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Missouri Town Trying to Cope with Deadly Shootings; What's Really Best for You to Eat?; Primaries and Caucuses Happening Today; Four People Still Missing in Sugar Refinery Blast

Aired February 09, 2008 - 09:00   ET

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BETTY NGUYEN, CNN ANCHOR: Hello everybody from the CNN Center right here in Atlanta. I'm Betty Nguyen. This is CNN SATURDAY MORNING.
T.J. HOLMES, CNN ANCHOR: Yes, hello to you all. I'm T.J. Holmes. In the news this morning, a small town grieving after a man shoots and kills city leaders. Police trying to figure out what made the suspected gunman go off.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I shined the flashlight across and said, I've got a baby doll, before I got "I've got a baby doll" out of my mouth, it moved.

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NGUYEN: Yes, that was no baby doll. That was in fact a baby who survived a tornado after being thrown hundreds of yards.

HOLMES: Also what to eat? Betty, what to eat? I'm sure those Krispy Kreme doughnuts you brought in this morning.

NGUYEN: I had two already.

HOLMES: Were not the best thing we could have had. But you have heard all the diet advice, but what's really best for you. Our guest says it's time to get real.

NGUYEN: Yes, it is. And first up, let's do that by jumping into this. At least 15 people killed this morning in an explosion in northwestern Pakistan. It happened at a political campaign rally and police say as many as 20 people are injured. We are keeping an eye on this developing story and of course, we want to bring you those updates just as soon as we get them.

HOLMES: And of course politics happening, it seems like always in this country. And the next slate of presidential primaries and caucuses happening today. We got five going on, one happening tomorrow. Today we have caucuses in Kansas, Nebraska, Washington, also the Virgin Islands. Kansas just for the Republicans.

Today, in Nebraska and the Virgin Islands, Democrat only. Maine, Democrats are voting tomorrow. Meanwhile, Louisiana holding the only primary of the day, polls open there about two hours ago. A live look at that polling place. The one in particular we're keeping an eye on, not too busy, maybe right about now but we have seen a little activity and certainly we'll see more throughout the day.

And then later tonight, we'll be giving you a full rundown of what happened in all those contests, results and analysis live from the CNN Election Center. Our special coverage comes your way at 8:00 Eastern.

NGUYEN: Vice President Dick Cheney is on board with the handgun case before the nation's highest court. He has joined several members of Congress in signing a legal brief with the Supreme Court. And here's what it contends that the district of Columbia's ban on handguns violates the constitution. And it calls on the court to uphold a lower court ruling striking down the ordinance. Arguments are set for March 18.

Well, people in Kirkwood, Missouri are still trying to come to grips with a murderous rampage at city hall. A gunman killed five people and then was killed by police.

CNN's Jim Acosta is in Kirkwood. He joins us now. A lot of people watching this and still trying to understand what happened and why, most importantly.

JIM ACOSTA, CNN CORRESPONDENT: That's right, Betty. Last night, the people in this town held a candle light vigil and thousands of people stood where we are standing right now. They all tried to comprehend the violence that shattered their community.

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ACOSTA (voice-over): Investigators say the gunman shouted "shoot the mayor" as he blasted his way into the city council meeting, killing five people including two police officers, two council members and the local public works director. Also wounded in the rampage was Kirkwood's mayor. Witnesses saw the city attorney fight for his life and survive.

ALAN HOPEFL, WITNESSED SHOOTING: While I was on the floor, I heard three, four, maybe five more shots and within a minute or so, he was having an altercation with the city attorney John Hessel. And while Mr. Hessel was trying to protect himself and throwing chairs at cookie, I saw my chance to leave the premises and I bolted for the door.

ACOSTA: Moments later Kirkwood place took down the gunman identified by witnesses as Charles Lee Thornton, known to friends as Cookie. He was a local business owner with a history of heated confrontations with city officials. Relatives say Thornton had a score to settle.

GERALD THORNTON, BROTHER OF SUSPECTED GUNMAN: My brother went to war tonight with the people that were of the government that was putting torment and strife into his life.

ACOSTA: According to Gerald Thornton, the city had blocked his brother from speaking out at a council meetings, on municipal fines he racked up at his business. Charles lee Thornton took the matter to court on free speech grounds and lost in a ruling that came down just last week. Friends and family members of the victim are still trying to understand how small town city politics can turn so violent. One of the cities two slain council members, Connie Karr, was in the middle of a race to become Kirkwood's next mayor.

KATHY PAULSEN, FRIEND OF SLAIN COUNCIL MEMBER: I don't know if anybody will ever make sense of why our country has so much violence. But I think people should be committed to moving away from violence and moving toward resolution.

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ACOSTA: And you are looking now at the memorial that stands outside of Kirkwood's city hall. It has been growing over the last 24 hours as people stop by and pay their respects. And the grieving will go on in this community as funeral arrangements are being made at this hour for the victims who did not survive Thursday's rampage. Betty.

NGUYEN: Jim, in listening to your piece, especially the brother of the man accused of, you know, carrying out this murderous rampage, it sounds like he was defending him.

ACOSTA: It really does and I have to tell you, it was almost disgusting, frankly to listen to him try to justify what his brother did. But, you know, these are the parts of these types of stories that sometimes you just can't understand why a municipal issue such as this businessman racking up fines could somehow lead him to carry out this sort of violence. It's just impossible to comprehend.

And apparently he left a note before he went on this rampage according to that brother that had one line to it. It wasn't even signed. It said "the truth will win in the end." You have to scratch your head and wonder what truth is he talking about? It just doesn't make any sense.

NGUYEN: And did anyone win in all of this? All right. Jim Acosta joining us live. Thank you, Jim.

ACOSTA: You bet.

HOLMES: There's a new development in the Natalee Holloway case, but it's the same development we seemed to have heard over and over and over again in this case and that is that the chief suspect is back in for questioning. There he is, Joran Van Der Sloot in Aruba.

Investigators questioned him again, less than week after a secretly recorded videotape surfaced. In that videotape, Van Der Sloot claimed he was with Holloway when she collapsed on a beach in Aruba nearly three years ago and that he asked a friend to dump her body into the sea. Natalee's mother talks to CNN "Headline News" about the latest.

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NANCY GRACE, CNN HEADLINE NEWS, HOST: Do you ever believe that you feel Natalee's presence with you?

BETH HOLLOWAY, NATALEE HOLLOWAY'S MOTHER: I think what I do, Nancy, is I take comfort in knowing that I feel the peace and comfort from Natalee. And I'm not sure really if I ever thought about it as her presence, but then I do. I feel, I've always felt, you know, at peace in my heart but I knew that Natalee's with god.

And I think now after hearing Joran's full admission, I can take even more peace and comfort in knowing that my prayers were answered and I needed to know what happened. You know, the not knowing is the sheer hell and the knowing, even know it's difficult, it gives you that ability to have peace and comfort and begin the mourning in this journey.

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HOLMES: Well authorities say Van Der Sloot claimed he lied on that tape saying he was under the influence of marijuana. When that tape was made. We will turn now to a story happening here in Georgia actually.

Four people still missing near Savannah. The search is resuming in the rubble of a sugar refinery thrown apart by massive explosions. CNN's John Zarella live in Port Wentworth, Georgia for us this morning.

Good morning to you, sir.

JOHN ZARELLA, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Good morning T.J., a little bit of news on the victims of this explosion and fire here, of course, it's hard to imagine the intensity of that blaze, but on the good news side, there are no more patients still in the hospitals here in the Savannah area. There are about 20 still in the hospital in Augusta, Georgia. 19 are at the Joseph Steel Burn Center. And what we know is that 16 of those patients are in critical but stable condition. Three of them are in serious, but stable condition.

One of those victims, burned over 95 percent of his body, just horrible burns and here at the scene, the search is resuming this morning for four others who are missing, four confirmed dead, four bodies removed yesterday, at least four are still missing, perhaps a few more. We expect within the next hour or so to get some update from fire officials as that search resumes. It was just too dark and too dangerous last night here for the search teams to continue.

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ZARELLA (voice-over): Fires still smoldered beneath mountains of debris, a day after the ear splitting explosion at the Imperial Sugar Refinery, firefighters continued non-stop pouring water on hot spots.

MATT STANLEY, SAVANNAH FIRE DEPT.: Because of the amount of water that we're having to put on to the building, on to the structure, it is jeopardizing again the structural integrity of the building.

ZARELLA: What is left of the structure is charred, the rest teeters on twisted metal and fractured concrete.

Joyce Baker who teaches first aid just happened to be nearby. Her first instinct, get to the scene.

JOYCE BAKER, WITNESS: I have never seen that kind of human spirit before. When you are burned so badly and in such tremendous pain and the only thing you want to know is, take care of him or where's my friend. It's amazing.

ZARELLA: Thursday's explosion and fire left dozens burned.

It was unbelievably tough. I mean, just the number of patients.

ZARELLA: Dr. Jay Goldstein runs the emergency room at Memorial Health. His team spent hours treating victims and comforting loved ones.

DR. JAY GOLDSTEIN, MEMORIAL HEALTH UNIV. HOSPITAL: It's just such a recurrence of a significant amount of patients, a significant amount of severe trauma, severe burns and after a while, it definitely becomes overwhelming.

ZARELLA: Families of the missing workers came to the scene looking for answers and comfort.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: God has a way of waking people up.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I'm praying for everybody. And I hope everybody get out safe and sound.

ZARELLA: Heavy equipment will be brought in over the weekend to begin clearing debris. Fire officials say while rare, it's possible, sugar dust from the refining process ignited, causing the explosion.

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ZARELLA: Now, federal investigators are here at the scene. They're going to begin as soon as they can get into the remains of the plant, to try and sort out what Fire officials are on the scene, they're going to try and sort out exactly what happened. Again, as you heard there, possibly sugar dust and back to those victims now.

We talked to the Burn Center in Augusta today, imagine this, T.J., nearly every one of those patients who are at that Joseph Steel Burn Center had burns over at least 30 percent of their bodies. Horrible, horrible burns and they will be undergoing a lot of extensive surgery they tell us in the days and weeks ahead -- T.J.

HOLMES: Boy, that is a staggering number to hear it like that and put in perspective. John Zarella for us in Port Wentworth in Georgia. We appreciate you this morning.

NGUYEN: Right now, let's take you to Washington D.C. and as you can see there, presidential candidate Mike Huckabee speaking at the conservative political action conference at this hour. Let's take a little listen to what he's saying. (JOINED IN PROGRESS)

MIKE HUCKABEE (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: When this country was literally burning with riots and dissent, and we remember the Democratic national convention when the whole world was watching and they were. And there was a real definite choice that year, a choice would we be a country of law and order or a law and mayhem. And that further helped crystallized my view that I believed in law and order, not mayhem.

I believed that some things were right and some things were wrong and when we went with the right, we had strength. And when we saw that there was no moral center and there was nothing that really could ever be defined as a moral absolute, then we were lost and confused. I also was handed a book by Haskell Jones when I was a teenager. It was a book that was called "It's a choice, not an echo" written by Phyllis Schlafly. And that book had a tremendous impact on me as a teenager.

Quite frankly that book reminded me that in all of our lives, we should not simply be echoing the sentiments of others, but making deep personal choices about what we believe and most importantly, why we believe it. I realize that it is not politically correct to say what I'm about to say.

But I've believed it since I was a teenager and I will not recant it now. The reason that America is a great nation is because America is a special nation and the reason America is a special nation is because it was founded by people who were first on their knees before they were on their feet. We are a nation rooted in our faith.

NGUYEN: Mike Huckabee speaking at the conservative political action committee. He's getting quite an audience there, a round of applause. Now, this is the same group that we saw McCain speak to earlier this week as well as President Bush spoke to them yesterday. It's also the same group where Mitt Romney was speaking when he announced he was going to be suspending his campaign. So, we're taking a listen to what Mike Huckabee is saying.

Of course, don't forget, you can hear all of the candidates unfiltered today on CNN's "BALLOT BOWL." That takes place at 2:00 p.m. Eastern. You don't want to miss that. So stay tuned for much more when it comes to politics because CNN has your best political team on television.

HOLMES: I heard something about them.

NGUYEN: You think so.

HOLMES: I heard something, yes.

NGUYEN: It's the best.

HOLMES: It is, look it up folks.

Well, folks, I got a moment of joy to tell you about. It came in the middle of destruction.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I shined the flashlight across and said, "I've got a baby doll" before I got "I've got a baby doll" out of my mouth, it moved. Since we rolled the baby over, it took a gasp of air and started crying.

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HOLMES: No baby doll there. It's a real baby, a baby boy found in a field after a horrible and deadly tornado.

NGUYEN: What a remarkable story. But first, want to know how to eat right? Well, our guest says that may not be the answer there. But he also says that your great grandma wouldn't have eaten stuff like this and you shouldn't either.

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HOLMES: Once again, he's still in it, Mike Huckabee, still a candidate for president on the Republican side speaking to the Conservative Political Action Conference in Washington, D.C. We'll listen in again.

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HUCKABEE: ... in which responsibility is the other wing on our airplane of our individual freedom and choice. If we as a nation ever fail to understand that, then we will disintegrate and become like many of the cultures that we today have to confront and in fact fight who do not believe it is wrong to murder, even to murder one's own child for the sake of the political cause of Islamo-fascism.

What separates us from that very culture out to destroy us is that it never would be conceivable to us that we would strap a bomb to the belly of our own children and march our own child into a room full of innocent people to detonate a bomb in order to make a political point. Because we believe some things are right and some things are wrong. And we would believe it wrong to kill our own children for a purpose beneath that.

But we also believe that there are some things that are right. For example, as conservatives we believe that it is right to protect the sovereignty of the United States and to make sure that we never, ever for any circumstance, under any purpose ever yield one ounce of our sovereignty over to some international tribunal.

That's why we have to fight -- that's why we need to fight against the law of the sea treaty and make sure that it gets a good burial at sea. That's why we should say no to Kyoto, because it's not giving over our sovereignty. And it's why that any time some United States judge who has taken an oath to the constitution of the United States should invoke some international law as a basis upon which to make a decision, he should be summarily impeached for having done so. HOLMES: All right, listening in there to former Arkansas governor and Republican candidate for president Mike Huckabee who's still in the race, even though some think it's a foregone conclusion that Mr. John McCain is going to pick up that nomination he has collected quite a bit of delegates. But McCain, Huckabee still in it as well as Ron Paul. But listening in here right now to Huckabee who is at the Conservative Political Action conference in Washington, D.C., speaking.

You can hear more of his speech, hear big chunks of it coming up in our "BALLOT BOWL" where you can listen in to the candidates unfiltered. That's coming your way today at 11:00 a.m. Pacific time and 2:00 on the east coast. Make sure you tune in to that today.

NGUYEN: Well, up next, what to eat? You know, you've heard all the diet advice but what is the best for you. That's the big question. And our next guest says it is time to get real.

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NGUYEN: All right, so what's for breakfast this morning? Cereal, oatmeal, eggs? Well, our next guest says if you're eating something with more than five ingredients, you are eating the wrong thing. Michael Pollan is the author of "In Defense of Food, an Eater's Manifesto." He joins us from San Francisco.

Good morning to you.

MICHAEL POLLAN, AUTHOR: Good morning, Betty.

NGUYEN: All right. So you know, these days it feels like everyone has the perfect diet. But the problem is many of those diets contradict each other. You say it's very easy. Don't eat anything that your grandmother wouldn't recognize. What do you mean by that?

POLLAN: Well, you know, I mean, to cut through all the confusion about diet, one of the things we know is that traditional ways of eating kept people healthy and they still do all over the world. It's really only this modern western diet with all it's processed food and refined grain and added sugar and fat is what's responsible for chronic disease.

So if we can go back a couple generations and get in touch with real food and eat food, it's really that simple. The challenge is that there's so many edible food-like substances masquerading as food in your supermarket.

NGUYEN: Well, yes, everything is low in fat. Everything is good for you, according to the box that you read. I mean, how do you really know? Because I know one of your suggestions is, if you can't pronounce it, don't eat it.

POLLAN: Yes. Well, keep it simple. And the reason I mentioned that about your grandmother, your great grand mother, if you can just imagine her with you in the supermarket as you're shopping. When you pick up that box of portable gogurt, you know, yogurt tubes, would she know what that is? Would she really even know how to get that into her body?

NGUYEN: And what's so wrong with that stuff. I mean, yogurt is supposed to be good for you. It's supposed to give you calcium and all kinds of other good thing. I mean, what's so wrong with it.

POLLAN: Well, there's a little bit of yogurt in there. But if you look at the ingredients, you'll find another, you know, 10 or 15 completely unpronounceable things. The food industry basically can't live well enough alone. All yogurt needs to be yogurt is milk and bacterial cultures.

But if you look at what's being sold as yogurt in the store, very often it's a much more complex product and there's all sorts of refined sugars in there and that's where you really get into trouble.

NGUYEN: So is that what's keeping people from losing weight is that they're eating these things with all kinds of different ingredients and not sticking to the basics?

POLLAN: Yes. Basically, I mean, I'm convinced that if you eat real food, you'll be fine. If you eat...

NGUYEN: In moderation, of course.

POLLAN: In moderation, yes, but and there are a lot of -- I offer a lot of tips for moderation too but one of my suggestion is shop the periphery of the supermarket. That's where you find the foods that have been fiddled with less over the last 75 years.

NGUYEN: Like the fresh vegetables. Yes.

POLLAN: Exactly. The meat, the milk, you know, the fish. It's really once you get into the middle of the store, those canyons of packaged and processed foods that you really get into trouble. That's where all the refined grain is. That's where all the free sugars and added fat is. So, if you can avoid that and cook from the perimeter, you're going to be a lot better off.

NGUYEN: Well, but isn't it true, at least according to your book, you say crops have lost their nutritional content over the years, so in fact you have to eat much more of those vegetables to get the same kind of nutritional value as you would have in years past?

POLLAN: Yes. One of the interesting findings is the USDA's own statistics suggests that the nutritional quality of a lot of our produce has diminished over the last 50 years, for reasons we don't totally understand but probably have to do with industrial fertilizers and selecting breeds for quality, other than nutrition.

So, in fact, yes, you need to get a couple more carrots today than you would have in 1950 to get the same nutritional value. Nevertheless, that food, that real food and all the food that doesn't carry the health claims, that's in the produce section is much better for you than all of the foods that are ...

NGUYEN: Yes, but aren't they using certain types of fertilizers and steroids and all these other things whether it be the meat or the vegetables to pump them up and make them better?

POLLAN: Well, the vegetables have changed, you know, not dramatically. I mean, yes, they're grown industrially and there's a certain amount of pesticide residue unless you buy organic. But by and large, that food is still real food. The meat, yes, is not quite what it was 100 years ago in that it has grown with hormones and antibiotics and things like that.

But nevertheless, compared to the processed foods, compared to those sugary cereals screaming a you about their whole grain goodness. The real healthy food is sitting in their silence as stroke victims in the frozen section.

NGUYEN: As only an author would put it. Michael Pollan, author of "In Defense Foods." Thanks so much for spending a little time with us. And we would tell our viewers that you had toast with real butter, whole grain toast with real butter for breakfast this morning. So you are living up to what you're preaching. Thank you for your time today. Best of luck with the book.

POLLAN: Thank you very much, Betty.

NGUYEN: Well, it's the story everyone is talking about from the Tennessee tornadoes. Want you to take a look at this little guy. He was found in a field. Can you believe it? A day after the twister blew through, we have his story next.

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NGUYEN: Well, in the middle of all that debris and destruction from this week's deadly tornadoes, a tiny ray of hope.

HOLMES: Yeah, that tiny ray was 11 months old. There he is, a little boy found cold and shivering, but only minor injuries. You can see he's banged up pretty good, there. Kyson Stowell was thrown 100 yards when a tornado hit his home. His mother was actually killed.

But, President Bush met with the firefighter who found that little boy. The president surveilled tornado damage in Tennessee and promised federal help with the recovery.

NGUYEN: And we want to take you back to Washington, D.C. right now, where presidential candidate Mike Huckabee is speaking there at the Conservative Political Action Conference. Let's take a listen.

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HUCKABEE: ...they didn't really welcome them. They weren't there when my door was nailed shut upon my election as lieutenant governor in 1993, nailed shut by the Democrats in the State Capital who kept it nailed shut for the first 59 days that I was in office. And I'd get on the elevator, they'd get off, I'd walk down the hall, they'd turn the other way.

There were times when I would go into cafes and restaurants to campaign and people refused to shake my hands because I had the audacity to be a Republican in a state where that just wasn't acceptable.

Believe me, I understand what it is to go into a state capital where there had never been a general broad based tax cut in 160 years and propose one and three months later sign it into law and 94 times after that sign tax cuts into law in a state that didn't know how to hand that before. That's a conservative against headwinds that weren't easy.

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HUCKABEE: To reform welfare in a state that believes it was an entitlement, and to take half the people off and get them into jobs, not just take them off welfare, but to get them employed and to see the lowest unemployment numbers in our state and the highest employment numbers and the largest number of new jobs and a 50 percent increase in per capita income.

And the cutting capital gains tax and the elimination of the marriage penalty and the doubling of the childcare tax credit and the indexing of the income tax for inflation and the freezing of property taxes for elderly people, so they did not lose their homes because government made them end up having to move away.

I understand something about the necessity of that. I remember when legislators were on the capital steps having news conferences every day calling for -- demanding that we have a special session to raise taxes and I finally created the Tax Me More Fund. I said there's nothing in the law that says you can't pay more taxes if you feel like you're not paying enough and I had envelopes printed.

Everywhere I made a speech, I'd hold them up. I'd say, if you feel like you're not paying enough, here's an envelope. Would you like it fill it up? Here take one. Eighteen months later, $1,200 was all the people of Arkansas thought they had been undertaxed $1,000 of that was given by a liberal senator who started the whole process of screaming at it.

I spent 10.5 years term as governor fighting the corruption of a one party political machine that I happen to know a little bit about because I'm the only one who's ever run against the Clinton political machine and beat it four timeS.

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HUCKABEE: And if you think which have an easy race this year, let me assure you, we don't. I stand in this race and I stay in this race not be a fly in the ointment because I believe as Phyllis Laughley's (ph) book taught me in the 1960s, that our party, that our country is about a choice, not an echo. If people what to echo, they can get it from somewhere else.

If they want a choice, I plan to give them. There are only a few states that have voted, 27 have not. People in those 27 states deserve more than a coronation, they deserve an election. They deserve the opportunity to have their voices and their votes heard and counted. (APPLAUSE)

HUCKABEE: I know the pundits and I know what they say. Well, the math doesn't work out. Folks, I didn't major in math. I majored in miracles and I still believe in those, too.

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HUCKABEE: A few nights ago, when the tornadoes tore through the South, one of those tornadoes hit the community of Brandenburg, Kentucky. I got an e-mail yesterday from a lady named Lisa Young in Brandenburg, Kentucky. It's a pretty remarkable story because that tornado didn't just hit her town, it hit her house. But, she e-mailed me to say that despite the damage to her home, she said there was one thing that that was pretty remarkable and she wanted to make sure that I heard about it and I did.

She said she had a yard sign, a Mike Huckabee yard sign up in her yard. And she said when the tornado had gone through, she said what was amazing to her, was standing pristine without a hint of damage or even leaning, she said was that yard sign still standing in her yard. She said, "Mike, I don't know what that means, but ail all I though is that in Brandenburg, Kentucky, you're still standing." And folks, I want you to know, across America, everywhere there's still a vote to be cast, I'm still standing.

Thank you! God bless you! Thank you very much!

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HOLMES: You have been listening in to Governor Mike Huckabee, former Arkansas governor, who is speaking to the Conservative Political Action Conference in Washington, D.C., one of the largest collections of conservative activists that happens every year. He's speaking there. McCain spoke there earlier this week, President Bush spoke, as well, and Governor Mitt Romney, now no longer a candidate for president also announced to his group that he was suspending his candidacy. But, just letting you listen in to Mike Huckabee's speak, there.

You can hear more from him in our "BALLOT BOWL" coverage, that comes your way at 2:00 Eastern Time. Make sure to tune into that. That's where we give you a more long form of some of these candidate's speeches, candidates unfiltered. So, you can hear more from Mike Huckabee coming up there, so make sure you tune in.

But, for now we will toss it over to a break. We'll see you back here real soon.

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