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Would-Be Bomber Speaks; Iowa Recovers from Tornados
Aired November 13, 2005 - 18:59 ET
THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.
CAROL LIN, CNN ANCHOR: She wanted to end her life as a suicide bomber. What stopped her? We are going to have the latest from Amman, Jordan.
He helped lead the search for weapons of mass destruction in Iraq before the war. For the first time tonight, the general is speaking out about what he saw.
And one death, dozens of homes destroyed. Tonight, an Iowa community is picking up the pieces from natures destructive force. We are going to go live. It's November 13th and you're watching CNN LIVE SUNDAY.
Good evening, from the CNN Center in Atlanta, I'm Carol Lin.
To our top story in just a moment, but first, these are the stories making news right now.
President Bush is gearing up for a weeklong trip to Asia. He leaves tomorrow for Japan. Later in the week, he's going to attend the Asia-Pacific Economic Summit in South Korea. Leaders there will discuss trade and efforts to fight a possible flu pandemic. President Bush then heads to China and Mongolia.
In Jerusalem today, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice had some stern words for Iran. She said no civilized nation calls for the annihilation of another. Rice was referring to recent comments by Iran's president that Israel should be wiped off the map.
An Amber alert has been issued for a Pennsylvania girl who's parents were found dead this morning. The police chief in Lititz, west of Philadelphia, says 14-year-old Kara Beth Borden was kidnapped by her boyfriend, 18-year-old David G. Ludwig is suspected of killing the girl's parents.
And this is our top story now. It's perhaps the first television address of its kind, an accused female suicide bomber confessing to the world. It aired in Jordan today as the government tracks down who's responsible for last week's deadly hotel bombings in Amman.
CNN's Brent Sadler is there.
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BRENT SADLER, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): She is the human bomb that failed to explode. Saijida al-Rishawi, sent from Iraq to strike Jordan. A chilling display of the explosives. Wired and taught by her husband to kill. Handling the plastic-wrapped detonator she says malfunctioned. Calmly confessing to the camera how they prepared their double attack.
SAIJIDA AL-RISHAWI, WOULD-BE SUICIDE BOMBER (through translator): There was a wedding at the hotel with children, women, and men inside. My husband detonated. I tried to explode, but it wouldn't. People fled running and I left running with them.
SADLER: Fleeing death and destruction here at Amman's Radisson Hotel. Former U.S. President Bill Clinton inspects the blast site with his wife, Senator Hillary Clinton, sickened by the confession.
BILL CLINTON, 42ND PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Why would such a person do this at her age, come in here and ruin these people's lives? What twisted logic and thinking did that? And we should go after it.
SADLER: The televised confession came as thousands of Jordanians took to the streets expressing sorrow and solidarity after the attacks.
(on camera): The showing of that video an attempt to strip away the legitimacy claimed by suicide bombers that their attacks are justified in the name of Islam.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: They are sick people. I don't know what happened, the brainwash that they got from whoever it is.
SADLER (voice-over): But here too, controversial opinion, shared by many Jordanians with Palestinian roots that will enrage Israelis.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We are subjected to terrorism from Israel, from these kind of people like Zarqawi, from al Qaeda, we consider all these parties the terrorist parties.
SADLER: Jordanians striving to reconcile extreme differences towards terrorism in society here, while overcoming their sorrow for the victims.
Brent Sadler, CNN, Amman.
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LIN: Now straight ahead, you are going to hear from one filmmaker who went inside the mind of a suicide bomber and why he says sex is part of the equation.
Well, a well-known U.S. filmmaker was among the 57 people killed in the attacks in Amman, Jordan. Syria gave him a hero's burial today. Moustapha Akkad and his daughter, who also died, had dual Syrian-American citizenship. Akkad is best known in the United States for producing all eight of the "Halloween" horror movies.
Now President Bush has called Iran an ally of convenience for terrorists in Iraq. And now he's stepping up pressure on Iran on another front -- a different front. CNN's Elaine Quijano reports on that.
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ELAINE QUIJANO, CNN WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): As the Bush administration aggressively defends against Democrats' charges that it manipulated pre-war Iraq intelligence...
GEORGE W. BUSH, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: It is deeply irresponsible to re-write the history of how that war began.
QUIJANO: ... The New York Times reports the U.S. is quietly working to convince its allies that Iran is aiming to develop nuclear weapons.
SEN. PAT ROBERTS (R-KS), CHAIRMAN, INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE: I think that should be real concern to every American, and for that matter, everybody in the world.
QUIJANO: According to the report, in July, U.S. officials presented documents they said came from a stolen laptop computer to officials with the International Atomic Energy Agency in Vienna. American officials, the article says, won't go into detail about where the laptop came from, citing the need to protect their source. Those officials will reportedly only say they obtained it in mid-2004 from a longtime contact in Iran.
The computer documents reportedly included simulations and accounts of experiments all presented as proof of Iran's nuclear weapons ambitions. CNN contacted the CIA which declined to comment. One senior U.S. official confirmed the Vienna briefing but would not give more detail due to its classified nature.
And a senior European diplomat said the U.S. has been showing its European allies photos and evidence being described as Iran pursuing a compact nuclear warhead. The objective, to give a, quote, "big warning," about Iran's suspected weaponization program.
DAVID ALBRIGHT, FORMER U.N. WEAPONS INSPECTOR: We don't know was this information developed by people in the ballistic missile program who wanted to study how do you put a nuclear warhead on a missile? Or were they just ordered to do it by higher-ups as part of a step-by- step nuclear weapons program? We just don't know the answer.
QUIJANO: Iran denies the allegations and has always insisted it wants nuclear technology for peaceful energy purposes. But the U.S. believes images like this tell a different story. This is believed to be an Iranian nuclear research center before inspectors were allowed access. And here, it's believed, is the image after inspectors were allowed in, buildings and topsoil gone.
Even critics of the Bush administration agree Iran poses a danger, but they say in light of Iraq, convincing others of that now may be more difficult.
SEN. CARL LEVIN (D-MI), ARMED SERVICES COMMITTEE: We have such unreliable intelligence, produced by this administration, it now has made it difficult for people to accept intelligence assessments at their face value. And that's very dangerous.
STEPHEN HADLEY, NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISER: Obviously we need to do a better job of our intelligence, and that's why the reforms in response to the Silbermann-Robb Commission are so important. But it has not impaired our ability to pursue our policy.
QUIJANO (voice-over): The White House will not comment on intelligence matters, but a spokesman says it's well-known the United States has serious concerns about Iran pursuing nuclear capability, and says that is why the United States is working with the European Union and the international community towards a resolution.
Elaine Quijano, CNN, the White House.
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LIN: Well, it has been a day of counting losses and salvaging belongings in parts of tornado-ravaged Iowa. Twisters tore through two counties near Des Moines yesterday afternoon, one person was killed, others are still in shock. Reporter Bob Kaple from CNN affiliate KCCI is live in the hard-hit city of Stratford
Bob, anything going on behind you?
BOB KAPLE, KCCI REPORTER: Carol, 10 tornados touched down here yesterday across the state of Iowa. We are standing in one of the towns that was most hard-hit. Sixty miles north of Des Moines is a small town called Stratford, only about 750 residents.
Let's show you where we are. We're in what used to be a house, if you can believe it. This right here about all that's left, a music box that, if you wind it up, you might not be able to hear it, you can hear just a tiny bit of music, that's about it. The whole place has been flattened.
All that's left over here is a toilet seat, in fact, 25 homes destroyed here, many others sustaining severe damage. It's remarkable, honestly, that more people weren't killed. Just one woman was killed in this storm last night, she was heading down to her basement, when she didn't make it, the wind picked her up and kept up from going on any further.
It's a tragic tale, but one that people here are in good spirits. It's pretty incredible to see the community effort that has come together here. And I just want to show you one thing. This house completely flattened. You come back over here, next door neighbors, hardly a scratch.
That's the difference between what these tornados can do aside from something that so many viewers have seen over the past few months with these hurricanes that just destroy whole areas. This is so hit- and-miss, it's really a wild scene down here -- Carol.
LIN: Bob, we see some flashing lights behind you. Is there some police activity?
KAPLE: There are some police still around here, in fact, there's a curfew at 5:00 for residents here to keep looters out of here, something you heard, obviously, in New Orleans and just in Miami a few days ago or a few weeks ago at this point with Wilma, trying to keep looters out of the streets.
But there really hasn't been a problem with looters because the community has come together in such an amazing way to try and build together and rebuild. People just at this point are picking up the pieces.
LIN: You bet. All right. Bob Kaple, thank you very much for sharing what those people must have gone through when that tornado hit, thank you.
Well, that tornado was a close call for thousands of people. CNN meteorologist Dave Hennen.
Dave, the devastation in that neighborhood just, you know, an example of what Mother Nature can do.
DAVE HENNEN, CNN METEOROLOGIST: Yes, it's amazing, Carol. Within seconds, too. I mean, within 20 or 30 seconds the whole town was wiped out. That was in Hamilton County, that's one county north of this. I want to show you a different tornado that affected the area, this in Woodward.
We did see much damage here in the town of Woodward. This was about 4:00 yesterday. And the National Weather Service did a great job warning of this. This tornado had about a 30-minute lead time from when it did develop. In fact, this is the warning that came out yesterday at 3:58 p.m. saying that the tornado would be near Woodward, about 4:30, which was exactly the time that it hit . So over 30 minutes of lead time and advance notice that that tornado was moving through.
I also want to show you, this is the football stadium in Ames, Iowa, which was further up towards the northeast of where the tornado actually was moving. There were people gathering for the game here with Colorado. That's where Iowa State University is, about three miles away the tornado actually moved through the western part of town and caused considerable damage on the western parts of town.
They had to actually evacuated the fans that were in the stands already, and no reports of any injuries at the stadium as the tornado path was further to the west and then moved up towards the north.
I want to talk about one other thing and show you radar here. This is the present live radar. We did see some tornado reports earlier around Boca Raton, in fact, around Boca Raton Airport, reports of tornados.
And I want to show you a picture from one of our citizen journalists, from Chad Durasa, right here, really hard to kind of see because it was getting dark, there's a funnel cloud right there and there were reports of a little bit of minor damage around the airport there, but no reports of any injuries. So tornados this afternoon in Florida, they have been dying down at least at this hour.
Carol, back to you.
LIN: All right. Keep an eye on it. Thanks, Dave.
All right, TSI, you know, like CSI? But this is the tornado scene investigation coming up. What experts learn when they go inside these powerful storms.
And catching Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, why is it so difficult to find this wanted man?
Plus, he was given a list of top secret sites for alleged weapons of mass destruction, straight ahead, General "Spider" Marks speaks out for the first time about his investigation.
CNN LIVE SUNDAY continues right after this.
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LIN: He is already one of the most wanted men in the world, Abu Musab al-Zarqawi has a $25 million bounty on his head, and in the aftermath of the suicide bombings in Jordan, there is new urgency to catch the al Qaeda leader in Iraq. CNN military intelligence analyst Ken Robinson joins me now with more on what can be done to find this man.
The heat is on, Ken. What -- can Jordan be more influential in putting the heat on tracking this guy down?
KEN ROBINSON, CNN MILITARY INTELLIGENCE ANALYST: Well, you know, in the short term, they've got a couple of hours between the time they exploit information from this female suicide bomber because the location where she's from, Ramadi in the Al-Anbar province, is right at the same location area where they think geographically Zarqawi is hiding out.
So friends, relatives, acquaintances, associations, drivers license, addresses, tag numbers, anything is important at this point.
LIN: Mm-hmm. But culturally, how much do the women actually know? I mean, if it's true that her brother is one of Zarqawi's -- or was one of Zarqawi's top men, because I heard that he was killed, how much would she know about Zarqawi's movements, his strategy, and how Jordanian or coalition forces could find him?
ROBINSON: I don't think she would know anything about that. But that doesn't mean that coalition forces could not exploit the geographic locations that her and her husband traveled because he was associated now with this group and with the planning for the attack.
So any little bit of information that some people might find irrelevant might be very important. LIN: Mm-hmm. Now how did the Jordanian officials find her? How did they know so quickly who the culprits were in the body -- in Amman?
ROBINSON: We have to wait for public information statements out of Jordan. But if you look at how these hotels are set up and how they cordon and search, there are video cameras extensively used everywhere in the kingdom, especially around these Western sites that very rapidly can be exploited and get information from to see who came in as a couple and then to see how one of them is dead and one of them is still living.
LIN: What do you make of this taped confession, Ken, and why Jordan felt it was so important to air this on television? Did it look like a desperate act to appease the public?
ROBINSON: I think it was a smart move on the part of the Jordanians to convey to their population, which is a very sensitive, volatile population, most of which is really Palestinian, that they're in control and that they're doing something, that they're taking action.
Because remember, this is a pretty heinous act when you consider they targeted a wedding, where tribes come together to celebrate, and at that point, the Zarqawi network chose that as the way to make its statement.
It's going to be -- create a tipping probably. You see this group of people coming into the streets and protesting, that's pretty significant. Imams are now, you know, declaring that he's not representing Islam, that's significant.
LIN: Mm-hmm. So the Jordanian government felt it needed to appear strong and looking like they were taking action and in control.
ROBINSON: Yes.
LIN: All right. And what do Jordanians do with suicide bombers? What are they going to do with her after they finish question her?
ROBINSON: I imagine she's going to be guest of the Hashemite kingdom for a long time. I can't imagine them sending her back to Iraq. She's going to become a prisoner.
LIN: Brent Sadler predicts that she may get the ultimate punishment, which is death. And I was wondering whether you knew the fact that she's a woman would get her any kind of consideration or mercy.
ROBINSON: I don't think they will make that distinction. You know, the queen herself, Abdullah's wife, had said that, you know, this is really a genderless crime and the thing that bothered her was how horrific it was, of the target selection. I think the fact that she's a female won't help her in any way in this.
LIN: All right. Ken, we've got much more to talk about. You and I are going to go through the details of the explosives and the nature of the suicide bombing belt that she was wearing, because the king, Abdullah, was saying that they knew for a fact that it wasn't manufactured in Jordan and that the explosives didn't come from Jordan.
So the question is, how did they put this together? We will be talking about more of that later on tonight. Ken Robinson.
ROBINSON: Thanks, Carol.
LIN: All right. Turning now to other stories around the world.
In New Delhi, authorities say they've captured the suspected mastermind behind last month's triple bombings. The suspect, who is believed to be a member of a Pakistan-based militant group, was captured in Kashmir. Investigators believe he and four accomplices carried out the attacks killing 60 people and injuring more than 200 others.
A drop in overnight violence in France is fueling hopes that the country's worst wave of turmoil in decades is finally ending. Rioting subsided on the 17th night of unrest. The European Union is offering France more than $50 million to help head off more clashes.
And it's a first, singer Paul McCartney has gone where no other performer has gone before. The former Beatle beamed his concert in Anaheim, California, to space last night. McCartney got a live hook up to the International Space Station. The crew enjoyed the show and a special wake-up to "Good Day Sunshine." I guess the time difference worked in the factor.
Now a story you will only see on CNN, rare video of life inside North Korea. You are going to hear from the man who risked his life to show the world what life is like for those who live there.
And, he spent months investigating suspected sites for weapons of mass destruction. Coming up, General "Spider" Marks speaks out about it for the first time right here on CNN's LIVE SUNDAY.
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LIN: Tonight, "CNN PRESENTS" brings you a rare uncensored look inside North Korea. "Undercover in the Secret State" reveals dramatic undercover video of life, punishment and poverty in the oppressive country.
Here's a preview.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE (voice-over): Across from this hill in China is one of the border towns in North Korea. Loudspeakers pump propaganda through the streets.
Somewhere over there, Mr. Lee, the undercover cameraman, has new pictures to smuggle out. When he finally arrives, Mr. Lee brings his new footage to a secret location.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (through translator): It has been incredibly tense time. How can I say this? There would have been no way if my work was discovered. They would have put me out of existence.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This is uncensored North Korea in its bleak unadulterated form.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (through translator): Using a camera is the most serious form of treason in North Korea. My wife came with me on the journey and she kept telling me not to do it, that we should just get on with our lives.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He has captured outside the station, huddled in the streets, waiting for a train to arrive. Fuel shortages mean the trains don't often run.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE (through translator): I was petrified, but totally determined. The punishment they inflict on political offenders in North Korea is extremely severe. The system is such that they don't just punish the offender himself, his family and relatives are also punished.
I placed my camera inside a bag and made a hole on the side to secret the film. But the thing is, light was being reflected on the camera lens, so I had to be very, very careful.
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LIN: Well, last hour, I spoke to the director and producer of the film "Undercover in the Secret State." And I asked her what it was like to put together this extraordinary project on this secret society.
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SARAH MACDONALD, FILMMAKER: It is the most bizarre place. When I was asked to do the project, my only conscious thought of North Korea, obviously, all around the nuclear issue and the six-party talks going on at the moment. When you actually get there, and we got to the boarder with China, we didn't need to or want to go inside North Korea, because the North Koreans, they corral journalists, they only allow you to see the images that they want to present.
Whereas we had the real people inside, you know, bringing us real footage. And while the execution footage is horrific, it was the mundaneity of some of the other pictures that they captured, getting on the train and seeing the guard beating up a woman for not having the right papers, just people just waiting outside the trains, sometimes that mundaneity is actually more shocking than the most shocking images of people being publicly executed.
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LIN: "CNN PRESENTS: Undercover in the Secret State," it airs in about 30 minutes from now at 8 Eastern. You will not want to miss it. And speaking of, talking for the first time about alleged weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, General "Spider" Marks gives us an inside look at what he found.
And sifting through the debris, what experts learn when they go into a tornado strike zone.
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LIN: Welcome back to CNN.
Here's what's making news right now.
An Iraqi woman says that she took part in the terrorist attack on three hotels in Amman, Jordan, this week. Now actually it was last week, last Wednesday. The woman's taped confession aired today on Jordanian television.
The would-be suicide attacker says her bomb failed so she ran out of the Radisson Hotel. Jordanian authorities say they've detained 12 other people in connection with their investigation.
Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton and former President Bill Clinton interrupted a trip to Israel and traveled to Jordan today. Now the Clinton's toured the Radisson Hotel. Now, the Clinton's toured the Radisson Hotel in Amman, where the bomb exploded.
Senator Clinton called on people everywhere to condemn, quote, "this horrible destructive evil act."
Families in central Iowa are cleaning up after a big mess. That's after tornadoes rolled through the area yesterday. The twisters killed an 82-year old woman in Stratford. They also destroyed dozens of homes and toppled trees and downed power lines.
And now to two political hot topics. Prewar intelligence and the president's popularity. Let's start with the latter. A new poll from "Newsweek" shows Mr. Bush's approval rating is now just 36 percent. That is an all time low. While it's unclear how much of his 58 percent disapproval rating is due to the controversy over Iraq, President Bush has gone on the offensive over his decision to go to war.
During a speech Friday, Mr. Bush blasted Democrats who accused his administration of manipulating intelligence on weapons of mass destruction.
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GEORGE W. BUSH, U.S. PRESIDENT: As president and commander in chief I recept (ph) the responsibilities and the criticisms and the consequences that come with such a solemn decision. While it's perfectly gel - legitimate to criticize my decision or - or the conduct of the war, it is deeply irresponsible to rewrite the history of how that war began. SEN. JOHN ROCKEFELLER, (D) WV: President Bush is the last person who should talk about rewriting history. In my mind, he made up his own mind as did Cheney and Rumsfeld to go to war in Afghanistan and then as quickly as they could in Iraq within two or three days of 9/11.
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LIN: So how was the prewar intelligence gathered? What did the government really know before going to war? Brigadier General James "Spider" Marks was the lead army intelligence officer on the ground in Iraq. He was given a top secret list of sites where WMD were believed to be and now for the first time, General Marks is in an exclusive live interview only on CNN, talks about what he saw during his search.
General, welcome.
BGN JAMES MARKS, CNN MILITARY ANALYST: Thanks, Carol.
LIN: So you got this list. Some 946 suspected sites. What guidance did the administration give you as to what to do with this information?
MARKS: Well, Carol, as I was being called forward to join this - the land component that was going to prosecute the war, and bear in mind, war was not inevitable. Certainly all the steps were being put in place so that if the inevitability were to come we would be prepared so as I joined the team I went to the Defense Intelligence Agency and I started to get my arms around the WMD issue.
And the Defense Intelligence Agency had a weapons of mass destruction master site list, a thing we called the WMDSL (ph) that had these 946 sites and this was a list from one to 946 of storage sites and chemical locations and potential nuke production facilities and these were suspected intel sites, or suspected WMD sites based on intelligence that had been gathered over the course of many years.
Two things struck me. Number one is, there was little to no human intelligence. That is certainly not surprising based on the fact that Iraq was isolated politically and economically the previous decade following Desert Storm, but the second thing is that a lot of the intelligence that I saw personally along with the analysts in the Defense Intelligence Agency that was shared throughout the intelligence community is a lot of this was pretty dated stuff.
And what troubled me a little bit is we needed to start cranking up and getting a little sense of urgency going in terms of the technical collection, enhanced technical collection to go after all of these sites. Now what we didn't have, Carol, to answer your question very specifically, was there was no operationalization or prioritization of this list other than ...
LIN: Nine hundred plus sites, you go figure it out yourself?
MARKS: Well, frankly, yes. The short answer is yes. Now, most of these sites were in the vicinity of Baghdad and subsequent to our liberation of Iraq we have covered down and we have exploited all of those sites, but as we were getting ready to go to war, understand the dearth of human intelligence that we had, the fact that we didn't have a prioritized list other than one to 946.
LIN: All right. So you spent months before the war analyzing this and then you spent the months - the beginning part of the war on the ground. You managed to actually get to some 200 sites. What did you find specifically, what did you find?
MARKS: Carol, we found all the mechanisms in place for a weapons of mass destruction program. What we did not find, what we did not find, and I want to make this very clear ...
LIN: OK.
MARKS: Is we did not find anything that was weaponized. What we found was precursors. We found storage sites, we found laboratories. We found chemical sites. We went to the Tuatha (ph) yellowcake facility. We found yellowcake.
The issue was there was a lot of intelligence that was available a priori our going to war that needed to be updated and what happened was we created an infrastructure to go after these sites, and as we rolled upon them ...
LIN: Right.
MARKS: We secured them and we began our exploitation.
LIN: OK. So you have the ingredients. Do you have the recipe? Because if he - you also were part of the interrogation of his 55 - Saddam Hussein's top 55 men, the so called deck of cards was the nickname the Bush administration came up.
What did they tell you, because it sounds like, from what they told you, that he had the material and that he had potentially the capability then to produce weapons of mass destruction. It might just take some time but he had the stuff.
MARKS: Absolutely and that was confirmed through our physical exploitation of a number of these sites and as we started to roll up the top 55, certainly not all of them, but as we started to roll them up and began interrogations, pieces of the puzzle started to come together and what we saw was the mechanism in place for a weapons of mass destruction capability that Iraq had that was resident.
LIN: So why did the national security adviser, Stephen Hadley go before the cameras today in an interview and said hey, we were wrong?
MARKS: Well, you'd have to as secretary (sic) Hadley.
LIN: Because you're saying the administration had enough to justify war. That Saddam Hussein had the ability to make weapons of mass destruction if he wanted to.
MARKS: And the decision to go to war certainly is a political decision and it rested in one person's hands and that was the president of the United States.
What I saw as the senior intelligence guy on the ground was sufficient evidence that needed to be confirmed, but it was sufficiently clear to me and compelling to me that there were a number of sites and as we got into those sites we found out that he in fact had the mechanism that could have put - the mechanisms to put this together, Carol.
LIN: General Spider Marks, I know this is not the last that we'll be talking about this but fascinating and we can't get into the political dialogue, you're not a politician, policymaker, but you're the guy on the ground.
We really appreciate the information.
MARKS: Thanks Carol.
LIN: General Spider Marks.
All right in news now. Across America.
Pennsylvania police are on the lookout for this man, 18 year old David G. Ludwig. They say he abducted his teenage girlfriend at gunpoint after killing his parents. An Amber alert has been issued for the girl, 14 year old Cara Beth Borden (ph).
NASCAR driver Kurt Busch has been suspended for two races after getting a ticket for bad driving off the racetrack. Arizona police say Busch ran a stop sign Friday night.
The Associated Press reports a field breath test revealed alcohol on Busch's breath. The AP says when the NASCAR champ was taken in for another breath test, the breathalyzer failed to work. Busch was then cited for reckless driving.
And take a look at this video. A small plane trying to land in a thunderstorm in Milwaukee. We brought it to you as breaking news last night. Well, it nosedived into the power lines in the middle of the city. Amazingly, the pilot survived. It took hours for crews to get the plane out of the wires. Officials says the pilot is hospitalized with some pretty good bumps and cuts, but frankly, he's alive.
All right, for the second time in week, a deadly swath of tornadoes has torn across the Midwest, the latest occurring yesterday in central Iowa. Tornadoes leveled dozens of homes in two counties near Des Moines and killed one person.
Last week, Indiana was hit. CNN's Rob Marciano explains how the lessons learned from those tornadoes could help save the lives of others.
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ROB MARCIANO, CNN METEOROLOGIST: This is just amazing to me. This side of the street, virtually no damage at all, just the insulation. And then this side of the street, just completely wiped out.
RICK SHANKLIN, NWS: You get over here and you see very little damage. We're right at the edge of the tornado vortex.
MARCIANO (voice-over): Rick Shanklin is a man devoted to chaos. When a storm hits, he goes in to investigate. Was it a twister, how big, how bad?
SHANKLIN: Number one is to get out and look at the characteristics of the tornado itself from start to finish and secondly is to get input from everyone that was in harm's way, how they got the warning, if they got the warning and then what action they took.
MARCIANO: It is forensic work, much like the crime scene investigators on the popular TV show. Here, the more you know about a storm, the better prepared you'll be for the next one.
SHANKLIN: Definitely is an investigation process to get out here and determine exactly what went on and determine all of the characteristics.
MARCIANO: It's a huge task, investigating a deadly tornado with a path over 40 miles long. Satellites, radars, aerials and eyewitnesses all factor into the final report. But in the end storm experts like Shanklin need to be on the ground to pick apart the evidence.
(on camera): So here's a home with a brick and concrete cinder block foundation totally ripped apart.
SHANKLIN: Mm-hmm.
MARCIANO: What is your trained eye seeing now when you look at the anatomy of the storm?
SHANKLIN: Well, I see some things in the structure that give some clues. The bottom plate here, you an see that it is bolted down. That's obviously a good thing to have it connected well to the foundation.
The next question would be the stud walls, how are they secured?
MARCIANO (voice-over): Are the walls just nailed to the foundation? How are they fastened? How is the roof attached? Still, other questions?
SHANKLIN: Was the garage door open?
MARCIANO (on camera): So let's dispel a myth right here. A lot of people think you should open your windows when a storm is coming. You're saying that's not a good idea.
SHANKLIN: That is not a good idea. The key thing is stay away from the windows.
MARCIANO: Where did this tornado come from and where did it go?
SHANKLIN: It came from basically the southwest, back in this direction and tracked this direction to the northeast very rapidly, 50 to 60 miles an hour.
MARCIANO (voice-over): Glass shattered, brick pulverized and still bent in towards the center of the twister.
(on camera): Are we closer to the core of the vortex?
SHANKLIN: We are. We're a little bit more into the core. I'd say just in front of this house probably would be just about the center of the core of the vortex.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This is absolutely incredibly. Look at it come down.
MARCIANO (voice-over): Tornadoes are ranked much like hurricanes. F-0 is a very weak tornado and 5s are very strong with winds around 300 miles an hour, causing catastrophic damage.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: That's moving right at us. We've got to get out of here.
MARCIANO: So what kind of wind speed would bring that kind of damage?
SHANKLIN: Well, from what we saw there, we're pretty confident that the winds would have been around 200 miles an hour.
MARCIANO: F-3.
SHANKLIN: Upper end F-3.
MARCIANO: It's likely the people who live here don't really care what rating Rick gives this storm. But his investigative work on this tornado will help better prepare and protect other neighborhoods in the path of the next one.
Rob Marciano, CNN, Evansville, Indiana.
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LIN: Cracking down on counterfeit merchandise. We are going to show you some undercover video as police fight back against illegal trade.
And inside the mind of a suicide bomber. Are they natural born killers or does society teach them evil. One filmmaker gives us a glimpse into their lives.
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LIN: Well, her face is all over the TV today after a stunning confession. She says she tried to blow herself up as part of a suicide mission in Jordan last week. Now, obviously, she didn't succeed and it's people like her who have inspired the documentary, "Suicide Killers."
Its producer has fascinating insight into their minds. He was a guest on CNN's ANDERSON COOPER 360.
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ANDERSON COOPER, CNN ANCHOR: You have talked to several would-be suicide bombers, some of their parents as well. What surprised you most about them?
PIERRE REHOV, DOCUMENTARY FILMMAKER: There is nothing evil in them.
Actually, I had the sense immediately that they don't -- they have a sense of good and evil, which is only different from ours. But, beside that, they are not like natural-born killers, or they don't have this psychopathology of wanting to become suicide bombers.
COOPER: What do you think it is, though, that -- that, you know, makes them take these steps?
REHOV: Well, they live in a society where, first of all, almost everything is forbidden. And, mainly, they live in a society so repressive that they cannot have any chance of having fun with -- with anything in their life. Everything which is forbidden on the -- on the Earth becomes automatically authorized in the afterlife. And they believe very, very strongly in this afterlife. It is absolutely part of their life.
COOPER: I read a quote. Y ou once said that, for some of these -- these people, a suicide attack is -- is the only chance they can have of an orgasm. What -- what did you mean?
REHOV: Well, again, you know, most of the kids who do that are between 16 and 18 years old. And this is the age where the libido is at its most. They have no idea of what a woman looks like. They have never seen a naked woman.
And part of the training for some of them is to watch porno tapes, so they have an idea. They don't watch porno tapes for having a pleasure, but -- but just to hate even more the flesh that they carry with them. You know, it's this problem of being so afraid of death, having so much anxiety toward death, that the only solution for them is to blow up for this instant second of pleasure, where they have the equivalent of what would be an orgasm, because they have no sexuality at all.
COOPER: I want to play a clip from -- from your documentary. Let -- let's listen.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE (through translator): I wanted to be a martyr for God and the homeland. God would have given me happiness in paradise. I would be given 72 virgins.
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COOPER: What is a martyr? What does that mean?
REHOV: It's somebody who's going to lose his life in the name of God by doing an -- an extreme act, by becoming the hand of God.
COOPER: Did any of them have regrets, have wish they had not attempted, or did they all say they would do it again?
REHOV: None of the ones I have been talking to, even though they were in an Israeli jail, surrounded by Israeli guards, they said other words, something else, but, yes, I want to do it again.
COOPER: It's often not just the -- these -- these young men. It is also their families.
We want to play a clip again from your film, a mother of a suicide bomber.
Let's listen.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE (through translator): The El Hein family has given more than one martyr. We are ready to sacrifice all our children.
COOPER: These parents, in many cases, seem proud of what their children have done.
REHOV: Yes, they're proud.
And not only that, but one of the mothers was basically waiting for a postcard -- for a postcard or phone call from heaven. The mothers don't think that their -- their -- their kid is dead. They think that their kid is gone to another country called heaven, the same way he would have gone to Egypt or any -- any other Muslim place.
COOPER: Do you see any movement in Islam to just categorically condemn suicide attacks?
REHOV: Categorically, not.
For instance, right now in Jordan, everybody is shocked of what happened last night. But, when it comes down to talking about the -- the same thing happening inside Israel, they understand about Israel. They just don't understand the same thing happening inside Jordan.
The principle itself, it's not something which is condemned unanimously by the Islamic world.
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LIN: And be sure to watch Anderson Cooper at his new time, weeknights starting at 10:00 p.m. Eastern.
On a completely different matter, knock-off Gucci, bootleg DVDs. It's all available in parts of downtown Los Angeles, but at what price? Police crack down on this growing crime, next on CNN LIVE SUNDAY. (COMMERCIAL BREAK)
LIN: ... a fortune, so why pay retail if you can wear a knockoff (inaudible). That's what a Los Angeles (inaudible) several of them were concerned about. CNN's Kareen Wynter takes us inside the aggressive efforts to crack down on California counterfeits.
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KAREEN WYNTER, CNN CORRESPONDENT: It's not where you would expect to find brand name items, from pricey purses to expensive eyewear by Chanel, Gucci, even Louis Vuitton. The gritty downtown allies of Los Angeles' fashion district, a magnet for shoppers like Cassandra Martinez (ph), looking for a steal on high fashion shades.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: And I got two sunglasses. They're both black Chanel sunglasses.
WYNTER: Sounds like a bargain? Los Angeles police say it's not. That this fashion corner has become an epicenter for illegal trade. Businesses profiting from counterfeit products at the cost of major corporations that are now fighting back.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: How much is this one?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It's supposed to be 45. I'll give you 40 dollars.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Forty dollars?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It's quality, it's very good, the color and everything.
WYNTER: This undercover video was made by Chris Buckner (ph), a private eye hired by some of those high end designer labels to protect their trademarks.
KRIS BUCKNER, PRIVATE INVESTIGATOR: No matter how many guys we arrest, when we take out the next guy's popping up because the demand is there.
WYNTER: Buckner also made this surveillance video and worked with police earlier this year on a bust involving pirated DVDs.
The movie titles now available on the streets include some of Hollywood's hottest new releases. Los Angeles Police Sergeant R.J. Acosta says counterfeit merchandise is the number one problem in this precinct.
(on camera): Sixty million dollars seized in illegal goods just within the past few years. To crack down on piracy, Acosta is working with the Motion Pictures Association, which funded some of the hidden cameras monitoring the six square blocks of the fashion distrit.
SGT R.J. ACOSTA, LAPD: We can kind of clean this up and get legitimate business back in here. Every street corner had four or five different vendors selling the counterfeit DVDs. Now you can't even find them on the street corner anymore.
WYNTER (voice-over): But you can still find countless knockoff items. Many vendors are eager to push except when the camera's rolling.
Kareen Wynter, CNN, Los Angeles.
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LIN: Well, coming up it is one of the most secretive nation's on earth but you are going to get a rare glimpse inside North Korea on CNN PRESENTS in just a few minutes.
You might be shocked to see what an undercover cameraman discovered.
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