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Arrest Warrant Issued in 1987 Baby Kidnapping Case; MTV's 'Skins': The Psychology Behind the Uproar; 3-D TV Goes Glasses-Free; 2012 Election on Their Minds; Haiti's Papa and Baby Doc; Defending Jared Loughner; Countdown Up For Olbermann at MSNBC; Top Sports News of the Week
Aired January 22, 2011 - 08:00 ET
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RANDI KAYE, CNN ANCHOR: Good morning.
Congresswoman Gabby Giffords starts a new phase on her road to recovery today. She is being prepped for rehab in Houston. We'll tell you how doctors there plan to help her rebound from that traumatic brain injury.
We are also tracking a search for this woman. Ann Pettway is the target of an arrest warrant and she's wanted for questioning in the kidnapping of a baby in 1987. That baby grew up, found her family and is now leading the charge to get this crime solved.
And enough already. We're only a month into winter, but several states are coping with the latest in a string of snowstorms and extreme cold. Your weekend forecast is coming right up.
It's early and we are on it. From CNN center, this is CNN SATURDAY MORNING. It's January 22. Good morning, great to have you with us. I'm Randi Kaye.
Also coming up this morning, a shakeup in prime time. After years of controversy and an ugly suspension, Keith Olbermann is out at MSNBC. What exactly happened and where is one of TV's most unpredictable personalities likely to land? We have the latest developments that broke late last night.
Reality TV or borderline porn. MTV's new teen show "Skins" has advertisers worried and parents outraged. Would you let your kids watch this? Should you let your kids watch this?
And take a look at this viral video. A shopper so focused on texting she didn't see that huge fountain right in front of her. Oops. Embarrassing, yes. Worth a lawsuit? We'll break that down with our legal expert.
Just about one minute past the hour. Let's get a check on the forecast, shivering cold temperatures and plenty of snow in parts of Minnesota. Check out this iReporter's porch in Rochester, Minnesota.
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KYLE TANGUAY, CNN IREPORTER: There's so much snow we can't open our own door. There's about a foot of snow on the roof.
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KAYE: Having lived in Minnesota and worked in Minnesota for seven years, Kyle, thank you for sending that iReport. I feel your pain, I have been there.
Meteorologist Karen Maginnis live in the CNN severe weather center. I'm telling you, I have been there, in Minnesota. It's tough.
KAREN MAGINNIS, AMS METEOROLOGIST: I photograph Al's in northern Minnesota and you do that in the winter and your hands are frozen around the camera for days. There are numerous reports of frostbite and people who have really suffered with this very cold air but they do tell me you have to be pretty hearty to deal with it. We've got a little clipper system that's going to sweep across the Midwest and the central plains, central Mississippi river valley for the most part, just a couple inches because a clipper system moves by very quickly. After this clipper moves through, there's going to be another one.
Let's say good morning to St. Louis. Take a look at these images right now, kind of gray skies, the beautiful arch. Under the gloomy skies, a little bit of snowfall. The temperature right now in St. Louis is 21. St. Louis is one of those cities that has been so battered by the winter weather they have already seen almost three times what they normally see for the month. They've seen in excess of 13 inches of snowfall. You could see an additional two to four inches before it's all said and done.
On top of that, these temperatures aren't going to really be recovering until about the middle of next week. Right now Chicago is nine degrees. Chicago coming up for Sunday, just so you know. Playoffs, those temperatures only going to be in the teens. Bundle up. It's going to be cold there and in Pittsburgh.
Randi, back to you.
KAYE: Ticket or not Karen, I think I would watch it on my couch with those temperatures. Thank you.
Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords wakes up this morning in a Houston hospital. Gifford's ambulance was given a police escort from University Medical Center to the airport in Tucson yesterday.
Her office released this photo of the plane trip to Houston if you take a look there. You see the congressman's mother Gloria Giffords. She's in the center. Her husband, astronaut Mark Kelly at the left speaking with one of the nurses from intensive care.
Giffords is at Houston's memorial Herman Hospital. The medical team there specializes in penetrating head injuries like the one Gifford suffered in that January 8th shooting.
CNN senior medical correspondent Elizabeth Cohen in Houston with more.
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ELIZABETH COHEN, CNN SENIOR MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT: Randi, in the words of Gabrielle Giffords' doctors here in Houston, she's doing spectacularly. They are thrilled to see how well she is doing less than two weeks after the bullet went through her brain.
DR. RANDALL FRIESE, ASSOC. MED. DIR., UMC TRAUMA CTR.: I am happy to bring the news the transfer of Gabby from University Medical Center in Tucson here to Memorial Hermann in Houston went flawlessly. The trip was well-planned.
And I asked Mark if I could share with you -- when we were traveling through the streets of Tucson, there was several times we could hear applause in the ambulance with Gabby. And she responded very well to that -- smiling and, in fact, tearing a little bit. It was very emotional and very special.
DR. DONG KIM, DEPT. OF NEUROSURGERY, UTHEALTH: She looks spectacular in all ways. From a neurological point of view, first, she came to ICU and she was alert, awake, calm. She looked comfortable. I think we were already feeling some interaction, which is important. She's got very good movement on the left side of her body. And it was very purposeful.
And we were testing her vision and she didn't like us shining the light in her eye and wanted to keep them closed. And these are all very good signs.
She had good tone in her leg.
COHEN: Randi, here's what lies ahead for Giffords: doctors hope to get her out of intensive care as soon as possible. She's there because she has a drain that's draining fluid from around her brain. And as long as she has that drain, they say she has to be in intensive care.
After that, they'll try to get her into a rehabilitation hospital so that full time she's doing rehab, learning to walk, dress herself, learning how to speak again, if that's what she needs. They say she has a long road ahead. They predict it could be as long as four to six months or possibly even longer -- Randi.
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KAYE: Elizabeth Cohen for us in Houston.
We are getting a new glimpse of the man accused in the Tucson massacre. Six people died, 13 including the congresswoman, were wounded. This videotape was recorded about seven years ago and that's young Jared Lee Loughner playing the saxophone. The man who videotaped the footage is the father of one of Loughner's former classmates.
This is Jared Loughner one year later now a high school freshman with his hair grown out you can see there but still playing the sax. It's a far cry from the image we have all have come to know, the infamous mug shot of the 22-year old alleged gunman. Loughner is actually due in court Monday for another preliminary hearing.
Listen to this, one newly elected lawmaker is taking no chances after the attack on Arizona's Gabriel Giffords. Republican Congresswoman Renee Ellmers from North Carolina says she plans on carrying a handgun at public events from now on. Ellmers says she has a concealed weapons permit.
She's not the only elected official from North Carolina packing heat in fact. Congressman Heath Shuler says he's been armed since receiving death threats back in 2009.
The FBI has now joined the investigation of a young woman who was kidnapped from the hospital when she was just three weeks old. An arrest warrant has been issued in North Carolina for the woman at the center of the case. She is Ann Pettway. She raised the girl. Pettway is on probation for attempted embezzlement. That's what led to the arrest warrant. Her family is shocked.
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KAPEL PETTWAY, ANN PETTWAY'S UNCLE: Thinking why would Ann do something like that? I don't know.
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KAYE: Carlina White's mother never gave up hope that her baby would be found. They were finally reunited this week after 23 years. Carlina actually helped solve the case herself with help from an organization that tracks missing children and also helps with those missing investigations.
A major victory for law enforcement against organized crime. That's how this week's massive bust of alleged mobsters is being characterized. The numbers are absolutely staggering, 127 people charged in what's being called the largest Federal mob crackdown in decades.
The crimes range from extortion to murder. They nabbed guys with names like The Claw, Fat Dennis and Junior Lollipops. The men are from several suspected crime families in New York, New Jersey and New England. Many of the charges are for crimes dating back to the 1980s and 1990s.
The funeral mass for Sargent Shriver is set to begin a few hours from now in Potomac, Maryland. His daughter, Maria Shriver spoke at the wake held last night. Vice President Joe Biden will speak at the service today. Shrive will be buried in Hyannis, Massachusetts in the same cemetery as his wife Eunice Kennedy Shriver. Sargent Shriver died Tuesday at the age of 95.
There's going to be a memorial service Monday for two Miami-Dade police officers killed in the line of duty this week. It will start out at the Miami Heat's arena. The officers were killed serving a murder warrant.
Officers Roger Castillo and Amanda Haworth are the fifth and sixth Miami-Dade officers killed in the line of duty in the past five years. Haworth is the first female officer on the force ever killed on the job.
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MADELYNN DELOSCUETO, SLAIN OFFICER'S COUSIN: Roger is just a wonderful, wonderful person, all around. He was a wonderful father and for the last 16 years, he's been such a big part of our life.
ROBERT HAWORTH, SLAIN OFFICER'S FATHER: I know she'd only let me in on the tip of the iceberg because I probably couldn't handle knowing what she was doing. But she would shield me from it. I probably only knew half of what she really was doing. But I was ever so proud of her.
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KAYE: The suspect was also killed in that shootout. Two other officers were wounded in the exchange of gunfire.
Now watch this. Winter weather is making for some tough travels. Here is the beginning of a traffic accident yesterday near Milton, Canada that was caught on tape. The driver of the car was able to steer clear of trouble luckily, but another accident involved -- wow, look at that, almost 40 vehicles. Police say a woman died in that pile-up.
Keith Olbermann is out. The MSNBC anchor announced last night that he's leaving the network immediately. He gave no real specifics for the split but did say he's considered walking away before. NBC issued a statement just wishing him well.
And Ivanka Trump, well, she's pregnant. She announced it on Twitter of course. Her father Donald Trump told "People" magazine that he's sure Ivanka will be a great mom. Ivanka, of course, is one of her dad's co-stars on "The Apprentice." She designs jewelry among other things.
MTV has done it again. The new reality series that's provoking outrage, ratings and the question, is it too intense for teens? We'll show you the controversy, next.
Plus, new technology, 3-D without the glasses. Yes, believe it. We'll tell you when and where it will be available.
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KAYE: Good morning. Welcome back, 14 minutes after the hour.
Controversy may be the easiest way to get TV ratings, but now one new show is coming under increasing fire for going too far some say. It's MTV "Skins." A quick warning, some of the material you are about to see may not be appropriate if you have little ones in the room. (VIDEO CLIP, "SKINS")
KAYE: Too much do you think? One parents group is likening it to kiddy porn and a major advertiser actually pulled out after just one episode. Joining me now to talk about the possible effects of the show like this and how it might affect children is psychologist Eric Fisher. Good morning to you. So you have seen the show?
ERIK FISHER, PSYCHOLOGIST: I've seen clips and trailers and looked at the Internet website.
KAYE: What do you think?
FISHER: It's disturbing. It's disturbing and I don't look at the standpoint of that this show is. I look at the standpoint of this is what our culture is becoming and this is the culture that our teens and kids are emerging into. So I'm more likely to have us let's look back at ourselves and see this rather than shoot the messenger. The messenger is something that people are paying advertising dollars for that the question for Taco Bell is, why did they wait until after the first show to pull their advertising?
KAYE: We'll get to Taco Bell in just a second. I want to ask you, these are actors. This is a scripted program. The youngest actor is 15. In an upcoming episode, you have a 17-year-old actor running naked from behind, away from the camera. I guess, you know, how much is too much? Do you agree, like some folks are saying, that this can be likened to kiddy porn?
FISHER: I think, I would say I think this is, in some ways can really be seen as pornographic. I think it's something that doesn't respect the individuals in the show. There's art and there's a reason we have certain ages that we delineate what is adulthood and what's not by understanding human development and when people can really make decisions and informed decisions about their own behaviors. That's why we set some of those arbitrary ages. But 15, 17, that's too young for people to be deciding in a culture that endorses sensationalism.
KAYE: Let me read you a statement from MTV which it did release. It reads in part, "Skins" is a show that addresses real-world issues confronting teens in a frank way. We review all of our shows and work with all of the producers on an ongoing basis to ensure our show comply with laws and community standards."
What do you think the danger really is for children and for young teens who might be watching this? As a psychologist, what is your concern?
FISHER: There's always going to be a segment of society that's going to engage in risky behaviors. When you open it up to society to see though, it endorses it. It makes it OK. It gives people who might not have had those ideas, some of those ideas and then to me, it sends the message that this is OK and this is acceptable, which is very disruptive.
KAYE: We did mention Taco Bell. As you said, they pulled out after just one episode saying this: the show is not a fit for our brand and have moved our advertising to other MTV programming. But is this really worse than shows like "Gossip Girl" and the others?
FISHER: I think that will remain to be seen. It sounds like MTV is going to rein things back and they got the sensationalism they want. They had three million viewers. That was more than I think double what "Jersey Shore" had. They have already got a good base. They have the website going. All these things are going that will build viewership.
Is that healthy? It's all relative. We all have to look at what are our kids exposed to? Are we as parents sitting down with them and watching? Are we talking with them about their attitudes and beliefs? Are we meeting their friends, girlfriends, boyfriends and really getting involved in their culture and understanding?
KAYE: I'm glad you brought that up because just to play devil's advocate, I mean couldn't a show like this be used really as a tool? Maybe there would be something positive to come out of it if maybe the parents watch it with their children or maybe they watch it separately if their teens want to watch it on their own and then maybe they come together and have a discussion.
Is it possible that there could be something there to be positive about?
FISHER: Absolutely. I think it's the extremist of it. "Glee" had a show on back last year I wrote a blog on about they even brought the point up that sometimes you go too far and sometimes we have to rein it back in.
We, as a culture, especially in the ones that are defining and leading that culture, have to make the decision of what's healthy and appropriate and not let advertising dollars lead it, not let what our kid wants, kids want necessarily because we are their guides. We are their mentors and we are their teachers. It's up to us to make the decision of what is most appropriate and healthy in some ways for them without controlling what they do.
KAYE: Very interesting discussion, Erik Fisher.
FISHER: Thanks for having me.
KAYE: Thank you very much.
So you can throw those glasses away. We'll show you which gaming system has all the 3-D benefits without the required glasses.
Plus, gearing up for 2012. President Obama is getting ready. We'll show you what big name GOP hopefuls may run against.
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KAYE: Some students at a private Tennessee school are getting major high-tech exposure. Starting next year, students at the web school of Knoxville will be required to have an iPad. The school's technology director hopes the iPad will eventually replace all of the textbooks. Parents will be able to set up payment plans for the iPads as well.
It is one of the most talked about innovations in the video game and television industry, the development of 3-D technology. One of the drawbacks however has been the glasses needed for viewing. Now Nintendo is offering a handheld video game system that doesn't require the glasses. That's right, it doesn't, a change that could have a huge impact on the industry. But there is a caveat.
For more, let's bring in our digi9tal lifestyle expert, Mario Armstrong. He joins us now from Washington.
Good to see you, Mario.
MARIO ARMSTRONG, CNN DIGITAL LIFESTYLE EXPERT: Good to see you as well Randi. How are you?
KAYE: I'm well, thank you. So tell me, what is the problem with this soon to be released Nintendo system? Some people concerned about children watching movies on it?
ARMSTRONG: So people are concerned not only about the movies Randi, but they're also showing some concern about the actually games themselves because this is the first time that we have a handheld gaming system.
It's the Nintendo 3-DX which is very popular with kids, hugely popular, very successful and this will be the first time you can play a video game in your hand without wearing 3-D glasses, but be able to see images from the game in 3-D.
And apparently - not apparently, the company, Nintendo was a little proactive in putting a warning out there saying that kids under the age of six may not, it may not be advisable for them to play the games in 3-D on their system. That created a whole flurry of concern.
KAYE: So they are worried about their eyes and eyestrain, I guess?
ARMSTRONG: Yes, the developmental stages of these young kids and whether or not there's eyestrain. Here is the interesting thing. The American Optometric Association, they same forward and I'm going to read specifically what they say here. They say that they believe that the 3-D mode is safe for kids under six, if their visual systems, the kids' visual system is developing normally.
I don't know how we all know that as parents other than the typical eye exams and things that we do. However, they do say one interesting note real quick Randi, they say that any kid that's having any difficulties watching 3-D movies or playing say this new 3-DS (ph), system, if they have problems with that, that may be a sign of undetected vision disorders.
So in a sense, it also may actually help us, as parents, understand if our kids are actually having other vision problems as you may not be able to detect.
KAYE: All right. Let's talk about 3-D televisions. One of the biggest complaints about those we know, is having to buy the 3-D glasses.
ARMSTRONG: Yes. Yes.
KAYE: Ohh, that is so you.
ARMSTRONG: A little sexy.
KAYE: So what is the word on the glasses? Are we not going to have them anymore? We're not going to need them.
ARMSTRONG: You know Randi, this is interesting because this 3-D appetite is really being pushed a lot by the TV manufacturers and the Hollywood studios. But there seems to be an increasing, somewhat increasing appetite from consumers. However, we don't really - really excited about wearing the glasses.
At CES a couple of weeks ago, the big trade show, we saw glassless 3-D prototypes. Toshiba, Sony and other companies are looking at developing glassless 3-D television which really was an amazing thing to kind of see. It broke down that barrier of needing to have glasses.
The problem is, say you want to watch a movie over your friend's house, are you going to have enough glasses for everyone? These glasses aren't cheap. They can host $100 or more.
KAYE: I'm sure you have a basket of them at home.
ARMSTRONG: I'm carrying them in my pocket now just in case the world decides to go 3-D on me. I don't want to miss anything.
KAYE: And for your Super Bowl party I'm sure. You're all stocked up.
ARMSTRONG: Right.
KAYE: So but the question is for anyone who might be the market for a 3-D TV, if the glasses are going to go away, is there any point in buying a 3-D TV?
ARMSTRONG: Great question. No, I think right it's still - look, here is the thing. I think you should still what I called future proof yourself. In other words, if you are making a major television investment in your home, you should be looking at televisions that can be 3-D capable. I don't think we are going to get away from glasses for at least another two years where it's really mass market, maybe even further out than that.
So I don't think it's a wait approach right now. I still think that you should buy the television that is best for your home. But look for those with 3-D features or more importantly, smart TVs that can connect your television through the Internet. KAYE: What else is hot in terms of TVs and computers? What are we seeing?
ARMSTRONG: It's the building of both of those worlds and in that case, we call that holograms. And you may recall on CNN when Wolf Blitzer did the hologram.
KAYE: How can we forget?
ARMSTRONG: It's a famous moment. It's really something that's happening more pervasive than I think a lot of people know.
For example, Cisco has really been leading the charge in this space doing these holograms. A you can see here, we are talking about a physical person being on a stage, beaming in an individual from a remote location, but looks like they are physically on the same stage together addressing the audience.
So this is a real hologram technology that Cisco has been really pushing. They're the same people behind telepresence and I think this will continue to evolve. It will probably start mostly in corporate and enterprise and businesses and then will trickle down from there.
KAYE: Mario Armstrong, great to see you.
ARMSTRONG: Good to see you, too, Randi.
KAYE: Have a great Saturday.
ARMSTRONG: You do the same.
KAYE: Join us every Saturday at this time as our digital lifestyle expert Mario Armstrong -- or as I like to call him, "Super Mario" -- gives us the scoop on the latest technology.
We'll be right back.
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KAYE: Half past the hour. Welcome back everyone. I'm Randi Kaye. Thanks for starting your morning with us.
Checking top stories for you, federal authorities are joining the hunt for the woman suspected of abducting an infant from a New York hospital more than 23 years ago. Ann Pettway is wanted for a probation violation. Police believe she may have kidnapped Carlina White back in 1987.
Oprah, Bono and Vice President Joe Biden all expected to be there for Sargent Shriver's funeral service. It gets started less than two hours from now in Potomac, Maryland. Shriver was the founding director of the Peace Corps and father of former California first lady Maria Shriver. He died Tuesday.
And in Kabul a political stand-off between Afghan lawmakers and President Hamid Karzai; Karzai wants to postpone tomorrow's scheduled inauguration of new parliament members as charges of election fraud are investigated. Critics say delaying the inauguration would violate Afghan law.
It seems like it's never too early to start thinking about the next election. Of course, I'm talking about the 2012 presidential election, both President Obama and several of the possible Republican challengers already making some plans.
CNN deputy political director Paul Steinhauser joins me now from Washington. Good morning, Paul.
PAUL STEINHAUSER, CNN DEPUTY POLITICAL DIRECTOR: Hey, good morning Randi. Never -- never too early for me. I've been thinking about this for awhile. But --
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KAYE: I'm sure. You know, the President --
STEINHAUSER: Yes.
KAYE: -- of course, he's probably thinking about right now the State of the Union which is just in a few days but he's also thinking long term of course, 2012.
STEINHAUSER: Yes, number one on his the to-do list in the State of the Union, you're right, that's coming up on Tuesday. But yes, we had big some news this week just in the last day or two about the President's re-election effort.
It was announced that they're going to set up shop in Chicago. Again, remember, that's his hometown, that's where the President had his -- headquarters for his campaign last time around when he was running for president. They are going to set up shop there probably in late March, early April. Some big names from the White House and some big names from Democratic National Committee are going to go there and start to work on the President's re-election campaign.
And also, around that time, you're going to see the President formally file papers for re-election. But does this mean we're going to see the President campaigning nonstop? The White House says no. Take a listen to Robert Gibbs, the Press Secretary.
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ROBERT GIBBS, WHITE HOUSE PRESS SECRETARY: Just because the President sets up the machinery of ultimately running for re-election it does not mean that you're going to see the President doing a ton of political re-election events. That's just the -- the nature of the way these things work is, you've got to have -- you -- you've got to set up a -- a -- a legal mechanism by which to begin to fund something like this. You have to -- you have to get people in place.
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STEINHAUSER: You know, all that said, we said it was a slower start to this -- to this -- to this election presidential cycle. Well, it seems it's now starting to speed up -- Randi.
KAYE: And Paul, what about the -- the battle for the GOP spot. What's happening there?
STEINHAUSER: Yes, fascinating. Some brand-new developments. Let's start with Rudy Giuliani, the former New York City mayor. Remember, he ran last time and did not do so well. Well, listen, he's been making the talk show circuits the last couple of days and he says, you know what, "The doors are wide open. I'm not closing any doors to running again." Making another bid, he in fact, told our Piers Morgan that if Sarah Palin runs that would make him more likely to run because she is conservative and he's moderate and maybe he would standout.
You can watch that entire interview with Rudi Giuliani at Piers Morgan on Monday night.
Let's also talk about Michele Bachmann, the congresswoman from Minnesota, a darling, a favorite of the Tea Party Movement. She helped start-up that Tea Party Caucus in the House. Where was she last night? Iowa. Iowa of course goes first in presidential primary count this season. And she said that her response yesterday in Iowa has her thinking more seriously about running for president.
So Randi, it's definitely heating up on all sides.
KAYE: Yes, she's certainly getting a lot of press attention.
All right, Paul Steinhauser for us. Paul, good to see you. Thank you.
STEINHAUSER: Thank you.
KAYE: And we invite you to tune in to CNN Tuesday night to watch President Obama's State of the Union address. Our prime time coverage with "The Best Political Team on Television" begins at 7:00 p.m. Eastern. Then President Obama's State of the Union address at 9:00 followed by the Republican response and a full wrap up with reaction and analysis anchored by Anderson Cooper.
Don't miss a minute of the action CNN Tuesday night starting at 7:00 p.m. Eastern Time.
Before Haiti's "Baby Doc", there was "Papa Doc" and he also ruled with an iron fist. Our "Morning Passport" takes us inside a family dictatorship that lasted 30 years.
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KAYE: Welcome back.
Nadia Bilchik, joining me again for our "Morning Passport." And you're talking about Haiti this morning, and the return of "Baby Doc" after what, 25 years in exile. But this dictatorship did not start with him. NADIA BILCHIK, CNN EDITORIAL PRODUCER: No. You know, you talk about the influence of a father over son and the environment that he grew up. And "Papa Doc" got his name because he actually was a medical doctor. He got his degree in Haiti and then went to Michigan University and did a year of public health.
KAYE: So he's "Baby Doc's" father?
BILCHIK: He's "Baby Doc's" father. So "Baby Doc", "Papa Doc", father doctor came back to Haiti and worked on typhus and malaria. So that -- then became President in 1957. In 1959, "Papa Doc" had a heart attack. And there's a belief that the heart attack caused a level of dementia. Maybe that would explain some of his unbelievably strange behavior.
KAYE: Right.
BILCHIK: So he introduces Buddhism like he was told that one of his opponents had turned into a black dog. I mean, first of all he believed it.
KAYE: Wow.
BILCHIK: And then he had all the black dogs in Haiti shot.
KAYE: Because he thought it might be one of his opponents.
BILCHIK: I mean that kind of mentality. Then he had an opponent's head brought to him in ice so that he can commune with the spirit and kept that head in his office. I mean, that was "Papa Doc's" mentality. Over 30,000 people are said to have died in Haiti during his dictatorship.
KAYE: So he wasn't well liked, OK.
BILCHIK: He -- right, exactly. And ex- you know misappropriated large amounts of funds. You know, last week we spoke about a kleptocracy, the stealing government of the Ben Ali of Tunisia. This was a kleptocracy on mammoth proportions in terms of what he actually did stole, torture. This is "Papa Doc", the father.
KAYE: Right. And then you -- now, you hear "Baby Doc", the son --
BILCHIK: Equally.
KAYE: -- "Baby Doc" Duvalier who is charged with corruption and theft. And so what is the story there? Did he -- did he follow his father's footsteps?
BILCHIK: Very much so. And you think about growing up in that home where a father in 1964 declares himself president for life. So yes, when he dies -- when "Papa Doc" dies in 1971, the son becomes president at just 19 years old, "Baby Doc." No formal education unlike his father, becomes president, rules with an iron fist. And the alleged things that he's done, things like selling body parts for profit as dead Haitians. Haiti, as we know, impoverished country has a $3 million wedding. He's very affluent. He's known as a playboy; very lavish in his lifestyle. And right now, we know the human rights abuses are being leveled against him for all kinds of things.
KAYE: And -- and he was very wealthy, though, "Baby Doc" wasn't he?
BILCHIK: "Baby Doc" --
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BILCHIK: -- is very wealthy, they say a lot of drug money. And we don't know, still because the story goes Randi, that he was living in Paris in a one-bedroom apartment. And again, this is what people are saying is that his return to Haiti is to claim some of the money that was frozen.
But there's such a twist to this tale, 12th of January, 2010, what happens? The Haiti earthquake, that's the day that he's supposed to get some of that money unfrozen from his Swiss bank account.
KAYE: About $6 million.
BILCHIK: And the exact day that it happens, Haiti tribunal says there's this huge you cannot get your money. Talk about timing.
KAYE: It sounds like a soap opera, I'll tell you. But we'll have to continue this discussion.
BILCHIK: Yes.
KAYE: All right, Nadia. Thank you.
Trying the Tucson tragedy -- we'll take a closer look at how the defense team may be preparing for one of the most difficult cases in recent history. We sort out the long legal process. That's next.
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KAYE: Welcome back.
Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords started the next phase of her recovery at a rehab center in Houston yesterday. Her doctors say she is now able to stand with some help less than two weeks after being shot in the head. Giffords alleged shooter is due in court Monday.
A federal grand jury in Tucson has formally indicted Jared Lee Loughner on three counts of attempted murder. This is the beginning of what is expected to be a very long legal process for Loughner.
Joining me to talk about this case and more is Sunny Hostin from "In Session" on our sister network truTV.
Good morning, Sunny.
SUNNY HOSTIN, CNN LEGAL CONTRIBUTOR: Good morning, Randi, how are you?
KAYE: I'm well, thank you.
So let's talk about Loughner. How -- can you defend a person like this, with a clear conscience?
HOSTIN: Well, absolutely. I mean, that's what defense attorneys do. I think most defense attorneys Randi, believe in the system. They believe that the government has the burden of proof to prove their case beyond a reasonable doubt. And that everyone is entitled to a defense. And that's what's going on here.
KAYE: And so -- I mean, he -- he has pretty much laid the ground work for an insanity defense. We've seen the -- the pictures of him that he had developed with the G-string and the gun, that creepy video that he -- he played from the -- that he recorded on the campus of his college. How difficult will it be to prove him insane?
HOSTIN: Well, you know an insanity defense is always very difficult to prove. They are rarely successful. But I think the fact that Judy Clarke, the nation's most preeminent defense attorney in death penalty cases gives us a clue that insanity will be his defense here. She's been very successful with that defense.
People are calling her, Randi, a -- a one-woman dream team. She's represented Ted Kaczynski, the Unabomber; Susan Smith, the woman who drown her two sons. I think most people recall that case. Even Zacharias Moussaoui was, you know, defended by Judy Clarke. And she got three of them off in terms of the death penalty.
And so if anyone can prove an insanity defense, it would be this dream team attorney.
KAYE: And if he is proven insane, if they do go for that, does he automatically avoid jail time?
HOSTIN: He does not automatically avoid jail time. You know, he would, perhaps be placed, if found guilty and convicted, be placed in a mental institution. If he is still found guilty and not legally insane at the time that this happened, it could affect his sentence. He would perhaps not be given the death penalty and perhaps be given life in prison, because insanity is really a mitigating factor.
And so certainly, I think that this defense, Randi, is going to be all about insanity. We've seen his mug shot. We've heard his friends discuss how he sort of just started acting very strangely, oddly. His parents have indicated that there were some issues. The college he went to indicated that they thought he needed a mental health assessment. The insanity defense is the defense here.
KAYE: Right.
Let's talk about this reunion. Carlina White missing since 1987; all those years later, now she's finally found her family. Federal investigators have now joined the search for Ann Pettway, the woman who allegedly raised her as her own.
The order for her arrest though is actually for probation violations on attempted embezzlement charges. So what does this mean for this Ann Pettway if she's found?
HOSTIN: Well, certainly the FBI is investigating. And kidnapping, Randi, has no statute of limitations. And so even though she has this sort of probation violation warrant out for her. My -- I suspect that that is the way to get her back into the system where she can be charged with kidnapping.
And let's face it. I think the evidence is very clear given Carlina White's story that this woman abducted her as a child. And so, I think that kidnapping charges, federal kidnapping charges are on the way.
KAYE: Yes because she'll be a pretty good witness. I mean she has said that the woman couldn't provide her with a birth certificate and she had lost her own baby and so then she brought her home as her own.
HOSTIN: That's right. I mean she would be the star witness. She certainly says that she was abused by this woman. That she knew that this just wasn't her family. I mean she really cracked her own kidnapping case which is just so unusual, I think. We all are just so floored by that.
And so, you know, in terms of proving a kidnapping charge, I think she's going to be a star witness. May not be such a difficult case -- Randi.
KAYE: Sure.
Let's talk about this -- what we call the fountain lady. This woman became an Internet sensation. I'm sure lots of viewers have seen her after she fell into a fountain at a mall while texting. She wasn't happy apparently with how the security reacted to her. They didn't help her. She said they laughed at her.
So she decided to come forward and bring attention to the dangers of texting and walking. But as you know, one problem, she's got a laundry list of legal issues.
HOSTIN: She really does. I mean, she apparently has been convicted of retail theft and she recently was just in court for another charge of stealing credit cards from a friend and charging $5,000 at two local stores, I believe it was at Target and at Zales.
She's been in court not for this, but for her laundry list of theft charges. I think it's very interesting that she found an attorney that was willing to represent her in an alleged suit against the security people there at the mall.
But I mean it definitely is a telling tale for those of us, like myself, that enjoy walking and texting at the same time.
KAYE: Sure. We have all been there. But hopefully, we don't have all those legal problems behind us as well.
All right. Sunny, great to see you. Have a great day.
HOSTIN: You, too Randi.
KAYE: Thank you.
Moments in sports that made you go wow. We have the best of the week lined up for you.
Plus a city crippled by crime firing a bunch of police officers and firefighters. We'll find out what really is going on in Camden, New Jersey.
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KAYE: HLN's sports anchor, Joe Carter joining me with the sports of the week. I saw you dancing to that music there.
JOE CARTER, HLN SPORTS ANCHOR: Love Lady Gaga.
KAYE: I know. Don't you?
CARTER: Big fan.
KAYE: See.
CARTER: Love the meat dress at the MTV awards.
KAYE: Oh, yes. That was a hit.
So what do you have for us this morning?
CARTER: Well, we're talking about a little tennis at the Australian Open. You love tennis?
KAYE: I do.
CARTER: I like it myself, big fan. Well, the Americans are not doing very well this year at the Australian open. Just for the fourth time since the open era began, there are no American women left in the round of 16. And there's now just one American man left in this tournament and that's Andy Roddick because John Isner lost this morning.
We saw Venice Williams go down yesterday. She lasted just seven points into her match on Friday before she had to withdrawal herself from the tournament because injury. Now she said she injured the muscle that flexes the hip.
KAYE: Yes. That psoas muscle.
CARTER: And this (INAUDIBLE). KAYE: It's a killer.
CARTER: Oh, my goodness.
KAYE: Yes.
CARTER: She's clearly in pain. That's the first time she has ever removed herself from a major. You could see in the video there, she was like grimacing.
Now she says she typically plays through injuries. But this time the pain was just way too much. And this seven-time grand slam winner has never won at the Australian. So she's going to have to wait another year.
KAYE: Oh, that's too bad for her.
CARTER: And in golfing news, this is a story that's just really unusual. Padraig Harrington was disqualified from a tournament in Abu Dhabi after handing in a false round one score card. What he did is basically he did not call a penalty on himself.
Now the infraction happened. You'll see in the video when the back of his hand brushes his golf ball and moves it a fraction of an inch. Now he said he thought it rolled back into -- he thought the ball rolled back in its original position, so he didn't report it. But the television replay showed otherwise.
And the kicker to the story is that a TV viewer watching at home saw the infraction so they e-mailed tournament officials. They alerted Harrington and then disqualified him.
KAYE: Who is that person?
CARTER: He doesn't want to come forward, I don't think.
KAYE: I mean you know Harrington is going to go and try and find that person and say, man.
CARTER: Really, it's like -- it's literally like three dimples on a ball when it moves.
KAYE: Wow, someone with a good eye.
CARTER: So tough call but that's the rules of the rules, I guess.
KAYE: Sure.
CARTER: And very good video out of Boston last night. I heard you can sit courtside at any given game. You really feel like you are part of the game itself. Look at this guy. He literally has a moment with Shaquille O'Neal.
KAYE: Really. It's like a big bear hug. CARTER: I mean you can call Shaquille a bear because the guy is. I mean he's 7'1, 325 pounds and literally is laying on that man. And if you notice in the video towards the bottom of the screen --
KAYE: He just keeps hugging him.
CARTER: The kids, the kids -- look at the kids face.
KAYE: Oh, yes. That's great.
CARTER: Like this is the coolest thing that's ever happened. They're going to go to school on Monday and they're going like, you're never going to believe what happened to me Friday night. Shaquille O'Neal landed right next to us.
CARTER: Boston ended up winning the game. Shaquille then actually left the game because of a hip injury.
KAYE: Oh, not from that, though.
CARTER: No, not from that.
KAYE: OK. All right. Joe Carter. Thank you.
CARTER: Good to see you.
KAYE: Good to see you, too.
We are taking a look at extreme parenting at the top of the hour. I'm talking about parents who go overboard on some of their child- rearing methods. You decide on this one.
It's called co-sleeping; mom and dad sharing a bed with the kids. We have that coming up at the top of the hour.
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KAYE: Keith Olbermann has unexpectedly signed off from his show on cable's MSNBC. He made the announcement late last night but he's done. It ends a sometimes tumultuous run at MSNBC but he leaves with the network's highest rated show.
Joining me now, on the phone from Washington, to put this all in perspective this morning for us is Howard Kurtz, host of CNN's "RELIABLE SOURCES."
Howard, good morning. I know you had a late night last night covering this so we really appreciate you joining us.
First, let me get your reaction to this.
HOWARD KURTZ, CNN HOST, "RELIABLE SOURCES" (via telephone): Well, I was covering it for "The Daily Beast." And I must say, though I didn't know it was coming, I am not surprised. This bitter divorce, Randi was inevitable. Just a couple of months ago, as you may know, Olbermann in a knockdown, drag-out clash with his bosses at NBC and MSNBC over that suspension that he endured for contributing money to a couple of Democratic candidates. He threatened to go public, to go on other shows and blast the network, the network president -- MSNBC president, I should say.
Phil Griffin in turn threatened to fire Olbermann if he that. The wounds had never really healed from that and indeed from battles that have gone on for a couple of years between this very talented, very smart, very strong-willed and often very abrasive host and the people who were in charge of that network.
KAYE: So is there anything that you've been -- I mean have you been getting any information in terms of what might have just set this off yesterday, suddenly?
KURTZ: It wasn't that sudden. I'm told that this actually had been agreed to about a week ago. And I think we can't -- although I am told by sources at MSNBC that this is not related to the fact that next week Comcast is going to come in and the cable giant is taking over NBC and MSNBC from General Electric.
Olbermann certainly knew that the more buttoned-down corporate culture at Comcast would not be a good fit with his sometimes incendiary style of broadcasting and he -- the guy is fiercely uses independence. That's why he had so many fights with his NBC bosses.
And so, I think, I am told, it's mutual to this degree. I mean Olbermann may well have been pushed. The guy had a $30 million, four- year contract and he sure wasn't dying to leave.
KAYE: Right.
KURTZ: But at the same time, I think he may have seen the handwriting on the wall.
KAYE: All right. Very interesting stuff, Howard Kurtz. We'll continue to follow it with you. Thank you.
