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London's Olympic Show; Romney Walking On Eggshells; Holmes Was Seeing A Psychiatrist; Security Jitters In London; Ruling in Baby Veronica Case; London Opening Ceremony Delivers; IOC Ignores Munich 11 at Opening Ceremony; Tracking an Accused Serial Infector

Aired July 28, 2012 - 06:00   ET

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RANDI KAYE, CNN ANCHOR: From CNN world headquarters in Atlanta, this is EARLY START WEEKEND.

Let the games begin. The 2012 Olympics now underway. Opening ceremonies brought fireworks, Paul McCartney, Doves on bikes. But wait until you see the queen's entrance.

Plus --

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I couldn't find even one single minute to have a memory of these 11 others who were murdered in Munich 40 years ago.

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KAYE: While the opening ceremonies brought joy to many in London, it brought pain to some in Israel. I'll talk with the widow of a former Olympics coach assassinated during the 1972 games who continues a 40- year fight for one moment of silence.

And later, new details on the Aurora shooting suspect. We'll tell you what CNN has learned about his mental state before the shooting.

It is Saturday, July 28th. Good morning, everyone. I'm Randi Kaye.

If you were waiting to watch London's Olympic ceremony today, well this is your spoiler alert. The ceremony was staged with style, imagination, emotion and humor. Queen Elizabeth officially opened the 2012 games after an epic journey through the United Kingdom's rich history.

Oscar winner Danny Boyle was the creative mind and director behind the periodic ceremony "Isles of Wonder." The recently crowned Tour de France champion, Britain's Bradley Wiggins, kicked things off, followed by a tour of the United Kingdom's four nations and defining moments that celebrated historic traditions of British society.

Perhaps one of the more memorable moments of the night was the prelude to the queen's introduction. Take a look at this.

Boyle used his movie magic to show the queen teaming up with the James Bond actor Daniel Craig, you saw there, in a scene that seems to show them parachuting into the Olympic Stadium. But stunt doubles actually jumped from the helicopter. It was not the queen.

Let's take you over to London's Olympic Park where Amanda Davies is joining us live this morning.

Good morning, Amanda.

So, we shared some of the highlights with our viewers just now. What are some of the other highlights? What stood out to you in those opening ceremonies?

AMANDA DAVIES, CNN SPORTS CORRESPONDENT: Morning, Randi.

You know, as you said, Danny Boyle called this show the "Isles of Wonder." And it left so many people wondering how on earth he managed to persuade the queen to jump out of a helicopter with James Bond 007. For me, that was most definitely the highlight.

But it was a show that had everything. Not just that kind of humor. It had drama. It was spectacular. It had Mr. Bean (ph). It had David Beckham in a speed boat going down The River Thames. And then it managed to maintain that great suspense, which we'd all been talking about, who was going to light the Olympic cauldron in the stadium to mark the official opening of the games. And it really kept everybody guessing right down to the moment it happened.

David Beckham passed the torch to Sir Steve Redgrave, the five-time Olympic champion rower. And then he ran it into the stadium. And then the honor was given to seven up and coming young British athletes. Very much in keeping with the theme here in London of inspiring a generation.

And it was spectacular. They lit a whole collection of flames that went up to form the great caldron. It was a show that went on until nearly 1:00 in the morning here in London. And this is what a few of the lucky people to have tickets thought of it.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It was awesome.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Awesome! Amazing! Out of this world! I can't even believe it.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We were representing the NHS (ph) nurses and we (INAUDIBLE).

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And how did it feel?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It's such an amazing atmosphere.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Amazing. Really great.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It was incredible. Such a buzz and a great vibe in the studio (INAUDIBLE). It was amazing.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: So in four years' time, when we think about this ceremony --

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What's the one thing we're going to remember?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The queen coming out of a helicopter.

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DAVIES: There are people still partying here in London. It's ridiculous. It's 11:00 in the morning. Still very much the morning after the night before. But as we were all coming in this morning, people were having parties in their balconies in the streets. And people are really using it as a fantastic excuse to celebrate, Randi.

KAYE: Hey, why not, right? Well, how are people reacting, though, to the opening ceremonies? Was it a success, do they think, or a flop?

DAVIES: Yes, it's not just the people there. This is the thing with all these opening ceremonies, isn't it? People say in many ways they're made for television or for those in the stadium. This one does seem to have pleased both sets of fans.

I've had a few tweets. Mo Catiba (ph) said "it was truly epic. Every bit of it. Can't imagine anyone disliking it." Iamblanksernus (ph) tweeted me saying, "just lost for words. It's been an amazing opening ceremony. I enjoyed every bit of it." Terryvotra (ph) said, "it was just breath taking. Never would Paris have produced such an extraordinary show." Because, of course, it was Paris who were going head to head with London for the right to host these games.

And then we can have a look at what some of the papers were saying as well. One shot dominating the front page of all of them. This incredible image of the five Olympic rings that was forged and then set alight in flames. This is the front page of "The Guardian" "Night of Wonder." This is "The Daily Telegraph," "Going For Gold" with the same picture. This is "The Daily Mail," "Blast-off." Again, the same iconic image.

And this is the front page of the sports section, because now it is a case of "Let the Gold's Begin." Nineteen events have got underway today. Twelve gold medals will be decided. So partying over and the action is well and truly underway, Randi.

KAYE: Amanda Davies, exciting stuff. Thank you so much for bringing us the latest from there.

The first full day of competition at the 2012 Olympics is underway with a total of 12 medals up for grabs. One of the most highly anticipated showdowns will be between American swimmers Michael Phelps and Ryan Lochte. Phelps says this race will be the final time anyone will ever see him swim the dreaded 400 individual medley. Ryan Lochte said it's opportunity to establish himself. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

RYAN LOCHTE, U.S. OLYMPIC SWIMMER: Well, I'm not really going just to swim to beat Michael. There is not -- Michael's just one person. There's a bunch of other swimmers across the world that I've got to worry about. So, I mean, I'm just doing what I'd normally do and I race.

MICHAEL PHELPS, U.S. OLYMPIC SWIMMER: The only person I can control is myself. So I'm going to get on the water and race as hard as I can. If a record happens, it happens.

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KAYE: And spoiler alert. We should tell you, Phelps just won.

South Korea is the favorite to win the gold in the men's team archery event today. They're lead by world champion Dong-hyun, who happens to be blind in one eye. Other games to watch today will be the first day of fencing. Italy's Valentina Vezzali attempts to become the first woman to win individual goals in the same event at four consecutive Olympics. Plus, the first round of the tennis begins featuring top seed Roger Federer. And the U.S. women's basketball team kick off that tournament against Croatia.

Mitt Romney heads to Israel today. The Republican presidential candidate hoping to redeem himself after some pretty embarrassing gaffes in London. British newspapers had a field day after Romney appeared to question whether the British capital was ready to host the Olympics, calling him everything from, quote, party pooper to Mitt the twit. Our national political correspondent Jim Acosta is in London.

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JIM ACOSTA, CNN NATIONAL POLITICAL CORRESPONDENT: The headlines here in London were not what Mitt Romney anticipated when he embarked on this overseas trip, but his campaign is confident he can clear the hurdles ahead.

ACOSTA (voice-over): Mitt Romney hit the reset button on his overseas charm offensive. During his lone public meeting of the day in London, he was asked by the leader of Ireland about how he had to walk to the Irish embassy due to the city's intense pre-Olympics traffic.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: So you had to walk from the hotel?

ACOSTA: Romney's response?

MITT ROMNEY (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Not bad at all. I enjoyed -- I enjoyed the walk.

ACOSTA: Romney is walking on eggshells and eager to please after he was blasted by British leaders for appearing to question London's readiness to host the Olympic games. Dubbed the "party-pooper" in "The Daily Mail," "nowhere man" in "The Times of London," and "Mitt the twit" in "The Sun," Romney sidestepped the controversy in an interview with CNN's Piers Morgan.

PIERS MORGAN, HOST, CNN'S "PIERS MORGAN TONIGHT": You've been slightly criticized on knocking the British enthusiasm. As if you hadn't picked up on much enthusiasm. Are you feeling it now?

ROMNEY: Well, I'm delighted to see the kind of support that has been around the torch, for instance.

ACOSTA: The uproar in London reached its crescendo when the city's mayor taunted Romney in front of 60,000 people in a pre-game celebration.

MAYOR BORIS JOHNSON, LONDON: There's a guy called Mitt Romney who wants to know whether, one, when we're ready. He wants to know whether we're ready. Are we ready? Are we ready? Yes, we are.

ACOSTA: Romney is also taking heat for disclosing that he visited with the head of Britain's intelligence service, the MI-6. A meeting normally kept secret.

ROMNEY: I appreciated the insights and perspectives of the leaders of the government here and opposition here, as well as the head of MI-6, and as we discussed Syria.

ACOSTA: But Romney's top surrogates are brushing off the controversy, seeing openings in the next two legs of his foreign trip, Israel and Poland.

NORM COLEMAN, ROMNEY SUPPORTER: The governor will be in Poland. Poland had the rug pulled out from them on the missile defense.

ACOSTA: President Obama had his own awkward moments in Britain last year when he tried to toast Queen Elizabeth as an orchestra played "God Save The Queen."

BARACK OBAMA, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: In the words of Shakespeare, to this blessed plot, this earth, this realm, this England. To the queen.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: "The Sun" (INAUDIBLE). It sells papers.

ACOSTA (on camera): They're selling papers here?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes.

ACOSTA (voice-over): As for that morning headline hangover, we found Londoners who were willing to cut Romney some royal slack.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Anything in "The Sun" should be taken with a bucket load of salt.

ACOSTA: Mitt Romney's next stop is Israel, where he has a full slate of meetings scheduled with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, as well as other Israeli and Palestinian leaders. Then a major foreign policy address in Jerusalem.

Jim Acosta, CNN, London.

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KAYE: Jim, thank you very much.

And just to clarify, Michael Phelps just won his heat in the 400 individual medley. He moves on to the finals, which are tonight. So that was the heat that he won.

A story that from the start seemed destine to end with broken hearts. We've told you about the custody fight for baby Veronica. Now a court sides if she'll stay with her adoptive parents or her biological father who wants her back.

Plus, what a man said to police that got them really worried about a possible Colorado copycat attack.

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KAYE: Welcome back.

We've learned the man accused of killing 12 people in Aurora, Colorado, last week had been seeing a psychiatrist. That's according to a court document filed just yesterday by James Holmes' defense attorneys. Here's CNN's Drew Griffin with more on these new developments.

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DREW GRIFFIN, CNN SPECIAL INVESTIGATIONS UNIT: According to his attorney in Colorado, the 24-year-old accused of killing 12 and gunning down dozens of others was seeing a psychiatrist at the time of the shooting. It's a huge development that stems from that package that was mailed to a professor at the University of Colorado's Aurora campus on Monday.

According to a motion filed in Colorado, just yesterday, that professor was actually James Holmes' psychiatrist, Dr. Lynne Fenton. She is the head of student medical health services at the University of Colorado's Aurora campus. And according to Holmes' attorney, Mr. Holmes was a psychiatric patient of Dr. Fenton and his communications with her are protected.

That attorney is now trying to get a hold of that package and the contents of which, according to CBS News, supposedly describe how Holmes would kill people. The information is privileged, according to Holmes' attorney, confidential, and should not be in the hands of police.

Now, I want to tell you this. That on Monday, school officials, including the campus police chief, did answer some questions. And I want you to specifically listen to this exchange I had with the police chief regarding Holmes' interaction with campus security.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) GRIFFIN: Chief Abraham, did your department or any of your officers have any interaction with this student whatsoever? (INAUDIBLE) retrospect (ph)?

CHIEF DOUG ABRAHAM, UNIV. OF COLO. ANSCHUTZ MEDICAL CAMPUS POLICE: We -- I don't have any information on him at all.

GRIFFIN: Did you (INAUDIBLE) records check on him?

ABRAHAM: Yes. And as you already know, I think there was a traffic ticket from Aurora. That's it for us, then and everyone.

GRIFFIN: Nobody ever brought him to your attention in any way and no (INAUDIBLE) like that?

ABRAHAM: We've had no contact with him on a criminal matter whatsoever as a police department.

GRIFFIN: A spokesperson for the university told CNN yesterday that because of gag orders that have been put in place, the chief wasn't exactly being forthcoming when he gave us that answer. Here is the quote from the school. "Out of concern with violating the court order, the chief didn't answer those questions directly."

Now the question is, what else did the school know? What did or did not get reported to authorities? And the fact that James Holmes was seeing a psychiatrist at the time of the shooting only raises more speculation.

Drew Griffin, CNN, Atlanta.

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KAYE: Drew, thanks.

The deadly shooting rampage in Colorado has raised alarm bells all across the country. Now a Maryland man is in custody after he allegedly called himself a "joker" and threatened to load his guns and blow everyone up. Police found a huge cache of guns and ammunition in his apartment. The man had allegedly threaded his supervisor. Police say they are not taking any chances.

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CHIEF MARK MAGAW, PRINCE GEORGE'S CO. POLICE: Well, when he said that he had made reference to "the joker," we took this very, very seriously and moved quickly to have him evaluated mentally. But that's the way we took it, that he was making reference to Colorado. He had 25 weapons in his home, most of them automatic weapons. Several automatic rifles, thousands of rounds of ammunition. I would say that very few people have that much automatic weapons, ammunition. He was very serious, in my opinion. Something that we could not walk away from.

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KAYE: The man is undergoing a mental health evaluation.

London's Olympic security forces have a heavy burden on their shoulders, protecting the athletes and spectators there to see them. But securing the games hasn't been without its share of problems.

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KAYE: Securing the Olympics. Now that the opening ceremony is over, the big job turns to making sure the thousands of athletes and those there to support them are safe from any danger. But addressing security hasn't been without its problems. Our senior international correspondent Dan Rivers has a closer look.

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DAN RIVERS, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): This is the image the British government wants to portray on Olympic security. An unprecedented show of strength. Missiles around the capital, warships on the Thames, and aircraft on standby.

But there's also this, chaos as private security form G4S struggles to train more than 10,000 guards for Olympic venues and fails miserably.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It's a humiliating shambles, isn't it?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I cannot disagree with you.

RIVERS: We caught up with some G4S recruits in east London who were equally candid about the disorganization of the company.

KALI TURNER, G4S TRAINEE: Lots of people have just given up and they already have their accreditation and travel passes for around London. They already have their uniform and they've just quit because G4S has just been a complete mess.

RIVERS: Many of these young recruits still don't know where they'll be working. Some are still waiting to complete their training and get their accreditation or uniforms. Most are students or long-term unemployed. Under the current security structure, these staff are not under the command of the police.

But former senior policemen Tarique Ghaffur says that's a mistake. He drew up the initial Olympic security plan before leaving the force and says multiple private security firms should have been used, overseen by the police, not Olympic organizers.

TARIQUE GHAFFUR, FORMER ASST. COMMANDER, LONDON METRO POLICE: I very strongly now believe that there should be one single person who -- in fact, a uniformed person, who, in fact, should be in charge. And that should be the reference point at which everything from routine security incidents, all the way through emergencies should actually go to.

RIVERS: The man who is now coordinating Olympic security says that criticism is unfair. ASST. COMMISSIONER CHRIS ALLISON, LONDON METRO POLICE: I tightly reject what Mr. Ghaffur has said in relation to the command and control arrangements. What we're using for (INAUDIBLE) is what we use day in, day out across the country. It's very successful. It delivers major sporting events every single day.

RIVERS: The army has stepped in to plug the gap. Thousands of extra troops have been mobilized. They're being required to work closely with the police, embedded in every part of the police operation, including the London security control center for the Olympics.

RIVERS (on camera): This is the Olympic security nerve center for London with 20,000 cameras, 8,000 more than normal, and up to 300 staff who are able to monitor just about every inch of all of the Olympic venues.

RIVERS (voice-over): And if they do spot something, the men and women here have a formidable arsenal to call on. Typhoon jets at RAF Norfolk to the northwest of London are on standby to intercept any aircraft trying to breach the strict air exclusion zone around the Olympic Village.

DAN BEST, RAF SNIPER: We've got the sharpshooter. My number one sat behind it to take the shot if need be.

RIVERS: That, of course, is the worst case scenario in the air. But when it comes to securing the perimeter of the Olympic venues on the ground, the contingency plans have already been tested by the failure of G4S.

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KAYE: And that was Dan Rivers reporting for us.

Next hour, we'll talk about the challenges of security at the Olympics when a 20 year veteran of Scotland Yard joins us live from England.

A court ruling in a controversial custody battle. Just who will raise this adorable little girl? Her name is baby Veronica. Her adoptive parents, who have cared for her since birth, will they raise her, or her biological father who wants her back?

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KAYE: South Carolina's supreme court has finally reached a decision in a bitter, bitter custody battle. You've probably seen this adorable face on our air before. Baby Veronica is her name. I shared her story with you a few months ago. And now the supreme court of South Carolina agrees with the lower court and saying this little girl from Charleston has to be raised by her biological father, Dustin Brown.

Now the problem here, he gave her up for adoption to this couple, Matt and Melanie Capobianco, who cared for her since birth, and signed a waiver saying he would never contest the adoption. But he changed his mind and he got her back using a little known federal law from 1978. It's called the Indian Child Welfare Act. You see, Brown is a member of the Cherokee Nation, which means Veronica is part Cherokee, too. Nick Valencia is joining me now to talk a little bit more about this.

This is such a difficult ruling for the family. They've been waiting a couple of months to hear what the supreme court would rule. But we're talking about this law from 1978 to protect Indian children. That's how it was set up. But this doesn't seem like the intent for what it was intended to be used for.

NICK VALENCIA, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, the critics of this statute, this federal statute, that's trumped South Carolina law, which, as you know, if a father is not involved in a baby's -- in the birth or support before the birth, he immediately loses parental rights. Well, this federal statute little known, Indian Child Welfare Act, this was used by the father, Dustin Brown, which, as you mentioned, he's part of the Cherokee Nation, also a U.S. soldier based in Oklahoma, he used this little known federal statute and did an about face. He signed a waiver, Randi, four months after the baby was born. Four months already since the baby was born, saying that he would not contest the adoption. Two weeks later, he does this about face and now the South Carolina supreme court ruling in his favor. That baby Veronica, now in his custody.

KAYE: So it really comes down to federal law, which is the 1978 Indian Child Welfare Act trumping the state law?

VALENCIA: Seemingly trumping this state law, yes.

KAYE: Right. Right. One of the parts of the story that doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me is that the biological father, as we said, signed this waiver. You know, it seems like anybody who adopts a child, I mean, when you look at the circumstances here, could they be at risk? I mean is this really legal under the circumstances to just switch your mind, and change your mind and get this baby back?

VALENCIA: Well, our CNN legal analyst, Jeffrey Toobin, poured over this majority opinion and the dissenting opinion, and it appears, Randi, that the court -- that the South Carolina supreme court didn't rule in the best interests of baby Veronica, but ruled in the best interests of the tribe, which, in essence, is what this statute is supposed to do. The critics of this statute are saying this is just an outdated law, a federal statute that was made (ph) back in the 1970s when, as you reported a few months ago, 30 percent of Native American children were being just ripped away from their families, 90 percent of which were not being put into Native American homes.

KAYE: Right.

VALENCIA: So this is meant to uphold and sort of protect the rights of Native American children. It was used by Dustin Brown. And the critics of this are saying it's just breaking up households. The family, that you've been in touch with, just heartbroken over this. It's upsetting a lot of people there locally and nationally.

KAYE: Yes. Well, that's the thing. I mean it's just so upsetting. But in a statement, Veronica's adoptive parents said this. "There really are no words to describe the incredible heartbreak, disappoint and pain that we are feeling. This is a complete failure within our justice system." So I guess, Nick, the question is, I mean, is this the end of the line now that the higher court has ruled or can these folks do anything to try and get her back?

VALENCIA: Well, as you know, this federal statute, the jurisdiction rests in the hands of the U.S. Supreme Court which takes Native American cases, cases on Native Americans regularly throughout the year. You know, they get thousands of cases every year and they only hear dozens of them.

KAYE: Right.

VALENCIA: But so this has one more step to go and there is another appeal process. But right now, it's just a heartbreaking situation for the Capobiancos.

KAYE: Sure is. I mean, even the critics that we spoken with, they all say, you know, we get it, we get the law, it was designed to protect these kids, but there shouldn't be just a blanket reason why they do that, especially in a case like this.

Nick Valencia, thank you very much. So, what do you think about this, we'd love to know. Should baby Veronica be raised by her biological father or her adoptive family? The Capobiancos love to know what you think. You could tweet me @RandiKayeCNN. I'll be sure to share some of your comments later this morning.

Well, across the pond to London, now fans are cheering on their team for the first full day on the Olympic Games. We're going live inside the fan zone.

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KAYE: Welcome back. Thirty four minutes past the hour, I'm Randi Kaye. Thanks for starting your morning with us.

We begin this half hour with today's big event, the Olympics. Yes, it is the big day. Queen Elizabeth officially opened the 2012 games in London while the creative mind behind the ceremony Danny Boyle pulled off a visually stunning show. But perhaps, the queen stole the show last night making her film debut as a bond girl. Take a look.

I don't know about you but that's just cracks me up. James Bond actor Daniel Craig served as the 86-year-old monarch's escort. Well, it was stunt doubles, don't worry, it wasn't the queen. They jumped from the helicopter parachuting towards the stadium.

Amanda Davies is live in London for us. Amanda, good morning. Let's talk about that event today that has everyone talking certainly here in the U.S. Michael Phelps versus Ryan Lochte.

DAVIES: It does. But just before we go on to that, I think maybe the queen might have got a little bit a taste for the high life. I bet you never expected to say that phrase, the queen of the bungle to do. But the big structure behind me, the orbit that you can see, it looks a bit like a helter skelter, the queen has just been up there visiting. It's the tallest structure in Britain, 115 meters tall. And she's been up on the viewing platform this morning looking resplendent in royal blue.

So, yes, I just want to mention that. We're hoping to get some pictures on that a little bit later on. But yes, most of the attention today is on the Aquatic Center which is also behind me. The wings building you can see over there because nine gold medals will be decided and it is all about that battle between Michael Phelps and Ryan Lochte as you've said. The heat between of the 400 meters individual medley has been taking place this morning. Michael Phelps has decided he wasn't going to the opening ceremony last night because he wanted to rest up and get the best preparation.

Maybe, he should have done because the heat is really didn't go his way at all. He did win his heat, but he was in one of the slowest heat. So he scraped through to the final by just .07 of a second. Eight of the swimmers in the heat make it through to the final and he was the eighth of eight. So he only just scraped through. Ryan Lochte won his heat and made it through in second place. So it all looks set for a great finish later on this evening in the final. It really is, you know, they many medals Michael Phelps, 14 gold Olympic medals against Ryan Lochte who's one just three but Lochte had the upper hand in recent times, hasn't he? But this is Phelps' final competition between retirement and he wants to go out with a bang.

KAYE: Oh, he sure does. That's why he's resting up. So, we'll see what works out for him. Amanda Davies, thank you very much. Keep an eye on the queen there behind you, as well.

DAVIES: I will.

KAYE: Diet and exercise is key to maintaining a healthy weight. We all know that. But what if you just can't give up those not so good for you foods. Well, you'll want to stay for this one. Fitness expert, Mark MacDonald is going to tell us how to have it all, pizzas, burgers, and a slim waistline. Can it really be?

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KAYE: All right, dieters, listen up. What if I told you that you could lose weight but still have all the foods that you love? You can eat pizza, coffee, even alcohol. Sound too good to be true. Well, that's exactly what celebrity fitness and nutrition expert Mark MacDonald teaches. He says that with moderation, we really can have it all. So we sent our editorial producer Nadia Bilchik and her daughter Alexa to find out more.

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NADIA BILCHIK, CNN EDITORIAL PRODUCER: Mark and I, as you know, have spoken about me losing to ten pounds.

MARK MACDONALD, FITNESS NUTRITION EXPERT: Yes. And Lexi has battled with her weight. Lexi, you tell Mark.

ALEXA KESLER, DIETER: I've starved myself. I've done every single thing. And what happens is I feel good for a couple of months and then I'm back to where I don't want to be and it happens every single time. I go out with friends and drink and do all of those things and not feel like it's controlling my life.

MACDONALD: I want you to know, you can eat the food that you love, you can drink alcohol, all in moderation. You can do everything that you want to do. We just have to teach you how to balance your body. And with the right exercise, you burn that fat up.

We have to take the foods that you love, both of you, and simply put in the right amount of protein, fat, carbohydrates every single meal. That's it.

BILCHIK: Right.

MACDONALD: Second, the right calories per meal. And third, you need to eat five to six times a day about every three to four hours. When you to that, your body will be balanced, you will release the stored fat and only will you look great and you'll lose your weight and your body fat, you will feel great. And you will permanently reprogram your metabolism.

So, right now, she's at 167.6 pounds weight wise. She's 31.4 percent body fat. So, that's a little too high for her. She's 52.6 pounds of fat and 114.9 pounds of lean body mass. Now, lean body mass is your muscle, your blood, your water, everything besides fat. The goal that's going to really get her the look that she wants is going to be 145 pounds, 19 percent body fat. Realistically, overall, I would say this would be a three-month process.

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KAYE: And Mark and Alexa join me now here. Mark, let's start with you. Good morning. We just heard that your goal is to help Alexa drop about 25 pounds and 12 percent body fat over the next three months. What do you think her biggest challenge is going to be?

MACDONALD: Well, Randi, you know, it's great to be on. And, you know, I think the biggest challenge with Lexi is going to be shifting her mind-set to make sure that her actions are going to meet her expectations. She's been a chronic dieter. You know, she struggled with food, she struggled with gaining weight and losing weight. So, we have to let go of the quick fix mentality and really educate her about how to stabilize her blood sugar, stabilize her hormones, release her stored fat and then teach her how to optimize her exercise. When she does that, she can really permanently reprogram her metabolism. So shifting her mind-set, most important.

KAYE: So, Alexa, Mark has a three-month plan for you. Are you optimistic?

KESLER: I am optimistic. You know, as he said, it's really hard to change your mind. I'm used to losing weight in a week, you know, doing -- diet losing 30 pounds in two weeks, seeing the results. And Mark said to me something very, you know, important. He said, do you like the way you look or do you like the way you feel? I love the way I look when I lose 30 pounds in two weeks, but I hate the way I feel.

KAYE: Yes.

KESLER: And for the first time in my life, the reason I was ready to take this journey is the first time in my life, I'm not worried about the weight. I'm worried about getting healthy, getting my body back.

KAYE: Right.

KESLER: You know, in the right way because --

KAYE: And it makes a difference in how you feel, what you're eating and what you're putting in your body.

KESLER: It makes such a difference. Even two days of eating correctly, be on Mark's plan. I feel like I should look on the outside.

KAYE: And you have some exciting news, I understand. Progress?

KESLER: Progress, yes, which is, you know, as -- it's not all about what you see on the scale and that's something Mark had to explain to me. You know, a lot of people get on the scale and they're so worried about the numbers. And that can really kind of put you down about it. And so, when I first went in there, I didn't lose as much weight as I thought, but I lost body fat. And that's something really important. And you know, it's going to take time. And that's something that's just, you know, doing it the right way.

KAYE: Mark, just very quickly, for the folks at home. Why should we pay attention to the scale every day?

MACDONALD: Well, because it goes beyond that. Like Lexi is down six pounds of body fat and she's dropped three-and-a-half percent body fat. And weight is just a part of the process. She looks better, she feels leaner, her clothes fit better. She loses fat and then the weight comes. A lot of times when someone has a sticky set-point where their body holds weight, it just doesn't come the next day. And what you ate the day before, how much salt you had, if you drink alcohol, all these factors determine your weight. So it's so much more than just weight. Now, weight matters, but it's only a piece of the equation.

KAYE: Right.

MACDONALD: And Lexi is winning with her health and she's blowing it up in a good way.

KAYE: Of course, of course. Well, Mark, we know you have great advice. Mark MacDonald, thank you very much and Alexa, thank you. We'll continue to check on you.

KESLER: Absolutely.

KAYE: So keep up the great work, all right?

KESLER: Thank you.

MACDONALD: Thanks, Randi. KAYE: We are going to follow up on this three month journey and see how it progresses, and then hopefully, we can get a tip or two as well for the rest of us. So, thanks again.

MACDONALD: Remembering the Munich 11. Eleven Olympians killed by terrorists at the Munich Olympics 40 years ago, but the opening ceremony came and went with no acknowledgement at all. We'll talk to a widow of one of the victims who has been fighting for a moment of silence for decades.

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KAYE: It has been 40 years since 11 Israeli Olympians were killed at the hands of terrorists in Munich. The victims' widows and people around the world including President Obama and Mitt Romney have urged for a moment of silence at the Olympic opening ceremony.

But last night, the International Olympic Committee refused to specifically honor those victims during the opening ceremony. The IOC held a moment of silence on Monday. A low key event held at the Olympic village for about 100 people. But that doesn't do justice for the wife of Israeli fencer Andre Spitzer. He was killed in those attacks.

On the phone from Tel Aviv, Israel is his widow Ankie Spitzer who has been fighting for the moment of silence for years.

Ankie, thank you for joining me this morning. Let's start with what happened last night before the entrance of all the athletes. There was a moment of silence held for victims of war and also a memorial wall, but no specific mention, again, of the Munich 11. Do you wish that you had been asked to contribute to this memorial wall?

ANKIE SPITZER, WIFE OF ANDRE SPITZER (on the phone): Well, you know, we are, of course, very, very disappointed that, again, the IOC gave into terror. Because, you know, they told us that all the Arab delegations, 46 of them, they would threaten a boycott if the 11 murdered Israelis would be remembered. But, you know, we at home, we stood in a minute of silence, when you spoken with us, many, many other people in the stadium and, you know, also those who supported our request, they came along all these years we have been fighting by ourselves.

But this time it was a different thing. You know, we are supported, you know, by lots of people in the democratic world. We are supported by governments, even by President Obama. So, we feel we are not alone and we -- you know, no minute of silence, no minute but you are not going to get silence, either, because we continue our fight.

KAYE: Let me ask you about the official news agency of the Palestinian authority. He actually sent a letter to the president of the IOC thanking him for not mentioning Munich and the Munich 11 in the opening ceremony. The letter said that it would have spread racism. How do you feel about that?

SPITZER: Well, isn't that ironic? I mean, I think it's almost cynical, you know. Because what we asked, you know, is a minute of silence. But we spoke to the president of the IOC just two days ago. And he explained to him, we gave him all kinds of options, you cannot -- if you stand in front of thousands of young athletes, you cannot just disregard it. And if you want to inspire a generation, which is the motto of your Olympics, you know, tell them, let us not forget what happened in Munich so that this will never, ever happened again.

Our message is not a message of hatred or of revenge. The opposite. We want to tell them, you know, let's work together, that this will never happen again. But they didn't accept that in spite of a petition which was put on by the JCC in Rockland in New York. They gathered hundreds and 10,000 signatures from people from all over the world. One hundred and fifty five countries, you know, who all support this because we feel that if you forget history, you are going to repeat it and that is the whole of our message.

KAYE: Is that why you want this moment? Is that why you want this moment of silence? Is this about closure or is this about sending a message to the world? Because you have been fighting this -- fighting for this now for decades.

SPITZER: Well, it's both. You know, and first of all remembering but it's also for the IOC to take finally a stand against international terror. And I asked the president of the IOC, you know, who was himself an athlete in the year 1972. And he came with the same dream as our husbands and our fathers. And the only different is he went up in the ranks and our husbands came home in coffins. And I said to him also, you know, why can't you do this? What is your problem? And he said, well, in Munich when I was an athlete, I had to decide if I was going to stay in the games or if I was going home.

And he didn't want to hand that victory to the terrorists, so he stayed. I said, but now you are handling it victory to the terrorist. Even 40 years later, change your mind. And he just leaned over the table and he said, I'm not going to do it. So, you know, we'll fight on.

KAYE: I'm sure you will.

SPITZER: We have so many support from so many people and we know that one day it's going to happen because they owe it to these 11 Israelis who were part of the Olympic family.

KAYE: Ankie Spitzer, thank you so much for your time this morning. I appreciate that.

SPITZER: Thank you, Randi.

KAYE: A possible multi-state string of hepatitis C and hundreds of unsuspecting hospital patients could also be infected. We'll tell you how it happened and where.

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KAYE: Welcome back, everyone. A warning for former hospital patients in eight states. You could be infected with Hepatitis C. Police say, a lab technician may have spread hepatitis C to hundreds. Now health officials are trying to track down patients that he came into contact with.

Senior medical correspondent Elizabeth Cohen has the story.

ELIZABETH COHEN, CNN SENIOR MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT: Randi, federal officials say, David Kwiatkowski took narcotics meant for patients and used them on himself and then gave patients syringes affected with Hepatitis C. Authorities believe that he infected 30 people with Hepatitis C at Exeter Hospital in New Hampshire in 2012.

Now we've learned that in 2010, Kwiatkowski surrendered his license in Arizona as a Radiologic Tech. Now, that was when the licensing board there started investigating him after an incident at a hospital in Arizona. They interviewed an employee who worked with Kwiatkowski and here is what that employee had to say.

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(voice-over) The employee told the licensing board, "I looked in and found Dave lying on his back in the bathroom stall. I looked in the toilet and spotted a 5cc syringe and a needle floating in the water. The label was a blue Fentanyl label. He then said, expletive, I am going to jail."

Fentanyl is a powerful narcotic often used in hospitals. Now, while this Arizona board was investigating Kwiatkowski, Kwiatkowski voluntarily surrendered his license and he wrote a letter to the board saying and I quote, "I, David Kwiatkowski is surrendering my Arizona license at will because I don't have the resources nor the money to fight the accusations and willing to wait to be eligible for reinstated in three years."

Now, later that very same month, Kwiatkowski went on to work in hospitals in Philadelphia, Kansas, Georgia and then New Hampshire.

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(on camera) An expert in so-called drug diversion says, it's all too common that a health professional will be investigated in one state and then leave to go work in another state.

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JOHN BURKE, PRESIDENT, NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF DRUG DIVERSION INVESTIGATORS: It's a very big problem. And it's a problem that's nothing new. It's been going on for -- oh, for some time. It is much worse than we probably know.

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COHEN: Randi, we reached out to Kwiatkowski's lawyer. He said he had no comment. Kwiatkowski is in jail in New Hampshire. On Tuesday, he waived his right to a federal detention hearing -- Randi. KAYE: Thank you very much, Elizabeth. We've got much more ahead on "CNN SATURDAY MORNING" which starts right after this.

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