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Sinkhole Wrecks Florida Home; Sequester Cuts Set to Take Effect; Jodi Arias Cross-Examined on Stand; CNN Hero Brings Electricity to African Hospitals; Hockey Players Survives Cancer
Aired March 02, 2013 - 10:00 ET
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BRIANNA KEILAR, CNN ANCHOR: From CNN world headquarters in Atlanta, this is CNN SATURDAY MORNING.
BARACK OBAMA, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: We're shouldn't be making a series of dumb, arbitrary cuts to things that businesses depend on.
KEILAR: But apparently we did. While you can sleeping the clock struck midnight, and $85 billion have all but vanished.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Were you crying for shooting him?
KEILAR: A brutal cross-examination of a suspected killer, but were the tear it's genuine or all part of the act?
And why did Rory McIlroy storm off the course? Could it be a tantrum directed at a major sponsor?
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KEILAR: Good morning, everyone. I'm Brianna Keilar in for Randi Kaye. It's 10:00 on the east coast, 7:00 on the west. We're glad you're with us this morning.
Crews are back on the scene of a sinkhole in Florida, trying to recover the body of Jeff Bush. Late Thursday night his family heard a deafening noise, and then the unbelievable happened. The earth below one of the bedrooms collapsed swallowing it.
John Zarrella is live in Florida for us. And John, authorities said this isn't a typical sinkhole because it is huge. How, then, are they approaching this recovery?
JOHN ZARRELLA, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Yes, that's exactly right, Brianna. The concern is that the sinkhole is growing from news conferences they've had. They're doing a lot of are ground testing. They continue to do ground testing. In fact, they've moved us back even further now because the plan is for them to go ahead and test the ground on this side of the street as well.
They do not know the scope of the sinkhole exactly how wide it is. They know it's about 30 feet deep and continuing to deepen but don't movie how far out it may spread. So they need a baseline sample where the ground finally becomes sturdy. That's the problem. They haven't been in the house since the incident took place a couple of nights ago now, because it is just so unstable. So they are trying to figure the best way to approach the situation.
Now, you know, they evacuated the house to the right. They evacuated the house to the left of the blue house where the sinkhole opened up and families were pulling out belongings yesterday, taking those things out as well to try and at least collect as much as they could particular their homes when they were ordered to get out.
And you know, we also saw this morning just a few minutes ago Jeremy Bush, the brother of Jeff Bush who died. Jeremy came over and he was carrying flowers with him. He laid those flowers down just across the street as close as he could get here to his house, and he knelt down and appeared to be saying, you know, at least a short prayer for his brother, and he was in tears once again as he was emotion and repeatedly so yesterday.
The incident, when it occurred, Jeremy tried to rush in. He got shovels, tried to find his brother, dig his brother out of there. The first responder on the scene was a deputy sheriff, Doug Duvall. And Doug talked last night about his experience when he got into the house.
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DEPUTY DOUGLAS DUVALL, HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE: I entered. I went into the hallway, and when I turned into the bedroom, the only thing I saw was a hole. And the hole took the entire bedroom. I looked down and I saw Mr. Bush, Jeremy Bush, in the hole, and was on the sides trying to get out. The deepest part of the hole, you could see the bed frame, dresser, everything was sinking.
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ZARRELLA: So Brianna, the first order of the business, the most important order of business, figure out now how much will be affected besides that house? How far does this sinkhole have a potential to expand before they get to a safe zone where the ground is sturdy enough to operate. That's what they're trying to do. And because this is a recovery operation and they just simply do not want to risk anyone else's life should there be another sudden collapse of the ground around that house or underneath that house. Brianna?
KEILAR: John Zarrella for us in Florida. We know you'll keep an eye on that. Thanks.
Now to Washington where overnight $85 billion in federal funding was slashed from the budget affecting everything from education to the FBI to food safety, even national parks. The president signed this order after lawmakers failed to work out a deal, and CNN's national political correspondent Jim Acosta is at the White House. I mean, Jim, the fight over this isn't over. This is something we're going to deal with in the coming weeks. JIM ACOSTA, CNN NATIONAL POLITICAL CORRESPONDENT: That's right. You've heard the term manufactured prices. The president complained about this yesterday saying that we go from one manufactured price to another. There's another one coming up at the end of March when the government runs out of money. The so-called continuing resolution expires then, and that is basically a temporary spending measure that keeps all of the functions of the government running. That runs out of money at the end of the month.
And you're right, Brianna, this did go into effect last night. The president issued the order around 8:30 p.m. This is it right here. And in addition to that the White House would release add letter from the office of management and budget that went to the capitol to members of Congress last night detailing line by line where all of these cuts are going to start going into effect. We're talking about $289 million at the CDC, the Centers for Disease Control, nearly $1 billion for FEMA disaster relief. If you're at the airport right now watching what we're talking about right now, hundreds of millions of dollars are going to be cut from the TSA, the security screeners that greet you at the security lines when you go into the airport, hundreds of millions of dollars more from the people who run the air traffic control towers that guide the aircraft in and out of our airports across the country.
This is why the president in his weekly address would like to work out a deal with Congress to avoid these cuts. But in their own Republican weekly address, a top Republican in the house, Cathy McMorris Rodgers, says that any deal that includes new tax revenues is a non-starter. Here's what she had to say --
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REP. CATHY MCMORRIS RODGERS, (R) WASHINGTON: The American people know full well that if they give this White House more tax revenue, it will be spent on new stimulus projects and government programs. The president must stop using this debate as an excuse to raise taxes and start seizing this opportunity to cut spending.
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ACOSTA: Now, the Congress will be back here next week, and I suppose you could take from that there might still be some negotiations going on between the president and Congressional leaders. But at this point, you cover this beat. There isn't much hope. They're pretty dug in.
KEILAR: Very dug in. And I do want to talk to you about what I think was kind of the water cooler moment yesterday there in the briefing room when President Obama came in. He doesn't often talk about sci-fi. He talked about a Jedi mind meld kind of mixing his sci-fi phrasing. What was that about and who's kind of ticked off about it?
ACOSTA: Yes. You know, I think he's been called kind of a Trekkie. He's been compared to Mr. Spock, cerebral in many ways and used this reference yesterday. He was asked by our Jessica Yellin, why don't you lock the Congressional leaders in a room? He said you can't put a mind meld on Congress. And of course the Trekkies caught op, saying wait, that's a combination of the Jedi mind trick and a Vulcan mind meld. You just don't do that. So of course it blew up on twitter. People were tweeting like, "Beam me up Yoda," their own mixed movie references. I won't take credit is for this, somebody tweeted that the president make a "Wookie mistake," not a rookie mistake, a "Wookie mistake" in reference to Chewbacca. I should apologize for that.
KEILAR: I like it. I also like how serious people take this. Earlier you said Mr. Spock and people blew you up on Twitter for not calling him Dr. Spock. It was hilarious and goes to show how serious people treat this.
ACOSTA: The White House put up a tweet showing this picture of the president saying "These cuts aren't the solutions Americans are looking for." So they're trying to have fun with it, too. It's sort of like Marco Rubio with the water bottle. When you have a gaffe, have fun with it.
KEILAR: Jim Acosta, thank you for that.
These cuts are so complicated there's a lot of viewers are writing in with questions. Our Tom Foreman is in Washington with answers. What are people asking you, Tom?
TOM FOREMAN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: They're asking about everything, Brianne. The simple truth is this is very complicated. For those who cover it. A tweet, "How many jobs will be lost due to the forced spending cuts?" That's a big concern. Not only jobs not good in the country but adding more tore it. It's all guesswork at this point. The Congressional budget office thinks about 750,000 jobs over a period of months.
Here's a point of reference. In January added 157,000 jobs. So about four times that many in the other direction but spread out over a little time.
And some other related questions on twitter. "Why will so many people lose their jobs," "What types of jobs will be lost?" This is straight cause and effect in terms of government workers. If a department has less money for salaries and can't reduce pay levels, and often it can't because of labor agreements, cutting jobs may be the only recourse. But jobs are certain to be lost beyond the government as well. A tweet from the Char, "My husband lost his job today due to anticipated budget cuts indirectly tied to the Navy. Did other company doss this today?"
Well, you know, we don't really know what all is going on in the private sector at this point. We will know as it all comes clicking through, but I think it's probably a safe bet, yes, some companies are proactively getting rid of jobs now because they count on the government for spending and they may not be able to count on that business in the near future. So they're just trying to protect themselves. Nonetheless, how it's going to ripple out and affect a lot of jobs.
So basic question, what kind of jobs are affected? Government jobs and jobs that are tied to government contracts. But then beyond it, it goes further. And Lauren asked a question from a lot of people, on CNNpolitics.com, "Besides not voting for Congress members when they're up for rear election, is there any other way we can hold them and the president accountable for not doing their job in passing a budget?" I'm sorry to tell you, no. The answer is not really. You can donate to their opponents, protest or call their offices. That can have some effect. But elections are the primary tool to punish leaders who don't lead, and both do a good job of steering away from controversial matters like this when an election is rolling around.
So that said, stick up a note for the mid-term elections next year to remind yourself how you feel about things it now no matter which party you blame more so the parties just don't skirt around it when voting comes up.
KEILAR: That's what happens. You have a different emotion come election time. Tom Foreman, I should highlight, people can tweet you more questions @TomForemanCNN/asktomCNN. Tom, thanks for that.
FOREMAN: All right, jump in there. We want to hear from you.
KEILAR: Venezuelan president Hugo Chavez is said to be fighting for his life. He's back in his country undergoing cancer treatment according to his vice president who spoke to his supporters on Friday night.
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NICOLAS MADURO, VENEZUELAN VICE PRESIDENT (via translator): President Hugo Chavez is in good spirits but fighting for his life. We have to let him rest.
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KEILAR: Chavez had been in Cuba where he underwent his fourth cancer surgery. No word what type of cancer he's battling. Last night Chavez's supporters attended a mass in the chapel of the military hospital where he's receiving treatment.
New Jersey governor Chris Christie was once the rising Republican star. Not he seems to be getting the cold shoulder. Christie was not invited to the conservative political action conference set for later this month. The powerful group's leader says it's because Christie back a temporary expansion of Medicaid in his state and the $60 billion hurricane Sandy relief bill. Republican Congressman Peter King says the group is ignoring Christie's record.
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REP. PETER KING, (R) NEW YORK: That's a suicidal death wish. CPAC to me loses all credibility. You have a governor who's conservative, balanced the budget, taken on public employee unions, prolife, and yet he has a 74 percent favorable rating in a Democratic blue state. Chris Christie is doing the job, but they say because he fought for the aid for New Jersey, which he was entitled to do, the same aid every state has always gotten, he won't be accepted. To me that writes of CPAC as a serious force.
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KEILAR: Christie seems unfazed. "I wish them all the best. They don't want to invite me. That's their call. It's their organization and their business, and they get to decide who they want to have come and not come."
A sinkhole opens under a house in Florida and the man living in the house vanishing. But how have something like this happen? And can you predict when a sinkhole will strike? We'll get you some answers.
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KEILAR: We've been telling you about a terrible story that unfolded for one Florida family where a sinkhole opened up beneath Jeff Bush's bedroom swallowing him alive. Bush's panicked screams on Friday were the last anyone heard from him and he's now presumed dead. Officials say the hole under the house is as wide as 30 feet across, and it's expanding, taking the house with it as it opens up. Nick Valencia has been following story closely for us. First, just explain what a sinkhole is.
NICK VALENCIA, CNN CORRESPONDENT: We're talking about nightmare, Brianna. Usually it is a naturally occurring event, but sometimes it can be cause by other factors, things like construction, vibrations from new construction. What usually happens is heavy rain water sits on top of the sand and clay. If you factor in the landscape of Florida, porous limestone, perk late percolates into the ground creating caves and those caves can be formed by drought and later punctuated by heavy rain. Factor in the acidity in rain that leads to an easy access for that rain to go down and create these caves. And out of nowhere, the scariest part, probably the scariest part of all, you can't predict sinkholes. They happen out of nowhere. That's essentially what happened to Jeff Bush.
KEILAR: And we've heard of them in Florida before this obviously was a particularly sort of amazing set of circumstances. But is this a state that is more prone to them than other states?
VALENCIA: I think you're spot-on in saying that. It's so prone to sinkholes the Florida department of state create add map, we've take an screen grab of the website dedicated to sinkholes. Look at -- bring the camera here. If you look at all these freckles up and down Florida's coast in the Hillsborough County area where that sinkhole happened Thursday night into Friday morning, very susceptible. This area here where I'm pointing at, that region according to the Florida department of state is where abruptly forming collapsed sinkholes dominate.
Now, probably one of the scariest sinkholes in recent memory back in 1981. Bring up that first graphic we had up initially. Check this photo out, Brianna. This is a sinkhole back in center park, Florida. It took along with it this big car, portions of businesses, a swimming pool. Like I mentioned earlier, this just happens out of nowhere, so it's just a really nightmarish-type scenario for anyone caught up in one.
KEILAR: Nick, thank you.
Some environmentalists are outraged following a State Department report on a controversial Keystone XL pipeline. It said the pipeline would not have a significant impact on the environment. Remember this is a pipeline that would were run through the heartland of the U.S. from Canada's oil sands to the gulf coast. It could carry 830,000 barrels of oil a day. The new report sets the stage for President Obama to decide how to proceed here, and supporters of the pipeline say it will create 5,000 jobs and could reduce reliance on imports from other countries.
Golfing phenom Rory McIlroy calls it quits, walks off the course right in the middle of a tournament. We'll tell you what was behind his decision.
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KEILAR: Rory McIlroy, the top-ranked golfer in the world, walked off the course after a dismal start in the Honda classic. His excuse, a toothache. McIlroy first told reporters he was in a bad lace mentally but later released a statement and a tweet citing wisdom tooth pain as his reason for quitting. He said "Apologies to all at the Honda. A tough day by a toothache, was desperate to defend title but couldn't play on. Gutted."
And an angry backlash from editor of Bloomberg's "Business Week" after the cover of Monday's issue triggered an angry backlash from readers. It was supposed to warn everyone a rebound in the housing market could lead to reckless lending practices again. But the cover illustration featured exaggerated caricatures of minorities holding fistfuls of cash and many people found it offensive. The editor of "Business Week" says "Our cover illustration last week got strong reactions which we regret. Our intension was not to incite or defend. If we had 20 to do it over again we'd do it differently."
This week's CNN hero spent 13 years delivering babies before a back injury forced her to stop. Now she has a new way to bring babies and mothers safely through childbirth calling in the solar suitcase. Meet Dr. Laura Stachal.
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DR. LAURA STACHAL, CNN HERO: There's a traditional African saying when you become pregnant that you have one foot in the grave. There are so many women dying in childbirth in many communities, pregnancy is feared.
In the last month, reported four women actually died with pregnancy complications.
When I went to Africa I saw these women one after another coming in with complications and we didn't even have adequate light to treat them.
Welcome to the world, little one. A lot of the clinics don't have electricity. Midwives use kerosene lanterns, they may use candles. They use cell phones to deliver babies. Once I witnessed the things I saw I had to do something about it.
My name is Dr. Laura Stachal. I'm helping to provide a simple and reliable solar lighting and power source so that mothers and babies can be saved during childbirth.
Hospitals and clinics receive the solar for free. The charge is very important. Solar suitcase provides medical quality lighting, charges cell phones, has a small battery charger for head lamps and for the fetal Doppler that we include.
Perfect. That's it.
Mothers are now eager to come to the clinics. It's just shifted them around with a health care worker.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: This light is going to bring good changes. It keeps me going.
STACHAL: Turn this on. There you go.
I really want a world where women and their families get to celebrate birth, and I would love to be part of making that happen.
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KEILAR: Take a look at this. Jodi Arias re-enacts how she says her boyfriend Travis Alexander attacked her moments before she killed him in what she claims self-defense. Wait until you hear what a body motion expert sees in this demonstration.
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KEILAR: Bottom of the hour now. Welcome back, everyone. I'm Brianna Keilar in for Randi Kaye. And these are the five stories that we're watching this morning.
Number one, authorities in Florida haven't found the body of a man swallowed by a sinkhole. Jeff Bush was in the bedroom of his Tampa home on Thursday night when the room collapsed into the ground. Bush's brother tried to save but was unsuccessful. Authorities say the hole is growing bigger and could take the house with it.
Number two, the process of picking the next Pope is not likely to start until the middle of next week. Earlier today a Vatican spokesman said some of the cardinals involved in the process won't arrive until Monday or Tuesday. And 115 cardinals are gathering for meetings which will set the date for the secret election of the next Pope. Benedict XVI stepped downed Thursday.
Number three, in just over three weeks the Supreme Court will begin to hear oral arguments on California's proposition 8, which bans same-sex marriage. Now President Obama is urging the court to overturn the ban, filing a breach with the Supreme Court. Last night dozens of Republican leaders filed a similar brief in support of marriage equality.
Number four, Detroit just about broke, if you can imagine that. So Michigan's governor Rick Snyder is taking drastic action. He announced he will appoint an emergency manager to run the city government. That manager will have the power to cut spending and throw out city contracts if necessary. A state review found Detroit long term debts exceeds $14 billion.
And number five, actress Bonnie Franklin died following complications from pancreatic cancer.
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KEILAR: Franklin was best known for her role at a single mom on the show "One Day at a Time." Fellow actress Valerie Bertinelli played her youngest daughter in the show. Bertinelli expressed sadness over Franklin's death, in a statement saying, quote, "My heart is breaking. Bonnie has always been one of the most important women in my life and was a second mother to me." Bonnie Franklin was 69 years old.
You won't feel it today but you will likely feel it soon. We're talking about the $85 billion in federal funds that's getting axed. President Obama signed the order yesterday after 11th-hour talked fizzled out. It's not that he wanted to sign it, he had to by law because Congress didn't act, didn't reach a deal, some say didn't lift a finger. Most members fled down before the deadline even approached.
Joining me now, Congressman Michael Grimm, Republican from New York and Congressman Adam Schiff, Democrat from California. Gentlemen, thank you so much for being here. I want to talk to you, Congressman Grimm first. President Obama said he's willing to compromise and do things even his own party might not like to strike a deal. I know there's a general mistrust of President Obama in your party, but what is your side willing to do, if anything?
REP. MICHAEL GRIMM, (R) NEW YORK: Well, first of all, we're ready to sit down and do that. But it's very difficult to take the president at his word when he sent the last week and a half campaigning against us, and beating us up and blaming us.
KEILAR: But sitting on it, do what, Congressman? If Republicans say they're not going to budge on tax increases, which the president is demanding, do you think that he's just being completely disingenuous saying he will budge?
GRIMM: Absolutely. I think his actions -- I'm tired of hearing the president's rhetoric. Let's just see actions. It if he really wants to come to the table, have smarter cuts and work with us, then that's what you do. You sit down. Why hasn't he invited members over to the White House to discuss these things? Not once have I been invited, never. He wants the campaign for 2014. This is all optics to blame Republicans.
KEILAR: In your mind, tax increases is completely off the table? That's not anything you would budge on?
GRIMM: We already gave him taxes. The fiscal cliff just passed. He $620 billion in new taxes, and we were told if he agreed to the tax hikes the cuts would come next. We did our part, $620 billion new in taxes on top of a $1 trillion that the president got in his Obama care. There's $1 trillion more taxes in Obama care. $620 billion thanks to the fiscal cliff which we agreed to and now it's time to cut, he says he wants more taxes. That is the ultimate act of being disingenuous.
KEILAR: Congressman Schiff, I want to be tough on you, too, sir, because I watched Congress leave town last week when nothing was done, and here we came to yesterday where the president had to sign this executive order. These were spending cuts that Congress put in place that were never supposed to go into effect. And a day before they did, Congress leaves town, walks down the steps. Any regular American looking at that kind of throws their hands in the air and says, what the heck is going on here? I mean, how do you tell America Americans and your constituents that Congress is doing the work?
REP. ADAM SCHIFF, (D) CALIFORNIA: Well, the Congress isn't doing the work, and as a matter of fact, I stayed here in town and think it was irresponsible for us to recess and adjourn. They are stupid cuts that cut across the board, cut the good and bad, the efficient with the inefficient.
Look, the president has compromised. The president has accepted, Democrats accepted, $1.2 trillion already in cuts, only $600 billion in new revenues. Even before the sequester it was two to one cuts to new revenue and we are before the sequester down to non-discretionary spending, the lowest levels in 50 years. And we're trying to negotiate with the house GOP that says he won't get rid of a single special interest tax deduction, not for a hedge fund billionaire, not for jet plane owners, the oil industry making record profits without going to, what, lowest non-discretionary spending in 100 years? We're simply not going to sacrifice a health care for poor seniors to preserve special interest tax breaks for hedge fund billionaires. That's not what voters voted for.
KEILAR: Congressman Grimm, will you respond to that for me?
GRIMM: That sounds great, but it's not true. Republicans have been for years beating the drum for overall tax reform. I am for tax reform which kin closing loopholes. We've is it for years. We want an overall tax reform but not cherry pick out in closing loopholes that the president can spend more money. The reality, what did the Senate do the day before? They voted on a Democrat package to get rid of the spending for, spending cuts for 2013 and 14 and increase spending and raise taxes. The truth is they want to close loophole to spend more money. They want tax more and spend more. We're not going to do that. We want overall tax reform, absolutely. But want tax reform to pay down a debt crippling our nation and costing jobs and endangering our future. KEILAR: I want to ask you both a question.
SCHIFF: If I could respond briefly, because it's very indicative. They're willing to do tax reform as long as it doesn't raise any new revenue. You can't pay down the deficit and debt if you do tax reform that doesn't raise new revenue. It's like saying we're in favor of spending as long as they're revenue neutral. That kind of defeats the purpose.
GRIMM: No. Actually it doesn't --
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KEILAR: I want to -- I only have a little bit of time, and I want to get a question in to both of you, if you can just answer succinctly for me. I want to know what you would say to your constituents watching now who are worried that these cuts could affect them? You know, this will affect education, national parks. This could cause delays in airports, all kinds of things, all kinds of effects. What do you say to them, specifically about what you are willing to do to strike a deal here in the next week, coming weeks?
GRIMM: Very simply. I would say to them --
SCHIFF: To my constituents I willing to support something balanced, makes additional cuts but also raises new revenues, something that's fair, essentially something that you voted for in November. That's the way forward and ultimately where we're going to get. But the house GOP made the decision months ago they were going to allow the sequester to go into effect. This was the way of managing their Tea Party caucus, and unfortunately, the country's going to have to suffer these cuts until there's enough pressure on them to come to the table and guest to, yes.
KEILAR: Congressman Grimm?
GRIMM: OK. Simply, to all of my constituents, the house passed two different alternatives already, because we know we can cut smarter. These across-the-board cuts nobody wants to do. We already put the two different things on the table. All we need is for the Democrats to come back and say, well, we agree to this part not that part and send us something. I'm willing to work on anything. The last thing I want is for somebody to get hurt by this.
The truth is, as long as the president continues to campaign and try to just put Republicans in a bad light for 2014, try to flip back the house, none of this will happen. We've done our job. We put two alternatives on the table. If they're not acceptable, the way the process is, send it back, amend it. They haven't sent back anything. When their ready and willing to actually do the work I'm right here ready to go.
KEILAR: It's not terribly encouraging to hear you both speak, but I certainly appreciate your time for being with us. Congressman Michael Grimm and Adam Schiff, thanks to both of you.
Jodi Arias breaks down on the stand.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Were you crying when you were stabbing him?
ARIAS: I don't remember.
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KEILAR: You see the tears, the sobs, hear her shaky voice, but what does a body language expert really see?
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KEILAR: Jodi Arias' defense team will be doing damage control when she returns to the stand. During a week of intense cross examination Arias confessed to lies, cover-ups, and graphic sexual acts, confessions, some say, damaged her credibility. Now it is Arias' turn to convince the jury she's not a cold-blooded killer but the victim. "In-Session" correspondent Jean Casarez has more.
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JEAN CASAREZ, "IN SESSION" CORRESPONDENT: With Jodi Arias still on the stand, this was the week of cross-examination. Jodi testified after she was body-slammed by Travis on the floor of the bathroom, she ran not out of the bathroom but into a closet and climbed to the top shelf to retrieve a gun that she knew Travis had. She came out of the closet confronting him with that gun and aimed it at him. She demonstrated in court how Travis lunged at her like a linebacker. The gun went off. She said Travis issued a profanity to her, culminating with, "killing you." She said after that they both fell to the floor and she remembered nothing else.
The prosecutor countered her on every bit of her story by saying, say that Travis had a gun in the closet, but yet in that moment of terror, there is not one thing out of place in that closet, and the crime scene photo show that. He also said her story didn't match the forensics because of all the blood at the scene, because of the bullet casing on top of blood, meaning it came last not first.
Although she testified that she blacked out, she did admit many things that she stabbed Travis multiple times, that she slit his float ear to ear, found a cup under the bathroom sink and was responsible for the cleanup. She admitted taking the gun with her and throwing it into the desert.
And she also admitted she tried to not implicate her in anything to show she was not in Mesa, Arizona and not the killer of Travis Alexander. Reporting from Phoenix, I'm Jean Casarez.
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KEILAR: And for weeks we've seen Arias cry, smile, snap, smirk, and sob. But is it all an act? We're not experts in body language, but Patti Wood is, and she is also the author of "Snap, Making the Most of First Impression, Body Language and Charisma." Thanks for joining us. I want to start with a bombshell moment and then get your take on it. Let's watch.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Were you crying when you were shooting him?
ARIAS: I don't remember.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Were you crying when you were stabbing him?
ARIAS: I don't remember.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: How about when you cut his throat, were you crying then?
ARIAS: I don't know.
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KEILAR: So my initial reaction, because I've seen some people fake cry in the past, it seems like genuine cry, but what are you seeing here?
PATTI WOOD, BODY LANGUAGE EXPERT: You need to see what happened just before this outburst.
KEILAR: OK.
WOOD: Let's watch t.
KEILAR: All right, let's watch.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: According to you, you're able to close that door. Right?
ARIAS: I slammed it.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And -- but that door doesn't have a lock to it. Right?
ARIAS: Not that I recall.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Well, you were there. Right?
ARIAS: Yes.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Let's take a look at exhibit number 78. Where were you taking the photographs when this happened? I want to see it on this exhibit.
ARIAS: Outside the shower.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Pardon?
ARIAS: Outside the shower.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Why don't you put a mark on it?
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KEILAR: This gives something away to you.
WOOD: Absolutely. Liars cover up their lies when their desperate and cornered by overdoing sadness. You saw the hooded eyes and the trembling at mouth right before. What's also dramatic is how when exhibit 78 was given and she had to actually talk about the murder. She erupted and immediately tried to disappear. She covered with her hair, she used what I call facial blocks with her hands, covering her mouth, her eyes, all to disappear. She was covering up the fact that she actually did it.
KEILAR: So you say that, then, this is sort of a, oh, my goodness I'm caught kind of moment?
WOOD: Absolutely. There's specific body language cues when somebody is innocent. They want you to see that they're innocent. They move towards you. They want to look at you and make sure you believe them. They don't try to hide.
KEILAR: And so I guess, you know, let's extrapolate from this into the everyday, if you will. How can you tell if a person is really remorseful versus someone crying just because he or she got caught, they kind of open up to you?
WOOD: Typically they open up. If it's real tears, they're in that emotional brain. So they're struggling for words. You'll hear the sob. You'll hear a sound, you'll hear a gulp and the words come out roughly, not the smooth words, "I don't know" very strongly and very calmly that are in juxtaposition with these fake tears.
KEILAR: You feel she's faking it?
WOOD: Absolutely.
KEILAR: Let's watch another key moment. This is when Arias says she had to shoot Alexander because he attacked her. This goes to the crux of her defense here that this was self-defense. She said he attacked her like a linebacker. The prosecutor asked Arias to re-enact how she did it and this is the what we're seeing here.
WOOD: It's so interesting.
KEILAR: Explain this. What do you see?
WOOD: It's interesting. It's very difficult to lie an action. It's a complex set of motions. So let's look at the hands. You'll notice she's saying he attacked her and grabbed her, but the hands are flat out and relaxed. Her brain is not able to do those complex cues of grabbing. So it's clear it didn't happen.
KEILAR: It's easier to lie to say than it to lie and to act it out? WOOD: Yes. It's hard to do all of that limbic brain, emotional, physical actions.
KEILAR: OK. Now, let's also -- I want to as well -- you say this is not threatening. You don't feel that --
WOOD: No. Notice, specifically with the relaxed fingers out, displayed out, that's not an actual motion of attack. And so it's really clear it didn't truly happen.
KEILAR: OK, fascinating stuff, Patty Wood. We appreciate it. And I'm sure we'll be talking to you more about body language in this case and other ones as well. Thank you.
WOOD: My pleasure.
KEILAR: So tonight be sure to watch an "AC" Special Report, "Sex, Lies and Audiotape, the Jodi Arias Trial," that's tonight at 9:00 on CNN.
A cyclist gets hit unexpectedly during a race. Wait until you see what took him down.
But first, Chris Rumble was promising hockey play on his way to a professional career, that was until last year. CNN chief medical correspondent Dr. Sanjay Gupta shares his story in this week's "Human Factor."
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DR. SANJAY GUPTA, CNN CHIEF MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT: Chris Rumble loves the hard hits, the camaraderie, and the trash talk.
CHRIS RUMBLE, CANCER SURVIVOR: Hey, do something.
GUPTA: In hockey.
RUMBLE: It's always been in the back of my mind. Yes I want to be a hockey play whir I grow up.
GUPTA: After high school played against for an amateur hockey team. In April 2012 noticed his glands swollen, energy level was low, and then came the diagnosis.
RUMBLE: I knew looking it was a form of cancer, and I felt I had 1,000 pounds on my shoulders. I sunk into my seat.
GUPTA: Rumble approached his six months of brutal chemotherapy with a positive attitude.
RUMBLE: My large intestine ruptured.
GUPTA: The 22-year-old was a patient at Seattle children's hospital. He took comfort in being a role model for the younger ones and tried to cheer them up with another passion, making music videos.
(SINGING) GUPTA: This video went viral registering millions of hits. Now his cancer's in remission. Rumble is back on the ice, as freshman playing defense for the Golden Griffins.
RUMBLE: There were a couple points during my life I didn't think I'd make it back on the islet alone division I college hockey.
GUPTA: A win on the ice and in life.
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KEILAR: Have you ever wondered what would happen if your car pedal actually jammed and you were racing on the highway? You've got to see his, because that is exactly what happened to a 16-year-old in Texas whose car raced out of control at speeds of more than 120 miles per hour. He even called the police at one point begging to find a solution, but eventually he lost control of the car. The car flipped nearly five times. The car is crushed but thankfully he survived.
And watch this closely because you might not see it coming. A cyclist riding along and, bam, a deer. The biker was knocked of his bike during a race by that leaping animal, getting a little help. He wasn't seriously hurt and able to finish the three-hour race. The video has been view and YouTube more than 400,000 times since Monday. All the guy saw was fur, skies, and, yep, then the ground.
There's much more ahead in the next hour of CNN SATURDAY MORNING which begins after a quick break.
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