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California Spring Wildfire Threatens 4,000 Homes; New Discovery in Home of Tamerlan Tsarnaev; New Jobs Report Good for Your Nest Egg; Snakehead Invades Central Park

Aired May 04, 2013 - 08:00   ET

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RANDI KAYE, CNN ANCHOR: Good morning, everyone, and welcome back to our continuing coverage of the Boston bombings.

I'm Randi Kaye, coming to you live this morning from Boston. It is 8 o'clock on the East Coast, 5:00 am out West, where the spring wildfire continues to rage in Southern California: 4,000 homes threatened, 28,000 acres burned and firefighters are racing to contain the fire before the winds pick up.

Now back here in Boston, a new discovery inside the home of Boston bombing suspect Tamerlan Tsarnaev gives investigators new clues into the plot. So what does this mean about how much Tsarnaev's widow knew?

And Friday's jobs report is not just good for the unemployment; it's great for your nest egg. But is Wall Street lulling us into a false sense of security? Our business expert breaks it down.

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KAYE: Now to the Boston bombings. The death certificate confirms the violent final moments of Tamerlan Tsarnaev's life.

The owner of the funeral home handling the suspected bomber's burial read the document to CNN and says that it shows Tsarnaev died from gunshot wounds of torso and extremities and blunt trauma to head and torso.

As we know what led to his death it's still not clear what will happen to Tsarnaev now. His body sits in this Worcester funeral parlor.

Several newspapers report that four cemeteries have refused to take the suspected bomber. The New York "Daily News" says they're in New Jersey, Connecticut and Massachusetts.

In the meantime, his younger brother is revealing new details about their plan. Well, let's turn to CNN national correspondent Susan Candiotti, who has more information on this.

So Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, the younger brother, has been talking.

What is he saying?

SUSAN CANDIOTTI, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Yes, and he was talking right after he was initially arrested and he was in the hospital. He's not talking anymore now, now that he had his rights read to him, but investigators got a lot of information from him, including him telling them that the bomb was constructed right there in his older brother's apartment, where his older brother lived with his wife and young child.

And in fact, they didn't just take his word for it. Our sources tell us as well that they found bomb residue on the kitchen sink, on the kitchen table and in the bathtub.

Now it's hard to picture how the widow, his wife at the time, might not have noticed that, but she was away during the day working; a lot of questions surrounding all of this, Randi.

KAYE: Yes, certainly, to know that it was built right there in the apartment.

Also, what about the Boston Marathon itself? That wasn't really, we're learning, the initial target here.

CANDIOTTI: That's right, our sources are telling that, too, that according to the suspect, Dzhokhar, he told investigators that they were initially talking about the July 4th celebration here. And that's a huge celebration as we all know here in Boston -- a lot of us watch it on TV -- culminates with a big outdoor concert and fireworks and the like.

But because Dzhokhar told investigators that the bomb was ready earlier than they expected, they decided to move up the date. But our sources also tell us that they apparently just made that decision within a few days of the marathon.

So when you talk about planning, you really have to wonder; they might have known what they were doing with the bomb -- obviously they did -- but the planning that went into it and apparent lack of a getaway plan is stunning.

KAYE: Right. You also mentioned the widow of Tamerlan Tsarnaev. Now she has also been talking to investigators.

Is she cooperating?

CANDIOTTI: Her lawyer says that she is. Her lawyer says that she had no idea what was happening about this bomb plot and learned about it when it happened as well.

But one of the key things our sources tell us they're looking at is a phone call that she made to her husband after the bombing. The nature of the phone call we don't know.

KAYE: After he had been identified?

CANDIOTTI: After he had been identified.

(CROSSTALK) CANDIOTTI: That's right. So did she warn him that they were coming? Did she say, hey, what's going on? We don't know yet. But we are told that she is answering investigators' questions. They are asking her things, like to identify people in photographs -- we don't know who, but that is a key part of the investigation obviously right now.

KAYE: Yes. Certainly going to go on for a while as they seek answers. Susan, thank you very much. We'll check back with you later on.

Families of those killed in the bombings could get more than $1 million each from a charity fund set up after the attack. Some amputees also could receive about that much. That's according to "The Boston Globe." Attorney Ken Feinberg is managing The One Fund Boston. He has vowed to issue checks by the end of June. The fund has raised more than $28 million.

And an upcoming benefit concert aims to raise even more; among the headliners for the May 30th event, Boston's own Aerosmith, along with New Kids on the Block, James Taylor and Carole King.

All right. Now to your money, a surprise jump in the April jobs numbers sent markets soaring on Friday, the Dow touched 15,000 while the S&P finished above 1,600. For some perspective, if you invested $10,000 when the market bottomed out in 2009, that money would be worth nearly $24,000 today; 165,000 jobs were added last month and the unemployment rate ticked down a notch to 7.5 percent.

We'll have more on the jobs numbers and what it means for your 401(k) at 8:30 am Eastern time.

All right. Now to Los Angeles where thousands of homeowners this morning are hoping their homes will still be standing tonight.

In just two days a raging wildfire has nearly tripled in size and burned dozens of buildings. The smoke and flames have chased residents out of parts of Ventura County. Firefighters struggling now to get it under control.

CNN's Kyung Lah is in Ventura County for us this morning -- Kyung.

KYUNG LAH, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, Randi, firefighters have gotten the upper hand on this part of the fire. This is the northern flank of the fire. You can see all this charred hillside. Well, this was the scene of a very tough fight for firefighters, this was all once on fire, just on the other side of this hill, and what's known as the spring fire, very much an active fight going on.

This fire is proven to be unpredictable, very dangerous. What's kept it contained, helicopter water drops and merciless work from the ground crews. Firefighters have been going house by house trying to save thousands of homes which are still under threat. It has been a hot fight so far.

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LAH: Is it better today versus yesterday? CAPT. SCOTT DETTORRE, VENTURA COUNTRY FIRE DEPARTMENT: What's better today is we're going to have more forces in place to combat the fire with. What's probably going to be worse today is the weather.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (Inaudible).

LAH: You're just going to let this burn right into the ocean.

DETTORRE: That's -- yes, that's the plan. When we have this much wind behind it, that's really about all we can do. We get on the flanks; we want to get on the side of it. We try to contain it and we try to run this thing right into the Pacific Ocean.

LAH: The good news is that there is an improvement in the weather forecast; as soon as Sunday there may, just may, be some rain. Randi?

KAYE: Kyung Lah, thank you very much.

So let's find out more now about that rain. CNN meteorologist Alexandra Steele is tracking the weather for us this morning.

Alexandra, so what about the rain, is it coming to L.A.?

ALEXANDRA STEELE, AMS METEOROLOGIST: yes, it's coming but not much. But we are going to see big-time improvements with the firefighting efforts. So let me show you, we're seeing good news and bad news.

Let me kind of delineate the day for you. What we're seeing is these hot, dry, strong offshore winds we've seen have now changed direction, cooler, more humid onshore flow, bringing the moisture in off the water. So that is good news.

So we've got the increased humidity, the change in the wind direction and we do have some rain showers. Again, Sunday through Tuesday, best chance for the rain really coming on Monday. All right. So with the showers, only going to bring some very light rain.

So places like Los Angeles have only had about under 2 inches of rain this entire year while places elsewhere around the country have had 2 inches of rain in two days so paltry number of rain -- amounts of rain -- and only 17 percent of the snowpack. So they're at incredibly dry conditions. So thundershowers that they could see will produce some lightning and that could spark a fire with these tinder dry conditions.

And also kind of the shifting of the winds that we've seen which has really been so problematic for the firefighters.

Boy, there is certainly going to be a long, hot summer for these firefighters if this is a harbinger of things to come in terms of this fire season. And it looks like it will be.

All right. Here's the forecast, Saturday, tomorrow, today in the 70s, tomorrow only in the 60s. Yesterday the temperatures were in the 90s. So a dramatic improvement in terms of the forecast, increased humidity as well. And just want to show you the future radar and when the best chance for some rain is through the day today and tomorrow, but it's really Monday morning that's kind of the bull's eye for some rain.

You can see that around the Camarillo and, of course, the Los Angeles area. So there's the chance. It's very light in nature, this rain. But still, just kind of the overall pattern has changed so dramatically, which we will certainly see major improving conditions.

But look at this swath of moisture, a lot of the country, kind of east of the Mississippi seeing incredibly flooded conditions, where places like St. Louis have seen two inches of rain in two days.

KAYE: Alexandra Steele, thank you very much.

Overseas now, and Israel has confirmed that it did conduct an airstrike Friday in Syria.

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KAYE (voice-over): An Israeli official tells Reuters the strike targeted a shipment of missiles bound for Hezbollah in Lebanon. The attack was authorized in a secret security cabinet meeting. Israeli officials long have vowed to strike targets they think are being used to transfer weapons to terrorist groups.

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KAYE: Seven acres of guns, gear and controversy, the NRA's big annual meeting is off and running, but joining tens of thousands of gun lovers are supporters of tougher gun laws, who plan to challenge the NRA this weekend. I'll talk to one of them who, believe it or not, also is an NRA member, next.

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KAYE: Welcome back. The national gun debate is back in the spotlight this weekend with the NRA's annual meeting in Houston. It is the gun lobby's first meeting since President Obama started pushing for tougher gun laws after shooting tragedies like Newtown.

More than 70,000 are expected to attend gun shows and seminars and rallies in Houston this weekend, but several gun control groups are pushing back, most notably Michael Bloomberg's Mayors against Illegal Guns, who are also bringing their message to Houston with a new ad. We want to you take a look at it.

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ELVIN DANIEL, NRA MEMBER: Gina was a beautiful person who loved life.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Police say Radcliffe Haughton hunted down his estranged wife, Zina, and opened fire on her. ELVIN DANIEL, NRA MEMBER: That prohibits him from buying a gun. So he bought it from a private seller instead. Had there been a background check my sister, Zina, would still be with us right now.

I'm an NRA member. I also believe in sensible gun laws.

Tell Congress we need background checks on all gun purchases now.

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KAYE: Elvin Daniel, who was featured in that ad, joins me now; he's also in Houston.

Elvin, good morning to you. You and I have spoken about your sister, Zina. Is that was made you take part in this new ad, the fact that the man who killed her had a restraining order against him and should not have been able to get a gun, which he bought online?

DANIEL: Good morning. Randi, how are you?

KAYE: I'm well, thank you.

I'm just curious, is that what made you take part?

DANIEL: Yes, it is. I truly believe, had there been background checks done back then, there is a very good possibility that my sister, Zina, would still be with us this day. And I truly believe that by doing a background check we can save a lot of lives.

I was listening to Mr. Keene, David Keene yesterday, and one thing I agree with him about, he said guns are not the problem.

And I do agree with that, but 40 percent of guns that are bought from gun shows and are bought on the Internet, does anybody know how many criminals get their hands on those guns? Nobody talks about that. And I think that is a problem. By doing a background check we may prevent criminals from getting their hands on guns.

KAYE: So you do think it would make a difference. And it's interesting, as an NRA member that you're saying that, but is there a new strategy, as we look at that ad, to make the reality of gun violence more up close and personal? Because there you are, a family member taking part in this ad.

DANIEL: Absolutely, you know what? Before the tragedy happened to Zina and my family, I was with the same mental thought that, leave me and my guns alone, but once a tragedy like that hits home, the thinking totally changes. And you know, maybe people think that this couldn't happen to them. This could happen to them, this could happen to anybody.

KAYE: And you've heard the rebuttal, I'm sure, about background checks. I mean, you have Jared Loughner, the Tucson shooter; I mean, he passed a background check. Wade Michael Page, the Oak Creek shooter, he passed a background check. James Holmes, the accused Aurora shooter, he passed a background check.

So you say that you think it will make a difference. But what do you say when you hear that kind of pushback?

DANIEL: You know what? It's not a cure for all. I agree that there is going to be -- there is -- there is no, I hate to use the term bulletproof method but if it could save one life, I think we're obligated to do the background check.

And I tell the NRA members there are exemptions as far as background checks, in between family members, exchanging guns. You don't have to do a background check between friends. The background check will be done only at public places, such as gun shows or on the Internet gun sales.

KAYE: Elvin Daniel, thank you very much for your time and my best to your family.

DANIEL: Thank you, Randi.

KAYE: And we want you -- to tell you that, of course, you know the Kentucky derby is taking place today. We're going to be taking you to Churchill Downs, where one jockey isn't just trying to win the Kentucky Derby. She's also trying to make history. Hear why Rosie Napravnik says being a woman is working to her advantage.

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VICTOR BLACKWELL, CNN HOST: We've got some amazing video you have to see. It seems like a video game with this first person perspective of a gunfight. But what you're about to see is real -- and a warning here; it is disturbing.

Wow. Middlefield police in Ohio released dashcam video from a patrol unit -- look at that windshield. Investigators say James Gilkerson shot at two officers -- this happened in March; they're recovering from their injuries now, but Gilkerson was killed. And our affiliate WKYC reports that police still do not know why he started shooting.

Hey, today is Derby Day, the Kentucky Derby, pour a mint julep, grab your hat and place your bets. And you may want to place your bets on Rick Pinto's horse. He has been on a roll since leading Louisville to the NCAA chairmanship.

Joe Carter is live at Churchill Downs this morning, excellent assignment.

Joe, things are looking good for Pinto -- Patino; I'm sorry.

JOE CARTER, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Yes, you're absolutely right.

BLACKWELL: Patino.

CARTER: Rick Patino is his name and -- yes, no problem, I got you. And his horse, actually he co-owns a horse named Goldencents. Goldencents getting a lot of play this week because of the Patino connection, because of his trainer's connection as well being Doug O'Neil, a trainer of last year's winner, I'll Have Another.

And because of the jockey as well; the jockey is Kevin Krigger. He was the only African-American jockey running in today's race. And if he happens to win today, Kevin Krigger would be the first African- American jockey to win since 1902. And he says, as you'll hear, he's always knew he wanted to be a jockey, ever since he was about 5 years old.

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KEVIN KRIGGER, JOCKEY: I was born thinking about becoming a jockey. I don't know how I had that inskilled (sic) in me but I always wanted to be a jockey, you know, when I was in kindergarten I told my mom that was what I wanted to do and she thought I was kidding. But look at where I'm at today.

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CARTER: Again, what a month it would be for Rick Patino, winning the college basketball national championship a few weeks ago, elected into the Basketball Hall of Fame and potentially his horse, Goldencents, winning the Kentucky Derby today.

Now another horse a lot of people talking about is Mylute and Mylute's jockey, Rosie Napravnik. Now she could be the first female jockey ever to win the Kentucky Derby. So we have a lot history making possibilities today.

Rose Napravnik is a contender here, Victor, because of what she's been able to accomplish over the last year. She's ridden several horses, she's won numerous races and her horses have collected over $12 million in purses. She was in this race two years ago, back in 2011, she finished ninth which is the best finish for a female jockey ever.

So when she takes today's race, certainly a lot of eyeballs and a lot of money are going to be on her horse, in Mylute.

Now a couple of favorites for today, Victor, real quick, a horse named Orb is a favorite and a horse named Verrazano is a favorite. But don't think that the favorites are where your money should go today, because for the last four years, it's been a long shot that's won this race.

I'll give you a couple of long shots: Frac Daddy, one of my favorite names, and Oxbow. And Oxbow's jockey is Gary Stevens, he's 50 years old. This guy was a legend in the racing game years ago; he retired for seven years and ten he came back. And now he's here trying to win another Kentucky Derby.

And Victor, my favorite name, a lot of people pick horses based on the names, my favorite name in today's race, Charming Kitten. Charming Kitten, Victor.

BLACKWELL: Charming Kitten, great names. Hey, if my nearly last-place brackets from the NCAA championships didn't confirm I don't watch much college basketball, calling the guy Rick Pinto instead of Rick Patino just confirmed it for you, Joe. Thank you, from Churchill Downs.

CARTER: That's OK.

BLACKWELL: Hey, let's go now back to my colleague, Randi Kaye, live in Boston for more.

What's ahead, Randi?

KAYE: Good morning again Victor. Here in Boston new details continue to emerge in the Boston bombing investigation, including how the suspects planned their terror attacks. Details after the break.

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KAYE: Bottom of the hour now, welcome back, everyone. I'm Randi Kaye in Boston this morning. Thanks for starting your day with us.

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KAYE: Now for an update on the Boston bombings, the death certificate confirms the violent final moments of Tamerlan Tsarnaev's life. The owner of the funeral home handling the suspect bomber's burial read the document to CNN and said it shows Tsarnaev died from, quote, "gunshot wounds of torso and extremities and blunt trauma to head and torso."

So we know what led to his death, but it's still not clear what will happen to him now. His body sits in this Worcester funeral parlor. Several newspapers report that four cemeteries have refused to take the suspected bomber.

In the meantime, investigators found explosive residue inside the older Tsarnaev's Cambridge, Massachusetts, apartment, and his younger brother reveals their initial target was Boston's Independence Day celebration, not originally the Boston Marathon.

While investigators figure out what the suspected bombers did, other government officials are taking a look at what failures in the system helped them do it, and some are pointing to student visas.

Dzhokhar's friend, one of three arrested this week, was charged with allegedly throwing away evidence. The friend had entered the country on an expired visa. CNN's Joe Johns has been looking into the government's reaction -- Joe.

JOE JOHNS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Randi, this was bound to have a ripple effect, just the fact that one of the men from Kazakhstan now charged with conspiracy in the alleged cover-up actually was able to get into the country on an expired student visa, but the government is making the case that this change was already under consideration.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) JOHNS (voice-over): A federal source tells CNN that the Department of Homeland Security has put in place a policy that requires Customs officials to verify that foreign students have a valid visa before they're allowed to enter the United States.

The new policy is being viewed as a reaction to the Boston bombing case and the discovery that Azamat Tazhayako ,one of the students from Kazakhstan now charged with trying to cover up for Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, had been allowed to enter the United States in January without a valid student visa.

But the federal source says that the tightening on visa policy is part of a number of reforms that have been under development by the government for several months. The timing of the policy and the intense focus on foreign students generally is raising questions about whether people who come here from other countries will get singled out for special scrutiny because of what happened in Boston.

Supreme Court Justice Sonya Sotomayor brought up the Boston bombing suspects on her own at a speaking engagement in Colorado. She was asked a question about racial profiling.

SONYA SOTOMAYOR, SUPREME COURT JUSTICE: (Inaudible) about if you've been following the news about the Boston bombing and about criticisms, whether they're justified or not, about following up on the activities of the two young men who were involved.

Is that profiling? Could be. Is it something that you just can't ignore? Maybe sometimes not. It's a fine line that society walks in trying to be fair.

JOHNS (voice-over): And it's a potentially volatile issue as well. The discovery that one of the students charged in the cover-up got into the U.S. on a visa that wasn't valid has already attracted attention on Capitol Hill and is expected to come up in future hearings.

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JOHNS: And it's not just about the crime; it's also about immigration reforms being debated in the Congress. Senator Charles Grassley of Iowa authored a three-page letter to the Secretary of Homeland Security, asking questions about the visa issues in Boston. Randi?

KAYE: Joe Johns, thank you very much.

Now let's go to my colleague in Atlanta for some other stories making headlines this morning, Victor?

BLACKWELL: Randi, thank you.

President Obama is wrapping up his three-day visit to Mexico and Costa Rica and is urging increased trade and economic cooperation between the U.S. and its southern neighbors. Mr. Obama says it is time to put old mindsets aside and recognize new realities. He'll address business leaders at a forum in San Jose later today. Diminishing winds could help firefighters as they battle a waging wildfire in southern California. This is the Springs Fire; it scorched 28,000 acres in Ventura County since it erupted on Thursday. Fifteen homes have burned, along with 20 other buildings; 4,000 more homes are under threat.

Let's talk about your money now. The April jobs report is better than some expected and Friday stocks surged. Both the Dow and the S&P 500 set new records; that's good news for your retirement account.

Joining me to discuss this is Nela Richardson; she's a senior government analyst at Bloomberg LLP.

Nela, good to have you with us this morning. We all get excited in this frenzy when we see those numbers on Wall Street. But should there also be a level of, let's say, concern?

NELA RICHARDSON, SR. BLOOMBERG GOVERNMENT ANALYST: Absolutely, Victor, good morning. You know, for the top 7 percent of American households it's great to be in the stock market right now.

But for many Americans who had to withdraw money from their retirement accounts to cushion the financial crisis they're not really experiencing this boom. And for most people their wealth is tied to their houses and not the stock market. So we're seeing a vast swath of American population not really experiencing this boom on the stock market.

BLACKWELL: Let's talk about some of the losses, because a lot of people lost a lot of money in the Great Recession, as it's known now, but how much of that has been recovered?

RICHARDSON: Some of it has been. Some of the retirement accounts for the top -- the wealthiest individuals, those making over $500,000, you can expect that they're experiencing huge returns from this boom.

But for a lot of us who own our wealth through our homes, we still haven't seen house prices recover. And until that occurs, we're not going to see this general wealth distribution improve for most people.

BLACKWELL: Is there any direct relationship between what we see on Wall Street and the housing market?

RICHARDSON: There is. There is. You know, the overall economy is still struggling to rebound, and while corporate earnings have been record, corporations have figured out how to make money while reducing hours for workers.

And so there is a disconnect between corporate America and the labor market and that feeds into the housing market. The housing market cannot stay strong in its recovery without a strong labor market as well.

BLACKWELL: I'm going to say a word a lot of people probably don't want to hear. And I want to get your reaction to it.

RICHARDSON: Sure.

BLACKWELL: Bubble.

RICHARDSON: Bubble, right. So right now we have a Federal Reserve that's basically subsidizing the economy, buffering it, and in doing so, by buying a lot of bonds every month, they're pushing up prices in the stock market, which raises the concern of bubbles, bubbles that are not -- because the stock market is not solely supported by the real economy.

I'm less concerned actually about bubbles. I'm more concerned that not enough Americans are finding full-time work with great benefits and you saw that actually in this latest jobs report.

BLACKWELL: And let's go into the report. Let's talk about that because there are a lot of people who have this part-time work; they don't have the job, as you say, with the benefits, maybe they're working a few part-time jobs.

What else stuck out for you?

RICHARDSON: That was a huge indicator of what I think is a dire structural trend going forward. Too many people want a full-time job and can't find one. And you see that the industries that were booming in the report on Friday were industries like retail, temporary services, professional services, health care, where it's easier to work part-time.

What I'd like to see is the return of full-time jobs with great benefits and careers that people can work over the long haul.

BLACKWELL: You and a whole lot of people. Nela Richardson, thank you so much for joining us this morning.

RICHARDSON: Thank you for having me.

BLACKWELL: Let's go back to my colleague, Randi Kaye, in Boston for more on what's ahead.

Randi?

KAYE: Victor, phone conversations between a man and wife usually nobody's business, but when the couple are at the center of a terror investigation, well, that is a whole 'nother story. We'll look at legal consequences being faced now by Tamerlan Tsarnaev's widow.

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KAYE: Part of the Feds' investigation into the Boston bombing include phone conversations between suspect Tamerlan Tsarnaev and his wife, Katherine Russell, the night the FBI released photos of him.

A former FBI investigator mentioned they have ways of retrieving past phone conversations, even if she doesn't cooperate, which raises some legal questions, of course.

Joining me now is CNN legal analyst Paul Callan.

Paul, good morning. So investigators retrieving past phone conversations; that can be a scary thought, really, for all of us, but can anything they learn be used in court?

PAUL CALLAN, CNN LEGAL ANALYST: Well, you know, the technology appears to be there to retrieve a lot of information, including probably cell phone, telephone conversations.

I mean, we've seen reports that this stuff is monitored all over the world by U.S. intelligence agencies but when you get to the United States, admissibility in court, it's a different issue.

In a criminal case generally, a warrant has to be issued by a judge to permit the monitoring of a cell phone conversation or a telephone conversation of any kind, and you have to have probable cause to do that.

Now, they may have gone to a judge and the judge may have issued such a warrant. Obviously her connection to a husband who was involved in this bombing would provide probable cause for a warrant. But the bigger question, can they do this without a warrant because possibly she's connected to a foreign agency or a foreign power like Al Qaeda or a Muslim terrorist group that intends to do harm to the United States?

And the president, President Bush at least initially, felt that you could monitor American citizens who were communicating with foreigners, so this is a big controversial issue.

KAYE: Yes, and we know that certainly Katherine Russell may not have had anything to do with the bombings. That's at least what her lawyer is saying, but where is the legal fine line between what a spouse may know, especially if these bombs were built in that apartment -- and there was residue found -- and incrimination.

Where is that line drawn?

CALLAN: Well, she has -- she has got two areas of protection.

Number one, let's say hypothetically she was involved in preparing the bomb. There had been some reports that the bomb may have been prepared at her home or at least parts of it were built in the home.

If she was talking to her husband about it and involved in that process, the Fifth Amendment of the Constitution is available to her and she has the right to remain silent and not reveal anything.

The second thing is called the spousal privilege, and here, if you're married and there's a communication between you and your spouse in the context of the marriage that's intended to be confidential, you can't be compelled to reveal that in court, even if a subpoena is issued.

Now, there's a big exception to that, though. If you reveal the communication to somebody else and if your husband says we're going to make a bomb and we're going to blow something up, and then he tells his fellow bombmaker that he discussed it with you, it's not confidential anymore. And she can be compelled to reveal it.

So that's what we don't know here. And my bet is she's not going to have this spousal privilege, because obviously he was communicating with his brother about the bomb and the making of the bomb. So I don't see how anybody could say that was a confidential communication with his wife.

KAYE: Right.

What about the laptop? I mean, the Feds are focusing on the laptop that they retrieved from the younger suspect.

How can information from that be of any legal use?

CALLAN: Well, that will be very valuable. I mean, these laptops have become a treasure trove of information because, even when you try to erase things on laptops, forensic investigators can retrieve the material, and certainly particularly the younger generation does pretty much all of their communications by laptops. So I think that's going to be a valuable source of intelligence and evidence in subsequent criminal cases arising out of this matter. That's a very, very big thing that they were able to locate that.

KAYE: Paul Callan, nice to see you as always. Thank you very much.

CALLAN: Thank you, Randi.

KAYE: Turning to a wildlife mystery now, there is a scary-looking fish lurking beneath the surface of New York's Hudson River that can actually live out of the water. A live report next on why officials are so anxious to catch this one.

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BLACKWELL: OK. So this is -- it's like something out of a prehistoric nightmare and it could very well be in Central Park right now. Look at this thing. On paper, this is called the northern snakehead fish, but plenty of people call it the Frankenfish. Check out this video from "National Geographic."

These fish are invasive, they have pointy teeth. We've seen fish that are invasive with pointy teeth. But this one can breathe air. Look at this, it can live outside of water and crawl.

Environmental managers are worried that they're in a lake in New York's Central Park.

CNN radio and national correspondent Steve Kastenbaum joins us now, live from New York.

Steve, you went hunting for this fish, you know, it's no Loch Ness monster. People claim they've seen this thing.

STEVE KASTENBAUM, CNN CORRESPONDENT: They really do. And it's got a lot of people worried. I went up to the Northern Mir in the northernmost -- I'm sorry; the Harlem Mir in the northernmost reaches of Central Park to see what the deal is with this. And we spoke to some folks who claim that they've seen this monster fish. Take a look.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I notice it looked kind of like a dorsal fin on the top of the water, slowly flipping back and forth. I didn't really know what it was; I thought maybe it could be like a big catfish or something. But when I went home and checked it out online, it didn't seem to have any kind of fish like that in the Mir.

MARY SNOW, CNN CORRESPONDENT: So now what do you think?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The Mir monster, I don't know; the Loch Ness monster, I don't know. Could be anything.

(END VIDEO CLIP) KASTENBAUM: Yes, that's Mary Snow. She was up there with us investigating whether this invasive predator is actually in the waters or whether it was somebody thinking they saw it but it was actually something else, Victor.

BLACKWELL: You know what makes this fish so different? Yes, we've seen invasive fish, we've seen fish with sharp teeth but this one jumps out of the water, breathes outside of water for days and can move on land. Explain this to us.

KASTENBAUM: Isn't this crazy? I mean, this frightens me and in New York we don't scare easily, right? This fish, it can actually breathe out of water, it actually has to leave water as part of its life cycle from time to time to breathe air.

And it eats anything and everything in its path, and that's what has people so worried, because it can really upset the ecosystem at the Harlem Mir, which is home to a lot of turtles to carp. It can even eat frogs and it's been known to snatch, get this, a small duck once in a while.

BLACKWELL: Oh, now, that -- does it also mean it could be a danger for pets, then?

KASTENBAUM: You know, you want to be careful if you're around the Harlem Mir with your little dog, yes.

BLACKWELL: Yes. So this species -- I'm reading about it -- came from Korea, China, Russia, clearly places far from New York.

How does it get into Central Park?

KASTENBAUM: That's a really good question because it's actually it's illegal to own a northern snakehead alive anywhere in New York State.

So how did it get here? Well, it's a very popular food source in parts of China and Russia, and when I spoke to some fishermen around here, they told me that if you know the right people, you can still get one alive, even though you're not supposed to be able to.

And the leading theory is that somebody from a region where this fish is native to the waters there may have put a pair in the lake in hopes that it would breed and then they'd be able to fish it regularly and have a bountiful food source for their family.

But again, you know, they're looking for it. There was just one sighting and the warning signs went up, just one, so that tells you how worried environmentalists and the Department of Environmental Conservation is about this fish.

BLACKWELL: So they're obviously worried. We saw the signs pop up.

How worried are people in Central Park, are they taking this seriously?

KASTENBAUM: There are -- a lot of local fly fishermen who use this pond -- and they are very concerned because it's a very popular place to go; there are schools of carp there. It's a manmade lake about the size of three or four football fields.

But they've stocked it with fish for the purpose of recreational fishing. And if the northern snakehead fish gains a foothold in the Harlem Mir, you can forget about fishing anything else in this lake and pretty much the turtles might disappear as well, so they are really concerned.

BLACKWELL: All right. CNN Radio's Steve Kastenbaum, bringing us the story of the Frankenfish in New York, thank you.

KASTENBAUM: Thanks for having me.

BLACKWELL: New clues about how the Boston bombing suspects planned their attacks. Ahead, a live report on what investigators discovered inside the home of one of the suspects.

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BLACKWELL: A man on his way to sobriety class for drunk drivers crashed his car into a North Dakota County jail. He went right through the front doors.

Look at this. Police say they don't know if this was an accident or if he meant to do it. It's a possibility. And they are trying to determine if alcohol was involved. Good news here: no one inside the building was hurt.

A woman who was brutally attacked by a dog in Iowa is now about to undergo surgery to repair her nose. Now Karen Henry's injuries might have been worse if her husband, Lane, had not jumped in to save her. He said he first put his hand into the dog's mouth and then he tried something a bit unusual.

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LANE HENRY, RESCUED WIFE FROM DOG ATTACK: I had to do something, so I bit the (inaudible). I bit him on the nose. Important to me is getting this dog off of the street, I mean, to where he doesn't injure anybody again.

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BLACKWELL: And the county does not have laws against vicious dogs. But for now that dog is quarantined.

Let's go to Minnesota, where a teenage boy was driving on the highway, when he came upon this 400-pound black bear. His name is Kyler Burggraff -- the boy, not the bear. He hit the bear going 60 mph in a little Pontiac Bonneville. Screwed the car up. He was OK, except for some whiplash. The car actually totaled but he already has a new one and he says he plans to turn this bear into a rug.

Wow, that ended kind of sadly.

It's good to have you with us this morning. There's more on CNN SATURDAY MORNING. Let's go back to Randi in Boston.

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