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Senate Faces Saturday Votes on DREAM Act, DADT; Congress Approves Temporary Spending Bill; Al Qaeda Threat in Yemen; Holiday Homecoming for Troops

Aired December 18, 2010 - 07:00   ET

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T.J. HOLMES, CNN ANCHOR: Well, that controversial tax bill, it is now the law of the land. The president still needs Congress to move forward on the rest of his agenda. And they are running out of time in the year to get it done.

Also, the Senate, I say they are running out of time. Well, they are using this time, this weekend. The Senate is in session today, we're standing by, on what could be a historic vote on "Don't Ask, Don't Tell." It could be repealed this weekend.

Also, war and duty has kept the families apart for months. But now, the holiday is getting them back together. They are being reunited just in time. We're standing by for some unforgettable moments. As always, thousands of soldiers come home for the holidays.

From the CNN Center, good morning to you all. This is your CNN SATURDAY MORNING for this December 18th. This is your last weekend to shop before Christmas. I hope you're getting it done.

I'm T.J. Holmes. Glad you're right here with me this morning.

I got a developing story to tell you about on the Mexican- American border. A hundred and forty-eight -- excuse me, 141 prison inmates have escaped. This is from a Mexican state prison. This is according to a Mexican news agency. Even though the prisons in Mexico, it is awfully close to the U.S. border.

This happened in the border town of Nuevo Laredo, right across the Rio Grande River from Laredo, Texas.

The escapees made a break for it through ear a service entrance. This was just after roll call last night. Public officials say the inmates probably got help from some of the prison employees. Right now, the prison director is missing. This particular area is known for violent turf war between rival drug groups, but no immediate indication that those gangs are involved.

Also, it is going to be busy and interesting, maybe even historic day on Capitol Hill. Key Senate votes are set today on two key items, the DREAM Act and also on "Don't Ask, Don't Tell."

First up today is going to be a procedural vote on the DREAM Act. This is a controversial measure. This is the one that would give young, illegal immigrants who came here as children with their parents to this country illegally, give them a path for citizenship if they go to college or they enlist in the military.

The vote on the bill is just going to be a procedural vote to see if the measure can continue going forward. Right now, it's not clear. And some don't believe the votes are there actually to keep the DREAM Act alive in the session.

Also, Congress could be closing on an end to the ban on gay troops serving openly. Senators are planning a critical vote on the repeal of "Don't Ask, Don't Tell." They would need 60 "yes" votes to move forward. It looks like after a couple of Republicans have come out and said they would support it, that, in fact, there will be 60 votes. So, we could see the repeal of that policy. It's been in place for some 17 years -- could repeal it this weekend, maybe even today.

Meanwhile, Congress has approved a spending bill that will keep the lights on through Tuesday. Yes, the lights were going to go off for the government. The bill to keep the government going was going to expire or at least we're going to run out of money by midnight tonight.

But they did pass a spending bill that's just good for three days. Then they're going to take it up, again, next week.

The president, as you know, is watching the Senate today. His family, though, is getting ready to head out and leave him in Washington. They're heading to Hawaii for the holiday vacation. They're leaving tomorrow with the president sticking around. He signed a tax cut bill yesterday.

Millions of people are waking up today knowing that your taxes are not going to go up next year. Legislation cleared the House late Thursday. The president calls this $858 billion package great news for the American people this holiday season.

What, exactly, does it mean for you? This is what's in there, a two-year extension of those Bush era tax cuts, across the board for all wage earners. So, those who will extend for another two years.

Also, this is part of the compromise to get unemployment benefits in there. So, those will continue for another 13 months. They have extended them for another 13 months. Welcome news to a lot of people. A lot of people have been out of work for a long time in this country. Some 15 million right now are out of work.

Also, other tax cuts in there, the Social Security tax rate that's taken out of your paycheck will drop 2 percentage points for next year, from 6.2 percent to 4.2 percent.

Also, the bill lowers -- this is what the Republicans wanted, the Democrats didn't like -- lowering of the estate tax. It's also the death tax that some refer to.

On the terror threat on the Arabian Peninsula has reached a dangerous high. The administration's top counterterrorism adviser says that al Qaeda group based in Yemen now poses a greater threat than the group led by Osama bin Laden in Afghanistan and Pakistan.

Here now, our CNN Pentagon correspondent Barbara Starr.

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BARBARA STARR, CNN PENTAGON CORRESPONDENT: T.J., some remarkably candid comments about al Qaeda from John Brennan, President Obama's top adviser on homeland security and counterterrorism. Speaking to a Washington audience, he said that al Qaeda and Yemen, also known as al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula, is the major threat, a bigger threat than al Qaeda in Pakistan, of course, the part of al Qaeda run for years by Osama bin Laden.

Brennan says what's so concerning about al Qaeda in Yemen in part is they are looking to recruit westerners, Americans, Americans in the United States, that they can recruit into that part of the al Qaeda organization and train them to carry out attacks. Of course, it's only been a day or so now since Washington issued a warning for everyone to be especially vigilant during the holiday season -- T.J.

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HOLMES: All right. Thanks to our Barbara Starr.

Also, new information this morning on the scheduled South Korean military drills that have caused such attention with North Korea. South Korean military officials say the exercises will likely not be held this weekend because of bad weather. The drills were supposed to start today about seven miles off the coast of North Korea.

South Korea says the drills will take place only if the weather over at Yeonpyeong improves. North Korea has threatened to deliver a self-defensive blow to the South if the military exercises take place. Russia is getting involved as well, urging South Korea to call off those drills.

Tensions mounted, of course, between the Koreas on November 23rd, when the North shelled that island where these drills are supposed to take place. They shelled the island, which is in South Korean territory. The attack killed two marines and two civilians, another 18 people were injured.

Well, it is that time of the year you're going to see scenes like this are going to play out for the next week. Troops arriving home for the holidays. And we're going to show you some of those emotional homecomings.

It's four minutes past the hour. Stay here.

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HOLMES: Well, it's six minutes past the hour.

We turn to some severe weather across Europe this morning. Travel there is a mess from Northern Ireland to Bulgaria. Having blizzard-like conditions forced the delay or cancellation of hundreds of flights.

The situation is not much better on the ground either. You got icy roads. Forecasters don't believe the extreme weather conditions will improve much over the next few days.

Well, we got our own issues here in the U.S. as well. Reynolds Wolf is keeping an eye on that stuff for us. In particular, we're talking California.

You said this, and I had to ask you several times, if I was hearing you right, eight feet of snow.

REYNOLDS WOLF, AMS METEOROLOGIST: Eight feet of snowfall.

But again, just for clarification so our viewers will know, when we say eight feet of snowfall, if you are in Sacramento, it doesn't mean you're going to turn into Buffalo all of a sudden. Most of it is going to be limited to highs of Sierra Nevada Mountains, which is really great news if you're a skier. However, with that much snow, you are going to have the threat of avalanches over the next couple of days.

Take a look at this video -- this is from Kingvale, California, just to the west of Tahoe. It's pretty good there. Kids skiing pretty well; got some snowboarders out there. It is going to be a good time up there for the people taking to the slopes.

But I'll tell you, there will be moments when you're high up in those mountain passes where visibility may get down to zero. So, very, very tough times.

If you are making that drive up there through the high mountain passes, keep your eyes out for the California highway patrol. Those men and women are going to be working around the clock to make sure that you can travel safely. So, certainly, (INAUDIBLE) if you happen to be in a restaurant there enjoying the dinner, buy them a cup of coffee. Those people work very hard out there.

It's going to be a tough time out there, no question, towards the west, and the center of the U.S. looks pretty good. Chilly in the parts of the Northern Plains and in the Upper Midwest. But in Dallas, it's going to be nice and sunny for you.

In the Southeast, scattered showers and storms are possible with this area of low pressure. About two days ago, it looked as though this low might become a very strong nor'easter. But at this point, it does appear it's going to be moving out to the sea. So, that's probably not going to be ramping up too much. But, of course, the story out to the west is just the opposite. It's going to be rapid intensification with the rain and, of course, the snowfall.

Now, t he snow is going to be the thing that really catches your eye. They're getting the highs and getting up to eight feet. But also some heavy rainfall in parts of the San Joaquin Valley. It could cause all kinds of problems, all due to that area of low pressure. When it comes on shore, the rain is going to intensify. That big surge of Pacific moisture is going to cause the rain to really pile up in a few spots.

Several locations, especially near Kernville, back over towards Fresno, could get very intense. Kernville especially with up to eight inches of rainfall possible. Again, I mentioned rain, expected to cause some issues in terms of your creeks, your rivers, some of your smaller lakes, even areas where you have poor drainage and low-lying areas. It's going to be a problem out there.

Snowfall, that's where it gets mind-boggling, in excess of 20 inches. Again, to be more specific, some places possibly up to 80 feet of snowfall -- eight feet, not 80, eight feet of snowfall south of Reno.

But something else to mention, you might see some areas where you have some heavy snowfalls into the Cascades, perhaps even over near Mt. Shasta for the central and northern Rockies, the Wasatch range outside of Salt lake City. Our friends in Snowbird are going to be smiling a mile wide.

Not going to be smiling too much though in San Francisco because the rainfall and wind could cause a few delays at SFO, across the way over in Oakland. Same story, further to the south in Los Angeles, with LAX. Even in John Wayne, you might have a few backups, all due to the weather. Rain all the way through Saturday through Tuesday, with some clearing possible by Wednesday.

Again, a West Coast story, but it looks pretty good in the east. Kind of chilly though in some place, T.J. So, people going out along Madison Avenue making this final Christmas present picks. It could be interesting.

HOLMES: Madison Avenue, that's where you shot it --

WOLF: Are you kidding me? No way. No way at all.

HOLMES: All right, Reynolds. Appreciate it.

WOLF: One can dream though.

HOLMES: One can dream. Reynolds, appreciate it.

We are going to talk to Reynolds plenty throughout the morning.

Well, thousands of troops as we know heading home for the holidays, USO working overtime to greet them at several airports as they make their way back home, including at Atlanta's airport, just one pit stop along the way.

Reynolds Wolf spent time out there at the USO yesterday.

Our Catherine Callaway there live today where they're expecting thousands and thousands more to come through today.

Good morning to you.

CATHERINE CALLAWAY, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Good morning. Yes, we've got about 3,000 people expected today. It's going to be a very busy day. It already is. A packed house here at the USO, at the airport.

We want to take you in. This is where they come in. This morning, what we're seeing is a lot of new recruits coming in from Fort Benning and Fort Gordon.

It is a full house. We got a couple of hundred military personnel in here right now. You can see they can lounge a little bit. They can come in and read. They can get lots of food.

We've got -- a local company has donated all kinds of food here for the soldiers.

I'm going to take you back here to where the computers and televisions are. And we are going to talk to Raymond Rivera who -- we are live right now, Raymond. He has come from Fort Gordon, right?

PVT. RAYMOND RIVERA, U.S. ARMY: Yes, ma'am.

CALLAWAY: How long are you going to be off for?

RIVERA: I'm going to be off for two weeks now.

CALLAWAY: He is on his way to Chicago. So, say hey to your family, Raymond.

RIVERA: Hey, mommy.

CALLAWAY: What are you going to do when you get there?

RIVERA: Sleep, mostly. Relax with my family.

CALLAWAY: Relax.

RIVERA: Enjoy Christmas.

CALLAWAY: Yes. Well, Merry Christmas to you.

RIVERA: Merry Christmas to you, ma'am.

CALLAWAY: I know you are glad to be on your way home.

I have to tell you, T.J., a lot of these guys have been up since 6:00 or 7:00 a.m. yesterday. They haven't been to bed. So, they're really not having much time to rest. And that's why they all look a little bit tired.

But they are very excited to be going home, getting a little food, relaxing a little bit, hopping on their planes, heading to their respective homes. In about an hour, we expect a plane full of military personnel coming in from Iraq. We are going to go down there and wait if we can talk to some of those guys as well.

Back to you.

HOLMES: Oh, yes, we are going to be checking in with Catherine throughout the morning. Catherine, thank you so much. Great to see -- great to see so many of those men and woman coming home for the holidays.

So, again, to our viewers, we're going to check in with her plenty throughout the morning.

About 12 minutes past the hour now. We're coming up to the end of the year. You often see those top 10 list of this and that. There's a top 10 list of the top numbers. Yes.

We counted some for you earlier. You're going to get the top three when we come back. Stick around.

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HOLMES: All right. Thirteen minutes past the hour. Time to give you the top numbers of 2010. Yes, there's a list of top numbers as well.

Josh Levs, (INAUDIBLE) the earlier ones. Now, let's see those at the top of the list. Hello again, Josh.

JOSH LEVS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Hey, hi again to you.

There are some many top 10 lists, but this one really stands out because it's an interesting way to look back at the year. I'll recap number five and four, then I'm going to give you all three through one.

All right. This is from TIME.com. They're saying the number of the year, 5.2 percent, the amount of rubble cleared in Haiti eight months after the earthquake. Amazing.

Take a look at this -- $16.36, this is the amount per person donated that was donated to Pakistan after the floods there that ravished so much of the country throughout July.

Now, top three numbers of the year. According to TIME.com, this is number three. It's an interesting choice -- 1,951, and they're saying the number of health care related programs televised by C-Span. And they say they chose this because it's a reminder of how huge the debate was, not just in 2009, but all the way into 2010 as well, with so many debates going on about it in Congress and in Washington in general.

Number two, they are giving to WikiLeaks: 466,743. Those are the classified documents from Iraq and Afghanistan, those wars, released by WikiLeaks. And that's before hundreds of thousands more from the U.S. State Department cables were released recently.

And finally, the number one number of the year according to TIME.com, interesting choice here, you probably can't disagree with it: 206 million -- 206 million, that's the gallons of oil that leaked into the Gulf. We've got some video of what we were covering throughout so much of the year.

So, you look at it from the numbers, it is a reminder for you how long that went on, how huge it was. And again, these numbers are very interesting tour to what we all in the news business and what you all have been through as a nation this year.

I posted the whole list up on my Facebook and Twitter pages, at JoshLevsCNN. You can see the top numbers of the year.

Tell us what you think. If you think something was left out there, we'll bring those to you right here -- T.J.

HOLMES: All right, Josh, we appreciate you. Thank you so much.

LEVS: Thanks.

HOLMES: A lot of people out there, this was your last weekend, of course, to shop before Christmas. You are on a budget. A lot of people are.

If you still want to get a good gift, something memorable for the holidays, well, we're glad you tuned in. We got Clyde Anderson coming up. And I hope he delivers because I'm really teasing here, like he's going to have some good stuff to show.

He's coming up next. Going to give you some memorable stuff you can get on the budget.

It's 16 minutes past the hour.

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HOLMES: Well, I don't have to tell you, you got a week left until Christmas. So, a lot of people doing the weekend shopping this weekend, run out of time. Some people run out of money as well to buy gifts.

So, how do you make the holiday a merry one on that budget? You want to get a good gift, Clyde. Our financial analyst here with me now.

People want to get a good gift, you don't have the money for. Is this -- you just got to be creative in some ways?

CLYDE ANDERSON, FINANCIAL ANALYST: You got to be creative. That's one of the things that you do have to do. You got to think outside the box as well.

HOLMES: Outside the box. Can you -- is there a way to make things stretch for yourself, your resources?

ANDERSON: Yes. There are definitely ways to make things stretch. One of the things that we don't think about a lot of times is the meaning for the season. It's giving, but you don't have to give monetary. You know, you don't always have to give money.

You can volunteer your services. There's a lot of charities out there that need help right now. You can volunteer your services.

But you can also give in someone else's name. And that's the thing that we don't think about sometimes. You know, when you go to volunteer your time, give material goods, be creative about what you're giving, but also donating to charities.

So, you got a lot of charities out there right now that are hurting. They're looking for people to donate. They're looking for services.

HOLMES: Now, you can donate. Can you even donate -- I know, sometimes money can be donated on somebody else's behalf.

ANDERSON: Right.

HOLMES: Can you just donate goods and things like that, or even time on somebody's behalf?

ANDERSON: Well, you can -- not time, but you can donate goods. Go and clean out your closet. People don't think about that sometimes. Go and you got a lot of stuff that you're never going to use again in your house, things that you can give away. You give those things out and then you can get a receipt in someone else's name and they can have the tax write off. And that's the benefit.

HOLMES: OK. So, you got stuff around the house, is what you're telling me.

ANDERSON: Clothes.

HOLMES: People don't ever think about that.

ANDERSON: Don't think about that, clothes. And a lot of times, we do give it. But we don't think of giving it for someone else. So, give that person a certificate and say, hey, I gave so much in your name. That person can use that tax write off.

HOLMES: OK, is this something we need to be teaching kids at early age?

ANDERSON: It is. It is definitely. And get your kids involved. You think about kids inherently want to give. Sometimes, you know, we give them so much they don't think about giving. But they want to give.

So, what we need to do is get them involved. Get the family involved. Give. You know, spend that time. Do baked goods. Things like that that you can give to different people.

And think about things like this baby sitting, washing your car, cleaning your house.

HOLMES: OK. That's a good one. That's a pretty good one to all who say, I'll baby sit for free for you or something. OK, that's pretty good. ANDERSON: Especially for college students right now. You know, don't have to go broke to try to have a great Christmas. And so, provide services. I always need babysitting services -- someone to wash your car or do things for you that you normally wouldn't think about.

HOLMES: OK. We barely or we're not -- I shouldn't say "barely," we're not even to this Christmas. You're already saying we should be thinking about next Christmas?

ANDERSON: Yes, be prepared. I mean, that's the thing. A lot of people aren't prepared for the holiday and then they go broke trying to make sure to get everybody gifts. Start now.

You can do something as simple as getting an envelope, putting a dollar a day in the envelope. By Christmas, you have almost $365 that you can go ahead and use for Christmas gifts next year. You can use $2, it's nothing, you know, when you think about it. But just having a plan of being prepared for the holidays.

HOLMES: OK. This is one -- this is what we're going to wrap up on. You also need to be prepared for people being disappointed, because even though you say this, the reason for the season, we forget that. And everybody wants something.

ANDERSON: We do.

HOLMES: This is all you got me? I got this certificate. You made a donation?

ANDERSON: Right.

HOLMES: That was it? I mean, how do you handle those folks quite frankly?

ANDERSON: Well, think about this. Probably two years ago, you probably got some gifts, lots of gifts. You probably can't remember half of the gifts that you got two years ago. But if you think about sometimes someone that's done something for you, you tend to remember those a lot more. So, really, what we have to do is remember that, you know, these are the things that count. You know, if I had someone come and clean my house, I will remember that you came and clean my house, T.J.

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HOLMES: I guess it's what we can donate to you.

ANDERSON: There you go. I like that.

HOLMES: (INAUDIBLE)

All right. Clyde, we'll see if this works. But you are absolutely right. People -- it's all monetary and it's all going to the mall. You are right.

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ANDERSON: And it doesn't have to be that way.

HOLMES: So good stuff, a good reminder there. Clyde, appreciate you as always.

ANDERSON: Merry Christmas to you.

HOLMES: Excuse me -- as always, folks, you can see I'm struggling this morning trying to get this cough dealt with. I promise, I'll be better at the 8:00 hour.

All right. But still, trying to save money this holiday season, taxes could be a big key. A lot of people think about their taxes right now. The president just signed that legislation extending the Bush era tax cuts, of course.

So, taxes on the mind, and we're going to be answering your specific questions. We got a tax specialist that's going to be coming up, a tax consultant, in the 9:00 Eastern Hour. Send your questions to weekends@CNN.com. Also, send them to Facebook or Twitter. I'm at TJHolmesCNN on both. Send those -- your specific questions, we'll ask them directly to the tax specialist.

Also, they tried to get him to come to the Big Apple. Well, he showed up last night. And they did not appreciate what he did to them.

It's 23 minutes past the hour.

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HOLMES: Twenty-four minutes past the hour.

This is not how you are supposed to treat a teddy bear. You don't just toss a teddy bear down to the floor. Well, this is a good cause, good reason here. This is video, this is a hockey game. This is out of out of Calgary.

The Western Hockey League Hitmen, they sponsor annual teddy bear toss. And what they do here, leave after the first goal scored. They have everybody throw their teddy bears down and the teddy bears are collected and they go towards a charity. And we're talking 23,000 teddy bears.

They had to stop the game, I believe, Joe, it was about 40 minutes or something, I think, it took to clean all this up.

JOE CARTER, HLN SPORTS ANCHOR: To clean it up.

HOLMES: But, you know, this is a great scene to see. Everybody participated. It's amazing to me that everybody actually brought teddy bears.

Joe Carter with HLN Sports. He's actually here with me now. But very cool. They have been doing that for awhile. CARTER: Sixteen years.

HOLMES: Sixteen years.

CARTER: And look how much it's grown.

HOLMES: And what -- it's going to the local children's hospital there.

CARTER: Plenty of teddy bears.

HOLMES: Plenty of teddy bears to go around.

CARTER: So, I'm thinking like teddy bears were sold out at most stores in that area, right?

HOLMES: Yes. And most of them, I thought people just grab something from home or something. But a lot of them were brand-new, packaged and whatnot.

CARTER: Yes.

HOLMES: So, very cool story. Very cool.

Again, Joe here with me.

LeBron -- they wanted LeBron. They got him last night, didn't they? New York?

CARTER: Oh, they sure did. I mean, yes, they saw what they could have had, right?

HOLMES: Yes.

CARTER: They saw what they could have had. You know, you remember back in the summer, you know, New York City made that big campaign. Mayor Bloomberg push to get, you know, come to New York City, come on, LeBron, come to the Big Apple, be a global superstar.

And LeBron burned Cleveland, burned New York by deciding to go to South Beach. He showed up last night for the first time. Much like Cleveland fans gave him the same king of reception with the anti- LeBron signs, the anti-LeBron jerseys.

HOLMES: Booed him like crazy.

CARTER: Booed him from the very beginning, all the way until he sat on the bench. And I'll tell you what, though, LeBron, unnerved just like he was in Cleveland, had another spectacular game, sort of rose to the challenge. He was essentially sitting on the bench by the fourth quarter because Miami broke out with big old lead.

But, you know, it's just something about the garden that makes LeBron elevate his game. I found this interesting statistic. LeBron is actually the active scoring leader at Madison Square Garden, averaging more than 30 points a game. This guy doesn't play for the Knicks. He plays for the Heat.

HOLMES: This is the place that Michael Jordan loved as well. We would wear -- I'm not sure what his averages were as well, but he was way up there. But LeBron, for all the criticism, he has shown up in these big moments when he knew everybody was going to be watching. You got to so much criticism, triple double last night, unbelievable.

CARTER: Yes, 32 points. And I'm thinking about of this Heat team is that, you know, when they were assembled this summer, everybody thought, OK, they were going to win it all. No problem, hand over head, they're going to win it all. And, you know, they struggled the first two, three weeks of the season.

And ever since that Cleveland game, they sort of gelled together and they won 11 games in a row. And they're the team, the dominant team that everybody predicted they would be at the beginning of the season.

HOLMES: They look unbeatable now.

Let's turn to James Harrison, I kind of like this story. I mean, he was getting fined, for about those who don't know, he plays for the Pittsburgh Steelers. He's been fined how much this year for those hard hits?

CARTER: One hundred and twenty-five thousand dollars. He's really become the face of whatnot to do when you tackle a player in the NFL. You know that big push for safety this year in the NFL has been -- you know, don't lead with your helmet. Don't spear a quarterback.

And James Harrison has really become the example of how not to tackle. Four fines, $125,000. But Pittsburgh fans quickly come to his defense and actually started sending him money to pay those fines.

HOLMES: That's amazing. That's amazing.

CARTER: He's a millionaire.

HOLMES: A multimillionaire.

CARTER: He doesn't need that money. A lot of these donations were sent anonymously. So, he doesn't know where to send it back. So, he decided to start the James Harrison Family Foundation and what that's going to do is assist kids in emergency situations. And today is their very first event. They are going to have a brunch. Santa Claus is going to be there. It's going to be at Heinz Field. It's going to be for the kids.

But again, it started from money given by fans who don't want him to pay for fines for hitting play money.

HOLMES: That's very cool to see something come out of it. And whatever you think about the fines and the hits and so on and so forth and say he shouldn't have been fined in the first place and whatnot. But for him to do something good out of it, that's great. CARTER: Yes, absolutely.

HOLMES: Joe, good to see as always, buddy. We are going to see you again here in a couple of hours, right?

CARTER: I think so.

HOLMES: All right, Joe, good to have you as always, buddy. And we are going to be back at the top of the hour with more CNN SATURDAY MORNING. But after the break, we're going to hand it over to the doctor.

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