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Congressman Calls For U.N. Ambassador to Resign; FDA Warns About Online Pharmacies; Upcoming Supreme Court Cases; Obama and Romney Stances on Gun Control; Attack on Czech President; Man Offers $64 Million For Suitor For His Daughter; Thirty-eight Days Until Election Day; No Bail for Anti-Islam Filmmaker; Ending Child Prostitution; The Search for Jimmy Hoffa; Schwarzenegger Opens Up in New Book
Aired September 29, 2012 - 08:00 ET
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DEBORAH FEYERICK, CNN ANCHOR: And good morning, everyone. I'm Deborah Feyerick in for Randi Kaye.
VICTOR BLACKWELL, CNN ANCHOR: I'm Victor Blackwell. It's 8:00 on the East Coast, 5:00 out west. Thanks for starting your day with us and we're starting with new revelations on the deadly attack in Libya. It's the attack that killed Ambassador Chris Stevenson, three other Americans.
FEYERICK: The U.S. intelligence community now says that it was a deliberate terrorist assault. CNN intelligence correspondent Suzanne Kelly has more.
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SUZANNE KELLY, CNN INTELLIGENCE CORRESPONDENT: Deb and Victor, this is really the fullest accounting yet on behalf of the intelligence community, which rarely ever ventures into the public domain on issues like this, to issue a statement like this about what they knew. Right now the intelligence community says it was -- this was a deliberate and organized terrorist assault carried out by extremists affiliated with, or sympathetic to al Qaeda. Now, that comes from Shawn Turner. He's the director of communications for the office of the director of National Intelligence.
I think the reason why we're seeing something like this too, some two plus weeks after the attack, is that there's a reason growing frustration within the intelligence community itself about how information is being used. There's really a lot of frustration about that initial assessment being that this was a protest, a was a spontaneous attack that grew out of a protest in response to those anti-Muslim films we've seen broadcast in Cairo. It appears that as more information came in, that picture changed.
The story, however, from administration officials didn't change so dramatically. And I think that really shows that there are still unanswered questions. We don't have a direct timeline about when administration officials knew that this was a terrorist attack and when they came out and actually said it. So I think you're going to see a lot more questions around this story, but, still, this is a really unbelievable statement put out by the intelligence community -- Deb and Victor.
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FEYERICK: All right Suzanne Kelly for us in Washington. Thanks.
BLACKWELL: Let's talk for a moment about what was said immediately after the Benghazi attacks. Some of the statements were made by the U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, Susan Rice. Now, New York Congressman Peter King is calling for her to step down. Here's what he told our Wolf Blitzer.
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REP. PETER KING (R), NEW YORK (via telephone): I believe that this was such a failure of foreign policy message and leadership. Such a misstatement of facts as were known at the time. And for her to go on all those shows and to in effect be our spokesman for the world and be misinforming the American people and our allies and countries around the world, to me, somebody has to pay the price for this. We've got too much things to go wrong and everyone forgets about it the next day.
I think we have to send a clear message and on such a vital issue as this where an American ambassador was killed, where by all the accumulation of evidence at the time, the presumption had to be it was terrorism. I can see why if they wanted to say it's too early to say it's definitively terrorism. But to rule out terrorism, to say it was not terrorism at that time was, to me, a terrible mistake to make, whether it was done intentionally or unintentionally. And to show the significance of that, I believe she should resign, yes.
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BLACKWELL: The White House is standing by Rice. It says everything she said in that interview was cleared by interagency groups based on the latest information the U.S. had and certainly nothing was designed to mislead the American people.
FEYERICK: And now to Michigan, the search for Jimmy Hoffa. Police say there are quote no discernible remains in the soil samples that were taken beneath the storage shed in suburban Detroit. A tipster claimed a body was buried there around the time the former Teamster leader disappeared. The samples are being sent to Michigan State University for testing but police doubt right now that any remains would be from Hoffa.
BLACKWELL: And some crazy video in Florida. Boca Raton Saks Fifth Avenue was the target of a smash and grab last week. The FBI released this dramatic video. You see the guys run in about an hour before closing time, push over the display case, smash it with a sledgehammer and then they run off with all the jewelry they pick out of it. One customer hid inside a locked closet and called 911. Right now, there's a $5,000 reward for information about these suspects.
FEYERICK: And it sounds too good to be true, it probably is. That's the new warning from the FDA, highlighting the problem with online pharmacies. Officials say those low price medications on the Internet could be fake, expired, even possibly contaminated. The National Association of Boards of Pharmacies says less than 3 percent of online pharmacies actually meet state and Federal laws.
BLACKWELL: Speaking of medications, all of us have a few in our cabinet, the unwanted, unused, probably really old prescription pills. Today is the day to get rid of them. You can drop them off, no questions asked, as part of the DEA's national prescription drug take back day. Check justice.gov/dea for a location near you. Last April, 276 tons of unwanted medication were collected.
FEYERICK: Just remarkable. The Supreme Court is back in session beginning Monday. There's a whole new set of landmark cases they're going to be hearing.
BLACKWELL: But as CNN justice correspondent Joe Johns reports, a lot of people are still focusing on the big one that closed out the last session.
JOE JOHNS, CNN SENIOR CORRESPONDENT: Deb and Victor, at the beginning of the new session, the Supreme Court is going to be closely watched for signs of strain between the justices or anything else that suggests things may have changed since the health care ruling which arguably was the biggest opinion by the court since Bush versus Gore more than a decade ago.
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JOHNS (voice-over): Right after the Supreme Court's health care decision in June, Chief Justice John Roberts joked to colleague that he would find an island fortress to escape the political heat. Here's how Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg described the eventful spring.
JUSTICE RUTH BADER GINSBURG, SUPREME COURT: The term has been more than usually taxing. Some have called it the term of the century.
JOHNS: Now three months later, the court is back and there are no signs of it cooling down.
THOMAS GOLDSTEIN, SCOTUSBLOG.COM PUBLISHER: The justices are moving from the frying pan right into the fire. They are tackling some of the most difficult legal questions of the day. Across the board, probably the biggest term in at least a decade.
JOHNS: Cases involving the contentious issues of affirmative action, same sex marriage, vote rights and abortion are all likely to come up this term which kicks off Monday.
CARRIE SEVERINO, JUDICIAL CRISIS NETWORK: There are some very exciting cases already in the docket and there's a lot more in the pipeline the court will be making a decision on soon.
JOHNS: Another set of big decisions will bring even more scrutiny on the chief justice. Rumors surfaced that the health care ruling he authored caused a personal rift with fellow conservative colleagues including Justice Antonin Scalia, a claim Scalia denied to CNN's Piers Morgan.
JUSTICE ANTONIN SCALIA, SUPREME COURT: No. I haven't had a falling out with Justice Roberts.
PIERS MORGAN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Loud words exchanged? Slamming of doors?
SCALIA: No.
MORGAN: Nothing like that?
SCALIA: Nothing like that.
JOHNS: The other big question, will the chief justice take the court in an aggressive new direction? Liberals fear a more hard line dogmatic shift to the right.
ELIZABETH WYDRA, CONSTITUTIONAL ACCOUNTABILITY CENTER: A lot of progressives are concerned this might mean that Chief Justice Roberts has built up some capital, some good will and will now push the conservative agenda.
JOHNS: Tom Goldstein who has argued before the court thinks Roberts wants a more conservative court but that he'll do it gradually.
GOLDSTEIN: He's not trying to move the law radically quickly. I think Justice Scalia or Justice Thomas really want to get to the end answer as quickly as possible and make the law conform to what they really understand whereas the chief justice is more instrumental.
JOHNS: But conservative court watcher Carrie Severino doesn't believe much will change any time soon.
SEVERINO: Certainly, this is not a crusading conservative court. Until we have a shift I think in the members of the court, it's impossible to call it a court that leans more to the left or the right.
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JOHNS: For the opinions that could be close 5-4 decisions, attention will also be paid to Justice Anthony Kennedy, who's frequently the swing vote in some of the toughest cases. Deb and Victor.
FEYERICK: Joe Johns there for us, thanks. And we've got much more ahead this hour.
BLACKWELL: Here's what's coming up.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I can see in his face that there was a lot more to her story than even what she was willing to let on.
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FEYERICK: Women hold up half the sky, that's the message of a new documentary from "New York Times" columnist, Nick Cristof (ph). In an interview exclusive to CNN, he sits down with the celebrities from the film.
The man behind the anti anti-Islamic film blamed for violence in the Middle East is now behind bars but are the charges just a smoke screen? Our legal analyst explains.
Abortion, guns policy, the war on drugs, they're just some of the social issues shaping the presidential race. All morning we're putting them in focus.
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FEYERICK: We hear a lot of spin on the campaign trail when it comes to the big issues. So CNN is helping cut through the noise and figure out where each candidate stands.
This morning, we're sizing up how President Obama and Mitt Romney plan to tackle the challenges facing the country one issue at a time. We start this hour with the always controversial gun control. On one side, gun control is a threat to all law-abiding gun owners.
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FEYERICK (voice-over): On the other, gun control is the only way to stem gun violence and potentially prevent tragedies like this summer's Colorado move theater massacre or even this week's deadly Minneapolis business shooting. So where do the candidates stand when it comes to the Second Amendment? Both the president and Romney support it.
BARACK OBAMA, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: I believe in the Second Amendment. I believe in peoples' lawful right to bear arms.
FORMER GOV. MITT ROMNEY (R-MA), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I will protect the Second Amendment rights of American people.
FEYERICK: Both sides stick to language in the constitution with President Obama attempting to pacify critics from the National Rifle Association.
OBAMA: I will not take your shotgun away. I will not take your rifle away. I won't take your hand gun away.
FEYERICK: The fact he hasn't even tried, doesn't placate the NRA with continued unsubstantiated warnings that began back in 2008.
WAYNE LAPIERRE, NRA PRESIDENT: All that first term lip service to gun owners is just part of a massive Obama conspiracy to deceive voters and hide his true intentions to destroy the Second Amendment during his second term.
FEYERICK: Romney has been actively cultivating the NRA, speaking at this year's convention. It's a switch for the once tough on guns governor. Consider the assault weapons ban. President Obama is a yes but with an asterisk. Mr. Romney moves from a yes to a no. Here's why. In 2004, Governor Romney signed a permanent assault weapons ban in Massachusetts and now candidate Romney says he opposes any new laws.
ROMNEY: We need a president who will enforce current laws, not create new ones that only serve to burden lawful gun owners.
FEYERICK: After Aurora, Mr. Obama stressed the need for a ban on assault weapons. So that's a yes.
OBAMA: A lot of gun owners believe that AK-47s belong in the hands of soldiers, not in the hands of criminals.
FEYERICK: The reason Obama's yes has an asterisk is that in four years, no new gun control laws have been enacted. In fact under Obama's watch concealed weapons are now allowed on Amtrak trains and in national parks.
DAN GROSS, PRESIDENT, BRADY CAMPAIGN: He's continued to pay lip service to those things but he hasn't shown real leadership in pursuing those changes.
FEYERICK: Yes, background checks have gotten more thorough under Obama for people legally buying guns in gun shops. The big problem remains gun shows and the Internet, specifically unlicensed dealers selling firearms to buyers with no background check needed. President Obama has supported closing the gun show loophole in the past but the White House says his focus now is on existing laws. Governor Romney says no to any further regulation of gun shows.
ROMNEY: There's no particular change in law that's going to keep people who are intent on doing harm from doing harm.
OBAMA: The majority of gun owners would agree that we should do everything possible to prevent criminals and fugitives from purchasing weapons.
FEYERICK: So while President Obama says he wants tougher gun laws, little was done during his first term. Republican challenger Romney has done more in the past but now says it's enough. Both candidates apparently not so different now when it comes to gun control.
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FEYERICK: So that's gun laws. But we're not done. Make sure to stick around through the hour at 9:00 a.m. Eastern. We're checking out what each candidate thinks about drug laws.
BLACKWELL: Now we heard from Wayne Lapierre, the NRA right there that Obama not coming for your guns is part of the conspiracy of coming for your guns. Is there any evidence that if he were to be re-elected, that's going to happen?
FEYERICK: That is what is so fascinating. I've spoken with Wayne Lapierre and that's the whole thing, that they're going to take away your guns. They're going to take away your guns and the truth is President Obama is very vocal about supporting the Second Amendment. He knows that people feel strongly about it. He knows that in many parts of the country, guns are simply a part of life. There's been no evidence he's going to change it. When the NRA says he's going to change it, he's going to change it --
BLACKWELL: They're just pointing to the silence as he's not coming to get it yet (ph).
FEYERICK: Exactly.
BLACKWELL: I've been reading a lot about, there's this new organization, not really new but it's becoming stronger over the past couple of years, students for concealed carry on college campuses. After Virginia Tech, they wanted the right to be able to carry weapons.
I know that here in Atlanta some of the schools are active, some students are active in trying to get those. They just got a victory in Colorado being able to have guns there on campus. You can't take them to the football game or any of the ticketed events but that's something I'm sure as these candidates go to these college campuses they're going to hear a lot more about.
FEYERICK: They are going to have to adjust those questions. What's so fascinating, as I look into the gun debate more and more. I come from New York and so in New York, guns in certain parts of the city just aren't a way of life. But when you look at it, in other parts of the country you realize that people really feel that the only way to protect yourself, defend yourself is to carry a firearm, is to carry a firearm. They'll tell you it's not a weapon unless you use it to shoot somebody. It is a firearm that you're using to protect and defend yourself. It's a very different way of looking at it.
The college campus issue is going to be very interesting because now they're talking about potentially separate dorms, how do you separate. Again, if you put all the people with -- all the students with firearms in one dorm, who's to say the dorm without the guns isn't going to be the one that gets attacked. We still have a ways to go.
BLACKWELL: We will certainly continue to talk about that.
Let's go overseas now. One man is offering $64 million U.S. to the man who can win over his daughter's heart. But there's a twist. Some say she's already married.
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FEYERICK: And looking at some international news now, Czech President Vaclav Klaus is recovering from a bizarre attack. It happened while he was inaugurating a new bridge. Look at that circle. As he was walking through the crowd, a man armed with a replica gun fired plastic pellets at him. The Czech leader was taken to the hospital with bruises, but no serious injuries. The suspect is in custody.
BLACKWELL: Pope Benedict's former butler is accused of violating on of the ten commandments, thou shalt not steal. He's on trial at the Vatican for allegedly leaking hundreds of secret pages of papal correspondence to an Italian journalist. If he's convicted, he could face up to eight years in prison. He's pleaded not guilty. A Vatican computer technician is also on trial. FEYERICK: Some fishermen are lucky to be alive after their boat capsized all it was all caught on tape. Look at those waves. This was a dramatic rescue, a ferocious tropical storm overturned their shrimping vessel off Mexico's coast. Eight fishermen got tossed into the rough waters. They were hauled to safety. Several did suffer some bruises and one had to be treated for inhaling too much water but they are all expected to be OK.
BLACKWELL: A crazy talker story you're going to be talking about this weekend. It's making news around the world and some eager suitors are already lining up.
FEYERICK: A Hong Kong tycoon is offering $64 million to any man who can win his daughter's hand. Here's the catch. She reportedly already has a girlfriend. CNN's Pauline Chou (ph) sat down with the tycoon who is so determined to find a male match for his daughter.
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PAULINE CHOU, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over) In his opulent 16,000 square foot mansion, real estate tycoon, Cecil Chao enjoys the beautiful artwork, the serenity of an indoor waterfall and an ocean view but one of Hong Kong's richest men is unsettled by a simple desire, finding the right person for his only daughter.
CECIL CHAO, HONG KONG BILLIONAIRE: Gigi is a nice girl, very loving daughter and deserve a good life and she should have as wide choice as possible.
CHOU: Sounds simple enough for 33-year-old Gigi Chao, who's executive director of her father's real estate empire. But various media outlets have reported that Gigi is already married to her long-time female companion. Her father says those reports are false and have ruined her chances of finding a man. So he's offering an incentive, $64 million to any man who can win over his daughter. Aren't you worried about the types of people who will apply? They're just after the money, don't you think?
CHAO: I not going to worry these things until Gigi have found somebody who loves her. If somebody loves her just for her money, she is old enough to find out herself and I will advise her.
CHOU: More than a thousand offers have come in. Gigi Chao says she finds her father's offer entertaining.
GIGI CHAO, DAUGHTER OF CECIL CHAO: I wasn't angry at all. I was moved by daddy's announcement. I mean, it's really his way of saying, baby girl, I love you and you deserve more.
CHOU: CNN asked her about media reports of her marriage to a long-time female partner. She says she's not in a position to verify this. Cecil Chao says he's open minded when it comes to issues of sexuality but he has his concerns.
C. CHAO: If she is not gay, she should straighten out, not let the people misled. CHOU: But if she is gay, are you OK with that?
C. CHAO: That is for her to decide what she wants to be.
CHOU: Both father and daughter say the publicity has been overwhelming. On her Facebook page, Gigi Chao says for the sake of her family's sanity, she hopes her father retracts his offer. But money talks and interested suitors continue clogging up the office faxes and e-mails. Pauline Chou, CNN, Hong Kong.
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BLACKWELL: May I say first, agree with him or do not but that man can pick some glasses, can't he with the gold on the front, stylish.
FEYERICK: He can also set a very attractive dollar amount. The tycoon is making the $64 million offer he himself never been married.
BLACKWELL: Come on.
FEYERICK: Not married, but the "South China Morning Post" reports that he has boasted of having 10,000 girlfriends. He's also offering to help his future son-in-law, should there be a future son-in-law establish a new business.
BLACKWELL: It's interesting that she says, I wasn't offended by it that my father is trying to buy me a husband. I was moved that he cared so much.
FEYERICK: Yes.
BLACKWELL: So then this guy comes along and says, hey, I'll marry her. Do you really want to marry the guy who just got in line for the cash?
FEYERICK: Probably not. My guess is it it's going to be more than just her charm that is attracting him.
BLACKWELL: That's true. Nice glasses, though.
The man responsible for the anti-Islam film that sparked protests across the Middle East is arrested.
FEYERICK: Officers say it's a probation violation. But could it be a way to protect him? Our legal expert Paul Callen (ph) sorts out the details next.
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FEYERICK: Bottom of the hour now, welcome back, everyone. I'm Deborah Fereyick in for Randi Kaye.
BLACKWELL: I'm Victor Blackwell. Thanks for starting your morning with us.
FEYERICK: Well we are just 38 days from Election Day now and the candidates are focusing on two things, the debate and the swing states. And one of those states is New Hampshire that's where we find our political editor Paul Steinhauser.
And Paul, where do things stand right now in New Hampshire because it is critical?
PAUL STEINHAUSER, CNN POLITICAL EDITOR: It is a very important state. And everybody knows New Hampshire is the first in the nation primary but it's also a battleground state with four electoral votes up for grabs. And while Mitt Romney is back in Massachusetts and they are getting ready for the debate, his wing man, I guess you can call him, his running mate Paul Ryan the Congressman from Wisconsin is going to be right behind me here. We are in Terry (ph) New Hampshire and he's just got an even here in about an hour from now, a little less.
And then later today, he goes out to Ohio as well so a full day on the trail for -- for Ryan. But this is going to be busy here today because not only is Ryan having this rally here Deb, there's also going to be a state party convention on the Republican side.
And remember the Democrats are campaigning here too. Guess who's going to be here Wednesday? Bill Clinton, the former President stumping for Barack Obama.
You ask about what the polls look like. Take a look at this, this is the most recent. It came out yesterday. This is from American Research Group. And you can see the President with a five-point advantage here in the state that's within that survey sampling error. Another poll earlier in the week had a slightly larger advantage for the president. But it's competitive here in New Hampshire -- Deb.
FEYERICK: You know, the debates are so critical. And it's hard to say whether these debates are more important than other debates that we've heard. But -- but what are the candidates doing and what are they going to have to accomplish in terms of really sort of hitting home their major points?
STEINHAUSER: Yes exactly. So much on the line on Wednesday night when President Obama and Mitt Romney show down for the first time in Denver, Colorado.
What are they doing today? Romney is back in Massachusetts preparing and the President in Washington, D.C. as well. Both I would assume are doing debates preps right now with their stand-ins I guess you could call them.
On the Republican side, Senator Rob Portman of Ohio he is playing President Obama in these mock debates with Mitt Romney. He's done it before for past Republican presidential nominees. And on the Democratic side well, guess what they go back to Massachusetts. Who better than a Massachusetts politician to play Mitt Romney and that person is Senator John Kerry, the senior senator from Massachusetts -- Deb.
FEYERICK: It is so fascinating to me. And I think that a lot of people around this country are going to be fixated on watching the debates, watching both sides really define where they stand and how they differentiate one from another; plus just the interaction. I -- I -- I'm ok, fine, I'm very excited for these debates.
All right, CNN political editor, Paul Steinhauser thanks. And remember you can see the first presidential debate right here on CNN it is going to be Wednesday. You do not want to miss it 7:00 p.m. Eastern.
VICTOR BLACKWELL, CNN ANCHOR: We will be watching.
A man who spent 15 years on death row for a crime he did not commit has been released from a Louisiana prison. Lawyers say Damon Thibodeaux is the 300th DNA exoneration in the U.S. He was convicted of raping and murdering his step cousin after he gave a confession which turned out to be false. He talked to the press about his new freedom.
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DAMON A. THIBODEAUX, CONVICTED AFTER 15 YEARS IN PRISON: It's a surreal walk. It's -- it's not something you can prepare yourself for because you've been living in those conditions for so long.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: How do you feel now?
THIBODEAUX: Free. Real free.
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BLACKWELL: Attorneys say the case shows a need for police to videotape all interrogations in case of false confession.
And in Philadelphia, a judge has issued a stay on the execution of Terrence Williams. She also granted him a new penalty phase in his 1984 murder case. The judge says his verdict may have been different had the jury heard evidence that the man he killed sexually abused him.
And the man believed to be behind the anti-Islam film that ignited so much violence and bloodshed around the world is now behind bars. But for a different reason than you might think. Nakoula Basseley Nakoula has been arrested for violating his probation by uploading the controversial video to YouTube.
You see, because of a 2010 bank fraud conviction, Nakoula has not been allowed to access computers or the Internet without an approval from his probation officer.
CNN legal contributor and former prosecutor Paul Callan is here with a closer look. Paul, the judge even denied Nakoula bail. I mean is this just a smoke screen for the video having nothing really to do with the probation?
PAUL CALLAN, CNN LEGAL CONTRIBUTOR: Well a lot of people might think that. Obviously this is one of the most controversial films that's ever been posted on YouTube in terms of the reaction of the worldwide Muslim population. So for the U.S. government to go after the guy and put him in jail, you might think that. But on the other hand, he was convicted of a federal fraud, very, very serious crime. He served a year in prison. And the fraud by the way involved him using phony names, 15 phony credit cards. He owes $700,000 in restitution on that charge. And now they find out he's using phony names again. He's changing his residence. He's doing a lot of things that you're not supposed to do when you're on probation and parole.
So I don't think it's a smoke screen. I think there are legitimate grounds for him to be put in prison pending his hearing.
BLACKWELL: Let's go through some of his -- this rap sheet. 1997 he spent a year in prison for intent to manufacture meth. In 2010 convicted of credit card fraud and identity theft, spent a year in federal prison and has been on probation since then. His lawyers say that he should not be jailed because he could be attacked or in danger because of the Muslim prisoners. Does he have a case?
CALLAN: I don't think he's got a legitimate argument there. And you know he walks into federal court the other day, appears in front of a federal judge and one of the things he's charged with is using phony names. Well, you know what he did in front of the federal judge? He gave the wrong name and the judge had to correct him and then he gave his proper name. Then the attorney gets up and says you can't put him in, Muslim prisoners might attack him.
Not a legitimate argument. These are federal prisons. They are protective custody areas. In a lot of respects I think he'll probably be safer in a federal prison than he probably is on the streets. So I don't think that's a legitimate argument.
BLACKWELL: Ok, let's talk now aside from the probation the crime. If it is a crime under hate crime legislation, this video, putting it out, is there a possibility he could be prosecuted as part of that?
CALLAN: I don't think so. And a lot of people raise this issue, I mean, when you think about it there are over a billion Muslims worldwide; 23 percent of the world population I think ascribes to the Muslim faith. So is this a hate crime by attacking Muhammad in this film? It would not fit under U.S. law. We have very, very strict laws protecting our free speech rights in the United States and making a controversial film even if it attacks a certain ethnic group or religion does not fit any hate crime in the United States. He can't be prosecuted under existing U.S. laws.
BLACKWELL: And let's go to free speech. The President talked about it today -- this week at the U.N. General Assembly. You just brought it up but there are laws against someone running into a theater and yelling fire, to incite something. This man had to have known that if you put out this type of video that that would incite a melee, attacks, something. Could it be attacked under -- under that provision?
CALLAN: Well you raise a good point. It goes -- you know it goes to that point directly. I'm sure when he made the film, he was trying to be provocative and he was trying to anger those over one billion Muslims worldwide. However, yelling fire in a theater, that's a crime but that's not an expression of a political view or of an art form.
On the other hand, making this vicious film, which is an attack on a religion, is a form of artistic expression. Now we may hate it, we may disagree with it. But what makes us Americans under the First Amendment, we can express ourselves in any way that we want in this country as long as it's political, artistic and it's a legitimate form of expression.
So it's not prosecutable in the United States. And I think the rest of the world has a hard time understanding this, but we protect even speech we hate in the United States. We let Nazis demonstrate. We let the Ku Klux Klan exist and demonstrate.
BLACKWELL: Yes.
CALLAN: And it's just part of freedom of speech in America.
BLACKWELL: All right, Paul Callan; more legal conversation to have about this one. Thank you.
CALLAN: Ok nice being with you Victor.
BLACKWELL: Deb.
FEYERICK: Well grasping the everyday struggles that face women in developing countries.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Every person, every corner of this world needs to raise a voice and say this has to stop.
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FEYERICK: Activists in a new documentary called "Half the Sky," a CNN exclusive with columnist Nick Kristof and "Ugly Betty's" America Ferrera. That's coming up next.
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FEYERICK: Now, a CNN Special Report from Kenya to Vietnam to India. Celebrity activists are giving us a glimpse into how women worldwide are overcoming obstacles and changing their lives for the better. The acclaimed book "Half the Sky" by "New York Times" columnist Nicholas Kristof and his wife Sheryl WuDunn has inspired a new documentary and it profiles Kristof and celebrity activists as they travel to different parts of the globe.
Exclusively for CNN Kristof, sat down with Olivia Wild, Meg Ryan, Gabriel Union and America Ferrera to find out what they learned about the women holding up "Half the Sky". He explains why this project is just so critical.
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NICHOLAS KRISTOF, AUTHOR, "HALF THE SKY": We're going to be going on a journey to some of the places in the world where the repression of women and girls is truly at its most extreme. We'll be traveling to six different countries and we've invited six American actresses to join us.
We're going to meet some people who have so impressed us with the work they're doing to build a better Sierra Leone, a better Cambodia, a better Vietnam. We're working on issues like sex trafficking, violence against women and also solutions such as getting more girls into school and keeping them there.
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FEYERICK: Well America Ferrera went into the slums of India where she met a 10-year-old girl desperately hoping her future is a school, not a brothel.
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AMERICA FERRERA, ACTRESS/ACTIVIST: I always wanted to go to India, like you said, imagining it as some sort of wonderful tour through the countryside of India, going to Ashram there, seeing, you know beautiful sights. And -- and of course, this trip was very different than that.
So are we in the red-light district?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: In the red-light district already.
FERRERA: Yes. So not in this lane?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: This lane, too.
FERRERA: This lane, too?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: All the rooms on -- on both sides are dwellings of the women.
FERRERA: Of prostitutes?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes.
FERRERA: And this is where they take their customers?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes.
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FERRERA: I was a little nervous when I heard the topic we'd be looking at -- intergenerational prostitution. What I didn't expect was to fall so deeply in love with these beautiful girls that we got to spend our time with.
KRISTOF: And in Calcutta, you developed a tight bond with a 10-year- old girl named Moneisha. And her own family was planning to send Moneisha at the age of 10, back to a village and presumably on to a brothel. FERRERA: Moneisha's fate is determined by her parents at the end of the day. That was a realization that was hard to kind of swallow, which was really? There's nothing we can do to keep her from going down that path?
KRISTOF: Do you find yourself walking down the street and thinking about Moneisha?
FERRERA: Stay safe, ok?
You know, I feel like I struggled a lot with leaving India because I didn't want to lose the passion that I felt, you know. I didn't want to feel, you know, everything that I was feeling and all the hope and all the potential of being a part of the change and then coming home and going back into my life and getting caught up in me and forgetting about what I saw.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: No child, no woman, no human being should be selling their bodies for survival. It's a shame on our civil society if we allow to do that. Every person, every corner of this world needs to raise a voice and say this has to stop.
FERRERA: I'd hope for people to see that this is not a documentary about the problems; it's a documentary about the solutions. That telling these very specific stories is going to give the audience a sense of empowerment and then hopefully more than not will choose to do something about it.
Bye.
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FEYERICK: Well, in our 10:00 hour, we're going to be hearing from Meg Ryan. And she tells us that her visit to Cambodia and a 14-year-old girl who lost her eye to abuse but not her smile. "Half the Sky: Turning Oppression into Opportunity for Women Worldwide"; it airs on PBS Monday and Tuesday.
BLACKWELL: Police in Michigan descend on a storage shed to find out if Jimmy Hoffa has been buried underneath all these years. Now after results are sent to a local lab, hear why some experts say there's no way it's him.
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FEYERICK: Well, the mysterious disappearance of Teamster boss Jimmy Hoffa once again has captivated the nation.
BLACKWELL: But experts are not so sure that the former Teamster's boss -- Teamster boss, rather, is underneath a storage shed in Suburban Detroit. Here's our national correspondent Susan Candiotti with more.
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SUSAN CANDIOTTI, CNN NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Could these carefully wrapped tubes of soil carried out among a sea of cameras possibly hold the remains of Jimmy Hoffa?
CHIEF JAMES BERLIN, ROSEVILLE, MICHIGAN: This is kind of like an open wound that just keeps -- won't go away.
CANDIOTTI: A wound that just might be partially closed Monday when lab results put to rest whether these are human remains, let alone Hoffa's.
BERLIN: Stranger things have happened, so it's possible.
CANDIOTTI: Possible maybe but not probable. The dig inside a shed came after a witness recently told police he saw a body buried there about the same time Jimmy Hoffa disappeared in 1975.
But the police chief says the timeline doesn't add up. In part he says an alleged book-making operation at the house didn't happen until years later.
BERLIN: I don't think it's Mr. Hoffa.
CANDIOTTI: Neither does retired FBI agent John Anthony who worked the Hoffa case. He gives the tip zero credibility.
JOHN ANTHONY, RETIRED FBI AGENT: Whether they find a body or not, I don't know. I doubt that. But if they do, I guarantee you it is not Jimmy Hoffa.
CANDIOTTI: Anthony says the FBI has a good idea who pulled off the hit and where but it sure wasn't in this neighborhood.
(on camera): Why could the FBI never find the body?
ANTHONY: Because there is no body. The body in our opinion was cremated or was thrown into a vat of acid or whatever.
CANDIOTTI (voice-over): Whatever happened the mafia-backed Teamster boss is legendary, celebrated in movies like this one going up against U.S. Attorney General Robert Kennedy.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The Justice Department has plenty on you Mr. Hoffa.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You don't impress me. I don't need $300 million and my brother elected president is going to whop your (EXPLETIVE DELETED).
CANDIOTTI: Over the years' many failed attempt to find him, tips had him buried in cement near the end zone of old Giants' Stadium. They looked for bloodstains on the floorboards of a Detroit home and dug up a horse farm in 2006 -- all dead ends.
Hoffa's middle name was Riddle and so is trying to pinpoint why his fate still captivates so many people.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He was a gifted individual. He was powerful. He was a negotiator. Combine that with his mysterious disappearance and the connection with the underworld and the mob. CANDIOTTI (on camera): So now, the question is will police crack this case or will it remain an unsolved mystery?
Susan Candiotti, CNN, Roseville, Michigan.
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FEYERICK: Well, the man known as the Terminator, the Governator, Arnold Schwarzenegger opens about -- opens up about his affair and ultimate betrayal to Maria Shriver.
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BLACKWELL: A few pieces of Americana hit the auction block tomorrow and that has is a lot of appeal. People are excited about the guns and photos belonging to gangster lovebirds, Bonnie and Clyde. They're up for sale including a Colt-38 detective special Bonnie carried the day she died in a police shootout -- there it is. R&R Auction which is hosting the sale estimate the guns could go for as high as $150,000.
FEYERICK: Yes. That's pretty cool.
All right. Well, Victoria's Secret is opening its first pink store in a very unlikely place. Right inside Cowboys' Stadium in Dallas this Monday night. That is right. The lingerie chain will be selling its new NFL collection that includes football themed tees, sweats, hoodies and tanks. And good news, guys, Victoria's Secret models will be on hand at the game for the grand opening.
BLACKWELL: Arnold Schwarzenegger is out with a new autobiography. In it the former governor reveals details about the affair with his family housekeeper which led to the end of his 25-year marriage with Maria Shriver.
Schwarzenegger talks about his infidelities in an interview with "60 Minutes". It will air tomorrow night.
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ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER, FORMER GOVERNOR, CALIFORNIA: I think it was the stupidest thing I've done in the whole relationship. It was terrible. I inflicted tremendous pain on Maria and unbelievable pain on the kids.
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BLACKWELL: "Total Recall: My unbelievably true life story" hits shelves this Monday.
FEYERICK: That's a tricky one.
BLACKWELL: Yes. It is a tricky one. And here's the reason. Because the affair is bad enough, right, but then when you find out the mistress has been living with our family the whole time.
FEYERICK: Right. And that she gave birth pretty soon after Maria Shriver gave birth to her son.
BLACKWELL: And he's been to the home and here we are all together and she has no idea.
FEYERICK: Yes. I'm not sure stupid covers it.
BLACKWELL: Well, listen, when you think about the early part of life, the energy it takes to be a body-builder and then learn the language and then be a movie star and then become a governor, there are some amazing parts of this story.
FEYERICK: Yes, absolutely. Of course, of course. And it's probably a very fascinating read, if nothing else.
BLACKWELL: Yes. It will be.
All right. This morning we are going in-depth on social issues in this presidential campaign.
FEYERICK: One topic, the war on drugs -- where the candidates stand and whether the billions of dollars being spent on protection and prevention will actually stay in the budget.
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FEYERICK: Undecided voters, the focus of both the Romney and Obama campaigns. Here's "Saturday Night Live's" take on the undecided.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Before you get our vote, you are going to have to answer some questions. Questions like --
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: When is the election? How soon do we have to decide?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: What are the names of the two people running? And be specific.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Who is the president right now? Is he or she running? Because, if so, experience is maybe something we should consider.
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FEYERICK: You know, it's always so good to see how they sort of take what is something so obvious and make it even more obvious.
BLACKWELL: Yes. I mean this, to me is -- I've been thinking but maybe because we are just involved in it. Who are the people who at this point are still asking all these questions?
FEYERICK: Right. It's like when is the election?
BLACKWELL: Yes.
FEYERICK: Well, maybe they will turn up and maybe they won't. Who knows? People need deadlines sometimes.
BLACKWELL: And we got a lot more coming up.