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Angry Message on New Audio Tape Believed to be Bin Laden; Runoff Election for New Orleans Mayor; Three U.S. Soldiers Killed in Baghdad; Bush Spends Time with Troops in California; Energy-Efficiency Techniques

Aired April 23, 2006 - 16:00   ET

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FREDRICKA WHITFIELD, CNN ANCHOR: Is it the voice of bin Laden? An angry new rant from the terrorist leader surfaces. Also, babies behind bars. One state hopes it will help keep troubled families together. And bringing back the blues in the Big Easy. It's a hometown premiere for a jazz maestro.
Hello and welcome to CNN LIVE SUNDAY. I'm Fredricka Whitfield. All that and more after a check of the headlines.

U.S. intelligence officials are analyzing a newly released audiotape. It could be from fugitive terrorist Osama bin Laden. The tape aired earlier today on Al Jazeera. The latest on the tape and what it says straight ahead. In Baghdad today, three U.S. soldiers were killed when a roadside bomb hit their vehicle. So far this month in Iraq, 60 U.S. troops have been killed.

Boosting morale of those whose loved ones are at war. President Bush is visiting with U.S. military families today in 29 Palms as he wraps up his trip to California. This is new video of the president just in to CNN as he met with soldiers. A live report from our White House crew coming up in a moment.

Still going up. The price of gas continues to climb. The average price at the pump hovers at $2.90 a gallon. It's up nearly two cents since yesterday.

Then there were two. Incumbent New Orleans mayor Ray Nagin and Louisiana lieutenant governor Mitch Landrieu will face each other in a May 20 run-off to see who becomes New Orleans next elected mayor. The two Democrats got the highest vote totals in yesterday's historic municipal election.

And Alaskan police say they may have stopped a planned massacre in the making at this middle school. Six students are in custody charged with first-degree conspiracy to commit murder. Police were tipped off to the plan when a parent called alerting them of the schoolyard rumor.

A new message, it appears from the world's most-wanted fugitive. The White House says it believes the voice on a new audiotape that surfaced in the Middle East today is indeed the voice of Osama bin Laden. CNN's senior international correspondent Nic Robertson reports on the message and its possible implications.

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NIC ROBERTSON, CNN SR. INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): First broadcast on Arabic-language channel Al Jazeera Osama bin Laden's latest audio message ratchets up his anger at Americans. Unlike recent messages, he now says he holds American and Western citizens, not just their governments, responsible for conflict in Iraq and Afghanistan.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE (through translator): Any war is the joint responsibility of the people and the government. While war continues, people renew the allegiance to the rulers and politicians and continue to send their sons to our countries to fight us. They continue their financial and morale support while our countries are burned, our homes are bombed and our people are killed.

ROBERTSON: Just three months ago in his last message, bin Laden directed his comments to the people of America. Offering a truce, if their troops got out of Iraq and Afghanistan.

PETER BERGEN, CNN TERRORISM ANALYST: In the past, bin Laden has sometimes made a distinction between the U.S. people and the U.S. government. In this tape, he's classing them in the same group or category as an enemy, which is a little worrisome because it implies that it gives religious sanction to al Qaeda to go after American civilians again.

ROBERTSON: Bin Laden's latest verbal offensive also attempts to rally Muslim support for al Qaeda's main message, that Muslims are under attack from the West. The al Qaeda leader claims U.S. opposition to the newly-elected Hamas government proves his point.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE (through translator): Their opposition to the Hamas victory proves that this is a crusade against Islam. The sanctions imposed by the West on the Hamas government prove more that there is a Zionist crusader war on Islam.

ROBERTSON: After silence in 2005, the new audiotape is bin Laden's second message this year. Last year he left all the talking to his deputy, Ayman al-Zawahiri. Now he praises al-Zawahiri's analysis.

BERGEN: It seems that bin Laden and Ayman al-Zawahiri are quoting each other, but from the media. So the implication of that is that they may not actually be together, but they are listening to each other through the medium of these audiotapes.

ROBERTSON: Bin Laden also attempts to rally support for al Qaeda in Africa. He warns Muslims to prepare for a long fight in Sudan against what he calls crusaders and plunderers. His aim, he says, not to defend the Sudanese government but Islam.

(on camera): While bin Laden offers no explicit threats in the message, his offer of a truce to the Europeans in April of 2004 was ultimately followed up 15 months later by an attack on the London transit system in July of 2005, killing 52 people. Nic Robertson, CNN, London. (END VIDEOTAPE)

WHITFIELD: A U.S. intelligence official says analysts are reviewing the tape to confirm that the voice is that of Osama bin Laden. Coming up later in the hour, more analysis from Peter Bergen. And you can log on to CNN.com any time for a timeline of al Qaeda attacks, details about the hunt for bin Laden and U.S. homeland security information. Be sure to stay tuned to CNN day and night for the most reliable information on your safety and security.

And now to New Orleans, where unofficial tallies show two well- known politicians finishing first and second in that city's mayoral election. Think it ends there? Not so fast. Let's go live to New Orleans and CNN's Gulf Coast correspondent Susan Roesgen. Susan?

SUSAN ROESGEN, CNN GULF COAST CORRESPONDENT: Well, Fredricka, Yogi Berra said it ain't over until it's over. And it ain't over here yet.

But now New Orleans voters will focus on the two main candidates, Mayor Ray Nagin and Lieutenant Governor Mitch Landrieu. Mayor Nagin had never run for political office until he ran for mayor four years ago. He's the former head of the local cable company and he at that time campaigned on a pledge of business reform for the city of New Orleans.

Then, of course, he faced the greatest disaster perhaps that any mayor could face, even a seasoned politician might have struggled with Hurricane Katrina. And his reelection campaign has struggled greatly.

Mitch Landrieu, on the other hand, is a political insider. He was a state legislator for years before he was named lieutenant governor. He is also the son of former New Orleans Mayor Moon Landrieu, who was mayor in this city in the 1970s. And he's the brother of U.S. Senator Mary Landrieu.

Now, Landrieu says that Nagin has simply failed to help the city get back on its feet after Katrina. But Nagin says he's now in the middle of the recovery and he thinks the city should stick with him.

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MAYOR RAY NAGIN, NEW ORLEANS: Four years ago, we started on a journey to reform New Orleans, to change it for the better. We were making progress and then Katrina happened. We now have a lot of work to do. We have to bring this city together. We have no magic wand to wave.

LT. GOV. MITCH LANDRIEU, NEW ORLEANS MAYORAL CANDIDATE: The one thing that separates me and I think there are other, from Mayor Nagin, is that ability actually to get the job done, to work with other people, to understand how the process works. To take an idea from nothing, to turn it in and actually make it happen, as opposed to just floating it out there hoping somebody picks it up and then blaming people when it doesn't get done. This thing takes work, it takes elbow grease, it takes commitment every day. And that is something that the people of the city of New Orleans are going to get from me.

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ROESGEN: Now that was Mitch Landrieu talking to reporters today. We haven't seen any public appearances by Mayor Nagin but, of course, Fredricka, we'll see lots of both men, plenty of both candidates in the next four weeks.

WHITFIELD: That's right, because Susan, you've got another month or so of campaigning all over again. Are you getting any idea from the Nagin and Landrieu camps at least this week what their plate looks like?

ROESGEN: Full, I would say full. Right now there aren't any scheduled debates. I know that I'm going to participate as a moderator of a debate on May 15 between the two candidates talking about the criminal justice system here in New Orleans. So many of our courts have been knocked out. So many prisoners are languishing in the New Orleans parish jail because they don't have a public defender. So that's something that I'm going to be asking both candidates on May 15th. But they will be out there on talk radio. They'll be all over the place in the next four weeks for sure.

WHITFIELD: All right, Susan Roesgen thanks so much, in New Orleans.

Now, on to Baghdad today, where three U.S. soldiers were killed when a roadside bomb hit their vehicle. And in the city's heavily- fortified Green Zone, police say a rocket landed right at the entrance of Iraq's defense ministry, killing six Iraqi civilians. Two others were wounded.

President Bush is getting some one-on-one time with troops here at home. He's spending the day with Marine and Navy families at a military base at 29 Palms, California. Joining us live now from Palm Springs, CNN White House correspondent Elaine Quijano, part of the best political team on television, Elaine.

ELAINE QUIJANO, CNN WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: Good afternoon to you. Fredricka. Well just a short time ago on another subject, we learned that the intelligence community has in fact informed President Bush that the tape that aired earlier today is authentic. They believe it is the voice of Osama bin Laden.

Now, that said, President Bush meantime is turning his attention to the military troops. As you noted, he is visiting with members of the military in 29 Palms. The president in fact just a few minutes ago spoke to those members of the military, as well as their families, telling them he would not lose his nerve in completing the mission in Iraq.

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QUIJANO (voice-over): On day three of his West Coast swing, President Bush spent time with the troops attending Sunday services at a chapel on a Marine Corps base in 29 Palms, California. With the White House anxious for some good news on Iraq, administration officials welcomed this weekend's political developments there, particularly the Iraqi parliaments nomination of Jawad al-Maliki as prime minister.

ZALMAY KHALILZAD, U.S. AMBASSADOR TO IRAQ: With regard to his competence, he has a reputation for being a strong leader. We will have to wait and see how he does in office. But the indications are positive.

QUIJANO: Yet weekend violence also underscored the immense challenges facing a future unity government, with more U.S. troops killed and more deadly attacks against Iraqi civilians.

Lawmakers say the Bush administration must keep the pressure on the Iraqis to meet their self-imposed political deadlines.

WOLF BLITZER, CNN ANCHOR: If they don't meet those deadlines?

SEN. CARL LEVIN (D), MICHIGAN: Then we have to remove our troops.

SEN. ARLEN SPECTER (R), PENNSYLVANIA: I do not believe that you can put deadlines in concrete because there are factors which arise which make it an impossibility. But I think the pressure to maintain those deadlines is exactly right.

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QUIJANO: And certainly the Bush administration making it known that President Bush understands full well the importance and the urgency for the Iraqis to move ahead and form a unity government.

White House spokesman Scott McClellan telling reporters just a short time ago that in fact President Bush this morning phoned the Iraqi leadership. He urged them to move ahead and appoint cabinet members quickly. Those calls made earlier today. Fredricka?

WHITFIELD: And Elaine, any news or response from the president on the other big news of the day, and that being the purported voice of Osama bin Laden on tape?

QUIJANO: The president himself not making any comments. What we can tell you, though, is that in response to that, the White House is essentially saying that al Qaeda has been weakened, that they are on the run and they think that this tape is evidence of that.

Again, the president learned about this early this morning. In fact it was around dawn local time that he was informed of the tape. And then just a short time ago again we got the confirmation that in fact the intelligence community has told President Bush that they believe this is Osama bin Laden's voice.

But what administration officials are trying to say and something that we have heard repeatedly from them in the past is the al Qaeda leadership has been minimized. They are on the run. And again we've heard over and over from the Bush administration, they say that the larger war on terror is about more than just one person. But certainly this tape and the airing of it today, another reminder that Osama bin Laden is still on the loose. Fredricka?

WHITFIELD: All right, Elaine Quijano, thank you so much.

Well President Bush and California Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger aren't seeing eye-to-eye on the issue of California's fragile levee system. Specifically, how the federal government should help with repairs.

Friday, Schwarzenegger urged Mr. Bush to issue a preemptive federal disaster declaration. Instead, the president issued a rare directive to let the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers help strengthen the system. Schwarzenegger called that unacceptable.

Living green, in celebration of Earth Day Weekend. We'll show you how to live in a cleaner world and save a buck or two.

Also, inside Iran: with nuclear tensions building, only on CNN we hit the streets of Tehran to gauge the attitude of the Iranian people.

Plus this...

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE (voice-over): I was looking for something that I could believe in and a mission that I could believe in where I felt like I would be making a difference.

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WHITFIELD: Making a difference from the shadows. A closer look at the newest agents charged with keeping Americans safe.

REYNOLDS WOLF, CNN METEOROLOGIST: You know, it seems as though everyone loves spring-time. But the one part of spring-time people can do without would be the allergy season. And today's allergy forecast shows that if you happen to be in the Northern Plains, conditions are fine for you. But if you happen to be in the Central Plains, parts of the Southeast and parts of the Southwest, it is a Kleenex type of day for you. All right folks, I'm Reynolds Wolf, and that's a look at your allergy forecast.

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WHITFIELD: OK homeowners, you've heard the Earth Day message. Make your home more energy efficient. Make it green. But heeding the call doesn't mean breaking the bank for home improvement. As CNN Reynolds Wolf will show you, expect to save some green.

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WOLF: I'm here with Chris from Southface. And Chris, you know, everyone want as greener, cleaner, world. And at the same time, people would love to save a dollar or two in their pocketbook. There's a way, of course, you can incorporate both of those ideas in your own home, can't you?

CHRIS THEAL, SOUTHFACE ENERGY INSTITUTE: Absolutely. Saving energy almost always equates to saving money and it's good for the environment. So it's a real good win-win scenario. One way to save energy and money can be as simple as changing a light bulb.

WOLF: Now how is that going to make that much of a difference, using a particular type of light bulb?

THEAL: Well let's talk about the numbers. If you have your regular 50 or 60 watt incandescent light bulbs that people are accustomed to, you can change those out for a much smaller wattage compact fluorescent light bulb. And these operate at different way, but they save a lot of energy to give you the same amount of light output that you're accustomed to, sometimes even brighter.

You can get a six pack like this on sale for about $10 at your Home Depot or Lowe's. And these will last a long, long time. In fact, it says on the package: this package saves you almost $300 in energy costs.

WOLF: All right. Now time for the best room in the house, that of course is the kitchen.

THEAL: Let's go.

WOLF: Oh, yes.

THEAL: What we've got is a great opportunity to save energy, money, and water, particularly in terms of the dishwasher. We've also got a refrigerator which consumes a lot of energy in most homes.

So I recommend an Energy Star appliance, which is always going to be on the top end of the efficiency scale. Sometimes they even don't cost anymore. It's amazing with refrigeration technology, how energy efficient they have become recently.

WOLF: With the kitchen, you've got to have some hot water. And that's where this comes in.

THEAL: Absolutely. We've got a regular 40-gallon electric water heating tank. It could be natural gas. Otherwise it doesn't really matter. But the important thing to do for anyone with a tank water heater, is wrap up those hot and cold water pipes, especially the hot ones close to the water heater, and wrap up the tank with some insulating blankets.

WOLF: And of course that technique would be very helpful for washing those clothes?

THEAL: Absolutely. You need hot water to wash the laundry, as well. The new front loading washing machines use a lot less water, use a lot less energy and are much gentler on your clothing than the tub top loading washing machines. They do cost more, but you generally can get that money back by energy savings. WOLF: From getting cleaned up in the laundry room to getting down and dirty in the basement, there's a lot of stuff you can do down here to save money and help the environment. What would you recommend?

THEAL: With the ductwork that a lot of people have in their houses, you've got a forced heating and air, cooling and heating system. If those ducts have holes or if they're leaky or if the joints are disconnected, you're hemmorhaging energy. You're losing a lot of what you're paying for.

This is an easy homeowner project, if you don't mind getting a little dirty, squeezing into your crawl space in your basement. You can take the mastic and cover up all of the cracks and crevices. Plug those holes in your ductwork so that it's nice and airtight.

WOLF: OK, we just sealed up the ductwork. Now what is the next step for us?

THEAL: The next step is to apply that principle of air tightness to the entire house. So here we've got a duct that's running from the inside of the basement out into a crawl space that's unconditioned, it's unheated space. So we want to make sure that that hole is airtight.

WOLF: OK, from the top down, we've looked at all kinds of great ideas. One we really have to examine now the fan high above.

THEAL: The great old ceiling fan. It works very well with or without your air conditioner going. And the great thing about moving air across the skin is that it helps you feel cooler. Your sweat will evaporate and you don't have to run the air conditioner as much.

Of course, the fan uses much less power than your air conditioner so it can really work hand in hand very well. The last thing I would add is turn it off when you leave the room, because it's really not serving any purpose if you're not there to enjoy the actual breeze.

WOLF: So folks, if you happen to be a big fan of all the ideas we've shared with you today, simply go to southface.org. It gives you all the information you need and more. Reynolds Wolf, CNN, Atlanta.

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WHITFIELD: I'm taking notes. I think I've learned a lot. Stay with CNN SUNDAY, next we'll take you Iran. As nuclear tensions build, CNN gets reaction from the Tehran street. A special report from Aneesh Raman next.

Plus, babies behind bars. Why it may be the only way to keep families together. And later, the Big Easy blues. He says music is the soul of New Orleans and he's using those notes to help get the city back on its feet. My conversation with jazz giant Wynton Marsalis straight ahead.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK) WHITFIELD: Time now to go global with headlines from around the world. In Nepal, the 18th straight day of pro-democracy demonstrations in Kathmandu. Police used tear gas and rubber bullets to keep protesters from the city's center. Moving to Greece for an un-Orthodox celebration of Easter. Two rival churches spent the day firing fireworks at each other. Locals spend months preparing some 2,500 rockets. They admit, it's not the safest way to celebrate.

And Swedish authorities are puzzled by the story of a man found floating on a wooden raft between Denmark and Norway. The man, who calls himself a stateless American, told police he had been thrown off a ship and wanted to get to New York.

In just five days, the clock runs out on a U.N.-imposed deadline for Iran to stop enriching uranium. But Tehran says it has no intention of complying. In a story you'll only see on CNN, our Aneesh Raman gets the view from the Tehran streets.

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ANEESH RAMAN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: A potentially pivotal week ahead in Iran's nuclear standoff with the West. But here in the capital, the northern part of Tehran here at the Tadrish (ph) marketplace, with picturesque mountains looking down, Iranians seem largely unconcerned, waiting for the politics of this all of this to play out.

On Monday, Iran's President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad will hold a press conference for only the second time. Foreign press will be allowed in that setting. The nuclear standoff undoubtedly will come up. A preview perhaps coming on Sunday, when a spokesman for Iraq's foreign ministry said the country will not under any circumstance suspend uranium enrichment.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE (through translator): We are determined to defend our rights. Nuclear research will continue and suspension of nuclear activities is not in our agenda. The issue is irreversible.

RAMAN: No one would speak to us on camera here, but off camera many Iranians voiced support for the president's desire to maintain a civilian nuclear program.

Now the reason isn't as much defiance against the West as it is pure economics. This is a country in desperate need for economic development and many Iranians believe the president when he says that is what will happen with a civilian nuclear program.

All of this as Iran faces a Friday deadline to decide whether or not it will suspend uranium enrichment. No sign it will do so amid rising tensions with the West. Aneesh Raman, CNN, Tehran.

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WHITFIELD: Iran's president is expected to speak to reporters tomorrow and our Aneesh Raman will be there. Watch for Aneesh's reporting from inside Iran, all week only here on CNN. Terror tape, why one expert says Americans should be really troubled by Osama bin Laden's latest message.

Also, bonding with your baby. Can you imagine only getting three days with your little new life? We'll take you behind the bars of one California prison that is trying to keep mothers and their children together.

And next, tech-savvy globetrotters wanted. Does it sound like you? We've got a job for you, if so, stay tuned.

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WHITFIELD: Now in the news a new al Qaeda audiotape. It first aired on Al Jazeera, the Arab language television network said the voice on it belongs to Osama bin Laden. U.S. intelligence experts also believe it's the Al Qaeda leader. In it he blasts the west for cutting off aid to the Hamas-led Palestinian authority. We'll have analysis from CNN terrorism expert Peter Bergen straight ahead.

Three U.S. soldiers died in a roadside bombing in Baghdad today. That brings this month's U.S. military death toll in Iraq to 60 including five troops killed yesterday. The cost of fueling up has some in Congress fed up. With the average price of a gallon of regular unleaded gas closing in on the $3 mark, there were calls today for windfall profits tax on oil companies.

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LEVIN: We need a windfall profit's tax because these profits have been absolutely obscene, they are out of control, I think I hear more about the price of gas back home than just about any subject these days.

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WHITFIELD: Boosting morale of those whose loved ones rather are at war. President Bush is visiting with U.S. military families today in 29 Palms. As he wraps up his trip to California.

And now back to our top story, a new audiotape believed to be the latest message from Osama bin Laden. The Arab language network Al Jazeera aired it today although U.S. analysis is still working to confirm its authenticity the White House says it believes it's the voice of Osama Bin Laden. CNN terrorism analyst Peter Bergen discussed the tape on CNN's "LATE EDITION" with Wolf Blitzer.

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BERGEN: One interesting thing is he's making less of a distinction between the American people and the American government, which could be troubling. He has in the past tried to offer directly speak to the American people and suggest that there was some separation. The fact that he's not making that separation suggests it's OK again to attack American civilians. Might be a signal to Al Qaeda or its affiliates to go after American civilians again. (END VIDEO CLIP)

WHITFIELD: Now a brief look at the Bin Laden file.

Four and a half years after the 9/11 attack the Al Qaeda leader remains at large. He's believed to be hiding in the rugged mountains along the Afghanistan-Pakistani border. Before today his most recent authenticated audiotape surfaced in January. The most recent surfaced in October of 2004 a few days before the U.S. presidential election. The U.S. government has offered up to $25 million for Bin Laden's capture. Remember to stay with CNN day and night for the latest information about Homeland Security and the war on terror.

The CIA is just one of the organizations in the hunt for Osama Bin Laden. But the agency is also looking for a few good men and women. Actually more than just a few. In the year since 9/11. The agency's need for new employees has skyrocketed. CNN national security correspondent David Ensor filed this report for "AMERICAN MORNING" a story you can only see on CNN.

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DAVID ENSOR, CNN NATIONAL SECURITY CORRESPONDENT: It looks like a sedate college campus in springtime. Complete with a commencement speaker and a graduating class but the students are joining not the big world but a shadowy secret one.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Your success is our future. Thank you.

ENSOR: Since that future may include undercover work overseas, this graduate who speaks two other languages did not want to show her face or reveal her name. Do your family all know about your choice to work with the CIA?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I have a pretty large family, so, no, not all of my family knows but my close immediate family does.

ENSOR: Do you tell your friends that you work at the CIA?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I choose who I tell.

ENSOR: With orders from the White House to increase staff by 50 percent, the CIA's director of intelligence whose number two is Carmen Medina is churning out new analysts at a record pace. Job applications to the CIA have more than doubled since 9/11 to over 140,000 a year. And officials say that the college grade point average of those accepted as new analysts last year was 3.7.

CARMEN MEDINA, CIA DEP. DIR. FOR INTELLIGENCE: We are not really looking for know it alls. We are looking for people that understand sort of like soccer tease, that the wisest person is the person who realizes that they don't know everything.

ENSOR: Humility, openness to dissenting views is lesson one now a days at the CIA school for analyst after U.S. intelligence got it so wrong whether Iraq had weapons of mass destruction in the run-up to the Iraq war. Peter is a senior analyst.

PETER, CIA ANALYST: We are not clear about the nature of the evidence, our confidence level in the evidence. That's the part I would like to do it over again. I would do that over again which I think would convey. A certain degree of uncertainty here folks that we just can't give you a definitive absolute answer.

ENSOR: Carmen Medina says the old image of the pipe smoking CIA analyst is out of date. They are tech savvy globetrotters now often working right along side the operations officers, the spies.

MEDINA: Analysts don't work here in headquarters formetically sealed. They sometimes go out into the field and get their boots dirty.

ENSOR: Do you think you might ever go in harm's way to work?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I don't know. I hope not for my mother's sake.

ENSOR: In an office cluttered with toys and souvenirs from visiting foreign officials the CIA number two intelligence analyst works on her blog reaching out to the new young analysts.

Now, this is a classified blog, right?

MEDINA: Yes, this is our agency system.

ENSOR: I can't get into this.

MEDINA: No, you can't.

ENSOR: What brought you to the CIA?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I was looking for something that I could believe in and a mission that I could believe in where I felt like I would be making a difference.

ENSOR: What is the mission?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Keeping America safe.

ENSOR: Hoping to make a difference in the shadows.

David Ensor, CNN, Langley, Virginia.

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WHITFIELD: That story comes to us from "AMERICAN MORNING." Join Soledad and Miles weekday mornings bright and early 6:00 a.m. Eastern.

Babies behind bars. We'll show you how one state is going to extreme measures to keep families together.

Also, sounding a hopeful note or two for New Orleans. My conversation with jazzman Wynton Marsalis coming up. (BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: "Money" Magazine researchers checked out hundreds of jobs. They ranked each career based on categories including earning, flexibility, creativity, stress and ease of entry. This is what they found. Financial advisers scored a B average and ranked number three on "Money's" list of best jobs in America. "Money" Cybele Weisser says it's one of the most popular jobs today.

CYBELE WEISSER, WRITER, "MONEY" MAGAZINE: With the diminishment of pensions and more people are trying to figure out what to do with their 401(k)'s, baby boomers are retiring, there is so much need for financial advice.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Education is often seen as a key to getting a good job and believe it or not the job of college professor ranked number two, mainly because the hours are so flexible.

WEISSER: You can arrange a schedule where you're not in an office 9:00 to 5:00 every day. You might teach two courses a week for example. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And which position topped the list? According to "Money" Magazine if you're a software engineer you have the best job in America.

WEISSER: There's such a huge need for software engineers right now. It's a job that has a lot of flexibility and it's in every location including, of course, working from home. It's not too stressful and it is a job where you can get into it with a bachelor's degree and it also pays very well.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: For a complete list of "Money" Magazine's best jobs in America visit www.Money.com. (END VIDEOTAPE)

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WHITFIELD: Newborn babies behind bars. One California prison warden believes that's where infants belong with their incarcerated mothers instead of being separated at birth. CNN's Kareen Wynter takes us inside a new program some say is the only threat of hope for imprisoned women and their children.

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KAREEN WYNTER, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice over): She's six months pregnant due in July.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We know that the heart is 145.

WYNTER: The California inmate Lucinda Hernadez is counting down another date. When she gets out of prison in August. Until that happens, she won't be seeing much of her new baby.

LUCINDA HERNADEZ, INMATE: Just because we're in here doesn't mean we're bad mothers. WYNTER: Hernadez has been in and out of prison all her life. She is 33, has seven children. The oldest is 18. She is serving an eight- month sentence for theft. Had her youngest child two years ago while facing another prison term. That infant ended up in state custody, because there were no family members available.

HERNADEZ: It was very hard because I -- she was with me the whole time just like this pregnancy. Baby was with me my whole term and to be separated.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: OK. I got two she got two.

WYNTER: Oleta Simmons is another mother who lost custody of her children born while she was behind bars.

OLETA SIMMONS, INMATE: I built resentment, heavy resentment with myself.

DAWN DAVISON, WARDEN: It just broke my heart that when a woman, a pregnant woman went out, went to the hospital, that she had to give her baby up.

WYNTER: That's why Warden Dawn Davison proposed building the region's first newborn unit here at the California Institution for Women. The state's oldest prison for female felons. Inmates will be able to care for the babies instead of being separated from them after just three days like they are now.

DAVISON: They will be able to stay there with their child up to 18 months and have full wrap around services. This is really going to give them an excellent base to be able to have that relationship with their child.

WYNTER: There are two babies born from this prison each week. Not all inmates also qualify for the program, which begins in January. Only those with at least a year left in their sentence so they can complete parenting and drug treatment classes. What kind of hope does it give to other women that are in your position?

HERNADEZ: I think it is good to other women as far as because it's hard to depart from a child so there can be a bond and that they can't just take your child away.

WYNTER: Kareen Wynter, CNN, Corona, California.

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WHITFIELD: The prison partnered with the Center for Children of Incarcerated Parents and Homeland, Inland Empire, a nonprofit organization that builds homeless shelters. Construction on this 20- bed facility begin this is summer.

Still ahead on CNN SUNDAY, bringing the music back to the big easy. My conversation with jazz giant Wynton Marsalis coming up next.

In the next hour of CNN SUNDAY a closer look at what some people are resorting to just to fill up their gas tanks.

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WHITFIELD: We're going out this hour on a high note. A major musical debut planned for New Orleans tonight. Jazzman Wynton Marsalis and the Lincoln Center Jazz Orchestra will perform Congo Square for the first time. Its new music is aimed for the square in the Louis Armstrong Park where the concert is taking place. It's also in tribute to the ongoing effort to help those devastated by Hurricane Katrina. Wynton Marsalis was in Congo Square on Friday. I talked to him about the importance of bringing the music back to New Orleans.

WYNTON MARSALIS, MUSICIAN: For all of us New Orleanians we do what we can in our field to help our city. I will speak for us on behalf of us in this particular tragic time. We love our culture, we love our music. We are going to be what it is about. We're also very grateful to people all over the country for the outpouring of love. Music is our soul and our heart. We produced so many great musicians. We act in that spirit today.

WHITFIELD: You've got your trumpet there. You know you don't go far from the music. You have even written a new song in part or co- written a song that is significant to New Orleans right now called Congo Square. Why?

MARSALIS: Well, Congo Square is a whole piece. It's about two hours long. We came together with a master drummer from Ghana and we put together a type of music that's never existed before that really brings the bowls of the African music together with the bowels of jazz. It is a place where the Africans were able to keep their music. It was also a market place, so we bring this music now to celebrate the feeling of community that we need now and also of integration that we still continue in the world to come together.

WHITFIELD: Can you give us a little sample of what you've got there?

MARSALIS: A lots of dancing and singing. I'm going to play a couple of notes.

Just some blues.

WHITFIELD: That's beautiful. Tell me about how challenging this has been for you given that a good part of your family is still in New Orleans. You mostly living in New York and really around the world bringing music everywhere. How difficult or how much of a challenge has it been for you being worried about the city post Katrina?

MARSALIS: Well, I think for all of us not just for immediate family we are a whole community of people. We're all from the very inception been on the phone for each other. Try to figure out what we can do to help our city. It is a feeling of helplessness we have kind of dealing with bureaucracy in the institutional fumbling that has taken place. The love that people have shown, the people in Ohio, eight, nine, 10-year-old kids sending lawn sales, sending $600, $700 dollars down, people taking in families. Families staying up in people's churches all over the nation.

We take away a feeling that people care about us and that our culture is worth preserving. We have the frustration and the loss but on the other hand we have the feeling that what we have achieved is of importance to the nation. And we know that we're going to come out of it. Just a matter of how long is it going to take?

WHITFIELD: Really are mixing music with politics, aren't you? You talk about Lieutenant Governor Landrieu who is one of the many candidates running for mayor. How do you strike a balance here by being politically involved but at the same time trying to do what is in the best interest of you know those in your community?

MARSALIS: I'm politically involved in I have a voice as a citizen. My voice is one of integrity. I don't work for money. I don't owe anybody anything. When I speak I speak with whatever level of information I have and I speak as honestly I can speak. I'm not an expert. Some times I'm asked things I really don't have any opinions on because I don't know. I mainly like to speak about culture and what people feel. I speak from my experience.

But I work with Lieutenant Governor Landrieu. His father was the mayor and gave my father a proclamation. I work with Mayor Nagin. The three of us sat down before Congress and gave a testimony. Talking about how we were like three boys sitting here, man, we're in front of Congress. I look at it from a very humanistic basis and I don't get involved, I also have no aspiration to make money. I'm a servant of the people and I speak with that type of voice.

WHITFIELD: Well Wynton Marsalis, we know you've got a lot on your plate, as always. We appreciate you taking the time out for us. Of course as we say good-bye we would love to hear a little bit more of what you've got there.

MARSALIS: Yes, ma'am. Thank you very much.

WHITFIELD: Got to get with him on the ma'am thing. Wynton Marsalis and the Lincoln Center Jazz Orchestra playing Congo Square in Congo Square tonight and by the way New Orleans Jazz Fest starts this is Friday. CNN will be there and we'll bring you all sorts of live reports and interviews all weekend long.

In the next hour of CNN SUNDAY, test your gas saving IQ. Take our true-false quiz. AAA's Mantel Williams will have the answers for you.

But first a quick look at our changing earth from CNN eyes Femi Oke.

FEMI OKE, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Whenever a big chunk of ice starts traveling around we would never get to hear the news if fit wasn't for iceberg meteorology. Yes, there are meteorologists who spend their time tracking icebergs. Let me fly you down to Antarctica to get a really good view. The ice sheet that is attached to land is around 600 miles long. Think the size of France and you get the size of it. Currently traveling along the coastline is a monster iceberg known as C-16. The University of Wisconsin is tracking it. And she joins us now on the telephone, Shelly, how did you get pictures of this iceberg C 16 on the move?

SHELLEY: We monitor icebergs by satellite. We can basically keep track of what is going on in Antarctica while we're safely in Wisconsin.

OKE: Made a little movie and it's basically shading of gray. Explain to us what we're trying to see.

SHELLEY: Basically we're watching C-16 as it moves from its original position near Ross Island along the Antarctica Coast, which can be seen, by the whiter areas in the image. Heading up toward the ice time, which is the piece of ice located, near the top of the movie.

OKE: Now you've been down to see 16. You sat on that iceberg. Tell us why it is actually called C-16?

SHELLEY: C-16 is named that way based on where it breaks off along the Antarctic continent. The National Ice Center named the icebergs according to where they break off into different quadrants and then amount that breaks off.

OKE: Now, of course, everybody is asking a chunk that big of ice is moving along Antarctica. Is it anything to do with global warming?

SHELLEY: No, actually these particular icebergs don't deal with global warming. There is just a natural part of the process. These icebergs break off from the Ross ice shells just to maintain the size.

OKE: What difference does it make when you're studying these icebergs or not. What difference does it make to everyday people?

SHELLEY: It is actually pretty interesting in terms of just being able to monitor where they go and what sort of implications they have on the continent. Also important for the United States Antarctic Program and actually ends up costing a lot more money if the ships have to be diverted around the iceberg.

OKE: Thank you for sharing your photographs and keeping us up to date with that massive iceberg otherwise known as C-16.

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