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Demanding Justice for Trayvon; "Stand Your Ground" as a Defense; Interview With Florida State Rep. Dennis Baxley; French Gunman's Final Stand; Pope's "Journey of Hope"; Whitney Houston's Death; First Gold Rush in the U.S.; George Zimmerman Revealed; Martin Shooting Sparks Legal Questions; TechShop Turns Dreams to Reality
Aired March 24, 2012 - 08:00 ET
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RANDI KAYE, CNN ANCHOR: From CNN Center, this is CNN SATURDAY MORNING. It's 8:00 a.m. in the East, 5:00 a.m. in the West. Hello, everyone. I'm Randi Kaye.
Our top story, the reaction to Trayvon Martin's death. The teen gunned down by a neighborhood watchman in Sanford, Florida, last month. I'll talk with a Florida legislator who helped write the controversial "Stand Your Ground" law and we'll look at another controversial case where the law was used.
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KANINA JAMES, HUSBAND KILLED: What person brings a gun to a park when there's children?
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KAYE: Also later the Pope makes his first visit to Mexico and is calling on Catholics to resist the temptation of violent drug traffickers.
And a lot of mobile apps allow us to keep up with our friends. Now some new ones want to help you cozy up to strangers. We'll see how, coming up.
You're watching CNN SATURDAY MORNING where news doesn't take the weekend off.
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KAYE: Let's get started with our main bar. Our big story that we investigate from all angles to give you context and analysis.
The death of Trayvon Martin. As the national fury grows vigils and marches are spreading throughout the U.S. Demonstrators wearing hoodies and holding Skittles have become the trademark symbol for people demanding justice for Trayvon.
George Zimmerman admitted shooting Martin saying that he acted in self-defense. Since the shooting last month Zimmerman has been out of sight but last night his attorney Craig Sonner broke the silence. Here's what he told our Anderson Cooper.
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ANDERSON COOPER, ANCHOR, "ANDERSON COOPER 360": What has your client told you about the night he shot Trayvon Martin?
CRAIG SONNER, GEORGE ZIMMERMAN'S ATTORNEY: That I believe he -- he should have made a statement to the police at that time. I think he did. I don't know for -- I don't know for a fact because I haven't seen the police reports on this case. I have not discussed the evening, of what occurred at that time. I think that'll come out through the investigation process done by law enforcement.
COOPER: You haven't discussed any of the details of that night with him?
SONNER: No.
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KAYE: Now, let's get you up to speed in the shooting of Trayvon Martin. Here's a quick timeline of the events.
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KAYE (voice-over): The story starts in Sanford, Florida near Orlando. On February 26th, 17-year-old Trayvon Martin was shot and killed by a self-appointed neighborhood watchman. Witnesses told police they heard a scuffle, a cry for help, and a gunshot. When police arrive on the scene, they found this man, George Zimmerman, holding the gun that killed Martin. He had a bloody nose and a wound on the back of his head. Zimmerman tells police it's self-defense.
The only thing in Trayvon Martin's hand was a bag of Skittles. On March 9th, 12 days after the killing, Trayvon's father publicly called on Sanford Police to arrest George Zimmerman saying justice hadn't been served.
On March 13th, police wrapped up their investigation. They say no arrest has been made because they have no evidence to contradict Zimmerman's self-defense story. Two days later, witness Mary Cutcher speaks.
MARY CUTCHER, WITNESS: We believe in our hearts a hundred percent it was not self-defense.
KAYE: March 16th, the next day, police release 911 tapes from the night of Trayvon Martin's death. Here's one exchange.
GEORGE ZIMMERMAN, NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH MAN VOLUNTEER: Something's wrong with him. Yes, he's coming to check me out. He's got something in his hands. I don't know what his deal is.
UNIDENTIFIED 911 DISPATCHER: Are you following him?
ZIMMERMAN: Yes. UNIDENTIFIED 911 DISPATCHER: OK. We don't need you to do that.
ZIMMERMAN: OK.
KAYE: On March 18th several hundred people gathered in nearby Titusville, Florida, calling on the state attorney to file charges in the case. The attorney later announced that a grand jury will review the case. And the Justice Department stepped in the next day, saying they'd investigate whether there were any civil rights violations.
Then on Thursday, Sanford Police Chief Bill Lee stepped down, temporarily, saying he'd become a distraction to the investigation. He had become the lightning rod for critics of his department's handling of the case.
And take a look at this map. This is where we've seen rallies for Trayvon Martin and his family.
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KAYE: Next hour we'll take you live to Sanford, Florida, for the very latest on events planned for Trayvon Martin today.
The story of Trayvon Martin is also resonating on the campaign trail. Here's what President Obama and some of the men who hope to replace him in the White House had to say.
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BARACK OBAMA, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: You know, if I had a son he'd look like Trayvon. And, you know, I think they are right to expect that all of us as Americans are going to take this with the seriousness it deserves and that we're going to get to the bottom of exactly what happened.
MITT ROMNEY (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: The shooting of Trayvon is a terrible tragedy, unnecessary, uncalled for, and inexplicable at this point. What we've heard from the media reports suggest that it's entirely appropriate for the district attorney and -- to be looking into this and to have called a grand jury and to find out what the facts are. We hope that justice is done in this case.
NEWT GINGRICH (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Every young American is endowed by their creator with certain alienable rights including life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. We have to, as a movement, a conservative movement, as a party, the Republican Party, has to be concerned about the quality of life and the sanctity of life of every American of every background.
RICK SANTORUM (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: A horrible case. It's chilling to hear what happened and of course, you know, the fact that law enforcement didn't immediately go in and prosecute this case is another chilling example of horrible decisions made by people in this process.
(END VIDEO CLIP) KAYE: Keep it right here on CNN where my colleague Don Lemon will have special coverage of the killing of Trayvon Martin and the controversy that surrounds his death. That begins tonight at 7:00 p.m. Eastern time.
Polls are open right now in Louisiana. Voters making their choice in the Republican presidential primary. And Rick Santorum is favored to win. An American Research Group survey shows Santorum with a double- digit lead over Mitt Romney and Newt Gingrich but with a delegate gap that keeps getting wider in Romney's favor some say Santorum can't just win. He has to win big.
The U.S. army sergeant charged with killing Afghan civilians could be sentenced to death. Staff Sergeant Robert Bales now faces 17 counts of murder. A NATO spokesman says that even though 16 people were initially thought to have died in the attack, investigators feel they have enough evidence to charge Bales with an additional death.
Officials say Bales walked of his Kandahar base and into a nearby village where he opened fire. At a minimum he could be sentenced to life in prison with the possibility of parole.
"Stand Your Ground." The controversial law could play a big part in the Trayvon Martin case. Coming up I'll talk with one of the Florida lawmakers who wrote the law. What is he saying now?
Stay with CNN SATURDAY MORNING where news doesn't take the weekend off.
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KAYE: Our "Main Bar Story" today is the controversial death of Trayvon Martin and that the possibility that his killer may never face arrest or conviction. It's because of a Florida law called "Stand Your Ground." The law gives people the right to use deadly force to protect themselves if they feel threatened. Twenty-one states have some form of this law in place.
There's another case in Florida that I've been following. A about a 71-year-old retired bus driver accused of killing a man in broad daylight. His defense? "Stand Your Ground." Here's more.
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KAYE (voice-over): When David James, an Iraq war veteran, escaped combat in the Middle East unscathed, his wife Kanina breathed a sigh of relief.
JAMES: I would worry about him. But I thought he would be safe here.
KAYE: She was wrong. And now wants to know why Trevor Dooley, a 71- year-old retired bus driver, shot her husband in broad daylight right in front of their 8-year-old daughter. Dooley says it was self- defense. Kanina James calls it murder.
JAMES: What person brings a gun to a park when there's children? I mean, he killed my husband. He could have just talked to him.
KAYE: Whether or not Trevor Dooley fired in self-defense is at the heart of this case. Also central to the story is Dooley's defense, Florida's "Stand Your Ground" law, which allows a person to stand their ground and use deadly force if they fear someone could seriously harm them.
(On camera): Here's what witnesses say happened on that September Sunday in 2010. Forty-one-year-old David James was playing basketball with his daughter here when witnesses say Dooley who lived right across the street started yelling at a teenager who was skateboarding to get off the court. That's when witnesses say James intervened.
(Voice-over): James yelled back to Dooley asking him to show where any signs said no skateboarding. Dooley then crossed the street to the park to confront James. A tennis player at the park, Michael Witt, testified things turned ugly when Dooley reached for his waistband. Witt says James then lunged at Dooley. The two men struggled on the ground before James was shot once through the heart. On the 911 call, Witt is heard trying to help.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Sir, can you hear me? Sir, can you hear me? Sir, can you hear me? He's shot in the chest, ma'am.
UNIDENTIFIED 911 DISPATCHER: And he's not breathing?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He's not breathing.
UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: Mr. Dooley, what do you want to say about what happened?
TREVOR DOOLEY, SHOOTING SUSPECT: No comment.
KAYE: Dooley tells a different story that contradicts the witnesses. He says when he took the gun out of his right front pocket James saw it and knocked him to the ground. At a hearing to get the charges dismissed, Dooley testified, quote, "He was choking me to death."
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You agree you do not want to go to prison for killing David James, correct?
DOOLEY: I don't think I should.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes or no?
DOOLEY: No.
KAYE (on camera): Dooley's lawyer told us his client turned to walk away towards home and that James was the aggressor. He said Dooley did pull a gun but didn't use it until he felt his life was threatened. He says the charges against his client should be dropped given the "Stand Your Ground" law.
(Voice-over): Kanina James says her husband of 13 years had never been aggressive. That he was a gentle family man. She believes he was trying to protect himself and their daughter Danielle after he saw Dooley pull a gun.
JAMES: He loved Danielle so much. That breaks my heart that Trevor Dooley took my daughter's best friend away from her. She'll never have her daddy.
KAYE: Danielle's testimony about how and why the situation turned violent is key in a case that hinges on self-defense. Danielle now 10 recalled how her father asked Dooley where the signs were that said no skateboarding on the court.
DANIELLE JAMES, FATHER KILLED: My dad got on top of him so he could keep him down so he could get the answer.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Where were your dad's hands?
D. JAMES: On his arms.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: On the man's arms?
D. JAMES: Yes.
KAYE: The little girl then recalled her father's last moments.
D. JAMES: I think the guy pulled out the gun then.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Did you hear anything?
D. JAMES: Yes.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: What did you hear?
D. JAMES: Like when it shot.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You heard a gunshot?
D. JAMES: Yes.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Did your dad say anything then?
D. JAMES: Yes.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: What did he say?
D. JAMES: Call the ambulance. I've been shot.
KAYE: When Kanina James got there, her husband was already dead. And her daughter was crying, asking, why isn't anyone helping my daddy?
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KAYE: So now for our second sidebar of the morning, a closer look at "Stand Your Ground." Florida's current governor is now calling for a review of the law after the shooting of Trayvon Martin. There's also been some confusion about how "Stand Your Ground" may be used as a defense in this case.
Joining me now is Florida State Representative Dennis Baxley. He co- authored Florida's "Stand Your Ground" law.
Good morning, Representative Baxley. Let me ask you this.
DENNIS BAXLEY (R), FLORIDA STATE HOUSE: Good morning.
KAYE: Do you agree that this law needs to be reworked?
BAXLEY: No, I don't. I think it's always appropriate to review. I mean, nothing is ever finished in the legislature and it is always appropriate to look at things, but I think we were redeemed last night. I've been saying from day one in the case in Sanford that this doesn't apply. There's nothing in this statute that provides you the authority to pursue and to confront people on the street.
And in that sense it simply does not apply. This statute, this statute is simply about authorizing and empowering an individual who's under a violent attack to defend themselves and their family from harm. And so this was a misapplication. And last night it was verified. On this interview with Zimmerman's attorney he said he is not using "Stand Your Ground."
KAYE: Right.
BAXLEY: He will try to build a self-defense argument but this law does not apply to that. This law is all about standing with law- abiding citizens who are doing nothing, who are under violent attack. And I think if anything good can come out of this terrible situation in Stanford, is it could be a clarification. I think the problem has been the application of this law.
KAYE: Let --
BAXLEY: There always has to be an investigation. There always has to be an examination. A lot of people are going to try to claim that defense. But the fact it's all about standing -- law-abiding citizens who are under violent attack.
KAYE: Let me get your reaction to former Florida governor, Jeb Bush, he is the one who signed the law into place, as you know back in 2005. But he actually says the law also may not be used and maybe not be appropriate for this case. Listen to what he said.
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JEB BUSH, FORMER FLORIDA GOVERNOR: It appears to me that this law does not apply to this particular circumstance. "Stand Your Ground" means stand your ground. It doesn't mean chase after somebody who's turned their back.
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KAYE: So it sounds like you certainly agree with that. It's not about pursuing someone?
BUSH: That is correct. And I think there are some misconceptions maybe on the part of law enforcement of when this law applies. But the general population has been protected and The general population has been protected and many lives saved because people are empowered. What we've seen is if you empower people to stop violent acts from occurring they can and they will and they have. And for that --
KAYE: So what do you think, what do you think if anything George Zimmerman should be charged with if he can't use this as a defense?
BAXLEY: Well, I think the facts of the case. In fact, we have a template here. We don't need to speculate anymore. I think there was appropriate outrage because nothing was being done. And in fact this outrage has yielded a template. We need to let this grand jury work, fully investigate. We have a fresh investigator on this, a prosecutor to review all the facts.
After the work of that is done we now have a task force to see if anything legislatively needs to be done. It may have to be a different form of legislation come out of this task force. It may be we need some more prescriptive guidelines of what crime watch is about. But, clearly, every case has to be investigated and every case does not apply to this statute.
KAYE: Representative Dennis Baxley, thank you very much for your time this morning.
BAXLEY: Thank you.
KAYE: All right. So imagine being close to this. Tornadoes tear through parts of the country again. Find out if we're in the clear for the weekend.
Take a look at where you live. That's straight ahead.
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KAYE: A lot of us use social media to keep up with our friends. Right? Some new apps, though, or taking things, let's say, a little further. They want to introduce you to potential new friends. But one way that they do it may feel a little bit like cyber stalking.
Mario Armstrong HLN's digital lifestyle expert joins me from Washington. Good morning, Mario.
MARIO ARMSTRONG, HLN DIGITAL LIFESTYLE EXPERT: Good morning, Randi. How are you?
KAYE: All right. I'm well, thank you. So you were at the southwest- southwest conference. People discover apps were a really big there.
ARMSTRONG: Yes.
KAYE: And one that is apparently getting a lot of attention is this one called the highlight. So tell me about that one.
ARMSTRONG: Yes. And they are getting a lot of attention. This one in particular is a "People Discovery" app, Randi. What you -- what that means is you use you download this free app and then the phone uses your GPS to know your location. And then what it can do is since you're signing in through Facebook, it can alert you when other people that also have the app are near you. So it helps you with this thing called people discovery, helping you search and find others that are around you.
Maybe you know them, maybe you don't know them. And I think this is something that a lot of people are looking at social settings that can be used for icebreakers, to meet new people.
Some people think this is very creepy, though.
KAYE: Yes.
ARMSTRONG: Because they just meet new people.
KAYE: And that's what I was going to say. I mean it really does sound a little creepy. I mean it goes through your Facebook page, discovers your likes and things, and tries to match you up with people where you are. I mean can you shut it off? I mean if you don't want to be bothered?
Yes, yes. There is a pause button on there. But that's something that's interesting. Once you open up the app and start to use it, it runs in the background continuously. So unless you remember to shut it down, it's running in the background. But yes, you do have the functionality to pause it.
One of the other things that really bothered me, and I think we may have been the first to really bring it to light during (INAUDIBLE) was this company did not have a privacy policy on their Web site. Now, they had privacy settings within the app, very basic, but they had them. But no privacy policy on the Web site explaining exactly what you're getting and what you're using.
I'm happy to announce now over past couple days they have put a privacy policy on their Web site.
KAYE: Yes. That is a good thing. So what about -- there have to be other apps you know, of this type out there. I mean anything that you like better?
ARMSTRONG: Yes, I like one called "Banjo" better for two reasons. Number one, you and I, Randi, don't both have to be on banjo in order for us to get some benefit out of it. I like that. Number two, the other thing I really enjoy about banjo is I can zoom in on a particular area and then I can type in a key word to see the conversations, social discourse that's actually happening in that area.
So, yes. It does alert me to friends if I want to know who's nearby and all of those people discovery things but a quick example, if I wanted to know what people in Sanford, Florida, are actually saying about the Trayvon Martin case, I can zoom in to Sanford and type in Trayvon and see what people are saying that live there, that are from there, not other people talking about it.
KAYE: Wow. That is really cool, that's a great way of getting information. Sort of fun what's going on in other communicates.
It is. Only a lighter note we did it for D.C. my wife is like cherry blossoms, D.C., I was like, D.C., Cherry Blossoms and we knew exactly by looking through the app. Where did t go? And get the Cherry Blossom experience.
KAYE: And how was it, lovely?
ARMSTRONG: Awesome. You got to get there.
KAYE: Good. I'm so glad.
All right, Mario, nice to see you. Pretty cool stuff.
ARMSTRONG: Nice to see you as well.
KAYE: Thank you.
ARMSTRONG: Thank you.
KAYE: Join us every Saturday at this time as our digital lifestyle experts Mario Armstrong gives us the scoop on the latest technology.
Parts of the Midwest and the south are recovering after dangerous storms tore through half a dozen states Friday. Take a look at this video with me. A tornado touching down in Elkville, Illinois. Another twister flung a mobile home across the street killing a woman inside. Several people were hurt and a number of homes now damaged.
Reynolds joins me now.
Any better weather, I hope, Reynolds, in store for the weekend?
REYNOLDS WOLF, AMS METEOROLOGIST: Well, for the Midwest yes, they're going to basically in the wake of damn. They've got to clean up day to day. But now we're seeing the brunt of that rough weather begin to move towards the Piedmont region of the Carolinas. In fact, plain as day you can see it on radar.
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KAYE: That is a beautiful shot, Reynolds. Thank you for bringing us that.
WOLF: You bet.
KAYE: We'll check back with you in just a moment.
WOLF: All right. Talk to you then.
KAYE: All right. New information this morning in the search for a Maine toddler missing since December. Details coming up when we check top stories right after the break. Keep it here.
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KAYE: It is 27 minutes past the hour. There is a lovely look of downtown Atlanta for you this morning.
Welcome back, everyone. I'm Randi Kaye. Thanks for starting your day with us.
Checking "Top Stories" now the attorney for the man accused of fatally shooting unarmed teenager Trayvon Martin tells CNN that Florida's controversial "stand your ground" law doesn't apply to the case. He says it's a matter of self-defense.
Former Florida governor Jeb Bush also says the law should not apply because it, quote, "doesn't mean chase after somebody who's turned their backs. Bush signed the stand your ground law back in 2005.
Voters in Louisiana are making their choice in the Republican presidential race today. Polls are open in the primary there. Rick Santorum is looking to make up ground after last week's losses in Illinois and Puerto Rico. Recent polls showed Santorum with a double- digit lead over Mitt Romney and Newt Gingrich.
At least 100 volunteers are combing through parts of Waterville, Maine, right now. They're renewing the search for 20-month-old Ayla Reynolds. She's been missing since December 17th when her father told police he found her bed empty.
New video just in to CNN shows the chaotic scene inside the apartment where a French gunman made his final stand. Mohammed Merah who was shot dead by police was wanted for the killings of seven people including three children. His brother is currently being questioned by authorities.
Pope Benedict is making history this weekend as he begins a six-day trip that will take him to Mexico for the first time. The Vatican calls the event a, quote, "journey of hope." And as Rafael Romo explains, the Mexican government is sparing no expense to make the Pope right at home.
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RAFAEL ROMO, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Near a colonial city, admired for its rich, historic architecture, it is a project of celestial proportions. Construction workers have labored for months. They're mission to build an altar worthy of a Pope and an outdoor venue that can accommodate 700,000 people.
JORGE RAUL VILLEGAS, LEON ARCHITECTURE SPOKESMAN (Through Translator: we have already received people from states throughout Mexico and also from other countries as well as North and South America.
We've had requests from people with an open spirit and anxious to meet Pope Benedict.
(Voice-over) This is bicentennial park in Guanajuato State, the heartland of Mexican Catholicism. Pope Benedict XVI will celebrate mass here next Sunday on his first visit to Mexico. The government has spent millions to get ready. ROGELIO MARTINEZ CABALLERO, BICENTENNIAL PARK DIRECTOR (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): We are coordinating at the three levels of government and security with the presidential guard.
ROMO: Even the drug cartels have promised to cooperate, officials say, hanging banners pledging to keep the peace for the pontiff's stay.
(on camera): The Pope's visit will be a blessing for Mexico in more ways than one. The Mexican National Confederation of Tourism estimates that 540,000 people will travel to Guanajuato and spend roughly $80 million in meals, transportation, shopping and lodging.
(voice-over): Jesus Guerrero-Santos, a renowned Mexican artist has been working for months to create the symbolic artwork that will be used in the mass to celebrate the occasion.
"Creating an altar," he says, "out of nickel, silver and ceramics."
ROMO: Tourism officials hope the Papal visit will put Guanajuato on the map. Billboards herald the special celebration along highways throughout central Mexico. And mariachi bands have been hired to serenade the pontiff at his arrival.
Rafael Romo, CNN, Atlanta.
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KAYE The coroner says heart disease contributed to the death of Whitney Houston. Many people don't realize heart disease, not breast cancer is actually the number one killer of women around the world. Dr. Sujatha Reddy will have tips for preventing this killer in just four minutes.
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KAYE: The Los Angeles Coroner says heart disease and cocaine use contributed to Whitney Houston's death. She drowned in a bath tub. Many people aren't aware that heart disease is the number one killer of women around the world.
Dr. Sujatha Reddy joins me now from Chicago to talk much more about this disease. Good morning, Doctor. Let's talk about this.
DR. SUJATHA REDDY, PREMIERE CARE FOR WOMEN: Good morning Randi.
KAYE: It is such an important topic certainly for everyone but especially for women. Whitney Houston, she certainly didn't look like the typical heart disease patient. Can you tell us a little bit about what the coroner found to -- to come to that decision?
REDDY: You're exactly right. She was a normal weight, healthy- looking woman so you wouldn't think she could have heart disease. But as you mentioned the coroner found that it was a cardiac or heart event that was complicated by cocaine use. So the cocaine contributed to existing heart disease. KAYE: So the drugs that were found in her system especially the cocaine, that obviously can make something worse. Is there anything else that can contribute to heart disease?
REDDY: Yes, there are lots of factors to heart disease, but in this case, you know, the narrowing of her coronary arteries, the atherosclerosis as people heard that term this week probably was survivable but when you add cocaine to it, it can cause high blood pressure, which makes your heart work harder. And it can also narrow already narrow arteries and your heart is not going to get enough blood and you can have a heart attack or an irregular heartbeat.
So there is no question that cocaine contributed to what was probably survivable but pre-existing heart disease.
KAYE: Yes and we certainly don't know if Whitney Houston had any symptoms or had any awareness that she might have had heart disease. But what symptoms should -- should other women look out for?
REDDY: Yes and this is important. Because symptoms in women are actually very different than they are in men. Women aren't going to have this crushing chest pain that we often hear about. Women may have more a discomfort in shoulders or neck or even in the upper abdomen or in their upper back. They can also feel some nausea, some vomiting, possibly be a little bit dizzy but they may not have that classic, crushing chest pain. So it can be very subtle.
KAYE: You know, we hear this and it's described as the number one killer of women but there has to be something that we can do to prevent heart disease.
REDDY: You're exactly right. You know you can't fight your genetics but you sure can control your environment because family history is a big risk factor. But a lot of things we can control. One thing is maintain a healthy weight, like Whitney did. If you're at a healthy weight that's going to decrease your risk exercise 30 to 60 minutes a day, that's going to help decrease your risk. Have a healthy diet, one low in saturated fat. Definitely don't smoke. Limit alcohol.
And you know, you may be a candidate for aspirin therapy. It's good to contact your health care provider to find out and we heard a lot about aspirin this week that it might even help prevent certain kinds of cancers. So an aspirin a day may help prevent heart disease in this case as well.
KAYE: All right, aspirin getting a lot of attention this week for sure. Dr. Reddy, thank you very much. Enjoy your day in Chicago there.
REDDY: Thank you, Randi. Take care.
KAYE: The man accused in the Trayvon Martin shooting now has a lawyer. But does he have a plan?
Coming up I'll speak with criminal defense attorney Holly Hughes about the potential strategy for George Zimmerman's team. But first, our "Travel Insider". Reynolds traveled about an hour north of Atlanta to check out one of the oldest gold mines in the country.
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REYNOLDS WOLF, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Let's go.
First stop: Dahlonega, Georgia, the Consolidated Gold Mine. At first impression you see this beautiful building here in the parking lot. But it's what's below ground that really captures the imagination.
You know this wasn't dug just yesterday. It's been around since 1898. And this is D. Harbert the general manager of the mine. D, how long have people been digging for gold in this part of world?
DATHAN "D" HARBERT, MANAGER, CONSOLIDATED GOLD MINE: Well, gold was first discovered in 1828 and in just one year over 15,000 people showed up all looking for gold and it became the first major U.S. gold rush.
WOLF: Now what type of mining is this?
HARBERT: This one here is hard rock gold mining.
WOLF: But there are other types, too?
HARBERT: Oh absolutely. We can grab a gold pan and head out to the rivers and streams.
WOLF: All right, D, show me how this is done.
HARBERT: Fill it up with water. And the heavy gold is falling to the bottom. If you do your job right you should find it right there.
WOLF: Gold. Check it out. And I've got sand.
HARBERT: You better keep your day job.
WOLF: Unbelievable. D, thanks for your time.
HARBERT: Thanks for coming. Come back to Dahlonega.
WOLF: All right. We got to hit the road.
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KAYE: Time now for another side bar in our "Top Story" of the day, the death of teenager Trayvon Martin. The man at the center of the shooting is George Zimmerman. He's been staying far from the public spotlight almost since that incident. Some neighbors describe him as just another guy but a look into his past reveals a complex individual.
Here is our John Zarrella.
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JOHN ZARRELLA, CNN CORRESPONDENT: George Michael Zimmerman, 28 years old, until a month ago he was, his neighbor Frank Taaffe says, just a guy who cared.
FRANK TAAFFE, NEIGHBOR: George was a caring, passionate -- he had a passion for the safety of our neighborhood. And he demonstrated to the rest of us that one person could make a difference. And he was an average guy just like me.
ZARRELLA: We know him only from what people say of him, from a couple of pictures there are of him and from his voice on the 911 calls he made February 26th, the night he shot and killed Trayvon Martin.
GEORGE ZIMMERMAN, NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH CAPTAIN: This guy looks like he's up to no good or he's on drugs or something. It's raining and he is just walking around looking about.
ZARRELLA: Zimmerman says the shooting was self-defense. He has not been charged with a crime.
What we've been able to piece together about George Zimmerman's life you might say is a contradiction.
In 2005 he's arrested for resisting a police officer without violence after an incident at a local bar. He pleads not guilty but later he enters a six-month pre-trial diversion program as part of a plea deal. As this document shows, it's extended two months because, quote, "my program participation has not been satisfactory".
Later that year, Zimmerman and his ex-fiance both file for protection against domestic violence after each alleged there was pushing and hitting.
None of this sounds like the boy George and Kay Hall knew. Zimmerman was an altar boy in the Catholic Church. He didn't move to Florida until after he graduated in high school here in Manassas, Virginia in this house across the street from Hall.
KAY HALL, FORMER NEIGHBOR: They were a tight-knit family, very good with their children were very well behaved. They weren't -- they didn't run around loose or anything. They were faithful. They were active in the Catholic Church.
ZARRELLA: And this is the George Zimmerman, the just the guy side, the man trying to make something of his life. The side George Hall knew.
Zimmerman was a part-time student at Seminole State College, studying general education, but today the college withdrew him for safety reasons.
He's worked various odd jobs, security for a home party company and for a time around 2008 he worked at Car Max. (on camera): That same year Zimmerman applied for and was accepted into a citizens outreach program run by the sheriff's department, which introduces participants to law enforcement procedures. Before he is accepted Zimmerman has to explain his 2005 arrest.
(voice-over): He writes in part, quote, "I hold law enforcement officers in the highest regard as I hope to one day become one," end quote. In fact, a couple years ago, he called his old neighbor George Hall asking for a letter of recommendation for a law enforcement application.
GEORGE HALL, FORMER NEIGHBOR OF GEORGE ZIMMERMAN: A very positive one. I mean I have nothing but the strongest positive feelings for the whole family, including the boys.
ZARRELLA: We don't know what happened to the application, but when he volunteered for and became the neighborhood watch captain, a couple of years ago, it may have been George Zimmerman's way of walking a beat.
John Zarrella, CNN, Sanford, Florida.
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KAYE: The Trayvon Martin shooting has put new attention on the "Stand Your Ground" law that we spoke about earlier this hour. It is the law in 21 states and its impact on Florida is evident. According to the state's Department of Law Enforcement, Florida averaged 12 justifiable homicides a year in the five years before the law's approval. In the six years since, that average has nearly tripled to 33.
Joining me now is criminal defense attorney and former prosecutor Holly Hughes to talk more about this. Good morning to you.
HOLLY HUGHES, CRIMINAL DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Good morning.
KAYE: All right. So earlier in the show we played some sound, a sound bite from former Florida governor Jeb Bush saying that the "Stand Your Ground" law is not applicable in this case and Zimmerman's attorney is already talking about self-defense. Does that sound like that's the track that they're going to go?
HUGHES: Well, they don't have any other choice because we know for a fact that George Zimmerman is the one who shot Trayvon Martin. The problem that I see happening here is the police are deciding what the facts are of a court case, which should be a court case. This law was enacted so a jury can decide, is this your defense at trial? Did you in fact commit this crime but were justified doing so?
So what is happening here is we're having a breakdown. It's not the law necessarily that's terrible because I agree with ex-Governor Bush. It doesn't apply here. We need to look at who was the initial aggressor.
KAYE: You're right. In a way it sounds like they're figuring it out on the street instead of in the courtroom.
HUGHES: Yes. Exactly, they're taking it out of the hands of the jury. That's what the jury system is for.
KAYE: Zimmerman's attorney also said that his client has no history of racism, that he's actually mentored two African-American teenagers. How much do you think his history in the black community might play into this?
HUGHES: Well, I think it's going to play a huge role, Randi, because what we see is we see him following a young man who has done absolutely nothing. Now, he is saying while he is on the 911 tape, this expletive -- he uses a curse word -- "always get away" and "I'm going to follow him" and "he just looks suspicious". And we know from the facts that this young man just had on a hoodie, right, that's become a big deal.
KAYE: Right.
HUGHES: And was carrying a bag of Skittles. So why did he target this young man? We need to ask ourselves had this been a white young man in the same circumstances, dressed the same way would he have reacted the same way. So absolutely, people are going to look at his history. They're going to see if there was a problem. Did he target -- it's what we call racial profiling when the police do it, Randi, quite frankly.
KAYE: Right. Now, Zimmerman has said he was attacked when he went back to meet the officer at his truck but yes. That's what we're trying to figure out.
HUGHES: Yes.
KAYE: There -- you mentioned the 911 call. There is some question about whether or not Zimmerman used a racial slur. We had it -- we had an expert -- an audio expert try and analyze it. It is very hard to hear. If he indeed did -- if he indeed did and we figured that out, does this elevate it then to a federal hate crime?
HUGHES: It absolutely could, yes. Because, again, when you're talking about a hate crime the difference between a hate crime and every other crime on the books is typically it's what did the defendant do. Ok? He shot somebody. That's murder. But when you're talking about a hate crime you're asking the jury to get into the head of the defendant and say, but why did he do this?
Typically prosecutors never have to prove motive. When you're talking about a hate crime you have to prove motive.
KAYE: So that's a pretty critical piece of tape --
HUGHES: It's a very critical --
KAYE: -- to find out what's on there.
HUGHES: Yes. Absolutely. And you know, I've heard it as well and I can't make out what's being said. I don't know if there is or there isn't. But everything that he did and didn't do, let's look at this. After he's told "we don't need you to follow him" by the police, he continues. So he is the aggressor in this situation.
Even if Trayvon, even if and I'm not saying it happened, did swing out, Trayvon was defending himself. Zimmerman has a gun, Trayvon has a bag of skittles -- that's not equal force and at no time interestingly enough from any of 911 callers do we hear anybody say the neighborhood watch guy is following. Zimmerman never identifies himself as "I'm neighborhood watch, man. Can I just talk to you for a minute?"
KAYE: Right. Right.
HUGHES: Why not? It sounds to me like you're spoiling for a fight. You're chasing a young kid down. And eventually that child ends up dead on the sidewalk. There is a problem with that, Randi.
KAYE: We're going to continue to follow it, of course, all throughout the weekend. In fact, we have a special right here, Holly --
HUGHES: Yes.
KAYE: -- coming up tonight where my colleague Don Lemon will have special coverage on the killing of Trayvon Martin and the controversy that surrounds his death. That begins tonight at 7:00 p.m. Eastern time.
Voters in Louisiana making their choice in the Republican presidential race today; we'll have a live report in just around 15 minutes from now.
But first, Steve Jobs built his first computer in his garage. It's where a lot of inventors get their start. But a new company is turning the creative process into a communal hot spot.
Joe Carter has the story in this "Start Small, Think Big".
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ANDREW FILO, INVENTOR: We can just go up and we can move.
JOE CARTER, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Inventor Andrew Filo is setting his goals high.
FILO: I've always dreamed about jet packs. I think everybody's always dreamed about jet packs.
CARTER: He is getting close to making his jet pack dream a reality but says he couldn't have gotten this far on his own.
Andrew got some heavyweight help. He became a member of TechShop.
JIM NEWTON, TECHSHOP: I guess you could call TechShop kind of a health club for the mind.
CARTER: It's an idea of life-long inventor Jim Newton came up with in order to create his projects and help other aspiring inventors; filled with industrial machinery, 3D printers and workshops. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Let's head on back to the work shop.
CARTER: It's a place that for a monthly fee gives every day people access to cutting edge equipment.
NEWTON: Everybody has an idea in their heads of something they want to make. Everybody does. Our mission at TechShop is to make everybody on the planet into a maker.
CARTER: No experience is required. Members can pay extra for training classes on professional machines. And with five shops already opened, and more on the way, it's becoming fertile ground for new ideas.
FILO: It's a public and social space. You meet people that have ideas and concepts that you hadn't considered before.
CARTER: Even if you're not building a jet pack, the sky can be the limit.
Joe Carter, HLN.
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KAYE: Welcome back, everyone.
It's time for a little R & R. Not "rest and relaxation" but a little Reynolds & Randi time.
WOLF: I love this story.
KAYE: Me too. This is the time when we look at our favorite stories of the day or even of the week or weekend and this one really caught our eye.
This is the porn star.
WOLF: Yes.
KAYE: Story out of Minnesota. This is really something. All right. It's sort of a bizarre twist on an old rite of passage; this 18-year- old high school student Mike Stone. He was looking for a special lady, we'll say, to bring to the prom. Well, he sent hundreds of tweets and they went to porn stars and even celebrities like Snooki and he got pretty lucky didn't he, Reynolds?
WOLF: He certainly did. 19-year-old adult entertainer Megan Piper, she agreed to be his date.
KAYE: There she is.
WOLF: The only thing she didn't have is she didn't have transportation to actually get to the date itself. And what happened? What was the final outcome there? KAYE: Well, she had tweeted that if you can get me there, then yes. She lives in L.A. apparently. So in fact, though, she didn't make it to her own prom, that's why. But according to KSEP in Minnesota, the Tartan High School officials said no way.
WOLF: Shocker.
KAYE: The high school said no --
WOLF: Yes.
KAYE: Not going to happen. Right?
WOLF: Who didn't see that coming?
You know, I have nothing against Mike. But Mike Stone, you're 18 years old. It's time for a little bit of intervention. I have to give this to you. Three things you have to know. I know you're 18. You're about to leave home but three things you need to know especially when it comes to your parents who are mad at you.
First and foremost tell your parents you love them every single day. Number two is when you're given the keys to the car, always return the car with a full tank of gas. Number three, don't invite a porn star to your prom. Those three things and life is going to be easier for you.
KAYE: Can you believe she actually said yes?
WOLF: You know, I have to respect her for that. That is a good sport.
KAYE: That is a good sport.
WOLF: But not exactly the smartest move for Mike. Mike I love you though. You're 18. Come on.
KAYE: Oh, boy. I hope Mike is watching this morning. If you are, send me a tweet @RandiKayeCNN. Let us know what you think about Reynolds' advice as well.
That was fun.
WOLF: Unreal.
KAYE: All right. On a much more serious note, to politics now 20 delegates at stake today in the Louisiana primary; Mitt Romney's already got a win this week. Our Paul Steinhauser standing by live to tell us why one win may be all he gets.
You're watching CNN SATURDAY MORNING where news doesn't take the weekend off.
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