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Interview with Christopher Hill; Google Beefs Up Connection for One-Year Anniversary; Celebrations in Italy for World Cup Victory

Aired July 09, 2006 - 16:29   ET

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FREDRICKA WHITFIELD, CNN ANCHOR: Now in the news, four U.S. soldiers are being charged in the alleged rape and murder of a young Iraqi woman and the murder of three members of her family. A fifth soldier faces a count of dereliction of duty for not reporting the alleged offenses. All five are accused of conspiring with former private first class Steven Green. Green was charged with rape and murder last week in Kentucky.
In Baghdad, a coordinated car bomb attacks kills at least 10 and wounds 25 more. Baghdad police say two bombs went off at the same time at a market in the city's Cartha neighborhood.

U.S. envoy Christopher Hill is in Tokyo, trying to find a diplomatic solution to the North Korean missile crisis. Japan wants international sanctions, but North Korea neighbors China and Russia are resisting. The latest developments straight ahead.

In Russia an investigation continues into last night's deadly plane crash in Siberia. Russian officials say the flight data and voice recorder from the aircraft have been recovered. At least 124 people died when the jetliner skidded off a rain-slicked runway.

And former Enron founder Ken Lay is being remembered today in Aspen, Colorado in the first of two private memorials to be held. Lay died from a massive heart attack while waiting to be sentenced for his fraud convictions relating to Enron's financial collapse.

More now on the rising tensions with North Korea and the very tough job facing U.S. envoy Christopher Hill. Countries like Japan want a strong condemnation from the U.N. Security Council to last week's missile tests. Others, notably China and Russia threaten to block such a resolution. Hill is in Tokyo for further talks before heading to Russia. Earlier CNN Sohn Jie-Ae sat down with him in South Korea for an exclusive one-on-one interview.

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SOHN JIE-AE, CNN CORRESPONDENT: You have met most of the Chinese counter parties and most of the South Korean counterparts. Two countries that seem to have the most leverage with North Korea, have you found they are willing to use that leverage at this point?

CHRISTOPHER HILL, ASST. SECRETARY OF STATE: I think first of all both countries both China and South Korea have been really been outraged by what the North Koreans did. You know in the case of the Chinese, it's particularly difficult. I mean China has been a good friend to the DPRK, they provide them daily amounts of food, and fuel and clothe them in the winter. They have really helped - North Koreans they ask for one thing, the Koreans not to fire this missile. And North Korea went ahead anyway. so I think we are now in a situation where we have to see what are we going to do about this and what kind of leverage is necessary to get the DPRK to stop behaving like this and start behaving like a civilized country.

So I have had some good discussions with them, and we all agreed on the need to be firm and the need to be together and the need to speak with one voice.

JIE-AE: Mr. bush said the U.S. was pursuing diplomatic options, but there were other options. Realistically what options were there?

HILL: I don't think anybody wants to take anything off the table. Of course there are other options. But one issue we have to do is take measures to protect ourselves. We need to find the means to deny North Korea the financial means to buy missile technology or nuclear technology, we want to make sure we are not allowing North Korea to go around and pick up technology, or to trade in these components. They are going to have to understand that if they engage in these kinds of practices, if they have, really, one of the world's worst human rights policies in the world, I mean, if they -- and if they continue to try to develop weapons of mass destruction, we are going to find that a lot of their transactions in the world get looked at very carefully.

JIE-AE: Just to be clear at this point, is Washington not willing to sit down bilateral with North Korea to resolve the situation and are you not willing to accept North Korea's invitation to actually go to North Korea?

HILL: We are committed to finding a diplomatic solution to the six-party process. There's a good reason for this. It's not a bilateral issue. When North Korea fires off scud missiles, that's not a U.S.-North Korea bilateral issue. That's a regional issue that involves all of us.

As a matter of communication, are we able to get to the North Koreans; are we able to have direct talks with them? Of course we are. But we are not ready to put aside the six-party process, or escort these other countries out of the room while we then have bilateral negotiations with the North Koreans.

JIE-AE: Is North Korea getting ready to test another missile?

HILL: What we know is they have pulled these scuds out of storage facilities, and fired them off. It's likely they could pull out additional scuds and fire them off. I am not sure why they would do that, but I am not sure why they did the first time, either. So it's possible but I don't think we have any information on it.

JIE-AE: If they, would that change things?

HILL: I think it would just be further indication that they are simply not listening to anybody. (END VIDEOTAPE)

WHITFIELD: Tonight get a rare look at the brutal world of life in North Korea. Don't miss "CNN PRESENTS: Undercover in the Secret State" tonight at 8:00 p.m. Eastern.

The British appear ready to use the American way of altering people about possible terrorism threats. Last's year's transit bombings in London lead to a parliamentary committee review of the countries terror alert system. British newspapers report the British government will unveil a five-level warning system this week, like the one used in the U.S. but without a color code.

Time now to go global with the headlines, Pope Benedict wrapped up a two-day visit to Spain today with a huge open air mass before hundreds of thousands of people. The Pope defended traditional family values in the last year the Spanish government has legalized gay marriages and fast-tracked divorce.

Mexico's losing presidential candidate says he has proof of election fraud in last Sunday's vote. Madras Madnd Melbourne plans a legal battle to contest the election results. He wants a manual recount of the ballots, claiming computer manipulation by the incumbent party.

Back to Spain, for the third day of the running of the bulls, it was a relatively injury-free run for the hundreds of people who brave, who are brave enough or foolhardy enough to run with the half-ton beasts. Spanish official say one person was gored, three others slightly injured.

And check out this mechanized monster. Belgium is all-abuzz about the Sultan's elephant, which is in town for the weekend. It's a 40- foot tall mechanical Pacaderm that helps tell the tale of a giant girl, a time traveling Sultan and his elephant.

A few minor problems, but no overriding safety concerns for the space shuttle "Discovery." Astronauts spotted some fabric filler sticking out from the "Discovery's" thermal tiles during yesterday's space walk. NASA still has not decided whether to remove the fabric or not. Either way, it's been a great trip for astronaut Michael Fossum.

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MICHAEL FOSSUM, ASTRONAUT: I certainly am pumped up. I commented yesterday it was like a dream, nobody pinches me, and I don't want to wake up.

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WHITFIELD: It's a year old this month, and to mark the anniversary, Google earth is beefing up your connection to the virtual world. In today's technolife report CNN technology correspondent Daniel Sieberg has more.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE) DANIEL SIEBERG, CNN TECHNOLOGY CORRESPONDENT (voice over): It's not like actually standing on the rim of the Grand Canyon but it is just about as close as a virtual tourist can get.

JOHN HANKE, DIRECTOR, GOOGLE EARTH: The goal of Google Earth is to create this realistic, very high performance simulation of the whole world.

SIEBERG: This is the home of Google earth a small quarter of Google's headquarters in Mountain view, California, here a hand full of workers merge satellite and aerial images to make them user friendly. Google Earth was born in July 2005 after Google bought Keyhole the satellite mapping service, you may have seen full disclosure here.

Let's go to the keyhole graphic please. During CNN's coverage of the U.S. invasion of Iraq. Google Earth's director says more than 100,000 people have downloaded and activated the program.

HANKE: We have been surprised at the way people use Google Earth. We initially conceived of it as an application that would be fun and entertaining. But since then we have found that people use it for a lot of serious applications.

SIEBERG: Applications like directing relief workers to hurricane victims in New Orleans and earthquake victims in Pakistan as well as mapping the spread of avian flu. For its first anniversary, Google Earth has announced a new version of the program and a big increase in the number of high-resolution maps. Those sharer images that show details. For instance, the life boats on the Queen Mary, but experts say the real magic for Google Earth and similar offerings will happen when the mapping services are readily available on mobile devices for folks making more than a virtual journey.

Daniel Sieberg, CNN, Mountainview, California.

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WHITFIELD: At four miles long and 186 feet high, the Chesapeake Bay Bridge takes the phrase scary commute to a whole new level for drivers. The bridge phobia up next.

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WHITFIELD: Well, they are celebrating in Italy, because after a very lengthy game today, Italy has just won the World Cup Soccer Tournament in penalty kicks. We have live coverage in both Paris as well as in Rome. We will be joining our correspondents in both those places in a moment. So Italy wins the World Cup.

Captain Jack Sparrow is the new king of the box office. Disney's "Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest" earned more than $132 million in the opening weekend, that exceeds the previous opening record set by "Spiderman" back in 2002.

It may not be the most well known phobia but the fear of crossing bridges is real. Here's CNN's Gary Nurenberg.

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GARY NURENBERG, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice over): Under fire, Jay Fenton was cool and in control.

JAY FENTON, BATTLES PHOBIA: I was flying helicopters in Vietnam when I was 19 years old.

NURENBERG: He wasn't in control over a big bridge at home, avoided them for 30 years.

J. FENTON: I started to feel dizzy. I was feeling my heart pounding rapidly and what I didn't realize was that I was hyperventilating.

NURENBERG: So many people share the fear the Maryland Transportation Authority provides workers to drive over the four-mile long, 186 foot high Chesapeake Bridge but the service couldn't help Jay Fenton.

J. FENTON: They tried but I wanted to get in the trunk. He said he couldn't do that in case there was an accident.

NURENBERG: It is a service that's always been free but now the Maryland Transportation Authority says it is considering charging a fee.

JERILYN ROSS, PSYCHOLOGIST, WWW.ADAA.ORG: By charging a little bit people will feel like they have permission to ask for help.

NURENBERG: The president of the Anxiety Disorders Association of America says the phobia builds on an original panic attack.

ROSS: They associate that place with the panic attack and they think if I go back there, again, it's going to happen. So they avoid that place.

NURENBERG: She counseled Jay.

SUE FENTON, WIFE OF JAY FENTON: I'm going to let you drive.

NURENBERG: That's his wife Sue behind the wheel.

S. FENTON: When I first met Jay he would crawl in the back and sit on the floor, lie on the floor to go over a bridge like this.

NURENBERG: Jay sat in the passenger seat and concentrated.

J. FENTON: Just being careful of my breathing. Trying to not let my mind race.

NURENBERG: But old habits die-hard.

J. FENTON: I think that I've got it totally under control and there's still a bit of anxiety when I go over this bridge. NURENBERG: You made it.

J. FENTON: Yes. It was tough at the beginning but it was great once I got pretty much going in this.

NURENBERG: Buddy, you up for driving back?

J. FENTON: Sure, you up for risking your life.

NURENBERG: How long has it been since you driven?

J. FENTON: Two years.

NURENBERG: A victory.

J. FENTON: The fact that I'm doing this right now is so impressive. You all don't understand.

NURENBERG:: He wants others to know phobias can be cured.

J. FENTON: I feel great, you know, I want to do it again?

NURENBERG: Gary Nurenberg, CNN, on the Chesapeake Bay.

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WHITFIELD: Well, something else that is a laughing matter, it's no typical church service, sharing some laughter with the lord. That story next.

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WHITFIELD: After four weeks plus of kicks and flops the world's biggest sporting events has just come to an end. In the game that just concluded just moments ago Italy defeated France on penalty kicks to win soccer's World Cup. Standing by for us from Rome, Alessio Vinci and in Paris, CNN's Jim Bittermann, let's begin with Alessio where folks are celebrating.

ALESSIO VINCI, CNN CORRESPONDENT: It's history. This country has become the World Cup champion in football, as it's known here. This is what wining a World Cup is all about, it is about celebration, about rapture and a good deal of energy. Scenes like this happening all across the country from the north to the south, millions are now taking the streets to celebrate. After 24 years the World Cup returns to Italy and this country is celebrating perhaps like never before, because this time it's worth everything. Italy has now won the World Cup.

All this, with a sense of national pride, but tonight it is a time to celebrate. Tonight it is the time to celebrate this victory, and this is just the beginning, because as the Italian national team returns to Rome tomorrow night, Monday night, up to a million people are expected to be here.

Alessio Vinci, CNN, reporting live from Rome. WHITFIELD: All right. That is going to be big night for Italy; it's been quite the year for Italy. Most of the Winter Olympic games now, winners of World Cup soccer.

Let's go on to Paris where Jim Bittermann has a lot more subdued background. Jim, sorry for your Parisian friends.

JIM BITTERMANN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well you can see disappointment on some of the fans behind me here Fredricka, they wish they could be doing what fans in Italy are doing this evening. They certainly were hoping that would be the case, but one thing I think a lot of people here would say, they were really happy to get this far. They came into the World Cup and 12-1, their chances of wining the World Cup. So if they came in second place, well that's not so bad. And tomorrow as the team comes know, Jacques Chirac says that no matter what happens at the games today, he will invite them to lunch, so they will be at lunch at the palace and probably have a parade. Even though it was second place, second place wasn't so bad in this World Cup. It was a really exciting championship and I think something a lot of the French will remember for a long time to come.

Fredricka.

WHITFIELD: I have a feeling you are right on that. Thanks so much. Jim Bittermann in Paris.

Take a look at these live pictures coming from New York City, oh, yes, folks here in America had World Cup fever, as well, this time in Soho, standing room at the Estrego where the Italian fans had been watching the game and are now celebrating and just across the street you are seeing the French fans at the Felix.

You can see by the look of the view there, which side is more celebratory right now, after learning Italy winning the World Cup 5-3 over France on penalty kicks.

Snickers, chuckles, fall on the floor belly laughs? All are welcome at this church, CNN's Tom Foreman checked on out what's so funny for "AC 360."

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TOM FOREMAN, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice over): On a warm night in Tampa, young people are out looking for laughs, and hundreds are by passing comedy clubs to get their chuckles at church. And guffaws (ph), roars, screams. All standard fair at the laughing church. Where Dr. Rodney Howard Brown says the Holy Spirit is making folks howl.

DR RODNEY HOWARD BROWN, REVIVAL MINISTRIES: They laugh and they cry, they are shaking and falling out of their seats. I knew it had nothing to do with me. Because you cannot take a crowd and make them do that.

FOREMAN: You are a funny guy.

BROWN: Well, I use a lot of humor. Because I do use humor but that's the way I am.

BROWN: I have news for you, he arose, and he ascended.

FOREMAN: This is worship for Reverend Howard Brown and his followers.

BROWN: He is coming back, king of kings, and lord of lords.

FOREMAN: Unlike other Pentecostal Christians who speak in tongues. These people say the joy of salvation makes them laugh uncontrollably.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I can't explain it.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Flying high.

FOREMAN: What is it?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It's the Holy Spirit.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Look at this. Oh, my.

BROWN: This is my little piece of Africa.

FOREMAN: Howard Brown was once a little known South African preacher and part-time big game hunter, but he and his wife Madonna have fostered a global outreach program based in America and staffed by 70 people all enthrall with holy laughter. The preacher says believers overcome with laughter have been recorded since ancient times, yet it remains controversial almost unknown in other churches.

BROWN: Because religion always wants to beat you down and make you dependent. If I can make you feel guilty then you will come back next week and I will keep you in that place of guilt.

FOREMAN: That's a cynical view.

BROWN: Maybe I have a hard time with religion because I see what it's doing around the world. Religion feels its job is to condemn. Jesus didn't come to condemn.

FOREMAN: Many say they are touched. Some laugh for minutes. Some for hours. Howard Brown blesses them. The saved and the skeptics alike.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I thought god you have to be kidding me if you want me to do this.

BROWN: Church should be the happiest place on the Earth.

FOREMAN: And they certainly seem to be here where Rodney Howard Brown sends the devil on the run and god always gets the last laugh.

Tom Foreman, CNN, Tampa.

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