -- what, how they used the information from Deep Throat was proper, and it was principled.
NOVAK: I'm writing my memoirs, and (UNINTELLIGIBLE)...
BRADLEE: Good luck.
NOVAK: And I look at all our old papers, Ben, and I find that the page one of "The Washington Post" 30 years ago had a lot less interpretation and opinion on it than it does today. Does that bother you at all, that change?
BRADLEE: Well, here's what television forced the press to do, was to put in, right after the lead, what we call a so-what paragraph. You've got to tell the reader why the hell this is important. And that's the paragraph that leads people to say that these -- that the press has an opinion. It's, it shouldn't be an opinion, but it should say that this is why this newspaper thinks this story is important.
NOVAK: And now, the big question for Ben Bradlee of "The Washington Post."
Ben, you performed a great feat and a great task for journalism with the Pentagon -- publication of the Pentagon Papers and winning that in court. Are you worried that in this period of the war on terrorism that there is going to be -- there are going to be restrictions imposed on the news medium?
BRADLEE: I'm always worried about that, because there always is. It's been a steady battle to police that, not resist it automatically. But, you know, the press and editors are not as irresponsible as it is suggested by the people who are always whining about the press.
Most of the -- my generation all had security clearances. We were all in the war. We did, we all carried on. So our patriotism is, you know, there's a track record of it. It's national embarrassment that keeps the national security debate alive, because the government says, Oh, my God, you can't go there, you can't take a look at that, because they're scared they'll get caught doing something that's not quite straight.
I think that, you know, the national security argument doesn't -- almost never holds up. It does occasionally, and that's the exception that keeps you on your toes.
NOVAK: Ben Bradlee, thank you very much.
And thank you for being in The Novak Zone.
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GRIFFIN: As the economy picks up steam, more companies are saying help wanted, and more people are saying, I accept. The positive new jobs numbers are out, and the political reactions are now in.
CNN's Candy Crowley has that.
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CANDY CROWLEY, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Nine hundred thousand new jobs in three months. What could be wrong with that?
SEN. JOHN KERRY (D-MA), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: You know, I saw that there were 240,000 jobs created last month. That's terrific.
CROWLEY: That's not all, of course. John Kerry and company insist the economy is still a potent issue, particularly in hard-hit Midwestern battleground states.
KERRY: But guess what? There's still 1.9 net million jobs lost over the course of this presidency.
CROWLEY: And especially when the rhetoric is sprinkled with the inference that George Bush cares only about the rich.
KERRY: There's still too many people who can't afford health care, can't afford to go to college. There are too many people struggling, while at the top end people get ahead.
CROWLEY: That stagnant job market Democrats hope to hang around the president is not stagnant anymore, and the failing economy has been booming for months. Surely, it is a selling point for the president, but not the only point for John Kerry.
KERRY: I believe that over the course of these last few years, the leader of the free world, the United States of America, has lost respect and influence. Alliances are broken, and people are questioning both our values and our ideals. I intend to restore America's respect and influence.
CROWLEY: Even as the economy has improved, the war in Iraq has proven more troublesome. Last year's conventional wisdom that George Bush's strong point would be his role as world leader, his weak point the economy, looks less wise at this moment in 2004. We are happy, insisted one Kerry strategist, to make our points on either topic.
Candy Crowley, CNN, Minneapolis.
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NGUYEN: You've likely had a busy week. No time to keep up with the top stories? Well, you have come to the right place. Time to rewind.
On Tuesday, Iraqi authorities ushered in a new interim government. The new body replaces the U.S.-backed Iraqi Governing Council, which was dissolved to make way for the new leaders. The new government will be in charge from the time the coalition hands over power at the end of this month until January's elections for a new transitional government.
Wednesday a top U.S. general said Army soldiers who are in units due to deploy cannot retire until their tour is over. The stop-loss measure will prevent thousands of more soldiers from leaving the service as planned.
A shakeup in the intelligence world on Thursday. A CIA chief, George Tenet, announced his resignation for what he calls personal reasons. Tenet will stay on the job until July 11, when Deputy CIA Director John McLaughlin becomes the agency's acting chief.
Also on Thursday, OPEC agreed to raise oil output by 2 million barrels a day beginning July 1. Don't go racing to the pump, though. Here's the fine print. The cartel already exceeds its daily quota by 3 million barrels, raising questions about the decision's impact on soaring gas prices.
Tomorrow, we'll fast forward to the week ahead and tell you which stories will grab the spotlight.
Sixty years later, another veteran remembers his experience on the beaches of Normandy.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I laid there on the beach two days and nights without food or water. An aid man came by and looked me over for bleeding and so forth.
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NGUYEN: Later, after D-Day, when CNN SATURDAY MORNING returns.
But first, more of the images we don't often get to see from another war. These, from Iraq.
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NGUYEN: Well, warships and ferries left Port Smouth (ph), England, today bound for the Normandy coast of France. Aboard were British D-Day veterans, who will be greeted by Royal Marines near Assorde (ph) beach, one of the beaches where British troops landed some 60 years ago.
Prince Charles is one of the dignitaries on hand in France to watch today's reenactment of paratroopers on D-Day. Allied troops were dropped behind enemy lines in the predawn hours before the invasion. Their role 60 years ago were vital to the success of D-Day by capturing key bridges and towns and destroying German defenses.
GRIFFIN: Of the five D-Day beaches, Omaha, one of the two where American troops landed, was by far the deadliest. Many Americans did not survive June 6, 1944, on Omaha Beach.
CNN's Brian Todd found one man who did.
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BRIAN TODD, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): This man, 86 years old and frail, who wears gloves to protect his hands from hot coffee cups, may just be one of the bravest souls you'll ever meet.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: How about a coffee?
TODD: This man, who wheels around the Armed Forces Retirement Home, situates himself by the elevators and calls them out.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Number three.
TODD: He's one of so few remaining who can recall that day, tell you what it was really like, that first wave at Omaha Beach, June 6, 1944.
Nathan Reed and his Army Rangers, given, perhaps, the most daunting orders ever issued to an invasion force. Scale those cliffs, take them, hold them, as you're raked by German artillery and machine gun fire.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We had an awful lot of soldiers that was killed outright.
TODD: Private Reed comes ever so close. At the foot of a cliff, holding a rope as his sergeant climbs, a grenade drops down, goes off at his knees.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It punctured my eardrum and broke this knee up.
TODD: The Rangers keep coming, get up the cliffs. Not Nathan Reed.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I laid there on the beach two days and nights without food or water. An aid man came by and looked me over for bleeding and so forth, and then, after the late in the evening of the second day, well, they -- some German -- young German prisoners carried me down and put me on the boat, and we went to the battleship "Texas."
TODD: Reed gets his Purple Heart and Distinguished Unit badge but spends three years in military hospitals, is discharged, and still carries those wounds from 60 years ago. But he's the one who thinks of others who can't see so well now, calls out their elevators for them.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Number two.
TODD: And counts himself among the lucky ones who at least made it off that beach outside a body bag, luckier than some 2,500 other allied soldiers who died.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Just glad to be alive. So many -- so many that got killed around and near me. Well, it gets to you.
TODD: Brian Todd, CNN, Washington.
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NGUYEN: And we do have a check of this morning's top stories. That is just ahead.
President Bush makes his way to France this morning after a visit to Italy. We'll update this latest stop on his European tour.
CNN SATURDAY MORNING continues in just a moment.
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GRIFFIN: Coming up at the top of the hour, it's "ON THE STORY." Let's head to Kelli Arena for a preview. Kelli?
KELLI ARENA, "ON THE STORY: Well, good morning. We're "ON THE STORY" from Washington, New York, and California, to the high ground above the beaches of the D-Day invasion in France. Christiane Amanpour is on the D-Day story. I'll be talking about CIA director Tenet quitting this week. Kathleen Hays is "ON THE STORY" of record oil prices. We'll go to California to talk about the Laci Peterson case, and to New York for Smarty Jones and the Triple Crown. All coming up, all "ON THE STORY."
Back to you, Drew.
GRIFFIN: Look forward to that, Kelli. Thank you.
NGUYEN: And now it is time to talk about the weather with Rob Marciano. Good morning.
MARCIANO: Good morning again, Betty. Hello, Drew.
We are looking at temperatures across the country on this Saturday morning, nothing too chilly. We're get, we're into June now, almost into summer. Fifty-nine degrees in Chicago, should be a beautiful day there, 67 in St. Louis, a warm day with fair-weather clouds expected. Nice day in Atlanta expected. Lower 60s, that's where the temperatures will remain across the Northeast, as cloud cover and rainfall will be quite prevalent.
Couple of storm systems to discuss. One is an area of low pressure that's actually going to be developing throughout the day today and tossing Atlantic moisture up and over the top of New England and upstate New York and Long Island included.
Chicago, Cleveland, say down to Lexington, Kentucky, looking good. And this front will be pressing across the central Plains. Some of the storms that fire up in that area could become strong to severe.
It will be hot across the Southwest, 111 expected in Phoenix, just a couple degrees shy of their record. Places like Salt Lake and Las Vegas will see temperatures that will be near records.
Seventy-two degrees expected in Los Angeles, 80s, near 90 across the Gulf Coast, 75 in Chicago. And as mentioned, the lower 60s expected across the Northeast.
Speaking of, here's the radar, (UNINTELLIGIBLE) the latest. If you have plans, it'll be drying out from south to north as the rain moves its way towards the north. Now raining in and around the New York metro area, White Plains, up through, say, Stanford, eventually into Hartford and Boston later on today. And I expect this radar to actually fill in, maybe get a little bit more widespread.
Here are the line of storms that will become active across the central part of the country, and again, maybe some strong to severe ones, but it won't be quite as bad as it was last week at this time when we had tornadoes breaking out all over the place. Maybe just some hail and some gusty winds later on today.
Drew and Betty, back to you in the studio.
GRIFFIN: Rob, thanks. Have a good rest of your Saturday. MARCIANO: You too.
NGUYEN: Here's a quick check of our top stories.
First Rome, now France. After saying farewell in the Italian capital, President Bush arrived in Paris a short time ago. He's due to hold talks with French President Jacques Chirac, a vocal opponent in the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq. Reconciliation is expected to be the tone of discussions.
Now, tomorrow Mr. Bush will take part in activities marking the 60th day anniversary of D-Day.
Pope John Paul II is in Switzerland today. It's his first pilgrimage in nine months. He'll speak at a rally of some 10,000 young Swiss Catholics later today.
GRIFFIN: Plenty more ahead this morning on CNN. Up next, it's "ON THE STORY." At 11:00 a.m. Eastern, "PEOPLE IN THE NEWS." And at noon Eastern, more on the day's top stories from "CNN LIVE SATURDAY."
And we certainly thank you for spending part of your Saturday morning with us.
NGUYEN: It's been a pleasure. Do stay tuned. There's much more to come here on CNN.
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