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Sandusky Defense Prepares for Sentencing; Supreme Court Weighs on Obamacare; School Bus Monitored Bullied

Aired June 23, 2012 - 10:00   ET

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RANDI KAYE, CNN ANCHOR (voice-over): From CNN World Headquarters in Atlanta, this is CNN SATURDAY MORNING.

KAYE: The verdict is in. Jerry Sandusky guilty of sexually abusing 10 boys.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Jerry rose; I saw some tears in his eyes.

KAYE: This morning reaction to the verdict and new details about the jurors who convicted this one-time hometown hero.

Also ahead this morning, the big wait and for some, the big worry. What will the Supreme Court discuss by Obamacare? How will it affect you? We're looking at all the angles ahead of next week's pivotal ruling.

And the ruthless taunting she faced by four school kids touched the nation. Now the dough is rolling in for this bullied bus monitor. I traveled to her home to get her account of how it all went down.

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KAYE: Good morning, everyone. I'm Randi Kaye. It is 10:00 on the East Coast, 7:00 on the West.

We start with Jerry Sandusky and the guilty verdict reached by a jury late last night. They found him guilty on 45 of 48 counts all related to instances of sexual abuse of 10 young boys.

Sandusky was immediately taken into custody handcuffed and taken away. Joining me now is Karl Rominger, one of Jerry Sandusky's defense attorneys.

Thank you, Karl, for joining us this morning.

First of all, what is the latest on his condition this morning? Is he indeed on suicide watch?

KARL ROMINGER, SANDUSKY DEFENSE ATTORNEY: He is in what they call one- on-one administrative custody, which I think most people would call suicide watch. It was done with the purpose of placing him in that kind of restrictive environment, not for any particular reason but as a prophylactic or safety measure by the court and the warden.

So I think it's important that people understand there's no reason to believe he needs to be on suicide watch, but it was done in an abundance of caution, given the nature of the charges.

KAYE: We've been getting a lot of reaction, obviously, overnight and into this morning. But I'm curious, did Jerry Sandusky make any comment after that verdict was read? Has he said anything to his defense team since?

ROMINGER: Well, you know, the short answer is we didn't have much time with him. We had to excuse him from the courtroom. As you know, he walked out of the courtroom not in handcuffs. He was eventually put in cuffs to be transported in the car to the prison, but out of sign of respect, the court allowed him to walk out on his own volition.

That said, when I looked at him during the verdict, I could see tears running down his eyes, so to the extent that anybody said he was emotionless, that's simply not true.

KAYE: Joe Amendola, also a member of the defense team, said he wasn't surprised by the verdict. Is that the way the entire defense team felt before those verdicts were read?

ROMINGER: Well, the short answer is, Joe knew and I knew that we had a huge uphill battle, and every not guilty that we got, we eked out with very little time to prepare, with no continuances. You can get five continuances for a speeding ticket, but you can't get one continuance for Jerry Sandusky.

We were given thousands of pages days before trial started, so we simply were behind the 8 ball from the beginning. We think with more time we could have developed a better defense. But that said, it was like climbing Mt. Everest, to quote the lead counsel Amendola.

KAYE: Are you at all rethinking your decision to put Jerry Sandusky's wife, Dottie, on the stand?

ROMINGER: No, I don't think so at all. I think Dottie was very helpful in many respects. Remember, that jury was out over 20-some hours, and people say whether it was 48 counts or they had a lot of deliberation to do, the short answer is they had a lot of deliberation to do, but the charges kind of all roll into one.

So, for instance, for any one accuser, most of the charges, if you're guilty on one, you're guilty of the following four. So with that in mind, that was an awful lot of time for what most people thought was a pretty simple case. And I think Dottie was one of the keys to raising some doubt.

KAYE: What was behind the decision to keep Jerry Sandusky off the stand? ROMINGER: Well, that's complex. There was a lot of issues going on. We were able to show that the police went off of recording, coached a witness what they thought was secretly, but didn't realize that they forgot to turn the tape recorder off.

They back into the interview without knowing that we would see what specifics they gave that witness to say, how they encouraged them to be graphic about the specifics. We thought that was powerful and led against taking him on -- putting him on the stand.

We also felt, quite frankly, that the Matt Sandusky issue was a problem. And once the government chose not to call Matt in their case in chief, we then felt they might be able to call him in rebuttal if Jerry took the stand, so all those things combined did it, had Amendola called Matt in their case in chief, as they would have been entitled to and if they thought he was credible, I think they would have. Then Jerry might have taken the stand, I don't know.

KAYE: Had he ever considered any type of plea deal? I mean, I know he's always said that he was innocent, but looking back now --

ROMINGER: No, quite frankly, any plea deals that we were offered, I don't see the sentence being any better (inaudible) get out of this, and, in fact, any plea deals we were offered included a felony for the Mike McQueary charges involving the shower incident, and we beat the serious felony in that case.

KAYE: We have heard that there could be appeals. Here's what another one of your defense team members had said.

"If you win on one of the appeal issues, everything probably falls. So all we have to do is convince an appellate court that one of the issues that we will raise is worthy of a reversal."

What is your basis of an appeal?

ROMINGER: We have critical issues of confrontation on Accuser Number Eight, which came in as a sole hearsay statement. We have several other issues. And, frankly, when the record becomes available, you are going to see that a lot of things were raised until seal.

So I've heard a lot of legal analysts say, well, these guys have no grounds for appeal, and all I would say to them is you weren't there for the secret sessions. And when those transcripts become available, review them and then tell me what you think.

KAYE: I'm curious what you think of sentencing is supposed to happen in about 90 days from now. I'm sure you've spoken with him about the possibility of spending the rest of his life in prison if it did come to this, which now it has. How is he holding up mentally? I mean, was he prepared to do this?

ROMINGER: Jerry said to me in the jury room before we came out -- not where the jury was, but we were given a jury room -- we came walking out. But before we did that, Jerry said to me, "I'm prepared to deal with whatever happens. I believe in you guys, and I know you'll keep defending me, and we'll deal with it."

And that's been his attitude through this entire thing. Every setback that we've been dealt, lack of continuance, rulings that we thought went against us, (inaudible) appellate issues, Jerry has maintained a stiff upper lip. And I think that was something that's in his personality. So while he's saddened and disheartened, he's prepared to continue to fight.

KAYE: And has it been determined where he will serve his time? And are you at all worried about his safety?

ROMINGER: Pennsylvania, he will be in the county prison until sentencing, then he'll be remanded to the Camp Hill Correctional Facility, where he'll be classified and then shipped to one of the sex offender units in the state. So we have no immediate concerns about his safety.

The professionalism of the Center County warden is exceptional. And I have no concerns whatsoever. In fact, the entire court staff here in the entire courthouse is one of the most professional I've ever worked with.

KAYE: Attorney Carl Rominger, I know it's been a very, very busy time for you, so we certainly appreciate you making the time for us this morning. Thank you.

ROMINGER: Thank you, and I want to say thank you to the attorneys who prosecuted the case. They were also gentlemen.

KAYE: All right. Thank you very much.

And we are watching some other big news stories making news this morning.

A senior Roman Catholic cleric could spend the next seven years behind bars for helping cover up child sexual abuse by priests. A Philadelphia jury yesterday found Monsignor William Lynn guilty of child endangerment.

Egypt is bracing for a historic announcement. The country's election commission says it will reveal tomorrow who won last weekend's presidential runoff. Thousands of protesters have filled Cairo's Tahrir Square to demand the military hand over power.

And wedding bells are ringing for former vice president Dick Cheney's daughter, Mary. She wed her longtime partner, Heather Poe, yesterday. Dick Cheney and his wife, Lynn, say they are, quote, "delighted" that the couple could have their relationship recognized.

And now to Colorado, where people are fleeing their homes to escape a raging wildfire this morning. Nearly 200 houses have gone up in flames since the Hyde Park fire started. The wildfire has burned about 70,000 acres near Ft. Collins. It's less than 50 percent contained.

Meteorologist Bonnie Schneider is joining us now.

So, Bonnie, what do you think? Will the weather hurt or help their efforts there?

BONNIE SCHNEIDER, AMS METEOROLOGIST: Unfortunately, Randi, I think it will hurt their efforts once again. It's just been so hot and so dry over not just Colorado, but really the entire region.

When you combine that with very strong, gusty winds that blow the flames about and bring those sparks up into the air and the embers can catch on, plenty of vegetation in advance of the movement of the fire, that's why you see such a widespread area of concern.

So we have winds today that'll gust 40 miles per hour or stronger and Ft. Collins, Randi mentioned, that's one place that will heat up in terms of temperatures, all the way to 100 degrees. Colorado is not the only state dealing with tremendous wildfire.

We also have it in Utah. A lot of people have been evacuated due to the wildfire burning in this neighborhood. Incredible pictures of widespread flames that continue to be problematic for this region.

When you look at the Hyde Park fire, though, in Colorado, you can see the tens of thousands of acres that have been burned and how much containment has been -- already been contained, but really the cost to date is over $21.6 million.

So the wildfire problem across the West from Colorado to Utah, Randi, has been a huge concern so far this season and we're still early in the season. Temperatures are likely to go up as we go further into these summer months.

KAYE: And I know, Bonnie, you've had a busy morning, not only watching the wildfires, but also the storm that is brewing in the Gulf of Mexico.

SCHNEIDER: That's right. You know, the numbers really can't get any higher than what they are now. And what I mean, Randi, is this area of disturbed weather in the Gulf of Mexico, this is now classified as 90 percent likely to become a tropical cyclone within the next 48 hours.

Hurricane hunters plan to fly into this area of thunderstorms later on today and determine if there's closed circulation. Likely they will determine that, and we will have a tropical storm. The next name is Debby.

Look at the wide variety here of where this storm could go, it's quite a divergence here. But I think by the time this day is over, we'll have a better idea of the track of where the storm is and how strong it will likely get. And if it indeed does become Debby later today, Randi.

KAYE: All right. We'll keep an eye out for Debby. Bonnie, thank you.

The Affordable Care Act could be history by this time next week. The Supreme Court is expected to make its decision in the next few days. Will it stay or will it go? Either way, it will be a big deal on the campaign trail. We'll take a look.

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KAYE: You know they're on pins and needles at the White House this morning, waiting for the decision by the Supreme Court on health care. We're talking about health care this morning, putting it in focus, with the Supreme Court on the verge of this landmark decision, they're ruling on the constitutionality of the Affordable Care Act and it's expected next week.

That's the law also known as Obamacare. We've talked with real people to hear how they'll be affected; we've heard what's going on behind the scenes, and we've also tackled some misconceptions. But now let's talk politics.

Joining me is CNN contributor Maria Cardona, and conservative commentator Amy Holmes.

Good morning to both of you.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Good morning, Randi. How are you?

KAYE: I'm well. Thank you.

So, basically, there are a few scenarios here. They can leave it alone, they can throw out part of the law or they can strike the whole thing down.

So Maria, let me start with you on this one. How devastating would that last option be for the White House if they throw the whole thing out?

MARIA CARDONA, DEMOCRATIC STRATEGIST: Well, first of all, let's start with the White House is pretty confident, I'm sure you've heard them say this, that the law is going to be upheld. They feel very strongly that it is constitutional.

Having said that, just purely on the politics of it, if it is struck down, I actually think it depends on the number. If it's 5-4, then I think a lot of Americans are going look at it as a political move by the Supreme Court.

And then obviously a political move by the Republicans who have, from the very beginning, said, and including Romney himself ironically, who is really the mother of Obamacare through Romneycare in Massachusetts, he has said that he would repeal it on day one.

And let's not forget that there are millions of Americans that are already enjoying the benefits of this, from the 26-year olds, children up to 26 years old who can be on their parents' coverage; a lot of millions of children with preexisting conditions can now get covered. There are no lifetime caps. Seniors can now save millions and millions of dollars on their prescription drugs. And so all of that, I think, if it does get struck down, is going to land right on the lap of the Republicans, especially for those Americans who are already enjoying those benefits, who will fear that those benefits will be taken away. And the Republicans have offered nothing in terms of anything to replace it with.

KAYE: All right. So let me bring in Amy here.

Amy, how would this change, if it is struck down? I mean, how would it change Mitt Romney's message and the Republican message?

AMY HOLMES, CONSERVATIVE COMMENTATOR: Well, I think you just heard what the White House spin will be if it's struck down 5-4.

There will be attacks on the Supreme Court, claiming that the decision is political, but I think we just heard a much stronger defense of Obamacare than President Obama himself is offering.

And that's one of the big problems about the Supreme Court case, is that it's going to require the campaign to respond, particularly if it's struck down. And if it's 6-3, for example, then that's even more devastating for the president.

On the Republican side, if the law is, let's say, upheld, but again, it's a narrow decision, I think what you're going to hear from the Romney camp is this is precisely why you need a Republican-controlled Senate and a Republican in the White House to be able to strike down a law that, you know, is still very unpopular.

There are polls that show that over half of Americans want Obamacare repealed. That will strengthen the GOP argument that the only way to get Obamacare repealed is to put a Republican in the office, who would then uphold any effort to do that.

KAYE: Let me just share a couple polls with our viewers here; this is a 2010 health care law poll. And as you said, Amy, 51 percent oppose, and 43 percent favor. That is where it stands. That's the opinion back of 2010 and the health care law.

And one more which I thought was really interesting as far as the mandatory health insurance, take a look here, more than 51 percent oppose, and 47 percent think it's a good idea; they favor it.

So Amy, but you also say that this could change the president's message, depending on what happens with the Supreme Court ruling.

HOLMES: Yes, I think that's a real danger for the president, whichever way this ruling goes, is that it puts Obamacare squarely back in the center of this campaign. And it's going to require the president to have to make that sale (ph) that the people want it, when in fact, just the polls that you just showed show that they don't.

The president doesn't want to talk about Obamacare any more than he wants to talk about the stimulus. He wants to try to move this conversation forward. The Supreme Court case, whether it's for or against, once again, puts Obamacare in the spotlight.

KAYE: And then quickly, Maria, what if the court leaves the law alone? How big a victory is this for the Obama administration?

CARDONA: Well, actually I think it will be more of a victory for the American people, Randi, because again, let's talk about all of those children and the millions of seniors and millions of Americans who are already seeing all these benefits and the 30 million Americans who have no coverage right now, whose only hope is to do -- is to see them be covered through the health care exchanges.

So I think it will be a victory for the American people. Obviously it will be a victory for the White House but they will focus -- again, the way that they have from the very beginning.

They're not running away from this -- is on the fact that we needed a change in the way that we see health care in this country, where, prior to Obamacare, insurance companies were in charge, insurance companies were the ones who were writing their own rules and they were dropping people if they got sick, they were not giving preventative health care services, they were not covering people and kids with preexisting conditions, and all of the -- many of those benefits are already in place.

And I think Americans are going to look to that. And if it's repealed, they're going to look to Republicans to see what they're going to do. If it is continued to be in place, I think those millions of Americans will be very happy with what President Obama has done from the very beginning, and that is to ensure that millions of Americans continue to have health care coverage.

KAYE: Maria Cardona, Amy Holmes, obviously a lot of very strong opinions on this one. Thank you both very much.

HOLMES: Thank you.

CARDONA: Thank you so much.

KAYE: A made-for-TV movie helps solve a 30-year-old cold case. Now another murder victim is tied to a notorious serial killer. How investigators connected the dots.

But first, it seems like more people than ever are using smartphones as cameras on vacation. Rob Marciano is "On the Go" with the latest and greatest apps.

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ROB MARCIANO, AMS METEOROLOGIST: For your next picturesque vacation, leave that bulky, expensive camera behind. Nowadays, all you need is a smartphone.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: More and more people are using their smartphones to take important photos while they're traveling with their friends and family because smartphones are so accessible. There are so many apps that you can take along with you that will really improve the quality of your photos.

MARCIANO: Let's say you have this incredible view and you want to soak it all in. Well, 360 Panorama actually lets you take a picture of your entire surroundings.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It will automatically stitch together all of those images and give you this great panorama view.

MARCIANO: Here's a popular app, Instagram, let's you actually take a picture -- hey, baby girl -- and you can add a variety of filters and then send them out to your friends.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: For a great way to edit your photos on the fly, you really have to try Snapseed. You can change the contrast, the brightness, the saturation, and many other features.

MARCIANO: Once you have that picture perfect, you can actually send it old school snail mail. Postcards on the Run does it with a few clicks.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: So you can actually print a scent onto the postcard so when someone receives it in their mailbox, they can scratch and sniff the postcard. So that makes it kind of interesting.

MARCIANO: Just some great ways to capture your vacation next time you're "On the Go."

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KAYE: Welcome back; checking stories cross-country now.

In Washington State, a 30-year-old cold case has been solved with the help of a made-for-TV Lifetime movie. Twenty-year-old Sandra Major went missing back in 1982. And now we know the notorious Green River serial killer, Gary Ridgway, killed her.

Police had the bones but never knew who they belonged to. And when her family saw the TV movie profiling the case, they sent DNA samples to the police.

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DET. TOM JENSEN, KING COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE: You can't investigate a case if you don't know who the victim is. It's huge for the families; I think it's huge for the investigators, who spent a lot of time over the years trying to figure out who these girls were.

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KAYE: Ridgway pleaded guilty to killing 49 women and he's serving a life sentence. Three victims have still not been identified.

Now to Minnesota, where floodwaters are receding this morning in the city of Duluth. People are finally getting a look at the true scope of the damage "The New York Times" is reporting floods caused more than $100 million in damage. It's left sidewalks buckled and roads completely washed out. The mayor says it's the worst flooding in the city's history.

And in California, a 16-year-old girl got the surprise of her life during an Oakland As game. Take a look at this. Alley Pearce, she threw the first pitch, and then her dad, an Army specialist in Afghanistan, wished her a happy birthday on video. Well, that brought her to tears. But she wasn't expecting her dad to walk out with the team.

She started crying more tears. Scott Pearce says he's been planning the surprise for six months. He wasn't supposed to be back from Afghanistan under October. How cute are they?

The 68-year-old grandma who was relentlessly bullied by a group of middle schoolers may be getting ready for retirement. Wait till you hear how much money people have donated to her cause.

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KAYE: The father of one of the middle school students taped viciously harassing a 68-year-old bus monitor says that he has received death threats. Bus monitor Karen Klein is receiving an outpouring of support. But her daughter says some people are going too far and should stop harassing the four middle school students involved. That, she says, is a form of bullying, too.

This story is shedding a whole new light on the problem, because you don't typically think of an adult as a victim.

I went to Greece, New York, this week to talk with the bus monitor who was bullied.

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KAYE (voice-over): The 10-minute video begins with bus monitor, Karin Klein, in her seat at the back of the bus, surrounded by a small group of seventh graders.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Oh, my God, you're so fat.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Dude, you're so fat. You take up like the whole entire seat.

KAYE: The students, all boys, tell Klein, their 68-year-old bus monitor for the Greece Central School District in upstate New York that she's so fat she'll probably die from diabetes.

But it's not just verbal attacks. There are physical threats, too.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You're a troll, you're a troll. You're a troll. You old troll.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: How about I bring my knife in and (inaudible) cut you? If I stabbed you in the stomach (inaudible) my knife would go through you like butter because it's all (inaudible) lard. What's your address, so I can freakin' piss all over your door?

KAREN KLEIN, BUS MONITOR: I'm not going to tell you.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I'm going (inaudible) take a crap in your mouth.

KAYE: Klein takes most of it in silence, hardly engaging the kids, except at moments like this.

KLEIN: Unless you have something nice to say, don't say anything at all.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: How about you shut the (inaudible) up?

KAYE: While everything these teenagers said was cruel, this comment was the most hurtful of all.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You don't have a family because they all killed themselves because they didn't want to be near you.

KAYE: Karin Klein's son had committed suicide 10 years ago. It's unclear if the kids knew about his death.

(on camera): Police tell us the video was recorded by one of the boys involved in the verbal attacks, who then posted it on his Facebook page. From there it was picked up and posted on YouTube. And by Thursday afternoon it had gone viral with more than 1.6 million hits, putting this quiet community of Greece, New York, on the map.

ROSE DIPASQUALE, RESIDENT: I think it's disgusting. You know, I raised eight children. If one of my children would have done that, there would be consequences to this, and I don't care what, but you have to have respect, and it starts at home.

KAYE (voice-over): Just 48 hours after the video was posted online, Klein told me these same students have misbehaved before, but never like this.

(on camera): How were you feeling when they were saying such cruel things to you?

KLEIN: I didn't catch them all. The things I did catch, I didn't know what to do. I just -- you know, it was one those things. I didn't know what to do.

KAYE (voice-over): Investigators here have interviewed all four boys involved. They may be suspended or expelled from school for a year or possibly even charged with aggravated harassment, menacing or stalking.

But for now this grandmother of eight says she doesn't want to pursue criminal charges. All she wants is an apology.

(on camera): Is there anything that these kids could say that could take away the hurt that they caused you?

KLEIN: That they won't do it to anyone else. They thought they were so smart and so smug. Make it wipe the smile off their faces too. But I cannot see pressing criminal charges.

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KAYE: This week people started raising money for Klein to take a vacation and the fund has swelled to almost 600 thousand dollars, she is now considering retiring and may donate the money to an autism or down syndrome charity. And by the way, she has received apologies from three of the four students involved.

This case is getting so much attention, so much response, I would love to know what you think about it. What would you do if you were the boys' parents, how should they be disciplined, at home and even at school. Tweet me at RandiKayeCNN, that is where you will find me on Twitter, and please use the hash tag Bullying Stops Here.

Guilty on forty five counts. We will find out what it was like in the courtroom when jurors returned their verdict against former Penn State Coach, Jerry Sandusky.

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KAYE: Welcome back everyone, I am Randi Kaye. Glad you are with us. Out top story this morning is the Jerry Sandusky verdict. He was found guilty on forty five of the forty eight charges against him. All of them linked to the cases of the sexual abuse of young boys and right now, he is in custody and on suicide watch.

Earlier I talked to one of the Sandusky defense attorneys Karl Rominger, and he said the suicide watch is just for his client's protection. I also asked him if he and lead counsel Joe Amendola were surprised by the verdict.

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KARL ROMINGER, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Joe knew and I knew that we had a huge uphill battle and every not guilty that we got, we eeked out with very little time to prepare, with no continuances, you can get five continuances for a speeding ticket, but you can't get one for Jerry Sandusky.

We were doing thousands of pages, days before trial started so we simply were behind the eight ball from the beginning. We think with more time we could have developed a better defense, but that said, it was like climbing Mount Everest, to quote lead counsel, Amendola.

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KAYE: "In Session" Correspondent Jean Casarez was inside that courtroom as those verdicts were read. Jean, what was it like, it was guilty after guilty after guilty.

JEAN CASAREZ, TRUTV "IN SESSION" CORRESPONDENT: And it was silent, I mean, the whole courtroom is such a big courtroom, so historic and it was filled to capacity, but the judge had asked everyone to not verbalize at all and we learned who the foreperson was, the foreperson was Juror 4, an engineer, and he started reading off the verdict and hewn I heard the first guilty which was a first degree felony of child rape, I realized this was a life sentence, and he went on. But I must say, I was surprised when there was a not guilty on the top count of child rape for accuser two, now victim two, because the others were guilty, and that was the Mike McQueary witness, the Mike McQueary, the young man he witnessed in that shower.

KAYE: and was there any show of emotion, even from the jury members?

CASAREZ: I saw them to be stoic. I saw them walk in, they were serious, they didn't look that tired, the young man who is going to be a senior at Penn State University in the Fall, so he is a student, he has worn a tie every single day of this trial, and he still had his tie on, such a serious young man, and I think the most emotion I saw was very close to me, right before it all began and the jury walked in, one young man walked into that courtroom and it was Victim 6, the one from 1998 and he sat with his mother and possibly his sister or another family member, and they all held hands so tightly, and when that verdict was read, they were silent, but the sobbing, the crying, the tears, it was the most emotional, I think, in that courtroom.

KAYE: What about Jerry Sandusky's wife, Dottie, she testified, and Sandusky's attorney who I spoke with just a short time ago, Karl Rominger he said that he thought she was very helpful. What was your take?

CASAREZ: I think she could have been the most helpful witness for the defense because she was very likeable, she was on the stand, several female jurors were about her age, looked like her even, and she talked about them being married for forty six years come September, and the wonderful life they had led together, and the children they had raised, this was of course before Matt Sandusky came forward through his attorney saying he had been abused, and the jury never found out about that, that is why you sequester a jury, but I thought she could resonate with the jury, maybe jury nullification could happen, but I thought they could feel bad for her if he was convicted. Not so.

KAYE: In Sessions Jean Casarez, Jean thank you. Now let's bring in Psychotherapist, Dr. Janet Page, Jane, good morning to you.

JANET PAGE, PSYCHOTHERAPIST: Good morning.

KAYE: so, now we have this verdict. Give me an idea - some of the testimony was so disturbing and so difficult for these young men. Is this when the healing begins or did the healing actually begin in that courtroom as they testified?

PAGE: I would say it has to start now, once a crime like this is committed, you never can make it up to a victim. It is a haunting that they will always have. But the swiftness of the verdict I felt, was merciful. This was a crime that took a village. It went on and on, and the continuation, it was institutionalized, he was very powerful, so for him to be in a position of swiftly being declared guilty, and now put away, so that they never need be afraid again, that would give some relief.

KAYE: What were some of the things that were said, certainly by the defense, accusations against these men, they were conspiring, I mean, there was some pretty awful things that were said. Would that have an impact on them emotionally and mentally?

PAGE: Yes, but I think the far greater crime was (ph) on them by Sandusky himself. I think it was rather dreadful to attack it that way. Victims don't come forward, because they feel shame, they feel guilt, so of course they are more susceptible to anyone heaping more on them, so yes, of course that would be hard, but not comparable to what they had gone through.

KAYE: Can you imagine what they were going through with him sitting at that defense table just feet away from him in that courtroom?

PAGE: No, I can imagine only for them that it was just shattering, upsetting, but thank heavens they finally came forward

KAYE: Let's talk a little bit about Jerry Sandusky, I mean, he was a football hero, a former Penn State Coach, does he fit the typical pedophile predator profile?

PAGE: It seems so from everything I have read, I think there was a little more (ph) mania involved for him, in the way he would just leap in front of any TV camera to declare innocence with the feeling that, I don't know, he seemed to exude the concept that he thought he had personal charm, and would be believed, when in fact, the charm here was the magic of football and the position he held, and the protection.

KAYE: Such a terrible story for so many, really for everybody involved. Thank you very much.

PAGE: thank you, Randi.

KAYE: Concerns over privacy in your own back yard, hear what one Senator calls high tech Peeping Tom technology.

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KAYE: Let's take a look at stories that may have been off your radar, starting with photos of private moments now available for public viewing, like this man passed out on the side of the road, both are photos that you can see on Google Maps Street View. And New York Senator Chuck Schumer wants this to stop, he issued this statement to Google and Apple which is also working on 3-D mapping.

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SEN. CHUCK SCHUMER (D), NEW YORK: People should be free from worry of the high tech world of Peeping Tom technology violating ones privacy when in your own home.

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KAYE: Schumer suggests the companies should let communities know when they are going to be recording. And taking a cue from New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg the Mayor of Cambridge Massachusetts wants to outlaw large sugary drinks as well. But Mayor Henrietta Davis' proposal takes things a step further, she wants to ban free refills. That is getting a mixed reaction.

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UNIDENTIFIED MAN: Perhaps it is the first step that needs to be taken in order to really start to address the issue of soda and how it is damaging.

UNIDENTIFIED WOMAN: Just setting a ban I think is a silly thing, I think the focus should be on educating people why they shouldn't want that much.

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KAYE: They are in the trenches providing the press coverage everyone depends on, but they are being killed left and right in a war at Americas doorstep and there appears no end in sight. I will explain next.

But first, with a college degree and the down payment for a home, this week's CNN hero was living the American dream. But when T. Jackson Kaguri returned to his roots in Uganda, he saw how HIV/AIDS had wiped out an entire generation of parents, so he decided to help it is a story of tremendous sacrifice and joy.

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T. JACKSON KAGURI, CNN HERO: HIV/AIDS came striking like a machete in a cornfield, killing men and women, leaving 1.2 million children orphaned. The grandmothers stepped in and closed that gap. Some of them have up to fourteen children to raise.

I was born and raised in Nyaka Village. I moved to America, I went to Colombia University. I came to visit, I looked into the eyes of women who carried me as a child and said, Now is the time to give back. I am T. Jackson Kaguri, Nyaka AIDS Defense Project.

We started with five thousand dollars that my wife and I had saved for a house. We provide free education to children who are orphaned by HIV/AIDS. We provide them uniforms, healthcare, the library, clean water and we started giving them meals. We teach the grandmothers skills so they can support themselves.

Eleven years later, this project has produced close to six hundred students and helps about seven thousand grandmothers. I feel humbled looking in the faces of the children smiling, focused on what their dreams are going to be.

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KAYE: Imagine picking up the daily paper or turning on the TV and learning that reporters that you depend on for the daily news were murdered in cold blood, just for doing their job. For millions of people in Mexico it has become a daily ordeal in the drug war there. Nick Valencia knows the scenario all too well, so we wanted to ask him about this this morning.

Now, you have actually been there?

NICK VALENCIA, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Many times.

KAYE: What is it like for these journalists?

VALENCIA: Well, what you have to understand, Randi, many of these journalists didn't intend on being war correspondents. The war came to them in their back yard. But yet, people that were City Hall reporters before, education reporters, and now they are forced to cover the drug war, that has affected their lives.

KAYE: And there is a new documentary out, which is why we are talking about it, called (ph) which really represents the picture there on the ground. I am curious, Nick, are journalists on this side of the border being threatened as well?

VALENCIA: Well there have been calculated incidents for those of us that really investigate what is going on in Mexico on the other side, but the majority of the treats are going towards Mexican journalists. They have accepted the fear, but they haven't let it paralyze them.

KAYE: is there any end in sight? I mean, the government is cracking down, but the Cartels just keep on killing.

VALENCIA: Well, the Cartels have targeted journalists, they have intimidated them, when we were there, for instance, in (ph), Mexico, you saw the video that I shot last year, the Cartels intimidate journalists, so sometimes it may not be a direct assault on them, we were in a town called (ph) just outside of Boiris(ph) when we saw Halgone (ph) Halgone (ph) is somebody that keeps watch over the neighborhood, going around us, circling around us, letting us know that their presence was felt. So long as the Cartels continue to threaten the journalists that are trying to cover this story, it is going to be a hard road ahead, self censorship is a big issue right now in the Mexican media and this is a direct threat to the freedom of speech.

KAYE: Yes, and that is why they are killing them off, right, they don't want people named, they don't want the information out there?

VALENCIA: Right, this is vital information that is going out there, and any time there is a direct link that may be between the local Mexican government officials and the Cartels, it is not a good thing for the journalists.

KAYE: Nick Valencia, thank you. It is tough to see what is going on there, and of course we will keep following that.

Well, talk about a great birthday gift, Prince William turns thirty and gets a reported 15.5 million dollars. Happy birthday. I hope I get that sort of gift when I turn thirty again.

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KAYE: Thursday was a big day for the Royal Family, and who better to tell us about it than our very own Nadia Bilchik. You love the Royal Family.

NADIA BILCHIK, CNN EDITORIAL PRODUCER: I do, Prince William and Kate, they are so romantic.

KAYE: So William turned the big 3-0, right?

BILCHIK: He did turn thirty and inherited fifteen and a half million dollars. The man that would be king is now the richer prince, and that is only half of Princess Diana's estate. The other half will go to Prince Harry in 2014 when he becomes prince because you remember, well, if you follow the Royal Family, she got agouti seventeen million pounds in her marriage settlement, and that seventeen million pounds was very well invested. So Harry is getting fifteen and a half million pounds.

KAYE: So what do you give a man that has everything, right?

BILCHIK: Well he got a portrait of Kate apparently who is a very famous portrait maker a very beautiful portrait and she also gave him a custom made watch. And he got a Knighthood from the Queen, he is now Sir, which is something like the highest order of the Thistles, the highest order of Scottish hierarchy.

KAYE: and how is he celebrating the big day? Big plans I assume?

BILCHIK: He celebrated the day with a very quiet dinner, about twenty five to thirty people, and they had a murder mystery game that they played and rumor has it that Kate made him breakfast in bed, apparently she is quite a good cook.

KAYE: She cooks?

BILCHIK: We are going to be seeing a lot of the Royals at the Olympics come July because they are the Ambassadors for the British Olympic Team. So we will get a lot of Royal coverage.

KAYE: I can't get enough Royal coverage. All right Nadia, thank you.

So why didn't Jerry Sandusky take the stand in his child sex abuse trial, we get the answer from his defense attorney in just about ten minutes.

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